Trayvon Martin’s Own Father Was One of The people texting Trayvon about buying and selling guns – Researching the Names From Don West Delivered Proffer Hearing…. (multiple francining moments)

We’re working on figuring out why Judge Nelson wants Richard Conner kicked out ASAP. Using the “francining names” placed into trial records by Don West late last night we begin to find the unknown backstory.

From them we make a remarkable discovery.  Unbelievably, it appears Trayvon’s Dad, Tracy, was actually one of the people talking to Trayvon about buying and selling a handgun.      Considering the “conversation was mysteriously deleted” this appears to be a big effen’ deal. WOW.    [ *Sidenote* We could also use help with crowdsourcing on these]:

Communications about GUNS [24:22 on video]

      • Ronquavis “Qua” Fulton
      • Spoonhead Zach
      • Jay
      • Ron
      • Dario
      • Diamond (probably Rachel Jeantel) But not about buying

And THEN the THUNDERCLAP name [@25:15]

“FRUIT”

fruit 2

WOW – as in Tracy Martin’s nickname is “Fruit“. Yes, you are reading that correctly – Trayvon Martin’s Dad’s nickname is “fruit“.

fruit 3

Why does that matter?   Because during testimony about the exchange over gun purchases Trayvon was exchanging text’s with a person who’s nickname was “fruit”.

Yes, that means that Tracy Martin was texting his son, Trayvon, about buying and selling handguns.  Large jpeg image HERE.

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We also know “Qua” or Ronquavis Fulton who Trayvon was talking about buying and selling the .22 caliber handgun with [@24:22 of video above]:

qua

Ronquavis, seen here holding a Marijuana blunt, has other twitter accounts.  He goes by:  @_782,  @quakush  and also @quabolean

Also during the Proffer testimony Richard Conner talked about [@43:00] fight conversations with Lavondia (spelling uncertain) and with Michael French.

We already knew where Michael French fits in.   But we did not know he was specifically communicating with Trayvon over the Street Fighting.     French’s name reference can be found at the 47:00 minute mark of the same video. We also have a picture from prior research of Michael French taken with Trayvon Martin – Date unknown –  (Michael French is one in the middle).

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Of particular attention is the DATE of this fb post with Michael French (middle of picture) with regard to Rachel Jeantel testifying about finding out about the shooting.

Rachel testified she heard about the shooting on Monday through “rumors” because “she has some friends who go around his school“, meaning Krop Senior High School.   With Michael French posting about Trayvon’s death on 02/28/12 (Tuesday – night).

Coincidentally Michael French talked to reporters about Trayvon’s death in this Friday March 9th NBC report.   (The same date the lawsuit was filed to get the now infamous 911 call recordings released) :

[...]  Michael French, a classmate of Martin’s at Krop Senior High, said “he was smart and funny and he always kept to himself, too, so I know he wouldn’t start anything.”

French said said the incident happened because Martin was black, “and it was a predominantly white neighborhood, so he looked suspicious. So that’s probably why.” (link)

Also, At the :15 second mark of this video Conner reveals that Trayvon Martin’s phone was actually a part of Sybrina Fulton’s family account plan. Sybrina Fulton was the account holder.:

Meaning it was not, as previously stated by the Scheme Team, Tracy Martin accessing his own phone records on 3/17/12 which could have revealed “Dee Dee”. Another BIG lie.

Which begs the question: When Benjamin Crump passed out partial phone records to the media on 3/20/12, they included the name of the account owner as Tracy Martin. How is this possible on the printed detail if the phone was actually under the account of Sybrina Fulton?

Call Crump to the Stand. The State has put the TM phone and Rachel Jeantel into evidence. Have Crump explain as a rebuttal witness to Tracy Martin and the State’s own evidence.

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If you listen closely to the Richard Conner testimony you realize what he has found. The phone deletions were made around all of the attributes which would have affected the considerations in this case about character and reputation. Except for the porn pictures. The reason those were not found was because of how they were hidden in the phone. The person deleting would not have seen them as images and would have needed an application to understand the “bit” file which was password protected also.

Conner is outlining a very specific educated thesis that the phone was scrubbed of damning evidence after death. Meaning somehow a person intentionally removed, “deleted”, the data.

Obviously, Mantai objects when Conner is going there with his explanations – but the implication is crystal clear. If the state of Florida retained custody of that phone – then someone from FDLE, or in association with the chain of evidence, deleted the data.

THAT DELETED data was the data missing in the State’s discovery to the defense until June 4th. And even after that time, the essential summary of data, which was included in a written report, was devoid of mention to this specific data file of deleted evidence.

What does this mean? It lends to only one Occam’s Razor explanation: The STATE prosecutorial team intentionally deleted, the data, then delivered a partial file with the non-deleted data, then at the last minute before trial delivered the full data set, but omitted the deleted data from the written report summarizing the entire “bin” file.

Essentially, the State hid the evidence – and Don West has the specific understanding of how and who has falsely presented the manipulated information. They also falsely testified, pre-trial, to the data delivery and the process under which it was done. That’s what the Whistle Blower was trying to tell them – but was handcuffed in court explanation by the fact the Defense had yet to receive the manipulated data in the form the Whistle blower was describing it. It did not arrive until 6/4/13.

I have no idea how the Defense can, at this point, with this judge, get this level of deception to the light of day – it’ll have to wait until after trial. Unfortunately the date of the deletion cannot be clearly identified. If they do pursue it, and I hope they do, the evidence (phone itself) will have a chain of custody. That may narrow their search for the specific person. However, he actual download of the “bin” file probably does not have chain of custody – so while it may be possible to prove the construct of the deception, the actual person who did it may never be identified.

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197 Responses to Trayvon Martin’s Own Father Was One of The people texting Trayvon about buying and selling guns – Researching the Names From Don West Delivered Proffer Hearing…. (multiple francining moments)

  1. Facepalm says:

    Well that is good news for Trayvon. One of those gun purchases might have been legal if ‘fruit’ was involved.

    • dan says:

      what a bunch of criminals. Tracey is going back to the witness stand. Did Trayvon ax you to buy a pistol?

      • Facepalm says:

        It’s perfectly legal for a father to purchase a firearm and share the experience with his son.

        • sundance says:

          Yes, but how would it look against the backdrop of the Trayvon Martin Foundation, and their central tenet about gun restrictions and SYG eliminations, if Tracy Martin was all about guns with his boy Trayvon? It’s the optics and the lies.

          • dan says:

            its legal but given Tracey’s recent activism its also hypocritical lying.

