CONTEXT: I believe in deportation and repatriation of all illegal aliens with extreme prejudice and without favor or concern for the sensibilities of those who may disagree with my position.
I believe in the cancellation of all H1B visas, student visas and all subsequent immigration visas that cause negative impact to the jobs, skills, education and training of American citizens. Qualified, specialized, time-restricted individual employment visas should be scarce and exceptionally expensive for the sponsor ($1+ million/per).
I believe we are under no obligation to support, train, educate or subsidize anyone who entered this country unlawfully. The primary obligation of a functioning state is to remove such persons from the general population using any/all means at our disposal while following the strict constitutional parameters as expressed and intended in our founding documents.
I reject the crass, vulgar, intolerant and entitled attitudes, and/or indecent behaviors, of those who entered our country illegally. And with full attestation to my American brothers and sisters, I reject the effort to use my Christian faith, virtue, charity and kindness as a twisted weapon against my interests.
I value respect, honesty, cleanliness, lawfulness and common consideration while rejecting public expressions of vulgarity, filth, rudeness, greed, selfishness and indecency as defined by generations of western cultural values and standards. These factors form the baseline of ordinary interaction within the social compact of my comfort.
I believe each person is equal under the law, and no violations should be entertained as permissible by those who are entrusted with the general maintenance therein.
I disagree with those who express an intention to kill me for expressly discriminating against -and removing myself from- their cultural assembly. And, should the need arise, I reserve my right to violence in my defense.
I am, however, one vote with no greater weight or addition, and I accept those who are opposed to my standard hold an equally sacrosanct right to vote in opposition to my viewpoint.
Perhaps I am, “pretty far right.”
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I agree with all of this.
AND I believe that when those who are not present legally drop a baby in our country it does not magically transform them into American citizens, despite the SC’s huge mistake.
AND I believe that Islam, a governing system with a veneer of religiosity, is inherently un-American and un-Constitutional and that not even the first one should have ever been allowed to step foot in our nation.
If possible, I’m even farther right. To me, to be a conservative means to conserve something of value. Our Republic.
A real American will agree 100% with this and ALL Educational institutions should be swept clean.
People around the world do not have a right to come here and this country was much better off before they flooded in which has completely ruined this country.
SD that label “Far Right” means we are true Americans and many things could instantly be stopped or shut down but those who Swear that symbolic Oath make way to much destroying this country and those who want to fix it.
ME TOO, I’m SO FAR RIGHT that I ignore any input from my left arm and leg except to help complete the task my right arm and leg are working to complete!
God Bless and Protect President Trump and his family!
They. Broke. The. LAW!!!!!
Went too far? Too tough? What a squish
Words from Trump, not SD, to be clear to those that didn’t watch the trump interview
Where did you see/hear that? I didn’t. At what minute marker on the 60 minutes interview?
Watch the clip above that SD posted. Not too hard to do
Go to 1:40 on the above 4 and a half minute video
Squish? Dare I say disappointment.
A squish doesnt hold the line. He said deport them all. That is what I voted for and have been holding the line for. He has welched
Well Said !! Thank You.
#metoo
I agree with every single bullet point you wrote Sundance. To this quote –
“I reject the crass, vulgar, intolerant and entitled attitudes, and/or indecent behaviors, of those who entered our country illegally.”
I will add these words: “I reject the crass, vulgar, intolerant and entitled attitudes, and/or indecent behaviors, of those who advocate and support the people who entered our country illegally.”
Illegal immigration cannot happen unless there is a significant willingness to turn a blind eye to it. It cannot happen on the scales we now see, if it hasn’t been first “normalized” in the minds of 60% sheep population.
Likewise the usage of Christianity against Christians…
“And with full attestation to my American brothers and sisters, I reject the effort to use my Christian faith, virtue, charity and kindness as a twisted weapon against my interests.”
This cannot happen unless a number of denomination institutions are compromised at the highest levels by the redefining of what a Christian “ought” to be in modern times. Christian deportment, even marriage, has been redefined over the last 50 years to mean something Christ never advocated in either His teachings or His life example.
