Many people surmise the Trump administration is unaware of the ongoing MAGA backlash to the DOJ and FBI position on matter of Jeffrey Epstein.
For a significant -albeit unknown- portion of President Trump’s support base, the case against Jeffrey Epstein was/is a strong part of how they positioned their MAGA support. That coalition is now furious and threatening to withdraw support for President Trump on all other policy areas.
Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche affirmed today the conclusions within the DOJ/FBI memo about the Epstein matter are factually the conclusions shared by all leadership within the Dept of Justice and FBI.
[SOURCE]
Attorney General Pam Bondi, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino are all telling the same story.
There is trouble afoot.
~ Amid the tales of Rome, the colosseum held a very fickle crowd.
Brutus and Cassius enter the Forum with a crowd of plebeians. Cassius exits to speak to another portion of the crowd. Brutus addresses the crowd from the stage, assuring them that they may trust in his honor. He did not kill Caesar out of a lack of love for him, he says, but because his love for Rome outweighed his love of a single man. He insists that Caesar was great but ambitious: it was for this reason that he slew him. He feared that the Romans would live as slaves under Caesar’s leadership.
He asks if any disagree with him, and none do. He thus concludes that he has offended no one and asserts that now Caesar’s death has been accounted for, with both his virtues and faults in life given due attention. Antony then enters with Caesar’s body. Brutus explains to the crowd that Antony had no part in the conspiracy but that he will now be part of the new commonwealth. The plebeians cheer Brutus’s apparent kindness, declaring that Brutus should be Caesar. He quiets them and asks them to listen to Antony, who has obtained permission to give a funeral oration. Brutus exits.
Antony ascends to the pulpit while the plebeians discuss what they have heard. They now believe that Caesar was a tyrant, and that Brutus did right to kill him. But they wait to hear Antony.
He asks the audience to listen, for he has come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. He acknowledges Brutus’s charge that Caesar was ambitious and maintains that Brutus is “an honorable man,” but he says that Caesar was his friend (III.ii.84).
He adds that Caesar brought to Rome many captives, whose countrymen had to pay their ransoms, thus filling Rome’s coffers. He asks rhetorically if such accumulation of money for the people constituted ambition.
Antony continues that Caesar sympathized with the poor: “When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept” (III.ii.88). He reminds the plebeians of the day when he offered the crown to Caesar three times, and Caesar three times refused. Again, he ponders aloud whether this humility constituted ambition. He claims that he is not trying to disprove Brutus’s words but rather to tell them what he, Antony, knows; he insists that as they all loved Caesar once, they should mourn for him now.
Antony pauses to weep. The plebeians are touched; they remember when Caesar refused the crown and wonder if more ambitious people have not stepped into his place. Antony speaks again, saying that he would gladly stir them to mutiny and rebellion, though he will not harm Brutus or Cassius, for they are—again—honorable men.
Anthony then brings out Caesar’s will. The plebeians beg him to read it. Antony says that he should not, for then they would be touched by Caesar’s love for them. They implore him to read it. He replies that he has been speaking too long—he wrongs the honorable men who have let him address the crowd. The plebeians call the conspirators traitors and demand that Antony read the will.
Finally, Antony descends from the pulpit and prepares to read the letter to the people as they stand in a circle around Caesar’s corpse. Looking at the body, Antony points out the wounds that Brutus and Cassius inflicted, reminding the crowd how Caesar loved Brutus, and yet Brutus stabbed him viciously.
He tells how Caesar died, and blood ran down the steps of the Senate. Then he uncovers the body for all to see.
The plebeians weep and become enraged. Antony says that they should not be stirred to mutiny against such “honourable men” (III.ii.148). He protests that he does not intend to steal away their hearts, for he is no orator like Brutus. He proclaims himself a plain man; he speaks only what he knows, he says—he will let Caesar’s wounds speak the rest. If he were Brutus, he claims, he could urge them to rebel, but he is merely Antony.
The people declare that they will mutiny nonetheless. Antony calls to them to let him finish: he has not yet read the will. He now reads that Caesar has bequeathed a sum of money from his personal holdings to every man in Rome. The citizens are struck by this act of generosity and swear to avenge this selfless man’s death. Antony continues reading, revealing Caesar’s plans to make his private parks and gardens available for the people’s pleasure.
The plebeians can take no more; they charge off to wreak havoc throughout the city. Antony, alone, wonders what will come of the mischief he has set loose on Rome.
Octavius’s servant enters. He reports that Octavius has arrived at Caesar’s house, and also that Brutus and Cassius have been driven from Rome.
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- Caesar, Trump
- Brutus, Bondi
- Cassius, Patel
- Anthony, Musk
Disgusting.
Not the ship you want to go down with.
I no longer trust anyone in this administration.
Are u aware of any conversation on earth that talks of one minute of video missing.
Watergate ?
That Pam Bondi spoke of regarding Epstein’s cell video surveillance. See below
Rosemary Woods and her foot-pedal controlled tape recorder.
Yes, I think Bondi addressed that issue. Essentially, she said it is a technical matter and happens on every tape cycle.
What’s your feeling on that retarded response to video surveillance of his cell
A smart person would have stated that fact when the tapes came out.
You will have to present evidence that Bondi’s assertion about the missing minute on videos is a false statement before I’d accept your characterization of it as “retarded.”
