Events in 2027 and 2028 are likely to be very confusing. As a consequence, CTH needs to establish datapoints in real time that can later be referenced and reviewed to make sense of things when CTH starts to put the data into a very difficult to accept storyline.
This process is similar to setting the 2012 election “splitter strategy” as a reference; that leads to the 2014 RNC winter meeting and rules changes; that led to the 2015 lineup of RNC candidates; that led to our ability to show how the ‘splitter strategy’ was being deployed for the 2016 GOP nomination.
The defeat of Jeb didn’t happen in New Hampshire 2016; his defeat was an outcome of assembling years of previous datapoints which proved the illicit roadmap and made the RNC scheme very clear from the outset.
Elon Musk purchased Twitter for $44 billion ¹($54.20/share) [April through October ’22]. He sold Tesla shares, leveraged more and assembled a $25 billion investment group to cover the remainder. When the financing dust settled Musk controlled Twitter and investors were in for around $25 billion.
Musk later created the ancillary company xAI and when the deadline terms of the Twitter investment were due, he essentially repaid the $25 billion debt by transferring the investors into $25 billion worth of xAI holdings.
[Key Point – the originating $25 billion investment was not repaid, just modified]
In 2026, Musk then did an IPO on SpaceX. This culminated in stock sales, valuations and generating $100 billion in cash on hand. A few weeks later Musk then sold 7 tranches of SpaceX bonds worth $25 billion to generate liquidity. He then used the $25 billion offering as the financial mechanism to repay the $25 billion remaining in investor debt.
Summary: Twitter’s $25 billion debt transferred to $25 billion xAI stock, then transferred to $25 billion in payout or bond holdings; the option is for the original Twitter investment group to take (cash out or hold SpaceX bond paying 5% annually).
[Key point – the originating $25 billion to purchase Twitter is now inside the SpaceX bonds]
This was a smart financial gameplay over the past roughly 5 years. This is how it developed and this is the reality in June of 2026. The originating $25 billion borrowed to purchase Twitter is now either: (a) fully repaid, or (b) sitting in long term SpaceX bonds (depending on investor choice).
Musk and his investment friends purchased Twitter for $52 per share. Current valuation is $12 to $15. Twitter investors, Musk’s friends and Musk himself, essentially lost 76% on the purchase (total loss -$33 billion). A loss isn’t a loss until it is realized. There was strong incentive to take each of the various repayment shifts. Twitter ⇒ xAI ⇒ SpaceX bonds.
[¹SIDENOTE: What’s the smartest way to get rid of a $33 billion loss without hurting the investors? ANSWER: Transfer the loss to someone else. How do you transfer a $33 billion loss? You IPO a larger holding, putting the depreciated asset in the hands of retail. SpaceX investors are now unwittingly carrying the loss.]
In the next few years people will argue with me about this. That’s why writing this now is important. What is outlined above is factual. Most of the money borrowed from investors to purchase Twitter is now resting inside SpaceX bonds. People will deny this, because people have a short-term financial memory for things.
The biggest Twitter investment holdings belonged to Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, Larry Ellison, Marc Andreessen and a host of investment funds including the sovereign state fund of Qatar.
♦ When Elon Musk bought Twitter, he initially permitted sunlight into the background operation of the company. That sunlight was known as “The Twitter Files“.
The files showed how the social media platform coordinated with various intelligence agencies within government on the approved information allowed to exist within the platform.
Three journalists were allowed to ask the Twitter legal counsel to run search terms and review the responses (if approved by the legal counsel). That’s how the research worked.
The three journalists were Bari Weiss, Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger.
Thanks to the Twitter Files and the public interest around them, Bari Weiss launched/expanded her online media network The Free Press. Bari Weiss was a Ron DeSantis supporter. Elon Musk was a Ron DeSantis supporter. Ron DeSantis 2024 campaign was launched on Twitter.
The Twitter File research group was shut down by Elon Musk with no immediate public statement as to why.
♦ Billionaire Larry Ellison (Oracle) retained his Twitter holdings as well as his relationship with Musk. When Twitter was under attack from Democrats (’22, ’23, ’24) Ellison was the financial backstop and stabilizing force.
Larry Ellison then purchased the TikTok platform with Marc Andreeson. Larry and David Ellison then purchased CBS-Paramount. David Ellison then installed Bari Weiss as CBS News Editor in Chief and bought her company The Free Press.
David Ellison, the technology heir son to Larry Ellison who controls Paramount, the owner of CBS, is poised to complete a $111 billion purchase of CNN’s parent company Warner Bros/Discovery as soon as July 2026.
Billionaire Oracle founder Larry Ellison now directly or indirectly controls and influences: Twitter, TikTok, CBS and CNN.
As noted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in September of 2025, control and influence of TikTok and Twitter was the #1 and #2 most important strategic geopolitical interests of the government of Israel. These were Prime Minister Netanyahu’s own words.
Billionaire Larry Ellison is a very strong supporter of the Netanyahu government.
PREDICTION: If Marco Rubio stays out of the 2028 race [big ‘if’], then all of the Larry Ellison holdings will be used to promote or position Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over Vice-President JD Vance.
The Israel -vs- Qatar narrative is based on an anti-Vance operation. Prepositioned politics.
[My ‘out there’ suspicion is political narrative control is the entire reason Twitter was purchased]
Talk about three dimensional chess!
Genius level finance!
I get excited on Thursdays as it is 20% of for seniors day.😉
Great stuff, and thank you for the education.
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🤣🤣🤣
I believe you have nailed this one Sundance. This is essentially an Anti-Vance coalition. You can sense it on their media and broadcast platforms already. Either DeSantis or Rubio are their guy. If neither looks viable I would not put it past them to support a Democrat candidate. They are all essentially Liberals anyway, although Musk may be an outlier.
Hell fire and damn nation! I’m planning on supporting Tusi Gabbard for President.
Ditto
I think she runs as a democrat and is financed as a splitter strategy.
She should have been PTJT’s VP in 2020. But on the other hand, she was still a Dem in 2020, it wasn’t until Biden put her on the terrorist fly list she kicked the Dems to the curb.
She may still be a Trump VP pick in “28”
Just not DJT
Nothing “they” do will make voters like and trust DeSantis. The more he campaigns the less that he is liked.
