UPDATES: Shooter Identified – Oregon Community College Shooting – Pre Planned Act of Jihad – Warning Posted Yesterday…

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Multiple Updates Below – Shooter ID’d as 26-year-old “Chris Harper Mercer” ♦ Last night an anonymous poster on the Website 4Chan posted a warning of an intent to carry out an attack at a Northwest U.S. Community College (CACHE HERE).  ♦ Today an attack was carried out:

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According to this Local report:    The gunman who opened fire at Umpqua Community College in Oregon asked victims to state their religion before opening fire, according to multiple reports. An 18-year-old student told the News-Review newspaper that the gunman, after shooting her teacher in the head through a window, told people to get on the ground. He then told people to stand up and state their religion before opening fire. Twitter user @BodhiLooney, who said her grandma was at the school, said the shooter asked people if they were Christian. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

♦  Umpqua Community College was/is the local college attended by Alek Scarlatos (pictured below far right).  Scarlatos was one of the 3 U.S. Heroes who took down the jihadist gunman on the train in France recently.  Alek was enrolled in this current fall semester (per his Facebook), however he cancelled his classes and took time off to take advantage of an opportunity and complete in Dancing With The Stars.

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♦ 26-year-old male gunman (media briefing)
♦ Shooter carrying long-gun (police scanner) and 3 handguns (per CNN)
♦ Shooter traveled to Oregon from the “Midwest” (per CNN, NBC and ABC)

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♦  President Obama meets with Oregon National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos, left, Anthony Sadler and Air Force Airman 1st Class Spencer Stone in the Oval Office (link)

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♦  Alek Skarlatos graduated from Roseburg Highs School and attended Umpqua Community College before joining the National Guard and serving in Afghanistan. He is currently a contestant on the television show “Dancing With the Stars.” (link)

♦  EARLER –  The FBI and DHS are warning members of the United States military to scrub their social media accounts due to a growing threat from ISIS terrorists.

Catherine Herridge reported on “Happening Now” today on the joint bulletin that went out over the weekend. The bulletin said the FBI has information suggesting “individuals overseas are spotting and assessing like-minded individuals who are willing and capable of conducting attacks against current and former U.S.-based members of the United States military.”

Officials want current service members and veterans to review their social media posts and remove information that could “attract the attention of ISIS and its supporters.” (link)

Was this an act of Jihadist Retaliation?

Curiously, authorities are refusing to release the name of the gunman.

update-1UPDATE:  Shooter is being Identified as 26-year-old Chris Harper Mercer

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Via MySpace Link

chris harper mercer 2♦ Chris Harper Mercer is Social Media friends (My Space) with only two people.  One of those people is Mahmoud Ali Ehsani as noted above.

♦ If you look at the profile of Mahmoud Ali Ehsani (aka: ” Dick_hard_like_a_pistol ” ) what you find is a propensity toward Islamic Extremism and Jihad.  Here’s a sample:

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(Source link)

While it is difficult to determine the timeline of the relationship; the possibility remains that Chris Harper-Mercer may have been recruited and radicalized.   More research needed.

♦ There is also a Chris Harper-Mercer who held a profile on a Dating Website “Spiritual Passions”  (Bow-Chicka-Wow-Wow) Under the alias ” IRONCROSS45 ” : (LINK)

However, WARNING – this profile looks to be recently constructed and may be a spoof by the 4Chan website people who are trolling the storyline, angry about the media pointing fingers at the prior story on their site: ( The profile appears edited post death – SEE HERE   So don’t necessarily trust the content

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(Source Link)

♦  Chris Harper Mercer also appears via remaining FaceBook postings and Disquis comments on various social media sites.  In this example he commented on a Black Lives Matter Fundraising Page (SOURCE)

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♦ We frequently see the Black Lives Matter (BLM), F*ck The Police (FtP) and race-based social media (FyF), intermixed with Islamic extremist ideology and Jihad. (Examples Valdosta State and Eric Sheppard Jr)  So it’s no surprise to see Mercer engaged with BLM and hatred toward white People.  Particularly given his own mixed race.

(Via CBS) […]  Posts on an online blog that appears to belong to Mercer reference multiple shootings, including one in Virginia in August that left a television news reporter and cameraman dead. The last upload on the blog was Wednesday. when a documentary about the Newtown shooting was posted.