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What is retarded is that this procedure to ‘reset every 24 hours’ is so very antiquated in this day and age, so as to rationalize why there is a missing minute every 24 hours leaves the rationalizer looking quite inept, appeasing, un-credible, and stupid . . .
Remember in which city and state where that surveillance recorder was located, and which political party is in charge there. Not retarded, state-of-the-art to idiot Democrats.
Here is a very compelling breakdown of how weak the video in question even is
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1943309738269110540
Uhhh, wow. And no one else has caught this.
It’s inconvenient to the nothing to see here donald trump has more important things to do crowd
Maybe you should present evidence of the truth of her assertation.
Some things are absurd on their face. The missing minute explanation is one of them.
In this country people are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Being you’re the ones charging her you have to prove her guilt.
I’m neutral as a matter of fact. That’s because I haven’t seen any hard evidence that supports either side. Just a lot of opinions and speculation. None of us knows precisely what President Trump knows versus what he doesn’t know. There’s been a lot of speculation about that as well.
So make your case, Mr./ Ms. Prosecutor..
Check out this BBC story from 10 Jan 2020.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51053205
First we were told that we were given the video. Then we find out that the video is from the wrong floor. Then they told us that the correct video was destroyed “accidentally” (in 2020).
Now, they try to foist on us the wrong floor video from 5 years ago and think no one will notice. Not only do people notice, but there are 61 seconds missing.
They know they are lying. We know they are lying. They know we know they are lying.
We must never forget when we are being lied to, who, when and about what. You can never trust those people or the institutions they represent again.
Bondi has not only dirtied her own reputation, but that of the DOJ and FBI as well. We thought that Trump was appointing trustworthy people. We know now that nothing Bondi says can be trusted.
The video itself is bullcrap besides a bullcrap explanation of the minute
The last guy that had 18 minutes missing lost his job.
I would strongly suggest checking out Benny Johnson’s breakdown of how flimsy that video is
You would, would you? Then how about a link to Benny Johnson’s breakdown?
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1943309738269110540
It was about 6 post up
Let me know what you think
A confluence indeed of war, justice and health. Criminals everywhere. The country needs a major conviction.
Well…bye!
And – just like that – the masses fell for it. . . .
Exactly.
Lemmings
I see no one falling for this. What I see is media silence.
Were this any other rejection of the administration by the base, they would be dancing and singing about it. The late night talk shows would have “Dancing Elephants” celebrating the downfall of Trump.
They don’t know what to think or say about this. They have a sense of what the truth always was and a sense of dread that the truth would be produced under Trump. If you think that MAGA’s reaction is “strong” I direct you to a stunned media who no longer knows what to think about this. They have no script. No talking points. Nothing to say about this. And that should tell you something.
What should it tell you? Maybe they don’t think this is over. Maybe something that comes next will be quite by surprise. Perhaps in the dead of night, a massive midnight raid of the worst offenders collected one night in a moment unexpected.
The media has more faith in this administration than many of us here. They are dumbstruck and a bit terrified. And I hope there is good reason. And perhaps the reason for media’s silence is the silence of leaks from the USIC…? I don’t know… I’m speculating and daydreaming.
I’m probably in the minority because I’m not in the least bit angry at President Trump or Bondi or Patel or Bongino.
There’s waaaayyyy too much that has to be done for a MAGA-focused national economy, domestic policies, and geopolitical strategies to get bogged down over the dead pervert Epstein’s records.
I notice that there are a LOT of new unfamiliar names posting these anti-Trump comments intended to stir up discord and anti-Trump feelings.
Not me. I’m 100% supportive of Pres. Trump… which includes his appointed administration officials. He will let us know when any of his trusted officials has gone off the rails.
I’m in your camp Sir. However, pedophilia is an especially sickening act with the most vunerable & we were promised justice for the victims on the campaign trail. We all want these perps in prison where they belong. Someone on high pulled the plug. The last chapter of this snafu has yet to be written. I continue to trust President Trump & wait patiently.
I agree with you on the pedophilia topic. I also agree that a lot of so-far-untouchable high profile people have crossed that line repeatedly. Very possibly via Jeffrey Epstein’s operations.
But I also believe it very possible that all evidence of those arranged liaisons has been “disappeared” by agents in the government, or at best tucked away and saved as “ get out of jail free” passes for the future. So by the time Ms. Bondi arrived in DC, the infamous “file” was devoid of anything incriminatingly juicy.
My guess … the trail of pedophiles goes from Epstein’s Island directly to DC – with some detours to Hollywood – and involves VERY powerful people who will do ANYTHING to protect themselves.
I believe President Trump will do the right thing at the right time.
I agree … President Trump knows there are endless “threads” to be tied up … and that each thread – a loose end – must be tied at the right time, or much, if not all needing to be “tied up” could be compromised, or lost.
President Trump gets up everyday, to make America better today, than it was yesterday.
Just like the “masses” falling for the magical mRNA experimental shots for covid purposely mislabeled as a “vaccine”!!! JMO
Not the masses that comment on zerohedge, telegram, facebook,, not by a long shot.
Here’s the thing I don’t understand about the Epstein situation. Was he a terrible person who did terrible things? All signs point to yes. HOWEVER, if you believe any part of the wider conservative narrative about him (IC asset, deliberate blackmail operation, etc), the expectation that the truth would come out don’t make any sense.