A not to be trusted person.
On edit…no true MAGA Trump supporter would ever vote DeSantis after he hid out during FBI raid
The 40 trillion dollar question is ….who does Trump support?
What gave you that impression of him not being likable the more he campaigns…
It couldn’t be from his “white” galoshes could it?
That’s Rite, they did.
He is still and always will be Meatball.
Married to clickety-clack who thinks she’s hot stuff.
Camo capris with ugly stilettos. I will never forget Jill Casey in that getup. 🤣
And she was clueless as she chatted away (flapped her jaws spouting nonsense).
She may have even looked worse than Ron’s cowboy boots.
😂 They gave us a wealth of comedy..
What’s really strange (and perhaps not so strange) is that the Boston media market pummeled us with all the bullet points in DeSantis’ comments about Scottish World Cup fans visiting Boston earlier this month. We had media spots of kilted Scots walking through Logan, stories about them drinking all the beer in Boston, how great and friendly they all were…
It’s the exact same script, only it is now in being rolled out in Florida.
At the time I was annoyed by the coverage because it came across as the typical greasy marketing attached to globalist sporting events. However, seeing the same narrative now attached to Mr. Casey DeSantis makes me question if something else was going on. For what it’s worth, Massachusetts and Florida share a lot of cross-population.
DeSantis doesn’t have it.
I’m not exactly sure why. Does he lack gravitas, testosterone, authenticity, personality, nimbleness on his feet? Or all of the above.
He’s also got the wrong wife- which demonstrates all of the other qualities he lacks.
As far as I know, he has been a fine governor but that’s as far as he’ll go.
So these very smart billionaires want to push someone who is not so smart or capable onto America for the benefit of the Netanyahu government. Where does their loyalty lie? Is it based on their ideology, their religion, or their financial interests or all of the above?
OT but I’m wondering if who ever cleans up the governor’s mansion at the end of his term will be able to get all the crayon marks off the wall paper. And if they have had indoor pets, I bet the carpet is just a mess.
Don’t blame it on the Netanyahu government. They are doing it for themselves.
All you have to do is watch (and listen to) DeSantis in action. Nuff said.
Dear Lord, Meatball is such a boring speaker. He tries being funny and pithy, but the man has no “Mojo.”
Sundance, where does Peter Thiel fit in all of this? Is he no longer supporting team Vance?
Media control vs massive surveillance may be what we will be watching.
Not voting for DeSantis. Period. Full stop. Not in 2028, not in 3032, never.
Didn’t vote for McLame. Didn’t vote for Romney. Won’t vote DeSantis.
DeSantis is the best governor Florida ever had! 😎
Leave it at that!
I’d like to remind everyone that Marco Rubio is an anchor baby and not qualified as such to become the President.
This was established here in NH the last time he ran for President.. that he knew this and ran anyway we felt really said a lot about him as far as his character.
Now, having said all this, he’s done an outstanding job in the Trump Administration but that doesn’t change all these facts.
It seems so strange to me that so few people today do their homework about where all these people in politics were born and then read their Constitution.
This is more critical to do than ever today.. I point you to Ugandan born Mamdani for example.
Rubio was Born in Florida
What is the definition of an Anchor Baby?
Take time to study this course… go through all tabs on right side. http://usnaturalborncitizen.com/ Then learn about Justiagate to understand why and how we got to usurpation though insemination.
Marco can save the Republic if he comes out and says WHY he is not running, which is he not nbc. One scenario is he runs, wins nomination and then party not certify him which also will work. With this process Obama will be exposed as not ever being certified. Oh sure, they made it appear certified but key word is “appeared” and the form was a twist of wording and wrong people signing.
Rubio is 4th in line in succession to the President.
Of non citizen parents making him not a natural born citizen.
This has already been ignored with obumbler but rest assured that it will not be ignored when it is a republiCON.
Obama’s mother was an American citizen.
Back in the 60’s, she was underage and could not confer citizenship onto her child.
It was ignored during the 2015 campaign run.
But we’re his parents citizens?
They became naturalized citizens after he was born.
Mrub is a natural born citizen of the United States and is 100% eligible to run for POTUS.
False, false, false.
Rubio fully meets constitutional requirements under Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution.
He is a natural-born U.S. citizen. His parents were Cuban immigrants and legal permanent residents (green card holders) at the time of his birth (they naturalized in 1975). Under the 14th Amendment’s birthright citizenship clause, anyone born on U.S. soil is a natural-born citizen (with narrow exceptions that don’t apply here).
Please keep up.
Being a LPR is not the same thing as being a US Citizen.
Please try to keep up, isn’t that obvious?
Please stop with Obama, Rubio, and Ted Cruz. Thank you.
so if the supreme court says birthright citizenship stays.does that clear the way for rubio to run?
No, because the Constitution is clear as to what the requirements are to be the President and this has nothing to do with birthright citizenship.
Constitution is clear on a lot of things yet it matters not.
You are right mycroft but at the end of the day, who’s problem is this? or who’s fault is this?
God gave us brains and the Founders gave us rights and the 2A and we’ve used neither- so here we are.
We get the government we deserve is a real thing.
I don’t see it as fault. It is just the way it is.
Empires rise and fall.
The four turnings.
Sundance has educated me to the point where I now read the news out of habit not thinking I have any influence over how things are going to turn out.
Maybe I ought to write Thune and tell him how I want him to get the SAVE act passed?
Think that will influence him?
Nah I didn’t think so.
Fact is we are rabbits and sheep farmed for the benefit of …..somebodies…
I agree with you.
But what they want us to forget is that we are also children of God. As such, we can pray and our prayers have meaning. Our togetherness can also help us counteract how they try to shape the world.
“For where two or more are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst if them.” Mathew 18:20
But what they want us to forget is that we are also children of God. As such, we can pray and our prayers have meaning. Our togetherness can also help us counteract how they try to shape the world.
“For where two or more are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst if them.” Mathew 18:20
Amen Ms. Words!
Prayers are spiritual weapons and backed by His Word. More powerful than satan, his minions, and plans.
Praise Jesus🙌🙏!!
Maybe.
In law school, they teach you that use of the word “clear” is an indication that the matter is not clear at all.
