Political Discomfort…

patriotIt is odd how people can understand the media fraudulently influencing public opinion regarding racial stories (Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, McKinney Pool Party, Eric Sheppard Jr, et al), yet become willfully blind when those same MSM methods are deployed within current political stories.

If you were to look back through the entire library of The Conservative Treehouse you might note the origin of our association is researching raw information and raw data to understand what the media is not revealing. Then we converse about it.

Finding the truth beyond the headlines is actually the origin of our Tree House association.  Accepting what results from the discovery is why this is The Last Refuge.

Regardless of whether large numbers of people are reading or participating our conversation continues, because understanding the truth behind events is not something to fear.  Regardless of how uncomfortable discovered truth becomes, it is actually quite empowering to accept it.

The days when people needed to passively accept narratives sold by the media is gone. The time when information is exclusively delivered by those who hold a vested interest is long past.  The advent of the internet (as a communication tool) has made almost immediate information available, often from the source of the story itself.

With the ability of any individual to engage in their own research and learning – those who hold a vested interest to keep control over various aspects have less control of the data.  As a consequence they also lose control over public perceptions of their endeavors – good and bad.

From this perspective it is entirely possible to see how powerful media interests are subject to diminishment. As a consequence those same power-interests adapted additional methods of information control – control over the information platform.

Matt Drudge recently discussed this new yet looming reality with Alex Jones. Information agents beyond the Main Stream Media, like Twitter, FaceBook, and social media platforms have developed their own filters to control content much like the editorial board of the New York Times.

Political interests who also rely on control understood the value in synergy/alignment with platform control agents. Hence you see the President of the U.S. in communication with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg.

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This modern agenda driven association -within social media- was most recently evident in the fall of 2009 as the political apparatus within the U.S. body politic worked to engage the Facebook data platform during the “Arab spring”.

As a direct consequence those who understand the editorial filtration advocate for staying away from host platforms under the control of those who have a vested interest in the content.  Hence, Matt Drudge saying he will not participate on their platforms because the information activity is not raw, pure or without agenda.

Many CTH readers may note how brutally, and very intentionally, flawed the chosen MSM narrative to the Trayvon Martin shooting was. The same thing occurred again within the Mike Brown shooting; the MSM with a specific narrative to sell, regardless of factual evidence.

However, this pattern of narrative control continues in all things well beyond racial angles to crime and sociology.  Indeed, many other issues are far more consequential, and as such subject to even more control efforts by those who retain a vested interest.

The Conservative Treehouse was formed specifically as a refuge away from these manipulated narratives. Here the real issues, the raw data behind the headlines, could be discovered and discussed without concern for discomfort.

Unfortunately there are those adversely impacted by such sunlight.  Raw information results in a loss of their grip on power and as a consequence diminishes their control. However, if you were to look historically you’ll find that none of the resulting issues are unpredictable.

Back in the fall of 2013 it was the acceptance of political reality that led us to discuss how Mitch McConnell would never reverse any of the White House policies even if the Republicans gained control of the Senate.

It was accepting a political reality two years ago that brought us to share if we didn’t stop going where we’re going we were going to end up getting where we are.

Thirteen months later the Republicans did get control of the Senate; and as predicted none of the White House policies were substantially challenged.

Understanding how U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue, interacted with republican leadership in the course of those 13 months allowed anyone to accept the outcome as predictable.  Perhaps it was too painful to accept, but it did not change the reality.

And now here we are.

So too is the reality of the 2016 presidential primary race and the inherent actions by those with a vested interest.  The actions taken by many of the interests are not unpredictable, many of them are transparent in the extreme….

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….However, seeing the transparency does require the observer to carry a willingness to accept a natural discomfort – and not deploy defensive avoidance.

Not this time.

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147 Responses to Political Discomfort…

  1. Missbonbon says:

    Very timely article!

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    • Springstreet says:

      The (lack of) truth behind our headlines has its foundations in Watergate … where the MSN agenda began triumphing over reasonable thought. For example: The “Bungling Burglars” were said to be hired to disrupt a Daniel Ellsburg Anti-War demonstration … held on the Capitol steps next to where after J. Edgar Hoover’s body was to be ceremoniously viewed. And, that’s a very good story… except … the FBI’s later investigations documented that the “Bunglers” mobilized BEFORE the healthy head of the FBI “suddenly” died.
      So … did anyone (Hillary) ever stop to think that these CIA recruits might have had a different agenda (assassination) … or were we led to believe Bob Woodward’s silly break-in headlines?

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      • rashamon says:

        Ah, I think you could go back many more decades. What’s a shame is that we haven’t smartened up over generations of this malarkey from our esteemed propagandists, who were later proven to be just that — propagandists.

        As for Hillary, there are no words.

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    • truthandjustice says:

      Great article by Kelleigh Nelson – who seems to be a CTH fan – gives this site as referral also —

      “Wake up, it’s our last chance to save America. Please, make this article to go VIRAL.
      .. the next step is the Great Merger of all nations of the world into a dictatorial world government. … The Insiders’ code word for the world superstate is “new world order,”

      Just why does the GOP hate Donald Trump? That’s easy to answer, because he’s thrown a monkey-wrench into the plans of the New World Order

      The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. They are lacking in negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. .. there is a massive void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity than people may think.
      Trump is a man unlike the rest of the GOP candidates. He gives to people unconditionally, and he doesn’t talk about it, nor does the news media, who should.
      (i.e.).. the California family with the three year old child, Andrew Ten, who needed to get to a doctor in New York? The regular airlines wouldn’t fly the child because he needed oxygen..to make the trip. The family called Trump, and the Donald sent his private plane to California for that family and took them to the New York physicians.
      Donald Trump quietly helped out Marine Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi, who was left to rot in a Mexican prison .. the “money” Trump sent Tahmoreesi was “very substantial,” and included paying all of the family’s legal bills, financial needs while he was held prisoner for nearly a year, and cash to get him back on his feet.
      This next story was verified by Mr. Trump on his show,.
      (another)… his limo had a flat tire on the New Jersey highway, and an elderly couple stopped to help. Donald asked what he could do for the man who helped them, and he said, “Send my wife a bouquet.” The man had handed Donald his card.. Trump sent a beautiful bouquet, but also paid off their mortgage. This is the one story I cannot verify, but Mr. Trump claimed it was true.