If Epstein’s operation had the power that is attributed to it, how could any one man, even POTUS, do anything about it? If they’re willing to unalive the dude to keep things secret, why would anybody else allow that information to be released? If he was a certain country’s way of keeping our country in line, then surely that certain country would have the ability to prevent our country from releasing said information. Etc.
To be clear; I don’t like this either. Promises should not have been made around this subject.
But hanging your support for President Trump on this is illogical. By the internal logic of most of the various theories, no action was ever going to be possible.
Well said.
All signs point to him enjoying young girls and maintaining them for years , then expanding them to friends.
Very kind pimping situation . The kindest you could imagine.
If he did that with 18+, just imagine the care.
The pedophile angle that pisses most off is knowing how manipulatable these girls were.
It’s a unique form of this disgusting practice.
If they are planning on selling that the girls were willing participants and not really “children” angle-
Anyone attempting that will be hated more deeply than Epstein himself.
It’s disgusting either way.
But it’s distracts u from the catching the trafficking.that rapes and feeds them to animals
It appears the Trolls infesting this site – are pushing that suggestion … their agenda – a MAGA Civil War … Will. Not. Happen. !!!
what isn’t being discussed is the “rumor” of a couple of years ago that Epstein had a “ranch” in Nevada (? I think) where he kept girls, and that he was attempting to create a “master race” (his genes), etc.
I’m inclined to agree with Mike Benz; if Epstein was a blackmailer, he would have few friends and few associations. Instead, many wealthy people appear to have coveted his friendship.
I think it’s something more; maybe darker. I’ll bet former AG Bill Barr knows a thing or two
Former AG Bill Barr and his late Dad who hired Epstein when he was headmaster of the elite NY prep school know oodles. I believe the senior Barr worked in our government as an intelligence officer, the forerunner to the CIA.
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New Mexico, not Nevada.
Isn’t Elon doing the same right out in the open?
No, those women are all above the age of consent.
The Epstein business is dirty, certainly, but that’s not what undermined my support for Trump. It was his continued involvement in Ukraine, and then his taking credit for the assassinations of the Iranian negotiators, while still scheduling negotiations with them. Whether he was the mastermind behind that, or whether Israel did it on their own and Trump took credit to “save face”, as some folks call it… it doesn’t matter. He publicly owned it. The country now owns it. And that was a dishonorable thing.
The Epstein business simply adds to the disgust.
Give Russian Ukraine and lose ability to harass them to keep them from growing big and hurting u
Anything else?
Common sense
I don’t think Trump took credit for the attacks on military and political targets. He only stated in a light sort of way that they will no longer be negotiating. This thing was played right. Israel did the attacks. Trump then “cut the baby in half” to end the dispute between nations. And it’s OVER. There is no Iran except for what Iran becomes next and it won’t be the same Iran but it probably won’t be CIA-puppet Iran either.
Iran is/was run by a death cult. Islam is nothing else if it is followed faithfully and correctly. All other middle east countries seem more or less OK with leaving things as they are and making a lot of money in whatever ways they make money. The Houthis are still Houthis and I expect them to be dealt with more directly and probably even quietly. Hamas… not hearing much about them since Iran went quiet.
I have to wonder what you think honor is if you think bringing any sort of end to the horror show of Iran and all of the global problems it commanded.
Two points:
1. As you said, promises should not have been made around this subject. As much as I would have hated it, simply coming out and saying that they could not release any information about this due to national security concerns, ongoing investigation, fill-in-the-blank reason, would have been far better than what was done. The lying is what has destroyed the trust.
2. This is not even really about Epstein per se, as horrific as his crimes were. It is about our now non-existent justice system, one that is so-called two-tiered, that will never be restored. That coupled with the apparent illusions of the Office of the President & our consent to be governed have made this one heck of a week in hard truths.
He can’t say that, cause that is basically saying what he can’t say.
We can’t say he is ____ , is the same as saying he is.
I just want.to know if PDJT knows of the video glitch that any operator could easily use to shuffle out a person.
Simple phone surveillance of the sleeping guards would know their patterns.
So..
1) we know we have a video one minute video glitch that overwrites us sneaking or killing him
2) we know the guards surf this website or that one and appear no movement due to digital well being app monitoring of their movements ( steps etc)
The video with one minute missing is a red herring.
That video is of the wrong floor and wasn’t even of the room Epstein was murdered in.
You are correct… The issue is not really epstein and/or his past actions…
The REAL issue is the fact that an Administration that promised a return to law, order, and justice, is now refusing to prosecute various individuals simply because most of them are our politicians in “congress”.
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To me it’s about the evil monsters who were involved. Just because Epstein is dead doesn’t mean they have stopped their evil deeds. They continue.
Concur. I really don’t give 2 flying leaps about Epstein. But the truth on the ground is this. It is – by the administration’s own public telling – a litmus test for their transparency to many and, also for many, the shiny object that will determine their trust level of .GOV. Saying that they’re misguided in focusing on this is of no consequence; they’ve been told they’re of no consequence by the communists and other Uniparty members for decades. How this is handled will have a downstream effect they may not like.
Errata: I’m kinda surprised that .GOV designee hasn’t come out and said something like, “Well, it wasn’t a “list” as most think of a list. There are names throughout the documents that could be aggregated into a list, and that’s what we meant by “there’s no list.”