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(link for Chris Harper-Mercer’s Blog)

In one post on the blog about Vester Flanagan, the man who killed the reporter and cameraman in Virginia, Mercer apparently wrote, “I have noticed that so many people like [Flanagan] are alone and unknown, yet when they spill a little blood, the whole world knows who they are. A man who was known by no one, is now known by everyone. His face splashed across every screen, his name across the lips of every person on the planet, all in the course of one day. Seems like the more people you kill, the more you’re in the limelight.” (link)

Victims tell their family members how the shooter identified his victims:

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978 Responses to UPDATES: Shooter Identified – Oregon Community College Shooting – Pre Planned Act of Jihad – Warning Posted Yesterday…

  1. facebkwallflower says:

    Great opinion expressed, “I will support your gun round up after you have rounded up the following; murderers, rapists, pedophiles, violent illegals, gang members, jihadists, America hating communists, drug cartels, psychotropic doped up college kids, black panthers, militant atheists, the KKK, Westboro Baptist Church, hatred of all manner, men wanting to date my future daughter, rodeo clowns and the entirety of the U.S. Congress! Oh that’s too much to ask? Get back on your unicorn now and have it fly you to a time machine so your mother can schedule an appointment at the nearest Planned Parenthood.” Jason O

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  2. 0Hour1 says:

    Here is the Last Like Chris Harper-Mercer did on his moms facebook go fast and look it shows his knowledge of Muslim Activism this race car driver is heavy into the activist scene Pro Palestine garbage look at all the users following this guy Cezka Ecstar

    I would suggest screenshotting some of them before mom scrubs it this is the true Chris Harper-Mercer

    https://www.facebook.com/ichaldun/followers?pnref=lhc

    What makes this relevant is that MOM would not be into the MOTOGP scene thats a young mans sport heavily followed in Muslim countries

    Also Ironic is that he followed not the US Circuit but the Middle East circuit

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      Islamic terrorists do that sort of thing. Of course this guy is one. Why do ya think the Obammunists and CoC are nervous? He is not a nut. He is an Islamic soldier. He feels justified.

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      • 0Hour1 says:

        Not the first time in Winchester a kid was Radicalized Via a mosque either remember this gem http://www.pe.com/articles/gadahn-765512-adam-yahiye.html

        Portland Oregon Mosques have had a lot of radicalization as Missouri has to I would expect more chaos from those area’s in the future

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      • John Galt says:

        Are we talking about the 20 year old Perp or the 26 year old SimPerp?

        Governor Kate Brown: “We have confirmation that the shooter is deceased. He is a 20-year-old male.”

        Sheriff John Hanlin: “You won’t hear his name from me or this investigation.”

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        • woohoowee says:

          -snip-

          The heavily armed gunman who slaughtered nine people at an Oregon college left a hate-filled note at the scene of his rampage and “felt the world was against him,” law enforcement officials confirmed Friday.

          -snip-

          Investigators said it was too soon to identify a motive,…

          http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/oregon-college-shooting/oregon-shooting-umpqua-gunman-chris-harper-mercer-what-we-know-n437351

          Two sentences from same article do not compute. Why not release the contents of this letter and of Flanagan’s letter?

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        • facebkwallflower says:

          This whole, “you won’t hear me say his name…….” is new with this fella and think it is a smokescreen to paint this time a mental illness. Yet, all time in the past when obvious a shooter on meds and mental illness it gets overlooked and a refusal to acknowledge. But this time all of a sudden everyone is selling the guy was seeking attention so not going to give it so as not to encourage other mentally ill attention seekers. This is not a mental illness issue this time. It is no different (well, may be a bit different in not beheadings) than the slaughters of Christians in the Middle East. It is right here in the USA but if the people at large are allowed to see it with eyes wide open, they would be vigilant and organize to stop this. America must not know yet. Other work must be done to get things in place for complete usurpation and transformation of Lady Liberty into Sister Burka.

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    • Texas Fossil says:

      FROM> profile on a Dating Website “Spiritual Passions”
      (from the Wayback Machine)

      On 1st save on Oct 2:

      About me>

      Religious Views: Not Religious, Not Religious, but Spiritual

      About match>

      Religious Views: Pagan, Wiccan, Not Religious, but Spiritual

      On last save on Oct 2:

      About me>

      Religious Views: Not Religious, Not Religious, but Spiritual

      About match>

      Religious Views: Not Religious, but Spiritual, Pagan, Wiccan

      2 observations:

      (1) The repetition of “Not Religious” 2 times looks suspect of prior editing to hide something missing.

      (2) And on the Match entry note the change in sequence of preference. Whey would that be something that needed changing?
      ?
      Religious Views: Pagan, Wiccan, Not Religious, but Spiritual
      changed to:
      Religious Views: Not Religious, but Spiritual, Pagan, Wiccan

      And NOBODY believes that Conservative Republican is compatible with any of the other entries.

      I’m sure there are other puzzles if each of the 10 saves on Oct 2 is analyzed entry by entry.

