Would achieving MAGA economic goals diminish the power of the DOJ/IC ?

There’s a short list of things that I have broke hard against President Trump on and this is pretty close to the top. Bondi, Patel, Bongino, and even Trump all bare some blame for overpromising and coming in with no delivery. President Trump should not have made campaign trail comments on Epstein if there were no intentions of doing anything about it. Kash and Dan were in the podcast sphere, they made some wild speculative statements, and now that they are in there they’ve flipped the script. Bondi way oversold this on FOX. Now, if they had all taken a mea culpa (something PDJT will never do) and had a press event saying the investigation is closed, we don’t have evidence to make cases against the participants in under age trafficking, etc etc then it would have been tough optics for them, but it would have probably blown over to some degree if they made headway in something else. This is a self inflicted gun shot wound.

With the leaked memo to Axios, the footage SNAFU (which doesn’t even show the stairs to Epstein’s cell, let alone his door) Dan vouched for, Dan and Kash looking like hostages on FOX, and Kash’s bizarre appearance on Rogan, Todd Blanche’s tweet saying Patel and Bongino knew about the memo, and now Charlie Kirk saying he’s seen emails that Bondi was out of the loop… It’s keystone cops. Supposedly four very media savvy people f*cked this up this bad. That’s just hard to accept. I bet Comey and Wray are laughing their asses off. They were probably told by Bob Mueller not to touch it.

Is this shaping up that Dan and Kash oversold this to Bondi and wanted to go further, putting her out on a ledge which she trusted but didn’t verify, and they got told by PDJT to shut it down? I don’t know, seems plausible, I see that stuff at work all the time. Everyone will scramble to save face. I suspect the president knows quite a bit about this subject, and there is some reason that he does not want it to come to light in this way. If he was involved in any nefarious way it’d have been used against him. I’m disappointed by his choice, but I don’t think that he is a bad man or someone not having empathy for the victims.

I’m not going to sit here and doomer about the midterms. In the end we live in a fallen world, my trust alone is in Jesus, and there are some things I just can’t do a damn thing about.

Let’s see…..he and his admin were able to juggle Iran, BBB, illegal aliens, G7, and Putin all at once.
A simple Epstein should be a lot simpler…or …

weird.
better to say nothing than something incoherent and unpresidential.

but people have forgotten completely about the 14,000 hours of J6 video showing…..

Apparently Bondi and Wiles have been in business making a boatload of money together for years.

I can’t help but think this story is and has been viewed from the wrong angle. Perhaps Ms. Maxwell will be shoved into the spotlight again soon.

It’s ultimately all about the Truth.

If we don’t have that, we have nothing.

That appears to be what President Trump does not seem to understand.

Remember what Rush said, Trump would/could be the only one to separate us from PDJT.

The problem is this: for many people Epstein represents the core of the deep state and swamp that cast undue hardship upon the people. His operation, its reach and influence, and the lives it destroyed are an epitome of the greater swamp. It represents the same greed for money and power that allow behind the scenes shadow hands to pull the strings of our government for benefit of a small club and not as a representative government.

Epstien and operations like that are exactly why we have to deal with poor immigration policIes for decades, voter fraud schemes, etc. Because shadow hands have used people like Epstien to have their agenda and wage their wars at American citizens’ expense.

Epstien represents all the direct and indirect evil done to innocent people. A truthful and just heart roots for Jesus, the light, the truth and the way. Trump is asking us to focus on correction of the downstream symptoms of the corruption and not the corruption and curroptors themselves.

This corruption model replicates itself like a cancer, even at the town and village level and school board level. At some point people have to start fighting for truth, justice and the American way. People have to stand up, regardless of the consequences, expose the truth and pursue the good. Jesus never relented. And, it is that Christian spirit that moves many people with righteous anger to want to see everyone involved in the Epstein corruption, the Clinton corruption, the Obama corruption, the IC corruption, be brought out into the light and given a comeuppance.

We cannot treat the symptoms of black mold and ignore the black mold itself.

President Trump we want truth and transparency. There is nothing selfish about that.
How does Epstein tie into the deep swamp if at all? We want answers.

If you want to retain PB and you feel it is in your best interest because you have confidence she will avert potential impeachment, that is your prerogative sir.

In business, when an executive who is not disposable and underperforms, not up to task, we hire an “assistant” who runs circles around them. (It’s embarrassing.)