Your points are spot on! We were told there would be answers and then chastised for asking why answers were not forthcoming. People are not happy!
It’s because they can’t say anything about anything in a deleted video.
The deleted video ANSWER is that it’s a glitch in recording that happens EVERYDAY FOR THE SAME MINUTE that is known by everyone and don’t WORRY ABOUT IT cause is consistent and WAS NOT JUST THAT NIGHT.
Comprende?
No Comprende?
Or wrong?
If so let me learn
My take is that Trump is what we have and must be viewed in the light of the alternatives. From that perspective, he was and remains the best we can do.
I also agree that it is unrealistic for the public to have expected anything more ..
It is just too big .
If the base is going to remain fixated on this issue it will be to all our detriment.
I would hope people would not forget all of the blood,sweat, and tears President Trump endured just to get us to a point in time now where many positive things are happening .
I don’t want to see depravity go unpunished but I am more than willing to move on from this .
I want to look forward to a bright future for Donald Trump’s presidency and for the future of all the citizens of this great country we call The United States of America ,
Well said.
The positive things accepted, what good is ANY of this without a restored justice system? What future do you think a country like that can have, if there can even be a country?
Agreed
Epstein’s “workers” have had LOTS of things to say about what they were made to do and who they served.
You bet whatever they are up against is huge. I think the Trump team is throwing this out as they are with the intention of getting the public angry. I suspect leaks will come out to further fire up the public about this. If public rage never gets to a critical level, then that is how our “vote” will be counted.
I’ll say this plainly. The response from MAGA we see is EXPECTED by everyone. That includes Trump. He never joined in on the chants of “lock her up” though he did start it with that debate response. MAGA is and should be its own voice and Trump needs it to be heard…. not only while he’s THE MAN, but long after.
The shocking aspect about our CTH Congregation is that it is actually willing to renounce the entire MAGA movement if it cannot eat of the fruit from the forbidden tree, and such a posture as that certainly qualifies as pure hysteria!
Bondi didn’t have to lie to us! Why didn’t they just keep their mouths shut? I’ll tell you why. Trump already sold the information for votes on the BBB. He now has to signal publicly that he is fulfilling his part of the dirty bargain. Little girls will never get justice.
Kunstler this morning has a conjecture I find consistent with what I think fits the risible assertions of Bondi, Patel and Bongino.
“One thing about Epstein is likely certain: it was an intel operation. And one thing is probable: it was a joint operation between the CIA, Israel’s Mossad, and the UK’s MI6. The object: to get as many political poohbahs on-the-hook for disgraceful behavior of the lowest kind and blackmail-able. Under the thumb. Theories and suppositions abound.”
…”One story is that the actual Epstein material, whatever still exists, that is, which might reside in multiple locations, is so destructive to the architecture of global leadership that it must be squelched for the sake of majorly realigning forces, tensions, and polities across the Middle East, namely, the Abraham Accords. Getting all that lined up is more important to Mr. Trump for the moment than defenestrating the various perverts-in-office around Western Civ. It just is. . . so. . . gotta lump it.”
“Forget about Bondi’s gaffe. She is just following orders, as are Messrs. Patel and Bongino, standing down, good soldiers, and only on the Epstein business. “
https://www.kunstler.com/p/flux-rules
“Epstein?” “Was certain?” I frankly don’t believe a word he ever said.
I believe Kunstler has hit the nail on the head. People in power tend to think their stuff doesn’t stink and can get away with anything. That’s why they are called the “elites”, they are above it all and the plebes, you and I, just better shut up and take it. Why do the clintons, bidens, blinkens, mayorkass, obamas, mccords, comey, brennan, clapper and countless other washington denizens get away with everything? Add in the european elites also. If any of us did anything similar to what they did we’d be in prison. Example, look at how J6er’s were treated. Get with the program, there is an untouchable royal class in this country and europe.
Listen to the silence of the media on this topic. Where does the media get its talking points in this area? “Leaks”? Have the leakers gone silent? What is the reason Comey and Brennan are scared?
I think the fact that the media isn’t dancing gleefully while MAGA simmers over this is somehow meaningful.
a good read…thanks for sharing.
This is a likely scenario, but I believe this whole Epstein thing is being pushed hard by paid influencers from a certain group who meet in Sea Island, GA and other never-trumpers in an effort to fracture MAGA.
This reads like a monologue that might be narrated by Dr. Evil. It reads like something written by people who think they are too smart and creative like E.Jean Carrol. It’s an entertaining read and I think there’s good stuff in there. But it’s way too syrupy.
Help me if I’m wrong.
The full cabinet meeting had a video posted with it where I watched Pam Bondi appear to inform PDJT the first time of a one minute glitch where every day the video is overwritten for some unknown reason….
This was during the death of Epstein.
She said. Shes said this…. Paraphrasing – our evidence is conclusive up to that point ( the missing minute)
Our evidence is conclusive up to that point
Our evidence is conclusive up to that point that it was suicide.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/07/08/president-trump-appears-frustrated-about-continued-jeffrey-epstein-questions/
Takes less than a minute for someone to walk out of a cell alive.
Of course you want to be thought of as dead so people stop looking for you!
Like Osama Bin Laden, has anyone (other than the “medical examiner” actually seen Epstein’s body?
So you did hear her talk about it?
