2010 2011 2012
Drug Effect Forum – Low Dose DXM + Weed – Last night, SWIM suffered a very extreme trip off a very low amount of amount DXM, combined with a small amount of cannabis, and was wondering what could explain the reaction he had?
SWIM has used the same amount of DXM (around 225mg) twice before, the first time resulting in a high first / low second plateau with huge music euphoria that was great fun at a concert, the second time was similar except minus the euphoria due to huge nausea, off a mildly higher dose (300-400mg), and the third time.. this.
SWIM ingested 221mg of DXM in a gelcap, weighed in scales accurate to 1mg, hoping to experience mild effects and to pass the time at home. After about 1 hour and 45 minutes feeling nothing but a mild body buzz, felt like smoking 1 bowl of cannabis in a pipe, I got bored and knowing cannabis potentiates DXM (although not to the extent that I experienced), proceeded to smoke up about 3 bowls.
This is where SWIM’s memory becomes fuzzy, he remembers putting the pipe down and immediately feeling exceptionally dizzy and disorientated, his heart beginning to pound and slight nausea setting in, SWIM thinks shit… hadn’t expected this so soon (he assumes in retrospect the DXM must’ve been beginning to kick in at around the same time he smoked the weed), he sits back down and puts on some music and a huge euphoria sets in for about 30 mins, MASSIVE euphoria but SO fucked, after about these 30 mins nausea properly sets in and SWIM has to lie down, the euphoria is gone now and replaced by a deep feeling of dread.
Whilst SWIM is lying down, it feels like his body is anchored to the floor being dragged down, he feels he has to keep moving to stop being dragged down, he has a feeling of extreme terror about being paralyzed – SWIMs memory is very vague from this point on, but now is when the real trip sets in – SWIM heads to the bathroom and is violently sick for god knows how long.. his perception of time is long gone by now, after being sick he hears a voice in his head telling him to lie down, to let it all go, SWIM lies down and the nausea is gone and the voice is telling him “see? it’ll be fine”, but SWIM is still terrified, he feels he is being pulled out of his body as some kind of punishment/atonement for his crimes, although SWIM does not think he entered a true out of body experience.
SWIM’s heart is still pounding and he is very hot. SWIM goes back to his room and lies down in bed, almost throwing up again from the effort, SWIM cannot move at all now from his bed, experiencing exceptionally vivid closed eye visuals that felt SO real, like being thrown into another world, and strong open eye visuals… the visuals were impossible to describe, SWIMs memory is almost gone of this moment, only that I remember thinking “holy fuck how is it possible that I am this fucked”, far more intense than any other psychedelic experience he has had.
SWIM wakes up at 3am, he feels fine now, albeit dazed and confused and still seeing mild visuals like stars on the ceiling and patterns, but nothing crazy even when he closes his eyes. He first dosed the gel cap at 8pm and smoked the weed at around 9:45PM. Today SWIM feels pretty shit and still a bit out of it.
What could’ve caused (what SWIM feels) is a strong experience off of such a low dose? He feels, from reading that he definitely experienced a high third plateau trip, from reading effects, and what he believes was “contact with a higher/superior being”. SWIM has read that it is possible to be deficient in the enzyme that metabolises DXM (can’t remember the specific one CYP2D6 or CYP450), could this be the cause? SWIM weights 57 kilograms and is about 5ft11.
edit: SWIM felt like he was close to dying, or that he would never come back, as it were, if he allowed himself to be dragged down.
edit: SWIM’s memory has been coming back, and damn, this has actually been teh most powerful and mind blowing drug experience of his life, he has gained a lot of deep insights and lessons from the experiences, and a lot of his beliefs have been challenged. Lesson learnt – treat this drug with respect.
Just one of many, …………many, …………….many……….. “sippin, sippin” stories mixed with “plant”