January 10th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion Thread

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403 Responses to January 10th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion Thread

  1. carolmcd says:

    Ammunition for Trump: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-lee-is-ted-cruz-eligible-to-be-president-20160110-story.html

    Key paragraph: “Cruz himself purports to embrace originalism as the correct view of the Constitution. To be faithful to his understanding of what the Constitution means, the senator may have to disqualify himself.”

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    • Guess that makes Mark Levin a “living constitutionalist”

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    • Wow. The Dem’s are absolutely gleeful that the self-professed constitutional expert has a problem with constitutional eligibility. We look like fools for considering a Candian and not resolving this issue beforehand.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      I have been saying this for months that Cruz’s Canadian birth would be a problem. TOO What irks me the most is all the lies from Cruz on the issue, especially in regards to his dual citizenship! In 2013 when the media asked Cruz about his dual citizenship Cruz acted surprised and denied having dual citizenship or any knowledge of dual citizenship. Later the media showed Cruz proof so he said he would take care of it. At first I figured that really made Cruz look really ignorant for not knowing.
      However it seems that Cruz used to brag to his College buddies about his dual citizenship, asking if it would prevent him from being president. Looks like Cruz knew all along and has been playing a game with his supporters and America.
      If you all don’t realize it but it takes around two year or more s in courts to undo dual citizenship. Hell Cruz might still be a Canadian American. Who can trust Cruz on this issue anymore? Just think about it guys while Cruz was in the US senate he could have held a Canadian office too, H3LL he might still be able to hold a Canadian office.
      Understand this; no one is saying Cruz had a Canadian passport and everyone agrees that Cruz’s mother Eleanor Elizabeth (Darragh) Wilson was born in America.
      The question now is the clear clarification of the Native Born Law which only SCOTUS can do. Does one have to be born on US soil like the Obama people were using when fighting to prove Obama was born in Hawaii and not Kenya?
      For every Constitutional expert that says Cruz is eligible, there are just as many Constitutional experts that say Cruz is not eligible. The ones that say that Cruz is ineligible say he has to be born on US soil.
      Cruz should have cleared all this up long ago including his dual citizenship. With less than 10 months until the general election it’s a bit late for Cruz to be playing with SCOTUS for a clarification of the Native born law.

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      • USA Patriot says:

        Cruz in general is not a truthful man yet our conservative media friends continue to go to bat for him — WHY????

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      • truthandjustice says:

        Yes, agree with you and USA Patriot. He can easily be proven NOT to be a “consistent Conservative”. He has a long list of flip flopping votes on important issues plus all his donors are Neocon Globalists. Good grief. How much does it take? And I say that as a “very” social Conservative Christian (and Texan). It’s just facts that must be faced. This whole natural born thing is also full of suspicions. His records are sealed. Just as you say, he has long known about his dual citizenship but when asked in 2013 when running for Senator, he acted (note “acted”) surprised saying he didn’t know that. What??? How could you not know that anyway if you are running for these high offices and wanted to since his youth? It’s ridiculous. I also blame the Tea Party about their suspicious “vetting”. Something is fishy there as well.
        It’s also interesting to know he was the President of the Drama Club in school……….

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        • kinthenorthwest says:

          Its too late for SCOTUS. If Cruz is earnest he would step down support Trump.
          Then he should get SCOTUS to clarify the law. If law is clarified in Cruz’s favor then he should run. This is not the time to run with issues like this. Our country has too much to lose.

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      • countrychicken says:

        kinthennorthwest….who has standing to take it to SCOTUS? The candidates? I know “we the people” don’t because it was tried in 2008 and we lost. If it is the candidates, then who among them would topple the apple cart?


        • kinthenorthwest says:

          The law needs to be totally clarified.
          If it had been proven that Obama had been not been born on US soil bu born in Kenya then Obama would have been ineligible.
          Now it seems that the Cruz people are saying that as long as someone has one American parent they can be born anyplace in world and be president.
          Now I don’t trust Cruz at all and feel he is trying to twist our constitution.

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        • Black Beauty says:

          Oddly, common sense would tell you that we, the people SHOULD have standing, as we have certainly suffered directly from the rule of Obama. This standing thing is just a way to preventing people who are harmed from having recourse.