I provided the video, because I’m feeling like I’m in the twilight zone
Pam is a loser ___tch. That took the explanation of one minute is always deleted daily due to our recording process. And she moved on and fcked us.
But in the article about PDJT being pissed ( see my post) it looks like she accidentally got forced to talk of this FOR THE FIRST TIME to PDJT because duh, he can’t be involved with investigations.. it took a reporter to make the idiot speak of it in front of PDJT.
So now we know she took an excuse for a deleted minute of surveillance of his cell and said ‘ based on the evidence we have. UP TO THAT Point it is conclusive suicide ‘
Somebody watch it and confirm. Come on
Epstein is gone
We should pay for two planes over his rally with signs
Sign 1, we love your President Trump, so he comments
Sign 2, why is their one minute missing of video recording of epsteins cell that night
Where did he go?
Good question. No one is going to tell us.
Can you specifically confirm pam talked of one minute of video missing. If not, u are being abused mentally and have not been provided full details
At the time, the supposed body of Epstein being wheeled out to the mortuary was actually a photo of Hillary’s dead brother. The facial profile in that photo did indeed look like more like Hillary’s brother.
The nose of the “Epstein body” was not Epstein’s.
I remember all that clearly. Apparently it has all been cast into the Memory Hole.
All videos and images to us via news can be AI edited.
Reminds me of Brer Rabbit and the briar patch. (Pity that particular piece of literature is seen as non PC these days …)
This Epstein Travesty is the worst “Tar Baby” imaginable.
Perfect analogy.
President Trump needs to order the CIA to release the Epstein list and directly address the American people regarding the list. Yes, many big names will go down in flames, but let the chips fall where they may. This is necessary to cleanse the soul of our nation. President Trump needs to directly confront this issue with the entire nation instead of allowing his “friends” to insult the intelligence of the American people.
Disappointed ? yes.. But I’m still with Trump 200%.
That’s simply what it has to be. Otherwise, ‘they’ take over again and we know what that looks like.
Its clear to all of us the level of depravity globalist scum are wrapped up in. Just look at the crap being revealed about the Macrons. The level of perversion is mind numbing.
There will come a day they will all be held to account – if its not on this side of life, it will be on the other and for all Eternity.
But to engage in the knee jerk, “Oh, I’m pulling my support from PDJT” is only to invite further depravity.
Who else is there?
Anyone else who has put all on the line for the country he loves and her citizens which are considered the disgusting untermensch by that repellent class which consider themselves divinely selected and therefore absolved from their actions?
I see no one.
What I do see so far is the same nameless entrenched mob which wishes him gone. They failed to accomplish this from day one of President Trump’s term having tried everything from soup to nuts to assassination on live television.
Machinations so evil which didn’t work. So on to plan whatever letter we’ve reached. “E” it seems by my reckoning…
I remain firm as well…
(By the way, while I am not suggesting anything, nothing from an unusually silent Vance? Not a peep. Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice. And to continue with another literary reference, I don’t hear that particular dog barking. Don’t slam me on this one. Brutus Pence hasn’t been gone that long.)
You are not wrong, Betsy. There is no one else who even comes close. As I stated yesterday, I am stunned by the actual depths some will sink to in order for their hands to remain in the “Trillions At Stake” bucket.
“The List” (short song sums it up)
About all I can say at this point is: “Let’s see what happens.”
President Trump needs to be truthful. He is the President. The buck stops with him.
Maybe he can’t be transparent YET. This doesn’t stop the world from spinning, but revealing the truth very much could bring down our government or world governments. It’s like saying, “let’s just let WW3 happen and get it over with!” Do we REALLY want that right now? I have ZERO reason to doubt Trump’s thinking and I will gladly give him the benefit of the doubt because we don’t know everything that he probably does surrounding this case. Epstein was slime and he deserved to die, although I think he may very well be alive. Millions of dollars could have easily purchased his escape. And I want all the perverts brought to justice in the most vicious way. But PERHAPS Trump needs this to wait until things in Russia or the Middle East or something else we don’t have a clue about, first settles down. Something more important that NEEDS to happen and this would up end that. Just a thought.
Nothing better for the whole world, than to have certain governments “brought down”.
I have to wonder what could be more important than the life of Virginia Giuffre – given that she recently killed herself – and while not certain one would imagine from reading a bit about her life that the whole ‘Epstein’/Prince Andrew thing was a major factor in messing up her life. And so with all the other victims of this heinous operation Epstein ran – how many are to be left without justice, perhaps to kill themselves as well -that would tilt the scales towards perhaps placing their interest above whatever mater is causing Trump to agree with blocking any prosecution of the perpetrators of these crimes. A few honorable associates don’t have to answer a few questions honestly? The guilty never serve time? The victims continue to be victims their whole life? Sorry. This decision is NOT MAGA – its swamp and completely immoral and wrong. No way around that. If you cannot do both you don’t belong in that job.
Truthful about what?
That you’d rather hear of him being snuck out during a 1 minute.glitch delete to aid in no nuke .for Iran and Israel shutting up for a long time to return this favor?
“Therefore, you now declare, less than ninety days in,” that two of Trump’s appointed subordinates, and a third which rode along for the ride, are “to be the end of it all.” Let us now hurry to repent of our ways, and beg the losers to reclaim the game. Let us confess thereby to the entire world that we lack the ability to govern ourselves.
“Forbid it, Almighty God!”