          • FrenchPug says:

            I haven’t seen the texts from “fruit”. Were they planning on buying it legally?

          • Sentenza says:

            If one is an unlawful user of, say, marijuana, and answers yes to question ‘e’ on Form 4473, then one is not a legal purchaser of a firearm. If one answers no, when one completes the form 4473, then one has committed a federal felony.

          • AngieLynn says:

            This is an optic that needs cleared up, I’m sure your going to knock this one out the park…;0)

          • Big Jim says:

            Ah yes, the happy family, with everyone a college graduate, in college, or aspiring to college . . . in between fights, gun purchases, and getting high. I’m not very good at predicting business success, but it seems to me that the Trayvon brand has become somewhat tarnished during the course of the trial. The trademarked “I Am Trayvon” may not be quite the money magnet that Ms. Fulton hoped for.

        • dan says:

          its also perfectly legal to ax, why Trayvon wanted a gun. Wasn’t he St Skittles of the Hood and his father Dr Zeus The Wise and Pacific?

        • John Galt says:

          Didn’t Tracy say (and tell the cops?) that Trayvon didn’t know anything about guns and that Tracy didn’t have guns in the house. Also, I would want to see his NCIC before pronouncing any gun purchases legal.

          • This is the same guy that told both a magazine reporter (Esquire?) and 911 during a missing person’s call how ‘responsible’ his nephew was. Unsolicited. We then see the cousin’s texts about the night before how he was high as a kite (nice way of saying it) when Tray took a photo of him in Brandi’s garage. Blazing it up with Chad in the house. Letting tray ride the bus alone to meet Brandi. Leaving him alone with Chad when Stephen leaves.

            Of course, I read either in the state testimony or…no, I think it was another article that said (tracy’s comment) that indicated he was hinting that Stephen was still in Sanford later than when he really was. I can try to find it later today if possible.

            Oh, man – there’s just so much. It’s almost impossible to comprehend how this wasn’t exposed in court yet.

        • mung says:

          Not exactly. If the child is in possession of a loaded firearm the father is committing a felony. that includes airsoft and BB guns.

        • Elbowknee says:

          it’s legal, but only if a person gets the required permits and is not a convicted felon. Is Tracey a felon?

        • Iron Fist says:

          This depends on situation. If someone wants to be in possession of a pistol, legally, they must be under supervision of an adult legal to own a pistol themselves. A pistol is not legal to own or carry unless you’re over 21.

    • carol thompson says:

      nothing the Martins have done is on the up and up, they are scum they are shysters they are money grubbers, thieves and thugs…they should run and hide and not try and make that punk into something he isn’t…a respectable citizen, his texts prove exactly what he was.!!

  2. nomorebsplease says:

    The texts prove tracy did not drive tray to sanford and lead one to wonder if they lied due to him attacking the bus driver. It all took place the day of stephans tweet re that topic.

    That is more scary to nelson than anything else imho. Or to those behind the scenes. They do not care about the dead kid they care about the mom and her “movement” and his texts destroy that and reveal the parents as frauds. A lot can be lost if that happens. /2 cents i can be wrong

    Seperately, It also makes me question if bdlr knew of the texts during fake testimony to the state re driving tray to sanford.

    • blam says:

      And everything gets “lost”…….. the enire fraudulence goes if the texts come in ……. and that includes all who had a hand in creating the false narrative.

    • nameofthepen says:

      NoMore – Bingo! That part about the possibility of the reason for lying about Trayvon’s mode of transportation to Sanford (to hide/cover up an assault on a bus driver) makes perfect sense.

  3. nomorebsplease says:

    Why is tracy martin tagged there?

    • pow pow says:

      notice brandy green asking “bugg” to untag Tracy in the larger picture

      “Bug, you wrong for that, Tracy said remove them d(amn)… Pictures!” – Brandy Green
      6/15 6;23PM

      Some serious “scrubbing” going on. Picture from this year or last?

  4. nomorebsplease says:

    Forgive me as i just woke up. I should emphasize any effort to hide data is re the parents. So the path you are on is relevant to my point i just meant that the effort to impeach for any reason is for the parents, not tray. If what you have is ever proven you deserve a pulitzer and bunker.

  5. sundance says:

    If you listen closely to the Richard Conner testimony you realize what he has found. The phone deletions were made around all of the attributes which would have affected the considerations in this case about character and reputation. Except for the porn pictures. The reason those were not found was because of how they were hidden in the phone. The person deleting would not have seen them as images and would have needed an application to understand the “bit” file which was password protected also.

    Conner is outlining a very specific educated thesis that the phone was scrubbed of damning evidence after death. Meaning somehow a person intentionally removed, “deleted”, the data.

    Obviously, Mantai objects when Conner is going there with his explanations – but the implication is crystal clear. If the state of Florida retained custody of that phone – then someone from FDLE, or in association with the chain of evidence, deleted the data.

    THAT DELETED data was the data missing in the State’s discovery to the defense until June 4th. And even after that time, the essential summary of data, which was included in a written report, was devoid of mention to this specific data file of deleted evidence.

    What does this mean? It lends to only one Occam’s Razor explanation: The STATE prosecutorial team intentionally deleted, the data, then delivered a partial file with the non-deleted data, then at the last minute before trial delivered the full data set, but omitted the deleted data from the written report summarizing the entire “bin” file.

    Essentially, the State hid the evidence – and Don West has the specific understanding of how and who has falsely presented the manipulated information. They also falsely testified, pre-trial, to the data delivery and the process under which it was done. That’s what the Whistle Blower was trying to tell them – but was handcuffed in court explanation by the fact the Defense had yet to receive the manipulated data in the form the Whistle blower was describing it. It did not arrive until 6/4/13.

    I have no idea how the Defense can, at this point, with this judge, get this level of deception to the light of day – it’ll have to wait until after trial. Unfortunately the date of the deletion cannot be clearly identified. If they do pursue it, and I hope they do, the evidence (phone itself) will have a chain of custody. That may narrow their search for the specific person. However, he actual download of the “bin” file probably does not have chain of custody – so while it may be possible to prove the construct of the deception, the actual person who did it may never be identified.

    • nomorebsplease says:

      This is what i was no sure of – the state deletion part of it. Ty. What a tease. To think a family and star witness lied and will get away with it.

