Wednesday Open Thread – February 22nd

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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119 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread – February 22nd

  1. WeeWeed says:

    Hump day already! Coffee’s on, Doc has “Obama Downgrades the American Dream.”

    • Mornin’ Wee! An appropriate article for Ash Wednesday! We gonna suffer whether we’re fasting or not! Coffee and bran flakes for me this morning. You can go ahead and post the bacon pics this morning if you want, WeeOne. We can take it! :)

  2. WeeWeed says:

    “The High Priests of Eco-Destruction”

    • Thanks for posting that link.

      Also from George Washington’s Farewell Address (which used to be studied by school students):

      Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labour to subvert these great Pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men & citizens.

      President George Washington

      Religion and morality are indispensable supports to political prosperity.

      • As I mentioned on the other post, I wish our current leaders had 1/100th of the wisdom this man had.
        Wisdom – ck.
        Humility – ck.
        Courage – ck.
        A mans man – ck.
        Leadership – ck.
        Christian – ck.
        Servant – ck.
        Selfless – ck.
        Passionate – ck.
        Strength – ck.
        Humble – ck.
        Compassionate – ck.
        Founding Father – ck.
        Intelligent – ck.
        Clever – ck.
        World wise – ck
        Human – ck.
        etc. – ck.

    • Indeed! Happy birthday, George!

  3. GracieD says:

    I just heard something on WGST in Altanta(7:00 hour)–I listen online via iPhone, and they had two man call in who are here Legally from Nigeria. Their stories made me proud of America. It shows that Nothing can stop you from succeeding if you work hard and refuse to give up. It would be well worth the time to listen to it on demand. Rob Johnson and Dave something or other are the hosts of the show.

  4. tnwahm says:

    I found this when researching in response to someone that believes that Capitalism is evil and unchristian.
    How Private Property Saved the Pilgrims.

    The real story of Thanksgiving is how the Pilgrim’s started out with Socialism and it almost killed them. William Bradford changed it to Capitalism and they flourished. This article relates the history of how and why they came to America. It wasn’t the Indians that saved them, it was Private Property and Capitalism.

    • texan59 says:

      I think Rush talks about this each year around Thanksgiving. Great story.

      • tnwahm says:

        That’s how I found the link. I was looking for a different source than Rush and when I Binged it, this article came up. It debunks quite nicely the whole idea that communal property and socialism works.

  5. tnwahm says:

    Just as a reminder. So much truth here with Uncle Milton.

    “The only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you are talking about; the only cases in recorded history are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade.”

    “The record of history is absolutely crystal clear, there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system.”

    “Is it really true that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest?”

  6. WeeWeed says:

    LOLOL!!! :lol: “Santorum Calls Out Obama’s Boss”

    • barnslayer says:

      I’ve quoted the “under the radar” line from time to time but an actual clip of him saying it would be extremely useful. He will use all the underhanded methods he can. Job one must be to send him back home… wherever that is.

  7. freedom1781 says:

    Working with liberals is really driving me crazy today. :mad: And I’m broke from last week’s donations to the cussin’ jar. :D Is it Friday, yet?

    • Menagerie says:

      We’ll take up a collection for you. Friends don’t let friends suffer in silence when working with libs.

      • freedom1781 says:


        The libs are so upset about the VA pre-abortion ultrasound bill today. I can’t even begin to describe how hard I had to fight the urge to go into their department and give them the facts. I have the habit of attracting an audience when I get on my soapbox. If I didn’t have to meet a deadline today… ugh!

        • Menagerie says:

          Go for it. I tossed a twenty in the cruise fund. I am thinking of researching some nice cruises while off my feet. All I know is we ain’t going to Italy. How ’bout one of those Alaskan cruises ya’ll? If we don’t cash in the cuss jar proceeds, Obama will come and try to wrest it out of Puddy’s little paws, and you know that won’t end well.

          • Ad rem says:

            (Ahem… they think I’d be foolish enough to really keep it in something as banal as a jar? There will be no ‘wresting’….damn sure.)

