September 14th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #238

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2,346 Responses to September 14th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #238

  1. citizen817 says:

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    • Peter says:

      What amazes me about James Woods is he knows exactly how to trigger the snowflakes.

      The comments though against Melania are just plain psychotic. They say liberals have the heart and conservatives have the brains…today’s liberals lack both – they really are borne from the rut of Satan.

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      • Chillin says:

        I have read that James Woods belongs to MENSA. So he is smart enough not to follow the crowd of Hollywood groupthink.
        Such a beautiful dress and First Lady. I feel the critism of her and of President Trump is so warrentless it is funny, and I see around places that it is back firing. People you would never suspect are “woke” enough to even notice it are saying “wait, you are criticizing him for that?” And I think it helped the blinders fall off of people’s eyes when the criticism of our new First Lady began. Very very few ( if any) people thought Michelle Obam was pretty really but they allowed it to be said over and over that she was to avoid the racist charge. Plus most people have been brought up to not criticize a persons looks. So now, when the MSM is trying so hard to reverse everything and criticize everything about our new First Family, people are realizing what’s been being played on them.

        It’s a good example of giving the MSM enough rope to hang themselves ( figuratively)

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        • Dave Radetsky says:

          Chillin – James Woods may belong to MENSA, but that may actually not be in his favor. Very few people with genius level IQ have much common sense. President Trump is a rare exception. The fact is that if you look at the most successful entrepreneurs, most are very smart, but often not genius level IQ. What they have, though, is common sense. And, the fact is that I’d rather have my kids have common sense than genius IQ. It will get them a lot farther. Unfortunately today very few people have common sense. It’s actually become uncommon. Woods may be one of the exceptions of a genius who has it.

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          • ladypenquin says:

            Commonsense and motivation are the two most important factors related to success in life. All the brains in the world aren’t much help if the other doesn’t exist. The media forcing Michelle’s supposed “beauty” down our throats was nauseating. They’re still doing it – constant magazine covers of the former president and his wife – where frankly she looks as bad as ever and more often dresses like she prefers street life. But then I’m of a different era of modesty…

            Our First Lady does have extraordinary beauty, but the best part is the beauty she has shining forth from her heart. That’s what give her the glow of a angel. An angel in the President and their family’s life, and in our lives. The MSM constant efforts to portray her as a nothingburger is an insult to America. Period.

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          • Steele81 says:

            I have often thought that genius levels of giftedness result in a lack somewhere in a person, usually in the area of common sense. DH and I prayed over our super smart children that they would be well rounded in all areas. God answered those long ago prayers with good men who are intelligent, hard working, God loving, family men. I am the most blessed woman in this world.

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            • Bendix says:

              A lot of really high IQ people can still be lacking in the executive function department. Think of the stereotype of the absent-minded professor.
              Bill Clinton had good executive function skills. President Trump has superlative skills in that area, from what I can see.

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          • JMC says:

            Actually, the threshhold for MENSA membership is an IQ of 130. That is not genius, but lower-level brilliant.

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            • Ken Lawson says:

              That’s true. Genius is 140. I was surprised, though, that 130 is considered brilliant. I know a bunch of people with IQs between 130 and 140 and while they are smart, I wouldn’t consider them brilliant.

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          • Bendix says:

            I don’t think you have to be genius level to be in Mensa. Just a certain level higher than the average.
            Not to say James Woods isn’t really smart.

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          • Wiggyky says:

            Common Sense is In spite of, not the Result of, Education.

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          • Kaco says:

            I don’t know about that because my father was a MENSA 99th percentile, and he was a conservative and very common sense. Knew how to do a lot of things and was looked up to for his great sense of humor and easy going humble nature. He was an engineer. It was later in life he decided to take an IQ test.

            Now that he has vascular dementia, that’s another story and he isn’t the same humble man he once was.

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      • Dave Radetsky says:

        Peter – You’re right about the comments and Melania. However, there are many who say that liberals and leftists are not the same. The mistake they make is that they are talking about liberals of generations ago, which were far different than what they are today. It’s like saying a Kennedy Democrat of yesteryear is the same as a Democrat today. They are totally different.

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      • joninmd22 says:

        Just an FYI. I’m stealing Rut of Satan because it’s so perfect. Thanks.

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      • Bendix says:

        I read somewhere (maybe here?) that there are no more bleeding heart liberals.
        Your SJWs are nasty hateful people.

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    • TONYA PARNELL says:

      AMEN

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  3. jupitercomm says:

    The DACA thing earlier the 1st time I’m more than annoyed by the purity tests & freakouts. Bannon understood one thing very well: the voters & base, collectively, need constant reassurance in the form of symbolic gestures that Trump is keeping promises. Trump’s made moves in the past where I couldn’t blame people for feeling caught off guard, but this time’s different. This didn’t come out of nowhere.

    MSM & Dems know DACA has evolved into some sorta purity test so they predictably threw a molotov… Should WH have anticipated they would? Yes. They’ve been caught flat footed in the past. But w/ DACA Trump took a giant step forward as a politician & started practicing the dark arts. Rollout of DACA decision etc was more careful than past decisions, base had enough info this time to be less volatile.

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    • Kaiser Roll says:

      The fallout from the Charlottesville riot let to Bannon and Gorka being knifed.

      This is the result. Jared Kushner (D) is now the de-facto President.

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    • jupitercomm says:

      His allies inside & outside the Admin spent 2 weeks laying out clues as to the general direction things are headed. It was in everyone’s faces “nothing rides on this one deal”. It was the best rollout so far, even more remarkable considering individuals outside the Admin were part of it.

      The Bannon interview wasn’t randomly timed. He blasts GOP leadership days before Trump cuts debt ceiling deal w/ Dems? Breitbart drops dime that Paul Ryan privately trashes the wall, apparently in conversations only high level sources would be privy to, & next morning he promises to fund wall in matter of days?

      Jesus H. Christ can people just pay attention to multiple stories long enough to get some kinda picture or is it all uninflected meaningless fragments of noise to them?

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      • Casey D says:

        Thank you!

        Also,I love reading this board although I only rarely comment, but tonight y’all are letting the trolls wind you up big time.

        When did this ‘deal’ hit PDJT’s desk? Did I miss the signing? Did I miss the Congress debating and voting? This is Schemer and Pelosi stirring up the base, trying anything to get us to cry foul and walk.

        Did any of you read Politico’s article today about our Teflon Don? None of their tricks have worked thus far, sit back and wait for real evidence to roll out instead of listening to the “snek”.

        Love you guys, remember CTR and ShareBlue out in full force tonight.

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      • Peter says:

        Jupiter – it is entertaining to watch the heads explode of the “base”

        Meanwhile – DACA was rescinded.

        Try to keep up people.

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        • DACA wasn’t rescinded. It was slow-walked, it’s still in place, with illegal aliens receiving a 2 year “work” renewal, even though DACA was and is clearly illegal and unconstitutional. If Trump were interested in complying with the Constitution, he would have rescinded it on Day One. He did not. He praised people here illegally. He rightly deferred to Congress, which is attempting to vaporize the concept of “citizenship”. This isn’t about Trump. It’s about Rule of Law to any of us who believed Trump’s empty promises. Sorry you can’t see that.

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          • Jerzy2GA says:

            He could have ended overnight which have a bigger political hit then any praise that would come from the “base”. Instead of making either side happy it he took the only path he could take, which was a middle of the road deal to force congress to do the job they are obligated to do. No matter how slow congress is, they can only fix the issue.

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            • Again, only reinforces the claim that Trump is a man without principles. We’ve already tried this approach…several times…the most well-known being Simpson-Mazzoli of 1986, for which we were promised an end to the invasion, and border enforcement. Here we are…again. Is any native-born American to now rely on “government” to represent us? What is citizenship now, if not a bundle of burdens, chiefly taxation and property burdens? Why should any American citizen obey any laws? Politics is indeed the art of deception.

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          • Bendix says:

            Two years = time for two anchor babies.

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          • TheWanderingStar says:

            DACA is recinded. Deportations begin in 6 months.

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      • TeaforAll says:

        Thank YOU…………………………..

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      • Coldeadhands says:

        Out of respect for believers, here at the Treehouse, we don’t take the Lord’s name in vain.

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      • Oldschool says:

        Can you leave the Lord’s name out of your posts unless it is in praise or prayer? Thank you

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    • doit4atlas says:

      DACA Amnesty before THE WALL = new candidate in 2020! Sundance said the deal would be we give you some sort of DACA amnesty, we get the wall. No wall, DACA disappears. This BETTER be what happens…or I will bail on Trump so fast your head will spin. His upcoming rallies will be EMPTY!