      The poll that placed Trump in second place in Iowa was a fake, paid for by the notorious Club For Growth Action (CFG) and differs from the NBC News/WSJ/Marist poll over the weekend that has Trump in first place in Iowa by five points.
      Remember that CFG asked for a million dollar donation from Trump, and he refused. From that point on, CFG was after Trump. CFG’s partners and allies include the Peter G. Peterson Foundation. Peterson is chairman emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations and former chairman of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Another ally is the US Chamber of Commerce, who is so behind the invasion of illegal aliens on our southern borders.
      CFG has spent a million dollars on anti-Trump ads in Iowa claiming Trump loves eminent domain and takes peoples’ property for his own use. ..facts are .. In 1986 Trump helped save Annabel Hill’s farm that had been in the family for five generations. “We give a lot of money to foreign countries that don’t give a damn about us, but we don’t help the American farmers,” Trump said.

      http://newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh252.htm

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  2. Amen, bro! And this is why we love CTH.

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  3. Made in USA says:

    The “Elephant” is larger than the R(h)ino and the “tusked one” NEVER forgets, we shall crush our oppressors including the dimwitted but diabolical “Donkeys”.

    Vote Trump!

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  4. JRD says:

    Wonderful post, sundance!

    Liked by 5 people

  5. rsmith1776 says:

    Time again – especially with increased traffic – for some of those “secret” TCTH entrees…. only for those of us who know the secret password ( :

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  6. regedit says:

    I take simple approach-default MSM position or any information is a LIE
    Thats the start and the end

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  7. JBird says:

    Excellent Sir! Hopefully the Trumpbots will consider your very wise words.

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    • wanthetruth says:

      What a silly thought that there are “Trumpbots” here. We are for the return to an America from a Constitutional perspective.

      We are for Trump because he’s the one who is offering the best chance for us to realize that goal. There is no Trumpbotism about it.

      It’s all about The United States of America first! No NWO! No NAU! No “let’s make America Mexico again.

      We want our One Nation back – USA!

      He is willing and he is able – that’s why Trump’s our man.

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    • Made in USA says:

      JBird,

      Must be short for “jailbird”, did you spend any time in a holding cell next to Yeb’s drug addict daughter or that illiterate, non-English-speaking (despite 30+ yrs in USA) pygmy and jewelry smuggling wife?

      BTW: We’re Trumpeteers, if you can’t hear us we’ll move a bit closer and place the bells of our horns up against your ears.

      Now go pick up your candidate’s (Yeb’s), wife, I hear she sold all the tamales and bags or oranges she had on her cart.

      Help Make America Great Again

      Vote Donald J. Trump!

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      • Made in USA says:

        Hey moderators help a guy out, correct my spelling error above.i t should read “…….she sold all the tamales and bags of oranges on her cart” instead of “all the tamales and bags or oranges she had on her cart”

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        • Sharon says:

          I’m a moderator and the only thought I have for “helping you out” is to delete your entire comment since we don’t routinely encourage or tolerate pointless personal attacks on family members of public figures. Yes, I know they happen. We just don’t get them all.

          Does Mrs. Bush actually sell fruit, etc. from a cart?

          Link, please.

          I can never figure out if those who say they admire the CTH for our efforts to maintain civilized conversation are just imagining it. It appears that we are being given far too much credit along those lines.

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          • jello333 says:

            Thanks Sharon. I wanted to say more to him/her but thought better of it…

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          • Curry Worsham says:

            In this instance, a good response is better than a delete.

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          • Made in USA says:

            That’s right go ahead and act like a Stalinista (Liberal) and delete my comment. You people wonder why we lose elections, it’s because of gutless politically correct website owners and their equally weak forum moderators. Unlike Trump and his supporters like me, the aforementioned who believe they are my/our/your “betters” are more concerned with “appearances”, it’s quite clear they don’t have the stones for the fight. And yeah I’ve been here since the beginning, I saw how many regulars were banned from posting for making so-called “offensive” posts when the Trayvon Martin info was being revealed here, that cost this site a lot of hits.

            So CTH thinks they’ll have an impact and help put a true “Conservative” in The White House? I got news for you, we WILL lose if we’re entering the ring with one hand tied behind our backs. So go ahead follow the rules set by “polite society” ie. Liberals, the same rules they refuse to abide by and I’ll carry on being as rude and insulting as I can be just like Trump and if we do lose at least I’ll know I gave it my all and went down fighting unlike you.

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            • jello333 says:

              So now the Treehouse is a politically correct site? Wow. And even more bizarre, you actually believe that Trump would approve of some of what you said in that other comment? SMH…

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              • Made in USA says:

                Grow a pair or get thrown off the Trump Train. Anyone who hits “The Donald” is gonna (sic) get stomped and I didn’t earn my red-laces standing on the sidelines. We want “fighters” if you don’t have what it takes or aren’t willing to get bloodied go campaign for Lisping Lindsey or Jalapa Jeb

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                • stella says:

                  Every American, regardless of their national origin ( and we ALL have one, unless you are a native American), deserves equal treatment and respect based on their own behavior and treatment of their fellow Americans.

                  To say that somebody has no guts or is politically correct because they don’t agree with your point of view, or choose to express themselves in the same way that you do says a great deal about you, and very little about them.

                  Your thinking is not in line with what we believe here at CTH, and we don’t identify with remarks such as those that you made in your previous comment. We have a message to get out, and such remarks cloud our message. Feel free to express yourself elsewhere or at home in any way you find comfy. This is our home, and we WILL determine what is, and is not, said here.

                  If you had your own website, and Sharon and jello333 expressed how they feel on your website, would you remain silent, or would you say what you think about their comments? Since you did it here, the answer is obvious.

                  P.S.: I suspect “The Donald” thinks more like we do than the way you do. After all, he likes Diamond & Silk, doesn’t he?

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      • jello333 says:

        Umm… really? Not sure Donald would appreciate that kind of “help”.

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        • Tonawanda says:

          Funny how my support for Trump has made me more careful about being respectful and reasonable (but no less passionate!) when discussing Trump related issues on the net.

          We can poke fun and be acerbic about the candidates, but the cause is not advanced by making Trump supporters look hateful and thoughtless.

