The Democrat’s token abused 23 year old college coed is actually a 30 year-old hardcore women’s rights activist. Sandra Fluke is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.
Jammie Wearing Fool reports: For me the interesting part of the story is the ever-evolving “coed”. I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy.
During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.
In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her. (read more)
Unreal. This was all just a big dishonest Democrat ploy to take the attention off of Barack Obama’s assault on religious freedom. It figures.
Further background research on Ms Fluke reveals that she got her start in government in New York in 2009.
Sandra Fluke’s professional background in domestic violence and human trafficking began with Sanctuary for Families in New York City. There, she launched the agency’s pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. While at Sanctuary, she co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which after a twenty-year stalemate, successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Sandra was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President’s Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.
As the 2010 recipient of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant, she researched, wrote, and produced an instructional film on how to apply for a domestic violence restraining order in pro per. She has also interned with the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking; Polaris Project; Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles County; Break the Cycle; the Domestic Violence Legal Empowerment and Appeals Project; NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund; Crime Victim and Sexual Assault Services; and the Human Services Coalition of Tompkins County.
Through Georgetown’s clinic programs, Sandra has proposed legislation based on fact-finding in Kenya regarding child trafficking for domestic work, and has represented victims of domestic violence in protection order cases. Sandra is the Development Editor of the Journal of Gender and the Law, and served as the President of Law Students for Reproductive Justice, and the Vice President of the Women’s Legal Alliance. In her first year, she also co-founded a campus committee addressing human trafficking. Cornell University awarded her a B. S. in Policy Analysis & Management, as well as Feminist, Gender, & Sexuality Studies in 2003.
…Sandra Fluke is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice…
Pu-lease. 
SO it is justice to kill a baby before it has a chance to vote for a Conservative?
Why are we still using the ancient term coed? I thought that was all sexist and stuff.
In my book this is all just a fancy way of saying she is a professional agitator and trouble maker.
As in “community organizer?”
Ummm…duh.
there is a horse named that….imagine them announcing in cali or new york “this is community organizer”
Just a “Fluke” really!
Yes I would say that also.
Golly….
Another phony victim promoting another phony cause who also has a phony background who claims to speak for all of the other phony victims……
I can’t get past her raving beauty.
Why would she need birth control? I’m thinking she might need some roofies that she could slip into the pizza delivery guy’s drink.
Idiot, when is the last time for you?
Flesh this question out for us, Diane. I don’t care what you do or where you do it or to whom you do it. But I don’t want to pay for YOU to have sex. That should be up to YOU, like it has been for many, many years. What is YOUR problem, suddenly, wanting ME to pay for it?
. . . the question puzzles me. How does this question follow from EC’s observation? Speculating on the intimate life of my fellows is not something I am inclined toward. . . but I dare say nothing in his comment implied . . . any lack in his current situation.
Rather, it is M. Diane’s response that implies a manner of desperation, that her (? one assumes) reply is so overwrought and unbecoming. . .
Diane, genius… don’t you mean when “was” the last time for you? Is calling someone an idiot your way of announcing your being a liberal? What else do you want for free?
Diane, upon further soul-searching I have decided you are 100% correct. I am willing to pay for you to be sterilized. Thank you for opening my eyes to this need.
That’s what I like about conservatives like you, Barn. Always open to changing your mind. You’re a generous guy.
lmfao
Double Dittos
Love this from a FB friend.
If you think the PUBLIC should pay for Birth Control; you are a
S – stupid
L – liberal
U – usurping
T – taxes.
Oh good God.
Ha…hopefully a mod can make this embed…
Nice!
But it’s one thing for Obama to call and ask her if she’s okay.
I’m waiting for Bill Clinton to call her.
An open proposal: I am, right here and right now, posting a public appeal to Sandra Fluke. I am offering to take her to dinner and then to see a movie – of her choice, of course – and I promise to provide the contraceptive.
Although I can make no claims nor any promises, based on past experience, she can expect 88-96% satisfaction – depending on her choice of move, of course.
Ivan
Ivan! Long time no see. I’d pass if I were you. She’d probably want to go to the Russian Tea Room in Georgetown, and even though you’d fit right in there, it would cost more than any possible benefit of the date. And I know you’d be packing, so you’d probably get arrested, it being WDC and all. Then the sex in the DC lockup wouldn’t involve contraception or any other protection, so all in all, just lousy prospects.
Who supplies the bag?
She’s a hardened liberal, so it better be a soundproof bag, because if she starts talking, Ivan might sh00t himself in the head.
Plastic, right?
According to a female caller on the radio this afternoon, who said she has no health insurance (sorry, don’t remember what show I was listening to), you can get generic birth control pills of several types at Walmart for $5.00 per month, or from Planned Parenthood for $35 per year.
