Part 2: Hillary Clinton’s Ineptitude – The Libyan Fiasco Does Not Begin With The Benghazi Attack, It Ends There….

It is remarkable how laser focused people tend to be around Libya and Hillary Clinton. The focus is almost exclusively on the Benghazi attack which killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

The Benghazi attack which occurred on Sept 11, 2012, was a symptom of foreign policy failure; the actual cause of the policy failure happened a full year-and-a-half earlier in February 2011.

Part I Link – The Origin Of The Libyan Crisis

Part Two – An Administration Desperate To Catch Up

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Obama - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's NestAgainst two weeks of silence in February 2011, and a fawning U.S. media beginning to doubt their own beliefs in the administration, the White House begins damage control for their earlier detachment.

When Susan Rice skipped a Feb 25, 2011 emergency weekend U.N. Security Council meeting, the Obama administration was compromised in their ability to influence any real outcome in Libya.

Without the U.S. seated at the policy table the U.N. made two strategic resolutions/decisions which were brutally short-sighted.

The first mistake was a resolution banning the sale or transfer of arms or weaponry into Libya during the civil war.   On it’s face the ban might sound like a generally good idea;  however, in reality it was exceptionally self-defeating.   After all, it banned all weapons from entering Libya, including weapons for the opposition – which most thought would be needed for the “rebels” to defend themselves.

The second mistake was criminal charges brought about by the ICC (International Criminal Court) against the Kaddaffi regime.   Nothing tells a dictator to double down on his position like telling him you as soon as this is over we will lock you and your family up for life.

Essentially those charges filed by the ICC solidified the certainty that Kaddaffi would never compromise.   He was drawn to a bold position that either he would win the civil war, or he would die trying.    Losing the war would mean death or a life in prison – one of these was now certain.   So what did Kaddaffi have to lose by fighting?

This Security Council resolution highlights the emotional short-sighted outcome of most U.N. determinations.   However, historically the U.S. has tempered logic to the 6 nation table of stupidity.   But not this time.    This time, at the specific direction of President Obama and his policy team, the U.S. did not even participate.

Obama and Hillary - The French Foreign Legion

Sarkosy with Clinton - whatz weeth you americanz now

However, while the White House may have been annoyingly quiet, Hillary Clinton certainly was not.    This lack of synergy led to multiple instances where Clinton’s publically voiced opinion ran exactly opposite to the Obama administration’s position she was supposedly representing.

The international optic was a completely out of sync with the White House and State Department.  Sometimes embarrassingly so.

The U.S. government came under fire today for chartering a rescue boat for Americans stuck in Libya that is too small to cope with the rough Mediterranean sea.

Hundreds of American citizens were finally set to depart Tripoli harbour aboard the Maria Dolores, a small passenger ferry chartered by the U.S., trapped there by rough seas.

At the same time larger Greek and Turkish vessels have transported thousands of their own citizens to safety, crossing the choppy water to mainland Europe. (link)

The State Department was struggling with multiple plates spinning simultaneously.  Secretary Clinton was noticeably unprepared to handle the heavy lifting.   From the botched messaging, to the failure to evacuate American citizens from Western Libya, we watched as it almost seemed President Obama was enjoying Hillary being overwhelmed.

While Hillary had been trying to fill the February void left by Obama’s silence, another key player was working policy structure behind the scenes.

One of Obama’s little known advisors named Samanta Power began to play a more important role.

Power is the wife of Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein, in 2001 she was a foreign policy advisor to President Obama along with Denis McDonough and Tom Donilon.

Samantha Power Leaving White House West Wing

However, Power increasingly held a sway when it came to Libya, and her influence was soon noted with the introduction of the “Responsibility to Protect” Doctrine, or as it became known R2P.

Essentially her approach was to frame the possibility of defeat upon the Libyan Rebels in a similar venue as the historical Rwanda genocide.   The potential slaughter of the Libyan Benghazi uprising was framed around a need for Humanitarian Intervention.

