6:00pm Live Stream Oral Arguments Within Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals…

Tonight at 6:00pm EST / 3:00pm PST three judges from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will hear oral arguments from Washington State and the President Trump Department of Justice on a motion to stay the previous injunction halting the Trump administration’s temporary visa suspension (90-day travel ban) from seven identified nations.

The appeals court hearing is being held via phone conference and not in an actual courtroom.  However, the hearing will be live streamed at the website of the 9th circuit, and also it appears RSBN will be running a duplicate live stream feed.

9th Circuit Live Stream HERE – RSBN Live Stream HERE:

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The Department of Justice 15 page court brief outlining their position and the request for the appellate stay is available HERE, and is also embedded below for review:

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726 Responses to 6:00pm Live Stream Oral Arguments Within Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals…

  1. Howie says:

    if we go to war with Russia do we still have to let Russians in so they can spend money and go to school? Maybe the Russian Army can R&R at Waikiki. Or visit the Museum of Art in NYC. That would be nice.

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  2. filia.aurea says:

    Was Michelle Friedland acting as a Judge on the 9th Circus or as Counsel for the Plaintiffs? Constant interruptions as Flentje was responding to her previous interjection of b.s. questions. No decorum. The only real question should a District Judge be allowed to issue a Nationwide TRO against a Constitutional Presidential Executive Order without evidence?

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  3. outerlimitsfan says:

    People need to realize this was also only about the TRO and many more fights on this in future. I suppose Kennedy to come to the rescue on the TRO eventually. He isn’t exactly reliable, but better than Ginsburg or the other lefties.

    Also wonder how much weight the briefs have versus the oral arguments. Neither lawyer did a great job on oral arguments. I think they were both last minute replacements though.

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  4. MVW says:

    It is called blackmail and there is no way to know who has been compromised. Brownstone operations are one of the ways that politicians, key bureaucrats, lawyers, Justices, etc get compromised. Drain the Swamp is desperately needed.

    Liked by 6 people

    • georgiafl says:

      It’s looking more like a sewer than a swamp.

      Liked by 11 people

    • TheseTruths says:

      I REALLY wish the guilty would be arrested. But do people really think there will be 30 or so politicians arrested next week?

      Does anyone here think that Senators Kaine, Feinstein, McCain, Graham, Pelosi, and Schumer will all be areested next week? 6 well-known U.S.Senators?

      In the interest of fairness, I know of no evidence against anyone who wasn’t mentioned in the Podesta emails. Accusing them of pedophilia is serious. If they are guilty, I hope they will be brought to justice; but until then, I don’t like accusations without evidence. Not liking their politics is not evidence. We would be outraged if conservatives were being similarly accused.

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      • WSB says:

        Have we mentioned the Weiner laptop?

        Liked by 1 person

      • woohoowee says:

        As long as illegals keep flooding this way, they’re all guilty of child trafficking. They’re all aware of what goes on.

        “Someone’s doing the raping.”

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      • “Does anyone here think that Senators Kaine, Feinstein, McCain, Graham, Pelosi, and Schumer will all be arrested next week? 6 well-known U.S.Senators?”

        Putting aside the fact that Pelosi is not a Senator, can’t we hope? That’s an excellent start toward draining the swamp on Capitol Hill.

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        • TheseTruths says:

          Oh, yes. Thanks for the correction. Of course we can hope. The first I said was that I wish it were true. I also wish it were true that Hillary would be arrested next week. Anyone think that’s going to happen?

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      • Sue in MT says:

        I heard that a sitting Senator cannot be arrested while the Senate is in session. If this is true, that would explain the delays on confirmations wouldn’t it? Cornyn said he would be happy to have the Senate continue 24/7. Things seem to all be making sense now.

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      • El Torito says:

        To be realistic, why should any of us know of evidence against anyone at all?

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      • Your post is a perfect example of how these criminals are allowed to get away with these crimes. The infamous response “You don’t have proof!” Really means it’s true but we are too afraid to stand up and say it. They laugh at us and they laugh at that easy 4 word tool that keeps people quiet and afraid. I’ve even read accounts of that. The cloak of absurdity is another trick they use. Doing it outright but naive people don’t have any idea it’s going on right in-yer-face. Anyone who thinks you have to have proof to make a charge and so many Americans are so brainwashed they think we have to have it proven in a court of law to make an accusation. BUT WE ARE NOT IN A COURT OF LAW. We are citizens.