So, yes, place in that very far right corner.
I am just one person – one aging person who’s seen more years behind him than he can in any earthly wat expect to see before him. I do what I can.
On a beach full of starfish after a storm…I can’t save them all, but to those I reach out and throw back into the sea, what little efforts I do matter to them.
While he said these things, the thing he did, was Steven Miller is Chief of Staff now.
If our President has surrendered our nation to the communists, it is of no consequence who is Chief of Staff…
He hasn’t “surrendered” our nation to the commies. He lost an election, probably through illicit means.
So you think amnesty for the illegals is just more 7D chess???
Stop right there. He didn’t surrender anything. He talked about a pathway to citizenship in 2018, and plenty of people were upset, mostly Democrats who looked like fools voting against that because it included a new border wall.
I do not hear anyone mention the cost of every American taxpayer that will be “subsidizing” payroll, housing, medicare, drunk driving, rape, murder, SNAP to keep these “law abiding illegals” working in American industries. Do you think the “poor farmers” are paying the cost to have illegals on American soil? They will pocket the profits while the burden on the taxpayers continue to increase. The illegals and the American taxpayers are SLAVES to these industries. Read James 5:1-6 as a reminder.
“….pretty ‘Far Right'”?
No Sir, Sundance…
Just Right 👍🏻
Keep on keeping on 🙏🏻 🇺🇸
There is nothing FAR with our beliefs.
Love the pic! I believe I am just right also! RIGHT on!!!!!
So what other laws, besides immigration, are the Democommunists going to ignore because of their “feelz”?
And which ones do we get to ignore?
the most important one we must ignore right now is all of their gun laws.
You: get to ignore nonhing!
Them: Any law pertaining to elections. Pertaining to university sports. Pertaining to bathrooms. Pertaining to quotas. Politics at every level.
100% agree. I with Sundance and my fellow Treepers.
right on!
Sundance – Agree totally with every word. I have not changed my stance on any issue since college (over fifty years ago) and I can guarantee you that I never will. I have also never wavered in my support for Trump until now. His policies were never too harsh and if he truly believes that now, shame on him. Just another republican disappointment.
I’m far right.
Every illegal that has taken more from this country than he has put into our system needs to go NOW. Every single one.
Then we can work on the rest.
The sad fact is that illegals are getting far more from our nation than the American citizens who pay for this monstrous situation. I don’t have free rent, free food, free transportation, free education, free legal services or free healthcare.
I know the collapse of our system is what the left is banking on and the recent “elections” have put it into hyperdrive.
Texas a sanctuary state, good God in Heaven.
There should be no such thing as a SANCTUARY CITY, STATE, or TOWNSHIP, within our borders.
Any city or state which declares itself to be a sanctuary – from federal law – is stating that it intends to hold itself out as willing to violate federal law. Brazenly, openly.
But it doesn’t in any way remove them from the auspices of federal law, and should be so treated.
The very first sanctuary declaration should have been appropriately dealt with, and nipped this poison from spreading. Now the invaders are winning, with help from the communists and the traitors.
I come at this shocking declaration by President Trump as an American.
An American who is 40 years married to a Brit who followed every single rule and onerous check in order to secure his green card.
Imagine the millions born elsewhere who have done the same…and even now are waiting patiently (as we did) for the legitimate chance to build their lives as American citizens, understanding what a unique privilege it is to be one.
That is the way that we in this house this morning view his capitulation.
And yes, I do label it as such.
If he makes such a “deal”… a word I have come to loathe when used to describe existential matters that should be set in stone for the sake of our Republic…he has just called those who did or are doing as we did (immigrating the legal way) fools and idiots.
And if he follows through making a ” deal” with the domestic enemies of this nation taking office on January 20, 2027, he will have devalued that most precious birthright of every true American citizen.
Crime pays.
That’s the message.
We are horrified…and gutted to have heard him acquiesce to those for whom this will be only their toe in the door to achieve everything they’ve meant to….the dissolution of the United States of America.