    • canadacan says:

      This is even worse than the Duke lacrosse team scandal, in my layman’s understanding. Trayvon Martin was under 18, would it not have been illegal for him to a possess a handgun in the first place. a minor detail at a time like this I know. the Martins and the Fultons live in a underground world where morality is a foreign word.
      This case is so many layers to it.
      It is like trying to peel an onion.
      Don west is not a young man, and I
      seriously fear for his health. driving him
      like this could put the defense team in

      more than one way Six Feet Under. I wasn’t going to comment and I should be

      asleep but I’m starting to dream about this case

      • auscitizenmom says:

        I got almost 3 hrs sleep, then woke up and couldn’t go back to sleep. I was worrying about Omara/West’s health, too.

        • justfactsplz says:

          Me too, I could not sleep. This is pure evil.

        • SickInSeminole says:

          I haven’t slept either :( I bet everyone from the state attorney’s office slept like logs. Hmph.

          Hugs to the defense tables!

          • nameofthepen says:

            SIS – I’m not so sure the criminals in the state attorney’s office are sleeping well at all these days.

            I suspect they are, (pardon ze pun), sweating bullets over how much of their egregious criminal activity already has been exposed so far.

            Remember, when TSHTF, criminals always start throwing each other under the bus…

      • J'hn1 says:

        the standard for handgun possession in Florida is 21 (IIRC, every state but Indiana where someone under 21 and over 18 may inherit or be gifted a handgun- some limits I don’t recall if immediate family or extended family may offer such a gift – even in Indiana purchaser must be over 21)
        Even if Daddy bought it for him, TM couldn’t legally “possess” it.

    • FrenchPug says:

      Sanford police didn’t have an opportunity to do it did they? Didn’t one officer say he knew tracy and asked serino for his phone number?

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      I still think that was a DOJ job. No proof but of all the players in this farce the most powerful have the most to lose and let’s face it, the White House is the most powerful. But that could be just me.

    • Pitbull says:

      Sundance — A plus detective work by this CTH team! None of this surprises me
      One centimeter. Personally experienced the same lying, cheating, felony tactics by This State. After I achieved the criminal exposure that you seek — I possess the one and
      only EVER ISSUED ( by a Bar grievance committee) finding of Probable Cause for malicious prosecution by a prosecutor who violated EVERY MAJOR RULE AND CODE OF CONDUCT THAT EXISTS, and the 52 members of the Board of Governors debated the findings of their OWN GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE for 2 hours and then threw it in the trash.
      The criminal prosecutor was re-assigned and GIVEN A 10 PERCENT RAISE AND A PROMOTION. He also got to learn from Pam Bondi in his new job. Consequences do NOT EXIST FOR THIS ELITE CLASS OF CRIMINALS !! Lower your expectations.

    • Sharon says:

      The power and influence of deception are almost beyond measuring.

      Those who are deceived are always the last to know, obviously, but sometimes it needs saying). It’s like a cloud of dark wrapped in a black fluff of black cotton. I’m reminded again that Jesus’ words from John 3:19-20 describe it perfectly: …this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. May God give you wisdom and safety today, Sundance.

      And the whiners who fuss at you, “Well, just tell us everything you know, SD. Why can’t you tell us….” Children who can’t deal with the stress of reality. I struggle with it myself most days…dealing with the stress of reality and the anxiety resulting from our own vulnerabilities is a CHOICE. Endurance, the willingness to endure, is a CHOICE. It’s not cute and sparkly. It’s a CHOICE.

      Those who can’t handle the truth they already have shouldn’t be whining to be given more.

      That is all.

      • nameofthepen says:

        Sharon, I agree. The fussing “whiners” give me the impression that, to them, this is simply a kind of reality-based TV show, and they feel petulant at having to wait for the next thrilling episode…

      • Judy says:

        God Bless Each of You and keep you safe and strong and open to more truth unfolding and the discretion to use it wisely as He directs you! :)

        • Sharon says:

          These truths are important for every individual, Judy, who’s engaged in the fight. I know you know that, and do surely appreciate your concern and prayer for those of us more directly affiliated with the CTH site…

          The business of discernment is so top-notch important. It’s not just a matter of “being right”….sometimes in the hullabaloo of being right about a thing, we can take positions and take actions that are not right, or wise. So yes, “the discretion to use..truth..wisely.”

          Another way of thinking about the same dilemma: we can sometimes go to seed in our concern about the specific will of God (as we see it) in a matter, and end up missing the general will of God (which will never be in conflict with his specific will). His general will includes matters of personal peace, walking in the light ourselves, being strengthened daily, etc. We take very seriously the business of taking care of ourselves, physically and spiritually and in all ways, as we stand in place in this fight, as should everyone who is involved in any way.

          There’s nothing helpful about freakout, short-term motivation that arcs high in the sky and flames out at the height of the battle. Nothing helpful or wise in that at all. Unfortunately, some will actually cheer the excitement of unwise escalation and dashing into things for which the groundwork is not yet laid. So it’s back to wisdom and discernment and, sometimes, standing against even our most fervent cheerleaderes and saying, “No. Not now.”

          Each of us (including you) must be willing to stand alone in this battle even as we seek the great blessing of standing together and fighting together for greater impact and effectiveness. God bless you, Judy. You encourage me today.

    • Chewbarkah says:

      Didn’t the TrayPhone take an unexplained trip to California early in the process? (Before it was subjected to Cellbrite analysis in NJ?) Unidentified parties in another state, high-tech machinations with possibly altered dates hard for attorneys and juries to even understand — seems a perfect set-up for sanitizing the phone with zero chance of anyone being held responsible.

  6. talkaftercarefulthought says:

    ..prosecutorial misconduct… mistrial.. state does not seek to retry… eveyone keeps jobs and corruption kept in the dark.. I keep thinking someone is going to try to create a scenario where it looks like a win/win.. obviously the only WIN to GZ would be that he was free.. but lets be honest his name will never be cleared and he’ll have to sue the hell out of everyone even if he is found not guilty..

    • judyt22 says:

      The corruption has been broadcast worldwide ~ it’s out there in everyone’s face even though everyone does not see it for what it is. It is “hiding in plain sight”

    • Chip Bennett says:

      Does something like this actually have to go before the jury?

      Can’t the defense file a motion for inquiry and sanctions, based not on the previously known discovery violations (had data in January, didn’t disclose until June), but rather specifically for the manipulation of the data? That would force Nelson to deal with the issue, and get it on the record – even though the jury would never see the content of the data.

      • cboldt says:

        The other part of not letting the phone data is is it allows Nelson to find, in the sanctions hearing following the trial, there was no prejudice to the defense.