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      • rhcrest says:

        I don’t want to give up anything in exchange for the wall.The left has gotten its way for decades and now for the first time we are actually making some demands and WE should compromise? We have compromised ourselves out of a country. We have all three branches of gov’t and there is no reason for us to be giving up anything in exchange for the wall. It’s what we voted for and part of Trump’s mandate. No compromise. No amnesty. BUILD THE WALL!

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        • Flova says:

          If most of these Dreamers are over 18 for gosh sake deport! Look at whats,happening in College Park. Not to mention if my adult son cannot get benefits like Medicaid food stamps subsidized housing because he works 2 jobs and makes 50 thousand a,year to take care of his,American son why should he pay for illegals to get all if this.

          I wish the Trump administration would start putting real Americans who are fed up into the public arena like he did with victims of illegals.

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        • Victor Laszlo says:

          My thoughts exactly. Thank you! The time for compromise is over.

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      • If Sundance comes back with a full page apologist explanation, we KNOW we are in trouble!

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  4. keebler AC ovfefe says:

    DACA was created by Obama as a temporary placeholder for illegal minors so that Democrats could hold out longer to get the Dream Act passed for 13 million illegals of every age. President Trump, by stopping the DACA program and giving Congress 6 months to get their act together, is a lot less time than Democrats wanted. They were biding their time to get a bigger and better deal. Trump said no. DACA is ending with proper notice for the last of these kids to reach adult age. No child was affected. Get started on immigration reform, whatever you want to call it, and you have only 6 months.

    Representative Steve King of Iowa, one of the fiercest voices in his party against illegal immigration, tweeted that delaying an end to DACA so Republican leadership “can push Amnesty is Republican suicide.”

    Check. DACA ended by Trump.

    Democrats had a hand in the legislation’s historical futility. For years, they used the Dream Act as a bargaining chip to push for broader immigration legislation, hoping a sympathetic group of young immigrants could help win a pathway to citizenship for the far broader pool of 12 million unauthorized immigrants. Now, most Democrats say there is no time for comprehensive immigration changes.

    Trump: You have 6 months, or I decide. Checkmate.

    When Trump tells Pelosi the Wall is not part of the Congress wrangling – he means it is non-negotiable. It gets passed on its own, not contingent on the whim of Democrats trying to torture everyone with their Dream Act.

    Pelosi is a nitwit who only hears what she wants to hear and is a falsetto.

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    • doit4atlas says:

      WALL funding MUST be passed before any DACA deal is signed! And not some pittance of an amount, must be a large % of the funding necessary! We don’t trust congress to fund it in the future.

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      • That is why Pelosi is trying VERY hard to tie them together but the way PDJT set it up…NO WIN FOR THE CONG-CRITTERS…Love it…

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      • rhcrest says:

        I don’t want DACA signed at all. We cannot give these people amnesty. Enough of this lawlessness and being invaded by illegals. It must end and giving amnesty to them will only encourage them. Also, the amnesty would allow chain migration and that means millions more on top of the 800,000 daca people. No way. No how.

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      • Wall funding passed the House a few days ago.

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      • elleb77 says:

        They could pass funding for the wall – every penny of it – and could still NEVER be built. We know how congress works. We’ve seen the amnesty movie before… not a good ending. Wall physically built before dreamers can have a path to citizenship.

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      • Oldschool says:

        We haven’t even seen the plans, let alone funding. Bids were all supposedly to be submitted. Were they? All of them? How many bids were there? What is the cost? Have we accepted any bid? Those are the steps we should have seen. I have seen a photo of one prototype wall panel that you can see through, but not much more information than that. I could be missing something. We are like dogs chasing our tails on healthcare, immigration, justice.

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    • And she is a party in her own mind!!!

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Guess Pelosi doesn’t realize that Trump is 100000 times smarter than her

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  5. Troublemaker10 says:

    White House disputes Schumer, Pelosi’s border wall claim
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/14/white-house-disputes-schumer-pelosis-border-wall-claim.amp.html

    Excerpt:

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement that Trump agreed to protect so-called “Dreamers” and agreed to terms on border security — “excluding the wall.”

    Shortly after their statement, the White House issued one of its own. Trump indeed had a productive meal with the Democrats, but the exclusion of the border wall “was certainly not agreed to.”

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  6. nwtex says:

    Umm I didn’t know there was such a thing. Interesting. I think I will check it out tomorrow as radio broadcasts, as a general rule, have the latitude that isn’t found on tv.

    https://radio.foxnews.com/

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  7. nwtex says:

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    • Kaiser Roll says:

      Ben Shapiro is a worthless neocon that despises Trump. The Berkeley crowd should be cheering him, and traditionalists should be protesting.

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      • joninmd22 says:

        Except Bannon, Coulter, Horowitz and others are also going to Berkeley to fight for free speech. Antifa and the left are virulently antisemitic so Shapiro won’t be welcome.

        Maybe you should go over to StormFront where you’ll be with like minded people

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        • Kaco says:

          Where did you get anti-semitism from his comment? Last night I saw one person saying to people to vote for Hillary then as a retort, now you’re sending people to StormFront.

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  8. keebler AC ovfefe says:

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  9. OnceAbeliever says:

    Trump caves. And nothing from cth. Makes me very sad. Where’s the blow back? Am I missing something?

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  10. keebler AC ovfefe says:

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  11. Kaiser Roll says:

    Should DACA be turned into law, calls for the resurrection of DAPA will begin immediately.

    I would not be surprised to see several Blue States grant some form of voting rights, alongside other “facts on the ground”. Takoma Park, MD is likely to be the start of a trend. Remember, the AP referred to the invasion as “undocumented citizens”. This is what the left actually believes.

    DACA recipients are not children. Every single one is over the age of 18, and can freely return to their country of origin. They are not accorded any civil rights or access to government benefits.

    Reagan’s amnesty lost California.

    George Bush and Barack Obama could not get an amnesty passed.

    If we wanted amnesty we would have voted for Jeb Bush.

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      DACA was not the purpose of the meeting. Tax reform and infrastructure were the main topics.

      Action to Protect Young Immigrants Already Stumbles in Congress

      “…Mr. Coffman did say he is prepared to sign a Democratic petition to force a vote on the Dream Act — a rare overture to the minority party. But with 194 members, Democrats are going to need quite a few Republicans to get the 218 signatures they need, and even Republicans with large Latino populations in their districts are reluctant.

      Representative Jeff Denham, Republican of California, said he does not plan to sign the Dream Act discharge petition.”

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      • Kaiser Roll says:

        I support fanning the flames, whatever headlines emerge today.

        If Trump, Ryan and McConnell feel the heat, we can get a clean RAISE ACT on the floor.

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    • tvollrath66 says:

      Many of them have kids that gets them plenty of benefits.

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  12. nwtex says:

    Why fret or concern oneself with matters that are not in one’s control.

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    • Sylvia Avery says:

      I see you have a new friend! The earlier battles were exhausting and I was on my way out and stopped to check one last thing, and discovered I should have just gone straight to bed. Hang in there!

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      • nwtex says:

        Huh? I have a “….new friend”? I must be missing something. I’m trust you will fill me in another time. Anyway….good night sleep well.

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    • jupitercomm says:

      People need to realize if they don’t command an audience the size of Breitbart or OANN etc raising hell has almost 0 chance influencing any future decisions. Trump will probably see a Drudge headline or hear an hour of Hannity’s radio show. He won’t interrupt his schedule to check every individual twitter feed of supporter w/ an opinion on that particular day

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  13. fedback says:

    Here we go again

    I am still worried about Pence being named as Trump’s running mate. It’s a betrayal, we all wanted Sessions

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  14. Kaiser Roll says:

    A deal for the Democrats:

    You can pass the Dream Act…

    In an Independent California

    If its really about the “kids”, then its worth it right?

    Nothing to do with the desire to turn the US into a permanent one-party rule under your party? Where you can indulge all of your anti-white and anti-Christian policies?

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  15. nwtex says:

    California governor, legislative leaders allocate $30 million for ‘Dreamers’ in wake of DACA decision
    Sept. 12, 2017

    […]

    The funding includes an additional $10 million for young immigrants without legal residency, known as “Dreamers.” Most of that money will go to state community college students, while $3 million has been allocated for loan programs at California State University and the University of California.

    The other $20 million was added Sunday to a pending budget bill. That money that would go to nonprofits that contract with the state to help people apply for or renew their DACA status.

    The efforts are part of a larger push by California state leaders working to counter the Trump administration’s call for expanded immigration enforcement and deportation orders.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-governor-legislative-1505244032-htmlstory.html

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    • Kaiser Roll says:

      Mark Zuckerberg is worth 70+ Billion and counting. CA can pursue all sorts of dumb ideas as long as the capital gains income tax revenue pours in.

      But when the next recession comes, look out. Highway to Hell.

