George Zimmerman will be on Sean Hannity’s Fox News Show tonight at 9pm. If you are watching please share your opinion in the comments.
(Huff Po) Sean Hannity has landed the first interview with George Zimmerman. Hannity interviewed both Zimmerman and his attorney, Mark O’Mara, for an episode that will air on Wednesday night. A press release said that “Zimmerman will open up about what happened the night of Trayvon Martin’s death and his experience in the aftermath of the fatal shooting.”
TVNewser was the first to report the news. It’s a definite coup for Hannity, though not an entirely surprising one. He spoke with Zimmerman off the record in April, when Zimmerman bucked the advice of his attorneys and got in touch with the Fox News host. Hannity refused to divulge the contents of their conversation. But he did say that he and his team had been pursuing an interview with Zimmerman for weeks in order to get “his side of the story.” He also conducted a relatively sympathetic interview with Zimmerman’s father.
Moreover, Hannity has opined that there might have been “some overcharging” in the case against Zimmerman, who was charged with second-degree murder.
News of the interview came a day after Fox News denied a report that Hannity had offered to pay Zimmerman’s legal fees. (more)
I would just suggest that ppl keep a notepad. It’s an hour show so until the entire video is available to view over and over, keeping notes will help for right now.
I’m recording it in case I need to go back and look at it again.
Georgie is looking pretty good with his new haircut and is answering questions pretty well so far. No awkward silences like some expected.
Hopefully they will have the interview posted here later. I do not have cable. Sorry if a duplicate, just getting caught up on the day. http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html
Thumbs up for Georgies new polished look. Definitely less menacing than the look he had on the night of the shooting with the shaved head and goatee. Who agrees?
GZ just said straight from the horses mouth. It was PUNKS, not coons, goons, boots etc.
Exactly !!! out of what we heard now in first segment that is one thing that stood out. He said when they played it at the police station it was clear he said “punks”. Yet, every time we hear it, it has been ambigous. Possible someone doctored the tape to help the charge of racial profiling? How does it go from perfectly clear to unintelligible?
The same way that the image of GZ’s head didn’t show any blood. It was a picture of a picture. With 3 dirty cops that Serino told the FBI about I would not be surprised if one of them had something to do with it.
well I hope MOM is picking up on all that cause damn if they were doctoring stuff, the whole damn case should be thrown out.
Someone doctor the tape? Say it isn’t so.
IMO he did well. Clear straight forward answers. MOM looked a little squeamish. When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.
Oh Lawd.
Not loving this.
Is he allowed to have a message to themMartin family. Does that fall into indiect contact. I’m worried, but he does look good, MOM looks like someone pissed in his wheaties though.
OK, so far I think he’s handling this well. I’m (somewhat) relieved that OM is sitting right there by him.
As a person who studies such things, it’s strange that Z and OM are sitting stark upright in straight-backed chairs instead of on that sofa.
He was not running but skipping even though you said he was running? George, think before you speak.
Yeah, he could have said picked up his pace or like more of a jog. Not racing.
I think he means “running” as in leaving. Like a person speed walking away from the scene of a crime.
This makes me so nervous. My gut feeling when I heard he was doing this interview was that it’s a bad idea. We’ll see how the rest of the interview goes. I do think it’s good for the public to see that he is a soft spoken ‘normal” looking guy, but it makes me so nervous — I would prefer someone speaking on his behalf.
So Trayvon was skipping after all lol!
Little Trayvon, skipping home with tea and skittles for Chad.
Yeah that is the image skipping gives.
Looks like he’s gaining some weight. Face looks fuller.
The good news is that this does not sound scripted so there is a certain authenticity to it. The bad news is this is not scripted so I feel very uncomfortable and scared about the things that he is saying. He can do harm with this interview … this is a HUGE risk that they didn’t need to take
agree as in the PROS could try and say INDIRECTLY speaking to family and try to revoke bond… SMH
“The good news is that this does not sound scripted”
Yeah except perhaps when the issue of Hannity paying for the defense came up. I thought George responded a little too quick as though he was expecting the question
and preparted for it.
Also, as a person who studies such things, anyone else get the idea that OM is *not* happy about this interview? He’s scowling constantly.
No doubt this was GZ’s idea all the way. It almost seems that GZ would do a better job defending himself than MOM.
He always seems to have that crappy look on his face. Kinda like he never wants to be there which is what has always bothered me about him. Passion, something he never shows towards George. Wonder if that’s the same look he has with other clients?
Thats what I was thinking also. The first time he spoke was when the money transfer issue came up and mom declined to speak on it citing Sellie pending case and possible pending charges against George
Shellie not Sellie
George seems very confident
The “he wasn’t running” thing didn’t go over so well.
In the walkthrough he said TM was walking fast around the corner, so clearly he just meant he was trying to get away.
Someone who is actually arrogant and deceptive cannot, by sheer will, present themselves as guileless. Guileless does not mean perfect or mistake free: it’s a characteristic of being straight forward, not attempting to deceive. His self-presentation in these first moment has the characteristic of guilelessness. That same characteristic is what caused him to freely converse with the police the night of the shooting and cooperate with everything they suggested.
There are a couple hundred million of people in this country who grew up with the conviction that if we just tell the truth, everything will be ok. That doesn’t work when you’re up against those skilled in deception.
I agree 100%. It totally sucks that sometimes, the only way to defeat evil, is by stooping to the level of the evil doers. But wallowing in the muck of the unrighteous doesn’t make you unrighteous, it only strengthens the bars of your gates and blesses your people within you.
What happened to looking for an address?
Hannity is trying to maintain impartiality like another media prog stooge. Can somebody in the news media dare to reshape the false narrative that continues to be gain traction?
He does sound credible. This does not sound scripted or defensive at all.
He just described it exaxtly as diwataman did…regarding how the gun got exposed.
Perhaps One of the deals for giving FOX the exclusive is for the right for MOM to review it and have anything he wants edited out. (another reason for it to be pre taped) Some actors have that deal so how much more so a murder case defendant.
Yes, but the state can still get the original and use it against him. In the Sandusky case they showed never before seen parts of the CBS interview to the jury.
Richard Hornsby@RichardHornsby 15 min
#GeorgeZimmerman Prediction No. 1: The prosecutor will subpoena the entire 90 minutes of recording, not just what was shown on TV.
Of course, this is yet another version with more inconsistencies that the State will use to hammer GZ.
That goes without saying.
They can have it when we get the toxicology report and Tracy and Deedee’s cell phone record
That is assuming Hannity’s producers didn’t just “delete” any reel B footage.
When you see the multiple questions from Hannity containing elements that are risky to respond to correctly, you’ll notice the less risky element answer is in the video, then a quick time to the next question. This identifies “edit-outs” just as you describe.
This interview is mainly for the court of public opinion. Everyone should just chill a little worrying that GZ will by mistake have a tourette attack and say “I KILLED THAT NEGRO” it ain’t happening. GZ is well prepped and knows that all he has to do is say that he was in fear for his life and not mention that he regrets anything or would do anything differently and he should be just fine.
LOL @ “I KILLED THAT NEGRO”
Glad that he said clearly that the voice screaming was his voice.
It is just soooo unbelieveable that anyone could believe it wasn’t Georgie’s voice screaming for help.
I know, yet there are plenty out there who still believe that it must have been Trayvon screaming — including his parents and their lawyers.
I truly believe that, among the Trayvonites, his parents and their lawyers are among the few who know with absolute certainty that it was not Trayvon screaming. I don’t think they believe it at all.
You’re right. I think they know it was not Trayvon, and I think the prosecutors know that as well because they didn’t even try to counter George’s father’s testimony at the last bond hearing — and they certainly could have put either of Tray’s parents on the stand to say it was Trayvon screaming.
Still, there are a lot of people in general who probably do not follow the case too closely and who still assume it was Trayvon screaming on the 911 tapes. That is what I thought at first, and I was horrified at what that “boy” must have gone through before he was shot. I totally bought into the spin of GZ being a vigilante racist who took matters into his own hands and went too far. I was also suspicious of the SFPD and wondering if they were protecting ZImmerman for some reason. When I first heard that GZ was claiming self defense, I thought that was totally unbelievable I think my opinion started to change when the first pictures of GZ’s bloodied head and broken nose were released. Then I questioned everything the media had been saying.
While TM beating on George said he “was gonna kill him”, continued beating & than in attempt to shut George up from yelling tried to suffocate him with his hands. When TM saw the gun told George he “was gonna die tonight MFker”
His nervous chuckle type reactions to some of the questions is scaring me. That could be used by the gump team as disrespectful to the seriousness of the matter. Straight face Z! And for God’s sake, someone on that set remove the sweat above his lip! That denotes nervousness.