        • Chip Bennett says:

          The other part of not letting the phone data is is it allows Nelson to find, in the sanctions hearing following the trial, there was no prejudice to the defense.

          Except, the defense can show clear procedural prejudice: the discovery violations, and the late date at which they received/found the data, prevented the defense from finding the witnesses necessary to authenticate the text messages (not that authentication to that degree is even required under case law).

  7. sundance says:

    At the :15 second mark of this video Conner reveals that Trayvon Martin’s phone was actually a part of Sybrina Fulton’s family account plan. Sybrina Fulton was the account holder.

    Meaning it was not, as previously stated by the Scheme Team, Tracy Martin accessing his own phone records on 3/17/12 which could have revealed “Dee Dee”. Another BIG lie.

    Which begs the question: When Benjamin Crump passed out partial phone records to the media on 3/20/12, they included the name of the account owner as Tracy Martin. How is this possible on the printed detail if the phone was actually under the account of Sybrina Fulton?

    Call Crump to the Stand. The State has put the TM phone and Rachel Jeantel into evidence. Have Crump explain as a rebuttal witness to Tracy Martin and the State’s own evidence.

    • michellc says:

      It would be nice if the jury could listen to some of the interviews these pieces of scum have given. The one that stands out in my mind at this time was when the police video of George arriving at the police station that was released. We now know at this point the Martins or Crump had their insider and Crump and parents make the tv circuit claiming this proves Mr. Zimmerman was not injured like he claimed and murdered this boy.

      BTW didn’t Cripdad tell the police that his angel was unfamiliar with guns and neither parent had guns?

      • auscitizenmom says:

        Well, I imagine it wasn’t exactly a lie. He probably has a whole arsenal, but they are illegal, so he doesn’t have to mention them. Got it!

    • blam says:

      Excellent point! Just how is that possible….. hmmmm, certainly begs the question, what else was altered? It’s a thread begging to be pulled.

    • ctdar says:

      Being account holder of a phone, can Sybrina Fulton be charged with anything regarding the buying or selling of illegal drugs or firearms? By her paying the bill of phone she is facilitating the transactions.
      Is it an Obama phone? :evil:

      • maggiemoowho says:

        Also child porn, a few weeks back they said he had a photo or photos of naked underaged females on his phone.

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      I didn’t think of that aspect while browsing through the texts last night. How *did* they “find” RJ?

      I can’t believe how much detail you manage to keep in your brain, SD. Perhaps I just recoil at it and can’t stand to have it in my brain any longer than I must, but I can’t keep track of all the gang/pseudonyms/affiliations of this thug crowd. Hat’s off to ya.

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      Sundance: “Which begs the question: When Benjamin Crump passed out partial phone records to the media on 3/20/12, they included the name of the account owner as Tracy Martin. How is this possible on the printed detail if the phone was actually under the account of Sybrina Fulton?”

      Me: that’s easy. Documents are altered and faked by computer all the time.

    • FrenchPug says:

      Why would they lie about who’s name the phone is in?

      • nameofthepen says:

        FrenchPug – :shock:

        I think this might be a MUCH BETTER question than it first appears…

      • This is just what embezzlers do with financials, they make such a mess you can’t figure it out, and by the time you do, they’ve absconded with the dough. Looks like that is what will happen here as well.

    • diwataman says:

      Yep, that is a big one BUT I need to know for sure because he was a bit sketchy on that point.

  8. sundance says:

    My spidey senses tell me that Trayvon Martin’s phone was brought to the 3/16/12 meeting in Mayor Tripletts office. During the hours that Tracy and Sybrina were alone in the office post meeting – Trayvon’s phone was scrubbed and voice mails were cleared.

    Bonaparte’s testimony yesterday, and Bill Lee’s testimony on Monday, has given me more reason to think that’s exactly what happened.

    • talkaftercarefulthought says:

      well the phone would have to be signed out of evidence on that date wouldn’t it? Despite all the crime drama shows where evidence is just lying around I don’t think it would be that easy to just pick up the phone and take it out. I would hope that there was a record of the phone being signed out..

      • michellc says:

        Remember the meeting in the mayor’s office? It sounds like to me they were demanding what they wanted and having it handed to them. Is there a record of the 911 calls being signed out?

        • canadacan says:

          Michelle your second sentence -that’s it bingo- proper procedure went right out the window. the Martins Fultons were writing their own ticket.
          BGI Fix was in

        • canadacan says:

          Michelle your second sentence -that’s it bingo- proper procedure went right out the window. the Martins Fultons were writing their own ticket.
          BGI Fix was in

        • canadacan says:

          Michelle your second sentence -that’s it bingo- proper procedure went right out the window. the Martins Fultons were writing their own ticket.
          BGI Fix was in

      • Chip Bennett says:

        well the phone would have to be signed out of evidence on that date wouldn’t it?

        Watching this political persecution, what would make you think that?

        The more relevant question is: who in SPD, the city, or the State would be able to get away with removing evidence from custody off-the-record?

    • auscitizenmom says:

      Maybe that is why he looked soo scared. He looked angry and scared.

    • recoverydotgod says:

      Interesting…did Conner testify anything about voicemails left on the phone? Did Conner only examine the bin file, or was he able to examine the phone as well? In particular, the only way voicemails left after the shooting wouldn’t be on the phone would be deletion.

      Also remember the latent prints request on the phone that was cancelled in the 3/20-3/22 timeframe.

      pg 119 of 183 First Discovery

  9. ctdar says:

    Oh Geez (just woke up)
    Omara’s first words this morning
    “Approach….JOA????”

  10. sundance says:

    I’ve got to lay down…. I’ve been up all night mining through the late night testimony from yesterday. :( Hopefully I can wake up before the 9:00 am fireworks. In the meantime help spread the word about the information so far….

    There’s people far smarter than me who can mine more twists and lies from inside the truths of these evidencury hearings.

  11. Facepalm says:

    Someone please go through the cell phone data http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/zimmerman-defense-releases-trayvon-martin-photos-texts/

    and combine it with the testimony today by labeling who the conversations were with

  12. Lou says:

    if AC the grand schemer were smart she would allow JN to show texts in court. perfect opportunity to throw Tracy under the bus. are they scared of him? she could easily put a 13 year old behind bars, but they are afraid of Tracy. AC is afraid of real criminals.

