Updates on Mandalay Bay Massacre – Interview With Maintenance Worker Provides More Confusion…

As best can be determined the current narrative (subject to change) is that a security guard, Jesus “Jose” Campos, was dispatched to the 32nd floor due to an alarm from an emergency stairwell door being opened.  [Jose Campos is currently being guarded by a security firm and not available for media interviews].

Sometime after (or during) Campos assignment to check out the alarm, a maintenance worker named Stephen Schuck was sent to check out a fire exit door that would not open.  Presumably this is the same door Campos was assigned to investigate.

Maintenance worker Schuck could not open the door from the stairwell and needed to go back into another wing to come to the front of the exit door on the 32nd floor.

During this Schuck transit time Campos arrived on the 32nd floor and noted the hotel suite door partially open (didn’t knock) and encountered the shooter, Stephen Paddock, who shot Campos in the leg (upper left thigh) and fired multiple rounds through the door.

Maintenance worker Schuck arrives to find Security Guard Campos hiding in an alcove (“poking his head out”) who immediately warned Schuck to get away and then both come under a hail of gunfire.  See video interview:

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According to the last official press conference this ‘hail of gunfire’ was around 9:59pm.  Approximately six minutes prior to Paddock breaking out the hotel windows and spraying the crowd (10:05pm).   According to released audio, maintenance worker Stephen Shuck used his radio to call the hotel security office, inform them of a gunman on the 32nd floor and request a 9-11 call to police.

That’s where things stand based on the latest media publications of events as described:

LAS VEGAS — A maintenance worker said Wednesday he told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino hotel before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance.

The revised timeline has renewed questions about whether better communication might have allowed police to respond more quickly and take out the gunman before he committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Worker Stephen Schuck says he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and a hotel security guard, who had been shot in the leg, peeked out from an alcove and told him to take cover.

“As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway,” Schuck said. “I could feel them pass right behind my head.

“It was kind of relentless so I called over the radio what was going on,” he said. “As soon as the shooting stopped we made our way down the hallway and took cover again and then the shooting started again.”

Police said Monday they believe gunman Stephen Paddock shot a hotel security guard through the door of his suite six minutes before he unleashed a barrage of bullets into the crowd of concert-goers, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

The injured guard used his radio and possibly a hallway phone to also call hotel dispatchers for help.

That account differs dramatically from the one police gave last week when they said Paddock fired through the door of his room and injured the unarmed guard after shooting into the crowd.

The company that owns Mandalay Bay has questioned the new timeline.

“We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline,” said Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM Resorts International. “We believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate. This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts.”

Las Vegas police did not respond Tuesday night to questions about the hotel’s statement.  (read more)

(Via Chicago Tribune) […] Ten days after the shooting, key details about what unfolded remain a mystery, while officials cannot seem to agree on basic facts about the timeline.

Police in Las Vegas, who had previously said Paddock shot a hotel security guard during the rampage, reversed course Monday and said the guard was actually wounded six minutes before the mass shooting began.

The revelation from Joseph Lombardo, the Las Vegas sheriff, gave way to a new round of questions, including when information about this shooting was relayed to hotel security and when — or if — that detail was then given to the local police. So far, neither the police or the hotel have offered any answers, and both sides have in fact suggested there could be future revisions to the timeline.

“Nobody’s trying to be nefarious, nobody’s trying to hide anything, and what we want to do is draw the most accurate picture we can,” Lombardo said in a television interview Wednesday. “I’m telling you right now, today, that that timeline might change again.”

MGM Resorts, which owns the Mandalay Bay, released a statement Tuesday night casting doubt on the latest timetable Lombardo had announced. In the statement, the company said it “cannot be certain about the most recent timeline” released publicly “and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

MGM did not elaborate on what part of the police timeline was inaccurate and did not respond to questions regarding what it was disputing, what happened inside the hotel and whether hotel security officials are required to immediately call the police upon reports of gunshots. Through a public relations firm, MGM declined to make any employee available for an interview Wednesday, and said in a statement: “Security has been and continues to be a top priority at all of MGM Resorts.”  (read more)

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1,030 Responses to Updates on Mandalay Bay Massacre – Interview With Maintenance Worker Provides More Confusion…

  1. bflyjesusgrl says:

    Just saw promo, Sean Hannity has exclusive interview with Jesus Campos tomorrow night.

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    • 4sure says:

      Is it taped before Campos was put under “house arrest” (security guarding him) or will it be live?

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      • daddio says:

        very strange. Who would want to harm him? Was he a witness to something he was not supposed to see? Has he been threatened? Or is he being kept under wraps so he does not blow the narrative?

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    • sundance says:

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      • MM says:

        Let me guess Mandalay Bay.

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      • ok, we are at BIzzarro stage now.

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        • Jedi9 says:

          I watched this guys analysis, while not very conclusive, but compelling based on what he compares certain things to such as muzzle flash and the use of a suppressor. Just some other possibilities, not saying nor advocating that this is what happened but I am glad there are people out there wanting to get to the truth by spending time on such matters. You decide!

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            He just added another FORENSIC PROOF of the 2nd shooter, and opens up the possibility of a 3rd shooter. Either that man interviewed is a liar and a crisis actor, or there is a second shooter. BRILLIANT!

            Go to 9:40 in the video. Listen until you realize (around 16:00) that the statement of the friend of the victim cannot be true if the Mandalay Bay shooter is the gunman.

            Three shots to center mass of a single person is not possible with bump-fire at the distance from the Mandalay Bay (440 yards). It may not even be possible with a real automatic weapon, even CLOSER than the second shooter revealed in audio during the event (200-250 yards, depending on different calculations). It could even implicate a THIRD SHOOTER, like the one described in the Tropicana.

            No, this whole thing is falling apart. The wounds the man describes are only consistent with REAL automatic gunfire, and more likely what Gio Rios heard inside the Tropicana, or from the casings described outside the Tropicana. At THOSE distances, a three-shot group to the center of mass of one person is possible.

            This thing is busted wide open. People need to be arrested. The FBI is lying to the American people, or the media and the FBI are together lying to the American people.

            Something really weird is going on. These people just keep lying to us, like they think they can get away with it. What the heck is this cr&p?

            I’m really doubting Sandy Hook now – I’m sorry. If they are doing this cr&p under Trump, my G_d – just think what they did under Obama. They either lie to us about real killings, or they lie to us about fake killings. I don’t care which – this has to end.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              OMG. “Climate change.” These people just lie, and lie, and lie.

              You know – after Kennedy died, and they made silver money go away (remember? right after they killed him.), they gave out these handouts at banks that LIED about silver money, saying it would fade away slowly – which was a total lie. And I remember asking my mother, as the silver disappeared quickly – “Why did they lie to us?”

              I know now. THEY are LIARS.

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              • Jedi9 says:

                Are you talking about the “Silver Certificate”? It has always been my belief that Kennedy’s assassination is associated with this particular legislation, to the have the dollar backed by silver something the US had more of than any other country in the world at the time. Had Kennedy’s plan succeeded America would have never been in debt and the currency today would be worth more. That in of itself doesn’t benefit a private institution such as the FED where their fractional lending system has made some powerful wealthy people enjoy making debt slaves of everyone else. That is just my view, take it with a grain of salt, but considering what was at stake at the time and what happened afterward just as you pointed out, it is not entirely something that can be dismissed out right either.

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Lot of interesting stuff happened then. Would not surprise me if some things break open there. I’m not necessarily a believer in MegaAnon, but dang if he hasn’t summed up the reality pretty well. We have rogue agencies. Not many ways out of that.

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              • Tparty says:

                What are the odds that JFK was in the process of recommisioning the silver used in cold war technology?

                http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/135.cfm

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            • Jedi9 says:

              What I find most disturbing about this video, (if at point of discovery such as at the 35:46 mark and specifically at 37:04 where a flash appears is indeed a valid question mark) is the light issue. I can not get over that detail of this entire episode. Just as the video analysis guy points this out this become even more strange to me is that it does indeed conceals the the shooters location from the place he alleges that they are shooting from. (the cup movement is hard to tell, because maybe wind force from the person running by it is not conclusive enough, but nevertheless makes a compelling case to at least consider it) I am not saying that this is what happened or if that is possible due to the camera being used, meaning whether or not it is lens flare, but, it does seem plausible in some respects. The lights remaining on is something I am really bothered by at the present moment, and wonder why no one is questioning that particular detail with a bit more scrutiny.

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              • Jedi9 says:

                Sorry for the stupid grammar mistakes!

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              • wolfmoon1776 says:

                I haven’t even gotten to that part yet! 😀

                Once I realized that they are alleging wounds impossible from Mandalay Bay, the whole scenario has fallen apart. Either they have lying witnesses talking to the media, or they have different killers. Judging from the realities of crowd reactions in the videos relative to real gunfire sounds (esp. the parking lot video), there are real dead people here. And THAT means they are lying about Paddock’s position being the sole killer, and possibly even Paddock being any of the killers.

                This is ugly. It’s mass murder by government.

                I always thought the Ukraine color revolution snipers were on the Soros side. Right? And Lee Stranahan and others have noted that all this stuff is being done by the same people. So that tells me that this is exactly what they are doing. Attempting a Soros color revolution using fakery.

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                • Maquis says:

                  Haven’t seen it.

                  Still freaked out over the prospect of going to the dsrk conspiracy side…

                  Then you go and remind me of Soros and Ukraine.

                  Dang you. 😛

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          • hippielouie says:

            thx

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          • georgiafl says:

            It looks to me like the running girl kicked the cup.

            I don’t see muzzle flashes on the stage or beside the stage.

            Having watched several of these analyses – I believe there may be several shooters at various distances, perhaps one in the construction site towers, and others on rooftops, either the apartments or the convenience store. It is also possible a pre-programmed drone or two could have assisted to accomplish the murder/mayhem.