        Do they need evidence to accuse us and other good Americans of racism? sexism?
        NO!

        We don’t need proof nor evidence to call them out on pedophilia. They are all so guilty they would not fight the accusation for doing so they would shed a big light into their criminality.

        I will do my part to expose them and I won’t be stupid to fall for their trap “you have no proof.” Which one of them is going to dispute pedophilia accusations? To do so would post it all over the internet and it would be all over the media as well. They’re not going to do one darn thing.

        People need to wake up and stop being a herd of cows in a manger kept in check by a little barking dog!m


        What’s wrong with this picture? Big powerful and many kept at bay by a small barking dog when any minute they need only start walking FORWARD and the dog either gets stomped on or moves out of the way.

        GET WALKING PEOPLE! FORWARD.

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    • The ELITE ARE ALL PEDOPHILES in my book until proven otherwise. Whether they do the crime or just cover the crime up or take dirty money from the child abduction and trafficking and/or other.

      From now on when I address anyone in the media I will include their title PEDOPHILE, and/or that they COVER UP PEDOPHILIA. That includes Jake Tapper, Anderson Cooper, et al ANYONE OF THEM THAT DO NOT EXPOSE WHAT THEY ALL KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN ORDERED NOT TO REPORT.

      They call anyone a “racist” without provocation nor reason.

      This is the best comeback to them: PEDOPHILE and/or COVER UP OF PEDOPHILIA.

      They literally cannot deny it for to do so they would have to bring up the word PEDOPHILIA in their response thus tying themselves to that word and that word will stick to them because it is TRUE. All MSM covers up pedophilia and all MSM has been instructed not to bring it up…EVER. Then there are those that are actually doing it, like 30% of the elite are involved in it in some way shape or form. But to cover it up is keeping more children abused and ruined for the rest of their lives.

      Maybe they will get a taste of their own LABELS eh? But their labels against us are not true like racist, xenophobia, misogynist. BUT THE LABEL OF PEDOPHILE AND COVER UP OF PEDOPHILIA DOES STICK TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL IN FACT AT THE VERY LEAST GUILTY OF COVERING IT UP BY OBEYING ORDERS TO COVER IT UP.

      In the Name of Jesus, Holy Spirit and Heavenly Host of God we beseech you to help us fight and expose and eradicate this crime against humanity PEDOPHILIA and dazzle us with your creativity, wisdom and JUSTICE in how you bring it about.

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    • At 7:40 in the video the “FBI GUY” told the blog at victuruslibertas.com the initials of some of the politicians being investigated “next week.”

      I found this posted by bananaman on February 4, 2017 at 5:32pm in Current News/Events
      Updated February 4, 2017

      An updated list has been compiled with possible names of alledged Washinton D.C. Pedophile Politicians outed by the FBI insider who had previously predicted and helped the citizen investigations into #PizzaGate and #PedoGate.

      The FBI Insider gave a quick Q&A to http://victuruslibertas.com below is the relevant snippet of information of additional names.

      Q.  Good points. So, is PizzaGate connected to the West Coast.
      A.  There is serious connection. Not necessarily connecting to the arrests we hope to see next week, but you may want to look into CES, and also NP and see if that politician has any Pizzadust on their shoes.
      Q. Nancy Pelosi?
      A.  No comment
      Q.  Can you provide some more initials of politicians being investigated?
      

      A . Sure BF, MB, TK, DF, JM, LG There are also journalists, pundits, money men, lobbyists.Many are being tracked down and are about to be exposed, arrested, drained. Some may off themselves when they realize they risk prison, ruination, loss of power, etc.

      Someone over at another forum thinks the initials correspond to:
      CES = Charles Ellis Schumer
      NP = Nancy Pelosi
      BF = Barney Frank
      MB = Michael Blumenthal
      TK = Tim Kaine
      DF = Dianne Feinstein
      JM = John McCain
      LG = Lindsay Graham
      http://12160.info/forum/topics/pizzagate-politicians-have-been-named-chuck-schumer-tim-kaine

      We’ll have to wait and see

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  5. One thing this lawfare travesty does now that so many more people are paying attention to their surroundings: Americans see how corrupted, incompetent and opposed to America itself the institutions have become. And that revolutionary perception alone will seal the fate of a lot of the pozzed judges and courts.