    • strat4evr says:

      No Lou… Tracy and Sabrina became Angela Corey’s new best friends as soon as she was given this case. In return for being her political savior with the BGI she is utilizing all the power of the SA’s office to 1) hide the truth, 2) cripple the defense, 3) rush this case to the jury to insure the truth remains hidden. And I cannot emphasize the word “rushed” enough. Through this Judge, George Zimmerman’s contitutional rights to a fair trial are clearly being maliciously and purposely denied. I think Bonapart’s appearance on the stand yesterday made it very obvious that on 3/16/12 the unlawful persection began in full force with the construct of the narrative in place with support of the Sanford mayor’s office which included Bonapart’s first move to oust Chief Bill Lee. No surprise Bonapart got a big hug and thank you from the scheme team lawyers in the hallway yesterday after his testimony. No Lou… Not fear,,,Arrogance.

  13. Zenny Cellef says:

    Does android record when an application is installed? heh.

    • kikkoman says:

      Android itself – or the package manager – might in one way or another.
      There’s also the metadata information of the database created by the application. This database is handled as a file and thus contains metadata about itself.
      Messages (or whatever content) within that file are not files as such and it’s up to the app what info it stores about this content.
      This metadata contains, among other stuff:
      -Date of creation
      -Date of (last) modification ————–!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (mind you, this applies to any file on the device… this opens interesting lines of thought)

      That’s what I got from 10 minutes of parsing, so of course I might err somewhere here.

      For the geeks, more info here (esp. p.14):

      Reverse Engineering of the Android File System (YAFFS2)
      http://www.opus.ub.uni-erlangen.de/opus/volltexte/2011/2833/pdf/CS_2011_06.pdf
      (hope the direct link works)

      Ironically co-authored by a Mr. Zimmermann.

      • kikkoman says:

        I have to add that in any UNIK-like OS the timestamps CAN be altered (and therefore don’t have neccessarily to be correct), but – unless the app which creates and uses that database does that itself or some other app does it – I see a market here! — you’d need a console or some other way of low-level access to do it manually.
        Since the phone wasn’t even scrubbed thoroughly, I doubt the latter.

        (Sorry for that first sentence.)

        • caseyanderson2112 says:

          I think the porn was left because it’s very explainable. Young man, porn, no big deal. The rest of it flies in the face of the fiction they tried to create over the past 15 months, hence it had to go.

          Leaving the porn makes it appear to be a quick and dirty job but the fact that the database activity timestamps are missing or were never created at all indicates to me someone with a great deal of knowledge and all the necessary tools is at the heart of the phone deletion aspect.

          Or maybe I’m just being paranoid. Lord knows this case has me looking askance at everything.

          • kikkoman says:

            The way I understood it Cooper didn’t talk about the timestamps of the database itself, only that the database contained no information about when the items inside were deleted. Which is up to the application, not the file system.
            I’d ask him this question: When was the database in question last modified?
            Were any files (aside boot files etc.) modified after 2/26/12?

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      I am certain Android does have that data. Getting to it is another matter as it’s proprietary and I don’t think the data structure has been released for general use. I’m sure a legitimate law enforcement or judicial officer could get it but then one has to have the time to run the analysis, etc. It’s not as easy as it sounds.

  14. Judy says:

    Do I not remember the phone was placed in an evidence locker and that evidence locker was in a building next door to Brandi’s office? Wasn’t there an issue about some unknown person accessing it or was it just that it would have been possible?

  15. Jd says:

    It is not legal for anyone under the age of 21 or who is a convicted felon in the state of Florida to buy or own a hand gun.

  16. boutis says:

    Could these deletions have been done at any time during the bizarre chain of custody when this phone was being sent all over the country to supposedly retrieve data. It could have been sent anywhere out of custody (or have been intercepted) to delete it or move it within the phones memory. I frankly suspect something like DOJ directing this coverup and manipulation of evidence. This simply seems too complex for the Scheme Team but not for their enablers.

    • kikkoman says:

      Certainly within the realm of possibility.
      You could cross-check the timestamps (see my post above) with the chain of custody and look if anything was modified during that time (aside from stuff that happens simply by booting the phone etc.)
      But it’s a matter of time and resources, and after what happened last night, I have no idea how they’re going to proceed. We’ll see.
      It wouldn’t be the first time they don’t follow a promising lead (for whatever reason).

  17. Bill Palmer says:

    Qua Fulton’s alias is “Quabo Jefe Fernandez”. Here is a 2010 pic from his FB page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1078355817195&set=pb.1775269450.-2207520000.1373456204.&type=3&theater

  18. Yakmaster says:

    Morning Y’all. Don’t know if anyone else has posted this but Anderson Cooper showed long clips of last night’s afterhours hearing. 5 lawyer discussion on the fight texts and gun pics, the animation video in question, Defense team;s accusations of discovery violations, and Defense team’s exasperation over exhausting trial pace.
    The lawyers were mostly saying that since George didn’t know TM BEFORE the incident, TM’s prior behavior is irrelevant. (HUH?)
    And they are still lauding this Judge for sticking to her schedule for the benefit of the poor sequestered jurors. (pffffttt)
    As for the Defense’s anger toward Prosecution and Judge, well “trials are intense” and “everyone is tired” so “emotions run high.”
    (Could we get a new editor for their scripts? This tripe is gettin’ stale!)
    At least the word got out on CNN about texts, photos, and Prosecution trickery. Small victory.

    • John Galt says:

      “Defense team’s exasperation over exhausting trial pace.”

      I suspect that West knew about the case tweeted by Hornsby and put on an academy award winning performance of mental confusion brought on by exhaustion, which he continued to document on the record, even after Nelson was walking out. I previously thought that West was brilliant, but I am now completely awed.

      • ctdar says:

        Yes, with the clerk reporter still typing away…appeal #???

        • John Galt says:

          Yes, every experienced litigator has been exhausted during trial. But West turns exhaustion into an issue for appeal to assist his client.

          • boutis says:

            He should get medical documentation of his weight loss and exhaustion also. Especially if he has any type of underlying medical issues for personal and professional reasons. IMO.

    • tara says:

      The lawyers were mostly saying that since George didn’t know TM BEFORE the incident, TM’s prior behavior is irrelevant. (HUH?)

      That’s the normal handling of background info of the “victim”. (It’s hard for me to write that word for this case because George is very clearly the victim.)

  19. Bill Palmer says:

    Here is a 3/26/12 tweet referencing Tracy “Fruit” Martin:

    Christie Dale Smith ‏@BBALLR2 26 Mar 12
    East St. Louis Il. The hometown of Travon Martin’s father(Tracy “Fruit” Martin),Send out much love, support, praying that justice is served.

    https://twitter.com/BBALLR2

  20. Eric says:

    I know we have a public database to search for felonies in NC. With Tracy being a crip, what are the odds he was a felon and looking to purchase a gun illegally? Would someone care to help search for the truth on this with me? :)

  21. Tracey has always said he is not a gun guy. Does not own one and does not shoot. Said Trayvon would not reach for a gun because he doesn’t even know how to work a gun.