Despite the U.N Security Council resolution banning weapon distribution into Libya, the broad outline of a reason for U.S. intervention became visible.    NATO would arm the rebellion and NATO would take action to “protect” the Benghazi rebels as Kaddaffi’s army moved ever closer to their weakly held positions.

Samantha Power - Susan Rice - President Obama - May 2011 during the decision to arm the Libyan "rebels".

Samantha Power – Susan Rice – President Obama – May 2011 during the decision to arm the Libyan “rebels”.

However, there was one big problem – WE HAD NO IDEA WHO THE REBELS WERE.  The administration had no idea what the ideology behind the Benghazi Rebels actually was.

Some analysts believe the administration actually did know, but chose not to recognize the rebels affiliation with al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood and arm them anyway.

Others, namely CNN analysts, said there was no real way to identify the ideology and we were just going to have to take a chance on them.

Personally I think there is profoundly enough visible evidence to state the administration ‘had to know’.


Because there were hundreds of on-the-ground reports from the region which accurately identified individually very specific people within the rebels as radical islamists.  There is no intellectually honest way to believe the administration did not know they were supporting al-Qaeda affiliates and the Muslim Brotherhood.   The signs were just too obvious.

Mustafa Abdel-Jalil  (Picture taken Feb. 27th)  Leader of Benghazi Opposition Council

Mustafa Abdel-Jalil (Picture taken Feb. 27th, 2011) Leader of Benghazi Opposition Council

One of the first signs was the very first Kaddaffi politician who defected from the regime and joined the rebellion.   Interior Justice Minister, Mustafa Abdel Jalil.

Within 48 hours of Justice Abdel Jalil surfacing as the first defector, and becoming the defacto leader of the rebels, it was easily identifiable his ideology was for a sharia compliant Libya.

But the reality of the “rebels” being al-Qaeda affiliated made things complex.  In essence the CIA and DoD knew if Kaddaffi fell the most likely scenario would be a rise of Islamic extremism.


The compounding problem was the massive stockpiles of weapons that were at stake in the equation.

If Kaddaffi fell, decades of weapons built up in hundreds of warehouses were going to be up for grabs.   Weapons that included surface-to-air missiles, MANPADS, shoulder fired stinger missiles and tons of mustard gas and WMD.

Kaddaffi had built up massive amounts of arms over a period of three decades as the worlds most notorious international terrorist.

Very soon those weapons and missiles would go missing……. and it was the retrieval of those missiles that led to Ambassador Stevens assassination later the following year….

…(to be continued)

In part 3 we will outline how Obama took us into an illegal war, who stole the missiles and where they went, and how Hillary’s specific action led to complete chaos in the region. 

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35 Responses to Part 2: Hillary Clinton’s Ineptitude – The Libyan Fiasco Does Not Begin With The Benghazi Attack, It Ends There….

  1. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    This is what happens when an uniformed citizenry selects an inept “community organizer” to be the de facto leader of the free world. His pre-election theme of “Hope and Change” was enough to coalesce the self serving interests of American minorities and Fabian Socialists to get get him elected, but he had no idea of how precarious the international political situation is. As a result, the world has become a far more unstable (and dangerous) place, particularly in the middle east. While the populaces of country after country fell under the spell of the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama (mistakenly) heralded the so-called “Arab Spring” as an awakening of freedom, when the direct opposite was actually true. The net result was a resurgence of Al-Qaeda and its affiliated organizations, at the peril of their populaces and the world as a whole. The damage he has done will last for decades.


  2. rashomon says:

    Obama always leads with arrogance, his nose and chin in the air, since, as he ofter reminds us, he is the smartest player on the planet. Valerie says so. It’s becoming apparent that his administration is full of people just like him, totally wound up in their own wonderfulness with not the foggiest about the realities they claim as their expertise. The O’s evil cabal, totally unaware that they are marching to the drum of, probably, the international banksters who always thrive during times of chaos and war.