So if you do not want to break up your “perfect team the envy of the world” then it’s time to hire Matt Gaetz, Special Counsel and offload certain Bondi’s critical tasks onto him and get moving forward.
Time is wasting.

Trump isn’t wrong , there are more important things to focus on, however Bondi handled this horribly.
I feel like this topic is being purposely pushed to divide, I like Leslie mcadoo’s response concerning this.
We all need to keep the eye on the prize…peace, economy, deportations

Kinda brings pleasure to washing one`s garbage cans.

Like Trump, I’m sick of hearing about it too because there are more important things to talk about and get done. Knowing how the SWFS (Six Ways From Sunday) team operates it should come as no surprise that anything coming from them will, more than likely, not see the light of day for some time, if ever. Dollars to donuts, it’s because a lot of congressmen ‘s names are on that list, if there even is a list, which I doubt. I would think Maxwell’s little black book is full of information but the court has already ruled it is off-limits. That was the first thing she protected, so maybe consider that.

Thank you, President Trump!!

the way i look at it is i’m riding, remaining on, and taking my chances on the Trump train for no other reason than any other train i hop on is 100% guaranteed to run off the rails and take me over a 4700 foot cliff

that said, he’s staying with bimbondi, a wholly flawed ag of florida and a narcissist of the highest order

i know bimbondi’s type very, very well. if you were to clandestinely follow her for a day, you would need a large mainframe computer to tabulate the number of times she glances at her own reflection

this is a sad situation, but shouldn’t be one to terminate our hope.

the truth is, i’ve mentored, coached, and helped guide children (including my own) for many years and it’s absolutely HEARTWRENCHING seeing the damage being done by the administrations past, and now present

se×ual mutilation

trafficking

continual jabbing with poisson, etc

we now see PDJT seemingly protecting this activity and it’s perpetrators – and heads, including my own, are e×ploding and rightfully so!

guess what else was all over hunter’s laptop? hunter r*ping minor children on video, and all of this being well known, hidden and never mentioned

we seem to be dealing with a powder keg of biblical proportions here fellow treepers and one our president seems to want not to get near

and

we see our president is uncharicteristcally fumbling the ball, but

if we stick together, and better yet, become even closer and more unified, we have a fantastic chance of winning the largest and most important game of our lives

we have no choice, we MUST win

Check out 7:42 mark. Bongino says that Epstein was likely a Middle Eastern country’s intelligence asset.

No human is perfect.

Our President is proving that, unfortunately.

The Blonde AG is not doing a good job.

Her protector appears to be her good friend,
Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.

Critics constantly say that Trump voters are a ‘cult’.

I’m a Trump voter.
If I could, I would vote for him a 4th time.

He is the ‘indispensable man’.

But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t make mistakes.

This is one of them.

For me, it’s not about Epstein.

It’s about the two-tier justice system.

The ordinary Joe or Jane (such as the J6ers)
spend years behind bars for… trespassing???

Political and Financial bigwigs abuse children in perverted ways – and suffer ZERO consequences????

No.

How many times,
Have we heard:

“No Man
Is
above the Law????”

Well, what is This, then???

Just like the UK grooming scandal,
This issue isn’t going to go away quietly.

nothing to see here folks
move along….
next up
Amnesty!

After this week, it might be helpful to regain a bit of perspective. In pursuit of that perspective, I suggest reading the article below, “Three Things That Weren’t Supposed To Happen, But Did,” by Oren Cass. 

President Trump is completely reorganizing the American economic system, upending decades of economic theory and thought. Along the lines of the Mark Twain quote “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you in trouble; it’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so,” everything we “knew” that wasn’t so is being tossed overboard, and a new system is being put in its place.

Similarly in foreign policy. Israel started a war with Iran, using as its justification that Iran was “weeks away from a nuke,” and tried its damnedest to drag America into its new war. But instead of joining in, in one night President Trump completely eliminated Israel’s justification for starting the war in the first place, and then, instead of starting a new regime-change forever-war ala George W Bush, what did PDJT do? He walked away, leaving everyone dazed and confused as to what their next move should be, or whether they even had any moves left at all. 

The short of it is, we are living in one of those transition periods. Old foreign policy paradigms are being set afire, and those who spent their careers polishing them are being fired so they can’t infect the NEW approach. Old economic theories and assumptions and the policies based upon them are being obliterated by the new data coming in showing the results from PDJT’s NEW economic policies. The basis for PDJT’s economic policies, the New Right economics, can be summed up as “if an economy doesn’t primarily benefit workers, families, and communities, what good is it?”