Somebody alert the Truth Team! You can actually get BC for about the same price as a Starbucks!
I was just searching for info on Bing and, apparently, the cost is actually $9.00 per month. Still not much.
ADD: I guess Target is matching the price.
TWO Starbucks!
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/291338/birth-control-cant-be-simultaneously-inexpensive-and-too-expensive
Well, if a female caller on the radio said it, it must be true. Now I see how that idiot Rush Limbaugh has so many sheep. lol. There is not a planned parenthood located a convenient distance away (I got this information from a former Georgetown student who had 2 take 2 long bus trips to get to the closest PP when she went there) and the $5 Walmart brand does not work for all purposes, especially when it is needed for medical reasons (like preventing cysts, regulating periods, etc).
Just a stupid troll! If you need birth control, you will take the 2 bus trips. If the need is medical, the insurance company will almost always approve it. Straw man alert! Do you know that both Walmart and Target offer $9.00 (five different kinds) birth control pills. Are ALL of them unsuitable for medical conditions? Have you looked into it. Use that precious Google to find out. I did!
Actually, I used Bing, because I no longer use Google, but that’s really not important. Use whatever search engine you find useful to find out the facts. Don’t be like my cousin, who says “I can’t waste my time looking up things that you won’t believe anyway.” Maybe you don’t want to know the facts?
That’s because Georgetown is the tony part of town, and is too white for PP. PP prefers to set up in the Hispanic and AA ghettos. So she’d have to travel to. . SE? In which case, it’s not the bus rides preventing her (which, btw, is not troublesome anyway. People in cities across America routinely commute longer to and from work, and college kids to the same to have a night on the town). . . it’s the gang activity. And if that frightens her, it’s only cuz she’s racist, right?
BTW, Georgetown Metro buses generally run out of Dupont Circle, which has a Metro station. (No PP that I know of, cuz most folk in the area are homosexual–but the SEIU is there, interestingly enough)– from there, she can go anywhere in the city. Georgetown is not isolated. It’s simply an enclave of the rich and extraordinarily affluent.
As for medical, non-contraceptive purposes. . . employees of the Catholic Church will have such prescriptions covered just like any other prescription. All it takes is a short note from a doctor. I’ve known women in diocese across the country who needed it for such reasons, and they were employed by the church. . . and it worked for them.
I have yet to hear this person state that she needed the pills for any medical condition other than preventing her from getting pregnant. The whole made-up controversy has never been presented by the administration for anything other than birth control. Your argument is very, very weak.
If you use your head, you don’t need birth control.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.100027.1324488107!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_635/image.jpg
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Slut!
Cost of an aspirin is what, maybe 5 cents? Take one, hold it FIRMLY between your knees, and save the rest of us the cost for your personal mistakes.
And how does that help treat endometriosis or PCOS? That’s what many women use contraception for. But I’m sure you knew that, right?
Most, if not all, insurance companies would approve use of contraceptives for medically necessary treatment. My insurance company has been like that for years now. Straw man alert!
I know plenty of women who work for the Catholic Church, several of which have had conditions that had contraceptive pills as a treatment. Guess what? A note from the doctor was all it took for the Catholic Insurance (various groups) to cover it just like any other prescription. This is a false argument, as no one is denying access or prescription coverage when used to these purposes.
Try again.
PS:
Oh, and I suggest reading Humane Vitae, wherein such use is supported and defended.
Facts screw up their strawman screeds, Zoph.
And I’m sure you knew that the hormone doses are often different when treating endometriosis (do you even know what that is or did you just google it to try to sound educated?), PCOS, acne or PMS.
And that has relevance because . . . Maybe you don’t know how this works; let me spell it out for you. A patient goes to the doctor; the doctor recommends a certain medicine for XYZ ailment or condition; doctor writes a prescription for proper prescription with proper doses; patient takes said prescription to the pharmacy and gets it filled. Prescription is either covered by insurance or patient pays for prescription. Most insurance companies have a co-pay for prescriptions ~except that BO/BS has dictated insurance companies to cover bc 100%.~ So you see, it’s the doctor that controls what hormone doses are suitable or necessary for said treatments.
I’m thinking I like barnslayer’s idea (above). Free lifetime birth control for any woman who wants it – sterilization. Think of the savings – no future abortions, pregnancies, or contraception needed. Also reduces the number of kids raised by idiot-liberal mothers. Works for me. Great idea, barn!
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Who would have sex with that troll anyway.
Man….that slut is tricky.
This is hilarious. Republicans seem to enjoy this circular firing squad. What part of pissing off 52% of the electorate do you not understand. Let me know how this works out for you not just this November, but for many Novembers in the future. Let’s see – cross off blacks, hispanics and women??? That leaves pretty much your 30% rump of the electorate going.