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          • Judgy says:

            Tell it!! That was perfect! And we are NOT “against Latinos”! We are against having ILLEGAL ALIENS (yes, many do happen to be Latino–but they can be Asian, black, or white as well; like illegal Irish!) receive Special Treatment (cutting in line, amnesty, etc).

            And we are against those who would seek to HELP PASS Amnesty, etc. because that ultimately HURTS us, the tax-paying citizens.

            Oranges & tamales have nothing to do w/ it, & are both quite delicious.

            Columba isn’t my fave b/c she seems elitist & dishonest–there’s no need to MAKE UP STUFF about her–esp. when she’s merely the wife. SHE’S not the issue anyway (might be perfectly nice in person; I don’t know). Jeb, and the people behind him are the REAL problem we’re objecting to!

            Lastly, we NEVER KNOW who might be trolling this site. The last thing we want to do is live up to the Left’s “idea” of a stereotypical, bigoted, “hateful” Trump supporter–that’s completely unhelpful! (Being snarky CAN be fun, but no need to be CRUEL–esp. when we need to make Mr. Trump look GOOD!). There are MANY GENUINELY HILARIOUS writers who post here–without being one bit cruel, or “racist”. “The Left” might actually be SURPRISED! So we should try to hold to that–thanks, Sharon! (I sometimes need de-snark reminding too. Lately, I try to think as if I were ALREADY a volunteer working for Trump’s campaign. We want–and need–him to WIN!!!!).

            So, maybe don’t post anything that you wouldn’t post if you were a public face, working on Mr. Trump’s staff–none of us would EVER want to disappoint HIM, right?? I think it’s a good rule to go by.

            Us Trumpeteers can be lovers AND fighters! We have no need to be “MEAN”.

            Thanks all!

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            • MsCynlynn says:

              You are so right. There is more meat to an argument when the facts are stated and the other candidates is shown to be untruthful or just plain stupid.

              Family is off limits unless it’s a factual statement, such as, Jeb’s wife is Mexican. Fact, no attack, nothing wrong with her being Mexican.

              I did find it funny when Trump pointed that out and Jeb said his wife was attacked by Trump. Then that whole “apologize to my wife” bit. That was big eye opener for me about Jeb. I wanted to stand him in the corner.

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            • Anubis says:

              The left sees no difference in importing low IQ people that will vote for more free stuff by legal or illegal means. Disney’s forcing people to train their replacement H1bs is even more desirable to the left than just more welfare seekers. The 1965 democrat change to immigration policy was designed to import people from low IQ low trust societies, because leftists don’t breed enough to have a majority otherwise..

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            • CoffeeBreak says:

              🙂 Really great comment. Thank you.

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      • MTeresa says:

        Ugly ugly ugly post. No need to be so uncivil. We can disagree with Mr. Bush and his ilk, but there is no need to start a rant like that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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      • JillyW says:

        Are you actually for Trump or a rat plant?

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    • chili palmer says:

      Rush Limbaugh calls us ‘Trumpsters.’ If you must label us, that’s the one.

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    • MsCynlynn says:

      As I stated in another thread, your use of “Trumpbots” is rude. We are not robots; we think for ourselves. The majority are for Trump here but we do have posters who back other candidates comment. The only attacks I’ve seen by Trump supporters against others are by posters I don’t recognize and they are called out by other posters or the moderators.

      So, please be nice and don’t name call. If you have information that you think would make us change our minds about who we support please share. Remember though, we have already looked at all of the issues from Trump’s past and understand that a huge business is ran differently than a country but the needed skills to run both are the same. We also understand that the President must work with Congress and foreign leaders. This is where negotiation and collaboration, the understanding of monetary policy and markets come into play. Add to that the understanding of geopolitics and current world events and we have ourselves a good leader.

      Look through many of the threads here and the majority who post here will also call Mr. Trump out for something he said or did. We aren’t blind followers and we look at the candidates skills, abilities and records. We do NOT idolize him like many did Obama. We know Trump is a flawed human like all of us.

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    • Ahem. You misspelled Trumpeteer.

      Bots are programmed. Treepers write their own code.

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  8. JoeS says:

    Deep Sundance!

    I just saw a re-run of Megan Kelly interviewing Chris Stirewalt on the new poll that has Carson leading Trump. She made the point that the recent IBD poll had Trump up and the NBC/WSJ poll had Carson up. Fox put the details of both polls on the screen. She asked Chris S to opine, and he touted how reliable and also predictive the NBC/WSJ poll was in the past. He also mentioned that he felt the Quinipiac was a very reliable poll.

    Well, speaking of media narratives. It is surprising that he would give greater credence to the NBC/WSJ poll when the most recent state polls show a strong trend for Donald Trump. Don’t the state polls serve to reinforce the accuracy of the IBD polls or tend to contradict the NBC/WSJ polls? It would seem that an honest journalist or even a smart non-journalist commentator would also add that the various state polls showing Trump strength came out after BOTH the IBD (and after the debate) and the NBC/WSJ polls showing a potential trend. It would seem that he might say there are two conflicting polls, state polls showing Trump movement, and there is a need to wait and see when new polls come out.

    Incidentally, since Stirewalt mentioned the Quinnipiac poll, I noticed that they have not released a national poll since September 24. I am wondering when and if they will release a GOP national poll next. Or, I wonder whether Chris Stirewalt is setting the stage with some inside info on a Quinnipiac poll about to come out.

    Nice job on the above article.

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    • stella says:

      Since we vote on a state by state basis, both in the primaries and in the general elections, my opinion is that the state polls are more important than the national polls. It’s nice to win a national poll, but not as significant.

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  9. Artist says:

    excellent SD and excellent comments…..such excellent company. Thank you!

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  10. jakee308 says:

    The discomfort derives from being afraid that we are powerless to thwart their aims. But knowing what they’re about is at least half the battle. Those types thrive in the dark. The detest and shrink from sunlight.

    By perceiving and promulgating their aims and methods, we shed sunlight on them showing them for all to see and understand what they’re doing and why and who will be adversely affected.

    If they succeed it will because we have surrendered to their perceived invincibility. But they are not without weaknesses or faults and the more we learn the better we are able to formulate responses and overcome their advantages. Perhaps even substituting their aims for ours.