Lawyers entire reason for existence seems to argue terms like what the word “is” means.
Clinton had sex with the intern and then perjured himself and further lied to the nation.
Some persons would argue that statement to be unclear and untrue.
Facts are facts even if a court decides otherwise.
The Constitution is clear……must be a citizen child of two US citizens.
This was completely ignored for installing Obama.
Provide citation/proof of those exact words please
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-2/section-1/clause-5/qualifications-for-the-presidency
A natural born citizen does not have to go through a naturalization process. Anchor babies are born in the US to Non US citizens and should not be citizens at all except for persons twisting the intent of the 14th amendment. If their parents later become citizens then they are naturalized US citizens but not natural born US citizens…….thus Rubio is naturalized citizen.
Its right there in the Constitution. The intent of the framers is perfectly clear in that they wanted no divided loyalty president.
added: the Cloward Piven driven interpretation to the 14th is to bring destruction upon the US.
The founders would have said who is the father and what is his status……..no Chinese flying in to drop a load and get it stamped US. No bastard children of Kenyan’s running for president with an anti-colonialism agenda.
I believe that to be absolutely correct…to cover for their lawlessness about Obama’s qualifications to be president, the Senate instead huffed and puffed and investigated John McCain‘s natural born citizenship status that year. They determined after much consternation and ado about nothing, that, even though he was born out of the country in Panama to two citizen parents, that yeah he was a natural born citizen. What a comedy bunch of losers they were and still are.
For goodness sakes, why go to a secondary source when you can easily go to the primary source- the U.S. Constitution itself- without having to filter through bias and opinions. (From an ivy league law school no less, no political bias there)
The U.S. Constitution says:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be elgible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
And that’s all it says. And there has been no amendment to this clause, despite the fact that we have had now 27 amendments.
Thus, everything else anyone writes or says, any other statements, are mere opinions.
As to what this means in a particular circumstance like Marco Rubio’s or Barack Obama’s, is a matter for the Supreme Court to decide, or for the ratification of a new constitutional amendment. People may cite to lower court opinions in different individual circumstances but these don’t apply under other fact situations.
Unless and until the Supreme Court decides or clarifies these questions, or until there is a new amendment, everything else is just opinion. Odd how these “opinions” seem to fall on the side of partisan or candidate advantage.
The founders understanding of the term was crystal clear.
Naturalization Act of 1790 by the first US Congress:
“The act also provided that children born abroad when both parents are US citizens “shall be considered as natural born citizens”, but specified that the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States”.[8][9][10] This act was the only US statute ever to use the term “natural born citizen”, found in the US Constitution concerning the prerequisites for a person to serve as president or vice president, and the Naturalization Act of 1795 removed the term.
No, the Supreme Court already ruled on this in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649: anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship.
Although you could definitely make the case that it was a more narrow ruling which doesn’t apply to parents who are just visiting temporarily or present in the USA illegally, I believe Rubio still qualifies even then.
P.S. since some really stubborn people want to still argue about it, I am including a link with direct quotes from the US v Ark case, broken down into a “Q&A for Dummies” format:
https://naturalborncitizenshipresearch.blogspot.com/2011/01/wong-kim-ark-for-dummies.html
Fixed it for you.
“No, the Supreme Court already ruled on this in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649: anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a
natural borncitizen, regardless of parental citizenship.”That ruling established citizenship for a person born of two aliens in the US but did not declare that they were natural born citizen. You went too far and so did that Supreme Court in declaring a person born here of two aliens a citizen automatically. This is abuse of the intent of the 14th and is one of the reason we have so little understanding in this country of what a citizen is….
Sorry but you are still wrong. I am guessing you didn’t read the link I provided because it explicitly goes over the origin and meaning of the term “natural born citizen” as was discussed during the case.
Your statement is completely incorrect as to Constitutional eligibility.
You make no argument nor provide links to make your point….why not?
TREASONOUS usurpers ignore a lot of things, including the peaceful transfer of power via fair elections codified under the US Constitution. Could this be the reason President Trump brought back the firing squad?
Hope so.
My understanding is that if Birthright is thrown out, it would not be retroactive.
Thank you 👍
His folks were here lawfully and on a permanent residency visa, that does make a difference in his patriotic alignment with his US birth certificate… Rubio is the best SoS we’ve had in my lifetime, will be happy if he stays..
I am thinking…we all have set back and watched many things happen that weren’t Constitutional ….Why care now? I get your concern. Foreign Influence is exactly what the founders didn’t want. But unfortunately we have some true blues that are influenced through money.
I think you are incorrect and misinterpreting the legal precedents on this question.
I am sure you are aware of this and are stating your opinions as facts when they are not facts they are just your opinions which are not shared by many.
This week ahead should be interesting as we have yet to hear how the Supreme Court will rule on birthright citizenship.
Rubio’s parents came to the US legally.
Wasn’t there special rules for the people who came in from Cuba?
How far back does anchor baby classification go?
Two sets of legal immigrants set up residency, get married, and have children (anchor babies).
One anchor baby of these legal immigrants marries another anchor baby of the other legal immigrants and have children.
Are these children anchor babies of anchor babies?
How far back does it have to go before citizen and natural born citizen becomes the legal term and where is that, shall we say, “chiseled in stone?”
It didn’t seem to make a difference with Obola. If Pelosi and Feinstein says you can, then you can.
Twitter was losing a lot of money. My recollection is that Uncle Sam was covering some of it. Twitter was the bigger it gets the more it loses. There cannot be much that has changed. X has the same dynamic. There must be a lot of money to be made by forcing your candidate to be President. Space X lost money last year. GROK has to be a capital sink hole right now. Boring is underground and cannot be making money. It boggles my mind.
With No EOs turned into law, the minute President Trump is gone, we go back down the rabbit hole. DeSantis is poison.
But with President Trump gone and the SAVE ACT not passed. It will be over very quickly. It will just be a matter of a slow boil or the Big Ugly.
Bitcoin was created by a mystery man named Satoshi who has Trillions in the Early Bitcoin. If that mystery man is the Deep State funding X won’t be a problem.
Can you imagine the Social Score you have on X from what you read and what you post? I hopefully will be able to meet some of you in the gulag.