Yeah, the chuckle is bad news. I understand it’s a nervous reaction, and I could see remembering something so traumatic would easily provoke it, but it’s serious fuel for the fire on the other side.
Yeah, I think it is a nervous reaction as I have seen him do it in court…. Sometimes I smile the brightest when I want to cry.
Sweat gone!!!
I noticed the chuckle, too and didn’t like it either.
He is nervous, it’s human. He is sincere. MOM is very stiff.
Here’s the question I need to hear asked from Hannity: If you thought this man meant to kill you, why do you keep apologizing to his family which doesn’t want your apology and wants to erase you?
Following “Peacemaker” MOM’s advice.
He isn’t apologizing for shooting TM, he apologized for the loss of their son. He is a compassionate man. Not that TM family deserves the time of day from TM, just proves TM is the bigger person. TM family should show a little class and compassion for GZ and apologize for their sons criminal behavior and his injuries.
That was a naive move. TM’s parents kept asking 2 questions in the media. Did GZ know that he was only a kid? and they kept asking if GZ knows the pain they feel. So to put an end to their broken record interviews he said A. I didn’t know his age B. I am sorry for your loss NOT I am sorry I killed him.
Oops, I meant time of day from GZ. wow, bad error on my part.
He forgot the phrase “you do now” before the first punch
He wasn’t giving a word by word account of the event.
11m Brad Conway@justiceonwheels
The first part of Zimmerman’s interview is a disaster. This was a huge mistake which will come back to haunt both Zimmerman and his lawyers
Brad Conway? The Anthony’s attorney? Take what he says with a grain of salt
BC is still hung up on the passport, someone never gave him the cliff notes to this case.
LOL!
Ohh now on to racial profiling
S#IT- the God’s plan part is gonna hurt
Yeah, that made me cringe a bit.
Yeah, no bueno. I think the correct answer should have been “I wish things could have been different, but I was looking out for my neighborhood and I was brutally attacked. That’s reality, and no amount of wishing will change it.”
Everything is part of God’s plan. Strikes me that he is tired of being abused by the system and the media, and is standing up to set the record straight.
The only thing he could have said that would have worse was, “Sh1t happens!”
George is Christian, it is a natural answer for him. It’s the truth. Sybrina does not corner the market on Christianity.
Sybrina has made similar statements about God’s plan, purpose, reason etc…
“God is in control.” Sybrina Fulton
“At the beginning, Pastor Bryant was there to help support this family … telling them that God [doesn't] make mistakes and there will be justice,” Crump said.
“It’s so easy for me to cry right now, but I can’t because I have work to do,” she told the congregation. “I was forced into this position, but I believe God is using me.”
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-05-20/business/bs-ae-trayvon-mother-20120520_1_naacp-youth-director-pastor-bryant-congregation
“At first, I kept on asking why me, why Trayvon. But now I know that God has called Trayvon. He was chosen.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-shmuley-boteach/sybrina-fulton-trayvon-martin_b_1409832.html
I take it you may be unfamiliar with scripture. From 1Samuel chapter 2
‘.. they that honor Me, I will honor..’
Great comment; I love my children even though they aren’t born yet.
Love that.
Yes
I’m scared!
he’s going to deliver a direct message to Martin family? what? !!!! ohhhh boy
Wow wouldnt do anything differently- that took a lot of balls!
that won’t sit well with a jury
That’s my impression. He didn’t ask for any of this and he has been pushed to the wall and is setting the record straight. Brave man.
If he would have answered yes to that question, then he was not in fear for his. He answered that well.
exactly! the moment you go off the “I was in fear for my life” even 1 milimeter you are toast! So ofcourse he does not feel sorry for killed him because it was to save his life after he was being beaten. Of course he isn’t sorry that he had a gun, because had he not he would be dead. The gun took this from a one side fight of TM MMA pounding him to the ground to being the great equalizer and more.
If this interview was to happen at all it should have been scripted. This was a huge risk that they did not have to take. They have certainly given the state some ammunition that they didn’t have before.
Anybody know which channels the crumpettes will be on afterwards?
is it possible that Anderson Cooper will have the Martin camp response? just throwin that out there
I am certain that Sociopath Crump will be able to “spin out” yes more lied to “convict” GZ of something else – and then “feed” it to Corey so she can “dream up” some more charges. This process is ENDLESS for them.
Dan Abrams@danabrams
#Zimmerman says he doesn’t regret getting out of car that night and there is nothing he would do differently. Not a smart answer.
The truth is always the right answer. Abrams is a slug.
Well if he doesn’t think he did anything wrong why would he change the past?
When will Zimmerman say, “what the hell do you want from me? i’m the victim! me! my head was f— bashed in! what would you have done?! I’m being targeted as a political witch hunt! are you blind? is everyone blind? Are you kidding me, Hannity? You’re citing ‘stand your ground’ to me? you think that applies???? my head was bashed in!!!!! I’m lucky I”M NOT DEAD!!1 AGHHHAAGH!” —– that’ll be the day…..
GZ says TM said was “running” but TM not running just skipping? Maybe he meant he was loping? It did not sound good. I’ll need to watch it again, but it sounded like he was trying to downplay the question of whether TM was running away because he was scared of GZ. I think GZ was right in trying to explain that he didn’t feel TM was running out of fear, but it did not come out right. Again, I’ll have to watch it again.
He is emphatic that he was not running after him. He was also emphatic that he was not running when Serino asked him about it, too. It sure sounded to me like he was either walking briskly or trotting.
In a “quick statement” what do you say? ‘Jogging” This was a simple 911 call – running is a clear as it gets. But “jogging” would have been more accurate.
He’s so soft-spoken and polite, and even after all that’s been thrown at him, he can still smile! Story is consistent. Can do without these commercials!
This is a trainwreck. Corey, Crump & the Martins are dancing in champagne foam right now.
Nah, no trainwreck just honesty. He has been thru hell. He’s still going thru he’ll.
The “running,” which became “skipping,” comment was the train hitting a tractor trailer. “God’s plan” was it hitting a concrete barrier. It remains to be seen if it comes completely off the tracks, but it’s definitely damaged and on fire.
I winced when he said he had no regrets. He made up for it a little bit at the end when he expanded on what he meant. Skipping ? That was definitely a poor choise. That would have been a good point for MOM to interject jogging or hurrying away
I’m going to agree with trainwreck. The state doesn’t have evidence that contradicts his story so why give them ammo? I have been solidly behind MOM but this is a major screw up. I don’t think it is a disaster but def not good.
The state still doesnt have any evidence to contradict his story
Yeah Trainwreck I feel is too strong of a term here. George may have stumbled at a couple of points but he comes accross as a mild mannered polite individual
No train wreck, George leveling the playing field. This interview is his (HIS)first step in taking back his life.
Good for him
agree, especially talking about the threats against his life and never having returned home since the shooting.
The entire “God’s plan” part was absolutely a trainwreck. It’s been seized upon all over the media already. And when he came back to clarify, he said he was answering a different question – but if you rewind, he clearly wasn’t. Shuttle disaster, no. Trainwreck? absolutely.
I understand he was nervous and probably reciting the wrong part of the script. None of this matters if they get him off at the immunity hearing, which should absolutely be doable. Where this hurts is with potential jurors seeing the “this was God’s plan” soundbite repeatedly.
the media response is 1. predictable 2. inevitable 3. irrelevant
MOM is sitting there like a potted palm
LOL! Needed that laugh, Froggie:-)
So true Froggie, looks like the plant got to much sun.
Yeh think he would be a little paler, working so hard on the case.
http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/
Statement from George
Has this website been deemed truly GZ’s site?
There is a link to his real legal defense fund.
Coming up next….George Zimmerman has a direct message for the Martin family.
Why Is It that have this sinking feeling In my stomach?
Stay tuned for the motion to revoke bond. “Zimmerman continues to flout. . . .”
I have a question. IF there is a motion to revoke bond. SINCE there is a motion to recuse, WHO WOULD REVOKE THE BOND? LMBO sorry but that would mean wouldnt it that Judge Lester would have to do something right? I mean one way or other? They couldnt just bring in a judge to revoke bond could they? TIA
Notice he did not “venture a guess” about TM – that the kid was “high” on some drug, and probably “baiting” George. In fact the “mental state” does not matter (except to us). What matters, is that 1) TM stopped George, and out-of-the-blue – SLAMMED HIS FIST INTO GEORGE’S FACE – knocking him down. (Assault and battery). The proof of this almost can not be questioned. THAT would have put “me” in fear of my life. Then 2) TM jumping on top of GZ,and beating GZ’s head into the cement. (Attempted murder). Those are all the facts you need to prove justified homicide. The separate issue of TM’s “state of mind” – is seperate – but TreeHouse has developed a powerful analysis of TM’s attitude and agressive (paranoid) state-of-mind that led TM to attack GZ.