    I am so pleased to have this site available. Tell everyone you know where we are and to aid as they can.

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    • Judgy says:

      I really HAVE been telling people about this site–and about the GOPe’s “Evil Plan”. I try to post on Breitbart at least once a week, plus some COMPLETELY random sites, such as TMZ, Us, People, E Online, as well as more “like us” ones; American Thinker; The Federalist, and Front Page Mag. Any “conversation” about Trump, I figure is “fair game” to politely interject w/ Links to the “Why I Support Trump”, or “Roadmap/ Splitter” articles on here.

      I realize I prob. should have asked this back when I STARTED doing that…..MONTHS ago, lol, but if SD, or anyone particularly pithy is reading this, is there any certain WAY I should phrase the “Evil Plan” idea, that would sound better? And is there maybe ONE best article to Link to??

      As far as I’m concerned, the Immigration/ Amnesty battle is EVERYTHING, and if I have to post on every “Low-Info” website I can think of to help Trump win, over & over, I am MORE than willing! However, I STILL haven’t come up w/ the quickest, catchiest pitch to drive eyeballs TO THIS SITE, and would VERY MUCH appreciate ANY ideas for phrasing, etc.

      Help? Tips?

      (I tend to be wordy……..and when I overthink, I get WORSE!! TIA!). 🙂

      Thank You for THIS article, SD!!

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      • R.T. says:

        I do the same, though not as thoroughly as you. Every little it helps. We do have an impact, believe it or not.

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      • Ted Wall 76 says:

        Funny you mention Front Page Mag. I was posting there a year ago, saying that I was ‘conservative not Republican”. There were the predictable replies of “you are a troll” who is trying to sow confusion. Also the ludicrous “we have to protect the rich, they create jobs”. The simplistic attitude there was that Communism is bad therefore the filthy rich crony capitalists must be good. I used to wonder who was paying for that site behind the scenes (especially since they have paid writers).

        This year, they seem to have learned a lot and improved.

        One phrase that I use is that capitalism (which in our time is only crony capitalism) is the enemy of the free market system, since the rich use their money to bribe politicians in order to unfairly suppress competition.

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          • Ted Wall 76 says:

            Thank you, sir. You know, I have to laugh when I remember an incident from very late 2008. After nearly driving the economy over the cliff, one of the fraudulent banksters was exposed for having chosen at that very time have his Wall St office undergoing a one million dollar redecorating. That was about as bad a PR move as he could make, and showed how dense and isolated from reality those people truly are.

            Yet at the end of his tv interview, he repeated that Wall Streeters have to get paid such bloated amounts because they are the “best and brightest”. They can memorize facts and figures, they have zero scruples, that’s about it.

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        • stella says:

          Successful capitalists do become rich, and do create jobs, so hating rich people just because they are rich isn’t a productive activity. Envy (which is the root of hatred of those who have more than you do) is a destructive, rather than constructive, point of view. Envy is the root cause of socialism and compulsory wealth redistribution.

          Yes, there is crony capitalism. Yet capitalism (minus the crony) does still exist. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water when discussing the “rich”. It will take you down a dark road ending in a place that none of us want to go. Capitalism IS NOT the enemy of the free market system.

          The inverse of what you said isn’t true either: “The filthy rich crony capitalists are bad, therefore Communism (or Socialism) must be good.”

          Donald Trump is a capitalist, yet he has accepted the realities of the existing political system, and played along enough to be able to thrive within it. That’s a survival mechanism.

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          • Ted Wall 76 says:

            “Successful capitalists do become rich, and do create jobs”

            Sure, they create jobs in China and India and Mexico and so on. In better days, the government broke up effective monopolies, now the government gets bribed by them. Living under the robber barons was no Shangri La.

            Statistics show that most new jobs in the US are created by small business, not the huge corporations.

            And why are you introducing an ad hominem attack against me by using the word “envy?” I don’t have one drop of envy toward the rich, I am discussing the way that they corrupt. I am a Christian and am not materialistic.

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            • stella says:

              The term envy was not directed specifically towards you. Don’t act like a special snowflake.

              Small business persons are capitalists. There is a distinction between capitalists and crony capitalists. And did you not say this: capitalism (which in our time is only crony capitalism) is the enemy of the free market system, since the rich use their money to bribe politicians in order to unfairly suppress competition.

              I stand by what I said: Capitalism IS NOT the enemy of the free market system. Words mean things.

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              • Ted Wall 76 says:

                “Don’t act like a special snowflake.”

                Another ad hominem attack.

                And nothing could be more true than that capitalism is the enemy of the free market system. Bill Gates is the perfect example. After ripping off an aquaintance in his first business deal with IBM, he went on to use the power of Microsoft to destroy any small competitors. His tactics were so underhanded that eventually M$oft was under investigation from several states’ Attornies General and faced the same in Europe. Yet M$oft never was opposed by the US federal governmentm because M$oft was donating so much to federal politicians.

                And yes, whenever I criticized Gates online, I was met by people like you who immediately started using the trite attack of saying “envy”.

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                • stella says:

                  You can’t separate the two – richness and cronyism. Wonder why.

                  Don’t be so thin-skinned. Yes, THAT was directed to you. The term “envy” wasn’t.

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                • stella says:

                  cap·i·tal·ism
                  [ˈkapədlˌizəm]
                  NOUN

                  An economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

                  synonyms: free enterprise · private enterprise · the free market

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                • lovely says:

                  I have noticed a phenomenon common on the internet. Folks who cannot defend their ideas with rational discourse accuse a fact wielder of ad hominem attacks and put a notch on their score card as if ignoring the fact is a “win” because they have dismissed the inconvenient fact an ad hominem attack.

                  And in defense of Stella (though she does not need it) she is probably one of the nicest, level headset moderators I have encountered on the internet, probably generous to a fault with allowing folks the freedom to indict themselves.

                  I’m not a long time poster here, in fact I have just been here a little over a year. There are a few simple rules, be rational, logical, readable, courteous, and able to back up posts that are presented as fact. Links when posting about of a specific article/fact are encouraged. Opinions should be stated as opinions.