Fair weather patriots only here.
Seems like you missed the point of my literary reference. * mischievous good-natured grin * Would stick around to explain but my lunch break is over.
I don’t see that he was replying to you at all.
Not at all. Just old-fashioned. DJT has been right about everything and I think we owe him a “yes sir”, “understood sir” and “will do, sir”.
Nonsense. There is discussion. It doesn’t impinge on support.
I read a few “all is lost” attitudes. Can’t tolerate that stuff.
Frighteningly apt parallel. We have serious issues with this DOJ/FBI that transcend mere incompetence.
I always said Susie Wiles is Brutus. Evidently she is much more treacherous as she set up Bondi for that role. A woman who had no problem prosecuting a transparently innocent man for murder and creating fake evidence and witnesses, she won’t blink when she shoves the proverbial knife into President Trump’s back. Methinks that has already begun.
All eyes on Susie Wiles…
Bondi needs to go….she is not capable.
So he Still can’t surround himself with legit MAGA in the most strategic positions? Bill Barr 2.0.
President Trump got advice from people he trusted, including his own son Don Jr. The silo around then-candidate, and now-President, Trump has ALWAYS been THE MOST tightly controlled silo ever to exist.
In President Trump’s circle legit MAGA only exists within his immediate family of Melania and Barron, and 2 others, Dan Scavino and Stephen Miller. Everyone else is enjoying their ride on the coattails.
Just posted on X by Collin Rugg that Axios reported that Bonjino took the day off after an intense discussion/argument with Bondi’s on her handling of the Epstein issue-Over promising and under delivering. Rumor was he was about to resign.
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If the decision is that the Trump administration loses either FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, or AG Pam Bondi…
…you have to keep Mr. Bongino.
There is nothing wrong with Bondi’s job performance in the day-to-day, defending Trump’s policies in court, etc.
The problem is if the Epstein situation lowers morale and causes internal battles. That is just as important as the day-to-day.
So, if this can’t be resolved, go with Dan.
Pam isn’t a bad person, she isn’t even a bad attorney general. But the horrific handling of expectations and the Epstein timeline is clearly doing some damage here.
Did he just blink torture in Morse Code?
What proof do you have that she “isn’t a bad person”?
Eric is a dumbass.
I’ve never been told there is a missing minute of video, and it followed bye saying oh ok that is fine, I will say up to that point I conclude it suicide
If a person isnt pissed reading this, what do they even care about this topic for.
Bitch about President Trump and not know about the one minute video deletion and I could give a damn what that person thinks
Links have been provided. Prove me wrong
“There is nothing wrong with Bondi’s job performance in the day-to-day, defending Trump’s policies in court, etc.”
Considering how her DOJ continues prosecuting victims of Biden’s DOJ — yes, actually, there is.
Just saw a similar story posted on the Gateway Pundit and Liberty Daily.
DOJ and FBI not hooked at the hip on this issue and with Dershowitz coming out with his statements that there is a lot of There There on the Epstein story that many high level people in government and private sector were involved and it’s being covered up.
Well then He will restore some of his interigity if he does that.. He chose is to lie
or resign lets see what he does..
NEWSMAX: “Where are you on Pam Bondi resigning?”
BILL O’REILLY: “No, I’m not going to condemn Pam Bondi because she takes orders from the White House.
She doesn’t make unilateral decisions.
She does what she’s told to do.
That’s the way President Trump runs the administration.
“None of the Cabinet heads make independent decisions.
They all come out of the West Wing in the White House—all of them.
So, you could sacrifice her. But it is a bad look for Donald Trump.
You can’t justify not being more upfront about a case that’s captured the attention of millions of Americans.”
Bill O’Reilly? He hs his own skeletons that might cloud his judgement.
He should have resigned and saved his credibility, which is now nonexistent.
twitter Julie Kelly
Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real.
This has been brewing for four months and came to a head at the White House on Wednesday.
He has not been in the office since.
Most of the frustration at FBI relates to her handling of Epstein disclosures and disputes between FBI and Bondi about how to proceed.
Bongino appears ready to resign imminently if Bondi remains in office.
There is no question that the base is behind Bongino.
I respect Pam Bondi and understand the immense challenge at taking the reins of such a systemically corrupt agency.
But the self inflicted wounds and unforced errors are consuming attention away from other DOJ/FBI achievements.
Time is ticking away and something drastic needs to change immediately.
Very tough call for White House right now.
I don’t see any way Bondi survives this long term, the base won’t tolerate it.
So do they lose Bongino (maybe Kash?) in the short term and her in the not so distant future?
Or do they rip the bandaid off now and let Kash and Dan do their thing with a new boss.
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1943723541251125605
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Who is Octavius?
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In my view, JD is Octavius.
Then begs the question: who is Octavius’ servant?
My opinion:
‘Suzie Wileys’.
Speaking of JD…Where’s he been lately?
IMHO.
Rubio
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
Something is not right. Who to trust? Perhaps Bannon is correct, appoint a special prosecutor who reports only to the President.
Yes, exactly. The President? Or the IC? People and governments are watching.
Personally I hate Bannon’s idea of another special prosecutor. I think we’d just throw another 40 million out the window and the story would be buried for another year or two. This time for good. To me the only way is for Trump to tell Bondi to release the info or he has to fire her. The DOJ has to be gutted, every AG cannot suck this bad. At best they are just useless figureheads.