Remember when gays said that they simply wanted to be “treated like everybody else” when they went to the Supreme Court? (Obergefell v Hodges)
Remember when arguing for legitimized abortion that the murderers of human life argued it would “safe, legal and rare”? (Roe v Wade)
Their toes managed to get in the door of morality and God’s laws; and we are well aware what has happened since.
I never thought I would hear from his mouth what we all heard.
Never.
I’m out of words.
1000 UPVOTES, BETSY!
I too am out of words, and am about to puke…
We didn’t another emetic for this first Monday after the grim results of November 3…
But it surely was what we got.
Pretty far right? Your expectations are very Swiss! Our society functions well based on these principles.
Amen Brother!
My nose is right up against the right wall
I understand your position Sundance but I have to say that our constitution allows for some leeway when punishing criminal acts. I think you would agree on that.
So the question is, what is proper punishment for those who entered our country illegally? Is deportation the only punishment available? I say no. Punishment comes in many forms and to solve this problem maybe we shouldn’t just apply one form.
Everyone knows some criminals go to jail, some get fines, probation, community service, etc. Mass deportation has happened for the worst criminals but we still have more to go and getting to the lowest level of criminality will take more time.
If illegal immigration were ranked 0-10, 10 being the worst, is it possible that the 1’s could be dealt with by fines, community service, learning English, going back to enter properly, keeping up their paperwork status, and other sentences? We do it for all other crimes that affect jobs and our society, why not for illegal immigration? If a business has hired these people they must also be punished.
Keep in mind I am against any form of amnesty, I am just suggesting different forms of punishment, depending on the crime, like our constitution allows for. And if any illegals fall into the “crass, vulgar, intolerant and entitled attitudes, and/or indecent behaviors” group, they are not the ones I am talking about.
Trash me all you want but I’m just proposing some alternatives that are in line with our founding principals.
And forfeit their right to become a citizen and/vote in our elections.
And none of their children automatically become citizens either.
And forfeit ANY type of public assistance for yourselves and the next FIVE generations of your family: no food stamps, no free education, no free healthcare, no free housing, no free transportation–did I miss anything?
But ultimately, I still prefer SD’s solution: ALL should be deported, but before deportation, their fingerprints and eye scan taken so they can never come back without our knowing and without severe punishment that awaits them.
Unless they go back and re-enter the legal way. Their employer could pay for the trip if the employer really wants them bad enough.
50 year moratorium on all immigration and deportations with extreme prejudice for all illegals.
No quarter given.
None of them get to automatically re-enter legally. Legal immigration should only be for the cream of the crop, those who would be outstanding citizens and add value to our nation.
Say you have a big house with two unused bedrooms. What is the correct punishment for a person who breaks into your house and illegally squats in one of those bedrooms? Say they are very friendly. Should they just have to rake some leaves in the yard? Maybe mop the floor?
One reason for a punishment scale is not all crimes CONTINUE. If a person sets a fire by mistake, they might be charged a fine because they STOPPED setting fires. If an arsonist KEEPS setting fires they have a more serious punishment because they have not stopped.
A person here illegally only stops committing that crime when they leave, otherwise the crime is committed again every single day.
A more lenient punishment can be doled out AFTER they leave. If they leave voluntarily they can reapply the legal way, otherwise no deal ever. This is the way.
Then they deliver a baby in your extra bedroom bed; must you put that baby’s name on the deed to your house, giving them ownership, decision-making rights? Giving them citizenship????
Shot between the eyes and adopt baby to a Christian conservative preferably white couple.
A fine that keeps accumulating as long as they continue and other penalties until the issue is resolved. As with all crimes, the more you do the worse the penalty is.
I could envision an employer of an illegal also having to pay continuous fines until the employee resolves the status.
Shot between the eyes by home owner.
Hmmm… Interesting but with a couple of additional thoughts. First, on your scale there should be no “0”. If you are illegal, let’s start with a “1”. Second, I don’t believe anything you list for a “1” is either tough enough or even possible. What fine are you going to put on the average landscape worker that MAY be making minimum wage? And how is he going to do community service when he’s exhausted from working 10 hrs a day in the 100+ degree Texas summer? How long do we give him to learn English, 3 years, 5 years? Who is going to test him and by what standard? A new Federal agency? Or just expand one we are already trying to get rid of?