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know the Middle East will never be at peace if extremists are allowed to take over. Whatever one thinks of Mubarak, Kaddaffi or Assad, they were well aware of the dangers of allowing the Muslim Brotherhood to gain a foothold in their countries to the detriment of other religions and secular interests. Obama’s praise of Islam and encouragement of Tunisia’s Arab Spring was all al-Qaeda needed to set off rebel terrorism on behalf of such domination in other lands. He seemed particularly unaware of the age old disagreements between the Sunni and Shia, which has destabilize the area since Muhammed died. Now add the importance of oil to the economic survival of Russia, China and the House of Saud as major players, you have power politics played out at its worst using the countries surrounding the Mediterranean as the battle fields and our American troops as the mercenaries. No wonder Iran wants a nuclear advantage.

    Not to mention, we have bumper crops of poppies in Afghanistan and record shipments of heroin from South America traversing those trade routes to buyers in Europe, Asia and America. The Middle East has never been less stable with so many having so much access to weapons of mass destruction — and at this point, do we REALLY know where they all are? Thank you, Choom Gang, for getting us to the edge of WWIII. Who wants to take on the international mess Obama will leave the next American president?


  3. Forrest says:

    Sundance, thank you for this insightful analysis (which is to be continued). I had intended to leave a New Year blessing for this blog since it is one of my primary sources of honest reporting on the internet. As with many others, my attention was drawn to the Treehouse through the outstanding reporting on the Zimmerman trial. However, my devotion was sealed by the continually insightful, grounded, and truly conservative perspective offered by contributors (and 99% of commenters). As such, I have read nearly every post and most every comment for the better part of 2013.

    Every conservative and Christian bone in my body knows that the truth is being masked or distorted by most mainstream media outlets and this is truly a REFUGE for those who are unwilling
    to be deceived. I recommend this site to all of my friends, a few of which are “coming around” to reality. May the scales fall from the eyes of many other patriots-in-waiting who are so easily misdirected from these very important issues. Thank God for this site and the family of contributors and commenters!


  4. auscitizenmom says:

    This is all so complicated and disturbing. I have trouble wrapping my mind around the whole situation, and I really want to understand. I wonder how much hope there is for those who don’t want to understand.


  5. scaretactics says:

    Thanks Sundance. I’m learning so much from these posts.

    I *despise* that photo of Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, and Barry. Power’s stance while looking at Barry just makes me want to vomit….like she is hanging onto his every word, his every nuance….when in fact he is so inept at leading that it scares the sh*t out of the rest of us.


    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I see something else in that photo, which I believe Rice and Obama posed for, and Power was not intended to be included. Obama and Rice both have their hands clasped, with Obama looking downward, as if in prayer (which is an impossibility because he doesn’t pray) while Rice feigns submission and interest. Power, however, is peering around Rice to get a better view, but standing away from them with her arms folded across her chest as if she is thinking “WTF? I can’t believe this farce is being staged for the public. He’s following MY plan!” -or- “This puppet better get it right. I TOLD him what to tell her, Is she able to stick to MY plan?”


      • rashomon says:

        You are right. It gets even more interesting when you realize who Rice and Power have as spouses. You might be interested in this article that slipped in during the holiday mayhem on the elite power structure:


        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Here’s something rather interesting, but unrelated to the topic of our conversation, provided by Karen Hudes:

          Mailing letters with 3 cents of postage might be a “fun” experiment.


        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Yes, that was a worthwhile read. Even a casual glance at the US and world financial systems tell us that there IS a group of people who are controlling the world’s economy.for their own personal profit. What else could explain that certain people, groups, and corporations *always* profit from worldwide strife? How could this be accomplished, if not through manipulation of governmental policies,staging of political crises, and the manipulation of currencies?

          To the virtually uninformed like myself, this all seems like a “Wacko Bird” conspiracy theory, but when a well credentialed insider like Karen Hudes comes forward and lays it all out, the focus becomes sharper and loses its appearance of “paranoid delusion”.


          • rashomon says:

            I know…somewhat like “Dr. Strangelove, Part II,” but my grandfather was a political junkie and hated the manipulation of markets that began with the Jekyll Island meetings resulting in the Federal Reserve. Such lectures I got around the dinner table! Heady stuff for youngster, but today I appreciate his knack of questioning everything the government does.