So, lemme get this straight. “Issues” in your peabrain consist of whether or not I pay for YOUR contraceptives??
The issue is that Obama has no right to force private entities to provide anything to their employees/students. They have successfully moved the discussion from unconstitutional government overreaches and the poor economy and rising energy costs to a boogeyman of the religious Republican candidate taking away the rights of feminists. I call BS. This bitch is just a government puppet.
Spot on! No one is even talking about the unconstitutional usurpation of private rights. Obama wins big while the nincompoop republicans fall into the trap of accepting the premises that this is about religious freedom, women’s health, or feminism. Next, expect to be ordered to purchase a government motors volt.
BTW, we are both part of the 52% you are referring to. NO, most of us don’t want the government sticking their noses into our private lives! If I need birth control pills, I’ll go to Walmart or Target and buy them for $9.00 a month. Preferable solution.
ADD: If some of the “52%” are too stupid to know the real issues, then we had better educate them, not cower in fear.
As a woman, let me just say that I want the government out of my bedroom. That means that I am willing to pay the paltry $10 bucks per month for contraception, if I want it. Or I am free to go out and buy a separate health insurance plan that covers contraception, (even though I know that just jacks up the cost of premiums). I do NOT support using the federal government to force PRIVATE RELIGIOUS institutions to pay for something that goes against their conscience in violation of the 1st Amendment.
I keep thinking, first we let them pay for our contraception, then they will decide that they want our children on contraception…oh wait, since they are now paying for our contraception to support our reproductive rights, then isn’t it just a small step to deciding our reproductive rights for us, such as how many children we have or if we can have children. What is that old saying, give them an inch and they will take a foot. Or in this case, open the door to your bedroom and soon they will have taken it over.
That’s it in a nutshell, Garnette – China’s one child policy comes to mind. Or a NO child policy.
Kinda puts this article in a different light, doesn’t it?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/compulsory-abortion-and-no-references-to-size-power-and-sexual-potency-in-auto-ads-obama-advisers-words-come-back-to-haunt-him/
Democrats don’t seem to mind pissing off : Catholics, Jews with ties to Israel, Evangelical and just about any other type of Christian, home schoolers, gun owners, members of the military, small business owners, people that own cars, people that eat fast food, consumers, taxpayers…. I can do this all day. The only lock the democrats have is on freeloaders and communists (redundant, I know).
Republicans are the party of black success:
http://www.nbra.info/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.blackgop#martinlutherkingjr
Gee… Another halfwitt… who’s sharp as a bowling ball….
Stupid commies like YOU creating a ridiculous fantasy “problem” to cover up the miserable failure of your latest incarnation of idiocy wont prevent me from doing everything I can to get rid of your retarded messiah.
You know who really benefits from using the federal government to require third parties to pay for contraceptives? Eeeeeevil Big Pharma, that’s who.
Hey Sandra, keep your womb out of my wallet!
+1
lol, PD.
Why is the media helping Sandra Fluke promote unsafe sex?
Liberal whores stick together, maybe?
Since ad hominem arguments seem to have a place in our national discourse, I’d like to take this opportunity to point out that you’re a brain dead halfwit moron and history is not going to be kind to ignorant cavemen like you.
And your contribution to the conversation is exactly what? There are plenty of valid and pertinent opinions in this thread. Why not enlighten us.
A lobotomized conservative would make you a… liberal.
Did somebody say “Liberal?”
Okay, Ms Fluke. You’ve announced in front of Congress that you have a great deal of sex (although whether it is always with the same guy hasn’t been mentioned AFAIK).
Now that this announcement has been made, you will no doubt be propositioned by many men simply because you have announced that you have a great deal of sex and therefore they will believe you have no standards. You will also be whispered about behind your back by men and women for a very long time (remember what happened to Monica Lewinsky).
At some point in your life, you’ll have to decide whether it was worth it. Only you can make that determination.
Exactly who said she has sex with guys? Ten to one she’s a you-know-what.
SHE NEEDS SOMEONE TO PAY FOR IT WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? EEEEWWWW KIND OF SKANKY REALLY….I GUESS BY NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT HER FREE SEX DID SHE EVER HEAR THE TERM “WHY BUY A COW WHEN YOU CAN GET THE MILK FOR FREE” EVER HEAR THAT ONE MISSY? I GUESS SOME WOMEN WILL DO ANYTHING TO HAVE SEX WITH JUST ANYONE…HOW MANY TIME A DAY DID SHE SAY? HOW PROUD HER PARENTS MUST BE…I AGREE WITH RUSH….AND I AM WOMAN…!!!!!