    Trump is a symbol of the hatred normal people feel for this detached evil would-be elite and their harmful ways.

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  6. gary says:

    That lawyer was a “choker”, using Trumps lingo.

    He was a shuddering mess.

    He was incompetent.

    Please Trump get the best lawyer you can.

    What about the “harm caused if an illegal gets in because he wasn’t vetted properly and sets off a dirty nuke in a year from now? What rights do those DEAD citizens have?

    Don’t we have rights not to let Terrorist into this country and blow up stuff? How about the rights of people that are killed by these terrorists. I rather have Trump vet these people properly than let these crying-idiot libs screw up our country more.

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    • benifranlkin says:

      the attorney recovered in the last half…..and the job was dumped on him in the final hour…. pussy judge was insufferable…difficult for a gentleman to deal with.

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      • benifranlkin says:

        we need a million young Marion Le Pens to throw it right back in the feminazi faces.

        Liked by 4 people

      • MaineCoon says:

        Concur. But some litigators write excellent briefs, excel at the law but rarely see a courtroom as most cases settle; therefore, many if not most ‘litigators’ aren’t good in the courtroom. Sad. Definately better during rebuttal.

        Let’s hope DoJ briefs were better than has argument.

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

      The lawyer did the best he could under the circumstance. It was dumped on him at the last minute. The top two DOJ lawyers bailed at the last minute leaving this guy to take the helm. He was a bit nervous in the beginning, but then he got his footing. The Washington state AG was worse in my opinion.

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      • gary says:

        Thanks guys, I didn’t know the 2 lead lawyers bailed the last minute.
        I was very wrong in my assessment of the lawyer.
        It seemed like a stacked deck against him, and they keep interrupting him before he finished his argument.
        Why did the other 2 lawyers bail out, the last minute?

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        • WeThePeople2016 says:

          Apparently, the firm they work for filed an Amicus Brief against the EO.

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          • MaineCoon says:

            I’m confused. DOJ attorneys don’t also worked for private law firms as that would be a conflict. Was it their prior law firms? I don’t see how that should have been a conflict. This sounds rather fishy to me. Anymore information?

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            • WSB says:

              I agree, MC, can’t square it.

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            • james23 says:

              No, DOJ attorneys work full time for government. They withdrew because their FORMER (pre-DOJ) law firm was involved with an Amicus brief.

              Now, that by itself is NOT a conflict of interest which requires withdrawal. Which is why I am very very suspicious that the original lawyer(s) simply took a powder. Which is unconscionable.

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              • Give it Time says:

                Sessions needs to get in there and fire them all. Remember the DOJ is the reason Comey held off on referring any charges. Have you noticed Comey has been quiet?! Wait till Sessions gets in. The next few months are going to be messy.

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        • LAVietImmigLaw says:

          Appeals court judges continually interrupting you is a normal thing during oral argument. You rarely get to finish making your points before you have to pivot. I knew that was the case as they constantly warned us even back in law school, moot court, etc. but still wasn’t quite ready for it when argued at my first 9th Circuit case. And that was only during a routine immigration case, not something of this magnitude.

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      • booger71 says:

        They bailed or quit the DOJ?

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  7. fedback says:

    Courts are now in charge of National Security, not the President

    Liked by 10 people

  8. Howie says:

    Suspend the rules and seat the new american justice now.

    Liked by 5 people

  9. Paco Loco says:

    This kind of miasma is indicative of a nation in decline. Let’s face it, the left doesn’t love the country. In fact they hate it along with all of the deplorable rubes that voted for Trump. They want Trumps government to fail. Witness what just went down in the Senate confirmation hearings and in this joke of a hearing. They truly are unAmerican and are no longer our countrymen.

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  10. AntonyG says:

    Appeasing the mad progressives. Why is it unconstitutional to ban members of a religion from outside of America? Any insane group/cult somewhere in the world could call themselves a religion, and become a major threat to Americans. What if the Nazi regime had started calling themselves a religion? ‘Can’t ban Nazis. It’s unconstitutional’.