Just send ’em back and be done with it…
You do understand that the IRS or any creditor doesn’t care about how you’re going to pay back your debt. Indeed, the fact that you’re working two jobs, are ill and still can’t pay the debt doesn’t stop them from adding more penalties onto your debt. The don’t care if you now become homeless and loose your car.
Please stop with the ‘exhausted from working in the 100% heat for 10 hr days…nonsense. These illegals are making bank and lying and cheating. They don’t work harder than anyone else. Please, have you ever watched these illegals drives up in their nice cars? Watch them filling up their grocery cart? Watch them shopping at the mall with their designer clothes? The one that really gets me is when the construction workers (illegals) go out to eat for lunch DAILY at restaurants. Hmm, not exactly the new legal immigrants of old who brought their lunch to the construction site. I am so tired of people warping the truth.
The Left will not punish them at all, collect their votes, install their single party dictatorship, and turn you into a serf. How does that proposal sound to you?
According to Immigration laws, first time offenders get a civil penalty of deportation…..the end. After the first time it can be a felony. That doesn’t include any crimes these scumbags have done while in country.
Clearly the civil penalty for first time offenders is not enough deterrence by itself.
Start with automatic felonies and go up.
You are correct that the listed penalties are not enough.
Under 8 U.S.C. § 1325, individuals who enter or attempt to enter the United States unlawfully may face civil and criminal penalties. A first offense under 8 U.S.C. 1325(a) is a misdemeanor carrying up to six months of imprisonment and a fine of generally up to $5,000. A later offense is a felony carrying up to two years and a fine of generally up to $250,000 (18 U.S.C. 3571(b)).
First offense “civil” punishment minimum threshold is quite low.
I am on Team Trebuchet. Now that the wall is up, it wouldn’t interfere with removing these illegal invaders.
I’m on team whatever-it-takes.
Trebuchet, catapult, strapping a parachute and kicking them out the back of a C-130, shot on sight at the border, etc.
I’m done with making accommodations for these thieves and being nice to them.
Here’s where it gets dicey…
We hear that simply crossing the border without following the correct process is not a criminal offense, it is a civil offense…and that gets our dander up…of course it is criminal, right?
Not necessarily…but that actually cuts in favor of us wanting to deport every last one of them…which I do.
‘Criminal’ offenses all have some sort of incarceration potential as punishment, meaning you can be deprived of your freedom…and as such, Constitutional due process provisions kick in…within the traditional court system…the provisions and processes we all think about…judges, juries, etc.
Civil matters do not rise to the same level of due process, and especially civil matters relating to immigration.
Leftists are correct that simply being here ‘illegally’ is not a crime; however, that is EXACTLY why these cases do not have to go before the standard Article 3 courts…only the administrative Article 2 immigration courts.
Only 2 things needs be determined by the immigration courts…Who are you and are you a citizen (identity)? and…Are you here legally?
If you are not, you are deported.
Thing is…deportation is not a CRIMINAL sanction, it is a civil sanction. You are not being deprived of your freedom, you are simply being removed from the country.
The only incarceration that happens is that you are incarcerated while the process plays out (or if you have other criminal matters pending). Once you are identified…if you are a citizen you are released, if not you stay until legality to be here is determined.
This is why the traditional courts are BY LAW not supposed to be involved.
We hear the phrasing…’not reviewable by the courts’ just for this reason.
But the courts have successfully inserted themselves into that which they are actually prohibited from doing.
The current administration should be telling them to pound sand. This is a separation of powers battle.
Let the COURTS be the one to petition the SC…because they will lose. Trump needs to ignore them and throw it back on them.
We all know the saying…
Nice ruling…now enforce it.
Stephen Miller would not allow for amnesty
I hope not!
Stephen Miller is not President.
No, however he does have a lot of influence 🤔
Not MAGA and certainly not America First. Not what I voted for Mr. President. To me, this is much worse than the fraudulent election and presents a huge opportunity for DeSantis leverage. What is this, his version of Reagan’s 1986 IRCA except its 20M instead of 3M. Complete disaster.