Did anyone, including those in Congress who claim to be physicians, validate Fluke’s authority (credentials) to testify on the subjects she did (Did she swear to tell the truth at all?)? I heard her claim that a woman with seizures (seizure disorder) that, although she didn’t say it outright, described a moderate to severe seizure disorder (Grand mal seizure a.k.a. tonic-clonic seizure — you can Google it) required birth control (hormone) pills to prevent or manage her moderate to severe seizures. Lets see, birth control pill to control seizures; possible untoward / adverse effect of birth control pills include but are not limited to “seizure” as well as “stroke.” Maybe the person she spoke of should be seeing a neurologist who might want her on one or more anti-seizure (anti-convulsive) medications as opposed to birth control pills to manage her problem with seizures not to mention other possible therapies / surgery to moderate the disorder … and get away from the person telling her to take birth control pills for it. Just a thought!
Ms. Fluke also claimed that a lesbian friend could not afford her “pills” which would have prevented her ovarian cysts which led to her having an ovary surgically removed. At one time (beginning in the 1970′s) clinicians assumed that birth control pills prevented ovarian cysts (good excuse for prescribing them as any). HOWEVER, review of 7 studies in 4 countries concluded that there was “no benefit.” If you wonder who found that out, a federal government site can clue you in on the subject, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19370628
These are just some examples that put Ms. Flukes congressional testimony into question.
Jibes (noun) may make one feel good in regard to Ms. Fluke, but in the end I would think that placing her testimony under the “light of truth” would best serve the public. It would expose potentially harmful misinformation based upon faulty logic arguments to emotion and assertions that do not rely facts. That would serve conservatives … and liberals.
She was not officially invited to the hearing, so Ms Pelosi invited her to speak to her own little meeting. The Democrats tried to substitute her as a last-minute replacement for another speaker of theirs that had been scheduled, but she couldn’t be vetted in time, so she was not invited to speak at the official hearing.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-dems-played-games-over-sandra-fluke/408036
If you’re living in America in 2012 and whining about not having access to birth control, let me help; go into almost any store at all and you will find a wide array of boxes and boxes of condoms that are 97% effective for protecting against pregnancy and, as a bonus, sexually transmitted diseases….. They are low cost and don’t even require a prescription…..
The 30 yr old law student doesn’t access. She wants free. Is she willing to work for free? Stuff costs somebody money. Just because she isn’t paying doesn’t mean someone else isn’t with taxes. I wonder who is paying her tuition?
1300 more Americans will be added to the unemployment rolls via Chevy Volt. No matter, they still will be mandated to support (pay for) a 30-year-old reproductive rights advocate $3,000/year sex habit.
How awesome is this administration! Can’t wait to be rid of it.
I fully expect this strumpet to be nominated for this year’s Nobel Piece Prize.
Oooooooh, you iz really evil, Wee! Good one!
I got an ovarian cyst while on birth control pills for the first time in the first year of my marriage. I couldn’t take them because they also caused headaches. Our new health insurance plan where I teach doesn’t have a prescription drug card. I couldn’t get myNexium filled because itcost about $300.00 per month.
I am using OTC drugs instead. They both cost more than the $9.00 per month it would cost MS. Flukes to be prepared for her active sex life. Hopefully her insurance plan will pay for drugs like Nexium so she doesn’t have to suffer acid reflux which can really be painful and keep you from having an active sex life!!!
I had the same problem with Prevacid. Insurance wouldn’t cover. They did cover Protonix which worked even better than Prevacid (your results may vary). Once off the Protonix I got reflux. Your body makes more acid than it should = reflux. Tell it to make less by taking a tablespoon of cider vinegar with a small amount of water. I was successful in beating it. If you want to hear more reply and we’ll talk.
Excellent post at MisFit Politics:
If You Ain’t Got No Condoms, Take Your Broke Ass Home
http://misfitpolitics.co/2012/03/if-you-aint-got-no-condoms-take-your-broke-ass-home/
I love this one so much I gotta make a post of it. Here is one of my many favorite quotes from this:
Why in God’s name would you want to have sex with a man who can’t afford a condom? If the mention of God makes you uncomfortable, I’ll rephrase the question. WTF, my girls? WTF?!
OMG, I am dying here. This chick can write.
This brought another question to mind, why would a woman want to have sex with someone who doesn’t care enough about himself to protect himself from STDs? If a woman doesn’t feel comfortable asking the guy to provide and wear a condom, then why is she comfortable sleeping with him? What came to mind next was the talking point from the 80s and 90s about the importance of talking to your potential partner before having sex because a woman was sleeping with him as well as every other person he has ever slept with.