Twitter was losing a lot of money because Sundance we here telling us all about Jack’s Magic Coffee shop and people were dumping Twitter..
Looking back, people were really beginning to wake up back then because of the reaction to Donald Trump running and gaining momentum. The start of the #Walkaway movement had begun long before it was named by Brandon Straka and then became a movement.. Twitter and what Jack was doing with the enemy camp was a part of all that.
My point here is that Twitter did all this to itself because it went so far left, so totally unabashedly that we’d all be nuts to stay there, people were bailing in huge numbers.
MIGA masking as MAGA.
And enriching themselves along the way….
Warning to the sweet, curious bunny above…
Do not enter. Run, run away.
We have all ventured forth and know how dark it gets.
(Bookmarked.)
Is that the same as going Woke!
The deeper we go into the rabbit hole, led by our intrepid Treehouse landlord, and indersfand, the more terrible it is to contemplate
And now that we’re down here it is even more terrible to look around and see what’s down here with us…woke included.
Yes indeed. There are things we can’t unsee.
Richard Adams Lapine mythology always gives me some strength. Mom took me to see Watership Down when I was a 4-year old child. Scenes from that animated feature fractured my mind to this day. We rabbits are still endowed with boundless faith and many skills. We will overcome the devious plans of our overlords.
Was on TCM a few weeks ago. Had never heard of it before. Made me wonder why I hadn’t seen or even heard of it in November 78. Not a children’s movie however.
Definitely not a children’s movie. It was 78 and rated PG. What could go wrong? If I was a parent then, probably would have assumed an animated feature about rabbits was for kids.
Today I can at least semi diagnose the visual trauma as an adrenal dump panic attack.
PG is the correct rating for it. PG-13 at most. In Europe they gave it a G, which was completely misleading and caused the controversy.
Read the book.
I remember it well, Todd. For me it was both disturbing and fascinating in equal measures.
The passage you left, I found so inspiring and still do to this day.
I can’t thank you enough for leaving it.
There’s definitely something very compelling about it, although I can’t put my finger on it. Perhaps it’s the dichotomy of an adult story in an animated version featuring bunnies. And the paradox of cute, innocent little bunnies having all the malice of humans.
The narrator was British if I remember correctly…..checking.
Yes, John Hurt. Also Richard Briers and Ralph Richardson.
Those voices added what American voices could not. All fine Shakespearean actors, and thus that patina of something more than a simple tale.
Of an Animal Farm atmosphere perhaps. No Bambis allowed.
Going Woke, you pretend not to know.
Going down the rabbit hole is much worse.
Thank you, Miss B for your timely medicine!
I read Sundance’s post, and it REALLY hurt my head on this outing.
Given his track record, I am VERY not inclined to think otherwise on his contentions….
Ronald D is a fabulous governor. He was born for that role, but he, and just about everyone else in the stable, comes with strings attached at the national level
If we can’t trust an African-American like Elon, what do we have left????? 🙁
Yet another interesting promotion.
Hello Kitty! I haven’t been promoted in a LONG time… Arigato gozaimasu, or should I say xièxiè!!! 🙂
No one, save for a precious few, is as he or she self advertises, MHB.
The one thing which becomes increasingly clear with each deep dive thread.
Not even “Trust but Verify” is absolute, nor should it be.
And I think that is what I find so unnerving.
If it weren’t for our Treehouse guide who has done the heavy liftingand who walks in front of us, we’d be none the wiser, dear sir.
Miss B, it is not in my nature to give my complete trust, but I ALWAYS HOPE! Sundance and this Treehouse are an extraordinary, most timely, and much needed ministry and blessing for Our Great Nation. We are fortunate to have found this nest!
And, again, your images are so spot-on so often!!! Two scoops, Milady! 🙂 🙂
I’ve always felt that for some reason, not by chance, I was lead to this remarkable site. As an avid reader of both content and comments first, then with some reserve commenting myself.
My university degree in retrospect availed me not one fraction of the education I received living abroad. Which in turn has been not a fraction of that lifelong continuing education I have been given from our landlord and other residents in these branches.
I doubt there is a one of us who would gainsay what I’ve just written, my friend.
(Yes, two scoops…it’s HOT here. Please and thank you 😉)
And yet again you say the thoughts I wish I could cogitate Miss B… much less express, so succinctly and eloquently, and so much more worthy of this special site… Like you I have been blessed to live abroad, and it informs my boundless appreciation for that which even I, often still take for granted.
I thought this site was too good to be true. Now it, and the curators, are a most welcome and important grounding point as we face terminal challenges to our nation, our culture, and all we hold dear. One extra scoop is headed your way. BE SAFE AND BE BLESSED Dear Lady and HAPPY Saturday! 🙂
As a Floridian, I don’t agree that Meatball has been a fabulous governor. I remember when he changed the law to allow himself to campaign without having to resign. And his campaign was a disaster. He reminds me of Trey “Rooster” Gowdy – tells people what they want to hear, but that’s about it. And I have a suspicion that this new tax elimination is an attempt to position himself for some kind of political advantage.
He begged for President Trump’s endorsement for governor, and after POTUS dragged him across the finish line, DeSwampis stabbed him in the back.
I’ll NEVER vote for this duplicitous POS!
Thank you, D&P. As a non-Floridian by both birth and choice, I didn’t realize Sundance’s post was about Ronald. I was more concerned about Elon’s wake of financial knots.
My perspective is Florida’s overall standing as an outsider looking in. I said, and maintain, that Ronald is a fabulous governor based on his state’s performance, particularly when compared to his peers. He IS the Chief Executive, and I was being gracious in this instance.
Ronald’s self immolation during his first pathetic attempt to go national has exposed him as not fit for service as POTUS. Despite his successes at the state level, they WILL NOT translate nationally, and everyone should view 2024 as a cautionary tale.
If you search the archives of the Treehouse, I have several posts from 2024 to this end.
I am forgiving of trespasses, but, like many, put a premium on loyalty and fidelity. They are essential ingredients in a moral, God-fearing society like our Sovereign Constitutional Republic Under God. 🙂
And frankly, I am MORE concerned about the candidate that the big money will move towards when Ronald is deemed incapable of putting together a winning ticket….. 🙁
Good deep dive, Sundance. I remember your previous deep dive, (2020?) on Desantis and how he was connected and funded by the Sea Island Group and all those billionaires. And we know it’s his wife who was measuring drapes for the White House; she’s the push behind the man. It will be another BIG NO on Desantis.