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  3. lilbirdee'12 says:

    islam, ireland whatever, daesh, it really doesn’t matter right now to me. He was anti-Christian. Those brave souls who stood for their beliefs in Our Heavenly Father are with Him now before His Throne and praising Him. THAT MATTERS ! May their families and friends know that and may it give them immeasurable comfort.

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  4. Backspin says:

    Journalism used to be about facts. Who , what , when , where , how & possibly why.
    Now its all Kent Brockman , all the time. ” Give us Dirty Laundry ” , Don Henley.

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  5. Doodahdaze says:

    Maybe some leaks will start to come out.

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  6. 0Hour1 says:

    Among Mercer’s weapons were a 9mm Glock pistol and a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson, according to the report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He also had a .40-caliber pistol that was traced to a different person in Portland. Investigators suspect he may have been a student at the college because a receipt found at the crime scene shows he purchased textbooks on campus two days before the shooting, according to the AP.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Islamic+Center+of+Portland/@45.4509727,-122.7215392,3a,75y,258.21h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4DNRJ-3vPIiRyQhUdMaN1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xa3ad0b8fa649f509!6m1!1e1

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  7. Backspin says:

    HERO – Chris Mintz , took five rounds trying to stop the bad guy. Slow recovery expected. Donations here ; http://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4

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  8. now i’m hearing all these pundits rightfully pose the question “why doesn’t he (obama) address the record off the chart gun violence in chicago?…….and the answer is simple….HE CAN’T…..to do so would completely destroy his (and liberals in general) arguments for tighter gun control AND would also force them to go farther and provide an answer to what the real question should be…..which is WHY does this kind of shit happen weekend after weekend in majority MINORITY (ie black) communities anyway….and the answer for that is the total FAILURE of decades of rainbow and unicorns liberal policies and programs (welfare etc) put into place that have resulted in the breakdown and implosion of minority families subsequently giving rise to what has ultimately become the glorified street-cred seeking celebrity status that is the “thug culture” that now permeates these same neighborhoods and runs completely un-checked because police in these major metropolitan urban centers (baltimore, NYC, chicago, LA, etc) are now afraid to do their jobs (protect and serve) for risk of being prosecuted and verbally raped 1st by the media, then by their friendly neighborhood local LIBERAL district attorney’s (ie mosby) or mayor (deBlasio / rawlings) and because of these idiots (among others) the police are now being targeted BY the very scumbags that they are supposed to be getting off the streets (thank you BLM)…..i could go on but i’m hungry and its lunchtime

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  9. jewelsc6 says:

    So now we are hearing him and his Mother went to target practise together. I think dear old Mom should be hauled in for questioning.

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  10. Michael Thomas says:

    Our J.V., affirmative-action “president” forgot to remind us last night that we Christians should just get off of our high horse.

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  11. Concerned says:

    Does anyone doubt that this terrorist would have blown up some pressure cooker bombs if guns weren’t available? The Tsarnaev dopes were able to do it, why not this guy?

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  12. Like I said before, of course it’s jihad. What other reason to ask if a helpless victim was a Christian? That is, before the assassin shoots them in the head. This act was repeated 9 times.. Or one may wish to believe this was just another deranged act of lunacy involving yet to be revealed ( maybe ) a long history of mental illness. ( thanks goes to Dems & moonbats for this ) as a Christian, I suppose I will get off my high horse…. With a Gun
    Now, lets talk about Chicago & the South side.. Really.

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      I am with you Scott S. of course it’s jihad.
      That is why BO went into white wash mode.
      It’s the guns it’s the guns smoke screen.
      Shooters only male friend loves all things jihad.
      All MSM say is “he was full of hate” well yea, and WHERE DID HE GET ALL THAT HATE
      FOR JEWS AND CHRISTIANS?

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    • facebkwallflower says:

      Of course it is jihad. Even if proves person mentally ill does not erase it is Jihad. The mentally ill in USA are very predictable if on meds and can be recruited with some basic, easy mind manipulations, especially if understand nature of meds; even recruited from across the world. For emphasis I repeat if the guy shows to be mentally ill it does not negate being a jihadist.

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  13. Apparently he was going to school there but there seems to be some covering up of that fact, for whatever reason I can not fathom. He was listed as a production assistant for a play the school was putting on by Centerstage Theatre at UCC. They’ve since shut down there Facebook but it’s still in the cache.

    It’s clear someone from that school must have know him, why aren’t they speaking up? Why are they trying to hide this?