            One witness said the air was heavy with the smell of gunfire/smoke.

            That means near shooters or guns mounted on drones.

            President Trump said this was evil and a betrayal. I expect he knows more than he’s saying at this point.

            President Trump has two tactics that make me think his father had him mentored by a good old boy from the South.”Sit tight in the boat.” ( be patient, use the right bait/lure, wait for the fish to bite, wait for the right moment to set the hook.)
            “Give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves” (folks who are evil will, given the opportunity, will follow their habits and either entrap or bring themselves down.)

            President Trump will act and decisively when the timing is right.

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            • Jedi9 says:

              “I don’t see muzzle flashes on the stage or beside the stage.”

              You won’t see muzzle flashes unless you standing in front of the weapon being used. That was the video analysis’s point when doing the comparisons of a weapon used with a suppressor and one without and why people didn’t distinguish where the shots were coming from. Also he diagrammed where the subtle flashes were possibly coming from, and the distance which were characteristic of such weapons used. IMO opinion. I don’t think the people (aka second shooter theory) were in the towers, but perhaps in a vehicle that vacated the scene very quickly. Also subsonic bullets and their characteristics is something he was pointing out too. Wolfmoon is right about the cluster of bullets hitting in the victims chest at the 16:00 mark; in that it couldn’t have been accomplished from the 32nd floor. As as the cup, it is possible, but inconclusive to know for sure. Anyway, everything else I agree with you with in terms of how Trump will handle this.

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              • georgiafl says:

                Meant to say – I watched and was not convinced of his theories.

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              • wolfmoon1776 says:

                His demonstrations on muzzle flash are EXCELLENT.

                I suspect that the second shooter (the one they did NOT intend for us to know about) was extremely professional, and used optimal gear for the job. Thus, he was likely using a fully suppressed weapon with REGULAR ammunition for the shots into the crowd, for maximum range with maximum flash-hiding, and then switched to subsonic for under-100-yard shots at the exiting people, and inside the Tropicana, as observed by Gio Rios.

                I am sure that the totality of victim wounds would tell the story of the second and possibly third shooter, if we had an honest FBI. From what I am hearing, they are not even LOOKING at the right things in terms of collecting evidence. This tells me McCabe is completely dirty. He is 100% with the treason, however it is being pulled off. He has pushed down the fake narrative, and will try to make it stick.

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              • Maquis says:

                I would think that the autopsies would be sufficient to establish the angle of the bullet path.

                That would be sufficient, at least in the longer wound channels, to help establish the elevation of the shooter for each GSW.

                The elevation of the shooter would be a combination of angle and distance.

                So one could theorize which possible vantage points offered a height that, at the given distance to that potential sniper nest, would result in a wound channel of that angle.

                That would require a tremendous forensic effort, damn near 9/11 level analysis.

                It would also be prudent, imperative even, to create a 3d timeline, at least capturing multiple static snapshots, of where a given victim, every victim, was standing and facing when the initial shots were fired.

                The scene would be modeled to demonstrate each bullet’s potential originating point.

                Using the calculated angle of the projectile’s path is part of the equation.

                Also critically necessary is the apparent direction of the bullet’s provenance, ie, which direction did it come from? South? SouthWest?

                This can only be determined by correllating forensic evidence with videos, victims’ statements, and witnesses to any shot fatal or no.

                This alone can prove where each shot came from.

                I should hope that EVERY potential vantage point, every spot of potential cover that has a direct line of sight to any of the victims, has been searched for any evidence at all.

                Every openable window. Every rooftop. Every shed and tower and freaking bush needs searched.

                Casings will not be found. If this was done, the additional vantage points would be required to be sterile. Brass can be caught with a deflector mounted bag.

                Gunshot residue, that cannot be eliminated. But it can be dramatically minimized by using very clean gun powders and ensuring no structure or obstacle was forward of the muzzle.

                Essentially, putting the forward end of the gun out through the window, or past the roof’s parapet, rather than just inside said window or wall. This would prevent having powder residues and nano-sized lead and or copper particles driven onto the wall.

                The number and sheer square meters of area to cover is so enormous that it would be impossible to swab the entire area. Sure, obvious possibilities can be forensically examined but it would take a team of dogs to identify any other possibilities within the huge area.

                Given the task, I could create a muzzle mountable device that could virtually eliminate muzzle flash, suppress sound far beyond what practical field-use suppressors can, and, it could absorb a great quantity of particulate matter and the grimy greasy heavy-metal infused residue that so often stains a shooting position.

                That’s kind of a scary thought. I’m usually a few to several years ahead of an idea making its way into the wild, and hope this doesn’t exist yet. But I don’t see why monsters intent on enslaving over 300 Million Americans wouldn’t have recognized the value of such and conceived the “solution” already.

                Perhaps we should recognize this event as “The Final Solution Redux.”

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                • georgiafl says:

                  “I would think that the autopsies would be sufficient to establish the angle of the bullet path.”

                  You would have to know the north/south/east/west and the standing/bending over/lying/crouching orientations of the person when they were shot.

                  Probably not possible with 500+ wounded….or maybe even the dead.

                  I’m very (blankety-blank) angry about this thing.

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                • Maquis says:

                  Georgia in Florida:
                  WordPress denied me a reply icon with your response, do I shall reply here, hoping you see it.

                  Yes. Yes you are correct about having to know victims’ positions and orientations and postures at the moment each individual was struck.
                  Absolutely.

                  It would require forensic level examination of every video and recording and victim/witness testimony.

                  The effort would be tremendously difficult and consume vast resources.

                  Yet, the innocent blood of the dead cry out for justice.

                  The fate of The Exceptional Nation hangs in the balance.

                  It must be done.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              “One witness said the air was heavy with the smell of gunfire/smoke.”

              Depending upon where the witness was, and the exact time, this could be used to confirm the exact location of the 2nd shooter at 200-250 yards. My guess is as follows. The witness ran LEFT toward the back, away from the stage. That is the side that the second shooter seems to have been on. The OPPOSITE exit from the one where most videos of the initial shots were taken from.

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              • georgiafl says:

                One of the video makers said they ‘lit up’ the concert goers with flood lights and hit them in a cross-fire.

                The Kojak looking/acting guy said he believed it came from the roofs of the apartment/convenience store and/or the two towers on the vacant lot/construction site. (Scott Binsack-https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=Y9EsR855LX4) (who has done a 4 hour video on LV Massacre which I haven’t had time to watch)

                I’m toying with a third or fourth source of gunfire – drones. (One of the LEO was seen on video picking up a drone-like object and handing it off to someone to load on a helicopter – I’ve lost the link.)

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  I am limiting the number of shooters to what is known from audio forensics, as far as what I consider “in evidence”. At the moment, that’s TWO shooters. But there could be more. We need more audio analysis.

                  I am not trusting anything from LE. Until we have a real whistleblower or a resignation who spills everything and can be confirmed with non-LE information, we don’t really know what is happening. But I think the Paddock story is falling apart. He’s real, but he’s not the real story. He’s just the blame magnet. I’m starting to accept minor backup theories that he may not have even pulled the trigger. Low probability, but must be kept in the mix. FBI cannot be trusted, so all of their evidence is suspect. They are intentionally not looking at things, and are using media deflections.

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                • georgiafl says:

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                • Maquis says:

                  Dang.

                  Floodlights conveniently snap on to perfect the killing-field?

                  We are in deep doodoo. we need Treepers to review video to ascertain if when where how the lights came on.

                  Then we are left with the most vital question:
                  Who?

                  Who, will answer our Why.

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                • Maquis says:

                  A drone capable of firing the .556 NATO round would require a relatively substantial mass in order to avoid knocking itself out of the air, or into pieces.

                  Therefore it would be sizable and heavy, I’d guess no less than twenty to thirty pounds. That would require quite a number of large propeller blades, which would be spread over a large area.

                  So it would be big and heavy, and the guy moving it would clearly show us those parameters, big and heavy.

                  Would like to see that video myself.

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                • georgiafl says:

                  Video with alleged drone (@1:01) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTf0dczD6jA&has_verified=1

                  Video claims first shots from left of stage behind Jumbotron – (See 23:52 description of military use drones) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ob1VfTaJpA

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                • georgiafl says:

                  According to the second video, they have worked out the weight/size factor and off-set the kick-back.

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              • Maquis says:

                I don’t have a bead, so to speak, on the full compass orientation of the site and the direction of the wind at that point in time, perhaps you can figure that out.

                It stands to reason that gunsmoke from Padf*ck’s position was either able to be blown towards the crowd; or it wasn’t.

                If it wasn’t, taking into account the wind bending effects of Mandalay itself, and using controlled experimentation at the very site when wind conditions are close to the time of the atrocity…

                Again, if it wasn’t possible for Padf*ck’s gunsmoke to drift towards the crowd, and witnesses are sufficient in number and credibility testifying to the presence of smoke, then it might be possible to demonstrate he was not firing alone.

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                • Maquis says:

                  I don’t feel so well right now.

                  My gut is churning.

                  I think I just came down with a case of Grassy Knoll Syndrome.

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Exactly my thinking. And we can even use videos en masse to prove actual prevailing wind conditions. If there is a cross-wind that moves MB^32 smoke away (and the height should, already), then the cross-fire positioning of the shooters will end up being what gives away the second one through smoke, and we have at least one witness who makes that likely.

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                • Maquis says:

                  The most extensive video recreation of mass Chaos, mass Murder, and, possibly, mass Treason, EVER.

                  We are essentially creating a vast VR fascimile of a huge crime with a choose your own adventure perspective for each of 23,000 victims.

                  Someone fire up the 4Chan-Light!