And why do they prefer DeSantis over Vance?
Vance is a scary unknown unknown. He came from nowhere. He is manufactured, just like Obama was. He has divided loyalty because of his India connection. MAGA will disintegrate if he is the candidate. He is a charlaton. He is preachy without having the gravitas to be preachy. He gives off a Sunday morning televangelist vibe. He hated Trump/MAGA then loved Trump/MAGA.
He’s team Thiel. There appears to be a rivalry
among the technocrats
Glib.
That’s the word, if I were pressed to pick only one in describing him, I would choose.
Having said that, if he is the nominee, I will vote for him without hesitation as the firewall against any Dem that manages to slither in as the potential executioner of all we hold dear.
Rubio also hated Trump in 2016 and beyond until he became SOS.
Rubio appeared to be managed when he was on SSCI.
When he became SOS, he was like a wounded but healed eagle being released back into the wild.
Lest we forget tho – 2026 Mids looms
We must take care of the Mids with the same ‘Beat the Cheat’ turnout as 2024.
Rubio (and Vance for that matter) have seen the light, IMHO. They previously operated in an enviroment where the only way you had funding to run for anything, was you toed the party line. Rubio and Vance did that well. Then along came Trump and proved you don’t have to do that. Rubio and Vance are both good men and will eventually both be good Presidents of the USA in my opinion. I honestly think we’re going to see Vance elected twice and then Rubio after that. I can’t predict the future but the way looks wide open to me, barring tragedy and God’s will.
That’s not true. Rubio got on board after the 2016 primaries and was in contact with the Trump team. He was smart enough not to burn bridges.
Yup. He immediately apologized to Trump after he dropped out of the Primary. Rubio was one of the cleanest, of the dirty politicians who needed big donor bucks and sold their souls, Rubio admitted as much when he apologized to Trump (he said he was just saying the things he said to appease consultants, and he regretted it because that isn’t who he is).
I honestly believe he now knows if you appeal to the population you don’t need to take unpopular opinions that sell the country out just to get money to run. Vance I believe feels the same. DeSantis has already proven he will gladly take their money and be whatever they tell him to be. Three different men.
Sea Island doesn’t like maga.
True. The communists / marxists running under the other banner don’t like morality, family, civility, art and culture. We’re in a tough bind.
DeSantis = McConnell. DeSantis = Thune. DeSantis = Bush. You wanna go back to that?
I actually like Rubio as the most qualified to step into Trump’s impossible to fill shoes…but I do know that in Florida they actually REPEALED A TAX! I think that’s unheard of! If you rent a house our for more than 6 months there is no sales tax. I was shocked when I found that out.
I’m not saying I love DeSantis..and I think Vance is too inexperienced. Who knows how this will play out…
Vance will have a lot more experience in a couple of years. Just an observation, not an endorsement.
Will POTUS Vance be PDJT’s 3rd term ! ! !
No. Vance is just playing a role for which he was prepped.
He does not exhibit original thinking or the operational wisdom from a lifetime of boots on the ground experience that DJTrump carries very naturally, makes use of intuitively, and – in the process – takes no prisoners. Vance as POTUS would be trying to remember what it looked like when POTUS Trump was there.
It makes me tired to try to pretend that Vance would do well.
Agreed.
Marco is the beneficiary of the political and financial support from the Braman Family which owns Mercedes Benz, BMW and Cadillac dealership throughout Florida. They are Neocons and very Pro-Israel.
Looks like we are still finding our way out of that.
Straight Back to Globalism (free trade deals, ending tariffs) migration, green lies……. Endless wars. Think, Bush, Shrub, McCain, Romney, McConnell……..
Ah – Duh?!
There is nobody out there with Sundance’s amazing brain power to figure out all this high finance and connect the dots. Even at that, I confess that my own mind is boggled by the sheer immensity of these transactions- talk about 4-D chess!
There are authors on Substack (Elizabeth Nickson is one of them) and American Thinker (Andrea Widberg) who write about politics and they do credit Sundance for doing the research and deep digging that only he seems capable of doing.
I have always felt privileged to be part of the fellowship of the Tree House because there are so many amazing and wonderful people who come here to share their experience, strength, hope and information.
DeSantis realizes he doesn’t have MAGA creds – but he’ll have rino support from the repuke party along with anti-DJT voters.
Vance will not carry the MAGA banner.
And Rubio neocon will?
DeSantis Happily threw in with them when President Trump was going to go to jail. Mar a Lago was being raided with a shoot to kill order. DeSantis was in some bunker for 5 days.
Jeb Bush lost in NH because Maine is our neighbor that we border, that we all know well here -and the Bush RINO family has been a pox on the state since the crooks came to town over a century ago.
Look at the results of the most recent election in Maine Sundance, once again Mainers just crashed and burned another scumbag Bush trying to get his foot in the door.
In 2016 we were seeing up close and personally what was to become the fall of Maine because of the Democrat takeover that we all can see clearly today, it’s all been downhill from there- we knew this was happening because of the RINO problem.
Because of the Sununu Dynasty that NH has been plagued ourselves with, which is ALSO connected to the Bush Dynasty, we CANNOT STAND these people.
Never Sununu is a thing here and that extends into Maine with Never Bush.
I can tell you precisely why Jeb lost: Because we work so hard to rid ourselves of this friggan deeply rooted RINO Trash which we’ve known about since before it was a thing.
Hello NHnative. I recognize you from your postings at granite grok. I moved from NH to Maine and we sadly are regretting it. It will be interesting to see if the people elect a nazi and a DSA congressman here in the second district. Great location. Few jobs and an overwhelming taxed state to fund the somali land pirates.
Yes, it’s me! I’ve written miles there for many years now.
I’m sorry we lost you and I hate to say this, but everyone regrets leaving NH for all these surrounding states.
Sadly, although they are stunning, they are in a serious mess.
We’re not perfect by any means here but we’re also not in the mess they are.
You’ve learned your lesson, now get yerself back home to NH where you belong !!