                  Agreeing with the prevailing opinion, is not a prerequisite for posting, disagreeing in a petulant ignorant, combative manner is a self defeating and silly endeavor. Always look to educate yourself, it is a far more pleasant and enlightening journey than always looking to defend yourself.

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                • stella says:

                  Thin-skinned AND close minded. You can lead a horse to water ….

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                  • Ted Wall 76 says:

                    More ad hominem attacks from you. I guess you have special privilege, huh?

                    Why would I want to read anything from someone like you, who can’t defend your point of view rationally but instead continuously resorts to personal attacks. I have not seen anyone else here post repeated personal attacks in the way that you do.

                    Btw, I am archving this page so that if the “moderators” decide to censor and ban according to the crony system, the record is preserved by a neutral third party.

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                  • stella says:

                    Yes, I have special privileges. Just as you do at your blog. I have explained my point of view, and added a link to a blog post that further explains it. You refuse to read it.

                    As for “personal attacks”, something that is true isn’t an “attack”. Go ahead and archive all you want; who cares? Can I post anything I want at your blog? Oh good – I’ll go there and do that right now. And it will probably be your first comment. Treasure it.

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                  • stella says:

                    Ted Wall 76 has now put a post on his blog about me and the Treehouse. Go and read it. By the way, my comments on his blog are “in moderation”. I love hypocrisy!

                    Update: My comments have been approved. Just as I have approved a moderated comment of his.

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                  • Did TW76 just have a “Lee Stranahan/Charles C Johnson/Charlie Grapski” moment?

                    Why? Because he was challenged over his assertion that “…capitalism… … is the enemy of the free market system…”???

                    I have to ask: What is a “free market system” without capitalism?

                    IMO Stella already answered that question, and brilliantly so when she quoted the very definition of capitalism, making the nature of any alternatives painfully obvious. Apparently, TW76 went all ” ‘Splodey Head ” when he realized that (apparently) for some time he may have been (inadvertently?) shilling for… what, exactly? Socialism? Communism? Why? Embarrassment for not seeing the obvious, or for having it pointed out in public? IDK, and IDC, really.

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                • texan59 says:

                  Not sure if you’re aware but Stella IS a mod on this site. While this site is a friendly place you still have to be able to back up your bravado. Kinda like a Boy Scout- be prepared.

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                • joshua says:

                  in fact sir, you are wasting time of readership on this informative site with personality and pettiness. please respect the rest of us who do not wish to have to wade through third grade grammar school playground silliness. and thank you.

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            • trst10 says:

              What is your point Ted? You don’t like rich people? You’re pro small business but don’t like capitalism? You’re a socialist? Communist? Perhaps if you actually held a position, or at least made clear what it was, you wouldn’t feel like it were you being attacked. (I strongly disagree with your definition of being “attacked” as well)

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              • littlelaughters says:

                There are people who identify being rich as being greedy. I’ve talked with some Christians who believe this, yet they didn’t seem to realize it was the rich members of our church who gave their $ to help pay our bills, our pastors salary, and helped to build our community outreach center.
                Good Christian men and women who were generous with their money as they knew it was really God’s money and it was He that had blessed them.
                Rich people are not the enemy. Rich people who became rich by ill gotten gain perhaps, but working hard and building wealth is not a sin, nor is it anti-conservative. Plenty of poor people are hurting our nation and our values.
                I really do believe it is envy that is at the root of the idea that rich people are bad people.

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                • Ace says:

                  “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!”

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                  • littlelaughters says:

                    Yours is a response often used by the socialist left. As if I am not aware of the verse.
                    The left often like to spit out verses from the Bible to make Jesus into a socialist or a communist, He was neither.
                    “Jesus does not hate the rich. Jesus does make a statement that it is difficult for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God. However, His own treatment of the rich during His time on earth (take Zacchaeus for example), His calling of some known to be wealthy to be among His apostles, and His consistent teaching of love for all people (that would include the rich), defy the belief that somehow Jesus hated the rich…or even prefers poor people to them. If in fact Jesus does prefer the poor or only cares about the poor, why would we want to give them anything–if by doing so we are removing them from that spiritually privileged class? This makes little sense, and yet it is being taught from pulpits and publishing houses with great gusto and hyperbole–bringing injury to the Good News for all people”. http://timspivey.com/biblical-economics-does-jesus-hate-the-rich/

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                  • trst10 says:

                    Matthew 19:24 – I’ve read someplace that this verse haunted Elvis Presley in the latter years of life. Not sure how that is relevant, but it always comes to mind when I see that verse. Matthew 19:26 – “WIth man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

                    Jesus was not saying a man’s wealth makes him unworthy of heaven. Rather a rich man will have a far more difficult time realizing his spiritual poverty because of his earthly wealth. The simple fact of having wealth does not make you an evil person, only what we allow it to do to our relationship with God. You cannot be saved on your own merits, “but with God all things are possible.”

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          • Josh says:

            Thank you for this response, stella. You are spot on. I wanted to respond but you’ve stated it perfectly for me. Again, thank you.

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        • your tour guide says:

          Give examples of how crony capitalism works.
          Remember the stories from back when about the military paying $1700 for
          a 50 cent plastic piece for an airplane toilet? Crony capitalism was at work. The
          specifications for the piece probably filled 60-100 pages. Because the specifications
          were so long a lot of lower cost suppliers were scared off. The ones that waded
          through all the specs threw up their hands when they priced out what it would cost
          to have the machinery to produce a product with “unusual” dimensions.
          That’s federal. Crony capitalism works at a local level this way. A city or
          county passes a tree ordinance. Say someone wants to build a small subdivision
          on 7 acres. If it’s someone that the good old boys know, then they can cut down
          any tree they see fit. After they clear the land, they can then build 28 homes on it.
          If it’s you, me, or the new guy starting out, then the rules are different. The
          county is out measuring the width of every tree that’s cut. Once that’s done, the
          new guy’s lucky to have enough space left to build 23 homes there. Look up the
          definition for the word “graft”. Crony capitalism is arranging the situation so that
          someone gains an unfair advantage. Graft is the exact same thing.

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          • Ted Wall 76 says:

            I live in an area riddled with graft, almost as corrupt as where the infamous Kennedys are. The politicians even use the police against the enemies of their cronies here, all the while raking in the money from kickbacks on no bid contracts. No Chappaquiddicks here, though. No Skakel murders, either.