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              • jakeandcrew says:

                The police identified a second shooter at the intersection of Ali Baba Lane and Giles Street. That is located directly across from Gate 5, at the halfway mark of the easternmost side of the grounds, opposite side of Mandalay Bay. Also looks to be in the 200-250 ft range.

                See >47.10

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      • Ziiggii says:

        Everyone points to another entity for information – round and round we go and no one wants to give an answer!

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    • WSB says:

      I have a twitch.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      This is where knowing that Sean Hannity is used by the Bush Crime Family for PR drops (as in “stroke the rubes with our best lies”) is extremely helpful.

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    • chick20112011 says:

      Will this be the REAL Jesus Campos? (if there is one) How much of the official narrative is he being spoon fed before interview?

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  2. MaineCoon says:

    The first lawsuit has been filed by Paige Gasper, CA resident (no city listed) which begs the question why her 3 Pro Hac Vice (pending) attorneys are all from TX.

    I wonder hw many that file suit will trn out to be illegal immigrants?

    I would not be surprised if MGM ends up being underinsured — in spite of how much coverage they would have — 58 deaths plus all injuries plus those just plain traumatized. Potential damages will be massive. Endless lawsuits.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/10/11/paige.gasper.-.complaint.pdf

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Turns out Paige is from Texas and she’s in California for school (university). She’s only 21 so I’m assuming her parents hooked her up, and maybe she’s planning to recuperate at home. She had some pretty serious injuries from a gunshot and she was also trampled by people who were fleeing the scene. What a nightmare for her.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        TY – I miss spoke up thread about where she was from and where she went to school. I had read this earlier and was backwards.

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      • MaineCoon says:

        Thanks for this information. This explains it. Yes after being trampled a Good Samaritan transported her in his truck. I can’t fathom whT these survivors will endure formthe rest of their lives.

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        • backwoodsgirl123 says:

          If they deal with it, they’ll get over it. If not, they’ll let that shooter live in their heads and control them for the rest of their lives!

          And I am speaking from personal experience. But I honestly don’t know how anybody recovers from that without God in their lives. I know I couldn’t.

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    • scott467 says:

      “58 deaths plus all injuries plus those just plain traumatized.”

      _______________

      I think the whole country was traumatized.

      Where do we get paid for that?

      Can a class-action lawsuit have 330,000,000 participants?

      LOL!

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      • MM says:

        we can try
        throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.

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      • Maquis says:

        They can if it was a rogue government agency establishing a pre-condition for a slow-motion coup.

        I believe the Second Ammendment is the proper venue for such…kinetic litigation.

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      • Jedi9 says:

        Further on your point…

        Does anybody here believe that going to large concert venues is safe anymore? Who suffers as a result? The artists, musicians in which touring and giving performances is heavily depended on for gate revenues? Despite the fact that many are going to be coming out saying we should be defiant about relinquishing our way of life in the name of freedoms Americans enjoy, I am afraid that attending such large venues such as concerts and other events is going to change forever, unless of course security is seriously addressed.

        Therein lays the rub of course for many here who have suggested that scanners and detectors is going to be a multi-million dollar industry as a result of this “alleged” false flag. I say “alleged” because while many here do accept this being as such, currently proving it as fact is another matter. I am just trying to follow Sundance’s warning and stick to facts as much as possible, but I am willing to keep an open mind about this, as having suspicions is OK. But more to my point, I really don’t think going to large venues with a lot of people is ever going to be the same. What is next? Sporting events? I would like to think after this horrific event that Americans are smarter than that then to just accept the business as usual and life goes on routine. No, what I expect is that attendance across the board, whether it be sporting events, concerts, or what ever will diminish over time, despite the other stuff going on with sports, attendance is already dropping for such events. There is a cost, and everybody as a result will feel the effect, including the high rollers!

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        • Maquis says:

          I never liked crowds. But if I did, I woulldn’t stop. I’d just up my arsenal and encourage others to do so.

          Speaking of which: Gun Control killed those people in Nevada.

          From Hail Marys with pistols and the rapid emergence of folding rifles joining the suppressive fire, to a Veteran a floor above saying ” F that” to the instruction to hide in his room as he has a weapon and is damn well going to use it, to a supposed security guard arriving before a shot was fired with a weapon rather than a short broomstick.

          Too few guns is deadly.

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  3. Chuck says:

    I’m guessing that every lawyer that gets involved in this will have the left wing agenda solidly in hand. Soros will be involved at some level.

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  4. Martin says:

    Apparently, it’s now being said that Anonymous hacked the LVMPD, and found documents, notes, etc. between them and the Bureau indicating a scheme some here have already suggested.

    Namely, that Paddock was an undercover sting seller a la Fast and Furious, the point of which was to snag ISIS here in N America. They discovered his identity, went to the buy, killed him, carried out the attack, and fled. Just as a sourced report with 48 hours suggested, but was roundly ridiculed, here included.

    The kabuki is a ham-handed attempt to cover up the Bureau’s embarrassment at a clearly illegal op gone horribly wrong. Clearly, if so, the Holder-Lynch-Comey corruption remains, as strong as assumed.

    This leaves problems. What of eyewitness gun activity at other locations, aural evidence of multiple shooters at levels other than the 32nd floor, and the enormous time gap between the end of the attack, and SWAT arrival. Alternatively, it could indicate a larger team, and deeper illegality than just such a failed op. As in, an actual false flag.

    I won’t post the video that contains screenies of the Anonymous post (on 4chan I guess) here, but it’s linked on BeforeItsNews for those who are interested.

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    • ray76 says:

      Why would ISIS bother getting ARs from someone in a Vegas hotel when you can just buy them?

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      • Martin says:

        True, but I don’t think the number and type of weapons in that suite – both rooms of it – have been revealed. The ARs all all we’ve been shown. If even that can be trusted. Or if anything we’ve been told at all can be.

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      • To avoid background checks. There may be illegal automatic firearms involved as well. But even if that is not the case, one can reasonably conclude that ISIS cells wouldn’t mind using legal firearms (esp. AR’s, bump stocks etc.) so that the MSM can claim that “existing regulations don’t go far enough, only outright gun bans and 2nd amendment repeal will work”.

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        • nobaddog says:

          If i were to plan an attack like this i would not want an inaccurate bump stock. Those are for playing around with. Then again this shooter sprayed a crowd of innocent people so he’s got some screws loose. Bringing all those guns was crazy. I hope we find the truth to what happened there.

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          • daddio says:

            as with TWO 800, we will never learn the whole truth…

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            • jakeandcrew says:

              I understand the thinking, but I refuse to accept it. This is not then. This is a new day. Donald J. Trump is president, by the merciful hand of God, and His mercies are new every morning. We do not have to fade away in despair. Pray, not despairing, but with faith! They think they are winning, but greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world. Every day I pray, Father, deliver us from evil! He can, and He will – if we would just ask.

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              • Paco Loco says:

                Never underestimate the evil that is the Deep State and it’s ability to murder innocents and create mayhem.

                Las Vegas is now looking like an event created by the Deep State with false flag connotations and characters created out of a Clancy novel. Where are all of the interviews with people who were wounded, who assisted others that were wounded or dying. It’s a virtual blackout. Where are all the MSM news stories from survivors who witnessed the chaos when the bullets tore into their friends or loved ones? 22,000 people were in the killing grounds and after ten days, we have seen or heard almost nothing from the thousands of survivors.

                As far as Campos and the maintenance man goes, they are clearly looking like pawns in this sick story, created to spin the narrative that Paddock was the gunman and the only individual in the hotel suite. More spin and lies can be expected from LVMPD and the FBI. All of the MGM stock trading just days before the shooting gives added weight to a conspiracy. There are just too many inconsistencies and coincidences starting to pile up for the government to keep the truth about what really happened (or didn’t) from being revealed.

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    • Sam says:

      That sounds very convoluted to me. Unnecessarily so, I might add. The feds do some incredibly stupid things though, e.g. F&F, Benghazi, Ruby Ridge, Pine Ridge, and a number of others all in pursuit of some liberal agenda.

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      • Martin says:

        It is, and leaves still more questions, as I mentioned. I did find it interesting that that angle persists, even though the identical theory appeared quickly, only to be discounted. Perhaps we’ve gotten past the unbelievable. I don’t put anything past the alphabet agencies. Anything.

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    • sundance says:

      Consider me continuing the “roundly ridicule” routine.

      That “hacking claim” is pure nonsense.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        The same disinformation appeared almost word-for-word, immediately AFTER enough pieces were available for the LARP, and LONG BEFORE the Anonymous hacking angle was added. They’re getting cheap by recycling disinformation. And THAT is precisely why the lies are falling apart. They are using flimsy construction on not only the Potemkin sets, but even on the crimes themselves. Desperation.

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      • So is the hacking group, Anonymous……They have yet to get anything right, IMHO…..

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      • Hacking claim is nonsense, but may be intended to “poison pill” the plausible story following the nonsense hacking claim…because its getting too close to the truth.

        With Fast & Furious, Benghazi, and other clustertrucks backgrounding this, you absolutely cannot discount that something similar has happened here.

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    • onegoal123 says:

      why would this be done on the 32nd floor of a hotel with a view of the concert ? the 4th floor would not have worked? they wanted to add an extra layer of risk getting weapons in and then out of the hotel. you may think fbi are incompetent, but that is a stretch. oh and by the way, we need all those Bump Stock’s actually placed on the weapons and all the clips loaded with ammo & not left in the box for the photo opp ? Occam’s Razor applied here in spades…

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    • G. Combs says:

      GEE, And here I thought it would be Julian Assange who would bring the FBI down. Actually ANON may have sent the stuff to Assange and his sleuths are now vetting it to make sure it is real.

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    • Maquis says:

      This looks a lot like the Pizza Pedo credibility destroying distraction created by the real Pedos in DC.