Jeb lost because he could not find the right pair of his mother’s undies to wear.
Good News: with the Twitter debt swap, Elon can never lose ownership of Twitter via Bankruptcy and controls it entirely.
Bad News: Elon controls Twitter entirely.
Still, better the devil you know then the one you do not.
I don’t trust him any further than I can throw him, but others would certainly be far worse.
👁️👁️ Does he really…? 🤔
Elon Musk has always been a liar and a fraud. Free Speech was never the purpose of Twitter/X.
So, without Rubio in the race our pre-positioned illusion of choices for ’28 are going to be Rob DeSantis, or James Donald David Bowman Heller Vance.
Lovely…
Elon may not pass our purity test but the President wouldn’t have won without him and he’s been of great help to the right.
Elon is the wealthiest man on the planet, do we want to work with that or against it ??
“Never look a gift horse in the mouth” comes to mind here.
For the eleventieth time… There exists exactly ZERO evidence that Elon Musk had anything to do with President Trump’s win. It was only after the internals showed the Trump campaign easily winning over Kamala, that Musk hopped onto President Trump’s coattails.
His wealth is irrelevant, and I look at everything before I accept it. “Gift horse” or not.
What is evidence today? -and who gets to decide this?
His wealth is entirely relevant because had he decided to use it against us, it would have been likely impossible to overcome.
How exactly would we have won against the Democrats, the RINOs, the DS, Soros and Elon?
Again, it’s not a bad idea to have a trillionaire on our side -since buying elections is now a real thing that the side that doesn’t turn out well to vote is forced to also deal with.
That’s some serious mental gymnastics.
😂
Elon told us all to go fukk ourselves in the face if we didn’t want unlimited H1B. Merely one example..
The mental gymnastics is on your part.
Elon has done a ton to help us- period.
And by the way, Donald Trump has told plenty of people to go fukk themselves.
You win the award for all time worst Strawman Argument.
He’s good at insulting rivals and adversaries, not his supporters and allies.
You beat me to the punch, Alleycats.
I’ll be glad when Musk blasts off to Mars. Yet I think he will never accomplish that dream of his.
One might wonder what a trillion dollars is worth on that lonely red sphere so far away from here.
100% true.
Without the $100 million from Elon Musk plus his political endorsement and support on Twitter President Trump could not have won.
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Musk is interesting. He is very much 21st Century, with no serious moral code, but still he has an ethic of sorts. You may not like him, but, unfortunately, you may not do much better. At least he does not hate humanity.
Musk simply wants to remake humanity according to his vision. That’s what his Neuralink brain chip will accomplish beside the potential altruistic applications.
Beware the mark of the beast.
It will be JFK Jr, in my opinion. Who is very much alive.
Thanks for this analysis. I met Ellison one time. He looked me in the eye and said “Who the f#ck are you, and what do you want from me?” I said “nothing,” and got up and walked away.
Too bad he can’t recall his beginnings. Got paid to develop d base for government and government let him keep ownership!! That’s our federal government.
Next he was virtually losing his company and met a man down the hall who arranged $500k funding.
Luck has been good to him and he should remember that fact and try a little humility.
I remember Dbase in the late 80s early 90s……
Ellison reminds me of other lucky and arrogant people who run companies, like Lil’ Mike Bloomberg. Because they get lucky one time they believe they are the smartest guys in the room, but outside of a small domain of competence they are buffoons.
“If Marco Rubio stays out of the 2028 race [big ‘if’], then all of the Larry Ellison holdings will be used to promote or position Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over Vice-President JD Vance.”
Good grief.
Can’t it be Rubio/DeSantis, if anything at all. UGH!
I can’t get with JD at this point. He’s a cuter version of that smart mouth Sen. from LA, Kennedy, same shtick.
Both very “FOX’ified, if you get my drift, which makes them both fake political actors.
DeSantis is 100% Foxdified and totally with the establishment. I know him and worked on his campaign. He WILL run but shouldn’t be our candidate. It will be interesting to see who President Trump backs…maybe none of this pack.
Rubio/ DeSantis both from Florida. Can’t be a ticket from the same state.
But God…..
… God who works in mysterious ways and is in whom many of us trust, come hell or high water.
DeSantis has the stink of losing once, and badly. Not sure that will work. He’s not likable, and the “competence” argument can’t overcome that.
But he looks good in cowboy boots…
👠👠
Based on that, he would be totally qualified to run for governor of CA.
😂
Very interesting. I wonder how the current political storm brewing between the Trump administration and Congress will play?
Too bad the VP’s fraud unit won’t investigate the financial holdings of our corrupt Congress critters.
We shall see. After the midterms.
lol. Checks notes: Where are the J6 videos? Where are the prosecutions for the money laundering done by the B-B-Bidans…the Clintons…Barry Soetero?
Larry Ellison is downright evil. His dream is an AI surveillance state & he’s working hard to create it here.
This is a recurring problem with some very wealthy people. They turn their attention how they can fix everyone else’s lives.
Fixing everyone else’s lives has and always will be the justification for exerting control over everyone else’s lives.
One rather important outcome of Musk buying Twitter was that it removed Twitter from operational control of whoever on the Left was pulling Jack Dorsey’s strings.
When the Left lost the ability to control Twitter, it lost a huge leverage asset.
True. But I’m not convinced the other end of that Twitter pipeline changed ownership yet.
[Enter, Palantir] 🙁
Point taken 😎
Dorsey immediately ran and set-up BlueSky. It might not have the reach of Twitter, but it’s still an operations and information center for leftist activism.
Furthermore, mainstream and institutional media still has a voice on Twitter. It may not be under the left’s control as it was, but it still acts as a distribution point for institutional narratives.
Combining both those observations, I would argue that “freeing” Twitter was not as impactful as many would have hoped.
I might be getting trolled, but I do like Marco Rubio. Vance I would settle for , of course, but I’m not sure a “nice guy”, albeit competent, is what the electorate is seeking rn. Me thinks Trump knows this. He will put them both in the cage to fight….my money is Rubio wants it more, this is just my impression.
My ultimate fighter is Steve Miller, that would be amazing, so I’m extreme in nature. Love trump, we so need more fight, not “lock them up”, that shit is boring, I just want access shut down. Announce “no income tax if you elect the GOP”, something that will change the game. Fight for it.