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      • Ted Wall 76 says:

        And oh yeah, there’s also mentioning the plain fact that the Republican establishment tries to destroy the Tea Party.

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      • Mist'ears Mom says:

        Great stuff! I agree that illegal immigration is the issue and the Donald can fix it, we also need to realize that the refugee resettlement and asylum seekers are just as dangerous to our country as the illegals and anchor babies.
        This back door invasion of our country labeled under the guise of humanity does not help anyone but the government contractors paid to bring these people in. Once here they never go back even if they want to. They are first in line for ALL welfare and assistance programs before our own citizens. They are given loans to fly here, start businesses, buy cars and/or given cash to buy whatever their food stamps can’t. The gov contractors get them jobs that our own unemployed American citizens could be working at.
        All these government resources these refugees gets are paid for by US! This with the illegal immigration is killing this country and destroying the fabric of this amazing country.

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      • jakee308 says:

        I stress that so many candidates are in because they’re being paid through the superpacs to stay in. And that any money left in a campaign after the bills are paid is kept by the candidate. That’s a sweet deal. A few appearances, some talks and greeting the crowd and Karl Rove et al puts a couple million in your campaign fund for you to keep later.

        I also point out the GOPe changing the rules to make a movement candidate harder to get the delegates and that the people staying in are doing so only to lower the percents for Trump and then when they quit they’ll pass those delegates to Bush or Rubio. (they can pass the delegates can’t they?)

        Keep it short and sweet; Karl Rove, super pacs donating and candidates keeping the cash. It’s payoff to rig the election their way.

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    • Betty says:

      “The discomfort derives from being afraid that we are powerless to thwart their aims. ”

      That’s it exactly, only when I think we are “powerless to thwart their aims” it provokes more then discomfort for me, it provokes something close to hopelessness.

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      • Josh says:

        But that statement is not true! You have been led to believe it.

        One person CAN change the world. But you (not you individually Betty) have to want to do it. Freedom is not free. It is a constant battle against evil. You have to be willing to leave your comfort zone and that is where most people are stuck – in their comfort zone.

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        • Duchess says:

          I feel like that sometimes too Betty-but when I come to this site and see all the thoughtful and detailed analysis and responses, I feel better. It’s like the blinders have come off and I see what is really going on. SD -you are amazing!

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  11. PatriotUSA says:

    I am honored to be here so much and be part of this. Thank you Sundance and I share much from here and urge people to come here for the truth. Even in the shadowlands where I prefer to ‘live’, sunlight and truth are absolutely necessary and vital. Remaining quiet is no longer an option.

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  12. The Boss says:

    I take comfort in knowing that elitists in this country are outnumbered, and they’re cowards. This is always something I keep in mind. They can run but they can’t hide…anywhere on the planet. And at the end of the day, few will want to actually leave the USA, making it easier to hold them to account when the time comes.

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  13. R-C says:

    I posted the following to the “Open Thread” page, but I see it fits better here:

    “These are the times that try mens’ souls…”

    The barrage of dishonest polling has just begun. Gird yourselves to be deluged with “Trump is Finally Doomed!”; “Rubio Rising!” and “Carson Soaring!” stories; this is only the beginning.

    But Trump is NOT “doomed”, not by a long shot. Rubio’s Amnesty position will be the death of his campaign, and Carson isn’t “soaring”–he’s “snoring”.

    Reality “is what it is”–the laugh is on THEM.

    Stay focused; stay strong, brothers and sisters!

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  14. Millwright says:

    Sundance: Those of us “of a certain age” know sycophants and mindless axioms go hand-in-hand on the political stage. But we also recognize “True Believers’ ” by their willingness to pursue TRUTH wherever it leads, are icons to heed. You, Sir, are one !

    For many of us, I suspect, the current political landscape is a minefield. I thank you and your fellow contributors for tireless efforts to reveal the political mines and entrapments to us all. My “salad days” proclamations, (mostly sneered at), of encroaching socialism’s consequences have, unfortunately, proven even more profound than I envisioned. I see Mr. Trump as offering Americans opportunity to retake their government from evil forces.

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  15. winky says:

    Watched OAN tonight and Graham Ledger interviewed the man who does the polls for them who has Trump consistently higher and leading consistently in the 30″s and Ledger asked him why there was discrepancy in the polls showing Carson leading…he stated his polls were more accurate because they were polling of voters in past primaries and the groups were huge 2000 to 3000 people where the other polls were 400 or less and the margin of error was much higher. He stated that Trump was very steady and strong.

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    • That explains a LOT!!!

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      My take on Florida: Trump will easily defeat Rubio/Bush. Rubio and Scott got elected on the backs of the grassroots base that came out in 2010. Both have screwed the base, over and over since elections. Payback will be hell.

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      • Josh says:

        Scott was the lesser of evils – big time.

        The other option was Charlie Crist. Charlie Crist is evil. He’ll be back. Evil does not exit gracefully.

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      • IMO the likelihood of a corrupt “Brokered Nominating Convention” renders most of the poll-driven speculation moot. Anything short of clearly decisive Trump victories in most states will leave room for the GOPe weasels to subvert the will of the GOP voters by selecting a “Potempkin Candidate” who will be intentionally predestined to lose to Hillary in the general election. This is what they wanted all along. A show election (just like the one in 2012) that will provide the GOPe with plausible deniability, and that mask their complicity in the “Uniparty” conspiracy to install socialism after the destruction of our economy through the Cloward-Piven strategy.

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    • lecombatblog says:

      Winky, I’m copying & saving your comment for posterity. A future tell of what a landslide election 2016 will be for Trump and America.

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  16. Stephen Mac says:

    Great post. The real battle, truth vs delusional lies.
    Have to give an endorsement here.
    David Kupelian’s new book, The Snapping of the American Mind”. Get it and read it!