    From the cache Centerstage Theatre at UCC

    Please join me in congratulating the team for our Fall show! This is going to be an awesome comedy to start out the year. This British comedy comes with witty language and spooky effects. We are especially delighted to feature our local star who is now based out of NYC, Josh Carlton!
    BLITHE SPIRIT, by Noel Coward
    Presented by UCC Theatre Arts Oct 30-Nov 8
    CHARLES: Josh Carlton
    RUTH: Rebecca Miles
    EDITH: Abby Dooley
    DR. BRADMAN: Devin Barnett
    MRS. BRADMAN: Alexandra Duvall
    MADAME ARCATI: Rachel Fitzhugh
    ELVIRA, the Blithe Spirit: Chloe Quinn
    Understudy for DR. BRADMAN: Benjamin Jacobsen
    Directed by Stephanie Newman
    Assistant Director: Aaron Carter
    Stage Manager: Anna Mae Whatley
    Production Assistants: Alex Frier, Joel Macha, Mary Chitwood, Chris Harper-Mercer, Isaac Guerrero, Ashley Jakubos
    Lighting Assistant: Devin Barnett
    Special Effects: Jim Smith, Keith Weikum
    Program/Ads: Fred Brenchley
    Marketing: Travis Newman
    Other Volunteers: YOU! Get involved and have some fun!

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  14. Les says:

    I don’t see any jihad stuff from mom. She seems to spend most of her down time drooling over a dead guitarist. Her family all seem to be well-behaved, educated, and upper/middle class working folks.

    She shouldn’t have had a house full of guns with an emotionally disturbed live-at-home adult son. Why did he murder young Christians? Just to be Internet infamous, I guess.

    Another lonely loser.

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  15. 0Hour1 says:

    https://www.facebook.com/laurel.harper.3/following
    Follow the followers sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards

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  16. 0Hour1 says:

    https://twitter.com/0Hour1/status/650011252027203584 ISIS claimed it we are right once again

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    • …or someone claiming to be affiliated with ISIS wants you to believe that they had something to do with it. That, or ISIS really IS claiming responsibility, whether they were involved or not, just to create fear in America.

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      • 180daysofkindergarten says:

        Exactly what my spouse said. We had an argument about it actually. The targeting of this specific college is the little detail I can’t quite disregard.

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        • Now, let’s think about that for a second…

          The Thalys train attack occurred on 8/21, and it was maybe a couple of days later that the background of Alek Skarlatos became known. Which makes it a little more than a month ago.

          Certainly, that’s not enough time for a group, any group, to seek out, recruit and radicalize a local, then equip him, and point him to the school. But it’s certainly plenty of time for a group (or agency) to manufacture a “Patsy”, isn’t it?

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          • 0Hour1 says:

            Portland Oregon is one of the biggest muslim populations in the US I believe there are several sleepers being called upon when the time is right

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            • 180daysofkindergarten says:

              I think you are right. I also happened to drive by Hall Rd. yesterday where a large Mosque is located. Then it occurred to me that there has been recently an increase in Muslims that is noticeable in the mall, on the streets. I’ve lived here a long time and the increase is tough to miss. It’s probably the burqas/

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            • What you say makes sense. Everything says that if this shooting is in any way related to Jihad Mercer MUST have been some sort of “Sleeper”. Was it mere “luck” that he was (as Diwataman seems to have discovered) a student at UCC? Or was he “activated” and told enroll at UCC after it became known that one of the men who thwarted the Thalys train attack had been a student there?

              Still, there’s always the possibility that Mercer had Muslim sympathies, but no real affiliations or contact with IS, and acted on his own. He MAY have selected UCC intentionally, knowing about Skarlatos’ prior attendance as some sort of way to create more notoriety for himself.

              It would be nice to know when he initially applied to UCC and finally registered for classes there. If it’s prior to the Thalys train attack, then his attendance might have been more of a matter of serendipity, rather than prior planning. If it was after Thalys, then that shows something a little different… something more directly related to Thalys, perhaps.

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              • Ann Inquirer says:

                It was reported in the EUtimes that Mercer tried to go to Syria in Sept. ISIS claimed him as their martyr on Twitter. We can be sure ISIS is mapping out every gun free zone right now.

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            • JT says:

              Oct 1 2005=Bali bombing

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          • woohoowee says:

            …including two US Marshals who just happened to be here in Roseburg, on an unrelated case, when they first heard reports of the shooting on the scanner. They raced to the campus and were among the first responders, perhaps preventing more loss of life.

            (my transcription starting at about 3:14 from link posted)

            ” NBC TODAY Show
            Christopher Mercer Identified As Shooter Who Killed 9 at Oregon College”

            US Marshals, eh?

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            • 180daysofkindergarten says:

              Wonder why they were in Roseburg?

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              • woohoowee says:

                No idea. Wonder if CRS people were already there, too?

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              • This whole thing is getting weird. MK-Ultra kind of weird. Every time I try to wrap my head around it, something new pops up that puts me back to square one. WHY would US Marshalls even respond to this kind of call to begin with?

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                • woohoowee says:

                  You’re a super smart person so I was kinda hoping you might point me in the right direction!