We can win, but damn, so many fair weather friends, if I were Trump I’d be going all in on a “f you” agenda.
Vance is not qualified for President. The only qualification he has is he’s Trump’s VP, which is a flimsy reason. Few VPs have been President and those that have have been terrible. His background et al has been tailored to meet so called conservative principals. He’s the Republican version of ‘Obama’ in many ways.
As for DeSantis he is the choice of the Bush wing of the Republican party. DeSantis makes favorable news when tackling ancillary cultural things like DEI, working with ICE or restricting AI data centers in Florida. Items which register with the voters but the more important items that will effect Florida residents are not discussed. DeSantis took office in 2018 and starting in 2019 Florida DMV was required to follow the Motor Voter law where voter registration was given out to anyone getting a driver’s license or ID. At the time getting a DL or state ID only required proof of where one lived, a utility bill sufficed. This law was not curtailed until 2023 when DeSantis signed into law stricter ID requirements for people getting drivers licenses. Coincidently DeSantis was planning on running for President in 2024, self dealing here by chance? Speaking of running in 2024. Florida had a law that if a state politician, like the governor, was going to run for another office they had to resign in order to run. DeSantis and the RPOF changed the law to allow DeSantis to run for President in 2024. More self dealing? DeSantis is proposing abolishment of property taxes in Florida which is a great idea. but he isn’t addressing a financial mess lurking in the shadows. A mess DeSantis nor any Florida politician wants to discuss, the $40 billion unfunded liability for optional pensions offered to state employees. That is a pension in addition to their regular pension. DeSantis recently signed into law tighter voter ID laws, but the kicker is they don’t go into effect until January 2027. They will not be in effect in the 2026 midterms. And who is planning on running in 2028, when the new law is in effect? DeSantis. More self dealing legislation?
And remember on February 28, 2023 DeSantis was at a Books a Million book signing event and had security escort all Trump supporters off the premises.
DeSantis is positioning himself for another run for President in 2028, he has created a good facade for the party base, but behind the scenes he has shown that he is another career politician willing to bend the rules or change them for self advancement.
IMO neither Vance nor DeSantis are the best choices for President in 2028. Another candidate can come out and run for President in 2028. We should not allow the usual players such as corporations, large donors, the political class etc. pick candidates for us. More reason we the voters need to get involved with our local and state elections. The 2028 election is not the important one at this point, the 2026 midterms are.
“Few VPs have been President and those that have have been terrible.”
Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.
George H. W. Bush
Gerald R. Ford
Richard M. Nixon
Lyndon B. Johnson
Harry S. Truman
Calvin Coolidge
Theodore Roosevelt
Chester Arthur
Andrew Johnson
Millard Fillmore
John Tyler
Martin Van Buren
Thomas Jefferson
John Adams
Vance was a Marine. Obama was nothing.
Obama ran an ice cream stand that sidelined cocaine with his big guy “uncle” Frank. I doubt Obama has a real college diploma …… spook product of a spook.
John Kerry and John McCain served as well – means nothing.
I like JD Vance a lot and he’ll make a great President of the United States! Vance certainly has much better qualifications than Obama, Clinton, Carter and Bush Jr!
Nixon may not have been your cup of tea, and I disagreed with his China policy (which he had thought of long before he knew Henry Kissinger), but he was an intelligent and effective President.
I think Rubio should get his legality to run for President established early before entering the ring and get it officially recorded. I would like him to run and win if he does. I do not see anyone else but Rubio and Tulsi Gabbard at the moment to carry on the work President Trump has started.
Perhaps there is a dark horse in the wings that we do not know who will throw their hat in the ring and is America First. Much like President Trump was in 2016. Rubio is the only person I see that has the same energy as President Trump right now.
If Cuba returns to its 1940 Constitution, expect Rubio to become President of Cuba.
That Missouri guy, Eric Schmitt ?, but i saw one big terrible move when he and 3 others went against Trump at 1 in the morning with the War Powers Act. Other than that he talks a good game…..and is tall. Seems to help win.
Sundance must have some amazing whiteboards to track all this.
How about Tulsi/ Sundance 2028? 😃🎉 just dreaming.
Yes. I think Tulsi would be an excellent candidate. She knows where all the skeletons are hidden too.
You might not be all that enthralled with some if her domestic policies.
Tulsi is a complete non starter, she’s completely unelectable. I like her a lot, but she’s not smooth enough to get in office. Plus she has the ‘good looking woman’ problem, I.E., 80% of Women will not vote for her.
All this high finance stuff is making my head hurt.
Gotcha.. Thanks Sundance … it’s the principle of the long range plan whatever that plan maybe … DeSantis does just enough to hold a favorable opinion by most.. Can’t trust sneaky people to have best interest of all at heart…
Bookmark for later reference.
Pres. Trump should and will choose his successor. I like to think it will be a warrior –
MAGA
It will be Vance.
Could you imagine.. Trump, sorry JD my VP. I’m going with Marco. Nope not gonna happen.
Yep. Trump is a big believer in Momentum, he’s talked about it forever… and Vance has done every single thing right and is much more charismatic, and sharp than Pence ever was. Vance is a sharp guy, and a Marine, Trump loves that stuff. He knows right now that the ticket is Vance/Rubio, and he’s publicly said it what, a dozen times already? He even A/B tested Vance and Rubio at a rally and Vance won handedly. No mystery here.
I also believe Vance/Rubio will get more votes than Trump got. Of course Trump is a much better president than any of those would be, but he can’t run again and he’s not getting any younger. If Trump says “Vance is the guy, and I’ll help him” 98% of Trump voters will vote for Vance, and he’ll also pick up some of the Never-Trumpers who think Vance is malleable. He will get many more votes than Trump got in 24.
well, if j.d. and ron are in a cage match,
that does leave a door of opportunity open.
MUCH depends on PT’s endorsement –
he can, and has before,
thrown a monkey wrench in their most diabolical of plans.
we shall see.
in the meantime, BOLO for early ‘influencing’-
seems CTH is a testing ground for that sort of thing.😎
p.s.: Marco really has no path to run? PT seems to disagree…
I won’t ever vote for the meatball. I said this back in 2022. I just won’t vote for President if he makes it to the general election.