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  2. Doodahdaze says:

    Hey Hey
    Ho Ho
    The Status Quo
    Has got to go

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  3. Doodahdaze says:

    I am calling for mandatory birth control and outlaw abortions. Birth control is state of the art now. Mandate it. Round em up and force birth control. That way planned parenthood will work. No welfare without it.

    Liked by 2 people

    • don welch says:

      if we gave them birth control for free.. FREE! what would the reason be for abortion?

      Liked by 1 person

      • joanfoster says:

        I have always believe in sterilization after the second illegitimate child and if violated, no more welfare. Try talking those points with a liberal and all you get is “you don’t have the right to decide whether people have children or not”. Well, indeed I do when they are being supported by my tax dollars from cradle to the grave.

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      • TPW says:

        everyone is suppose to have obamacare……..no need for planned parenthood


      • auscitizenmom says:

        My friend worked for social services since 1968 and she said they could have birth control for free since then. They just didn’t bother to use it.

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  4. Dora says:

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    • KitKat says:

      Trump is prescient. He saw long before Cruz did that no one could win Iowa without supporting ethanol. That led to Ted having to flip-flop. Trump also saw that the NBC question was going to cause problems for Cruz and suggested a simple solution. Problem for Cruz is if he follows Trump’s solution, Cruz looks like a loser and Trump looks like a leader.

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  5. Dora says:

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    • KitKat says:

      Ouch for Cruz. They are getting their revenge, and Trump doesn’t have do to anything but look helpful from the sidelines. There must be blood coming out of Mark Levin’s ears and eyes and whatevers.

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      Was wondering when the MSM would get around to asking the Turtle. Besides the fact Cruz is HATED for being a grandstander, his circumstances aren’t anywhere near the same as McCains. For those cleaving to Vattel, like myself, it did cause discomfort regarding McCain’s eligibility, but on balance, I was OK with him: 2 US citizen parents, in the service of the US government, stationed in a US Territory.

      Cruz: 1 US citizen parent, questions as to that parents status at time of Cruz’s birth, born in foreign country. There is NO WAY I can consider him a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ per my understanding of the Constitution, Vattel, and intent…

      Not a ‘hater’ or whatever else some might say. I’ve been concerned about a Cruz run prior to his announcement, others have been, too.

      He and Levin’s ‘nothing to see, move along’ is horrible. It belittles those worried about a legitimate issue, and show both men to be above Constitutional limitations. Which is doubly worse as both claim to be originalists.


  6. Rubio’s eligibility needs to be questioned as well. Natural Born does not mean that you are born on US soil to two parents that became citizens later after birth.

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  7. Trump interviews & highlights today Sun 1-10-16:
    Meet the Press with Chuck Todd
    FOX News with Chris Wallace
    Fox Business with Maria Bartilomo
    and another Trump Rally! Trump Rally in Reno Nevada 1pm (PST)

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  8. judyw says:

    Can’t you just hear Trump expounding on this! His most recognized skill “You’re Fired!” will play well in cleaning up this “mess” of a department of the U. S. Government.

    Two top administrators at the Department of Veterans’ Affairs health system in Phoenix, Arizona, who were suspended following revelations of fake wait lists and delayed patient care will return to agency jobs Monday.

    Robinson and Curry were placed on paid leave and given termination notices in May 2014. During their suspensions, they have been given hundreds of thousands of dollars in pay and benefits.

    Both administrators were the subject of VA inquiries and hearings, which have been subject to delays and yielded contradictory findings.

    An internal probe reported by the Washington Post concluded that Robinson retaliated against a whistle blower who reported mismanagement and poor care at the Phoenix hospital.

    A veterans group described the latest development as further evidence that the VA under Secretary Robert McDonald is not serious about holding employees accountable for misconduct.

    “By allowing Robinson and Curry to return to work despite their intimate involvement in the wait list scandal that likely cost dozens of veterans their lives–and Robinson’s documented retaliation against whistle blowers–VA leaders are letting the American people know that their priority is protecting corrupt government bureaucrats instead of seeking to better serve our veterans,” Concerned Veterans for America legislative and political director Dan Caldwell said in a statement Friday.

    “If Secretary McDonald and the top leadership at the VA do not have the courage, or competence, to properly fire employees like Curry and Robinson who engage in misconduct that puts lives at risk, then they have no business managing an agency that millions of veterans rely on for their critical health care needs. The stakes for our veterans are simply too high.”