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                • 0Hour1 says:

                  Homeland security was filmed at his house on Fox local I believe he was on a list and they know it I am thinking there may be a cell of lone wolfs being activated

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                • 180daysofkindergarten says:

                  Are you familiar with Roseburg? It is off I5 south of Eugene, about 160 miles south of Portland and I don’t know about 120 miles north of the CA state line. Kind of the middle of nowhere although off of I5. The most famous Roseburg has ever been recently is the train terror attack and dancing with the stars. Unless there is a cell down there or some kind of camp it is not where you would expect Marshals.

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                • Nope. I’ve never been there, and know absolutely -zilch- about the area. But a place that remote would seem to be a perfect spot for the type of Muslim enclaves that are being talked about on other blogs.

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                • oldiadguy says:

                  Certain types of incidents result in all law enforcement agencies (local, state and Federal) in the area to respond. Bank Robbery, Officer Shot, and active shooters are some of those types of calls. If the Marshall Service was conducting an operation in the area, there is a good chance local LEO’s were working with them. While the Feds can monitor local police traffic, it has been my experience that they rely on the local officers working with them to monitor radio traffic that may have an effect on their operation. Once the active shooter call went out, it would have been an “All Hands on Deck” type of response.

                  It would have been the same with ATF, but I have yet to hear if the ATF agents were in the area or responded from their regional office. Same with the FBI.

                  Take Care

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                • Thanks for that info. What you say makes perfect sense. After I made that comment I read that the Marshalls responded after hearing about it on the scanner, which makes more sense (to me) than thinking they were “dispatched” to that particular location.

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                • woohoowee says:

                  Any idea why there isn’t any word on what this guy was doing from 2008 until he apparently enrolled in summer (2015?) courses at the college?

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                • JeremyR says:

                  Same reason off duty firemen show up at a fire. There are times when every hand is needed plus a dozen more. I have stopped at various incidents and pitched in to help. Some times its just getting water to the guys directing traffic, some times its helping rip a car apart because the jaws of life is at another accident.
                  I once spent two hours fighting a wild fire with a volunteer unit, dressed in a suit and tie. Ruined the suit, the shoes and a few other things, but they had only three people there, and one was in a cast from his toes to his belly button.

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            • Reminds me of OKC. Two ATF and the bomb truck axle. “Lucky to be nearby.”

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          • Dems B. Dcvrs says:

            Not an attack on you. But picking school was kind of a no-brainer for this sickO.
            Only makes sense a mass murderer or terrorist would pick a gun free zone over say, gun range, police HQ, Capitol building, etc.

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            • Mikeyz says:

              The issue is the school that the National guard soldier that stopped the France jihad train attack enrolled in.

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              • I believe simply.. It was a attack, a muderous attack on American Christians, plain & simple.. As usual these people ( jihadist ) are coward POS.. They have no honor, no faith & are evil in the purist form. The execution of 9 young, promising lives.. Is beyond measure. My most sincere thoughts & prayers go to the family’s.

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  17. Habanero says:

    Guys, quit being manipulated by the NWO-controlled power structure of media and secret government. It is obvious that this entire shooting is another hoax meant to brainwash the freedom-loving Americans into further gun-control measures. There are no cell phone pictures of the crime? No video? The guy had a “MySpace” account with two contacts? He was big into Nazi paraphernalia, the IRA, AND he was bi-racial? He wrote a document praising Vester Flanagan? The pictures on the Mirror-UK show the police state apparatus pat-searching and controlling all of the innocent students, and even searching their bags? Nothing is left to chance with these people.

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    • I have to admit that there’s room for a metric ton of shenanigans and manipulation in all these things, if only two or three are in fact sketchy.

      Obama himself was a psy-op. It’s not exactly surprising that so much which happened under him seems like yet another one.

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    • smiley says:

      I’m surprised a hokey “manifesto” hasn’t conveniently showed up.

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    • manickernel says:

      It is kinda hard to video something when people are dying around you. You, and others like you, always looking for some evil government conspiracy are exactly like this nut-job that murdered these people.

      Sorry if you cannot see it. And sorry if my posting this offends any admins but it makes me sick when this stuff starts rolling around here.

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      • Habanero says:

        It’s not a matter of “looking” for the evil government conspiracy. Unfortunately, the evil is foisted on us. It’s a matter of being honest with ourselves about what is really going on and what the media is really telling us. We are headed for dark days ahead, and our media is lying to us through and through about…..everything. Yes, I understand your sentiment, and I don’t begrudge you for expressing yourself.

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        • LadyRavenSDC says:

          manickernel – I am with Habaneero – “I don’t begrudge you for expressing yourself.”
          It is sick making to even “think” we are being ruled by evil entities but Benghazi broke my resistance to that case of denial.
          Letting our vets die for lack of medical care? Evil.
          I will stop there.