  6. hawkeye13 says:

    I read a “letter to the editor” in the local paper this morning that was about how Obama has done so many wonderful and great things… how ObamaCare will end poverty since healthcare is the reason for poverty… It made me want to vomit, someone that was that warped… of course, it could have been a fake letter done by the liberal paper also..


    • rashomon says:

      Bingo! When you realize that six corporations own most of the media around the world and those six are run by people not fond of individual rights, it becomes clear why our population has become dumbed down.


  7. pbunyan says:

    I don’t think any of the things that happened were “mistakes” or incompetence by the UN or the Obama regime. They wanted the Islamofascists to take over the oil fields in Northern Africa. All the lies told by the regime and it’s media are simply to cover for the fact that things are going exactly as planned. (Well, the Benghazi attack might have be a glitch, but a minor one that didn’t make a difference to the grand scheme.)


  8. peachteachr says:

    About 2 months ago, Samantha Powers said that she just wanted to acknowledge what a great citizen Jane Fonda has been. That tells me all I need to know about her ability to reason and make good decisions for our country.


    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Yes, I remember her fawning over “Hanoi Jane”… it told me a LOT about Samantha’s ideology, and loyalties.


    • rashomon says:

      I just about ruined by computer keyboard when I saw that! (I had to learn how to dismantle and dry it out — a two-day effort, I might add.) Of course, she also made the choice to marry Cass Sunstein, who’s 2003 paper on “Lives, Life-Years, and the Willingness to Pay” sets that standards for death panels. The U. of Chicago is filled with some strange bedfellows. How Milton Friedman survived there, I’ll never know.


      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Cass Sunstein promoted the concept of “Presumed Consent” that amounted to a policy of “We will take your organs for transplant into others, *unless* you have specifically stated otherwise prior to your death”. I guess he never considered that many people die unexpectedly, while still in good health, and would make excellent targets for “legalized organ theft”. Yeah, that was just an oversight on his part…


        • rashomon says:

          I hear the Chinese read that paper and set up a whole new industry with their excess population. ;^)


          • scaretactics says:

            I remember my parents being upset with me 30+ years ago when I bought the Jane Fonda workout book and doing the exercises in it. I thought my parents were *over -reacting* and being stupid when they said that Jane Fonda had “blood on her hands.”
            (Imagine teenage eye – rolling) .

            Well, my parents were RIGHT! I would never buy any book written by Jane Fonda or anyone else like her since I’ve learned what she has done.

            Two more examples : I used to love Martha Stewart. After her horrible comments about Sarah Palin, I threw away her books and refuse to buy anything with her name on it. Same goes for John Mellencamp.

            Bono (lead singer for U 2) has recently redeemed himself by admitting that capitalism works. It would have been tough for me to get rid of U2’s CD’s (yes…i still listen to CD’s 🙂 ) so thank goodness he had a change of heart.

            This is off -topic…I apologize….


            • rashomon says:

              I think your thoughts as a young’n only suggest how easy it is for people to get wrapped up by celebrity. Bono has redeemed himself (and I, too, have his CDs)!


      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Well, despite Friedman’s genius as an economist, he did have certain personal social viewpoints, such as the legalization of drugs and prostitution, utilization of a negative income tax to replace Social Security, support for gay marriage, and a self professed agnosticism. These may have made him a darling curiosity tolerated (or even adored) at U of C cocktail parties hosted by progressive liberals.


        • rashomon says:

          Dr. Friedman was such a charmer that the progressives seem to enjoy listening to him as much a conservatives. The true fun was listening to him debate, even when he was making points against his buddies such as Bill Buckley. Wonderful entertainment as well as intellectual insight. Unfortunately, most liberals just yell louder and call names, forgetting that such behavior *teaches* nothing.


    • doodahdaze says:

      It would be nice to get a pro- American President in 2016. That let’s out all democrat’s and some repuglicin’s.


  9. CarolinaCowboy says:

    I remember that it was said that Kaddaffi was going to sell his oil for gold instead of dollars, and that was what brought down the CIA’s wrath. Remember, we had made a deal with his that if he was to stop his nuclear ambision that he would be takeen off the terror sponcering nation list?


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