          • The Tundra PA says:

            Menage–as far as Alaska cruises go, I can’t speak from experience; Alaskans don’t tend to go in for them. Cruise-inclined Alaskans generally want to go someplace warm to do it. However, some of my family from Alabama and some of Dear Spouse’s family from Texas did Alaska cruises last summer and they all raved about their experiences. The cruises follow the coastline of Southeast (the panhandle) which is thickly dotted with islands providing protected waterways, so smooth sailing and no seasickness. The mountains of Southeast are HUGE, you are looking at up to 19,000 feet from sea level. You see plenty of glaciers and marine life. Stops in some of the small towns give you a flavor of the frontier experience that is alive and well in Alaska. And summertime gives you the midnight sun experience, which is awesome. Alaska is America’s greatest treasure, and something every American should see at least once in their lives. Come on up to the Last Frontier!

          • Menage, the cruise sounds like a good idea, but my DW is so tired of snow, I think Alaska would be a tough sell, even if it would be beautiful and warm in summer. Are there any good beachy places to go? At least as an option? :)

        • texan59 says:

          Here ya go. I’ve got a twenty for you whenever you need it! :D

    • You outa try lining in Hawaii. Heck our cussing jar aint big enough and every time we fill er up they raise the gas prices. Dern in to heckos I can’t afford this bullshevick anymore

    • Looks like he’s buckling under the pressure from the pro-abort groups.

      • Today, Steven Ertelt reports on a 2003 study that found 99% of abortion clinics perform an ultrasound prior to performing an abortion. If there is “no medical reason” for these ultrasounds, as Lithwick and friends contend, then why are Planned Parenthood and other abortionists requiring them?

        But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good scare campaign?

        • The Tundra PA says:

          It is all about the money. Ultrasound is the gold standard for establishing gestational age. The price charged for an abortion is determined by gestational age. Most outpatient abortion clinics are doing a vacuum suction procedure up to 16 or 18 weeks. Less than 12 weeks is one price, 12 to 14 weeks is almost double, and 14 to 16 almost triple. Beyond 18 weeks generally requires admission to a hospital.

          A woman cannot easily obtain an abortion these days without getting an ultrasound first, which simply requires passing the wand over the woman’s greased-up belly and is in no way invasive or uncomfortable. If no heartbeat is detected, the next step in any woman with a positive pregnancy test (regardless of her intention to continue or to terminate the pregnancy) is a vaginal probe ultrasound, which is exactly what it sounds like. This is no more uncomfortable than a speculum exam (i.e., getting a Pap smear).

          So the controversial issue here is not getting the ultrasound, it is requiring the woman to view the ultrasound. Image quality in ultrasounds has improved vastly in the last 20 years. I used to say that reading an ultrasound was like watching two polar bears fighting in an snowstorm. Not any more. Now it is more like watching an underwater swimmer through a porthole. Impossible to deny the humanity of what is growing in her womb, even at 8 weeks. That’s what has them freaked out.

  8. 50p tax rate ‘failing to boost revenues’
    The amount of income tax paid fell sharply last month in the first formal indication that the new 50p higher rate is not raising the expected amount of revenue.

    Surprise! :roll:

    • It is staggering to me that the UK would attempt higher forced tax rates again. It is really odd… You see when Carter was POTUS here the UK did exactly the same thing there. They raised marginal rates to 50% and instituted a 50% capital gains rate.

      Businesses and people fled the country in droves and figured all manner of ways around the tax hikes. It was a total failure and the economy was really wrecked by the whole fiasco. That was what led to the rise of Margaret Thatcher who stepped in and taught those insufferable dolts what economic consequences were.

      Much like how Reagan followed Carter and led the US to prosperity, the same happened in the UK with Thatcher.

      I guess what they say about learning from history is totally correct. It’s also true that if you wait long enough history will repeat itself. :( Sad actually.

  9. zmalfoy says:

    I just learned something important about myself: No matter how very interesting the contectual material is, Base 60 Mathmatics sends this girl to sleep, very quickly. Stupid brain! Wake up! This is cool!

  10. WH Senior Advisor: Unemployment Stimulates the Economy

    This, kids, is your brain on drugs.

  11. Wife Admits: Slain Iranian Nuke Scientist‘s ’Ultimate Goal Was the Annihilation of Israel’

  12. Patriot Dreamer says:

    The CFPB is concerned that you don’t know how to avoid an overdraft fee

    The infantilization that de Tocqueville warned us about.