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  17. flawesttexas says:

    Again…spot on analysis

    I read this just after finding PhonyCon Media PosterBoy Surging In Polls…Marco Rubio…is being endorsed and funded by the biggest supporter of homosexual marriage…Paul Singer

    Rubio already had Soros Stooge Cesar Conda as his Chief of Staff. But, you wont hear that on FauxNews/SalemWitchHunt Media

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  18. William says:

    Good exposure of the corrupt so-called news media. There is a lot of information that the news media keep out of circulation and away from the eyes of the public. I was shocked, though I always suspected it, by the recent study of the behavior of immigrants regarding the use of welfare. If you haven’t seen the results of the CIS report, make sure to look at it. The politicians and the news media don’t want you to see it.
    http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households

    See also this presentation by Stefan Molyneux:

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  19. david bradley says:

    Very nice piece.
    Please cite the artists and photographers on your graphics.
    I would like to get a hold of the cool rhino vs. elephant illustration to put up in the house but no artist is cited under your illustration.
    Keep up the good work!

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  20. Eskie Mom says:

    I can never understand- or imagine, how people can expect to function successfully without standing on the truth. No wonder everything is so off balance & screwed up.

    Another excellent post, Sundance. Thanks so much for everything you do.

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  21. lecombatblog says:

    It’s not shocking to me. I noticed the duplicity of Republicans since 2004.

    I faxed, email, and called congress. Their actions & vested interest were a problem then.

    Nothing has changed.

    Now it’s time for Big Change. (Trump 2016)

    Drudge is right. Filters, filters everywhere not a single truth to witness.

    I appreciate CTH.

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  22. Clc says:

    for every person that seeks truth here at the treehouse, there are 100,000 that are completely happy in their own little worlds. they buy in to what tmz or the MSM tell them and really don’t want to be bothered by anything you say to them. hearing the truth is too painful for them. it’s why I see little hope for this country.

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    • Josh says:

      I believe your numbers are off. Yes there are many that are oblivious and like it that way. They often do not participate though. Many of those who were oblivious are waking up. Do not despair, my friend. In the end, G-d wins!!

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  23. tampafan says:

    Jeb Bush was in Florida yesterday. I heard some interview clips on the radio that were scary foreshadowing. He said something like “I’ll think you’ll see that when the delegates are counted, I will win the nomination”. Somebody is still giving him confidence that the convention is rigged for him. (while they just announced that Hillary had wrapped up the 500 Dem super delegates, 4 months ago when she was low in the polls and was asked about Bernie or Biden, she slipped and said with irritation “but I have all the super delegates”).

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  24. Kristin says:

    Very good piece. It keeps me going.

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  25. Yeoman says:

    This post is only slightly connected, but bear with me…

    Everything we have heard from anyone other than Trump on his tax plan is that it would cost $10 trillion over 10 years. I ran a few numbers yesterday based on the tax information from the IRS, but I had to base it off of AGI. While I don’t see the $10 Trillion number, I do see it brings in less taxes ASSUMING no changes in AGI, which Trump would dramatically raise AGI for higher earners increasing the taxes they pay, not to mention hedge funds.

    Are there any tax-wonks in here that know how to get at the tax data for an accurate analysis of tax plans? I’m interested in building a tax plan comparison spreadsheet we can use to compare all the tax plans of various candidates.

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  26. Josh says:

    Things that came to mind while reading the above:

    Too many find The Truth too scary (“too painful to accept”) so will avoid it

    The constant “updating” of text books

    The de-education of citizens (worldwide) is intentional. It’s “their” way of controlling the masses.

    “… seeing the transparency DOES require the observer to carry a willingness to accept a natural discomfort – and not deploy defensive avoidance.” EXACTLY! Man up! Deal with it. If not for yourself, then for others.

    Sunlight is an excellent disinfectant.

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      RE: “The de-education of citizens (worldwide) is intentional. It’s “their” way of controlling the masses.”

      You’re talking about Common Core of Jebito and Bill Gates too?

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  27. NHVoter says:

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  28. the origin of our association is researching raw information and raw data to understand what the media is not revealing. Then we converse about it../ “it pertains to correlation” is a thought process that puts you in charge of the search engine as “they” all drive on automatic I drive on standard shift which put you as a component of the search engine you see the terrain and shift your thinking gears to accommodate it , I put the cold anger into my “cold finger” and point it at my brain authenticating the raw data throughout the medias “Differend” its a bag of words but I control that I shake en bake that and run it through the glean er, its out there , it pertains to correlation

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  29. FTP:

    The advent of the internet (as a communication tool) has made almost immediate information available, often from the source of the story itself.

    …and that frightens the people who want to keep the general public “in the dark” for various nefarious reasons. Sunlight is their enemy. Open the curtains! Pull up the blinds! Let the sunshine IN!

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  30. manickernel says:

    In my Senior High School yearbook a note penned from my Chem teacher. “Don’t go through life cynical, it is a waste.” – If anything I am more cynical now though I try to stay optimistic overall. As great as the Internet is, the spread of fakery and lies has never been more pronounced in human history as now.

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  31. Libertas says:

    Even Breitbart has now sold out. This is truly the only place left. They have been paid a great deal of money to get behind Carson despite the evidence the contrary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2016_presidential_primaries

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  32. Thank you, Sundance. You keep us alert to the games of the MSM.

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  33. fred says:

    I’m not sure if I know what good writing is or great political commentary. Not really my forte but I get a sixth sense that I trust what I read here and that it is very well written.

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    • taqiyyologist says:

      For anyone who has read this site, the analyses, and the comments since 2012 — it’s not a sixth sense.

      It’s just good sense. Truth is paramount here.

      I would say “common sense”, but good sense is not so common any more.

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  34. peachteachr says:

    One of the first things I read here is “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.” I was hooked from that phrase on to today.

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  35. rashamon says:

    I believe the discussion that took place early was based off the use of “capitalism” vs. “corporatocracy”, which far better describes the consolidation of big money, government bailouts and globalization we have witnesses over the last decades.

    Why don’t we just agree to switch to “crony corporatism” as it defines a system where Big Business, Big Government and Big Countries work in collusion to the destruction of individual rights.

    Capitalism is the tool an individual uses to advance economically and remains the engine behind the growth from a small business to a big business, sometimes becoming a corporation. Corporatocracies engaged in corporatism can be just as dangerous as any totalitarian form of ownership of the economy as a very few shred the rights of the individual to pursue their own interests.

    True capitalism needs all the help it can get in this world of diminishing individual rights.

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Isn’t that the definition of Fascism?