“SLAMMED HIS FIST INTO GEORGE’S FACE – knocking him down. (Assault and battery)”
And breaking his nose = aggravated battery, a forcible felony. The term “forcible felony” appears in 776.012 and 776.013
There was an expert on Nancy G tonight, explaining the effects of this K, or synthetic marijuana. It is an extreme drug and the featured story was this 74 yr old grandmother had shot her grandson 5 times, killing him. She wasn’t insane, but said he had taken some drug, and was so violent she shot him. The expert was explaining how this drug can cause the most violent behavior. I keep thinking TM got ahold of that while at the 711.
Oh good glad hannity brought up the black panther party bounty and spike lee tweets
And asked for an apology. Good for him! Class vs crass.
His response to Spike was nothing like mine. My husband just about fell out of his chair. The look on his face when I yelled out what I would have said if I was George….lol!
LOL, what did you say scuba?
woop question regarding w #9 coming up
Pretty good way to handle W9. Glad to hear from O’Mara. He says SYG definitely applies in this case.
Talking about finances and bail now. O’Mara intervening, mentioning that the state has hinted that Zimmerman has committed a crime like Shelly ..advising against speaking on this issue.,
MOM cut Hannity off w/bond questions.
WTF, citing perjury charges??!
MOM CYA, IMHO.
BIG time CYA from MOM!
Yeah My thoughts also
Said also was re Shelly arrest
Perjury vs. second degree murder?? PFFT!
The ONLY time MOM has stopped GZ. Very telling.
I noticed that. He jumped right in there on the money issue.
Gave GZ the floor, no objections … until the paypal issue.
Was he even awake the rest of the time?
Very telling indeed, sybilj. My overall impression – GZ is a good man, he is fed up and decided to take his stand tonight. Good for him. MOM is VERY stiff.
“MOM is VERY stiff.”
Deer in the the headlights.
MOM miscalculated Lester’s reaction to the paypal account, perhaps assuming local courthouse crowd protocol.
Not in Kansas anymore, Toto.
Yep, deer in headlights. Still find it Odd that the Judge and State knew about Pay Pal at the first bond hearing, April 20, and didn’t follow thru for an amount. Judge Lester never issued a specific ruling regarding him having any jurisdiction over those funds, either. Hmmmm…
Finally MOM says YES to SYG!!!! He must be visiting the Treehouse!!! (mom still gives me an uneasy feeling though)
Hmm..LOL whered my comment go? Ill try again, if it double posts i apologize
Georges site has been updated
http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/
Looks great.
Good move to resurrect the website. Especially since it was mentioned in tons of newspapers and links online.
This also sounds like a GZ move. Go George! Gzlegalcase.com was corporate looking and stuffy. This will appeal to a younger crowd and the average John Q. Citizen Good PR move.
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Excerpt from GZ’s site.
While GZlegalcase.com has been successful with some of these goals, for three goals in particular, it has fallen short. Where GZlegalcase has fallen short, this website will pick up the slack.
DISPUTING MISINFORMATION
As GZlegalcase.com found its voice, it became clear it wasn’t appropriate for the site, as representing a legal defense, to adress point by point all the misinformation at large in the media and online. On this website, therealgeorgezimmerman.com, we will be aggressively taking on misinformation in the media and online as we find it, and we will be correcting the misinformation with documented facts. It is important to note that the fact to be addressed are facts that surround the case against George Zimmerman, not facts associated with evidence or the direct case against George.
PROVIDING A VOICE FOR GEORGE
The GZlegalcase.com website has come to represent the legal defense, and not necessarily George himslef. Therealgeorgezimmerma.com represents George, and in as much, this website will be the proper venue for George to represent himself to the public and to make public statements. Part of this effort will involve providing a clear picture of who George is, what his family is like, and where he comes from.
RAISING FUNDS
The George Zimmerman Legal Defense Fund is managed by an independent party, not the defense team. While GZlegalcase provides a link to the defense fund and has on limited occasions solicited donations on behalf of the fund, it is not always appropriate for it to do so, nor is it the most effective venue for raising funds. For the reason, therealgeorgezimmerman.com will be come the primary venue for reporting on the status of the fund, for describing the need for donations, and for thanking the thousands of people who have contributed.
Bond Revocation and questions surrounding financial affidavit – MOM jumps in…… STOP.!!
Under the auspices of potential client risk. Well played.
But consider…. O’Mara knew…. Who is more at risk ?
Zimmerman is more at risk — the judge has invited the state to charge zimmerman with additional crimes.
So saying george “misled the court” also “George and Shellie apparently lied to the court”, also “my client misprepresented his finances” all of this AFTER bond revocation was ok.
But now that evidence exists, and I do mean EXISTS, that O’Mara falsely requested his client to omit financial disclosure information, NOW, that proof exists that O’Mara was in actuality the misleader, the liar, the missrepresenter,…… NOW, all of a sudden… it presents risk.
OK Gotcha.
I think MOM biggest fear is Mrs Zimmerman’s attorney. IMO
IMHO He should be.
You filter all information through your O’Mara hater filter. If there’s evidence that O’Mara lied, to the court and that George and Shelly were completely forthcoming, please bring it forward. In George’s own words, he decided not to tell his attorney how much money he had in the paypal account.
Zimmerman is facing 2nd degree murder charges and the judge issued a written order saying he thinks there’s probable cause to charge GZ with additional felonies. Clearly, GZ is more at risk than anyone!
Yes, you are correct. However, “hate” is too temperate a word. I despise in the most stringent of terms, intentional liars.
Do you accept your filters? Or is that too difficult an admission for you?
Exactly, O’Mara is responding correctly.
Yes, O’Mara was protecting three separate parties in that instance, two of which were in the room. I’m starting to believe that he is the one most in need of protection on this matter.
Other inmates are sympathetic towards Zimmerman.
can we give zimmerman a softball question for once? “What do you think of the reports that you killed an unarmed kid? Is that an accurate representation of Trayvon Martin?” —> I think Zimmerman would answer like this: Zimmerman, “well, yeah, he was a nice kid, he was unarmed, that’s probably pretty accurate.” Zimm, you’re the Rocky of Racial Profiling Justice. You just keep taking it, over…and over…and over….you sure can take a punch….but can you deliver one?
Just gave nice hat tip to the prison employees “respect begets respect” which he said held true. Also one time that a number of inmates saw George below in yard alone and gave him the “sign of strength”
What is the sign of strength?
He didn’t say but bet it was a raised fist
Daralene Jones @DaraleneJones
Going to have to re-read court order. Some of you are asking if #GeorgeZimmerman is violating order not to have contact w/#TrayvonMartin fam
39s Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq
@DaraleneJones We are re-reading the court order too.
6:46 PM – 18 Jul 12 via web ·
Told ya they would look and see if he can be put back in jail
The way this has gone, they should want him on TV every day. Twice.
Can’t you say anything positive?
Yes, I believe he’s not guilty and being railroaded. I just feel like this was a mistake. This guy is under a ton of pressure and he’s saying things that are going to be thrown back in his face. It’s not his fault.
Daralene Jones @DaraleneJones
Did you all see attorneys for #TrayvonMartin are re-reading court order, concerned that #GeorgeZimmerman comments may violate court order
Richard Hornsby @RichardHornsby
@DaraleneJones I think #GeorgeZimmerman is safe, he couched it in terms of “If given opportunity I would say…” It’s a conditional stmt.
Pathetic people. Compare them to George – class vs crass!
Beyond pathetic….vile.
This is well played…..this means that given the recusal motion, Lester could not rule. They would have to bring another Judge in, bring them up to speed, and then hope they are in the tank like Liester. Since the motion was filed, it gives them a certain degree of protection I think.
George’s defense: “Only white people watch Fox News.”
Oh for crying out loud, they need to get over themselves!
Their problem is that the judge cannot act on anything until he recuses himself…or…after it is appealed. He cannot take any action if he wanted to….he would be overruled on appeal.
Hahaha. Hannity: “The narrative ….”
“first of all I am an American, a Hispanic American”
I am an American
I loved it! George is a good man, a good citizen.
I just wish the judicial system would remember that fact. GZ is American, innocent until proven guilty.
No doubt, maggiemoo. The system should respect his rights. I note that George said (when addressing W9) he is thankful the FBI investigated. Here’s to hoping his rights will be respected from here on out!