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  9. don welch says:

    looks like no speech today, not that he doesn’t deserve a day of rest. bet that makes jeb, hillary and obama happy campers lol.


  10. Regina says:

    Reno 1pm

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  11. Regina says:

    Is it my imagination, or did the Fox makeup “artist” do a Really bad job on our man???
    looks like they used Angelina’s hi-def powder – jeez, no end to the manipulation


  12. judyw says:

    Lame Cherry nails it!
    The cartel is the driving force behind all of this, because they desire to put a complete foreign agent in control of America, by this Obama degradation of law. They intend to sully the Presidency in both parties….
    Read more:

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  13. TheTorch says:

    Donald Trump Rally in Reno, Nevada
    at the Reno Events Center
    Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:00 PM (PT), 4:00 PM (ET)

    YouTube (Right Side Broadcasting)

    YouTube (News Universe)

    YouTube (Live Broadcasting)

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  14. Trent Telenko says:

    It would be very nice to see a Trump comment on Twitter’s unverify of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    Simply asking outloud ion Twitter when Twitter was going to unverfy Trump for politically incorrect speach would do it..

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  15. Sanj says:

    I just posted this on the wrong thread. You can check this, but because Trump was on Fox Sunday, Chris Wallace, during the panel discussion, never asked George Will about Trump. Will looks close to splodey head especially after Trump said he’d look stupid if he didn’t wear those tiny spectacles yesterday. Trump kneecapped George Will and has taken at least 3 kill shots against others this week. God I love this stuff!!!

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  16. gellieba says:

    CRUZ IS NOT ELIGIBLE. The Founders wanted to be sure that a candidate should not have any legal connection to a foreign country. Therefore to be eligible a candidate must be a Natural Born Citizen which by definition excludes candidate having current or past DUAL CITIZENSHIP.

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  17. “5 ways Donald Trump is driving Hillary Clinton crazy”
    Beating up Bill, dominating the press, and certainly having more fun, By Glenn Thrush, 01/08/16

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-217486#ixzz3ws5ZjZ56

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  18. Bobbi D says:

    I don’t know if it’s just me, or what, but I have noticed the past month and it seems to be getting worse, how the media is writing more negative articles on Trump, questionable, and yet they are hitting up Bush, Cruz and Rubio and even Kasich….maybe it’s the sites I go to like FR….it’s very upsetting to me…like today: “Bob Beckel is going to London to see love letters Trump wrote to Diana after her divorce”….things like that…what’s with all of this?


    • It’s part of campaign warfare, try not to look at the fiery arrows, Trump’s shielded well and most if not all of them won’t hit him anyway. A lot of wickedness coming against Trump from every side imaginable.

      But a lot of LOVE is with Trump too. In the hearts of the people. Who WILL go to the polls and make their voice heard.

      We must remember to keep praying for Trump and his family every day.

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      • singtune says:

        Right Monique~~The NWO Plan IS Working in EUROPE~~ in the “EU” as we all can SEE very Clearly~! They Do NOT want to LOOSE their GRIP on the U.S.A.~! But ~~”TRUMP” & with “Support” from the “AMERICAN People” CAN get Rid of the NWO~~! it will take a Massive Effort from us~~ But “GAME ON”~! Right????? I am an old Lady, but I am ready {I will help}, & So will the MAJORITY of Others in this Country~!

        TRUMP ~~IS~~~~our 1 & Only Opportunity to~~ “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN”~~


    • judyw says:

      “what’s with all of this?” I’d say desperation requiring more opposition research. What they have so far has only driven up Trump’s poll #’s! 🙂

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  19. NHVoter says:

    Heads up, Treepers. This sounds like yet another media attempt to brand Trump & those of us who support him as racist.

    Liked by 1 person

    • R-C says:

      So–attending a Trump rally now makes one an ISIS operative, huh? A wee bit over the top…

      Kinda like the vile garbage being thrown at those of us who go to Breitbart to do battle with the Cruz forces there. We get tarred with every name in the book; the Cruzians seething with rage that we would dare to have a differing opinion than their own.