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      • rashamon says:

        On the same road except for who’s running the show; i.e. the puppetmeister(s). I had a professor who lumped anything that smacked of one or a few running the show as “totalitarianism” because he got so tired of those who spent their lives arguing about which was more centralized, autocratic, dictatorial, regimented and suppressive than another form of “totalitarianism” instead of trying to defeat the whole shebang. As he concluded, “When you don’t have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, what difference is the label?” I think he spent too many hours in conferences with Mikhail Suslov to have a sense of humor about the topic. 😉

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  36. Ziiggii says:

    Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to you SD. I got into a long discussion over the current political climate with both sets of parents to a dear couple (husband/wife) of ours (me and my wife) over this past weekend. I was able for the first time, in a long while, not only confidently discuss the climate with them, but to also point them in the direction of the Treehouse as they too try to make sense of the current events.

    This article is perfectly timed to present the what, why and how the Treehouse may truly be “The Last Refuge” of the great American experiment. I know there has been a lot of newcomers that have found a tree branch to sit on and I assume some may have missed that what defines this refuge is not politics or ideology, but the journey to discover THE truth; with all of us at different points along that journey. But, we sojourn together.

    Thanks for laying out the map -AND- for being our guide, all of you that decided to build this refuge, along the path that you started blazing all those years ago.

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  37. kallibella says:

    I would like to express my gratitude to Sundance and the moderators who keep this site going. If it were not for this site I would be consuming the “conservative” news at Fox.

    I had started to wean myself from the MSM for the last 15 years and quickly go to over saturation with FNC in the last several years. To me their bias and preference with all things GOPe is very obvious, and that became very tiresome fast.

    But perhaps the thing that was a total eye opener for me is Operation Hummingbird with its supporting theorem of “Remove Donald Trump in 2015/16 and Ben Carson becomes Herman Cain, Ted Cruz becomes Newt Gingrich, and Jeb Bush positions comfortably as Mitt Romney circa 2012.”

    This is a macabre and evil plan intended for our country to go down along with all of us and our posterity.

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  38. JeremyR says:

    Sometimes the truth is not as important as the why of the lie. Truth has no agenda. Lies do, and like most fungus, they tend to wilt rather quickly when illuminated by the light of truth. It not just that you get to the truth, but that you expose the lie that makes you a danger to people who have an agenda. Every chance I get, I tell people about CTH. You do more then I can. Your ability to sift and shake the truth out of the muddied messes makes you one of the best weapons in the fight.
    Thanks to you and your associates.

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  39. conservativehippie says:

    Amen!

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  40. Spencer's Mom says:

    Sundance, i just want to commend you on the wonderful analysis you’ve been doing here at this blog. I am so impressed with your clear-headed logic and your ability to research and argue your position – never mind your opinions, which more or less coincide with my own views and my reasons for backing Donald Trump. A few months ago, I followed a link i found at another blog to this blog and I have been returning several times per day, ever since. I guess I am hooked. 😊

    For many years now, I’ve followed a lot of “right/center-right” blogs, but this is the first time that I’ve ever had “The Game Behind the Game” explained to me so well. I’m embarrassed to say that, despite considering myself to be pretty well-read in “things political,” I have actually been pretty naive with regard to American Politics. I never realized to what extent the “BIG MONEY” in America was truly “Statist/Socialist” with “Big-Government” views – with many “Republicans” holding similar positions to “Democrats.” Wow – what an eye opener for me: Club for Growth, Chamber of Commerce, et. al. – who knew?

    I hate to sound melodramatic, but I sense that, as a nation, we are truly at a tipping point – and Donald Trump may be our only hope to correct our course.

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  41. NCPatriot says:

    SD:Trump is smart and seems to plan ahead. Do you think he knows about the “splitter” strategy,rule 40, the pitfalls of a brokered convention, super delegates etc? Do you think he can devise a plan to thwart the RNC , if there is one?

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  42. dondeg says:

    Hello all my high information fellow citizens. I found this really interesting video about Jeb’s leaked slide show to his donors. Its being interpreted by a political science PhD who is very liberal, but still knows her stuff very well. It is well worth listening to. I think we should try to show the following image all over the internet because it shows the utter disrespect Jeb has for us vulgarians.

    The video is here:

    The image is here:

    Please get this out to all the outlets you know. I think it is a nice torpedo to sink Jeb’s leaking boat sooner instead of later.

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    • Judgy says:

      Wow, Dondeg! This is scary! I haven’t been all over the site today, but HOPE you posted it in other articles.

      Jeb’s confidence is extremely worrying–not to mention sick-making; ugh, what arrogance!! Yeah, HE’S the guy to “fix everything”–the candidate who stands for everything his base DOESN’T want.

      What could he possibly “fix” then….other than VOTES??

      Sometimes I get scared that this is ALL a sham, and that REAL votes, from REAL, living and legal citizens won’t count for, um………for Chipotle.

      THANKS FOR POSTING THAT.

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      • dondeg says:

        Its very insightful to look at the slides and listen to the commentary by the speaker. Gives you real insight into what a bunch of chumps they think we are, and what a scam these pollsters and consultants are. Just like Trump keeps saying. Jeb is an idiot for falling for their scam.

        No haven’t posted anywhere else so please feel free to copy and paste everywhere!

        Thank you for commenting!

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  43. sheridan says:

    The blatant lies of the liberal main stream media are now pathelogical. Its a case of everyone knowing they are lying and yet they just keep lying and telling themselves no one notices.
    Like a child stealing a cookie while you are watching a then when you ask them why they took it they hide it behind there back and say I didn’t. Media credibility is now a comedy show call count the lies and spot the hoax.
    Just like the word racism has become a laughing stock to this generation. Liberals call everyone regardless of race a racist if you don’t agree with them. These days if they call someone a racist you automatically think oh ok then that’s the good guy. They use this pathetic cultural marxist label for everyone and everything they see. Its become Do you like white people ? Liberal then you racist Are oreos brown? Liberal that’s so racist Do you drink white milk? Liberal you must be white supremist. The liberal mind and media have decended into a hell and insanity of there own design. They are crazy!
    Its back fired in a spectacular way because no one believes any single word they say or write. They are the strange lost people of the world incapable of a single independent thought that contradicts there marxist indoctrinated minds

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