      Thanks Reagan for the amnesty! Thanks Paul Ryan for helping Jack Kemp shiv Prop 187 in the federal courts!

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      What we don’t realize is that states can effect their own Dream Act independent of feds so a proper immigration bill is what Trump is after to curtail runaway policies.

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      • Kaiser Roll says:

        The Constitution reserves elections to the states. California could allow anyone to vote, even tourists. While we think of voting as inextricably linked to citizenship, it’s not. (It was under the Confederate Constitution)

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  16. wheatietoo says:

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      What Happened? LOL

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    • How much cotton have rappers picked?

      How many slaves have you owned?

      yet the fight still goes on, for the crimes of less than 1%, that happened 180 years ago. Insane.

      My ancestors were slaves under Roman rule. They were forced into poor/work houses in the 19th century. They died at an average age of 32 from working in the mines. They were forced to work as children. They only got the vote in 1911, and were forced on pain of death into fighting the enemy right up until 1922.

      Where are my reparations?

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  17. wheatietoo says:

    I guess Brooklyn is getting some of that cultural enrichment that immigrants bring.

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Too close to NY 9/11 of all places!

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      • wyntre says:

        I was watching a series on 911 the other night when I realized I may have either lived in or right next door to the Al Farooq Brooklyn Mosque that the Blind Sheikh, mastermind oif the 1993 WTC bombing, operated from!

        Freaked me the heck out!

        I have to research more but I’m pretty sure my addy was 550 Atlantic Avenue back in the 70’s, before that part of Brooklyn was Islamized.

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      • Bullshill. Too close to 9/11!!!! Sorry to be shill, but that is just nonsense. You’ve got to let the past go. Too close to 9/11!!!!!!!!! How about too close to the USA? Full stop.

        Our constitution does 2 things. It gives us freedom of religion. But it also gives us freedom FROM religion.

        How about we all play christian hymns 5 times a day, loudly, in the street, anywhere we want? It is just ridiculous. That sound of the call to prayer, is the sound of fascism, the sound of you being forced to submit.

        And what about ordinance? You can’t play YOUR music loudly, but they can. Again, B/S. Call to prayer – get an alarm clock like everyone else. Wow, this makes me so mad.

        This has nothing to do with 9/11, but everything to do with fascism. This is forcing people to submit. When it comes to the call to prayer, 911 has NOTHING to do with it.

        How come they get to own the airwaves over the land that others own?

        Thank god I live on a farm. I have a pig barn.

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  18. My good buddy just Texted me, “I find the days when people freak out in unison to be the funniest. I don’t care which side is doing it”

    HA!!! Guess what? I feel the same way.

    Bring on the FREAKING. M O A R

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    • Peter says:

      Isn’t Maryland where Gay Marriage began its ascent? Just saying, became law in like inside of 10 years….

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Probably why border security is the fastest place to start on limiting voter breach.

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      burnett044 – Yes, it is little by little and what most people don’t realize that it’s been going on for 100 years. What the left is doing to overthrow the America our founders created is being done by following a plan they launched a century ago and have gradually been moving it forward very successfully. This is nothing new and nothing we should be surprised at. Anyone who has studied history should see it quite clearly. And because they’ve been so successful at it for so long, it’s even harder to stop now.

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  19. Publius2016 says:

    Oh no! We’re not building the wall! Dem Leaders say “Dreamers” will stay too! It’s very funny how many different ways the Extreme Media will lie about the same things over and over again…it’s simple: 8 pro types have been approved and UNDER CONSTRUCTION! Any gang related or criminal illegal aliens are BEING deported. President Trump has always said they are the priority for deportation.

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  20. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    TreeHouseRon has this thread on lockdown, thankfully. Trump never “lied” about DACA, and the media and NeverTrumpers are deliberately baiting Trump supporters by making them think Trump has changed positions. He never has.

    Just to help clarify, this is an article from Sept 6, 2016. Five days after Trump’s big immigration speech. Trump talks about his immigration plans.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/05/politics/donald-trump-immigration-legal-status/index.html

    “Instead, Trump focused on the need to secure the border and deport undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes in the US and those who have overstayed their visas, and left the door open to reexamining the cases of the remaining millions of undocumented immigrants.”

    “‘Then and only then will we be in a position to consider the appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain,’ Trump said. ‘That discussion can take place only in an atmosphere in which illegal immigration is a memory of the past, no longer with us, allowing us to weigh the different options available based on the new circumstances at the time.'”

    His position shifted throughout the campaign, several times. But there was always wiggle room on the topic of the Dreamers.

    What is the deal that is supposedly being worked on now?

    – End DACA (no more Dreamers moving forward)
    – Secure the border, so no more future Dreamers
    – Let the Dreamers remain

    Nothing about the wall. Nothing about all 11 million illegals deported.

    Trump is trying to do what he said he would. Yes, we need a wall. But right now Trump is trying to make a deal and the Dems won’t do a wall. So do other border security. Even with no wall, illegal immigration is down.

    What some people think Trump said is not necessarily what he said, it just might be what you thought you heard. And there are some things he did say that he may have revised. That’s typical in politics. See, for example, Macullfie saying he wanted to keep Confederate monuments and then switching positions a few days later.

    ‘Amnesty’ does not mean “DACA Amnesty.” It means amnesty for 11 million illegals. That’s how I’ve always seen it. So part of the ‘unmet expectations’ issue here is a confusion on terms, I think.

    If the media and NeverTrumpers were honest, they would be lauding Trump for being bipartisan and being humane towards the Dreamers. But they’re not doing that. Instead, they are playing up false narratives such as “Trump has let down his base?”

    Ask yourself why that is the case. Once you answer that question for yourself, you’ll understand the game going on here.

    Trump is doing phenomenally well right now, despite not having a ton of leverage. He is completely focused and in full deal-making mode. He is looking to get some legislative wins and move forward.

    This is how politics works. You don’t get everything you want. And you have to reboot and reinvent yourself when ‘your side’ abandons you, as the GOP did with Trump.

    I’m very proud of Trump and very optimistic about what is to come.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      Especially with the Hurricanes and the visit to Florida today…it’s time we unite on tax reform and infrastructure…DACA is illegal and Obamacare is death.

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    • Kaco says:

      So PT saying at one of the last rallies, “don’t even worry about it, we will build a wall” isn’t what he meant?? I am confused by your statements. Are you saying it was always a bait and switch on the wall to “border security” and he was never clear on that?

      PT also said “no amnesty” during his campaign. He also expressed a “heart” for DACA and has told them to rest easy. So I am bracing for amnesty for DACA that’s here, regardless of what Pelosi/Schumer say about it based on what he’s said and his recent statements.

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      • MakeAmericaGreat says:

        Yeah, my wording about the wall was a bit imprecise.

        Trump wants the wall, but he’s not fixated on getting the funding for it now. That is, he wants to get DACA over with and he’s not going to let the wall hold up the negotiations. So he will focus on other border security measures, for now, which I would imagine would be things like drones and sensors and so forth.

        What Trump is doing now is making deals he can get done, rather than holding out for deals that may never get done. He tried that on ObamaCare and he got nothing. He’s not willing to wait any longer, and I don’t blame him.

        As I said above, “amnesty” can mean different things to different people. It’s very clear, at least to me, that Trump was pretty much always open to a consideration of allowing at least some illegals (Dreamers) to remain in the country. As cited in the article I excerpted above. To me, amnesty means a blanket situation pertaining to all illegals. Amnesty for 11 million people. Or a path to citizenship for all 11 million people. Something like that. Trump doesn’t want that, I don’t think.

        But that doesn’t mean that he won’t allow the Dreamers to stay. They didn’t come here of their own free will, so they are a different case. But you close the door, also, to future Dreamers.

        I do not think Trump is doing a bait and switch on the wall. But I’m not sure Trump believes he can get a wall deal done now (there are GOP people in Congress who do not want the wall), so he’s not going to spend time on it when he wants DACA finished and he wants tax reform done.

        Get those done, and come back to the wall later. I think that is what Trump is thinking currently.

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        • Kaco says:

          Thanks for getting back. I really don’t think it’s a wise move to grant amnesty to Dreamers before a wall is built, especially since the border is breached every day. However, given his tweets today, I think Congress has more leverage on it. He should demand taxes on remittances to Mexico for border wall funding immediately.

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          • MakeAmericaGreat says:

            You’re welcome. The Dems won’t budge on the wall at the moment, so Trump is just moving forward.

            He wants the wall. He’s just kicking the can on it for now. And that’s ok, they are working on the prototypes right now, I think, and there is also some portion of the wall that needs replacing currently. So work still moves on, we’re just going to have to wait a bit longer to go for funding it.