Oh, and not to put too fine a point on it, but while PDJT is performing feats of magic in domestic and international economic policy and foreign relations, creating and putting in place new paradigms that will last a century, some of us are distracted by Epstein files and internal DOJ/FBI intrigues. Sigh. Oh well. Whatever rings your bell, I suppose.

https://www.understandingamerica.co/p/three-things-that-werent-supposed

I agree with Sundance – “UGH” – in particular to all the naysayers. Please STOP and reread his comments. Then ask yourself a question., With all he has gone through, with all the obstcles that have been placed in his path, with all that he has already accomplishedts has he ever “SOUNDED MORE FRUSTERED” and are you really being fair?

It would certainly be an interesting strategy if the DS had used its contacts to seed and deliberately stoke rumours and publish ‘so called’ exclusives about Epstein, using MAGAS very own SM network, knowing the subjects ‘resolution’ could become a major inflection point between Trump and some of his core supporters.

It’s almost as if they knew and expected that the Democrats wouldn’t be capable of beating Trump, or that their LawFare strategy would be increasingly ineffective, so instead focused on turning his supporters against him.

So if there is this bigger/deeper investigation going on that Solomon put out and it possibly includes parts of Epstein stuff, then why would Dan flare up as alluded? He should have been in the know all along?

So either Dan is play acting or there is no deeper investigation as Solomon teases and the Epstein stuff is being buried.

So strange to go from pages upon pages to videos to transparency to sitting on my desk to there is nothing……

Bondi would have been better off if she had just kept her mouth shut on the so-called Epstein Files. Running off every week to Fox News was just not a smart media strategy for what is a highly-classified investigation with nuclear fall-out potential.

Epstein seems to have been a long-running foreign intel blackmail operation going back decades our CIA was complicit in at the very least and likely took over at some stage. Gives a peek behind the curtains how global business leaders are kept under a tight leash.

This is going to be my line in the sand. NO, President Trump.
I care about more than a great economy and a balanced budget. If you cannot transparently address foreign interference, and blackmail, not even to mention the sex trafficking and pedophilia, then you are defrauding MAGA. We will not be gaslit. We will not shut up. If you do not listen to us, why should we listen to you. #Epstein

Stop thinking this is about some client list. It’s not!
It’s about those in power who used this little twerp Epstein to their own ends, and when Epstein was all done and used up he was gone.

The deep state is here in these comments. If maga splits now we lose the senate and the house next year. After we secure the two houses then it will be time to go after the criminals.

All the while we have people like Bannon, agitating for rebellion to the point of destruction or civil war, this issue will not go away. He has finally found something to go over the wall about. He has to rile the base up or he loses their attention.

Tom Fitton does it the right way by suing for data using FOIA requests. They are still working on getting him the information.

IMO, promises should never have been made that had no intention of being kept.

I tried to watch warroom and Charlie Kirk’s SAS forum but had to stop. Things are really way out of control and it is too intense to watch. It saddens me that such a debauched character like Epstein, although no longer living, has the potential to bring this movement to an end. Believe me it will fracture and fall apart if it keeps this saga alive.

Obviously President Trump is on board with Bondi and he has made his views clear. We have to accept that fact. It sounds as though the withholding of information was his directive. Who is to know?

I know I will take heat for this post, but I am bowing out from this kind of rhetoric and anger. This firestorm is not MAGA. It is a dangerous and a distraction.