    Because of those statements, I’ve always believed that Tracey Martin in ineligible to own a gun.

    In truth, i will be Tracey has always owned a gun and his source is the informal market, “the street.”

  22. Unicron says:

    Why is it that after every other day in this trial, the NBC live stream on their site being available at the same address every time… reliably… and ClickOrlando.com’s stream always having a big prominent red banner on their homepage for their live stream… this morning is the first time the NBC stream isn’t available at that address, and the ClickOrlando had their stream but it isn’t anywhere near as prominent, harder to find now?

    Not trying to get conspiratorial but it just seems odd that on what is likely the last day of the trial, after the court finally started having some stuff coming out about Trayvon last night… and who he really was, albeit late at night and not in front of the jury… why is it that now they seem to be souring on covering this as much?

    Or maybe I’m just being crazy. If anyone knows an updated stream URL from NBC, I’d appreciate it.

  23. ArizonaHeat says:

    Just when I thought I couldn’t get more angry. This entire case reeks of collusion from the beginning. The alleged scrubbed phone paired with the secret mayor meeting has me boiling. Why isn’t anyone on the media reporting this?

    • caseyanderson2112 says:

      First clue: compare the concentration of melanin in the epidermis of the primary and secondary players.

  24. TC says:

    Makes me wonder if TM really did have a pistol in his waistband when he initially approached GZ’s truck at the clubhouse. After sizing up GZ, he could have stashed the pistol back at Brandy’s place before running back to confront George. Too bad the cops didn’t search Brandy’s place that night…

    • John Galt says:

      It would explain Chad’s 9 phone calls and subsequent denial of any knowledge in spite of numerous flashing lights, etc.

    • misterdeedeebooboo says:

      Why have the gun at all if not to use on a creepy azz crackah?

      • nameofthepen says:

        MisterD – Just to play the “what if” game:

        Maybe out in the street where he circled George’s truck, it was too exposed, he might be seen. So he decided he would beat the crap out of him instead.

        And here comes something I’ve always suspected: When George said, “he’s skipping”, I think Trayvon was doing a sort of “Crip-walk” there at the “T”, taunting/provoking/challenging George to chase him back into the dark.

        Maybe something like this:

        But, he had first dropped off his weed and gun(?), just in case something went wrong.

        All just guesses from me, though. :)

  25. LookBeforeYouLeap says:

    Regarding the evidence comments…TM’s WET shirt/hoodie was placed inside a plastic bag, which was then placed inside a paper bag, and then left like that for about a month. When they opened it, it smelled like rot and the DNA evidence was destroyed. TM’s shoes were stolen…what a shocker :-/ Hence the reason we have never seen them presented in court.

  26. DizzyMissL says:

    Is there a link to see all of the texts?

  27. libby says:

    My spidey sense tell me this is not the only place that can get a cease and desist letter (I bet omara and west got one, too)

  28. Unicron says:

    Wow, I just got around to watching how things ended last night… with West talking as the Judge walked out.

    What a vile woman…

    The railroad must go on!

    It’s almost enough to make you wish this jury would try to find him guilty of something so that the DCA could have a reason to get involved and smack down a lot of people involved in this.

    But I’m still hoping for not guilty on all charges. Maybe we’ll even get a verdict today?

    If she wanted an 8am hearing on Donnelly, etc… why is it about 9am and I see nothing going on on the trial stream?

  29. Yakmaster says:

    Question: Tracey Martin would have had to have TM’s phone in his possession in order to text or call TM’s good buddies about the TM’s death because the tweets referenced earlier are dated 2/28/12.
    So, he had access to password for getting into TM’s phone, right? Unless he had those phone numbers stored on his own phone.

  30. LookBeforeYouLeap says:

    Just reviewed the texts…the Judge stated that she couldn’t authenticate them because there wasn’t proof TM actually wrote them. There was anything saying “hey this is Trayvon” ….well…yes there is…in fact….he types out his entire name….middle name included. See report 6a.

  31. Stormy says:

    they are in court and at sidebar…fyi

  32. judyt22 says:

    Sybrina must expect to testify today, she’s wearing black. Judge looks happier without the headband ~ could it be giving her a headache?

    • nameofthepen says:

      Judy, LOL!!!

      Or, maybe the headband was really a camouflaged shock collar, and the Corriepottamus had the control. :evil:

  33. Zenny Cellef says:

    Still blows me away that after Tracy Martin got home he didn’t bother to inquire about why all the flashing lights and police were doing just down the street.

    • dan says:

      he may very well have thought Trayvon had committed a crime and was playing for time so that Trayvon could evade arrest.

    • John Galt says:

      And Chad called 9 times and didn’t notice them either. Just jonesin’ for Skittles, I guess. :)

    • lepanto says:

      Is there any evidence that he got home when he says he did? When did the police finally leave the crime scene?

      • Zenny Cellef says:

        Well, it’s been said that the body was on the ground for 3 hours before they moved it. So that would make it around 10:15-10:30 I guess…. Tracy has said in interview that he arrived home around 10:30 to 11:00 that night.

        • lepanto says:

          And once they move the body, do all of the police cars with flashing lights go back to the station? Do they turn off all of the floodlights and flashlights? Do they take down the crime scene tape?

          • tara says:

            I remember an article in which Tracy told the reporter that he got home between 10:15 and 10:45pm. There was a live nighttime news report from the scene with a timestamp on it, I’ll try to find it. It makes Tracy look like he’s full of sh*t. No surprise there.

            By the way, when he filed the missing person’s report he told the officer that he had last seen Trademark at something like 8:30pm … but Trademark was killed at 7:15-7:30pm

            Tracy lies, then changes his responses when he realize that his lies are obvious. I think he and Brandy didn’t even return to Sanford on Sunday night. I think they went back on Monday morning because Tracy had to drive Trademark back to Miami.

            • nivico says:

              “I think they went back on Monday morning because Tracy had to drive Trademark back to Miami.”

              Drive TM back to where in Miami, though…?

              Mom kicked TM out, dad was for all intents and purposes homeless at the moment.

              Are we sure TM wasn’t sent to actually live with Brandy.