      We can’t afford to swallow all the bait, Hell, all the CHUM, that this apparent operation is throwing into the vast SuperDuperMegaPetaFlops of the emerging Singularity.

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  5. BAMAFan says:

    “Apparently, it’s now being said that Anonymous hacked the LVMPD”
    And you ought to support that claim with a link to something to back up your assertion.

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  6. Howie says:

    Where are the hundreds of wounded? Is death toll still 58? I have not seen any interviews of the people who were there. Strange.

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  7. Rip Tide says:

    Do we know who Jose Campos really is? Maybe he was in on the whole thing? Has anyone looked into his background?

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  8. covfefe999 says:

    I want Hannity to pin down a firm timeline and find out exactly what happened in that hallway. Exactly why was Campos sent there? Which door was he checking? Which door was ajar? How far from Paddock’s room was he? Did he see Paddock?. Did he radio for help after he was shot?
    Did he hear gun fire (not coming down the hallway) from Paddock’s room after he was shot but before Schuck showed up? When did Schuck radio for help? Campos should be able to answer all of these question accurately because he was there. Hannity needs to be prepared and press for accuracy and allow vague or sloppy answers..

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    • MM says:

      Anything coming from Mandalay Bay employees at this point is suspect due to influence of lawyers. He will have a script and will stick to it. Mandalay Bay will protect themselves from lawsuits.

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    • John Good says:

      This is in no way meant to suggest that the professional investigators are not doing their job, but this had to have occurred to someone involved with this investigation.
      What if the real target was not that night’s concertgoers, but something else later that night or another day, or he/they were going to wait until the people were leaving the concert so the targets would be closer?
      What if Paddock was still prepping the site for the actual crime that he & possibly others were planning to commit in the future & Campos interrupted Paddock (because Paddock had f*cked-up & left the door ajar).
      Paddock panics, shoots Campos & shoots at Schuck because his (their) plot has been exposed prematurely.
      And, in a panic (probably caused by some drugs he was taking) decides to spray the concertgoers 3 football fields away, in a last ditch attempt to salvage something! He then commits suicide because he got caught while prepping the site & decided to fire on the concertgoers as an alternative, & didn’t want to face whoever he would have had to answer to after. The note that was left on the nightstand with the calculations of the trajectories, etc., makes me think that Paddock ( & others?) was/were planning something nefarious at the venue later.
      OR, if ISIS can be believed, maybe this was Paddock’s version of a suicide-mission for their cause! After all, there is no-way that he could expect to get away alive after this!
      IMO, the real problem with all these mass-shootings lately is that the people doing this sort of thing, usually have pyschiatric problems of some kind & no place to go for treatment, since the decision to close most Pyschiatric Hospitals due to Political Correctness.
      Liberalism is a mental-disorder!
      Guns don’t kill people… People do.

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    • distracted2 says:

      I’d like the answers to those questions as well.

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    • eagledriver50 says:

      Forget the timeline…Concentrate on the FORENSICS!!! LVPD has not released the tox reports, trauma report or blood reports. Until they produce something everything is in the barrel, swirling…These interviews are nothing more than eye candy. Get to the heart of the matter…Take the entire crime scene apart and do a THOROUGH swabbing for gun residue and match with pictures. Also, check the handgun that Pollock “shot” himself with. Everyone points to the doors…there are NO bullet holes. Where are the bullet holes?

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  9. MVW says:

    Ok, I’ll ask it, what does all the NSA data collection of everything on everybody reveal about this case? Anything? Nothing??

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  10. I’ll use math to make this real simple:

    CAIR-loving MGM + diversity hires = ISIS cell in MGM

    Schuck + Campos = ISIS cell

    Paddock + $5 million “gambling winnings” = FBI gun runner + money launderer

    Marilou = ISIS cut-out

    Paddock + Marilou = deal to sell guns to ISIS cell and other cells. Esp. legal firearms to demonize the 2nd

    FBI > sting operation

    Something goes wrong.

    Black hat Comey faction / Marilou finds out about Paddock FBI connection = warning to ISIS.

    ISIS cell sets up Paddock = dead patsy

    ISIS cell = 2 guys + zillion guns + two broken windows = 59 dead Americans + 500 injured

    MGM + ISIS affiliated hotel workers = scared sh*tless and lying 7 ways to Sunday.

    FBI + dead gun runner patsy = scared sh*tless and lying 7 ways to Sunday.

    MGM + FBI caught with pants down = forced deal with shooters to lie about what happened in return for protection

    FBI + MGM force LVPD to the periphery of the investigation = Lombardo is a sock puppet for the compromised FBI

    Case closed.

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    • JM Covfefe says:

      Since you put it that way,
      I = agree.

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    • distracted2 says:

      I’m not on board with Schuck being radicalized but I can get on board with the rest.

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      • JimmyJack says:

        Me too. So far Schuck seems to be the only one above board. But if the rest holds true maybe he was in on the sale and realized it went bad and called for help?

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    • trialbytruth says:

      either that ..or there is still an investigation going on and they are fishing with lies to try and get responses from big fish. …or it is just fog of war and this will take some time.

      My spidey sense tingles at your anaylisis. I am just not ready to commit. I am still chewing on the proof of life photo of Compos.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      I have my own theory, but I’ll praise yours for raising all the right suspicions. The diversity hires and the diversity hirer are FAR more key than people realize.

      Murren is not “Old Vegas”. He is “New Globalist”. Wynn coming out and saying what he did, shows where the REAL fault lines are.

      Wynn is smart. He realizes that the globalists are willing to destroy anything and everything to stop MAGA. And if they destroy Las Vegas, it is NOTHING to them.

      This is like samurai with honor versus surrender monkeys with nothing but love for money and power. It is very easy to figure out who is who. The Bush and Clinton Crime Families will DESTROY Las Vegas unless Godzilla defends.

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    • G. Combs says:

      I will add +
      TRUMP TWEET
      “It is a “miracle” how fast the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police were able to find the demented shooter and stop him from even more killing!”
      +
      Trump said the shooting attack hurt deeply ‘personally’.
      +
      I saw the word ‘Betrayal’ linked to President Trump but I can’t find it again. (4chan or Reddit?)

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    • covfefe999 says:

      If there’s a conspiracy, in the spirit of keeping it simple (but no stupid attached because we’re all intelligent) I would be willing to theorize that Mandalay Bay or MGM is mucking things up because of the threat of lawsuits, one already filed. IMO they can’t control 100% what people bring into the rooms, where there’s a will there’s a way, but logic and reason doesn’t always drive jury decisions and with so many dead and injured it’s a high emotion case even for those who were not directly affected. Ziiggii was bothered by the relaxed tone of Schuck in his call about the shooter, I have to agree. I wasn’t expecting to hear Schuck scream or cry but dang, he sounds like he called a store to see if they carry a particular brand of socks. It’s like they introduced Schuck after the fact to explain something that Campos did or didn’t do correctly, and in order to introduce him they had to change the timeline and then come up with a recorded radio call (??) of the ultra calm Schuck casually requesting that the hotel call for police. Convenient too that Schuck was not shot. That’s the extent of my conspiracy theorizing. The more conspiracy players you add in the more complex the theory gets … and the less likely it could have been enacted.

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    • Maquis says:

      That could explain the two smashed windows… Either they all wanted to play, or the first window they smashed wasn’t facing the right way… I’m sure we’ll see the crime scene photos real soon so we can observe signs of the presence or absence of gunfire at the far window. Not.

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  11. Lulu says:

    What does Jesus Jose Campos have to say about the incident? He was there before anyone else and can tell what he saw.
    Did President Trump and the First Lady visit Mr. Campos in the hospital?
    DJT could get to the bottom of this situation.
    The FBI has been investigating the “Russian Collusion” for over a year and they have nothing, so I am not surprised that the episode in Las Vegas has yielded nothing but more questions.
    The only thing that we can come away with is the knowledge that it isn’t just the MSM that makes up fake news – thanks LVMPD/FBI !

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  12. Watcher says:

    Was Jose shot or hit by shrapnel?
    The current timeline is consuming real time just the way Vegas wants it.
    A real timeline at the MB would start when paddock checked in. Video, room service, door entry, gambling, automobile movement, maids, I don’t think he just stayed in his room and watched TV.

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  13. maggiemoowho says:

    Somebody called the security command booth outside at the concert, to ask if there was going to be Pyrotechnics at the show. Curious to know if the police found out who this person was. There were other distractions that happened with the outside concert security company . (sorry if already posted, I didn’t see it, but was reading through fast)

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/guards-who-helped-people-escape-vegas-shooting-back-to-work/

    “Supervisor Cheryl Metzler was working Sunday in a command center that resembles a shipping container, watching the concert on seven large surveillance monitors, when someone called to ask if there were supposed to be pyrotechnics at the show.”

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    • maggiemoowho says:

      The article doesn’t say if the caller from hotel security checking to see if the concert was using pryotechnics, or if the call was received earlier, before the shooting.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      After it came to light that Paddock was INTERRUPTED DRILLING right before the shooting (meaning he was committed to move forward), and after knowing that Jason Aldean was very likely the LAST show at the venue for some time (meaning the attack was meant for THAT particular act), I am now SOLIDLY believing that the plan was to begin firing DURING THE FINALE. I believe that the combination of musical crescendo AND pyrotechnics would have allowed the death toll to climb into the hundreds, and possibly go over 1000.

      SO – this phone call is confirmation of that theory. The conspirators were CHECKING to make sure that there would be pyrotechnic cover sound.

      Combine with second gunman evidence – oh, this is getting WAY too big for one guy to pull off. LVPD is so right. Paddock had help. And the Mueller-McCabe FBI knows exactly who it is.