Hilarious! So true, and so funny!
http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/
Sandra Fluke never said she was a 23 year old college student, and from the beginning she stated her affiliation with the reproductive justice group. If anyone was misleading, it was media outlets like this one that make assumptions without doing proper research.
That changes nothing. She’s still a free-loading sleaze.
Word.
And the “media outlets like this one” . . . wow. We’re now a “media outlet?” I feel so special and important!
But bascially, Barnslayer has it. Don’t matter who she is, she’s a self-proclaimed slut and now has to deal with the consequences of her self-proclaimed sluttitude . . .
Well that just makes it all better!! So, I DON’T have to pay for her extracurricular activities, right??
Whatever she is, it boils down to the fact that she wants me to pay for her pills. Whether she lies about the cost, whatever her agenda, I don’t want to pay for her free stuff whatever it is.
This person is all about “the government” (us, employers) paying for services that she doesn’t want to. She wants gender re-assignment surgery covered under all insurance policies. That is policy, not compassion. Not everything is a disease. Only when the left wants someone else to pay for it.
Could you quote/source the part where she asks taxpayers to pay for her BC pills? Let me guess, you heard someone else tell you that’s what she wanted and you just automatically believed it. It’s so hard to find an informed conservative these days. I miss the days before the far-right-wing destroyed what used to be a fairly reasonable party. Oh well.
“I attend a Jesuit law school that does not provide contraceptive coverage in its student health plan. And just as we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result, employees at religiously-affiliated hospitals and institutions and universities across the country have suffered similar burdens.
“We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women.
“Simultaneously, the recently announced adjustment addresses any potential conflict with the religious identity of Catholic or Jesuit institutions.
“When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage.”
Here’s the entire transcript:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz/transcript-of-testimony-by-sandra-fluke-48z2
She wants someone else to pay for her contraceptives – in this case, Georgetown Law School.
Actually no, not the school or taxpayers BUT the “student health plan” as you quoted. The student health plan is HEALTH INSURANCE that is PAID FOR BY THE STUDENT through the school. Ms. Fluke simply wanted to make sure that religious institutions were not able to keep people from getting the medical care they needed and paid for by having health insurance simply because they have an ignorant view of birth control pills. What is that ignorant view? That BC pills are simply only useful as a contraceptive. That couldn’t be further from the truth as the transcript that you linked to proves as she describes the other health benefits of BC pills referencing what a friend of hers takes them for. One last thing I find hilarious is the conservative claim I keep hearing that the more sex a woman has, the more birth control she has to take, which is so ignorant, it’s only worth mentioning as a hilarious side show of an argument that can only be made by someone as intellectually dishonest as Rush Limbaugh and his audience.
You’re only showing your own ignorance now, Looney, because it’s obvious to everyone in the discussion on this blog that Catholic organizations have always insured for medically-necessary BC pills. Their only issue has been with insuring FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONTRACEPTION. See, that’s the thing about being a drive-by bombthrower. You end up just looking stupid.
“One last thing I find hilarious is the conservative claim I keep hearing that the more sex a woman has, the more birth control she has to take, which is so ignorant, it’s only worth mentioning as a hilarious side show of an argument that can only be made by someone as intellectually dishonest as Rush Limbaugh and his audience.”
I think you’ve lost your mind – and are pulling “facts” out of your posterior.
Especially since what she claims about regular-dose BC is not true for the increasingly popular morning-after pills, like RU486, which, of course, need to be taken more often as sexual activity increases. Plainly.
Woaaah….. wait.just.one.minute. My wife told me 20 years ago that birth control pills were only effective for 6 sexual encounters per month??? Whaaaaaat’s this ????? Unlimited??? U.N.L.I.M.I.T.E.D !!!!
OMG —- I’VE BEEN HAD.
Carry on without me for a while….. She’s gots some making up to do
“Oh HONEEEEEEEY…… 
You were good for 6 a month? Crap. We didn’t use BC, but mine claimed that I gave her migraines if we exceeded twice a month. Even if I didn’t talk. This medical stuff is so confusing!
If she and the other students don’t like the health insurance plan that Georgetown Law has set up, they are perfectly free to go out and get insurance plans on their own. It’s called freedom of choice. If you don’t like what they are offering, you go and get your own plan. That’s what I did when I went to school. Sandra Fluke can do it, too. She’s not helpless. She’s a 30-year-old adult. And she knew what the school’s health insurance plan covered (and didn’t cover) before she decided to attend this private religious institution of higher learning.
So, lunar….. you wash out and re-use your condoms? Or would that come under “the more sex you have the more birth control you need”?
I want you to quote it to me where she does NOT want somebody other than her skanky self to pay for it.