Ditto!!
With extreme predjudice!
Coy
“Pretty far right” today or centrist 20 years ago.
Me too!
Interesting to observe obviously young illegal aliens driving around in brand new
Grand Wagoneers and new Cadillac SUVs in a low-wage job market area.
Wonder where they get the money?
I agree 100%. I’ve never considered myself ‘pretty far right’, but I guess in this context, I am.
J Brown, your a Conservative Patriot, that is not far nor extreme, we are the great majority.
Amen!🙏
Right or wrong, the US Supreme Court has recently upheld birthright citizenship as a God-given right set forth under the US Constitution. This means that all the children born of foreign parents on US soil have already been granted citizenship.
If we deport all foreign-born parents do their minor children then become wards of the state? Do we split up the families like Elian, just in reverse?
A sticky wicket, indeed.
It helps to remember that, President Trump’s sentiments notwithstanding, it is the legislators (that installed themselves via compromised voting terminals) that legislate US immigration policy.
Repeat: Immigration policy is NOT legislated by the Executive branch.
Right now our existing immigration laws are not being followed. The judiciary branch even fights the deportation of violent criminals already held in detention.
Until we address election fraud there just isn’t much we can do about the captured legislatures. In the meantime, I trust that President Trump will get the art of the deal done to the best of his ability.
I am blessed to have been born in this country. And I realize many are living in much worse conditions that me.
But if we allow the illegals to stay just because they are good people and have a job, we are not only taking job opportunities away from American citizens, we are nullifying our immigration system.
It will inspire more people to try and sneak in to this country. We already have organizations working to help them get here (and getting government money to do that!)
When/how does it end? There is an old saying, “give them and inch and they’ll take a mile.”
And as Christians we do what we can to, first and foremost, spread the Gospel to all the world. But also to donate to legitimate organizations that help the people where they live now. There are many Spirit-filled churches who have teams go to places and do just that. Supported by our tithes and offerings. Yes, we often ask, “what can I do? I’m just 1 person”
Remember the story of the boy who saved ONE starfish he found on the beach?
I second your motion Sundance!!!!!!!
I agree with you 100%
DITTOS!!!
Amen
Cut and paste Sundance’s complete comments into an email to President Trump. I love what he’s doing but he needs to understand that “illegal” means illegal.
Cut and paste into a reply on Truth Social, X etc …
Color me far right too …
Sundance I believe and value everything you say, every word, 100% agreement. Thank you.
Fear not. Said the Lord. He knows ALL amens hearts? All! There will be judgment on ALL of us. ALL
We patriots who honor the Truth in America’s founding with blood, sacrifice, love for God almighty, and the sacred US Constitution, agree with Sundance—we will remain ‘pretty far right’.
Then i am also “pretty far right”.
Right now, I couldn’t agree with you more. Now Trump is talking about amnesty for all illegals here more than 10 years. What a disappointment! If the media had not hyped Maryland man, etc. So loudly, we wouldn’t be here. I blame this 2hole fiasco on the media, which couldn’t tell the truth if their very lives depended on it. I am very disappointed with Trump at this moment.
Demographics are destiny: whites reproducing lower than replacement values. Illegals reproducing 5-6 kids now and exponentially into the future. This was a feature not a flaw, when teachers unions demanded open borders after the 1982 SCOTUS ruling all illegals get 13 years of free K-12. .
Besides Mexican food companies and taking over all entry level government jobs (“bi-lingual applicants preferred”) , what has been the net contribution of this rapid browning of America. We now join the fall of Britain and loss of their own Anglo-Saxon heritage. Enjoy what was America while you can.
John Birch Society warned of this exact outcome in th 1950s. So adapt or die. It happened . We wanted this current demographic state of affairs apparently. All we see now, as the first state to fall in California, is sheer incompetence, grift, graft and tribalism with the brown takeover of most state elected offices. .