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      • Esperanza says:

        I’m having a hard time believing the faffing around with drills doors and opening fire doors. Really? Surely he know that would bring security down on him? I’ve never been to Vegas and would posit that. Surely the best thing to do would be arrange the inside as quietly as possible and then break windows, start shooting.?

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        • Esperanza says:

          It seems to me the faffing is what got him caught. Had he just got on with it, dropped everything and effected whatever escape plan he had, they would still be looking for him now.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          I think he wanted the doors sealed before breaking the glass. What he was doing makes sense to me, assuming he was wrong about the drilling being discovered. I think his plan was to exit from the OTHER room. The timing is just about right – if the sealing of the doors were not discovered – to target the finale of the Jason Aldean concert.

          The timing makes sense to me – I think he just figured WRONGLY about the alarms. He probably figured 95% chance of drilling without discovery. He had a 5% option prepared, and that is what he got. The probabilities were reversed. He should have known that drilling would not work. Big mistake.

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          • Esperanza says:

            I disagree. Taking a 5 % chance of survival! It’s ridiculous. Divide that by a third at least. The firedoor, the drilling, and someone hearing next door. Why bother? And if that were the case you have to make sure you got the security guard. Also, why use a power tool? Surely if you did it by hand you reduce the odds? It’s not like he didn’t have time. And if you are taking the 5 % odds, why not have a better backup plan?

            I wish someone would set up at mock up and see if the “official” version even works. I’m not convinced it does.

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            • Esperanza says:

              And if his escape plan depended on the firedoor why didn’t he check it out? Open the door, see what happens.

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              • Maquis says:

                Also, a psychopath, preparing to murder hundreds if not thousands of innocents, not only uses a noisy power-tool, but he LEAVES THE FRIKKEN DOOR OPEN??

                Does not compute.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              Personally, I don’t even want to waste time on their misleading “offerings” of photos, security guard statements, and other lies to distract us. I don’t give a damn about anything they give us. All distractions.

              There is now major proof of not only their lies, but of their complicity in mass murder. I would wish for Trump to drop the hammer on them, but frankly I think letting them stew isn’t that bad of a deal. They might try this again, MURDER MORE INNOCENT AMERICANS, and then they will ALL HANG BY NOOSES.

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            • He wasn’t trying to survive a shooting , he was trying to survive a gun buy and sell sting. He wanted to see who was coming .

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              • G. Combs says:

                And if you look at that cart in the hall, it had TWO cameras, one looking down the hall and one LOOKING AT THE STAIRWAY DOOR!

                Second, Why drill in the wall (If he ever actually did)
                Two holes. One to look and the second for a sniper weapon to take out who ever came out of the stairway. Why? BECAUSE THE DOORS DID NOT ALIGN!

                IMHO, The red herring is that blocked stairway door and WHO blocked it and WHEN.

                Without that blocked door, multiple shooters in the suite, dead patsy and escape UP to Saudi Territory comes into play. That door blocks a lot more than a stairway. And who do we have just rolled into play? A ‘Maintenance Worker’ served up by MGM with a different story. HMMmmm

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      • filia.aurea says:

        IMHO Paddock was dead before the shooting even started. The image – if it was actually Paddock, looked to be in early stages of rigor mortis.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          I agree. I think it’s very likely he was scammed. I could do it, so I know it’s possible. I know exactly how I’d scam him into it. “Straw purchase millionaire” scenario.

          “Oh, I’m so rich and have so much money, but I got in a fight with my wife the actress one time, and now I can’t buy guns, but I’ve never gotten a ticket. I’m an old harmless fart. Howard Hughes. You know me. Check me out. You just bring the guns to these venues and I’ll try to be there. Here is some proof money (which Paddock spends the hell out of).”

          Lead him on over a period of years. Get him to buy extra before the election. Maybe a couple of smaller actual purchases. Then finally the big offer comes. See if he completes on one of them, but abort. If he comes through and brings the guns, do big staging on the next one for real.

          Special phone. Oh, it would be like taking candy from a baby. Paddock thought he was smart, but unless you’re paranoid, these people will mess with you big-time.

          We paid good tax money for this kind of stuff! Think about that. Our tax dollars at work.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Wolfmoon. This first person account mentions seeing FIRECRACKERS THROWN in the second paragraph and seeing/hearing several shooters.:
        Here: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1507224133012.png

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          GOOD. Let me explain.

          This is Gio Rios. He did the Facebook video (not sure if earlier or later) describing his experience completely, and says he talked to the FBI. His story is very believable and very intricate.

          SO – now he’s talking in more detail about fireworks. I think he may have mentioned it in the video – saying something “sounded like fireworks too early”. I don’t recall if he said it WAS fireworks or just SOUNDED like it.

          In any case, if there really were fireworks, there should be some capture in video and audio. It would be great to find them, locate them, and use that to confirm his story.

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          • Molly Pitcher says:

            One of the interviews with somebody who mentioned fireworks said they heard what they thought were fireworks and looked up to see if they saw any (guess the sparkles) & didn’t see any. I took that to mean the short pop-pop-pop fireworks not the M80’s that antifa favors
            this is from memory so I don’t have any proof

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              Thanks – that may even be the one I heard.

              If there was a firecracker thrower, as well as the “y’all gonna die” couple, that is two more people who can cry uncle when REAL LE leans on them, while McCabe is behind bars.

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  14. distracted2 says:

    LVMPD, the FBI and MGM are just making it up as they go. They know exactly what happened – and it isn’t acceptable – so they constructed a narrative they thought the public would accept. But they were wrong.

    They didn’t expect to be challenged. The problem with a lie is that you have to tell more lies. And those lies just become more absurd.

    You don’t make this stunning admission if you ever plan to tell the truth:

    “This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts,” MGM Resorts spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in the statement, released late Tuesday. “As evidenced by law enforcement briefings over the past week, many facts are still unverified and continue to change as events are under review. We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publically, (sic) and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/mgm-resorts-disputes-las-vegas-police-timeline-of-mass-shooting/

    I’m afraid we will never know the truth.

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    • distracted2 says:

      Very little happens in this town that isn’t videotaped. The surveillance is state of the art. They know what happened. And they knew within hours.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      Why give up? No – we ARE going to know the truth. And there will be MURDERERS who are going to be dead, suicided, and in jail.

      Never, never, never give up. The people who murdered 5 dozen Americans will

      HANG BY NOOSES.

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      • distracted2 says:

        I’m not giving up. Oh, hell no. But I’m also a realist.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          The thing we learn from Trump is simple.

          CHANGE REALITY.

          Trump changed me. He pulled my pin. And that pin is NOT going back in.

          There are two futures. They hang, or they get on planes or whatever and GTFO.

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          • MM says:

            Just saw a prediction from Bannon Trump only has 30% chance of finishing his term.
            Was on my homepage.

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            • JimmyJack says:

              I need to go read that. I think it was in Zero Hedge. Gannon may be warning Trump about his life being in danger.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              My caution to the globalists. Those 70% futures without President Trump are ones that they will rue. However, they also solve most of what I regard as problems. Especially GLOBALISTS. Plus there is a lot of JUSTICE. Mmmmmm. Make America’s Day!

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              • Esperanza says:

                I don’t believe that. Remember, they make as much money no matter what. It’s about the crumbs we get.

                If they hurt the people’s prez, all bets are off, they’re in revolution territory. And around the world, there are millions off us pissed off. Révolutions rarely end well for élites. We’re at a similar point of “this is not working for us” that the Iron Curtain countries were before the fall. There you either had “let’s evolve in a civilised manner”, or Ceaușescu style.

                Bit by bit they will get the message and one by one get with the programme. Why wouldn’t you? You make just as much money. The third option seems to me to be throwing yourself on the mercy of the Chinese.

                Currently Hollywierd is dependant on the Chinese market. It’s the only place they make money. Which would you rather, cynically, MAGA or be ruled by the ChiComs?

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          • distracted2 says:

            Your patriotism is inspiring, Wolf. Thank you!

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          • JimmyJack says:

            I agree Wolf. I will not give up. I just can’t do it.

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  15. keebler AC ovfefe says:

    This new addition to the story is making Paddock seem he has 10 arms. Not only did Paddock have to contend with the security guard, shooting at him, then breaking two reinforced windows that would have caused a windtunnel in the room, he then shot at the open ground of people, coincidently stopped just in time to hear the guard shout out to his comrade to duck, eliciting another turn and rush with 200 rounds of ammo down the hallway, before bounding back to the window to shoot at the crowd again. There was a 5 sec pause between the rounds shot at the crowd which we are to account for by the maintenance guy’s appearance on the scene?

    The sheriff said there was a likelihood of 2 shooters in the second press conference and I noticed Sundance has a box above Paddock with a question mark. So where was this second person and how did he get away, if it wasn’t Campos? Seems to me Campos was sent upstairs to ask Paddock what the heck was taking so long because the concert’s almost finished! He used the door open ajar as excuse for intruding on Paddock and saying he witnessed Paddock inside (and no one else).

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    • distracted2 says:

      Didn’t Lombardo refer to him as “Superman”? Oh, yeah, but not until he referred to him as a “super hero” and then had to correct himself. It really is absurd.

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      • keebler AC ovfefe says:

        The hero, who wasn’t. Laura Loomer said she can’t find Campos in the hotel’s employee database so either he doesn’t work for MB, is a temp, or was deletely from the database after the shooting. Loomer is the on the ground investigator who discovered Paddock had the room since Sept 25 and the meal receipts showing 2 people. I linked the video interview of her before, it’s long, but I’ll find it again in case anyone wants to listen. Props to her for being on site no matter.

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        • keebler AC ovfefe says:

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            I tipped Laura Loomer to the 2nd shooter forensic video and math suggestions of where to look. But it sounds like she is getting some excellent tips on the second shooter from witnesses, and she is being kept from the location they are giving her.