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  21. fedback says:

    Even Roger Stone said on Infowars that he would much rather fight out the 2018 election talking about economic growth and tax cuts for the middle class, than talking about Daca

    ‘It’s never good in politics to be in a position where you are depicted as being against children’, he said

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      Showing Republicans as against children has been one of the most effective ways the Democrats (both the media and politicians) have consistently won against the Republicans when it comes to legislation. They’ve done it over and over again for decades and the Republicans have failed against them every time.

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  22. getfitnow says:

    FTA – Doesn’t anyone get it? McConnell and Ryan don’t hold the balance of power between the administration and the Democrats, and it isn’t a matter of a durable and late “pivot” by the president. His accusers have fallen on their faces and he is prepared to go easy on the Democrats if they will work with him in policy areas, especially tax reform, which he is bringing on now. He couldn’t have pivoted earlier, when the Democrats thought they could impeach him and were listening to the lunatics in Hollywood and the media. As the mood deescalates and the system finally starts to work, he will hold the balance of power between the congressional parties and factions, and he will use it.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451296/donald-trump-democrats-pivot

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    • MakeAmericaGreat says:

      Fortunately, many of us do “get it.”

      Not only do the Democrats fear they can’t impeach him and their smears aren’t working, but Trump is helping to make impeachment more faint by working with the Democrats. That is part of the strategy.

      As Jesse Waters said on The Five last night:

      “Three weeks ago Trump was Hitler, and now you (Dems) are having dinner with Hitler.”

      This is a great move by Trump. A great move. And it is no less brilliant because he was forced to do it by the bumbling, traitorous GOP who abandoned him.

      The media and the NeverTrumpers are very afraid now, as they should be. And that is why they are sounding the “Trump betrayed his base!” canard.

      The politics here is simple —-> Expand your constituency and get your polls up. Trust your base to stay with you, and work on the people in the center by doing bipartisan deals.

      Also, no matter how much Trump’s base is with him or how much people like him, if he does not get legislation passed he will lose support because he will be seen as ineffectual. He can’t let that happen.

      Hence the shift towards “I’ll make a deal with whomever works with me” mode. The GOP blew it, so now he’s moving on to moderates of both sides.

      Because Trump is likely to start winning Indys/Mods back with his current moves, the media and the NeverTrumpers are trying to take away support from his base.

      It won’t matter, though. As long as Trump stays on his current path and he gets some bills passed, everything is going to start going his way.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        Having dinner and discussing the important policies of our country is essential to MAGA. Do not be surprised when the DMZ is a memory and Kim Jung Un is gambling in Las Vegas and walking down the red carpet in LaLa Land.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        Make, I agree heartily. And Deal Making is what Trump sold us and a good part of why we elected him

        I feel the term ‘abandoned’ is too nice of a description. They have been actively thwarting him in votes, and subversive in scheduling. All those depictions of the GOP with a knife in the back should show Trump with 5 in his back.

        (Speaking of which, for all the NAZI comparisons that the GOP has to fight, isn’t it odd that they go straight to the stabbed in the back analogy when their plans to once again stab Trump in the back are thwarted? {Some General had lied claiming Germany did not lose WW1, but were betrayed. NAZIs propagandized with this but twisted it with their hatred of Jews.} This tactic could end up being a severe strategic liability.)

        There is nothing moderate about Chuckie and Nancie. Hardly any moderates are left in the Democrat Party. The Party even got rid of Lieberman, a true liberal and one time running mate to AL Gore! The two have a firm grip on their Party. No Democrat may vote for anything Trump wants without their approval. So to avoid continued betrayal by GOPe, Trump is dealing with extremist Democrats. But it is a Uniparty that he is fighting, a coin that fights itself to see which side is up. Might as well take advantage of that infighting to get as much of what he wants as possible.

        MAGA

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      • mysticrose80 says:

        “Also, no matter how much Trump’s base is with him or how much people like him, if he does not get legislation passed he will lose support because he will be seen as ineffectual. He can’t let that happen.

        Hence the shift towards “I’ll make a deal with whomever works with me” mode. The GOP blew it, so now he’s moving on to moderates of both sides.”

        This!

        I’m noticing that some people are getting bent out of shape about POTUS meeting with Schumer and Pelosi. Have they forgotten how POTUS has tried to work with his own party first, only for said party to repeatedly stab him in the back? MAGA isn’t going to happen w/o concrete action. If reaching out to moderates will, at least, get us out of this stalemate, then so be it.

        I don’t buy, for one second, that POTUS’ goals have changed. I do, however, understand that he is fighting one hell of a battle with the Swamp (and this is not an exaggeration). I may not agree with every decision POTUS makes now (and in the future), but I fully support his efforts to steer us in the right direction. Along the way, there will be good deals and no-so-good deals. However, lack of progress (perceived or real) on POTUS’ part WILL result in his being a one-term president. I’m not willing to make that sacrifice in the name of ideology.

        That being said, Pelosi and Schumer can keep dreaming.

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        • mysticrose80 says:

          (P.S. Probably should have said “moderates and others”, as Pelosi and Schumer are a far cry from moderates…though they can be opportunists)

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        • MakeAmericaGreat says:

          You got it!

          Goals have not changed a it. Only the method has. As you said, progress must be made or Trump loses power, and then we end up with someone like Kamala Harris.

          Can’t have that happen, even if it means we have to do deals with Dems.

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          • mysticrose80 says:

            Yep.

            In an ideal world, DACA would have been history and all illegals would have been shown the door on Day 1. However, the ideal world does not take the Swamp into account and the measures the gatekeepers will take (and have taken) to prevent MAGA from happening. As I’ve stated, I do not agree with every decision the President makes, but it would be disingenuous of me to ignore the fact that the President is making a sincere effort to make MAGA a reality (while trying to deal with opposition from both sides).

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        • The thing that NOBODY is pointing out is the hypocracy of Chuckie and Nancy working with a “Nazi”

          The Republican establishment couldn’t be bothered to soil their hands by even congratulating him on winning an upset election. Ryan had to “work on it”.

          But now it appears The Dems are ready to pucker up and give PDJT a big kiss. Does that mean Chuckie and Nancy are racists?

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    • PDQ says:

      Like…well said.

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  23. nwtex says:

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  24. missmarple2 says:

    Two pages of comments wasted and I hope all the nay-sayers have learned their lesson: always wait to hear what The Boss says!

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      That’s always a good lesson. Wait until the President has spoken.

      If funding and construction of the border wall were to be tied to anything, it might be infrastructure. A border wall meets the definition of infrastructure. It’s a permanent and foundational capital investment in our country, and makes possible and supports economic activity.

      Disengage the wall discussions as much as possible from immigration and the demagogues lose most of their talking points.

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    • PatriotKate says:

      I have always thought he would use DACA as his bargaining chip with the Democrats. My only criteria is that they could receive permanent residency, but not citizenship since they came here illegally. Unless chain migration is changed, it would open the door to amnesty for the very people who brought them here.

      If we get tightened immigration, border security with The Wall, then I’d be happy to allow the Dreamers permanent residency.

      The Wall is imperative for future administrations, who might otherwise become just as lax as O did. Physical borders are harder to allow to be breached.

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    • Jerzy2GA says:

      Agreed. told someone in reddit on ” The Donald” I’ll wait until i hear from the President in the morning and sure enough. As for the politics, if he ended DACA on the same day without any clarification or a grace period, the politics would be irreversible. Republicans wouldn’t cover for him(likely join the dems in attack) and the Dems would constantly attack him and politicize and all potential deportations. Him ending DACA in one day was never going to happen.

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    • FofBW says:

      Waiting, however, did expose the uniparty folks commenting here.

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    • janc1955 says:

      Should’ve been sent within a split second of the Chuck & Nancy statement, not after he saw or heard the fallout from their statement. And “… in exchange for consent” on what, exactly? Amnesty for the “dreamers?”

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  25. Larry Bucar says:

    PDJT”s twitter is reassuring the deplorables PDJT hasn’t conceded the wall or illegal aliens as FOX nerds have reported

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  26. missmarple2 says:

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  27. citizen817 says:

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    • PDQ says:

      If they are illegal…yes. Just like the government’s whence they came would do to you and me. How many dreamers have committed crimes, sme resulting n death. Ask those families how they feel about the poison in the mix.

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      • Bull Durham says:

        They need extreme vetting!

        And they need to be described accurately.
        Only 300+ are military.
        Nearly all are adults, not children.

        I’m for paying them to leave.
        Always have been for incentivizing their departure.

        Now that states are allowing “anyone” to vote, the American democratic process is totally fixed against citizens.

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      • quintrillion says:

        Yes, they can go make Mexico whatever again. These are the same invaders that take, take, take then beat up & riot at Trump rallies. In the back of their minds they will always have the urge to push for more free stuff…because they will have learned that’s how it’s done. No, they must go back with their illegal, sneaky parents and get in line. Take their names and parents are not allowed back…they broke the law and lived of USA long enough.