Jorge Rivas@thisisjorge
@RoblesHerald Hannity is averaging commercial breaks every 6 mins. looking forward to see how much ads were going for
good ending.
Excellent — clarifying what he meant when he said he wouldnt do anything different. Wishes there was something that would have prevented him being in a position of having to take a life.
yes, glad he clarified. and adding he is sorry his action have polarized ppl. Well done.
I liked the apology. I beleive the interview ended well.
Strong Finish !!! Whew I can breathe now
Fans Schoolchoice and offers a cold glass of water
How much would that run under Obamacare…$1,085.?
Lol!:)
LOL plenty. Actually, that probably would qualify as work under the waived rules for Welfare.
Daralene Jones@DaraleneJones
Going to have to re-read court order. Some of you are asking if #GeorgeZimmerman is violating order not to have contact w/#TrayvonMartin fam
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16mDaralene Jones@DaraleneJones
Going to have to re-read court order. Some of you are asking if #GeorgeZimmerman is violating order not to have contact w/#TrayvonMartin fam
14mNatalie Jackson@NatJackEsq
@DaraleneJones We are re-reading the court order too.
If the Martin’s didn’t watch this, then what. I believe Lester meant “direct contact” . It would be imposible to impose “indirect contact”
Wow, what a bunch of rodents (my apologies to all rodents). Toss a scrap and they all come running.
If this is all those scumbags are talking about (whether the interview can be used to revoke bond), then it tells you that, overall, the interview will be a GOOD thing for George. If not, then don’t you think the Crumplestines would have been, “Ooh! Ooh! Did you hear what that racist killer said?!”
Zimmerman for President.
Howie for President!
He speaks very well, he’s very smart and doesn’t need a teleprompter. Got my vote!
Ditto for me.
All in all, I think the interview was a net positive for Zimmerman. Most important was his description of what actually happened and being in excruciating pain when Trayvon kept covering his broken nose, clarifying that he did not cotinue to follow TM after dispatcher said not to…and stating definitively that it was his voice screaming on the 911 tapes.
The Truth is the Truth. And thats the way it is.
hannity: any closing remarks? zimmerman: yeah, i’m sorry I caused all this mess. —> zimm, you are a human doormat.
Thinking about it. That is just what I would say. What more could be said? I am sorry. Perfect. Only a cold heart could not understand.
Your right, he is human and why stoop to camp TM’s level.
Not bad, not bad at all! Whatever else, he finally got to speak.
The judge and the idiots had to have known about this. Watch them feign outrage.
Side Note: I just keep going back to when he said his father had a heart attack 2weeks before the incident. This family is literally going through hell. Please say prayers for GZ’s father tonight!!
Absolutely.
Will say an extra.
You know that would be another reason to keep extra money, Not only did GZ have this bounty on his head and death threats against him and his family, he had to worry about keeping added stress off his father. It’s not like his dad could just get up and leave on a dime, heck he probably wasn’t even allowed to drive yet.
SDC, can you guys put a link on your homepage?
http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/index.php/help-gz
Is that even George’s real site? I would be leery donating on it
Yep that’s George’s site!
I’m leaving it up to Stella.
Good ending. I wish some of those statements could be redone, but we are where we are.
O’Mara needs to get him properly coached on public speaking. An honest look at the facts and an objective plausibility analysis would go a LONG way. I would say it would go far enough to change some people’s minds and would get him cut loose in an immunity hearing.
The facts are the facts, and O’Mara needs to hammer on them and get him out of this mess.
From GZ’s website:
Given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding this case, we have now realized that it is much larger than we ever thought regarding its extent and cost. We have been in hiding in temporary housing, and our security needs have been extremely high. The fund has been devastated by the need to pay $100,000 to a bondsman and almost $50,000 in security expenses. The skyrocketing legal costs have gone unpaid. The defense fund is at its lowest point since its inception; in fact, with outstanding expenses yet unpaid, the fund is near depletion.
I said earlier that this was all about fundraising. It must be super expensive to keep GZ safe and they lost half of their funds on bail.
George Zimmerman: What a nice guy. He would be a friend I could trust. If I needed help – he would help me.
I note also that there does not seem to be any rift between O’Mara and Zimmerman. If O’Mara’s comments about the paypal money were false, do you really think Zimmerman would still be sitting there with O’Mara at his side? Not a chance. Zimmerman knows that he withheld the information from his attorney, and he understands that O’Mara has a right to explain that he didn’t know about the funds. Zimmerman is not going to expect his attorney to take the heat for Zimmerman’s own deception and lack of candor, but he’s not going to stick with an attorney who lies about his knowledge of funds in a way that casts Zimmerman as dishonest.
Who controls his defense money?
I read an article about this basically it said a third party controls the money but the Legal Defense Fund is set up much like a Trust in that ultimately GZ is the one that has control over it.
Ultimately Zimmerman controls the money. It has always been that way.
Wrong. Look it up. or read the thread labeled “O’Mara knew”
I read it. Just because it is in a trust fund with a third party administrator does not mean that George Zimmerman has not access to it. Unless George Zimmerman created an irrevocable trust, at any time he can choose to terminate the trust and withdraw the funds. The account holds and administers the funds FOR George Zimmerman. And this is a much more appropriate way to hold the funds than to keep them in an attorney’s IOLTA account which is typically used for unearned retainers and very short term deposits of settlement funds.
M4…. Dude,…. really? Perhaps you might want to go read it again. FIRST, It is NOT in a trust for George Zimmerman. It is in a trust payable to MOM under the name MOM, NOT GZ.
Second. I guess “if” you read the post you must have read the part about the Florida Bar having strong reservations to this accoun structure, and sending him inquiries, ahead of court filings, seeking to force Mark O’Mara to disclose structure of the account holding and the nature of his relationship to the *IRS Accountant* in control of the fund itself.
So, this is OK… normal, nothing to worry about, etc etc …. from your perspective.?
I reread your post about O’Mara and don’t see anywhere in there where it says that the account is in O’Mara’s name or that Zimmerman has created an irrevocable trust. I also see that you are just guessing about the Florida Bar making inquiries about the structure. If you have something more than wild-ass guesses, put it out there. If what you’re saying is true and O’Mara somehow convinced GZ to irrevocably turn over his money and relinquish any control over the funds, now and forever, then I would likely agree with you about O’Mara — but all I see from you is guessing and speculation and nothing concrete that indicates that what you are saying is true
O’Mara reportedly said the fact Zimmerman’s family didn’t use the money to post his $150,000 bond meant they weren’t trying to hide anything. He said money was still coming in from donations, but said it would be placed in a trust that Zimmerman couldn’t access.
So I’m a LIAR – Got it.
Nice how you guys all stick together even to the extent that you stick your fucking heads in the sand to avoid the TRUTH. I just spent 7 fuckin’ days in Orlando and nothing written here is a guess. NOTHING!
So why don’t you put the information out there if you have it? I’m not calling you a liar — I’m commenting on the way you wrote your post. So what have you seen that makes you think the Florida Bar has sent inquiries to O’Mara about the structure of the account or that they are unhappy about it? And what have you seen that indicates that the account is in O’Mara’s name and that GZ has irrevocably relinquished any interest in the funds? If you have that information, spit it out — when you couch your statements in speculative terms, one assumes you’re speculating.
Holy crap. I have never seen you pissed off.
M4 you really are a dipshit. And you must be one hell of an idiot lawyer.
You think we are the only ones reading these pages idjit?
Agree, Thank You SDC
sundancecracker says:
July 19, 2012 at 1:05 am
You think we are the only ones reading these pages idjit?
I know for a fact we aren’t the only ones just for kicks I googled Conservative tree house and there is many many articles about this place. I read one today in fact that said the tree house was contacted in regards to witness #9 and M O M acknowledge being in communication with this site.
Ezekiel 11:1-3
People are People. Zim will be free in the end. Until tonite, because of the political battle I had not thought of the personal trauma. This is awful. Just awful. Uggghhh!
The last time he was in his home was just before he left for Target
almost 5 months ago
How sad is that?
Real Sad. It is a tragedy. The thing is that all the Political Bullshit overtook it. This interview was real.
Yes, it was and I give him a lot of credit for doing the interview and saying what he had to say. It needed to be said, and nobody else is doing it for him.
ctdar – not home in 5 months reminded me of Hannity prompting George about being alone in a hotel room when he was in hiding…my screen got kinda blurry during that exchange. Prayers up for all of them.
What would change your mind?
“If O’Mara’s comments about the paypal money were false, do you really think Zimmerman would still be sitting there with O’Mara at his side? ”
Yes, you seen it for yourself.