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        • manickernel says:

          Apologize if I came off too harsh. I took your premise to mean the actual shooting was a hoax perpetrated by someone other than Harper-Mercer. That to me falls into the same vein as the 911 conspiracists.

          I do fully agree that not just the media, but other “official” agencies commonly engage in the management and control of information to the public. This shooting illustrates how fast various groups are rapidly seizing on an incident to push their own agenda.

          What is different this time, at least on a much larger scale, is how the actual facts are no longer being contained, but appear to have been modified. I understand LE wanting to withhold the identity if only so that they can collect valid information on a perpetrator prior to a lot of random junk being generated. The evidence left behind on social media is extremely important to those carrying out an investigation.

          What bothers me, a lot, is that it appears that same evidence was then removed. No twitter, no real FB activity (and in fact the only one profile on FB may be fake), and some bits here and there that either could not be removed or were missed. His MySpace falls into the category of either missed or unable to remove before the identity was released.

          I also feel that this “conspiracy” often arises from a belief in those participating that they are actually working for the public good. A lot of people believe that government has a major role to play in shaping and guiding our society towards a new dawn of social equality, income equality, racial equality, and internet broadband access equality. We call them liberals.

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    • LadyRavenSDC says:

      “There are no cell phone pictures of the crime? No video?”

      Is it just possible the story of shooting only Christians is a lie?
      Good ol psyops?
      And you’all will remember in Waco they did the same thing to the bikers….

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  18. His post on the BLM site, where he curses at Bernie Sanders, is now removed.

    It says ‘6’ comments but only shows 5 now. Compare it to the screen capture above. This is why you always screen capture

    https://www.youcaring.com/black-lives-matter-seattle-360828

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  19. 180daysofkindergarten says:

    Oh my goodness, look at this. Just another troubled kid, obsessed with guns who was also some kind of special ed. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/new_details_emerge_on_umpqua_c.html
    Thank you for all of the research. The narrative has been set. Just guns and mental illness.
    How utterly disturbing.

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    • smiley says:

      and they know we’re not buying this.
      did you happen to catch the smug look on Obama’s wooden face while he trudged thru his awkward speech last night ?
      he knows we know….
      he’s laughing all the way to the UN.

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    • woohoowee says:

      Notice that there is no mention of what this guy was doing between 2008 and when he enrolled for summer (2015?) classes?

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  20. Butch says:

    4Chan seems to be covering their own a*s and throwing shade towards the pro-gun conservative-republican crowd.

    And this guy an immigrant from the UK now? Is this correct?

    Just another beta-male pissed off that the world still loves actual heroes.

    And where did all the money come from to buy the weapons?

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  21. 0Hour1 says:

    Bingo they care more about a gun grab than what happened if Obama would of been president during 911 he would of blamed Christian Ideology and had us all take a moment to reflect

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  22. myopiafree says:

    This is incredible. (870 posts – a new record) A college prevents people from keeping arms for their own self-defense. Then a Jihadist, comes in, fully armed, and starts shooting Christians, in the head. No one has a weapon to shoot the Jihadist, but one hero charged him. (If he only had CC.) Now Obama says NOTHING. Now he wants more people to be disarmed?? So more professing Christians can be disarmed and shot in the head. A new record for Obama’s stupidity.

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    • Oregon constitutional law prohibits state funded colleges and schools from establishing gun free zones….. so the college and school administrations get around it by kicking any student or faculty out of the school for having a gun as it is against policy, not against the law.

      Criminally Stupid Liberals.

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    • Dems B. Dcvrs says:

      Notice Obama really didn’t care about Christians.
      It was all about him (referred to himself 28 times in 12 minutes), and his next political goal, disarming sheepeople for good of “the body politic”.
      Hitler is salivating over Obama’s Prada, while Moohammed is giving Obama High 5s…

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  23. coeurdaleneman says:

    Just learned that he was kicked out of the Army? (Chicago Trib)

    Been silent since now. To get that info at this late moment is beginning to put me into the camp of those with serious doubts about full federal disclosure. (If not worse.)

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  24. You might be interested to know that all schools in Coos county, Oregon (next county SW of Douglas county) went on lock down today do to a similar threat on social media. Armed police were at all schools when they were let out…. no incidents.

    This is eye witness. I’m retired and drive school bus for fun in one of the Coos county school districts.