      If you’re not for Cruz, you’re a ‘democrat’; a ‘loser’; a ‘psycho’; a ‘nut-job’, etc, etc, etc–and now, inexplicably, an ‘ISIS operative’. You can’t make this stuff up.

      As I told one of them this morning, they are operating from a position of overheated emotion, rather than seeing this as the chance to select the perfect applicant to actually fill the requirements of the job in question.

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    • Regina says:

      LOL he works for cbs news – I’m sure it was a joke (if it happened at all)

      Liked by 1 person

      • LOL! A Trump supporter succumbed to the urge to diss the media to their face – I love it!

        I despise the MSM – I would have loved to have gotten into the side of that conversation and needled the heck out of Mr. Media, although I would have been much more Wattersish about it. The dude is dang near a fellow-traveler – check out his resume. MSM narrative-tard deluxe, and he’s worked for more traitorous outfits than just CBS.


        So where are you from? What do you think about Trump? What’s the real scoop on Ben Rhodes and his bro? You think he helped get Sharyl’s laptop? C’mon – what do you REALLY think? WINK, WINK….


    • John Galt says:

      Sopan is a known liar.


  20. be says:

    Political correctness definition from the truman library:

    Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of sxxt by the clean end!

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  21. kinthenorthwest says:

    This lady was a big huge Muslim plant, but the wrong lady to use.

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  22. Bluto says:

    Happy Times here at Bluto’s Ranch & Mountain. Family in for a visit last week and what was all the talk about the first day? Trump’s Christmas Cards!!! Mom was so happy to see that Trump sent Christmas cards to us…..and two of them! One for Mrs. Bluto too! (We both took the time to send our own donations a few months ago). Mrs. Bluto refuses to open hers, and is saving it for posterity. Mom exclaims, “It might be worth something someday!” Oh dear. Too much Fun!

    I have no doubt about it, Trump is in this to win it. Seeing the reaction to just a little thing like a Christmas card from him AND the fact it actually uses the word “Christmas” was quite interesting to me. It’s like Trump is manufacturing enthusiasm & excitement out of thin air. He’s brilliant…and FUN!

    And what continuing thread of conversation weaved it’s way thru our visit over the days? Trump. Then I sat back and envisioned the same thing happening all over the country. Families gathering together and sharing their Trump Christmas Card, like a trophy, with each other. And the ones who didn’t get a card are all a bit envious, and curious as to how they came to get a card from The Donald. So much fun!!! I love him! He’s smart, a furious hard worker, AND he’s FUN. How in the world can ya beat that??? 😀 😀

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  23. Martin says:

    Since we’re on the topic of natural born citizen being one of the requirements for president or VP, I hope Trump knows that his three oldest children wouldn’t qualify because their mother didn’t become a U.S. until 1988 well after they were born. I know Trump’s fourth oldest, Tiffany Trump, is a natural born citizen because her mother was born in Georgia. I’m not sure about his youngest one, Barron. He was born the same year Melania became a U.S. citizen (2006), but I don’t know if she became a U.S. citizen before or after he was born. If he was born before she became naturalized, then Trump would only have one kid who is a natural born citizen.


  24. RINOKiller says:


    CNN continues with the false narrative with the polls; claiming the polls in Iowa are “nearly tied”


  25. Sanj says:

    Doesn’t matter what the Iowa polls say now, it’s going to be about turnout and one of the last things Trump said on one of the Sunday shows was, “I can’t wait until Feb 1st” He’s locked and loaded!

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  26. Ted today in a interview will not be deporting illegals he needs to understand what ICE is.


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  27. TwoLaine says:

    He’s Hired!

    Liked by 2 people

  28. TwoLaine says:

    Trump’s Iowa Co-Chair Tana Goertz: the political novice who could beat political “experts”
    by Voltova Dmitri
    January 10, 2016



  29. carolmcd says:

    Rand Paul gave Trump a gift today on Face the Nation. Rand Paul and his dad are considered Constitutional experts. I would think that would mean something in Iowa.

    Rand questioned whether Cruz was eligible to run for president and said the Supreme Court should decide the issue. Rand said that it would be “extraordinary” for a president to be born outside the United States. He said, if Cruz were to win, it would be the first time. I think a lot of people assume the early presidents were born in England. This is not the case.

    I personally think Rand Paul would balance out Trump nicely as a VP pick. Of course, I love Ron Paul, but Rand may be improving.