M4 is an attorney, who will never, NEVER, admit that another attorney is breaking the law or ethical standards. He just can’t do it….. They circle the wagons, hence he ducks and avoids specificity like the plague… It is what they do.
You’re completely wrong. I think Attorney Corey and BDLR have violated ethical standards. So why don’t you knock off the ad hominem attacks ok? Just because you see O’Mara with a conspiratorial eye and I don’t doesn’t mean I think all attorneys are beyond reproach and always act ethically. Far from it. I just think you’re wrong about your speculative conclusions about O’Mara. The fact that Zimmerman sticks with him and is doing interviews with him shores up my belief that it’s not O’Mara who lied or hid the information about the paypal account — it was Zimmerman. Zimmerman knows it, so why can’t you see it?
Because Zimmerman cannot leave. His bonding agreement with the Surety agent is contingent upon O’mara representation – and funny how Omara drew up the surety contract.
Second. Zimmerman cannot leave O’Mara because the structure of the defense fund places the fund Trust under Mark O’Mara’s name. Meaning that if today, GZ said piss off to O’mara and the trust was dissolved the check for fund balance would arrive at the law firm of Mark O’Mara payable to: MARK O’MARA.
So why can’t you see that?
Your turn !
SD it seems this has something to do with the collateral that was worked out no? Did Omara put up collateral and the structure of the agreement is to guarantee Omara he can recoup?
Was also thinking that GZ cannot maintain a bank account per the bond maybe this why its in Omaras name
Richard Hornsby@RichardHornsby 1 min
Lot of new followers because of #GeorgeZimmerman criticism, they’ll probably hate me once realize I still think he legally defended himself.
Hang with ‘em, Mimi:-)
LOL I dont have cable so I am reading tweets lmbo. Hornesby is talking in circles lol or maybe just me reading so much too fast
Never watch television, but my sweetie does. It’s never turned on when he’s not home, but I sure tuned in tonight! Much obliged for all the tweet updates as I don’t have a clue ’bout twitter.
I was watching baseball and never turn it off for anything but I did turn it off to watch Zimm.
Your MOST Welcome
bob kealing@bobkealing 4 min
Mark O’Mara told me the #Zimmerman defense could run upwards of $2 million. He’s hoping to generate donations from those who sympathize w/GZ
Anyone care to answer Matt Gutman’s question. He seems to be clueless.
Matt Gutman @mattgutmanABC
Why did Zimmerman need to call 911 immediately after Trayvon Martin asked him “do u have a f-ing problem” dont get that.
More gems from Matt Gutman. Isn’t Matt Gutman supposed to be an impartial reporter???
Matt Gutman @mattgutmanABC
Zimmerman “at that point, I realized it wasn’t my gun, it wasn’t his gun, it was THE gun.” doesnt explain the moment he shot Trayon Martin
Where is Ryan Julison? *crickets chirp* I wonder if Crump fired him.
Matt Gutman is a Dope. Who cares what he thinks?
Gutman is one of the main people in the USA who polarized America against GZ.
Only a very cold heart could believe in Matt Gutman.
“Matt Gutman is a Dope.”
You’re being much to generous in my opinion. I believe this goes way beyond being literally stupid or ignorant. In my opinion, pretty (metrosexual?) boy with a mic, and that is all he is, grabbing all the Fiat Dollars he can, and thinks money makes him smart. Soon to be another has-been I suspect.
George did well I though, very well, he did appear to be coached and there is other I saw, but will wait until the crumpster’s start their bellyaching. Technically and “other” factorsit was interesting from a production standpoint.
Omara looks etc will not matter at all to the audience that was viewing, those here thought will have had another viewpoint to ponder.
The “skipping” comment is going to be used, they need to clarify that as soon as possible. Really bad choice of words, unless he was “skipping” like a child which is how it will be played. I think he meant more like a person that played football would move, and being “jive” at George as he left. George said he was talking and gesturing toward him didn’t he. Backing up in a skipping motion raising his arms and then around the corner he went.
“George said he was talking and gesturing toward him didn’t he. Backing up in a skipping motion raising his arms and then around the corner he went.”
I think Z is a geek. Skipping, LOL. TM was Crip walkin’.
Ha! That’s a possibility. And I’m sure we’ll soon find out, because if the “skipping” is something like in this video, the Crumps will NOT wanna challenge George on that.
I thought GZ was effective in describing TM’s confrontation body language when approaching his car.
Yep seen it many times…. The confrontational stare and slow walk like ” what you lookin at?”
Wow. You got it. I saw one the other day at a Bus Stop doing it. I saw another one riding a bike and doing the strange moves while riding his bike.
everyday im shu–full-ing
Z was going to ask the cops to run an NCIC on Trayvon to determine if he had a f-ing problem?
Thats exactly what the martin side will do nitpick every little thing
Over the years, in many of these high-profile cases….the media gets it wrong
So wrong, they get sued…and usually settle for big $$ to keep from going to trial
Notables are the Chandra Levy case (where they claimed Gary Condit killed her…Condit cleaned up afterwards in legal settlements). And, the big one….the JonBenet Ramsey case…where the media is still paying John Ramsey for falsely claiming he murdered his daughter (mom Patsy died a few yrs ago). Never mind that a grand jury would not charge the Ramsey’s
Google the name “Lin Wood”. He is the pre-eminent attorney that sues the media for slander…and wins. GZ needs to talk to him
I still remember, during the Kobe Bryant rape case some years ago, Catherine Crier brought on this guy who claimed that the Lakers set up Kobe with the rape charges. Crier (a former judge) and her staff failed to research this guy…..for he was selling a PORN TAPE based on the case. That is how stupid these “TV Talking Head” lawyers are
There is a reason why Court TV is now TruTV.
“There is a reason why Court TV is now TruTV.”
Cause they needed a station to put on idiotic shows at night? Ha Ha ha
I think Lin Wood was the guy who Herman Cain hired.
I hope and pray that this is over soon. There is not one shred of evidence that merits George being charged. I wonder how many members of the Crump camp or even Trayvon’s parent would not defend themselves if they were being attacked. The evidence shows that George was attacked. Why would anyone think he should let someone beat him to death? I believe with every fiber of my being that George Zimmerman is an innocent man! I will never believe that George was the aggressor!
I asked this a ways up but so much is going on. IF the state files a motion to revoke bond (saying he violated by this interview in some way) Wouldnt that mean that Judge Lester would have to make a responce on the recusal motion first? I would think he would be the only one who could revoke the bond. They wouldnt be able to just bring in a judge for that could they? TIA
I would think so in a normal legal sense, but there has been nothing normal about this case in a legal sense, since the day Corey was brought in.
I hope the voters demand the GOP get somebody to run against her next time.
If they do I will personally raise Hell. This is past the legal system. It goes to the Heart. Mine says it is a question of where the balance is. Mr. Zimmerman has more Compassion than I do. So I must reconsider. He is the one paying the dues.
Daralene Jones@DaraleneJones 16m
Some are tweeting there’s been no response from #TrayvonMartin’s fam attorneys. Not true.They’re concerned this may’ve violated court order
11mcoreshift@coreshift
@DaraleneJones BTW, if motion to disqualify succeeds doesn’t that mean Lester’s previous orders can be challenged? Just wondering.
I don’t think “concerned” means what ole Daralene thinks it means.
I feel kinda bad saying this, but I long ago lost any bit of sympathy I might have had for the Martin/Fulton family.
I don’t really know if this was needed. He did okay and he seems like a honest person. However, those who believe him to be innocent are still going to believe him to be innocent. Those believing he’s guilty aren’t changing their mind and will nitpick everything he said. Those undecided I’m afraid aren’t going to be swayed to the innocent side.
He doesn’t show much emotion and granted I know some people can’t show emotion, but many are going to hold this against him.
IMHO this interview was a mistake, because it didn’t help him with public opinion imho and it’s going to give the prosecution something else to twist against him and when I say prosecution, I include the Crump and Martin gang.
I think it definately helped rehabilitate what the perception of him was from the rest of America and the undecideds who have been only seeing a one sided narrative of GZ so far. Namely this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3MKB91MyYQ
I’ve listened to far too many jurors over the years. One big thing you always hear is how they showed no emotion, no remorse, etc. George said the right things, but he strikes me as the sort of person who is cool, calm and collected when under stress. Not that it’s a bad thing. My husband is the same way. I know him and I know when he’s worried, sad, nervous, mad, etc., but others take it as he lacks emotion. If this was to sway the jurors of public opinion, I just don’t think it came off too well.
I’m trying my best to look at it through the eyes of someone who hasn’t followed it as closely as us.
I’m also worried that they’re going to use it against him and find something to twist around.