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      • I agree. I don’t want to be made into a second class citizen. When my children are allowed to go and work and live in their countries of origin, anytime they want, with full comparable education and welfare rights, then I may agree.

        It’s either for all, or for none at all.

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    • mightyconservative says:

      Yes, collateral damage, and it stops future illegal border crossing, actions speak louder than words.

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    • rhcrest says:

      Yes I do Mr. President if they are here illegally! They are taking college slots and college tuition aid away from America’s young people. They are taking jobs away from Americans. I want every one of them gone!

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    • soozword says:

      You bet, Mr. President, I want them thrown out and I’m very upset with your wussy statement here! They get to stay, it’s basically amnesty and they WILL get full citizenship eventually, along with all their damn relatives. Demography is destiny and true patriotic Americans are a vanishing species.

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      • Kaco says:

        soozword, were you the one who had a meeting or something with NumbersUSA? I had complained that their action board had nothing about the wall the entire time since PT was elected. The only thing on my wall was abolish birthright citizenship, which I would consider to be the last step. Why would they reach for the hardest right now instead of having us fax congress about wall funding and construction? If it’s you, you were going to ask at a next meeting about it and I wondered what came of it..

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        • soozword says:

          Dats me–good memory, Kaco! Guess NumbersUSA lost interest in me the past six months since I haven’t done much with them re donations and/or public speaking on imm the last year. Last few years would get invites to telephone conferences with their staff and Roy for some “inside baseball” (confidential info), but no calls now for months. Have been super busy moving our household from CA to UT that I haven’t even gone to my action board since Spring.

          Totally agree with you about action board priorities. Get the easier, doable, timely action done in support of PTrump now and leave birthright citizenship to later. Wish NumbersUSA would come up with a fresh approach too. Or resurrect the highway signs like the defunct ProjectUSA which were pretty effective years ago. The last two years I’ve gotten a bit more help from FAIR’s national field director which is why I shifted more donation dollars to them last year. Have you signed up for FAIR’s alerts?

          Traveling in western PA right now and so far it’s a culture shock of almost 100% American- born people here given the inverse in CA (am sure it varies by PA community though)! Will check my action board when I get home to see what is offered. Thanks for rhe heads up.

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          • Kaco says:

            Wow, soozword, thanks for checking back and letting me know!

            I had only belonged to NumbersUSA the past 12 years or so, I know I started sometime during the Bush administration. That’s interesting that you did so much work with them, and a little dismaying how quickly they dropped you, so to speak.

            I think last I checked was last month, and still nothing but that “abolish birthright citizenship”.

            I am just totally perplexed why they wouldn’t have us hounding Congress about the wall among other things.

            I think I had mentioned before, I had suspected they might want to keep the illegal immigration fight going and don’t want it stopped or their business stops.

            It was very easy to send messages from them to Congress so it’s disappointing.

            Safe travels to you and good luck with your move. Some of my relatives moved from California to Utah some years ago, an aunt and uncle live in the St. George area and her daughter and her family live outside Salt Lake, I think her husband is a weather anchor on some station there. My husband’s sister’s husband is from Utah and they lived there a number of years. It’s a very pretty state.

            Thanks again for getting back. I saw your name and wanted to ask!

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    • 6x47 says:

      Typical CTH follow up: Well yeah that’s what he said, but it’s all, like, 4D chess, man.

      Most Treepers only care about “muh Globalists” and everything else is negotiable.

      So PDJT signals that he’s ready to give away the store with an amnesty that his base violently opposes, in return for “massive border security” (whatever that means).

      But hey – they haven’t dotted the lay i or crossed the last “t”! And Congress still has to pass it, right? So there is no “deal” is TECHNICALLY true.

      So once again, melt the damn phone lines and pressure Congress NO AMNESTY, NO WAY!

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    • Bendix says:

      I certainly do! This is the reason Donald J. Trump was able to gain any traction at all as a candidate.
      We barely escaped the push for amnesty, with the MSM telling us lies daily, the last time.
      I was at wit’s end, we were looking at the end of America as we know it. NO politician would stand up for us, the will of the people was not good enough for them.
      If Donald Trump caves on this, the very issue America chose him on…
      Here again is Ann Coulter’s description of the many ways the MSM/government has lied and lied about this issue, and exactly what is at stake:
      http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-09-13.html#read_more
      Like her or hate her, she’s 100% in the right.

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    • Bob says:

      Even if PDJT gave them everything they ever wanted, they would not be satisfied and lie to the media about it….REMEMBER their agenda is to destroy and take over the USA, unfortunately not too many will say it out loud.

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    • janc1955 says:

      That 3rd tweet is a doozy.

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    • TheWanderingStar says:

      If these “accomplished young people”, “good, educated” statements are true, would not the first question in these people’s minds be, “What is my legal status?” and “What do I need to become legal?”. I think that those that enlisted in the military asked themselves those very questions and chose the military path as a result. The rest? Not so much.

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  28. W-D says:

    Trump is on his way to betraying those of us who put him in office. One single illegal gets amnesty by his pen, I’m done with him. I’m halfway there already over his dealings with the Dims and his 6 month DACA BS instead of immediately starting deportations.

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    • fedback says:

      what did you get out of 8 months of dealing with GOP. Nothing

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      • W-D says:

        You might as well start supporting the Democrats now because Trump has fallen right straight into the Uniparty’s trap and so have you.

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      • Oldschool says:

        So fedback, your answer is to make a deal about DACA? Most folks have been saying for years, FIRST SECURE THE BORDER, then we discuss immigration reform. These are two seperate issues and should be handled accordingly. Our border and the sovereignty of our nation should never be subjected to “a deal” of any kind. Too many are fixated on splitting the base with this narrative. My concern is the new flood of illegals that will start pouring in. Based on history, this is about to amp up and that makes us less secure.

        If your ship is sinking due to a leak, first you plug the leak, stabilize your ship, then concern yourself with the course.

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        • lokiscout says:

          What does DACA have to do with “the new flood of illegals that will start pouring in.”? DACA has ended Daca was for people brought here illegally as kids by their parents. Nothing to do with illegals sneaking across the border on their own now or in the past.

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    • Piper77 says:

      It will never pass the House, so don’t worry about it.

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    • citizen817 says:

      Deportation of the criminals and gang members have been an on-going thing.
      And what was so wrong that he did a deal with Dems. He had to bypass the Rino Republican Obstructionism. Get a grip, a brain, or a heart. You be done with the 1 man trying to save the Republic from the abyss.
      So it’s your way or the highway with P45.
      Mighty shallow of you.

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      • W-D says:

        And now you’re talking like a Democrat.

        Trump won’t “save the Republic” by crawling on his hands and knees for help to the ones who nearly tanked it in the first place. That would be the Democrats, btw, since you both have forgotten that one important fact.

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        • Joe Knuckles says:

          Go back and listen to what Trump said during the campaign about “dreamers”. What he is doing now is consistent with what he did back then.
          Ted Cruz, on the other hand, went to greet illegals at the border with gifts to reward them for coming to our country illegally. That’s just one of the many reasons Toxic Ted will never be president.

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      • lokiscout says:

        Back when I was a kid there was a term for that “one trick poney.”

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    • Dora says:

      This one gets me nervous. They might be wonderful, brilliant, talented, exceptional young people. But they are here illegally and they can not stay! Period!

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      • W-D says:

        Thank you.

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        Dora, you’re right. However, we are also fools if we buy into the line the left is selling that the majority of them are top students, brilliant, talented, and good citizens. They cherry pick a few who have a good record and try to make people think that’s all of them. It isn’t and we need to keep the facts at the forefront to make it clear. However, regardless of what there record is, you hit the nail on the head when you said that they are here illegally. That’s the point. Sure, they may have been brought here as children without a choice, but there is a price a family pays when a member, especially a parent, commits a crime. When a father commits a crime and goes to prison, the entire family pays a price, which often includes losing their ability to maintain the lifestyle they’ve known because they lose his income when he goes to prison. That is a price that is paid. And the fact is that that price also serves as a deterrent to people to think before committing a crime because their actions will impact their family. But somehow the UniParty wants us to believe that that concept doesn’t apply in this situation. The left have built a very successful process of getting what they want by saying children will be hurt and it’s unfair. They use those two arguments on virtually everything.

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      • amwick says:

        I was confused this morning, I still am. The midnight treeper crew were so confident… That 6:28 tweet left me unhappy.

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      • Kaco says:

        We all know Pres Trump cannot create the amnesty law for DACA recipients, only Congress can. we also surmised voting for the Dream Act would be political suicide for Republicans. The problem with Pres Trump’s statement is it gives those in Congress a bolster to go ahead and vote for DACA amnesty if the President is surely for it. He is trying to convince everyone to “have a heart”.