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  25. Ivehadit says:

    What I find very suspicious is that twitter Shannon messing with Sundance…and how quickly and often Mercer’s social media have been manipulated…

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  26. 180daysofkindergarten says:

    The kicked out of the Army is in the link I posted above. Pretty cool, little over 24 hours and the narrative is solidly a special ed gun nut who was depressed. They are good. I am not even a conspiracy person but this one is, well, not terribly subtle

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  27. Dems B. Dcvrs says:

    Sorry to preach to choir…

    For those here who care one iota about Second Amendment, you need to take a pause from here and start defending Second Amendment on Lame Stream Media websites.

    Being I believe in Walking the Talk, I have spent most of today countering the anti-Gun crowd that Obama riled up with his Politicizing Prada ‘Call to dis-arm’ of yesterday.

    Current anti-gun crowd argument line is: Something absolutely has to be done. No more status quo. Doing nothing is tantamount to being as evil as shooters.

    For those who simply visit (aka read) – Remain silent at peril of your Rights and Freedoms.

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    • Mikeyz says:

      What are you going to say that wont get deleted off of lame stream media? They still are not showing his pic, when they should have it up next to Obamas. The guy was not born in the US another thing he has in common with Bath House Barry

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  28. dodo says:

    Is the teacher Jewish? Why was he shot in the head?

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  29. 180daysofkindergarten says:

    I posted that everyone in this house is getting a CC. I’ve had it. I don’t for one minute believe that these are isolated depressed nerds going off. If a family member happens to be in a gun free shooting spree I want them to be on the offensive. This is ridiculous, whether it is jihad or just president mommy pants trying to form a legacy, I do not want to personally be mourning a family member. Mourning the innocents from yesterday is enough!
    This is approaching “Cold Anger” or maybe it has surpassed it.
    Sorry for the rant.

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  30. “While left-leaning U.S. outlets have seized on Harper-Mercer describing himself as a “conservative, Republican” on his dating profile online, it has not yet been ascertained whether this was a reference to his Irish Republican views – which he shared with State Senator and Democrat big wig Ted Kennedy, and the scarcely conservative Republican”

    This is from Breitbart London : http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/02/oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-was-british-born-supported-irish-republicanism/

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  31. clash108 says:

    He was enrolled as a student in the class he attacked. http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article37316589.html

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  32. 180daysofkindergarten says:

    BTW, I think this was the first week of classes for the fall term. Oregon is weird, colleges start way late in September. Most school’s first day of classes was Monday September 28th(I can’t tell what UCC’s first day was). If you’re trying to wrap your head around a time line to other events that might help. Thursday may have been only the 4th day of class (or if it was a TTH class, the 2nd)

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  33. woohoowee says:

    Seems that there were some issues getting a storyline straight…

    -snip-

    [Sheriff] Hanlin was asked whether the shooter was a student at Umpqua Community College. He didn’t have the information at the time, but later updated a web page with confirmation Chris Harper-Mercer was enrolled there.

    The statement conflicts with what the interim president of the school said earlier. Rita Cavin said Harper-Mercer, 26, was not believed to be a current student. But some students said they took courses with him.

    Then there’s this…

    -snip-

    Stacy Boylan said his daughter told him the man “gave somebody a box, somebody who lived, and said, ‘You gotta deliver this.’ Somebody has a box. I don’t know what that’s about.”

    Law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation told CNN that the gunman handed his writings to a survivor, telling that person to give it to police, but the sources could not confirm the writings were inside the box.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/oregon-umpqua-community-college-shooting/

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  34. John Denney says:

    A nearby armed Air Force vet willing to attack the attacker was prevented from doing so by the school staff.

    http://www.infowars.com/armed-air-force-vet-was-prevented-from-stopping-oregon-gunman/

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  35. Sheriff identifies nine killed in shootings
    The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office identified the nine people who were shot and killed in the attack at Umpqua Community College on Thursday morning.

    — Lucero Alcaraz, 19, Roseburg, Oregon

    — Quinn Glen Cooper, 18, Roseburg

    — Kim Saltmarsh Dietz, 59, Roseburg

    — Lucas Eibel, 18, Roseburg

    — Jason Johnson, 33, Winston, Oregon

    — Lawrence Levine, 67, Glide, Oregon

    — Sarena Dawn Moore, 44, Myrtle Creek, Oregon

    — Treven Taylor Anspach, 20, Sutherlin, Oregon

    — Rebecka Ann Carnes, 18, Myrtle Creek

    Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin also revised the number of those who were killed and injured in Thursday’s shootings. Ten people, including the gunman, were killed and nine were injured, but survived, Hanlin said on Friday.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oregon-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html

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  36. Meyer says:

    GoFundMe for Chris Mintz who took 7 bullets protecting classmates has raised more than $400K+ in 10 hours. Chris and donors exemplify the true American spirit!

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    • Meyer says:

      Just Wow! Chris’ GoFundMe account is at $745K!!!!!!!!!