I think the risk way outweighed the gain. It will probably help on the donation end, because I went through the stages of feeling mad all over again at what they’ve done to him just for him defending his life to sadness and heartbreak for him and his family, but I’ve believed in his innocence all along.
The thing that worries me the most though is him saying he didn’t know that he had shot him for sure at first and that he didn’t know he was dead until an hour later. That will be used against him, it’s been used against people before not only in criminal but civil court. So you say you didn’t know this man was dead, but you knew you had discharged your weapon and with him lying there injured your first thought was for yourself and your wife, not calling an ambulance for this kid?
My husband has not been following the case, only what I’ve told him. He watched the interview and said he thought it was a good interview and that George came off very well.
I gotta disagree in part: I think this will definitely help with the fence-sitters. And remember there were still a lot of people out there who had stopped paying much attention after the initial few weeks; some people who are still stuck on the Mugshot George vs 12-yr-old Trayvon pics. I can imagine this interview causing a lot of those people to go, “Uh, what?! THAT is the guy they’ve been talking about?”
I thought this was a bad idea from the start. The State will use things like the running versus skipping comment against him. Each time he has explained what happened, there have been minor differences and this was yet another version in the eyes of the State. Who knows what he said that was edited out and the State will demand all of it. And the liberal media is already blasting him about him God’s will.
The fact that O’Mara cut him off from any answers about the defense fund did not go unnoticed. Of course, MOM was only covering his butt.
I did not hear any mention of his defense fund so I do NOT see how this benefited him in any way whatsoever.
I would have to go back to 7-11 tape to see if Martin wore his pants below his ass. If he did then I don’t doubt Zimm saw him skip. Not like a wizard of oz skip but more like a slight jump. Happens all the time to people who wear their pants below their ass. A lil jump while they pull up their pants and off they go.
He had to pull them up while he was at the checkout i remember- GZ was very adamant that TM wasnt fearful of him and that TM didnt run- i think this was a direct response to deedees testimony bc he knows that was all bullshit made up by Crump. I hope somebody questions Crump tomorrow when he goes on his little tv tour.
OK> While drinking a cup of coffee, reading your comment, visual of it > YOU OWE ME A SCREEN CLEANING
With regard to his cousin, Zimmerman said something like the only person interviewed who said he was a racist also said he was a deviant.
I thought that was a great response. Would a person who knows he’s “guilty” deny an allegation by refering to himself as a deviant on national television? Imo, no.
+1000
Exactly, he expressed moral outrage at his nutty cousin for her self indulgence.
George Zimmermans FB page linked on his site… https://twitter.com/friendsofgz
Shoot meant twitter
Daralene Jones@DaraleneJones 27 min
I was first reporter to dig up #GeorgeZimmerman’s past arrest. Found his pic b/c no one (not even TM’s parents knew what he looked like)
Does Daralene have a rap sheet?
Does Daralene want a star or something? A sticker? A lollipop? A parking place close to the front door?
“I was first……” good grief…..
Childish, maybe she has a connection to one of the leakers at the PD and State.
[This was updated, so I'm not sure if GZ name was published in the first draft....however, I suspect reporters had enough info if they would have put down the latte to do some legwork and find a picture by talking to people. There was enough info here to start finding a pic if you really wanted one. The pic she found, the mugshot from 2005? That was after Julison entered the picture I suppose.]
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/17374352/trayvon-martin-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation
SANFORD, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -
Investigators with the Sanford Police Department are still trying to figure out exactly what happened during an altercation which resulted in a fatal shooting in the Twin Lakes area. The shooting happened just after 7 p.m. Sunday evening on Twin Trees Lane. A man who witnessed part of the altercation contacted authorities.
“The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, ‘Help! Help!’ and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911,” said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
“And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.”
On Monday afternoon, a FOX 35 News crew met with Tracy Martin who said the victim in the shooting is her 17-year-old son, Trayvon, who was visiting from Miami.
“He walked out of the house to go to the store. He was going to the store,” she said. “He doesn’t know anybody here. He just came down here, so he was bored, so he walked down to the store. He was on his way back home. I’m living down here. He was sitting on the porch and this man killed him.”
Police said the shooter, identified as 25-year-old George Zimmerman, surrendered immediately. He has been questioned, but no charges have been levied and no arrest made.
Neighbors tell us that the shooter patrols the community at night and is a member of the Neighorhood Watch committee; however, police are not commenting.
Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/17374352/trayvon-martin-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz212gaIIwf
Go Hornesby!
Daralene Jones@DaraleneJones 47 min
Court order: “#GeorgeZimmerman shall have no contact directly or indirectly with victim’s family, except as necessary to conduct discovery”
Richard Hornsby@RichardHornsby 4 min
@DaraleneJones Let it go, this would not constitute indirect contact. Plus, still legally entitled to another bond even if violation found.
Retweeted by Daralene Jones
The rest of his tweets he acted like an a-hole nit picking everything and of course George was all wrong on everything.
Hey, Daralene – tell them to change the chanel. Duh!
Natalie Jackson@NatJackEsq 29 sec
@RoblesHerald “We must worship a different GOD because there is no way that my GOD wanted GZ to murder my teenage son.” Tracy Martin
Has some said that God wanted GZ to “murder” his son? I always love when people say “Well, MY God…..would or wouldn’t…..” There’s so much that is so goofy about that perspective, it would be hard to know where to start.
Has some said that God wanted GZ to “murder” his son?
Sybrina did, but she apparently “worship(s) a different GOD”. The money god?
“But now I know that God has called Trayvon. He was chosen.” Sybrina Fulton
Getting people stirred up over “God” will probably help donations for both sides.
Yeah and it happened while Tracy was partying the weekend away at the convention. Trayvon who?
Pssst, BigTM, but God didn’t know that your son was going to try and kill GZ, Dumb A$$.
My God thinks it’s a sin to be an adulterer, Mr. Martin. My God thinks it is a sin to bear false witness.
Amen! not to mention that anyone who truly believes in God’s plan knows that it frequently involves events that are unpleasant on their face
understatement!! amen
MINE TOOO +10000000000
OOH I guess this might be a cue for the “REVs” to show back up GAG
Is Tracy some kind of STUPID? His son ATTACKED GEORGE ZIMMERMAN. Because he was “high” and paranoid on drugs. TM thought he had the RIGHT to punch-out “Whitey”, GZ shot TM in self-defense. That is NEVER “murder”.
Dearest Natalie and Ms. Robles….
The wheat will be separated from the chaff.
Sorry, it just came into my head. God was pretty specific about how he wanted people to behave. TM, TrayMom and TrayDad have missed that boat as evidenced by their own words.
Did anyone else notice that when SH asked MOM if the 2nd Degree Murder charge was an over reach in charging, MOM, while answering in the affirmative, gave the impression (at least to me), that while 2nd deg murder was definitely excessive, other charges may have been more appropriate? MOM did not come out and say that…..but it’s the impression he left me with. I would have liked to have heard him say that no charges should have been filed in light of the fact that he said earlier (FINALLY) that SYG was definitely applicable in this case. Maybe I’m just too critical of MOM…..but I just thought his answer left the impression that he would have been ok with a lesser charge. Bleh.
I didn’t like how he kind of beat around the bush for 3-4 sentences, then finally, grudgingly, spit out his answer. Jeez. Show a little spunk, show a little enthusiasm in your client for pete sake!
Yes, I had the exact same thought. Can’t stand MOM
MOM is not in a good position to disrespect Corey in view of the paypal transfer fiasco.
Agree, MOM needs to be WAY more agressive. He’s tiptoeing and it has to stop! GZ should have never been charged, period. The PC Affidavit is a travesty. There is no evidence to refute BASIC self defense, let alone SYG. All evidence and witnesses corroborate GZ’s story. Get to the immunity hearing and get him out of this mess! There should be no jury trial. What a joke.
And yet he still has not exclaimed that George is innocent and 100 percent NOT GUILTY. Holy crap. What is wrong with this guy? No answer required.
yes
I thought the same thing…He doesn’t deserve a dime until he starts actually defending George instead of dancing around it.
Dancing around it is exactly the right phrase. From a strictly legal standpoint, MOM may have been correct to say (and I’m paraphrasing) “now that we’ve received most of the state’s discovery, it’s clear that they don’t have any evidence to warrant a charge of 2nd degree murder” (again, not his exact words, but the message is the same).
I realize that an attorney should clearly await discovery to make sure that there is nothing that “surprises” the defense. However, the purpose of an interview on TV is not to plead the finer technicalities of evidence to an audience of legal professionals. The purpose of a TV interview is to speak to the public at large.