        There is no way he’d veto a DACA amnesty after the statements he’s made about them.

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    • Trump2020 says:

      You really don’t get the art of the deal do you? You best just shut your trap before you make yourself look more stupid than you already made yourself out to be. It’s sad that he has to dine with demoncraps just to get his own party to fall in line with his agenda! You should be complaining about the the uniparty Rethuglicans.

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    • RushBaby says:

      At this point, I’d gladly take a deal with the Dems if it included sending dying John McCain back to Vietnam and feeding the GOPe leadership to ISIS.

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    • quintrillion says:

      Yes, Really! I live next door to a house full of these ass-holes. They live here but hate America except for their cars and free stuff. GET THEM OUT!

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  29. W-D says:

    And now he talks just like a Democrat. We might as well have elected Jeb Bush. I’m done with Trump until he starts acting like the Conservative and Republican we elected.

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    • JohnG says:

      Same troll diff account. So many give a ways in the text. Esp. the “jeb” crap. Move along back to Cruzbart

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    • fedback says:

      Republicans have the House and the Senate, yet they have accomplished nothing. They can’t even repeal and replace O-care. They are useless

      Liked by 3 people

      • W-D says:

        And Trump is the leader of the REPUBLICAN party. He’s supposed to be cracking the establishment’s heads to get things done, not run to the Democrats like he’s now doing.

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        • BAMAFan says:

          Actually, Trump is President of the United States. He has a responsibility to represent ALL the citizens and do what is in the interest of ALL citizens. About time we had someone in the office who understands that. All this partisan bickering is leading to divisions and gridlock. That is not how one goes about building a great hotel or office tower. And it’s not how one goes about building a great country.

          I don’t agree with everything coming from this White House, but I believe the leader we elected has surrounded himself with smart people who provide sound advice which he uses to make decisions. I am enjoying the ride and expecting many surprises. M A G A

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      • John G. McLachlan says:

        On the contrary, they are very useful to the people they serve, even though that is not the American people. They accomplish everything that their owners desire of them.

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      W-D, you make a mistake calling Trump a conservative and Republican. Yes, he’s a member of the Republican Party and head of it so he is technically a Republican. But he doesn’t fit the conservative mode except in a few areas. He’s not ideological, so I think we make a mistake to try to put a label like that on him. I think he’s an American patriot first and foremost and ideology doesn’t even cross his mind. He just wants to fix America’s problems.

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    • The Defiant One says:

      Jeb had no backbone… nor energy. Same with the OTHER dozen plus Republican candidates — who would have folded in the FIRST WEEK had they beat (not possible) KILLARY!

      And if you believe EVERY STATEMENT by the Democrats than I have a secret double secret Russian dossier drawn by a 3 year old Russian super spy for you!

      And that Tweet made by President Trump is a human statement made from sentiment.

      Yes, their the “Dreamers” families did break the law by bringing them here into the US, that goes without question. But a toddler’s family illegally brings a child, that child really can’t say no. Does that make them legal, NO! It just acknowledges it’s a messed up situation the NOW ADULT is in.

      And no-where in that that tweet does he say AMNESTY!

      The situation is simple, the ESTABLISHMENT/UNIPARTY want people to waiver. It’s easier to destroy Pres. Trump that way– easier to destroy ALL OF US that way!

      These are the same individuals that would SELL OUT THE UNITES STATES for GLOBAL INTEREST… and you just want to give up when the FAKE NEWS… as always LIES that he gave up on the Wall?

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      • Bendix says:

        I happen to know for fact of numerous families with “Dreamers” in them, and those “Dreamers” have spent years at a time back in Mexico.
        All they needed to do was, the next time they went home to Mexico to “visit”, is just stay there.

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        • The Defiant One says:

          The Wall–which is still being built, which Schumer and Pelosi lied about, will help the “Dreamers” adjust faster in their country of origin.

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    • janc1955 says:

      I am not persuaded, President Trump.

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      • Kaco says:

        Neither am I. Is he trying to persuade Congress with these statements?

        Now, how could our president ever veto a DACA amnesty after making these statements? I don’t care what Schumer/Pelosi say about anything but this is the horse’s mouth. He’d be vilified up and down if his actions go against these statements.

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  30. missmarple2 says:

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    • PDQ says:

      Why do they get FREE everything? We am I paying for their freebies while my kids get nothing? Why are they waving the Mexican flag and flipping me off? If they are such wonderful citizens, send them back to help their country become better. It’s immoral and unethical to burden American citizens with rewardng criminal behavior. This logic is EXACTLY what TPTB hoped for when they allowed this ‘temporsry’ solution.

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      • straightstreet says:

        We went into the town a couple days ago to the grocery store. Ahead of us was a Spanish speaking woman and her partner. Their cart was so full of groceries that it was mounded a foot up at the top. We, the american taxpayer, are paying for those groceries while we scrape by to feed our families. Onto Sams club next where we came across several muslim families with the women covered. We have never come across them in our area. DH and I are just sick about it. What has happened to our country?

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        What is TPTB?

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      • wyntre says:

        Someone somewhere made an interesting point the other day.

        If the “dreamers” are here through no fault of their own and thus should not be punished

        The same is true of the great great great grandchildren of slaveholders who have never owned slaves (Eg, WHITES).

        If the sins of the father should not be visited upon their children in the case of “dreamers” (BARF) then the same is true for ALL such historical slights.

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      • decisiontime16 says:

        They get the freebies. We get the unsustainable debt.

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    • LKA in LA says:

      I do not agree using people as bargaining chips or slave labor. If President Trump plans on allowing these illegials to stay, then he needs to say so. If he does not plan on allowing them to stay, then he needs to say it. You do not bargain with humans.

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      • Kaco says:

        He can’t make the rules, it’s up to Congress which is the only legal way.

        However, I can do without his bleeding heart statements goading them into voting for it.

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  31. Peter says:

    Tweet to Hillary – what REALLY happened

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  32. missmarple2 says:

    By the time you vet the people concerned and remove those guilty of crimes, the number is going to be much smaller.

    The PR disaster of deporting guys who have served in Afghanistan, or priests, or young women who have small children, would be enormous. If you angry people can’t see this, there is no hope for you in politics. The President is doing what is right and in a legal way.

    Frankly, before Obama wrote that executive order, I would bet 90% of Americans didn’t even know these people existed. Congress should have done something about this years ago, but they didn’t. It is now up to the President to come up with a humane solution that is legal.

    Now I am done for this morning, as I can see the angry people and trolls will be back.

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  33. Dora says:

    I’m sure you are all getting tired of reading about Hillary, but you’ve got to see this. 🙂

    =====

    Hillary Wanted To Make Voodoo Dolls Of The Media And Congressmen

    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton toyed with the idea of making voodoo dolls of members of the media and congressmen in response to the scandal over her email server, according to her new book.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/12/hillary-wanted-to-make-voodoo-dolls-of-the-media-and-congressmen/

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  34. straightstreet says:

    I’m very discouraged this morning. I’ve been here at the treehouse for 2 years so I’m not trolling. I feel like under Obama our country was invaded by illegals and muslims. I supported Pres. Trump because I wanted them gone. I wanted my country back!

    Liked by 6 people

    • Piper77 says:

      What did he agree to? It has to pass the House, which it never will.

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    • fedback says:

      he wants a wall and strong border security, sounds good to me

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      I’ve raised questions, too, straightstreet. I’ve asked for people to please explain what they see as Trump’s meaning behind the tweet that asks who’d want to send them back to their home countries, yet no one answers. They only state that they believe in him or that the legislation won’t pass the House. Those aren’t answers. I haven’t given up at all on Trump, but I sure can’t understand this one.

      And as for those who hold on to the idea that it won’t pass the House, they’re being unrealistic. The House very much wants these people to stay. So does the Senate. There is a very small part of each house of Congress that is against it, but it’s a very small number that couldn’t get anywhere near the votes to do what they want.

      I’m with you straightstreet. I’d like to understand how people see this but we’re not getting any answers at this point.

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      • joanfoster says:

        Good comment, Ken Lawson. I could not agree more!

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      • Indeed. To me, it sounds like the CTH has become more like a cult of Trump, rather than a group of citizens concerned about their country.

        Call me a troll. I don’t care. I’ve been called that for years. I won’t be silenced.

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        • lokiscout says:

          Why? Because most of us don’t agree with your one issue stance and push back? The country has gone through this immigration mania many times before. First with Chinese brought here as cheap labor for the railroads. Again with the Irish who were starved out of their homeland by the potato famine and yet again by the Italians. Yes the new round of immigrants aren’t interested in assimilating but is that their fault or the Progressive society we have generated over the past 100 years?