You give this blog way too much credit! lol. Media outlet? Yeah, just like Rush is “America’s Anchorman” as he claims.
Although, why not make false claims about this blog since they have no problem lying about Fluke.
Anyway, The Conservative Tree House is made of of a group of KKK Grand Dragons who helped Rush cover up his secret trip to Thailand where he purchased sex with little boys and used Viagra to turn his innie to an outie to consummate his new found love of pedophilia.
That is probably one of the funniest, silliest, descriptions of this blog I have ever seen! Thanks for the laugh.
I was hoping someone would enjoy it. What I said has just as much credibility as this blog so it should make a great illustration for you about what a joke http://theconservativetreehouse.com really is
Thank you! I’m sure your blog is very nice, too. How about you give us a link, and we’ll come by for a visit and show you some love, too?
I don’t blog. Sorry. Thank you for giving me a place to school people though. It’s very generous of you to put yourselves out here like this.
So how about that proof that Fluke lied about her age? Anybody got that yet?
Time magazine article quoting from Barbara Boxer and the recess conference they held. But age is not the central issue. People like Fluke, and perhaps you, are the PROBLEM. It’s the entitlement attitude of no personal responsiblity that has killed America. Why should anyone’s premiums go up just to provide non-medically neccessary, benefits?
Why are people comfortable about allowing the government to tell you you must purchase something (Obamacare), then mandate what must be contained within the product(s) that you are legally obligated to buy. Why shouldn’t a person be able to purchase a coverage that is tailored to their need? You start with Birth Control, but where does it end?
That’s the point. That’s the issue. And you can try to deflect it all you want, but it’s not working. Mkay?
And here’s Rush’s go-to guy for pedophilia…
Yep, you got us!!! here’s our leader….
Frank needs not lie about his sexual orientation and can freely get his preferred good times at home with his long term lover. The fact that you claim homosexuality to be on par with pedophilia (where the perps always claim to be heterosexuals or celibate in case of the clergy) shows the depth of your ignorance.
I like this gal. She’s nice! Smart, too!
You need to research the goings on in Barney Frank’s home.
We should do that, but it would have be one of the “TreeHouse After Dark” posts. Password protected. NSF Anyone.
Yep, and Fluck (drop the ‘L’) is still a slut.
You are certifiably insane. Now, would you please go back to MediaMatters or whatever mushroom pile you crawled out from under. Your arguments have been thoroughly debunked so you then go to ad hominem attacks. Classy. Idjit! I mean that only in a loving and Christian way.
Thass ’cause yer a good egg, T. The “loving thy enemy” crap, I mean.
Ho’s got devil eyes. Fo rizzle.
I don’t see a single source for this claim that she lied about her age. You base an entire blog post on it and yet no proof. Why?
This blog post was written almost a week ago, when media outlets (real ones) were reporting that she was 23 years old. That’s why. Pretty simple, really.
Then source it. It can’t be hard if it’s true.
LunarCritter see if you can source this! You should try it sometime it might just save your soul!
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And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
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Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
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Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
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Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
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Thou shalt not kill. (THIS SHOULD BE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU)
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Thou shalt not commit adultery. (DOES THIS NEED SOME SORT OF SPECIAL INTERPRETATION FOR YOU?)
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Thou shalt not steal.
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Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s
Great, now show me how this mattes to free-thinking individuals living by Constitutional law in a secular society.
A Constitutional Republic if you please. Learn your civics.
Are you saying that I am wrong by claiming that we live in a secular society or that we live under constitutional law?
We provide the government with a list of powers they are allowed to have. Not vice-versa. We are not a democracy. Our founders considered “Democracy” one of the most dangerous forms of governance, even worse than a monarchy. We are a Constitutional Republic. You seem to confuse “republic” with “society” (your word). There is a HUGE difference.
Within a constitutional Republic laws are expected to be enforceable without coming into conflict with the constitutional restrictions placed upon them. In this case, freedom of religious tenant in all it’s forms, is in conflict with insurance mandate.
The way to fix the issue is to allow the product (in this case insurance) to be determined between the selling company (provider) and the consumer (organization or individual). The govt stepping into this relationship is unneeded, unneccessary and unconstitutional. Period.
BillShee says DianeSteenstra says lost.n.boston says michaelacummings says OhSnap says Right2bleft says buckeyeman says: JohnK says lobotomizedconservative says Midgey says: Meme says: LunarCritter says:
1) boy these libs sure come out for this subject huh?
2) You can’t see with all that smoke in your eyes. I mean anyone who even goes along with the slogan “reproductive health” is already STUPID! You are a fool, being played for a fool by the fools and instrumented by the king of fools. Yes you have been liberated all right. Liberated from being what you should be and lost your grace and place.