            Based on this other witness, who saw brass, I’m going to make a new suggestion to honest LE. I believe that it is possible the 2nd shooter REPOSITIONED to the Tropicana parking lot and fired again, leaving the brass seen by the witness, then REPOSITIONED to the inside of the Tropicana and fired again, causing the SUPPRESSED AUTOMATIC FIRE that Gio Rios heard. But there must be another player, too – the OTHER operative that Gio Rios saw. So we don’t really have information on the actual number of players other than Paddock and the 2nd gun in the videos.

            Thus, I think that MORE VIDEOS from fleeing witnesses will provide new distance circles to these repositionings OR additional shooters.

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            • keebler AC ovfefe says:

              I’m apt to agree. Good share on the casings! Funny, I had just started to entertain that there had to or could have been at least a trio of culprits.

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            • filia.aurea says:

              Has anyone considered the helo overhead having a gunner?

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              • wolfmoon1776 says:

                It has been considered, but I think we need wound data to prove it.

                A combination of wound data and videos will RIP THE FAKE NARRATIVE TO SHREDS.

                This is why I encourage all victim families to post all their medical data, as photographs, on as many places on social media and blogs as they can. The authorities are covering up. PUBLISH MEDICAL FACTS so we can destroy the narrative.

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Best part of CROWD FORENSICS is that we don’t have to beg for more LIES from the authorities. Ignore their LIES. The FBI is now a traitor organization. LIES. We don’t even want to hear from them. SHUN THEM. The victims can get help from the CROWD.

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                • filia.aurea says:

                  I’ve watched 3 vids today, 2 show helo overhead, and shots being fired down- idk if they’re real; the third shows a black helo on the ground and a bunch of guys getting out of vans in full tactical gear, and loading things into the helo, rotors were powered up. The Campos man is windy. We HAVE to stop deployment of those Chertoff OSI System scanners – they’re bad news (stock is up 16% since 9/11/17). The Satanic ritual killing, Soros $42M puts, MGM CEO, Chairman, Officers insider trading-MGM Int’l has declined 10+% since 9/11/17; Obamas muslim brotherhood infiltration of all agencies and the military, Murrow-CEO MGM is on DHS Advisory Board, Saudi & UAE sex-trafficking, the CIA drug running & money laundering through the casinos. Adelson, the Zionist bankers and mercenaries, there’s a significant group of criminals that have to be taken out – not forgetting the Chinese and Macau casino deal with Poppy Ho, H.K.. This is 9/11 all over again, tens of millions have already been made, and billions will follow. Lives mean nothing to these people. There’s rumored to be a VIP heavily guarded in the Penthouse floor of the MGM. This has to be the last deep state black op we put up with.

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  Oh – this whole thing is a bag of evil.

                  I have no idea who called the shots, but it is very hard to tell when all the evil people benefit (had it gone right). As it is, I think a lot of nasty people were thwarted here, or WILL BE thwarted because of the partial fail. But I think most will skate unless we figure out who ALL pulled the triggers and sweat them badly.

                  Now that I’m considering the idea of cartels and gangs providing the shooters or some form of support, it makes a LOT of sense that some people are very nervous about this being blamed properly. White guy, gun owner, just makes it simple and less social fallout. But I think it’s a disservice to justice. We need to get to the bottom, not to the “lone gunman with unclear motive”. That is very likely a cop-out here.

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            • Ziiggii says:

              “…”REPOSITIONED to the Tropicana parking lot…”

              hmmm, subject seen going into a camper located in the Motel6 / Tropicana parking lot? That person was detained via police comms chatter…. nothing else has been said about this subject.

              Also, there was a video I posted from a guy that was claiming that there was a shooter at the Tropicana. He points the person out as they we partially seen in one of the windows. That video was removed from YT fairly quickly.

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              • jakeandcrew says:

                Is this the video?

                He sees the person in the window about 1:18.

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                • Ziiggii says:

                  yes that’s the one – it’s been removed multiple times.

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                • Ziiggii says:

                  I’d like to know more about what was going on @2:25? The LEO’s start yelling about something and that’s when those guys (videoing) start to book out of there for cover.

                  It sounded like one of the LEO’s yells “CAR!”… was that where the asian guy got pulled out of his car?

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                • jakeandcrew says:

                  Yeah, I hear “Car!” “Watch it” “This way!” among other things, and lots of commotion. The police scanner has this — >26:30 “about 3 minutes ago a black unknown truck (unidentified) ripped out of the parking lot east of Excalibur heading south to the Delano, it was reported by several people and witnessed by me, keep an eye on it.”

                  The Excalibur is directly across from Tropicana, and the Delano is right next to Mandalay Bay. There was a young man on the rooftop lounge at the Delano that heard gunshots there – at the walkway between Delano and Mandalay.

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              • wolfmoon1776 says:

                There was a LOT of weirdness around the Tropicana. I’m not committing to anything there, except to say that the Gio Rios story is very convincing, as well as the other evacuee who saw shell casings in the parking lot there. Something was going on there. Something that destroys the FBI story.

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        • distracted2 says:

          Lauran Loomer may have forced the issue, resulting in LVMPD correcting the timeline, but she didn’t discover the discrepancy. I read about it early on. He rented a regular room first and then moved into the suite when it became available.

          Now, was the LVMPD being cagey about it? Probably.

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        • emet says:

          All Vegas casino employees have to have an id card issued by Metro. Must provide personal info and get checked for wants/warrants, blackbook listing etc. In Tahoe or Reno its called a Sheriffs card.

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        • JimmyJack says:

          A private security company is the only other explanation for that.

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      • keebler AC ovfefe says:

        Ooo, sorry, you meant Lombardo called Paddock a superman then a superhero – sort of a Freudian slip? Wow. That’s telling!

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        • distracted2 says:

          Yes, he was saying that he would have to be a superhero or Superman to have carried out the massacre alone. But he realized immediately that the word “hero” was inappropriate and changed it to Superman, which wasn’t any better, obviously.

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      A meticulous person about to commit a major historical crime simply would not leave his door ajar nor check that it is closed securely AND LOCKED BEHIND HIM. He locked the fire door. He would lock the front door. Remember he wants to buy as much time as possible.

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    • Also he had to go back and close the door since when LEO arrived they had to use an explosive to breach it.

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      • keebler AC ovfefe says:

        Yes, he had to close and lock it against LE. Shuck said in his interview he had to leave the key to the door with the police though!!! Why need keys if the police already breached it with explosives?

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    • Thecleaner says:

      He had to say the suite doir was open and he went into the room to account for the fact that his hair, prints or other dna may be found in the room…if he said he knocked and got shot through the door and fled, then there would be no physical trace of Campos in that room…I expect they will shortly advise us that the 32nd floor cctv was not working or was sabotaged before Campos arrived…

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      • keebler AC ovfefe says:

        Campos would have to state that he went quite far inside the room. and attest to a struggle for the gun now after quizzically asking him why he’s drilling a hole. Paddock answers it’s for a camera you fool. Take that!

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      You know, the odds are, that since Hillary lost, this very well could have gone down like this….

      Paddock was going about business as usual.

      Two Hillary supporters within one of our government agencies were tasked with finding a patsy and make the “gun issue” go away for good.

      Make sure that the public is terrified of gun rights. Make sure that the message gets out there that if we were gun free, this wouldn’t have happened. Make sure there are a LOT of guns in the room. Make sure most of them are Paddock’s guns. Load his car up with explosives.

      Make Paddock believe they are coming for his guns and then once everything is set up…OFF Paddock. He’s no longer necessary. They carry out the killings and disappear within the crowd of police and 1st Responders.

      Far fetched, perhaps, but nothing worse than what they’ve already come up with.

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  16. Bendix says:

    Did we know the FBI special agent Rouse is Megan Rouse’s husband?
    Megan Rouse, Anthony Podesta’s daughter?

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  17. distracted2 says:

    Woah. I’ll just say I’m not surprised.

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  18. jojo says:

    Did the MGM Board of Directors really sell $200M worth of stock in September? Did Soros place a put on MGM stock going down. Just sayin’

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  19. ray76 says:

    According to a senior FBI official, authorities became suspicions by the extreme amount of gunpowder residue found on Campos’ hands and inconsistencies in his timeline of events. “We believe he killed Paddock, shot holes through the door and his own arm to produce physical evidence for his cover story, then went and lay next to the elevator,” the FBI official told CNN.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      “…his own arm”

      WTF!?!?!?!

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    • jackphatz says:

      “An anonymous source working on the investigation told CNN that authorities are now in possession of security footage showing Campos smuggling the firearms used in the massacre in through a Mandalay Bay loading dock in the days leading up to the event.”

      ****An anonymous source working on the investigation told CNN****

      I call total Bull tickey on CNN, the champion of Bullshiite!

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  20. jackphatz says:

    This is not appearing anywhere, especially on CNN’s site, not on Twitter! What!

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  21. maggiemoowho says:

    Fake news!!!

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  22. ray76 says:

    Domain Name: CNN-INTERNATIONALEDITION.COM
    Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
    Updated Date: 2017-10-10T11:15:25Z
    Creation Date: 2017-10-10T10:59:19Z

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  23. Ziiggii says:

    My head just exploded!🔥

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  24. auntiefran413 says:

    Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing? I certainly don’t!

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  25. filia.aurea says:

    This was a straight up shadow govt. black op, a false flag. These don’t care how many people are killed or injured. DOJ, FBI Las Vegas and Lombardo have had their heads up their backsides terrorizing Cliven Bundy for a long time. And Aaron Rouse was deployed to FBI LV by Comey in September 2016. They’re all a bunch of treasonous liars.

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  26. Uncle Max says:

    Seriously? This is NOT on DM, Drudge, or even CNN’s site! I’m sorry, but ……… no.