With all respect due to the opposing opinion, I am absolutely 100% standing with the best President in the history of the country following the Revolutionary hero, George Washington.
For some reason, known pedophiles with glamorous lifestyles have been deified by many in this audience and the wider nation. Who doesn’t know that Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey and a constellation of corrupt famous people have been involved? Do I care? Yes, but I couldn’t save any one of those innocent children if I even knew who they were or where they were and are. Neither can you. It goes on without the dead guy, list or no list. And by the way, it was enabled by the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION and who knows, maybe the BUSH ADMINISTRATIONS……….Didn’t hear much about their conduct which damn near ruined this country.
Your own representatives approved all of these hideous judges thwarting Trump’s agenda, didn’t they?. Do you hear them kicking up a fuss? No! None of them……You didn’t cry about that too much. At least, if you did, nobody took action. They could legislate corrective measures. But their jealousy and stifled hatred of Trump relishes this chance to ruin him with your help.
If I never hear the name J. E. again, I will still hate pedophiles and will be helpless to stop them.
Don’t kill the golden goose that just laid the most magnificent golden egg for the benefit of all of American, including the children who are right now being rescued from the clutches of evil men by the very president you are now wanting to string up. PEDOPHILE JOE BIDEN allowed them into the country. Why aren’t you demanding he and his pals report to Congress for interrogation? What? I can’t hear you through all that silence.
Killing the Trump Presidency will get you exactly what you deserve…….slow death by Democrat insanity……..
Please pull your head out of your arse and concentrate on getting some oxygen to your brain. With all due respect, of course.
P.S. Dear God, please, through your son Jesus Christ, cushion the president from this “Young Frankenstein” pitchfork crowd and keep him safe and steadfast in his mission to steer America through these troubled times. Amen

President Trump is right to be frustrated. His list of accomplishments is long and impressive. Thank you. That said, he promised to drain the swamp. To defang the Deep State. This Epstein debacle, combined with the Ukraine backpedal, signals that the Deep State lives. Long live the Deep State!

How did He say it?
You’re Fired!!!

Is it possible that President Trump AND the team that helped him get reelected are in very close coordination, smoking out Pam and Susie and anyone else on this scheme to keep a lid on Epstein?

I just posted a lengthy list of focus areas that I deem more important.

If I had waited- this is where my response should have been posted.

I sure as hell have zero desire to lose MAGA in 2026 or 2028 over this meltdown over
Epstein.

I spent my life in fields dedicated to children and families. I have held sobbing, young victims in my arms. I drove them to both hospitals, and court proceedings.
I have testified against perpetrators numerous times. The damage is both brutal and lasting.

I am a mother.

Yet, I am aware that two attempted hits on our president could not possibly have occurred without the involvement of secret service, FBI and/or others in the federal government. Both were set ups.

Never has a president been more victimized, vilified, or at odds with the IC- Washington beehive.

Demanding a response other than the jackass nonresponse is understandable.

However, I am unwilling to destroy either this president, or MAGA over it.

Does anyone remember when Jim Comey said no prosecutor would go after Hillary Clinton?
Was that a veiled shot?
Freudian slip?
This country doesn’t survive if this is how it works.

This is pathetic and not what MAGA supporters expect and to be honest shows you truly how out of touch he is or at the most generous sense how controlled he is either wat it’s not good

Ugh is right, Sundance! We the people are not happy and, while I support President Trump, this is very serious business! Bondi has to Go!

Trump just stomped all over his own Dick with this statement!

Bondi and Wiles whom both have a vested interest in the Epstein Case going away are the two closest people advising him on this. Trump, who experienced what it’s like to be the victim of a weaponized gov’t Epstein was a weapon of the government used against the powerful, but preyed upon innocent children to do so. There’s nothing more disgusting and deserving of sunlight to disinfect this type of “intelligence gathering” from ever happening again. Trump is under the serious misconception of believing his base will do anything he tells them. He could not be more wrong!
We chose Trump because we believed he’d be our best weapon against the deep state. We DID NOT pick him to look the other way when confronting government criminality.
This is far worse than when he couldn’t wrap his mind around the fact we were not happy about him fast tracking the vax. It took him too long to realize it then and he’s being blinded by his advisers and sadly he’s gonna learn the hard way on this one.

panicans are becoming tiresome

Excerpt from “The Man in the Arena” speech, T. Roosevelt

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. Shame on the man of cultivated taste who permits refinement to develop into fastidiousness that unfits him for doing the rough work of a workaday world. Among the free peoples who govern themselves there is but a small field of usefulness open for the men of cloistered life who shrink from contact with their fellows. Still less room is there for those who deride or slight what is done by those who actually bear the brunt of the day; nor yet for those others who always profess that they would like to take action, if only the conditions of life were not exactly what they actually are. The man who does nothing cuts the same sordid figure in the pages of history, whether he be cynic, or fop, or voluptuary. There is little use for the being whose tepid soul knows nothing of the great and generous emotion, of the high pride, the stern belief, the lofty enthusiasm, of the men who quell the storm and ride the thunder. Well for these men if they succeed; well also, though not so well, if they fail, given only that they have nobly ventured, and have put forth all their heart and strength. It is war-worn Hotspur, spent with hard fighting, he of the many errors and the valiant end, over whose memory we love to linger, not over the memory of the young lord who “but for the vile guns would have been a valiant soldier.”

https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org/Learn-About-TR/TR-Encyclopedia/Culture-and-Society/Man-in-the-Arena.aspx

What constitutes Trump’s Base?