    • Paul – “The thing is, I think all experts agree that he was naturally born in Canada, and so the legal question is: can you be naturally born in Canada and also be considered a natural-born American citizen, and it hasn’t been decided.”

      Exactly how I see it.

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  30. Donald J. Trump
    17 mins ·

    I am pleased to announce that I had the Union Leader removed from the upcoming debate. If their highly unethical behavior, including continually begging me for ads, isn’t questionable enough, they have endorsed a candidate who can’t win. This is really unfair and a conflict for all the other candidates. I said it should not be allowed and ABC agreed. To top it off, the paper has lost all credibility under publisher Joe McQuaid, with it’s circulation dropping to record lows. They are not worthy of representing the great people New Hampshire. – Donald J. Trump

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  31. Donald Joy says:

    This is a SCREAM!

    WTH? Hillary’s latest ad literally says she’s the only one who can stop Republicans FROM BOMBING ISIS:



  32. Sanj says:

    “I have a PhD in litigation and Cruz brings uncertainty” Trump Reno. Good luck fighting that line, Maple Syrup Cruz

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    • Blue Fugu says:

      The interview with Phyllis Schafly on BB should be mandatory reading for everybody interested in this election. She shows, again, why she is the “Grand Dame” of conservatism. Great read.

      Liked by 1 person

  33. Does anyone think trump will allow himself to be moderated by megyn kelly before the Iowa caucus? I hope he drops that debate or get her expelled! Because of her hatred towards him which can be conflicts of interest!

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    • TheTorch says:

      Yes I tend to agree with this – at the very least she should be replaced as a moderator. Her constant anti-trump attacks should rule her out. Trump knows best, but I would make it a precondition for that debate that she is replaced.

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  34. JSBachLover says:

    I’ve been a lurker here for quite a while; have become addicted, I think! This is my first post because I normally enter the Treehouse via my Kindle every evening, but the Kindle keyboard makes typing more than a sentence or two difficult. Desktop computer to the rescue.

    I want to respond to comments I read here last night re: Cruz’s parents being on a voter list in Canada. (I’m no Cruz fan; Trump all the way: just want to clarify this for accurate information.) I lived in Ontario for 15 years beginning in 1975, around the same era when Cruz’s
    parents were in Canada. The way those “voter lists” worked was this: “Enumerators” — somewhat like U.S. Census workers — would go, on behalf of the Canadian federal government, through essentially every neighborhood in every province to make sure people were signed up to vote if they were citizens. The enumerator knocked on your door and came with a prepared list containing the names of all the residents of every house on that street/in that neighborhood that the government knew of. Not everybody at each address on the lists were citizens; the lists were compiled, first of all, consisting of known residents at that given address. The enumerator would find out then if his/her list was correct, who actually lived there, and he/she was supposed to ask whether each resident was a citizen or not. If so, you were then marked eligible to vote. In my experience in Ontario, they always did ask that question. I recall thinking, in fact, the first time I answered the door when an enumerator came, “It would be easy to lie about whether you’re a citizen” if you wanted to vote and weren’t a citizen. It momentarily crossed my mind that I could have told the person I was a Canadian so I could have voted in local and provincial elections. I wouldn’t have done that, of course, and very few people at the time would have. It just wasn’t something decent people did. Anyway, what I’m saying is: the fact that Cruz’s parents were on an enumerator’s list for voting isn’t proof that they(or his mother) had taken Canadian citizenship. It should also be noted that applying for citizenship required a minimum of five year’s residence in Canada.


  35. TheTorch says:

    Exclusive–Phyllis Schlafly Makes the Case for President Trump: ‘Only Hope to Defeat the Kingmakers’

    “At this crucial point in American history, will we send in our bat boy? Or will we send in our Babe
    Ruth—a man who is not afraid or forbidden to take a good cut at all major issues of the day?”

    Fantastic stuff! – well worth a read🙂


  36. kinthenorthwest says:

    Very Good Article.
    Trump Was RIGHT: Look Who Wants To BAN Muslim Immigration NOW… Liberals Are FURIOUS


  37. kinthenorthwest says:

    Donald Trump’s Mass. Headquarters Spray Painted With Vulgar Graffiti
    January 9, 2016 3:04 PM


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