  13. Patriot Dreamer says:

    OWS Letter to the Editor in USA Today: We Will Storm Wall Street With Guns

    It’s OWS, so it’s OK. :roll:

  14. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Update: Ousted Daily Kos Writer Speaks Out More On Radical Islam

    • OH SNAP….. I hope everyone watches this video, but not for the reason you would think. First off, cudo’s to Jake Tapper who is the only friggin journalist who ever holds Carney’s feet to the fire. The rest of them are insufferable water carriers.

      But the real reason you should watch this video is to see MARA LIASSON, NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO who is just over Jakes shoulder. Watch how she responds to Tappers questioning. Mara Liasson is an insufferable elitist dolt and it always frustrates me when they put her on Brett Baiers panel for Special Report.

      I have been arguing for a long time, that she is one of the primary progressive “plants” in the media because she sneekily trolls for controversy. She is a TV and Print media concern troll… She builds up credibility to a point and then when needed “whammo” she delivers some of the most partisian critiques of conservatives, but she does it in a very sneaky manner. SHE is a Decepticon stealth troll for NPR who infiltrates conservative circles.

      Watch the video again, and watch her expressions. It is a rare glimpse into how “those types” actually think when they don’t believe they are being noticed….

      Thank you for dropping this video. Man-O-Man have I been looking for just such a snippet of her for such a long time. :D

  15. freedom1781 says:

    Rep. Pelosi: Catholic Church ‘Has Not Enforced’ Contraception Ban

    “Ninety-eight percent of women in childbearing age that are Catholic use contraception. So, in practice the church has not enforced this and now they want the federal government and private insurance to enforce it. It just isn’t consistent to me,” Pelosi said.

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      See how they’re trying to re-frame the issue. The issue is not about who uses contraception or who has access to contraception. As far as it goes, anyone can get condoms from any Quick-E-Mart, pharmacy, big box store, and even many restrooms! And “the pill” is not difficult to get either.

      No, what they are doing is requiring religious institutions to comply to what Big Government wants. Sorry, San Fran Nan, but the First Amendment is freedom OF religion. The government does not have the right to force employers to violate their conscience.

    • Menagerie says:

      Enforce? WTH? She wants the bishops to storm the bedrooms now, this mistress of women’s rights? Any church is not about enforcing. We have choices, and even if 99 out of a 100 make the one not supported by that church, it is still their job to point out right and wrong. None of this changes the fact that the issue is First Amendment vs. progs fondest wish list. Sorry, Pelosi, my constitutional rights trump your female goddess self worship crapola world view.

      • Preach it, Sister! I’m just amazed that Nancy ever got her first job with the single-digit IQ that she clearly has. The elected office is not too hard to explain, since she’s supported by the same party that supported the lime-green lady from Houston and Maxine from LA and countless other idiots in Congress with a D(ainbramaged) after their names.

  16. freedom1781 says:

    “The Promise That Became A Punch Line”

  17. Patriot Dreamer says:

    A victory in federal court here in Washington state:

    Judge: State can’t make druggists sell Plan B contraceptive
    Pharmacists will not be required to sell Plan B or other emergency contraceptives. A federal judge ruled Wednesday the requirement infringed on the religious freedom of pharmacists who believe life begins at conception.

    The rule was clearly intended to force pharmacists to comply in violation of their conscience or force them out of business.

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      from the comments:

      for your amusement
      mill creek, WA
      February 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM

      “This is the ruling that the lawyers that I talked with expected. This is also the ORIGINAL ruling by the Washington State Board of Pharmacy. For those that don’t remember, when they made the ruling they cited some of the same reasons that the judge did. It was your Governor who threatened to fire every one of the board members who did not vote to reverse this decision.

      They quickly voted to pass this stupid ruling (that privately they knew wouldn’t pass the sniff test in court)

      Me? I am a little miffed that a state with LIMITED resources has spent the last five years in court, trying to defend a ruling by a Governor, that most everyone knew in advance was illegal. You would expect the Governor, who just happens to be a lawyer, would have known this too. So go ahead bash the pharmacist and the stores for the lawsuit. This was a non-issue before the Governor stuck her nose into the fray. Blame her for wasting your tax dollars”

  18. Patriot Dreamer says:

    Secret Obama memo wanted the $800 billion stimulus to be—gasp!—$1.8 trillion

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