              • tara says:

                Well, we know he wasn’t sent to live there on that weekend because there was the plan to return to Miami on Monday. But maybe you’re right, maybe the ultimate plan was that Trademark would sooner or later be living in Sanford.

                • auscitizenmom says:

                  I think it probably should be stated, “Tracy said he was going to drive back to Miami on Monday.” They have lied about everything else, why not that, too?

                • nivico says:

                  we know what Tracy ‘told’ the police

                  but that isn’t saying much

                  According to the Esquire article, a friend of Tray’s that was interviewed for the piece stated that TM told him he might be moving and it was ‘a’ight’

              • nameofthepen says:

                Nivico, I doubt it. In another recent article, Sundance has shown that Trayvon and Tracy were both living with…(aaaargh, I can’t keep it all straight in my head) Tracy’s sister(?).

                Trayvon packed a bag for a week-long visit. I imagine he was expected to finish out his school year at Krop, and then would move to Sanford when Tracy did later on…

    • Sharon says:

      Flashing lights and police were a normal part of the context for his life, and as long as they weren’t looking right at him, he was relieved and wanted no part of it.

  34. Unicron says:

    When the judge comes in on a morning like this and tries to act extra nice and bubbly, it’s just a cover. I’m veeeery familiar with this type of stuff.

    She’s still seething, but she wants to project that “they can’t get under my skin” when they totally can. She’s being a horrible person, but sometimes does a better job of trying to hide that.

  35. Unicron says:

    Big surprise, she ruled against the defense on the animation and on the texts… I’m just… shocked :|

  36. John Galt says:

    “From them we make a remarkable discovery.”

    To put it mildly. Between watching SD, Treepers and Don West work, I’m developing an inferiority complex. No wonder people are following SD around. He must scare the shizzle out of some folks.

  37. libby says:

    Actually, I dont want Justice for GZ (or TM). I want justice for all.
    .
    http://www.mlive.com/business/mid-michigan/index.ssf/2013/07/owner_posts_justice_for_george.html

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  39. Fantasia says:

    Wasn’t the testimony of Rachel that Tracy had hacked the password on Trayvons’ phone, and that was how he found out that was who spoke to him last? Crump also said that in a presser on video, then, it changed to he accessed phone records.

    How could Tracy hack the password on the phone, unless he physically HAD the phone? Wouldn’t it have been in evidence? Rachel and Crump both, testified Tracy called her Sunday night. He called Rachel first, then Crump.

    I have the Crump video link on yt, but I think you have it here.

    The presser the first day Rachel testified has Crump taking the credit for finding her.

    But, I still want to know how Tracy unlocked the phone if it was in evidence. Did they give it to him when he went to the PD to listen to the 911 tape the day after Trayvon was shot?

    Were the records simply available online, and Sybrina gave him the information?

    • auscitizenmom says:

      Nasty Jack said they hired a private detective to find the girlfriend. More lies. Just hard to tell if there is any truth whatsoever in anything they say.

  40. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    Exactly which text messages were attributed to “Fruit”??

  41. elvischupacabra says:

    Juicy Fruit = popular “ol’ skool” chewing gum.
    Juicy = “nice, sweet, juicy, big female Gluteus Maximus”.
    Fruit = a dude that likes a “nice, sweet, juicy, big female Gluteus Maximus”.

    • douglasjbender says:

      And here I always thought a Fruit was “a dude that likes a ‘nice, sweet, juicy, big male Gluteus Maximus’.”

  42. TZ says:

    Qua’s youtube channel is entertaining http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrFzbfVQeoU

  43. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    Since I don’t know exactly *which* texts are attributed as being to/from “fruit”, I can’t be entirely certain is Tracy was trying to sell a weapon to Trayvon, but I do believe that at least *some* of the texts which we believe are texts about guns, are actually texts about drugs. In particular, the texts that reference “some 38″. I not positive, but I believe those references are not about a gun, but are about drugs. But what does “38″ mean? Is it just slang for 3 eights of an ounce? Do the numbers 3 and 8 relate to their position in the alphabet, translating to the letters “C” and “H”?

    From a discussion of cannibinol:

    Brand name: Marinol
    Legal status: Schedule III controlled substance
    Formula: C21H30O2

    C H O

    380

    • TZ says:

      38 Special/glock 38
      plenty of 38 gun terminology

      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Yeah yeah, I know all of that, but look at the texts.

        See the one from 2/21/12?: “You know somebody with some 38″

        No one would say “some 38″ if they were talking about a gun. That would be like saying
        “Do you know somebody with some gun?”

        No, in this particular text, the conversation is about weed, IMO, not a gun.
        “You know somebody with some weed”

        Now, don’t get me wrong. From the some of the other texts it is quite obvious that Trayvon WAS looking for a gun, and someone WAS trying to sell him a .22. But I believe the “38″ reference is about weed, not a firearm.

        THAT was why I asked *which* texts are directly attributed to “Fruit.” I think that Tracy withheld the PIN for his T-Mobile account because he, himself, had things on his phone records that would reveal illegal activity, and his kneejerk reaction was to deny police access to his whole phone account. Remember, it he gave up the PIN, there would be nothing to limit the police to only looking at Trayvon’s texts and calls. THAT was what originally kept Tracy from giving out the PIN. Only later did he talk to Crump about it, and they realized that this left them to opportunity to prep witness 8 with the info Tracy got from listening to the 911 calls, and whatever other reports that were leaked out of the SPD by *sympathetic officers” (NOBLE). While the drama was unfolding about access to the phone, Sybrina was already busy either recruiting or prepping Rachel Jeantel to become witness 8, however that unfolded. This (in part) explains why Sybrina did not leave Miami, to come to Sanford, until the 3/8/12 presser with Crump, Julison, Cutcher et al. She was too busy in Miami, coordinating the “origin of witness 8″ (think Marvel Comics there).

        Maybe there WAS an earlier version ie DeeDee 1.0, and Rachel came later as DeeDee 2.0. Chances are, we’ll never know. But we do know that Sybrina laid some groundwork in her first statement to LEO when she mentioned that she had “started hearing her name around Christmas” (2011) but RJ later said she had only talked to TM after 2/1/12, after a hiatus of nearly 6 years. So WHO lied here? If RJ lied on the stand, say goodbye to any credibility she had left. If Sybrina lied, then you have to ask yourself WHY. Simple. She was trying to inject RJ as a “new” player in TM’s life, because she knew it might look fishy if his other friends said “huh? Who is THIS chick?” when RJ finally takes the stand. Problem was, between the two of them, they got the story mixed up.