Heh it is freedom of speech right? Well when your freedom cost me my religious freedom or cost me money it is no longer free FOOL!
I’m sure you can demonstrate how her insurance company covering her health care costs that she paid them to is making you lose you religious freedom and costing you money. Don’t worry about being civil or reasonable, I know better than to expect that from a conservative.
LunarCritter,
It is easy to understand even a 2 year olds intellegence could. Nothing is free! If it cost me money than I should not be paying for something that is against my religious beliefs!
And yes you are right, you do know better than to expect that from a conservative, we are never reasonable about incivility!
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But you knew this right? Because you are the one who came to this consevative web-site and started hammering away!?
You keep repeating that someone wants you to pay for their BC pills. Are you an insurance company because if not then you have absolutely no point. If you are being intentionally obtuse and dishonest, then I question your “Christian” credentials that you seem to hold in high regard yet do not follow yourself.
Thanks for your definition of how you called me names (i.e. “fool”) being directly rude (without justification I might add) but I figured that out on my own.
If you were a part of a 5 person group insurance plan, lets say auto insurance, and the other four members voted to mandate the insurance company covered oil changes, and tires, would your insurance costs go up?
A negligible amount but is not a corollary to this argument as even if we are just talking about one aspect of the use of BC pills (sex) it’s cheaper to prevent pregnancy than to give birth. If we take into consideration the wide range of medical conditions that BC pills help, there is massive savings.
Regarding “negligible”, who are you to make such determination?
Regarding “cheaper”, so could be the point of mandating “diet pill” coverage be argued to that regard. Or vitamins, or asprin, or toothpaste.
Good point! Cheaper to force people to lose weight. And what about the increased rates of breast cancer and BC? Is that cheaper?
Your attacks are worthles to me. If you cannot see the point in “nothing is free” then it is pointless for you to be here.
You are a FOOL and that is not an attack on you, just describes your actions which in turn labels you a “fool” which I might add is justified by your remarks. Your actions and your fruits you have given us here today. Very nice of you.
Nothing is free which is why she pays for her health insurance. You do know what health insurance is for, right?
Key word “insurance”. How do you define “insurance”? Apparently from a totally divergent dictionary.
“Insurance” – is a form of risk management primarily used to hedge against the risk of a contingent, uncertain loss. A promise of compensation for specific potential future losses in exchange for a periodic payment.
Under your definition what is the “future loss” being guarded against?
Why aren’t insurance companies required to cover rubbers.?
Because rubbers aren’t medically necessary as birth control pills obviously (or should be to anyone that takes the time to inform themselves on any given issue they are so obviously concerned about) are. let me help you: http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/med-uses-ocp.html
You’re welcome. I’m happy to donate my time to help those who cannot help themselves.
Birth Control pills as a matter of healthcare neccessity are indeed covered under those circumstances. The proposition argument, by Ms. Fluke and others, was in advancement of Birth Control as a preventative of pregnancy, mandated by insurance coverage in addtion to medical condition. Again, under the medical neccessity it is, as currently in existence, already covered.
Could you quote that particular argument made by Ms. Fluke? That isn’t what I read in the transcript at all. Also, Please provide evidence that the BC pills are provided under those circumstances.
Gladly. How about you ask nicely.
Or even better, how about you actually read some of the comments in our posts that provide that info before you slander them?
Are you too lazy to do your own research? I read an essay by a former student at Georgetown Law, and I believe she said that medically necessary use is permitted by the Catholic Church, and is paid for by their insurance plan in such cases. I looked it up – so can you.
You should pay for me to go to the gym.
Am I a health insurance company? I do think that health insurance should provide benefits to people who make good lifestyle choices that improve their own health.
I think the provider will (and should) decide what it will pay for. Actually, if medical insurance were restricted to catastrophic coverage, it would cost a lot less. You buy insurance for your car, but you don’t expect them to pay for oil changes, do you?
You are denying me my right to good health.
LC,
Pratice wht you are preaching ok?
or should be to anyone that takes the time to inform themselves
I mean that is a snide and derogatory statement.
What have I demonstrated ignorance of? This isn’t a Biblical argument if that is what you are trying to say.
Oh for me it is one and the same. You can’t seperate the two no matter how hard you try. Now not everybody is going to agree with me here and that is okay. But you are challenging my Religious beliefs with your way of life (or at least the one you are standing in for) and that makes it a biblical arguement. And when you talk so nicely about “preventing a pregnancy” you are and want me to pay for it, makes it Biblical for me. You are ignorant and a fool.
Ignorance Meaning and Definition
(n.) A willful neglect or refusal to acquire knowledge which one may acquire and it is his duty to have.