Keep taking the temperature of California, and plot out your own state’s future. Only Maine and West Virginia seems to be escaping these demographic realities. Takers have overtaken the Makers. Behind this entire civilization free-fall is the teachers unions. They continue to escape scrutiny. Why is that?
So One breaking of the law, by breaking into our country, is acceptable?
Does that mean the person who breaks into my home is set free?
Laken Riley’s killer was not on the radar for drug or murder charges in another country.
70% illegals who came into our were fighting-age men.
So all roofers, maids, landscapers get a pass? 99% of them don’t DO NOT speak English, and they’re taking services from the American people and their jobs.
NO AMNESTY!
I’m probably farther right than that. I believe everyone involved with helping illegals get into or stay in the USA should be arrested immediately under USC 8, and all illegals and muslims should be deported immediately regardless of how long they’ve been here.
Why is USC 8 not being used???
These methods would have helped immeasurably remove the presumptuous stealers into our country in the last 18 months. I’d love to see arrests of landlords, sellers, employers, anyone who has facilitated this illegal behavior that is ruining America.
Even the schools/teachers/counselors/coaches etc. need to be made MANDATORY REPORTERS of any illegals, just as they are of other illegal activity, at threat of losing their jobs and licenses or certification.
I agree 100%!!!
We have the right to protest the protesters who want to stop law enforcement bringing illegal aliens to justice.
Our government has been very unfair to people who came into this country legally.
Shame on our Government, and shame on the Americans who let this happen!
That is the essence of what I believe on that subject.
The same mentality that has gamed elections and gamed where taxpayer dollars are spent has gamed immigration to use for their personal enrichment and create disharmony in society that they hide behind and use against us .
Now That Right There pretty much sums up who I am.
Amnesty will only lead to citizenship and eventual Democrat voters and Republicans WILL NEVER hold office ever again. Mr. President, you said America will never become a socialist country. Any amnesty will ensure we definitely do. Don’t become a bitch because you are afraid they will impeach you, they are going to no matter how much you try to kiss their ass now. Betray the American people now, and you will have no one rise up and come to defend you when they do.
Much better than being Far Left.
Why does everything have to be “LABELED” ? Far right? How about just common sense to maintain a culture and civilization. There is nothing FAR RIGHT about it. It’s just common sense.
Conservative Patriot, should be the term.
When you support the constitution, believe laws have value and meaning, Crimes against law enforcement, children, and rape deserve extreme punishment, the United States has top priority with everyone else secondary, no H1B visas except in dire situations, only 2 genders XX & XY, citizenship has value and it shall be treated as such, our courts need to deliver justice, and the freedom to worship without fear.
Should you believe these issues take precedent for our great republic to survive I consider you a Conservative Patriot.
There is nothing FAR or EXTREME with beliefs such as these!
I’m far right also! Full stop.
The BIG PICTURE: the marxocrats have very successfully created over the past 10 years – TDS MIND CONTROL – all over America as well as other MAJOR MIND CONTROL TOOLS like climate change, ELECTION FRAUD, racism, woke, diversity, transgender and ALWAYS the POLITICS of PERSONAL DESTRUCTION – character assassination. Republicans tend to work on a higher plain of ideology and policy versus personal destruction and like Rome, the MOB loves PERSONAL DESTRUCTION as they burn down America. TDS has been and is their bogeyman creation to unite people like the democrats against America despite his FANTASTIC COMMON-SENSE POLICIES! These are the DISTRACTIONS that COVER UP the socialist communist islamist AGENDA causing American CIVILIZATIONAL SUICIDE.
Whoever declares their candidacy for the next elections will ALSO BE THE NEXT TARGETS of PERSONAL DESTRUCTION. Soon, they will be massively targeting Vance, Rubio, Hegseth, DiSantis, MAGA (already targeted), etc. as the next ENEMIES of whatever – their suicidal agenda; all to DISTRACT and COVERUP their TRUE AGENDA and POLICIES to murder America.
Election FRAUD is getting so bad that it is being accepted. This election CANNOT BE CERTIFIED until all voter rolls are reconciled against actual votes and citizenship. WAKE UP America. The sheeple are asleep.