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  27. Ziiggii says:

    Man at least let me get a screenshot before you delete it SD!

    I want to research that psyop BS 😡

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  28. Walksbythewater says:

    So there were 3 people involved? If Paddock was already killed by Campos, and Shuck was taking fire, someone else had to be shooting other than now dead Paddock. Or, Shuck was fibbing as well.

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  29. JoD says:

    FBI “Investigations” 101…
    The inevitable conclusion of constantly changing “facts” is confusion.
    The inevitable conclusion of confusion/uncertainty is disinterest.
    By Day 2, with only hours into the “investigation”, Lombardo had already stated that they could not find a motive and “We may never know .”…uncertainty and confusion.
    By Day 5, the murder of 58 Americans and the 429 wounded, was downgraded from the MSM headlines….disinterest.
    Perhaps, if they had been on Flight MH370, CNN would still be talking about them.
    Social media and a precious few talkers are all that is keeping this case from a total fade.
    There is NO doubt, that those still in pursuit of truth, are frustrating the $hit out of the FBI.
    Keep digging!

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    • G. Combs says:

      AND Weinstein was sacrificed as the New Rabbit for the MSM to chase so the Mandalay Bay Massacre was slid off the front page as soon as possible.

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  30. Turtle says:

    I don’t know how to post pics here. But look at the famous pic of the shooter holding the shot glass. Zoom into his girlfriends elbow. Does that look weird to anyone??? Who has a square elbow.

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    • chick20112011 says:

      That woman pictured with him is too young to be Marilou. Marilou doesn’t look young for her age. I wonder who that is with him?

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  31. Thecleaner says:

    Why is the fbi allowing the only 2 apparent witnesses to what happened on the 32nd floor go on media tours instead of just releasing the cctv footage?
    They cant say they are protecting the investigation by holding it back while allowing these 2 to run around and talk to anybody who will listen…my guess is they are floating these guys out with a story and are watching to see the public and internet response before locking down on a final story and editing the cctv video to match the acceptable narrative…if people arent buying it, then we will get the “the cctv was disabled” story.

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  32. The sequence of events after hearing these reports (as I understand them):

    – The security guard (Campos) responds to an “opened door” alarm of the stairwell door on the 32nd floor, sees Paddock’s door ajar and hears drilling.
    – Campos enters hotel room to find Paddock drilling into adjacent room’s door. Campos gets shot and (presumably) runs into the hallway.
    – At roughly the same time the maintenance worker (Shuck) is responding to a call that the stairwell door on the 32nd floor wouldn’t open.
    – Shuck turns down the hallway, walks 1/3 of the way down, sees Campos’ head pop out (he thinks) and hears shots (not in the hallway).
    – Shots stop, Campos pops his head out warning Shuck, and shots resume (this time coming down the hallway).

    Maybe I’m missing something, but a few questions immediately jumped out to me:
    1) If Campos was the one responding to the “opened” door alarm and ventured into Paddock’s room instead, how did Shuck get a call that the stairwell door on the 32nd floor wouldn’t open?
    2) Who could’ve known the door wouldn’t open?
    3) If Campos is in the hallway taking cover when Shuck begins walking down the hallway and he hears shots (not coming down the hallway), where is Paddock shooting?

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    • keeler says:

      There’s a fairly lengthy discussion about this on the first page.

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      • Aha, thanks! I somehow got lost in the sea of comments. Your questions were quite good BTW.

        I am still rather perplexed about how Shuck (or whoever called him) knew the door wouldn’t open when security was dispatched to investigate an “opened door” alarm on the same stairwell? “Won’t open” and “opened door alarm” seem pretty contradictory to occur at the exact same time.

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        • keeler says:

          Thanks, but my money is on sundance being proven right in the end.

          The door alarm was set off when the shooter opened one of the two stairwell doors in order to tamper with one of them.

          The alarm had nothing to do with door being unable to be opened. It was not a “door is still open” alarm and not a “door won’t open” alarm. It was a “someone opened a door” alarm.

          1) Shooter opens the stairwell door, door closes as it is designed to.
          2) Alarm triggers.
          3) Shooter tampers with one of the two doors, preventing it from opening.
          4) Hotel staff (Campos) responds to alarm, encounters shooter.
          5) Someone tells Schuck to respond to “stuck door” on 32nd floor.
          6) Schuck encounters Campos and gunfire in hallway.

          That’s the simplest sequence of events that appear, at this point, to have occurred.

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          • MVW says:

            On the floor plan layout there is only one fire door.

            Campos would be the only one to report a stuck door, only the plate would be obvious from his side, filings from drilling on the floor. Yet there is no report of his call. Call should have been logged.

            Campos entering the room to investigate should have been called in. Once he entered the door would have closed behind him and he is a dead man. Paddock shoots Compos in the leg?? With a drill in his hand? All the guns weren’t a tipoff to Compos?

            It is all garbage.

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            • It was one of those combination drill / gun you can get them in 3/8 / 9mm or 5/8 / 40 caliber. It is for when you do construction in South Side Chicago .

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            • keeler says:

              Two doors”: hallway-door-alcove-door-stairwell.

              Look at the diagrams/floor plans again. One is posted on the first page. I also posted a video of kids running around the stairs. They pass through two doors.

              It’s a fire safety measure to help keep smoke out of the emergency egresses.

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  33. scott467 says:

    [Jose Campos is currently being guarded by a security firm and not available for media interviews].

    ____________

    In other words, he has been taken hostage, lol!

    Start putting his photo on milk cartons, along with Sessions!

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  34. scott467 says:

    “This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts.”

    _______________

    The facts don’t change.

    The parts aren’t moving, just the lying lips.

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  35. scott467 says:

    “Nobody’s trying to be nefarious, nobody’s trying to hide anything, and what we want to do is draw the most accurate picture we can,” Lombardo said in a television interview Wednesday. “I’m telling you right now, today, that that timeline might change again.”

    ______________

    Can you even imagine the fun Saturday Night Live could have with this, back when they had a talented cast?

    This comedy gold.

    I mean, the Sheriff practically quoted Bart Simpson at this point: I didn’t do it, nobody saw me, nobody can prove nuthin’.

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  36. scott467 says:

    “MGM did not elaborate on what part of the police timeline was inaccurate and did not respond to questions regarding what it was disputing, what happened inside the hotel and whether hotel security officials are required to immediately call the police upon reports of gunshots. ”

    _______________

    Just imagine the teams of lawyers pouring over the facts of the case, gaming out the potential liabilities for the casino, and then concocting timelines and press statements that obscure the truth in order to protect the casino from the 700+ lawsuits and the 700 lawyers who will be representing them, lol!

    That’s what this all sounds like. The lawyers are in charge, and the lawyers have no interest in getting to the truth, the lawyers are only interested in doing whatever is necessary to protect their employer(s) and the casino/hotel.

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    • “Through a public relations firm, MGM declined to make any employee available for an interview Wednesday”

      This statement (reported by Chicago Tribune at 6:33pm) is quite interesting considering the interview with the maintenance worker on the Today Show much earlier this morning. That leads me to believe either Shuck was the only person allowed to do an interview, or his interview prompted MGM to hush their employees. Both scenarios elicit some very intriguing questions.

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  37. joeknuckles says:

    Perhaps the revised timeline is to give Campos an alibi. This way, his whereabouts are supposedly accounted for during the shooting (hiding in the doorway/alcove). The old timeline did not account for his whereabouts during the shooting.

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    • MM says:

      At this point I’ll say it again everything has been scripted by Mandalay Bay Lawyers.
      They have had plenty of time to fill in holes from Campos 2 interviews where his story changed!

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        Gonna be honest. Until all the rat-b#stards behind this stuff are in jail, I am NEVER going to Vegas again. EVER. That place is DIRTY in murderous ways.

        The mob didn’t kill innocents. Not like these globalists. These globonazis are COLD mofes. “Yeah, let’s just kill 60 country girls and boys to hurt Trump. But DARN – we wanted HUNDREDS and JUST MISSED, if it weren’t for a screw-up.”

        Evil. There is EVIL in Vegas.

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  38. Cathie says:

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned upthread but look at the photo of the suite’s double entry doors with the crime scene tape. The door on the left is lying on its side behind the door on the right, which is still on its hinges and intact. If the shooter sprayed over 200 bullets through the “door” at the security guard, how come none of those bullets seems to have pierced the door on the right?

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      When people fire a gun through a door in real life, the smart ones just create one point of passage – basically a single hole as a “gun-port”. This gives better accuracy. As each bullet clears the path for the next, accuracy improves. You want your 200 bullets to go through one small hole if possible.

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      • Cathie says:

        That makes sense if the shooter was an experienced sniper but that doesn’t appear to be the case here, especially since those bullets were reported to be fired because the shooter was startled/surprised by Campos.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          First of all, don’t trust the “wild gunman shooting down the hall” story. There is a lot of bad sniff on that. We’ve already been lied to there. Don’t trust it.

          “Bring me the bullets.” While we’re at it, a little bit of “habeus corpus” would help, too.

          Gun-wise, Paddock does not seem inexperienced to me. In fact, he seems to have been (1) a strong self-learner and self-teacher, and (2) to have acquired common gun knowledge from others, possibly by normal civilian range training. He may also have training we don’t know about, if he worked as an operative of some kind.

          Put it this way – I know a lot about guns, but I think Paddock knew a lot more.

          Shooting through doors does not require sniper training – just a little bit of experience or reading. Paddock wasn’t a GREAT sniper, but for a person with no military training that we know of, he was pretty good, based on audio of bullets at the venue. Good enough to drop a bunch of bullets into that crowd and not screw up, using a very shaky form of automatic fire.

          I would love to know where his shots went inside the building. I doubt that the FBI will tell us, because the more they tell us about Paddock or the attack, the more this whole thing looks professional, with Paddock being the LEAST professional participant – the blame magnet.