1. Ignorance of RU486 BC freq of use.
2. Ignorance of Catholic Insurance provision of med-nec BC.
3. Ignorance of conventions of civil discourse and courtesy.
4. Ignorance of conservatives. (prove us wrong!)
5. Ignorance of nature of this republic. (not secular)
6. Ignorance of good hygiene. (you stink)
another “hit and run” to add to the list
Wait! Don’t go, Looney! That was fun!
She is clearly asking the university to cover the cost of contraceptives in all cases, not just in medically necessary cases. This is clear from the transcript that I so kindly linked for you.
ADD: The main point has been lost here, anyway. The testimony originally was to discuss the right of government to compel a private institution (school or business) to provide any particular medical procedure or drug at their cost.
I imagine she pays a deductible, or perhaps a small amount, towards the insurance provided by Georgetown Law School, just as I participate in my employer’s health care plan. The employer is the one providing the coverage, and paying most of the cost. If she is buying her own insurance, she can purchase whatever plan she care to buy. That isn’t the case. She is telling Georgetown Law that they must provide what she wants.
If she truly pays for her own insurance, she could buy any kind of insurance she likes. She is paying a small part of the cost of a group plan, and probably a deductible. That doesn’t give her the right to dictate to the provider of the group plan what must be covered.
mooncat – please explain this dichotomy to me since I’m a simple, knuckle-dragger. Why do you all say pro-choice when what you really mean is pro-death? That one has always puzzled me.
corporal moonbeam, let me see if I can put this in terms you might just understand. Let’s say your church, of which I’m quite certain you are an atheist, or at best an agnostic, but just play along with me for a minute. I know, I know, you like feeding peanuts to the monkey, but I digress.
Let’s say that church which you hypothetically go to says that broccoli is against their beliefs and if you ate that broccoli, you would go to Hell. Now, along comes the big, bad Republican President and he says that for the good of the Country, everyone must now eat broccoli. So you and all your virtual churchmates start to protest that if you have to eat those bad veggies that it will sentence you to a lifetime of damnation and you just couldn’t do it.
What you don’t understand since you just strolled in today, is that we are conservatives first. One of the main tenets of our political philosophy is that we can better determine what is best for us rather than the big, bad government. If you had spent anytime here you would have noticed that we have lambasted many pols from our “side of the aisle”. Your boy barack ain’t nothing special. The biggest difference is that he wants for all of us to eat our broccoli, ride the bus and live in crappy apartments otherwise we will destroy this planet. Sorry. Not gonna buy in on his marxist/socialist utopian dream. If you can find me somewhere it works I might listen. Might. Peace and Love my moonbeam friend.
Except that he wants us to eat our peas – not broccoli. I like peas. And broccoli.
I like peas. No bloccoli!
I think yas used too many words on comrade moonputz, she’s not gonna get it. She wants free shite, dammit!! and commandant baraka said she could have it. Period.
Okie-dokie…(give it a moment)…
oh and BTW here is the definition of “fool”
fool (fl)
n.
1. One who is deficient in judgment, sense, or understanding.
2. One who acts unwisely on a given occasion: I was a fool to have quit my job.
3. One who has been tricked or made to appear ridiculous; a dupe: They made a fool of me by pretending I had won.
4. One who subverts convention or orthodoxy or varies from social conformity in order to reveal spiritual or moral truth: a holy fool.
5. Archaic A mentally deficient person; an idiot
1) It’s so hard to find an informed conservative these days.
2) it’s only worth mentioning as a hilarious side show of an argument that can only be made by someone as intellectually dishonest as Rush Limbaugh and his audience.
3) Anyway, The Conservative Tree House is made of of a group of KKK Grand Dragons who helped Rush cover up his secret trip to Thailand where he purchased sex with little boys and used Viagra to turn his innie to an outie to consummate his new found love of pedophilia.
4) What I said has just as much credibility as this blog so it should make a great illustration for you about what a joke http://theconservativetreehouse.com really is
5) Thank you for giving me a place to school people though. It’s very generous of you to put yourselves out here like this.
6)It can’t be hard if it’s true
7) Don’t worry about being civil or reasonable, I know better than to expect that from a conservative.
8) Thanks for your definition of how you called me names (i.e. “fool”) being directly rude (without justification I might add) but I figured that out on my own.
9) You do know what health insurance is for, right?
10) I’m happy to donate my time to help those who cannot help themselves
Well we have had such a nice discussion here and I wonder whose web-site this is and who came here looking to cause trouble, make fun of, be ilogical, downright nosty and mean, uncivil and complain tht they are not treated right?
GO FIGURE with all these nice statements and good discussions without all the name calling and ininnuendos we accomplished a lot.
: (fight) fight
NEXT!
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