    Islam is extremely collectivist, very political, incredibly religious and seriously backward. OMFG! A few centuries ago we had Muslims at the walls of Vienna, and I’m sure some progressive idiot back then was shouting from the blood soaked walls ‘we cannot ban them. Let them in!!!!’.

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  11. redsequin4 says:

    This was a total farce. Very disappointed in the inarticulate DOJ attorney. I know he was a fill in but still, isn’t there anyone in the DOJ who can argue a case in a coherent manner? Female Obama judge was hostile, stuck on Muslim ban and campaign speeches. Clifton, Bush appointee, was more reasonable. Did we hear from Judge Canby, who is 85?

    I’m sure ISIS is laughing their heads off at us while plotting to bring in more terrorists while this Kabuki theater plays out but what can you expect from the 9th, the most liberal Appeals Court in America. I’m disgusted. The TRO will stand and the case gets thrown back to Mr. Bow tie. BTW, TRO’s only last for 14 days.

    So the security of our country relies on whether Microsoft and Amazon have enough foreign workers to pay lower wages to?

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  12. Concerned says:

    When I read the DOJ’s filing, their argument is very clear. Some of their points attack the challenge to the travel ban itself, and a few attack the TRO. The oral arguments weren’t so great, do the justices read the filings in advance? Based on their questions I think they did.

    The DOJ’s argument that the TRO is overbroad seems like the best attack If the travel ban is put on hold because there’s some question of whether or not it’s Constitutional, it allows people with NO Constitutional rights, people in the 7 countries who have never been to the US before, to enter the US. Why should they be protected? At most, the DOJ says, the TRO should apply only to people who were residing in the plaintiff states who had traveled abroad and are trying to return. That seems reasonable. How many are in Washington? The Washington attorney couldn’t even say! How many people from the hot arid travel ban countries want to live in cold rainy Washington?

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    • Gil says:

      What i dont understand is, the 3 branches each have clearly defined powers and this is one of them. How is it then that these proceedings are even continued because they clearlybdo not have a constitutional authority to rule here and Trump does.

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      • Concerned says:

        It is proper for parties to challenge the constitutionality of executive orders and new laws and for the courts to determine if those challenges are valid. But Robart was sloppy. He slapped that TRO on the travel ban without any real justification, and he broadened it to cover ALL states, not just the two that sued.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      “The oral arguments weren’t so great, do the justices read the filings in advance? ”

      It’s their job to do so.

      Federal judge…when one thinks about it, I guess we actually pay their salaries. Food for thought.

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  13. Dale says:

    IMHO this is a separation of powers issue. The courts do not have the power to stop the President in this matter. Trump should ignore the court and the congress should back him up. All other arguments are irrelevant.

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  14. outerlimitsfan says:

    Was judge Canby comatose during the hearing? I only heard the other two I think. Since she is a Carter appointment, maybe she will remember that he did an Iranian travel ban.

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  15. james23 says:

    The story that the lead attorneys withdrew at the last minute stinks to High Heaven
    They took a dive, and left an unprepared subordinate in a very tough spot.
    Those two really need to be gone, pronto.

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  16. bertdilbert says:

    Look at it this way. Trump is going to win this at some point. Meanwhile if a terrorist comes in through the window that Washington state and the tech companies created, they will become civilly liable for the terrorist act to anyone harmed.

    They said they would be economically harmed and put this frivolous lawsuit out there to block Trump’s perfectly legal action. In other words, they put profits ahead of the safety of US citizens. Once somebody is harmed because of this, the lawyers are going to flip this and all the plaintiffs are going to become defendants in civil court.

    Did these companies really think about the downside?

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    • MaineCoon says:

      IMO they don’t care. They are playing the odds and in today’s world no one is ever held accountable.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Wookiebush says:

      I want my President to come out after the 9th Circuit upholds the TRO and forces this to the SC to come out and say “you know what will help get American’s jobs? Doing away with the entire H1B visa program. Current H1B visa holders have 30 days from today to vacate the US. If they do not, they WILL be escorted to the nearest border, even if that is not even their country. If the country that is closest does not want them, they can stay in the no mans zone between countries.”

      President Trump, part of this TRO/resistance is from big companies that use the H1B visa program to not hire Americans. Shut down the program and kick out the current holders. You have the express power to shut down the program. Teach the corps that are fighting you that “elections have consequences”.