          They will never get me to accept their lone gunman poppycock now. This is a massive lie. MASSIVE. They had backup on Paddock to make sure they had a politically viable body count, and even then they messed up badly. It’s in the audio. The lone gunman is OVER. They are surely concocting a new story now, with a second gunman. THAT won’t work, either.

          Paul Nehlen has pointed out in a wonderful video that he can actually round off faster WITHOUT a bump stock using just his fingers (very impressive shooting). But this makes a great point – why did Paddock use bump-fire?

          I believe he was asked to use it or manipulated into using it. Unbeknownst to him, this was mainly for political reasons. But the cover reason – logical to him – would be that for extended shooting of hundreds of rounds, his trigger finger might give out and slow down. Bump-fire would keep up the rate, long after his finger tired.

          Paddock was fully aware of what he was doing. But I seriously doubt that he was fully aware of WHY he was doing what he was doing. His view of the plot was NOT the same as those who knew the full scale of the plot. Those people were ready to make sure people died if Paddock messed up. They just needed the Paddock part to complete sufficiently to frame it.

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          • Chuck says:

            Bumpfire was in the room so it could be banned. An attempt will be made to ban every weapon in that room. That is the end game.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              I agree. But it will not happen now. We will not let it. NO WAY.

              What we do now is destroy their credibility enough that honest people in the rogue agencies rebel. THEY should not be tainted by EVIL leadership who would murder innocent Americans.

              Honest FBI need to start blowing the whistles HARD and SOON. Tear these lying SOBs apart.

              You know – the amazing irony is that bump-fire just exacted revenge on the murdering Deep State. It was not accurate enough for the 3-to-center-mass shot on the one guy, and I guarantee there will be dozens of dead and hundreds of wounded that were not shot by bump-fire.

              Bump-fire is gonna bring these murdering b#stards DOWN.

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              • glk26 says:

                did ALL the guns have bump stocks?

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                • wolfmoon1776 says:

                  We only know (assuming we’re not getting total lies from these people) that some of the guns recovered in MB^32 had bump stocks. The thing is, it really doesn’t matter. The wounds on that victim simply don’t make sense at that distance. They may not even make sense from a second shooter with a fully automatic weapon at 200-250 yards. They do make sense for people reporting SEEING additional shooters close-up with automatic weapons as they were fleeing.

                  If they ask us to believe that man’s wounds came from MB^32, they are asking us to believe something far less likely than what witnesses report and gun audio confirms – closer shooters.

                  My guess is that they change the story or discredit the witness. Both are ways to cover up the deceptions which are apparent. Polymorphic disinformation.

                  Note that corrupt LE and the Demmunist psy-op voices online are now pushing ideas like “law enforcement is trying to catch the bad guys by ________ (lying / changing the story / hiding information / etc.)”.

                  NO. THAT is post-Clinton BS. THAT is the kind of thing we heard after Beelzebubba got into the White House. It’s propaganda which has been “gifted” to LE as a fall-back position to deal with questions, now that LEOs are forced from above to engage in un-American behaviors. There was a time when that was never done, because LE valued its own credibility – NON-MARXIST VALUES.

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          • mimi says:

            One would think that at some point this week that reporters would be allowed to see at least the hallway. Not necessarily the room.

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            • wolfmoon1776 says:

              In an honest world, there would be reporters allowed to accompany detectives immediately to the crime scene like there used to be. The fact that reporters have changed from stereotypical annoyances at crime scenes to stereotypical lied-to people at press conferences pretty well tracks the commie take-over.

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          • This is the guy who was shot 2 days after the shooting , 3 times in chest BS

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    • rumpole2 says:

      Now you mention it….
      I can only assume that the door on the right was OPEN… Paddock fired down hall with one door open.

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      • Cathie says:

        You may be on to something there rumpole but Campos said one of the doors was “ajar” and that bullets were then fired at him. Then the maintenance guy arrives and more bullets are fired (at which point the door on the right could have been opened by the shooter–if you believe campos and maintenance guy). But…that leads to more questions because the police reported that after all the shooting was over, they blew open the door to gain entry to the suite, which would explain why the door on the left is laying on its side.

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  39. rumpole2 says:

    Yeah… but one man’s “ajar” might be another man’s half open… and (opening into the room) soon pushed further open to fire through.
    He could have SHUT it again after the firing.. in fact he would be mad to leave an open door at his back as he did the attack.

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  40. rumpole2 says:

    Yeah… but it killed him in the end. 🙂

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  41. Cajun says:

    What are the odds of two hotel workers and paddock, all with independent reasons, converging on the 32nd floor at 10pm? The coincidence is mind boggling.

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  42. andi lee says:

    While at Jose Campos’ home speaking with the private armed security guard, Mike Tokes & Laura Loomer, reveal two note-worthy facts:

    1. the name of the security company; DBA

    2. a shiny red corvette!

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  43. andi lee says:

    Interesting. YouTube denying video upload of live research into the lack of a registered security license for the Campos name.

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  44. andi lee says:

    What’s going on?

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  45. andi lee says:

    Oh noes …

    … Larry Campos? Out of San Bernardino?

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  46. distracted2 says:

    Article reports Campos used his radio to call hotel dispatchers for help.

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  47. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Twitter Treepers – get this spread with the retweets. Time to blast through their distractions to the guard. They are distracting AWAY from epic fails in physical and medical evidence, IMO. This needs to circle back to Vegas LE on Twitter so they can start leaking stuff. We need LEAKS of as much as they can get to us. I suggest anonymous drops to Sundance’s email, posted right on the front page. Anything medical that is inconsistent with long random widely spread shots, and any recordings that show multiple shooters, close shooters, suppressed fire.

    We either have a crisis actor or we have a 2nd/3rd shooter.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Looking forward to watching this video…that is the guy who made the first video analyzing the ‘overlapping bursts’ of shots.
      Which was a really good video.

      There is something in this video here, that keeps sticking in my mind.

      Forward to about 3:40…it’s before Jason Aldean starts playing…and people are starting to turn and walk away quickly, as though ‘on cue’.

      Then as Aldean starts playing, even more of the crowd starts turning and walking briskly or running away.
      You can hear the video maker say “What’s going on?”
      Then…you can hear shots being fired.

      Why did those people start quickly leaving before the shooting started?

      See what you think:

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        I think this proves Paddock actually shot into the crowd to sight in. If those sight-in shots dropped people in the crowd, then the building panic would look exactly like what you see there. Otherwise, I think you’re right – it doesn’t make sense.

        My guess is that he tried to sight in on people toward the back of the venue, so if he was low, he would still hit the crowd, and could see where he created crowd disturbances. Also that way he wouldn’t panic the band – again, to get more casualties. If he got some disturbances near his red dot or crosshairs, go to bump-fire quickly, and just use sighting to get roughly on target with each new magazine or burst.

        Once Paddock went to bump-fire, the 2nd shooter opened up. Second shooter was opposite the exit seen in the video, IMO. Basically on the far side of the venue relative to the camera. 200-250 yards from the stage. That is why Gio Rios sensed trouble to the left when facing the back, etc., etc.

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      • distracted2 says:

        That is bizarre. Do you think they heard a warning shot?

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        • wheatietoo says:

          I dunno, it’s just weird isn’t it.

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          • distracted2 says:

            So I turned the sound off and just watched their actions and they don’t even seem alarmed, yet they move quickly. If I thought I heard gunshots, I think I would run, not walk fast. There’s no screaming or fear on their faces either.

            Things do become alarming quickly but the first dozen or so look like they’re in a hurry to go somewhere else more appealing. So strange.

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            • Esperanza says:

              Jason says to back up a bit please. Maybe there was bunching going on at the front we can’t see, and the moving back coincides. I thought I heard shots, maybe that created a movement that Jason didn’t understand and thought was just normal crowd movement. He also stopped singing last. I get the feeling he was the last to realise what was happening.

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      • jakeandcrew says:

        I think this is the answer —
        https://1src.com/video/t_jh1vHGa1Qfc

        The shooting began before those first two bangs heard on the above video. You can tell by syncing Jason’s song on this compilation with the one above.

        The shooting began in a certain area of the grounds, and it was muffled or suppressed somehow. That’s why people started moving before the loud shots were heard.

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    • Howie says:

      The survivors wounds will tell the tale if allowed to surface. The entry wound location and the position of the victim when hit will show without a doubt the direction the shot came from. If they were in a crossfire the investigators already know. For example if a victim was facing the stage when hit and the wound entry is on his back or left side it indicates more than one attacker. Same if some shots did not hit anyone the will be found in objects they hit and EZ to tell where they came from.

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    • Have you seen the video of the guy with the three chest wounds? Two days later no IV’s no monitors , very good color , a bandage over upper chest BS For that bandage to cover all shots they had to have been grouped under 2 inches or so Again BS

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      • IMHO opinion , it is a false flag gone rogue, they don’t care who they kill and the crises actors fill in the blanks .

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        The best way to destroy the McCabe FBI on this is to accept them at their word, and then ask why. Just ask over and over again, “Are your sure 2+2 = 5 ? Are you SURE?”

        We don’t have to commit on the correction –
        whether it’s 2+3 or =4. THEY have to come up with more fake math. Which we will then call them on.

        Make them stick to their lies until their credibility is gone. The point where the agency can be literally shut down is almost here. Trust me – the moment they ARE shut down, and people are asked to speak up, an AMAZING number of their lies and crimes will surface. I’m sure state and local have enough to send these b#stards to jail for the rest of their lives.

        Goodbye, Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe. Your CRIMES are catching up with you. We don’t have to lift a finger, and we won’t. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s ghost, still teaching peaceful rebellion, will BRING YOU DOWN.

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