Is it a few hundred commenters on the internet?

President Trump has a valid point; how much of the Epstein evidence is authentic? It has been in the hands of truly devious people for years. In my little brain it is, most likely, hopelessly corrupted.

Susie Wiles; so many posts the she brought us Pam. In my thinking it is equally probable that PDJT threw her name out when they were dealing with the Gaetz situation. They have worked together since she was one his impeachment defenders.

I like Patel but do believe he is a bit in over his head in running the FBI. But I also believe he will grow into it.

I have been a Bongino fan for a long time but, as with Patel, he has little experience with running a big organization.
But in both cases, I am willing to afford them some time

I do agree with PDJT that there are much more important things to focus on.

I have a bit more faith than some it seems in the construct of the cabinet. I can wait before rendering judgement.

But that is just me…..

It’s not about Epstein. It’s about the command and control mechanisms and tools of the cabal.

If all that remains in place then as soon as Trump is gone, things pick back up where they left off.

And Tucker is probably right. It’s the Israel lobby behind it with our own IC and LEA fully engaged.

I don’t think he knows the extent of child trafficking going on. People care about Epstein because exposing him could expose child exploitation.

Many of us love Trump and we are just surprised on his view and double’s down on it today.
With 95 percent of people on Youtube that like Trump and supported , … how come so many people don’t like how Trump handled this epstein matter?

Maybe Trump can put at a round table all the youtube heavy-weights that don’t like Pam Bondi. Trump likes hearing all viewpoints , and he believes in Pam Bondi and not all the people that have problems with her. What happened. Trump got the BBB signed, and Bombed IRAN the last 2 weeks, … what happened to Trump? I have listened to him at rallies for 10 years …and in all types of speechs and the last 4 days, Trump is “off” for me, not Trump like.

This reads as if cool aid is being passed around the administration, transparency always clears up doubt!

Disagree on midterms
Do a balance sheet:
Epstein L
Ukraine-Russia L
Hundreds of W’s every else

Mistake.

He does not get it.

He is underestimating the disgust.

We are his base.

But… remember:

He is not running again (nor can he)

Thusly, he does not give 2 *****

He is in love with his vision (which is largely a good vision)

He is not interested in any diversions.

As I said…

Mistake.

Bondi tasked to restore election integrity post a fake pandemic that nobody is willing to admit was fake?

Cring

Right on schedule and the sooner the better

I’m putting this under the ‘optimal solutions’ tent.

People who say “Move on from Epstein…” Please understand this, it is not about Epstein. It is about the elites getting away with murder (literally) and the average American getting destroyed by the justice system.

Americans are not asking just for less illegal immigration and a better economy. We are asking for a head on a pike !!!!

• Trump said with what Hillary did with her emails, she should be in jail
• Seth Rich murder?
• Russian Dosier?
• Trump assassination attempt?
• Election Fraud (2012, 16, 20, 24)? Take your pick
• J6 Pipe Bomber?
• Act Blue?
• USAID / NGOs?
• and of course, little ‘ol Epstein
• I know a missed dozens more…

We are praying for just 1 major charge and conviction… If Obama’s team destroyed Epstein’s file, then let’s talk about charging and convicting them. But nothing more from Trump other than, “Well, what can you do?”

This is what so many pissed-off Americans are asking for. A line drawn in the sand that at least 1 elite is held to that line. God knows the average American is crushed by the DOJ. But it seems like DC does not need to and will not answer to the laws of our nation. We are asking for at least one of them to be made an example of.

Please correct me if I am wrong!
I thought that I had read somewhere a few months ago that Cashew had opened an investigation on Chuck-You Schumer standing at the door of the Supreme Court threatening two of the Supreme Court Justices (sowed the whirlwind) (won’t know what hit you), but Blondi shut it down.

Am I remembering that correctly, or am I totally wrong?

The only play I see here is President Trump willing taking slings and arrows. He just guaranteed that the people we will have left and right demand a special prosecutor. That it would not be him allowing them ie not a political investigation. He allowing the left to believe he is caught up in this. Which will force the left and right to demand accountability. Special Prosecutor.