In this case, where the public has heard so much spin from Team Crump, and where public sentiment has been molded by a false narrative, MOM’s only objective should be to paint his client in a favorable light and to shoot down lies by either countering them with what is known to be true based on evidence, or by stating that even though a particular subject or piece of evidence can not be specifically addressed at this time, it will be addressed at trial and that the facts will support the client’s innocence.
INSTEAD, we have seen MOM, with his bland, disinterested, dispassionate tone make statements that not only belie his firmly held opposition to the SYG immunity protection, but also lead the audience to believe that he had no faith in his client’s account of the incident from the get-go and he, therefore, could not make a firm and heart-felt declaration of his client’s innocence until he saw the evidence for himself. Thus you have statements like “my client is accused of a crime that HE BELIEVES he did not commit” and “yeah, they misled the court, but they were scared” (again, paraphrases ala moi).
Tonight we got the “yes, now that the evidence has come out, I believe a SYG hearing is in order” followed by a “yep, I think that 2nd degree murder was too big a charge”. Now….I’m not trying to sound all snooty or anything….but just who in the heck is MOM trying to kid? What is the unspoken message that he, once again, gave to the public???
Welp, the one I got was this, “I don’t really like my client. I don’t like the SYG protection, and I don’t want to use it. I’m gonna have to use it now, though, because I couldn’t find anything in all the evidence the state gave me to cause me to have an excuse not to use it. I do, however, wish they had charged him with manslaugher, jay walking, or anything else, though….because even though I just now got through saying that I think that SYG is applicable (and you know, legally that should have protected georgie from being charged with ANY crime), I still think I could have convinced georgie to take a plea on a lesser charge and could have come out looking like a hero to everyone. After all, I could have kept my court house buddies happy. I could have kept the race baiters happy…and HECK, they might have even given me a cut of all of their civil suit earnings. I could have convinced the Zimmerman clan that it was for the best, and everyone would have been happy.
But NOOOOOO…..the prosecution couldn’t give me ONE SINGLE WORKABLE piece of evidence to make this easy on me. NOW I have to do this the hard way and argue at an SYG hearing. Crap. I was hoping to avoid that. Did I mention that this is gonna be very expensive?? Well, if I didn’t, I won’t, because then someone might bring up the fact that I knew about that defense fund, and I already let georgie and shellie take the heat for that one, so I’m just gonna not say anything about how expensive it’s gonna be to have to try this case. I sure wish we could just plead this one out.
THAT’s what I heard. And that’s what his stoney look told me. But maybe that’s just me.
Yes! That is exactly how O’Mara looks. I truly believe he is being forced to do the right thing by all the exposure of the truth, and he absolutely hates it. The whole ‘system’ is being turned on its head and these lawyers don’t know how to handle it. It’s uncharted territory for ‘em.
I think the best way is with written motions. The laws and rules pre-exist the insanity. In the law binding precedents rule the day. The problems in this case seem to stem from the Civil Action and intervention of Politicians.
Richard Hornsby@RichardHornsby 3 min
#Zimmerman Prediction 3: I now believe faux apology to Martins could be indirect contact, State likely moves to revoke bond.
If that happens it will backfire.
Daralene Jones@DaraleneJones 2 min
One more thing. If you missed #GeorgeZimmerman interview. Turn right now to Ch. 9. If you’re not local, log on to http://www.wftv.com/watchlive
Weasel Zippers
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/18/video-hannity-interviews-george-zimmerman/
It seems that PR machine for Team Martin is latching onto the God comment as the official counter to this interview and are twisting it because they know that will get under peoples skin.
If you look at all the Trayvonite sites this is what they are focusing on. Even Tracy Martin released a comment only on that. Of course he probably didnt come up with it himself but someone from Crump Camp wrote it for him.
Looks like the MSM is also all about the God comment
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/07/18/zimmerman-i-m-not-a-racist.html
http://globalgrind.com/news/sean-hannity-george-zimmerman-fox-news-trayvon-martin-mark-o-mara-gods-plan-video
This site goes as far as to twist the headline to “George Zimmerman Says He Wouldn’t Do Anything Differently: ‘It Was God’s Plan’ For Me To Kill Trayvon Martin”
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/18/545791/george-zimmerman-says-he-regrets-nothing/?mobile=nc
Trayvon’s father responds:
Matt Gutman @mattgutmanABC
Zimmerman said “it was god’s plan”. Trayvon’s father: “We must worship a diff god bc no way that MY God would hv wanted GZ to kill my son.”
Just a thought, MAYBE TrayDad visited with “IF I HAD A SON” at The Rev Jerimiah Wrights church. How long til ya think ole JJ or AS make a new apperance, prob down to duh Mason haul
Yeah well Tracy Martin must worship a different God than me because my God tells me to raise my child as respectable human being who doesn’t go around talking like a Thug on the internet, doing drugs and God knows what else. Yeah Tracy you got yourself a great God! I’ll stick to George’s thank you!
Ya know I know a few parents who have lost children, couple in MVA and a couple from disease. So yes I feel in my belief, GOD knows everything that is gonna happen even before we are born. I know my friends who are Christians had/have hard time thinking that God knew their children/loved ones were going to perish, TrayFamily just cant talk out both sides of their mouths…. welll….Heck maybe THEY do have a DIff GOD ..
Well they talk out of one side of their mouth and the left side of the trash can.
A Statement from Trayvon Martin’s Family in Response to George Zimmerman’s TV Interview: Zimmerman said that he did not regret getting out of his vehicle; he did not regret following Trayvon; in fact he did not regret anything he did that night. In conclusion, he wouldn’t do anything different. He concluded it was God’s plan. “We must worship a different God because there is no way that MY GOD would have wanted George Zimmerman to KILL my teenage son.” Tracy Martin, father of Trayvon Martin.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/id5m20
Richard Hornsby@RichardHornsby 55 sec
Under norm circumstances, don’t think #Zimmerman’s faux apology is indirect contact, but prosecution hates him so much, they seek revocation
Good Lord.
It seems to me that indirect contact would be sending a letter or having someone act as a proxy and pass on a personal message…maybe a lawyer on here could clarify for us.
Hey, I really wanna thank you guys for giving the play-by-play tonight. I had planned on watching it myself, but at the last minute decided I couldn’t handle the stress…. of holding my breath for the whole hour just waiting for something horrible to happen. So I decided to, instead, just read the comments here. I’ll watch the whole thing later, but the “live” stress won’t be there as it would have been otherwise. Thanks all!
Sure thing.
I don’t know maybe they were pressing the buttons on the prosecution. Maybe the FBI is in Fl. looking into the civil rights violations and what good be perhaps collusion and other crimes committed by individuals with government positions and oaths. Maybe such a petty act as revoking bond over that enough to land them on the front pages.
All the national players are gone. It’s only those left in Florida doing this. Wonder if they didn’t get the memo.
I have a feeling you might be right.
2 interesting calls that GZ had while in jail.
One to Pastor Terry Jones, telling him to stay the hell home and not come and protest for him
http://global.christianpost.com/news/george-zimmerman-to-quran-burning-pastor-terry-jones-allow-america-to-heal-78490/
And a call about how GZ thinks that P. Diffy AKA Sean Combs stabbed him in the back. http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-jail-phone-calls-diddy-stabbed-him-back-trayvon-martin-video
Did GZ and his sister really think that P. Diddy would not jump on the ratings bandwagon against GZ?
“Did GZ and his sister really think that P. Diddy would not jump on the ratings bandwagon against GZ?”
Apology strategy not working?
BAHAHAHA Shugah is talking about the mother who is passing the trashcan and jetsetting across the globe!!!
Shugah@Shugah 9 min
First she buries her son and now she gets to watch an entire network fund raise for his murderer. Damn.
Retweeted by Natalie Jackson
Does Sybrina’s flat screen not have an “off” button? :::eyeroll”
I will say after watching him speak for an hour that is him on the 911 screaming no doubt in my mind. What bothered me was his response to Hannity when he asked why he thought TM covered his mouth Zimm answer was I don’t know. But then Hannity asked it again and basically put the words in Zimm mouth for him. I thought from the start the interview was a bad idea and I still do. It accomplished nothing really. Funny how Zimm lawyer jumped up when the bail thing came up. Other then that he was a potted plant.
Part 2 tomorrow night on Hanity.
Are you serious? Maybe they can do some damage control and clarify some of his comments.. like skipping versus running and God’s plan for starters.
Linda Kenney Baden @kenneybaden
Rule 1 – #GeorgeZimmerman- to his lawyer- on #Hannity interview #TrayvonMartin- Never sit next to client on media interview. Rookie mistake
I agree. MOM should have sat somewhere off to the side and let the camera focus just on GZ. In many similar situations attorneys sit off to the side and interject if needed. MOM barely had any need to interject anywhere.