        But, back to Tracy, and the phone records. At this stage of the game, and with the defense now in possession of the “official records” concerning Trayvon’s phone, I don’t see how it would be possible that Trayvon’s phone was on an account that was actually in Sybrina’s name, and not Tracy’s. If that were true, it would have come out by now, in some way, or another. And in an obvious way, not just some oblique reference like in the testimony we heard yesterday. No, (IMO) the phone WAS on Tracy’s account, and he was withholding access to the PIN for the reasons I mentioned.

        • Chip Bennett says:

          Yeah yeah, I know all of that, but look at the texts.

          See the one from 2/21/12?: “You know somebody with some 38″

          No one would say “some 38″ if they were talking about a gun. That would be like saying
          “Do you know somebody with some gun?”

          Without making any pretense that I know any of the colloquialisms involved, I would suggest that perhaps “some 38″ referred to ammo?

          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            Well, that’s a good observation, and something that had not occurred to me. “Some 38″ could refer to ammunition for a .38 cal, but look at the text sent (presumably in response) only one minute later:

            “Yea, 150″

            Now, I know that the value of certain things inflates the cost, dependent on need and the desperation of the client, ie: “whatever the traffic will bear” but $150 for a box of .38 ammo that retails (depending on specific loads and manufacturer) for $20 – $30 for a box of 50??

            You have to admit that this is a stretch of the imagination

            • Chip Bennett says:

              “Yea, 150″

              Now, I know that the value of certain things inflates the cost, dependent on need and the desperation of the client, ie: “whatever the traffic will bear” but $150 for a box of .38 ammo that retails (depending on specific loads and manufacturer) for $20 – $30 for a box of 50??

              You have to admit that this is a stretch of the imagination

              “Do you have any .38 ammo?”
              “Yeah, 150 rounds”

              Could someone enlighten me if and how “38″ is drug-culture lingo?

              • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                Try looking here:

                http://www.theweedblog.com/list-of-marijuana-slang-terms/

                Thirty-eight Crack sprinkled on marijuana

                While it is MY opinion that “38″ was used to designate the alphabetic positions of the letters “C” and “H” (part of the formula for marinol as I noted in my original post, upthread), I think the actual slang usage of “38″ in these texts referred to marijuana, not crack and marijuana as this slang dictionary suggests, but I could be wrong.

                The biggest problem with understanding slang terminology is that slang has no universal meaning, and what is meant by the use of a certain term in, say, NY, could mean something entirely different in Miami Gardens.

          • kikkoman says:

            http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/report4.pdf
            Page 4: 2/21/2012 Sent: U wanna share a .380 w/ —(redacted)??
            (Same report, slightly different version here that states this exact message was deleted, page 8 )
            http://cbsmiami.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/cell-phone-report-1.pdf

            The redacted part was obviously redacted for a reason. Ammo? Silencer? OR: “w/ me??”
            But “.380″ is pretty obvious.
            The .380 ACP caliber is different from the .38 ACP (or Auto).
            And “a 38″ is pretty generic.
            It’s not like they didn’t write openly about weed, either.

            • LetJusticePrevail" says:

              “It’s not like they didn’t write openly about weed, either.”

              Really? It is VERY open, if you know what “fire ass og kush” is… just sayin…

  44. forensical says:

    I’m not sure Bertalan testimony is helpful. Could come off as giving GZ motive to hate suspicious blacks.

  45. crossthread42 says:

    Interesting Find…
    Docs: Justice Department facilitated anti-Zimmerman protests…
    Link—> http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/doj-provided-security-for-anti-zimmerman-protests/#ixzz2YfRBBw00

    AND

    Newly Released Documents Detail the Department of Justice’s Role in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests

    >SNIP http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/07/10/newly-released-documents-detail-the-department-of-justices-role-in-organizing-trayvon-martin-protests/

  46. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    Now, here’s another thought about Trayvon’s phone, the “Swype code” and the meeting on 3/16/12. I agree with SD that it is a very real possibility that the phone COULD have been taken to that meeting, since the FDLE was NOT in control of the investigation yet, and it still rested in the hands of the SPD and the 18th judicial prosecutror. THEY would have had access to the phone, from the SPD evidence locker.

    Now, we have postulated, based on the “CaT” tattoo on Tracy’s neck, that Tracy was a member (at one time or another, or maybe STILL) of the “CRIP” street gang. Also, we have noted that in pictures of Trayvon’s friends at Krop High, *after* 2/26/12 that several people in the picture appeared to be flashing a “gang sign” attributed to the “PIRU” street gang, which is a part of the “CRIP” family.

    Now take a look at the “swype code” itself, uncovered by Perry Kuhl, when he “cracked” Trayvon’s phone. The code, 7-5-3-6-8-4-2, when drawn on the keypad of Trayvon’s phone, is actually a 3 pointed trident, which is ALSO a “CRIP” gang symbol. I believe that is MORE than a mere coincidence, and evidence that Trayvon Martin WAS involved in gang activity in Miami Gardens. I also believe that Tracy Martin would be aware of this. Could THIS be how he was able to access the memory of Trayvon’s phone, and erase texts that could be used to incriminate HIM? (I have suggested above that Tracy may have been involved in illegal activity, possibly trafficking in an illegal substance.

    Now, Tracy might have known, or guessed, Trayvon’s “swype code”, because of it’s nature as a gang symbol, but Trayvon also had the application which Cooper mentioned yesterday, of which Tracy had no knowledge. THAT was why Tracy could have been unable to delete the pics on Trayvon’s phone.

  47. C.A.T. — this is also dynamite.

    From last night’s thread #5 (but typoed as 6 in the url)

    NifePartie says:
    July 10, 2013 at 12:17 am
    I believe there is evidence Tracy did influence Trayvon as far as being a Crip. In his text messages referring to his fights and beating someone up he spelled “bleed” as “breed”, Crips believe that saying blood or bleed shows respect to the Blood Gang (lifelong enemy of the crips), therefore the Crip gang is not allowed to say Blood or Bleed. Instead they insert C’s and R’s into the word to change it. This is why Bleed is spelled Breed in Trayvons texts. It was not an unintentional typo. This is a fact.

  48. nameofthepen says:

    This article just blew me away. Took me to a new level of admiration for the research and the courage which have been the hallmarks of this selfless crusade since Day 1.

  49. It doesn’t matter at this point who did it, what matters is they know it was done and “swept it under the rug” as the shyster lawyer likes to say. Great work SD. Tracy Martin should be the one charged with child abuse.

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