          Imagine how some of my Native American friends feel? Some of them would like to see us all go back where we came from and give them their land back!

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    • Bendix says:

      I’m with you.
      I had concerns about what I was seeing, way before Barack Obama was even heard of. It got worse and worse under him, but even during the Bush administration, I had to hear on the news almost every night about how most Americans were in favor of amnesty. I knew that was a lie.
      Donald Trump tapped into that despair. We came through for him.
      I’m angry at the very idea we are even talking about the stinking “Dreamers”. Barack Obama must be having a good cackle over that one. Just give them a Disney-like name, and presto! His will is done, everybody buys into the garbage that Americans need to worry about poor little Mexicans.
      Why did we bother to elect a non-politician?
      This is the hill America lives or dies on.

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  35. citizen817 says:

    He will deal with this compassionately.
    As long as the wall goes up, and it is.
    As long as the criminals and gang members are removed, and they are.

    What’s the problem?

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    • 6x47 says:

      This is pretty bad. Not buying any “3-D chess” or anything else on this turd. It’s a lie, he stabbed his base in the back, and no amount of sophistry is going to change that.

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    • W-D says:

      He promised all illegals would be deported including Obama’s illegal “Dreamers”. As of this morning, by Trump’s own keyboard, that’s off, he’s betraying those of us who counted on him to carry through with his campaign promises. And suckers like you are burying you’re heads in the sand so you can keep up your hero-worship.

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      • fedback says:

        you should go into politics, then we can all vote for you

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      • Piper77 says:

        You’re an idiot. Trump was always vague on the “dreamers” I always knew there might be a deal with them for the wall.

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      • joenigma says:

        He never promised to deport all the illegals. He said he’ll get rid of the bad ones fast, but will have to see what we have to do with the good ones.
        Some will have to go back but will be expedited in a quick way back in through the big beautiful door in his wall.

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        • Ken Lawson says:

          Actually, you’re half right. He originally said he would deport them all, that they all had to go. He said they might be back in quickly, but they would have to leave. Then a very short time later he changed it to saying he’d get rid of the bad ones fast but we’d have to see about the good ones. I don’t see that as a change in his position as much as a realization that it’s probably impossible to get rid of them.

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        • Kroesus says:

          oh but he DID say “if you are here illegally you have to go HOME”….but did promise to build a door in his “big beautiful wall” to bring them back….that was where the “touchback” proposal was floated during the campaign….you do have such a short memory

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      • Bo3484 says:

        You need to take a breath and think beyond gutteral instinct.
        We are a nation of law abiding immigrants who took the initiative to become citizens long before most of us were born. By our birth the instant process of our citizenship began.
        So again, think…the government has not enforced immigration laws for years to the extent or intention of the good of the country.
        All the president has said in the campaign is if deportation were his policy, they can come back in legally by going through the proper process.
        With DACA he is keeping this promise without tearing people from their jobs or their families and communities.
        If those born to illegal immigrants are not felons, and are employed, give them a period of time to register with E- Verify and begin the path to their citizenship. If after a period of time those people fail to register and begin the process, then apply the law to have them deported.
        No such option should exist for felons, and absolutely no form of welfare, public assistance or Medicaid/Medicare/ACA for anyone not registered with ‘E- Verify’. The point in the previous sentence should apply for ANY undocumented illegal immigrant, not just ‘Dreamers’.

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    • LKA in LA says:

      The problem is they are illegial and we are paying for their dreams/our nightmares.. They get free/tax payer funded everything. These people ruined the medical and education systems here with their influx and lawsuits. We do not want to pay for it any longer.

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    • amwick says:

      Rule follower here. These people broke the rules. Their parents broke the rules. Why is that complicated? If our President is schmoozing the Dims, and then figures that Congress will do the dirty work, hey, that would be wonderful. That is what I am hoping. But that would require faith in congress, of which I have none. Zip…

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    • rhcrest says:

      The problem is that these kids are getting boatloads of freebies at our expense. The problem is that our kids don’t get those freebies – they take our kids college slots away from them and they get the full load of tuition paid for by these colleges. That money could go to American children. The problems is these illegals get all sorts of freebies and benefits that we Americans pay for yet we don’t have access to. The problem is that these illegals are taking our jobs. And the other problem is that lots of them don’t work, take welfare and commit crimes. So yes there are lots of problems here!

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      • Bendix says:

        Children of other immigrants don’t get the same consideration. Oh, no. The families trying to come here legally do one teeny thing wrong, and it’s out they go.
        If you meet any Irish immigrants, ask them to tell you about it.

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    • He also wants Raise Act which is much better than the Wall.

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    • Pam says:

      Here’s the big issue. If POTUS says he’ll deport all of them, then the liberal kangaroo courts will intervene and will stop it like they are trying to do with the travel ban with one ruling after another. He’s been placed in a very difficult position over this. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes for anything right now.

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    • janc1955 says:

      What’s the problem? Seriously?

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  36. Martin says:

    After 8 years of vindictive “leadership” from Zero, we have become accustomed, and rather expect it, from the Oval Office. If you’re looking for that from Trump, you’re looking in the wrong place.

    Has he said, at any point, that deportations would stop? No. Is he the type of leader who throws away a resource, once spent? No. Does the education the Dreamers obtained, however distasteful the circumstances, qualify for classification as valuable? You betcha. His tweets make that abundantly clear. Has he said the wall will be built? Absolutely.

    From the beginning, Trump has represented a “third way” in politics. The red/blue paradigm is dead. Let’s not get upset when he works outside of that.

    Battered Conservative Syndrome is a terrible thing. Worse still, is quick condemnation at the ready, when appearances are indeed deceiving. If you’ve ever had a “friend” like that, take a moment to stop and consider the grace extended by Donald J. Trump, to those who aren’t as quick on the uptake as they think they are.

    He’s got this. Mistrust is unfounded. Very.

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  37. NJF says:

    Congress is FUBAR. Watching Mornings with Maria and I’m listening to 2 of them argue against the new tax plan. The D-hole is insisting that he won’t support a 15% Corp tax rate or lowering tax rate for “those doing ok”‘, the R A-hole isn’t making any sense at all. Maybe I haven’t had enough coffee.

    Clearly the Pelosi/Schumer DACA statement was designed to make POTUS look like the bad guy.

    Same BS different day.

    Liked by 2 people

  38. Guy K says:

    Does anyone notice how often the trolls, like an infestation, come out — er, are deployed — in the middle of the night?

    Liked by 4 people

  39. I’m looking forward to the trusted commenters interpretation of what’s going on with DACA, border wall, and immigration. I am a huge supporter of President Trump. I was hoping that illegal immigrants would be deported, if they are not won’t the illegals just keep coming? Not to be cold hearted but if they can have their crime of coming here illegally forgiven because of sympathy then why not a poor white Americans crime, (like theft to support the family), be forgiven? Where is the line going to be drawn?

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    • John says:

      This problem was caused by decades of negligence and lack of enforcement from prior administrations as is our $20T in debt. The lack of fiscal discipline requires more and more people to enter the country to pay our interest load and future obligations. This working generation has already had the ability to generate meaningful interest on saving taken away from them.

      Liked by 2 people

    • wyntre says:

      Repost:

      Someone somewhere made an interesting point the other day.

      If the “dreamers” are here through no fault of their own and thus should not be punished

      The same is true of the great great great grandchildren of slaveholders who have never owned slaves (Eg, WHITES).

      If the sins of the father should not be visited upon their children in the case of “dreamers” (BARF) then the same is true for ALL such historical slights

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    • Kroesus says:

      reports at the border are surging levels of new illegals trying to cross the last 4 months……any time our government talks of relaxing enforcement or possibility of any form of amnesty you get increased activity at the border…..no doubt the new crossers who are successful will also claim they are covered under the DACA restrictions when Trump gets his “bipartisan solution” from Congress

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  40. n1ghtcr4wler says:

    what is it with these Breitbart concern trolls. you have to trust Trump, hes playing the long game. what’s the alternative? vote demoncrat? vote cuckservative? lol

    Liked by 3 people

  41. With Schumer and Pelosei rushing to media to say DACA deal ” done” seems like trying to bum rush Trump to result . This tactic has been tried before and Trump doesn’t fall for it. Corrects with own tweets to 38 million plus people . And now you know why his enemies ( uniparty , media ) don’t want him to use twitter. No other President could reverse hours of hysterical media narrative with a couple of simply stated tweets . Now they have to deal with his tweets vs narrative and they are not happy

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      It’s not just a bum rush. Schumer and Pelosi also benefit by driving the narrative that the President isn’t a trusted negotiator, i.e. says one thing in private and another in public.