So let me see if I have this correct. You trust the word of Bannon who was thrown out of Trump’s inner circle and NEVER allowed back in over the man you voted for several times?
I trust Bannon, yes. More than Bannon think a special prosecutor is needed. In my book, several (2020 Election/Laptop and “Russia, Russia, Russia.”) As best I can recall the President has no truled out a special prosecutor. Bannon is not in the White House but he does have the President’s ear from time to time. Bannon has always had, and continues to have, the President’s back.
“A fickel crowd”? In recent weeks it sure sounds to me like the Tree House is representative of that viewpoint.
The truth has no agenda.
IOW, I will not subvert my desire for the truth regardless of whether it casts certain members of this administration in a bad light.
The past decade has proven that we cannot trust our government and there are very few true patriots working within government ranks.
We have a short period of time with a Trump Administration to affect the changes needed to right our disastrously off course ship.
100%! … Hoosier, I think (?) it was you, who noted yesterday – ‘ Russia, N Korea…other major players throughout the world who know the truth…’. Your comment led me to question – “How does it benefit Americans, to be ignorant of truth if adversarial nations/power brokers aren’t? I can’t think of legitimate reason.
Well “hoosiertruthfan” (and R Green and as of this posting your 16 likes) you are absolutely right, it has been 5 whole months and the world reamins imperfect (with the help of the embedded deep state) so I join you – crucify them all!
Either they lie to protect people, nations, Or it Could be the Deep State destroyed all incriminating evidence awhile ago, so they aren’t lying.
Either way fresh air and sunshine is best. The way it’s going, this bunch is no better than Comey, Strzok, Brennan, in the trust phase.
If the blackmailers are protecting the identity of the blackmailed, then perhaps some very good evidence exists on who the blackmailers are. Oh, spit! That would mean the blackmailers are themselves blackmailable. Might work out nicely. Hehe.
I’m wondering if a big part of the problem is that the evidence has been in deep state hands for so long now that it has been thoroughly sanitised, and/or falsified legal landmines inserted. So that successful prosecution becomes very unlikely and exposure opens the government to lawsuits.
Might be better to just wash our hands of the entire sorry Epstein affair and concentrate on finding and prosecuting his replacment(s) and their customers, using evidence with a clean chain of custody.
My thoughts exactly. If his money came from the CIA to create blackmail for their purposes, then it was never “his” list.
What if there is no list (someone grabbed it)?
What if the list is a mix of fabricated blackmail (people put on list to blackmail them) and actual people who could be blackmailed? How would you release the list, with asterisks?
Was his behavior disgusting, yes. Do I think people know or care about it much, NO.
What if PDJT had a choice between getting the BBB passed and tax cuts made permanent with ability to secure the border or release the Epstein list — what would matter more to the average American?
It is against the law for a federal law enforcement officer to ignore a crime. The doj/fbi are ignoring known crimes.
They swear an oath to enforce the law… If they ignore a crime, they break their oath…
and that may be what is crawling up Bonginos backside
lying bastards got paid off.. bill gates didn’t give 50m to ka ma la for nothing
It seems to me we’re in a mess – hopefully we will get out of it, although unlikely in my life time. So in the meantime I plan on leaning on the Lord as He knows and He loves His children.
So, if we’re lie enough, surely we wil all bow to the wise ones. Nope. In fact the more lies, the more insulting. You got a reason not to tell, then tell us the reason. We’ve seen and heard too much to believe its a nothing burger.
Gateway Pundit points out that Ghislane Maxwell’s defense team received a huge amount of documents for her defense not necessarily related to pedos / child porn. Article goes on to mention that DOJ could chase down a number of areas related to Epstein’s activities that weren’t related to minor abuse. Citations with case number is within the linked article.
GP’s contention is that there are mounds of docs still around, not necessarily destroyed.
Concern: This may weaken the President’s power and embolden some who have been afraid to challenge him within the party and the Dem opposition. Is Mr. Trump giving the orders on this subject or do we have another potential rebellion as Sundance offers?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/epstein-horrors-official-sleight-hand-about-millions-pages/
Great analogy, but I would slot Ratcliffe in as Cassius. Patel is too dumb while Ratcliffe aspires for power.
” Seldom he smiles, and smiles in such a sort as if he mocked himself and scorned his spirit that could be moved to smile at anything. Such men as he be never at heart’s ease whiles they behold a greater than themselves, And therefore are they very dangerous…”
Ratcliffe will NEVER move against the interest of Langley because it is the source of his power.
Romans 13:1…For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” – Romans 13:1
The least of these is Anthony.
For the record, I fully support Trump. Period.
I am with you in support of the President. He has tasks and challenges so monumental that we have no detailed insight about.
Former Republican; Independent now. Trump is a complex man but his great and possibly fatal weakness is his susceptibility to false praise and flattery due to his dominant narcissistic personality that obscures his ability to achieve clear analysis. Politicians deserve loyalty based on their actions; not their statements and humans are brutally fickle in their support based on their own foibles and self interest. This alone won’t destroy his political support but he has insufficient political capital to just give it away IMO. Brutal is a inadequate adjective for this circumstance.
The only thing I can hope is that Trump is trying to get the traitorous commies out of the gov before moving forward.