I’m still trying to digest what I watched, so it’s kind’ve hard to form an altruistic opinion of the interview. Part of me wants to see Zimmerman say “F*ck this, this kid attacked me, and I defended myself!!” But the educated, reserved side of me understands that in dealing with the troglodytes that form the make up of our current society, one needs to be PC. And I found that interview to be very PC. George did a commendable job of restraining his emotions, as far as I’m concerned. As I have mentioned here before in defense of MOM, you have to realize that everything MOM or George say’s, has to be metered to the potential jury that may soon judge his fate. I will be going over this interview in the next few days and I will decide whether I liked it or not.
+1
Hal Uhrig came out with fists swinging and he came off bad. I have a feeling that we would like to see that and gun nuts would love to see that but a metered and calm response neutralizes Crumps comebacks and swinging back. That being said I am still mad at MOM for the way he has handled Judge Lester. I think MOM is just way over his head. He is a small town lawyer not ready for a big league national case.
I am judging MOM by each courtroom appearance I see. So far I’ve seen two. I think that if this case makes it to trial in front of a jury, jury selction will decide this case. Unfortunately, in our current legal system, jury selection is what it ultimately comes down to.
Hal’s impression of that Congress woman was priceless. I liked that he came out swinging and he supports SYG, he said it is a good law.
Hello everybody! I’ve been lingering here for a few months and finally thought I’d say hello
Hello back. Hope you enjoy your visit. Welcome to the Treehouse.
What a B1tch.
“Frances Robles
@RoblesHerald
I am curious to know whether if he carries a gun everywhere, does he carry a gun when he goes to mentor the kids on Sunday?”
What an agitator this Robles biatch is! Yes, you silly wench, he said he carries it EVERYWHERE except work, where their is probably a policy not to. What part of EVERYWHERE did you not get? Oh let me guess, GZ will now be labeled as a danger to kids because somehow his concealed and holstered weapon will somehow decide to shoot itself and kill a kid.
Just another disgusting slob that hates the US constitution and feels it’s her indignant right to change it. Ship her off to China or Syria and see if she changes her mind.
Just wonder how many of these “media” and Lawyer quacks have a conceal carry permit, lol or pack heat without?
Good point. I know for a fact that Corey the hut has her CCW permit and carries a 38. revolver. I saw an interview where she admitted to it.
I’ve tried asking anti-Zimmerman advocates what they would have done if they were in the same situation described by Zimmerman. I’m have never received an answer and never will, just a bunch of squealing and changing the subject. That pretty much is all I need to know. Corey definitely wouldn’t answer the question.
And behind the facade, she is actually “anti guns” which makes her being a Repubican even more bizarre as does her relationship with Scott and Bondi.
I would like to see a thread about Scott and what was behind his decision to put Corey on this case and then bypass the Grand Jury.
Corey the hut….LOL! I love it!
Yeah he does he tells them to look down the barrel and wait for the flash. Robles is a moron who knows way more then she should in regards to this case.
Trashcan passing part 2 has begun
Benjamin Crump, Esq.@attorneycrump 9 min
The family of #TrayvonMartin & I will appear tomorrow on NBC today show, CBS Good Morning & CNN Starting Point
Natalie Jackson@NatJackEsq 2 min
My thoughts after H’s interview: Once again, GZ’s own words & actions r his undoing. I’ll b tweeting some things that really stood out 2 me.
That is the one side effect of any type of PR campaign by GZ. It brings out Team Crump from under his rock for a rebuttal.
Crump likes it, it fills trash cans.
The Traybots are not exactly deep in cash. That well has run dry unless he’s going to start bringing an EBT card reader to the prayer meetin’s.
I didn’t watch, just no time, but read the whole thread. The reaction I would to see is how the general public takes it. It puts a person behind GZ name, and that makes it harder to attack him.
As someone said earlier in the thread, like it or not it was GZ choice to take back some of the control of his life.
For the life of me I do not understand why a reputable attorney would allow this interview at this time.
Whatever happened to that second attorney who was joined MOM to defend GZ?
West- he is still part of the defense counsel
How come we don’t see much about him? What exactly has been his contribution?
He said a few words in the second bond hearing but thats about it
Apparently he is the “investigator” of evidence. He appears to be doing the leg work. Interviews, discovery, etc. etc.
I notice he is does not have a public presence but he was the first one to mention filing a recusal motion immediately after the bond hearing.
His comments did not appear in all news report which I thought was strange.
Maybe MOM doesn’t want to be overshadowed (which wouldn’t be hard to do).
It was TPTB who set the media dogs on this in the first place. Perhaps they misjudged, and regret it?
Is this interview now their Obi-Wan Kenobi hand-motion + thought-command, “This is not the droid you are looking for.”?
Ummm from the justice for trayvoon site. TELL ME THIS ISNT INSIGHTING A RIOT> GOT SCREEN SHOT TOO:
Brotha Man: If Zimmerman is found not guilty at the end of the trial it’s should be 100,000 plus people bone rushing the court house and they should run up in there and kill him. Everytime he opens his mouth it’s like he’s confessing to the murder.
about an hour ago ·
I’m sure Holder will get right on that. /sarc
That guys site is pure THUG.
Bone rushing?? I think brotha man might be Crump..lol
I think the black community has a problem with the way that Trayvon was watched and profiled more than anything. So after that nothing matters to them facts be damned- bc any reasonable person can look at evidence and witness testimony and see that Trayvon was assaulting George. They are angry with the people that perceive them a certain way rather than be mad at all the thugs that commit all the crimes and create that perception
Totally agree, but to change that perception they would have to condemn some of their own and they are unable or unwilling to do so. Until then, nothing will change.
+1
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/bawa_no_deal_n5D91YJ6kJkpnN5AkpJ3YK
GZ was going to give an interview to Barbara Walters but she decided against it after he asked to be put up in a hotel for a month…I think that they are hurting for money.
I’m starting to think that the interview was not MOMS idea but he went along with it bc GZ demanded it. MOM needs to get control of his client. No more interviews…the state has nothing so he needs to keep his mouth shut.
While that is the right advice, I know personally I would not be able to hold my tongue while listening to lies that are put out. Specially since I did not do anything wrong.
At this point, I don’t think it matters what George says or doesn’t say. Crump and Jackson make up whatever they want to say about him and people believe it.
I think they are fighting over money and MOM wiped out his defense account for all his “hard work” Ha…hard work. That’s funny.
+1
Greta Van Susteren:
Fascinating interview by Sean Hannity — but what’s up with George Zimmerman’s lawyer????
The interview was fascinating …what I don’t understand is why in the world his lawyer allowed it to happen
“I am not the least bit critical of my colleague Sean for the interview (that’s his job) — but I sure don’t get why the lawyer for Zimmerman permitted the interview. Is he doing his job?”
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/18/fascinating-interview-by-sean-hannity-but-whats-up-with-his-lawyer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
MichaelSkolnik Twitter page. I guess this was live during the interview:
God’s @Proud2BAProblem
RT @MichaelSkolnik: I am not a lawyer, but it could be very interesting if all of his “messages” to Trayvon’s family violate the court order
Penn @Penn36
@ReignOfApril This seems really bizzare… first hiding the money, now possibly breaking the court order… @MichaelSkolnik
Cean @ARTCETA
@MichaelSkolnik Court order: “GZ shall have no contact directly/indirectly w/victim’s family, except as necessary discovery” @GZlegalCase
Some comments from the site someone mentioned above:
http://frederickleatherman.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/should-mark-omara-withdraw-as-counsel-for-george-zimmerman/
Frederick Leatherman says: July 18, 2012 at 9:32 pm
An intriguing question to consider is whether GZ’s efforts to speak to the Martin family via the TV constitutes a violation of the no-contact order that prohibits any direct or indirect contact.
momisbuff says: July 19, 2012 at 1:50 am
After hearing about tonights interview, I really can’t help but wonder if O’Mara is literally setting his client up. I can’t imagine O’Mara is *that* inept. He’s a bright guy. He knows everything GZ says can & will be used against him. He knows GZ let’s a lot slip out & should not be adding public statements … he also knows how to read a court order & *if* letting his client do an ill-advised interview, how to advise him what is not to be said. That GZ addressed the Martins, reading froma script, lawyer by his side, not edited out … I would almost say O’Mara knows it’s cheaper on their shared fund w/ George in jail & could lead to a new donation spike. I really can’t think of any other reason for this kind of fiasco & it’s why I thinkthis type of attrny fundraising is unethical activity the ABA needs to look at and addres very quickly.