No doubt Elon overpaid for Twitter, but how he paid for it was only one of of many options open to him. So the calculations may be correct but the conclusions may not be.
Since Twitter wasn’t for sale Elon had to overpay to buy it.
This is why I despise corporations. None of it is real.
Just a made up rider on actual productive value which actively distorts all aspects of production/consumption in order to maximize it’s own bloated mass of parasitism.
Don’t feed the beasts.
Don’t blame the corporations. The control is they have to make money. If X does not have to make money it is something else.
Best ticket to beat the Democrats in ‘28 is Vance/Rubio..
What are the chances that Rubio stays out of the 2028 race? I assume it depends at least in part on how well Rubio and JD see eye-to-eye on many things behind the scenes in this administration. But I don’t have a clear read on that. Does anyone?
Did not Rubio said he would stay out if Vance runs???
Yes, he did..
How is this countered? 🤔
A Trump spox who I don’t know much about, Alex– went on Carlson and it was so strange watching Carlson giggle and agree with him when Alex said BiBi went to his wedding…Carlson is trying to gain good graces again…he pushes Vance.
I don’t trust Vance, Rubio, and no way Meatball…
Tulsi 2028.
I totally trust Vance, Rubio and DeSantis.
The use of “Meatball” is totally derogatory and insulting to Italian Americans. DeSantis served in the US Military as did JD Vance!
Fascinating connect-the-dots explanation.
But its always been logical to assume a Vance/Rubio ticket. I would not at all be surprised to see Vance as veep once again, with Rubio at the top.
Yes good on the Ron Desantis part but JD holds sway with the tech overlords AND we have not yet included Tedly Cruze and even Louisiana senator Kennedy, not to mention the perenial Randy Poo who have all been sending begging letters to me for over a year.
A Splitter strategy yes! However Ron De is not now or ever going to be up to the task that requires spontaneous thinking and responses as he has collapsed famously in the past. Much like Willard (Romney) who could not present ideas and speeches without committee meetings on where the wind blows.
My hope is JD with Tulsi or Marco (one of the three at the top). Marco, dont forget has deep ties to the Bushes. Without Mitch-the-B in charge things are going to be different than in 2020 and IF we finally get SAVE America (maybe next year) the chinese checkers board is a much different play than 3D chess. All money and DJT has the spigot (for now).
Elon Musk acquired Twitter to use its accumulated data base to train his Artificial Intelligence software algorithms. Every Musk financial endeavor, every political association, and every business is geared to going to Mars. Musk’s work in DOGE was not to fix the Government, it was to access the Government data bases to load into his AI data base.
Musk is not on our side. Musk is not on their side. Musk is solely on his own side, and he is going to Mars.
I know that man has quite the determination and all, but is he trying to escape to Mars or something?
Musk (as did I) read a lot of Golden Age hard science fiction.
Mike Lindell for President!
I kid(a bit) of course.
It certainly seems like it will be one of Vance, Rubio or Desantis in ’28. Obviously any would be better than a Dem, but I’m not big on any of them.
How about Brandon Gill?
Ok
Vance, Desantis, both Trump brothers, Lindell – they are all unelectable in a general election. They’ll need Independent votes along with some Democrat votes to win (like Trump 2024), and none of them can pull that off, IMO. Eric and Don Jr. are especially toxic. I don’t think either of them would run, anyways – there is too much dirt on them.
Rubio is Republicans’ only shot in 2028, and that’s only if he can separate himself from this administration more.
too young I think. I don’t think he’ll be old enough to run by 2028. even so, many people might think he’s too young which will affect how they vote.
Marco Rubio was born on May 28, 1971, making him 55 years old. You only have to be 35 years old to run for president.
He also ran in the 2016 Republican presidential race .
Trump should step down a few months before the 28 election and give the job to Vance. Maybe Rubio as VP. This way Vance or Vance/Rubio is anointed and the new “incumbent” administration is in place and can shut down a DeSantis challenge.
Not only will the
in-fight be destructive, but DeScumbag could even win and Trump 2.0 will be reversed.
I like that idea..
2017 Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal was reportedly hung upside down n beaten at the Ritz. Along w dozen or more royals and “those in high places” for govt corruption by Crown Prince MbS.
When PDJT45 came on board, did PDJT drop dimes on the Saud royals regarding the level of corruption and graft within the Saud govt. PDJT45 was given some very high honors on his official visit to Riyadh.
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal 4 years after his Ritz rehabilitation is dropping Billion$ into Twitter.
The life of the rich n famous
What is the take on the, often simple reply of “exactly” or “yes”, that Elon Musk often makes to seemingly nationalist/anti establishment type tweets/Xs (on our side) that on their own might get a few thousand views, but Elon with a simple reply or repost puts that out to his 200M followers? Elon knows he just has to simply reply and the story gets many multiples of views.
Is this on his own or is he being allowed to amplify those tweets?
If Rubio does run (or can run……..I get confused with the naturalized citizen thing) his being able to switch from English to Spanish fluently mid sentence/one word to the next, will be quite formidable.
How does Donald Trump figure in on this?
I would never vote for Vance and I’m not sure I could stomach DeSantis.
Vance looks like the Republican Obama. Plus he has a Democrat wife.
Also, I don’t want a millennial president – ever. Gen X has never had a president and if we put in a millennial (who are questionable at best) we will never have a Gen X president.
His wife is Democrat?
Maybe not now but certainly before he was VP.
I’m all for Capitalism (not Britain’s rules-based order). No one person should own and / or be able to manipulate such a large swath of the media, regardless of their political beliefs / preferences. This is too much power for any single individual to wield! Where are the checks and balances? Where are the regulators?
I suppose that if you have billions to throw around, the politicians overlook minor inconveniences such as their sugar-daddy’s media holdings, eh?
The politicians must first feed at the financial trough provided by these billion dollar businesses before they will entertain thoughts of trust busting and monopolies.
“……………..then all of the Larry Ellison holdings will be used to promote or position Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over Vice-President JD Vance.”
Is this shaping up to be a proxy war between Ellison and Peter Thiel? A 21st century Clash of the Titans? I seem to recall Sundance pointing out some time ago how JD Vance was the political byproduct of Thiel’s influences.