      My analysis is that Schumer and Pelosi would much rather make a veto-proof, Uni-party deal with Ryan and McConnell and leave the President outside standing alone.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Bendix says:

        Americans just got schlonged, big time, by giant Equifax Corporation.
        Oh, no problem, just EVERYBODY IN AMERICA get on the phone with not one, not two, but three corporations, to ‘freeze’ your credit so criminals won’t ruin you financially. And BTW, Equifax isn’t taking your calls.
        This is what Chuck and Nancy are making a priority, the poor widdle Dweamers.

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  42. Piper77 says:

    I can’t believe so many people thought the dreamers were actually ever going to be deported.

    Liked by 1 person

    • JohnP says:

      I can, it’s all the MSM has been accusing him for over a year. If you believe that Donald Trump is a christian, then you realize his goals are to stop the flood, remove the bad eggs, and provide a legal pathway.

      Liked by 1 person

    • amwick says:

      There is so much fraud in that DACA program. It is sullied, it is tainted. Basically any illegal alien can join the party…. That’s how I see it. And the welfare costs!!… Why wouldn’t I believe that they should go? You have 8 hundred thousand people, how do you decide which are good? Figuring that they are all contributors is naive. So how do you pick and choose?

      Liked by 5 people

      • cycle1 says:

        All very good questions. If there is a way to separate true contributors to society from felons and evaluating those in the middle, perhaps a plan could be arrived at? But that “If” is a big “IF”

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      • lokiscout says:

        You obviously haven’t read the DACA document you are posting about.

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        • amwick says:

          You know this how? Out of curiosity I looked up the application process, I did read the application,,, it seemed nearly impossible for anyone to have the document required. I still believe that there is a lot of fraud in the program as a whole.

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      • The worst part is that Obama got away with his little plan. Kinda like Obamcare right? Leave it on the books long enough, and there is little you can do to get rid of it. I though POTUS could correct this though. Not that difficult, unless your “feelings” get in the way. MAKOGA.(Make America Kind of Great Again).

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      • janc1955 says:

        I’ll almost guarantee you can DOUBLE that 800,000 number. It’s probably about as accurate as the 11 million illegals number we’ve been hearing for at least a decade.

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  43. Dora says:

    This is obscene! Are these commies going to be allowed to tear the city apart?

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    BELAFONTE SET TO JUDGE NYC STATUES

    Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on Harry Belafonte sitting in judgment of monuments in New York City:

    New York City’s left-wing mayor, Bill de Blasio, has selected his left-wing friend, Harry Belafonte, to advise him on which New York City monuments are so hateful that they should be removed. The singer is one of 18 persons selected to be on the panel which will render an opinion.

    http://www.catholicleague.org/belafonte-set-to-judge-nyc-statues/

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  44. ladypenquin says:

    I read through much of the thread in the night hours. Can’t think of anything useful to add. I do believe that taking a look at Larry Schweihart’s twitter thread might be helpful. Yesterday, he did a series of numbered tweets regarding the DACA, Pelosi and Schumer memes, and has additional tweets as well. Just scroll down through his timeline. BTW, he usually tweets a few in the morning and then at night. This is the man who wrote “How Donald Trump Won” and “the Patriots History of the United States.”

    I always remind myself that Hillary is not in the White House. President Trump is no fool, and he does have our interests at heart; it’s why he has placed himself (and his family) in harm’s way for the people.

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  45. Just Scott says:

    I am finding some interesting things using the google search term:
    . https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ “username says:”
    i.e. some username’s that peaked my interest all seem to have started posing in May, 2017.

    Wait until you see the whites of their eyes…

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  46. cycle1 says:

    Liked by 5 people

    • amwick says:

      Good point. Maybe I will feel better after breakfast… maybe.

      Liked by 1 person

    • wj2016 says:

      Tax reform didn’t get him elected. Tax reform did not win the Blue states, nor did health care. Immigration is what caught me and many others in the early Summer of 2015. This Bill Mitchell guy is an un-conditional love type of person and this tweet was disturbing by showing that he could support an immigration sell out.

      Liked by 4 people

    • cycle1 says:

      I think the key word is “negotiating”. POTUS’ indicated that no deal was made. I continue to believe POTUS fighting for US and our best interests with every tool available to him.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Bendix says:

      That’s nice. If I want the man I voted for to do what I voted for him to do, I’m an idiot for expecting him to do it?

      Liked by 1 person

      • cycle1 says:

        You are not an idiot. Just don’t be “done with Trump” for negotiating. On issues that have been finalized (which this issue is NOT finalized) has Trump failed us yet? Keep fighting for why you voted for him especially since this is not a done deal. Believe me though, before this is all over you will see the genius behind Trump’s negotiating tactics.

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    • Wiggyky says:

      I agree. I have never really trusted folks who are one issue folks. They always claim they voted for now will never vote for or reelect so and so over one issue while hundreds of other issues also need to be solved. These people need to grow up, study American History, Civics, the Constitution and join the rest of the intelligent world.

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      • cycle1 says:

        If in the end we have a wall and a really secure border, DACA felons and gang members deported, DACA people sucking our tax dollars deported, I really don’t mind coming up with a reasonable plan to deal with the remaining DACA people who are not receiving welfare and can be made to pay taxes. That seems reasonable to make up for the irresponsibility of Dems and RINO’s for NOT properly dealing with these people in the past.

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  47. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    I’ve been hard on Gorka recently, but I wanted to praise him for his appearance on Hannity last night. While many are running around screaming “Betrayal!” about DACA, Gorka was praising Trump and going over Trump’s strategy on the show.

    Great work by him, particularly as the “Betrayal!” hysteria seems to be running rampant on Breitbart at the moment.

    As nightcr4wler alluded to above, politics is almost always a binary choice. So, you either get Trump or you get Hillary. Would anyone seriously want Hillary over Trump, even if Trump makes a DACA deal? Would anyone seriously want Lyin’ Ted over Trump? Ted who was passing out soccer balls or whatever on the border and who had the Goldman loan. Ted who is best buddies with Beck and the NeverTrumpers. Ted who was still bitter and petty at the convention.

    Trump is playing the hand that he’s been dealt. If we want to talk about betrayal, the true betrayal is what the GOPe did to the American people regarding ObamaCare. They talked for 7 years, and when the time came they had nothing ready and they dropped the ball. Just as their puppet masters wanted.

    Trump believed the GOP. That was a huge mistake. But the lesson has been learned, and we are moving on now.

    In order for Trump to be able to effect policies, he has to remain in power. And he has to have as strong of polls as possible. And he has to have enough people willing to work with him as necessary to pass legislation. He’s not a king, he can’t do whatever he wants.

    Steve Bannon, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin and the entire Breitbart staff will never be elected president. They will never wield any serious political power. They are the peanut gallery, trying to tell the quarterback how he should play while they sit in the stands.

    No one is a better deal maker than Trump is. It’s taken him awhile to warm up to the task of governance, and he’s had to endure an unbelievable amount of strain in his first 8 months of office. More than maybe anyone in history.

    Let him build back up. Once he starts getting some legislative and optics victories, then he will start to solidify his support. And as he solidifies his support, then we will get more of what we hoped for when we elected him.

    We’re in a marathon here. Don’t drop out of the race 3 miles into it. It gets better, but you won’t be able to enjoy that part if you take yourself out of the contest now.

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    • I got the biggies already – Supreme Court, no TPP, Climate Change garbage gone, NAFTA on its way out… ICE booting criminals. I love what he is doing. People saying betrayal based on MSM can’t see the forest for the trees.

      PS – if our economy grows at 4%, there will be jobs for all these people that sit and post on blogs and twitter all day… TAX REFORM and TRADE are the keys to a unified happy America. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Everything else (issues/policy) is amplified because of slow growth…. Trump knows cash in your pocket makes life better.

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      • MakeAmericaGreat says:

        Great points. He’s already done so much.

        If the economy is at 4% and Trump is mistake-free (as he has been in the last three weeks), he is going to be re-elected. Barring some Mueller Miracle for the Dems.

        And as he continues to get more credit for the economy, his polls will rise. As his polls rise, he will get more of what he really wants.

        People have to remember that the Dems/Deep State/NeverTrumpers/Media/GOPe were in a full out coup to take Trump down. It’s incredible he’s still standing.

        It’s going to take time to get his power level back up. But if we’re patient, the best is yet to come.

        He is locked in now. The change in him over the past 3-4 weeks is unbelievable. And he’s so good, once he focuses on a task it’s going to happen.

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    • CorwinAmber says:

      nicely put…as I have said on many occasions to no one in particular, for me it is all about the judges – without conservative judges in place to “rule” on his initiatives, President Trump will have difficulty making any headway. So, for me, jumping off the Trump train will be a result of him doing a deal with Schumer for liberal judges. Until then, I am hanging on for dear life…what a wild ride!

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  48. Dora says:

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