      W.
      RAR!

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      • mike says:

        Name brand companies have used H1B to displace and fire American job holders en masse, who were then coerced to train their replacements.

        These companies should be heavily fined and banned from the H1B program if it survives. .

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  17. old_grouch says:

    Clifton’s back of the napkin numbers were 15% of Muslims affected in these 7 countries. Google says 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Populations of the 7 countries (mostly Muslim) about 212.8 million. About 13.3 %. The government should keep hammering that point, and make it clear that these 7 countries don’t have the systems and infrastructure in place to do accurate background checks.

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  18. Howie says:

    The oral arguments were not a hill of beans. These judges will not make a decision based on them. It was just a show. Pay no attention to it. They will read some of the briefs, part of the motions, and write their own opinion based upon not the law but how to twist the law to fit it to Social Justice.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Agree. Somewhere on this thread I gave highlights of the hearing. My final opinion…J. Candy was either sleeping or died on the bench during the hearing…no Court wants to be overrule so 9thC would send it back down to the District for further Discovery.

      I believe the 9thC will toss this hot potato back down.

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  19. ChicagoMom says:

    I think Judicial Watch filed an Amicus brief on this; I wonder if it will help?

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  20. Howie says:

    They are now in chambers having their clerks make up some stuff that sounds good while they hang out and laugh at the tv shows.

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  21. John Doe says:

    Turned on Anderson Cooper, whose head is exploding because all of his guest talking heads are saying President Trump and DOJ win this case. Lovin’ it!

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  22. outerlimitsfan says:

    I hope Kennedy eventually comes to the rescue. You never know with him. Granted, he actually wasn’t the idiot on the first Obamacare ruling. Everyone worried about him and then Roberts screwed us.

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  23. Howie says:

    Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me?

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  24. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Hey, something is going on right now on the Senate Floor. Hatch just called all the Senators in. It looks like a female Senator violated Senate rules and horribly attacked Sessions. Something is up. Turn on CSpan!

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  25. Trumped1 says:

    The genius of basing it on congress and Obamas admins take on the 7 nations might play out now.
    Still we need a broad discussion about the dangers of Islam.

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  26. outerlimitsfan says:

    Instead of any President visiting countries and talking with leaders,,we should just send Judge Robarts or any other far lefty judge. Since they are obviously experts on foreign policy and National security.

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  27. Bull Durham says:

    Declare Martial Law. Rule like a Tyrant. Fix the Country. Defeat ISIS.

    That’s a plan I like more each day.

    Liked by 4 people

  28. Howie says:

    So now the order was stayed and all the arabs are running around getting on planes the airlines are resetting the students and tourists are rescheduled, The H1b job stealers are on the way back to work….good grief. The terrorists are on the way….OK so the crackpots are going to stop the order and throw everything back in to utter looneyville even worse and make their fellow traveler judge and AG in to court jesters. Make their MSM buddies out to be the fools they are. Make the commiecrats look like the imbeciles they are. Sure they are. Bet the ranch on it. Watch out for falling cows on the way back from the moon.

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  29. janet says:

    Excellent news that you provide on daily basis, pres Trump must appoint really good and descent judges everywhere

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  30. james23 says:

    Wow, Laura Ingraham and Jay Sekulow are ripping the DOJ attorneys . Saying the argument was painfully bad. And saying the Admin should have brought in special counsel instead of going with career DOJ lawyers “whose heart wasn’t in it.”

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    • Oldschool says:

      Watched that too. I respect their perspective and opinions. Don’ t like it, but I think their analysis was on target.

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    • mollyp1776 says:

      Just watched that, on Hannity. PAINFUL dissection of the unprepared DOJ team. Ouch.

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      • soozword says:

        At least this gives an excuse (not that one is normally needed), for Pres. Trump to fire all the DOJ attorneys like some/most of his predecessors.

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        • Oldschool says:

          I see the bigger issue being his advisers who thought this was a good idea to issue this EO without any preparation for the backlash. That is very concerning.

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          • benifranlkin says:

            was predictable that some goofball judge would issue a TRO for the whole USA and it would stick?

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            • soozword says:

              Predicting this doesn’t seem so very outlandish given how utterly crazed the Left has become since his nomination leading up to the inauguration. You get these rather predictable results when you have Soros et al. throwing funding at SJWs with Trump Derangement Syndrome. I’m sure there are plenty of other goofball judges to pick from and he was just the first lucky pick.