      Read today that the ex-husband of the shooting victim, Kim Dietz, started a GoFundMe account. I thought that was odd for an ex to do. Well, that account is gone now and in its place is an account by Kim’s daughter . . . which makes more sense.

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  37. yohio says:

    I am hearing things to about homeland security being there which suggests to me he may have been on a list..

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  38. Aussie says:

    There has been mention of the case in Parramatta, which is a suburb of Sydney. This is another case of the facts that keep on changing. I find it odd that these shootings have happened at an identical of close to identical time.

    The latest on the Parramatta jihadist is that he was a 15 year old boy. Did you get that? I have no idea how he got hold of a gun because in Australia 15 year old boys are not supposed to be able to purchase a gun let alone be licensed.

    The man who died (murdered by the shooter) was of Chinese origin. He worked in the finance department at the police headquarters.

    The latest information only states that the shooter intended that he would shoot one victim and that when the police responded he would begin to shoot them.

    Parramatta is police headquarters for the police who go after the motorcycle gangs who just happen to be Muslim. They were the ones who closed down brothers4life.

    They are not saying how the 15 year old was radicalized. He was supposed to have been on his way to the mosque, but i do not know of one in Parramatta but there is one in the nearby suburb of Auburn. Either way, there are witnesses who claimed he was crying out Allah, Allah which I take was the usual war cry for these jihadists.
    These two episodes are very curious.

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    • JT says:

      “motorcycle gangs who just happen to be Muslim”

      And so, we do the math and see why it’s become important to make sure the Waco incident is out of the news and the US motorcycle gangs there shut down tight: to make room.

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      • Aussie says:

        I have no idea about those incidents because I am talking about Australia. I assume that the information is pretty much the same. Here in Australia the Comancheros are fun by Muslims and that is only one example of a Muslim run gang. These gangs also import various drugs including Ice.

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  39. Murse says:

    There is no way this guy identified as a conservative. Also, it is being reported that Mercer was on a terrorist watch list compiled by Russia’s FSB. The FSB attempted to forward it to Obama but they passed due to its not being “politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

    http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/

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  40. I know, it’s already been said, but THIS statement from Obama compels me to comment:

    The president says he plans to keep talking about the issue and “will politicize it” because inaction is itself a political decision the U.S. is making.

    He says it’s impossible to identify mentally ill people likely to perpetrate mass shootings ahead of time. He says the only thing the U.S. can do is ensure they don’t have an arsenal available “when something in them snaps.”

    Just think about that for a minute…

    The same President who couldn’t stop MILLIONS of people from crossing ILLEGALLY into the US now wants us to believe that he can take all the guns out of the hands of criminals and/or “mentally ill” people!

    How RIDICULOUS! The ONLY thing he can manage to do is disarm the citizens who would be STUPID enough to LET him do it! The criminals will STILL HAVE GUNS, and the rest of us will only be unable to protect ourselves. Gee, these Liberals are really DENSE.

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    • michellc says:

      I get that Obama hates and ignores the Constitution, but Constitution aside, gun grabbers are so stupid. When they snap they will kill with whatever they can get their hands on or with whatever they can build.
      I for one would rather their weapon of choice be a gun than a homemade bomb, with a weapon and as long as I stay away from gun free zones I got a chance of surviving a nut with a gun. It’s a little harder to avoid a planted bomb I know nothing about. That is what I worry about all the jihadists who would like to blow me up.

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  41. Les says:

    I only want to know if this was an Islamic attack if it WAS such an attack. There is as much danger pushing one agenda as there is in pushing another. I want to know the truth.

    We can’t be offended at the murderer being referred to as mentally unstable as he WAS either emotionally disordered or high-functioning Autism. He graduated from the special school whether we like that fact or not and was kicked out of Basic a month in. The loonies get kicked out of Basic and it isn’t an easy thing to do, they have to document it and give a real reason. He either did something really bad or there was something obviously wrong with him for him to be sectioned out so early.

    Someone posted he always wore khaki pants and a white tank.

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  42. Ed Shaw says:

    Yet another psy-op?
    Twelve hours after Russian jets attacked ISIS forces in Syria.

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  43. e.g.g. says:

    Any time a black, or mixed black/white, or muslum does these things all information is kept quiet for as long as possible. It is never called terrorism or racist.

    When a white does these things the information can’t be released and reported fast enough.

    A black or muslim is mentally ill. A white is a racist and terrorist.

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  44. Barry says:

    The Oregon shooter’s mother is Black, the father is White, he is bi racial like Obama. Obama really feels for him. Read Obama’s book “Dreams of my father” where he is very much against bi racial marriages for the stress that it puts upon the child.

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  46. The EU Times claims that INTERPOL say the UCC shooter is an international terrorist with direct ties to isis…

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