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          • Agree with you, Oldschool. The Trump administration better learn their lesson from how this whole thing was botched from the very start and by everyone – and that includes the President on down. It’s clear they acted too swiftly under the best of intentions – I get that. But perhaps had they waited until Sessions was confirmed as AG and got to know all the players and got everything coordinated it could have been handled in a better fashion. Instead, they’re now on the defensive, they’ve shown their DOJ lawyers to be idiots (perhaps Obama appointees intent on sabotaging the proceedings?) at the least and ignorant at best, and everyone from the GOP elite and the mainstream media is going to be on the lookout for the next botched initiative to drop.

            Look, I’m huge supporter of the President and have been with him from the start, but politics and business are two very different things. I have no doubt that President Trump is smart enough not to let this kind of thing happen again, but it is disconcerting to see the momentum of the first two weeks broken. On one hand it’s understandable given the fact he doesn’t have hos whole cabinet in place thanks to the Dems, but on the other hand this ought to have been anticipated and an argument made to slow down until all hands were on deck.

            Everyone knows President Trump is operating inside a very small window where those in Congress whom he needs to help him get critical legislation passed will give him the benefit of the doubt. And, to be fully honest here, Trump’s administration is not the first to have made missteps in the earliest days. However, few, if any presidents have come into office with so many enemies working to have his administration fail, and it does President Trump no good to be helping them along with the kind of botched initiative that has taken place.

            Going forward, I would hope to see everyone in the Trump administration: the President, Reince, Kellyanne, Sean, and his cabinet be a heckuva lot more disciplined than they’ve shown over the past ten days. The old adage applies here: when you have to keep explaining yourself you’re doing something wrong. If they don’t they will squander whatever goodwill is out there, and to their disadvantage.

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      • benifranlkin says:

        Was there any comment on the written brief? Seemed good to me.

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    • Sandra says:

      I understand the complains about the DOJ attorney but he really did have a tough job. How do you prove to appeals court judges that a TRO is improper and must be removed? The TRO is only temporary, why should the appeals court remove it when Robart will be holding hearings in a few weeks to decide whether the travel ban is legal? Is that few week delay going to cause the US any harm? I think it was a long shot anyway, the attorney had an almost impossible task to perform.

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  31. Betty says:

    I heard the lawyer for Washington call the female judge Michelle and then caught himself. Nice to know they are on a first name basis.

    Liked by 5 people

    • MVW says:

      Exactly, courts are not the impartial institution their facade is made out to be. Courts are where chicanery is performed in robes (like the Catholic Church). There are good judges and there are the others.

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  32. Okay, so, bottom line. Has there been a ruling? Where do we go from here?

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  33. Root says:

    As Brit it was fascinating to hear the appeal. The US courts are very different from ours in the amount of pressure they put counsel under. By our standards the judges seemed almost hostile at least intellectually to both sides counsels. Counsel for the President also had the tricky task of challenging the standing of the plaintiff while simultaneously arguing on the merits. That is very difficult to do and more difficult in a telephone hearing than an open court. In an English Court that amount of interruption by the bench would probably be enough material to appeal. If anyone is interested our Supreme Court cases are broadcast live online. You can easily find them. I just add that in many ways I generally think the US legal system in some ways is better than ours. Primarily because in trials the definitions of fair trial are much more clearly defined and the US judge has less discretion.

    In the appeal we just heard on the TRO I thought both Counsel sounded a bit nervous too which to our ears was unusual. Anyway good luck with all this. Let us pray the Administration of your fine President prevails as they should and the snowflakes take a hit. Incidentally EU polls now show a majority of voters now want to stop Islamic migration entirely.

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    • Sandra says:

      Counsel for the President also had the tricky task of challenging the standing of the plaintiff while simultaneously arguing on the merits.

      You are so right. The plaintiffs attacked the travel ban in multiple ways, claiming financial harm, claiming that it violated the 1st Amendment, and more. The DOJ attorney had to prove that the temporary restraining order was improper, and to do that he had to do exactly what you stated. Very complicated in only 30 minutes, over the phone!

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  34. Laura Wesselmann says:

    Worth watching. But this will ultimately reach the Supreme Court. The ninth circuit is a liberal sewer.

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