This bothers me only because of how ridiculously false it is. They have the girls. The only way they wouldn’t have a client list is if all the johns were wearing Richard Nixon masks while doing the deed.
But in the grand scheme of things, I’m more concerned with (in order):
You know, how do you not be in awe of President Trump. I don’t see how he can handle and try to correct the overwhelming corruption in DC, institutions, state and local governments, private sector corporations, media, international organizations and governments, etc.
He is trying to correct so much that is bad in this world and yet 90% of everything are trying to stop him anyway they can.
Seems like every day something or some issue hits the news that is bad such that they can pile on President Trump.
He gets little, hardly any support from the so-called Republicans. It’s like pushing a rope trying to get this country back on track.
I don’t see how he handles it.
Owen Shroyer found the link between President Trump and the Law Firm that secured Epstein’s sweetheart work release deal when he should have spent the rest of his life in prison.
Lawyers for that Firm included, but are not limited to Bill Barr, Brett Kavanaugh, and former Labor Secretary Alex Acosta.
This was within the first 30 minutes of today’s InfoWars.
MAGA was fun while it lasted.
“For a significant -albeit unknown- portion of President Trump’s support base, the case against Jeffrey Epstein was/is a strong part of how they positioned their MAGA support. That coalition is now furious and threatening to withdraw support for President Trump on all other policy areas.”
I have to rake issue with this observation, as it implies that a large % of Trump supporters were supporters BECAUSE of the Epstein issue. I disagree.
I submit that very few true Trump supporters were motivated to support him because of the Epstein issue.
Which isn’t to say that this issue wasn’t important to many. However: there are so many other issues that secured MY support of Trump that if he doesn’t fully do what I would like on it —- that alone won’t reduce my support one iota.
The guy is beating the stuffing out of the Left on so many fronts! Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good!
Or as SD said: “Trump will deliver OPTIMAL solutions, not perfect ones”.
Grasshopper: I guess i would put a finer point on it. It’s not that a large % of MAGA were Trump supporter because of the Epstein issue per se. I think they were/are Trump supporters because they wanted to see 1) the Swamp drained; 2) a return to a real “nobody is above the law” mentality; and 3) the IC brought to heel. Some wanted him to go so far as to use the same Lawfare tactics that we all deplored, as “Deplorables,” on our own enemies.
The Epstein Issue is the flashpoint that has many saying: nothing has changed, Trump is not delivering on 1-3 above.
I rather like your finer point BNG 🙂
Epstein issue had nothing to do with my vote for Trump. Epstein issue is included in all other Clinton inspired “suicides” like Seth Rich.
I was surprised the AG led with Epstein in the first place. Lots of other crimes are more important right now.
I was surprised the AG led with Epstein in the first place. Lots of other crimes are more important right now.
Blondi’s albatross.
0.o
Epstein issue was not on my own priority list. Didn’t ever expect a client list to be revealed.
The one negative thought I have about the situation is the handling relative to not producing the list….and PDJT is part of the handling debacle.
Caesar got knifed by friends. Trump knifed himself.
Bongino has Cesarian Sectioned himself.
“The Jeffrey Epstein Case Is Far Bigger Than Jeffrey Epstein”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/07/the_jeffrey_epstein_case_is_far_bigger_than_jeffrey_epstein.html
Imo the DOJ and FBI are still to this day jam packed with anti Trump people , there was never mass purging’s at either agency .
I kept a past post by Sundance that bears repeating.
I am not so versed in predictions and the elaborate scheming of the mighty, my choice, my duty, AND my joy is to continue to feel and show unwavering support for President Trump. He knows much that we don’t know and dropping support even one iota because of mindless chattering is not on my to do list.
Not because I’d be the member of a cult, like we’re often accused by obamista and bidenista and kamalista zombies, but because SO FAR NOTHING that President Trump said or didn’t say, did or didn’t do raises anywhere close to a level which would threaten my support.
That would not be impossible to happen but, in a phrase dear to washingtonians [the hellhole, not the president], I won’t deal in hypotheticals.
I am MAGA all the way. More aligned with President Trump than ever.
Okay, I really don’t understand this at all. I mean I understand the reading of it, but I don’t understand the point of it. What’s the point Mr. Sundance (of writing this at all)?
A warning for President Trump and the world wide audience that he has enemies among his trusted staff who think they would be doing the world a favor by destroying President Trump and with that our hope for the future?
A conservative lawyer friend of mine seems to be jumping off the Trump train, but he’s ticked becaused there is no other train. He said,
“He made no effort to carry out his social security no tax pledge.
He’s not touched Obamacare
He made temp cuts in spending with no effort to codify those cuts. He’s increasing the debt by trillions.
He increased defense spending to over $1 trillion he flip flopped on deporting farm laborers and hotel staff.
I don’t know if he’s joined the deep state or if he is just a phony. He’s better than the alternative but we deserve much better”
Another friend says everybody chill out. There’s a reason the Epstien files and information is not being used: Leverage
Me: I feel sure he knows there is more to the Epstien story, and would explain. He may yet in the future. There has to be more information, but I want to listen to his words carefully: what he doesn’t say as much as what he says.
Maybe after seeing what they did to Tulsi, POTUS is upping the hardball ante. Playing along with the “report” that the internal IC has given them, and “dutifully” announcing what they have. There has to be more. Everyone knows it. But the dammed up information has potential power, and perhaps Kash, Bondi, Bongino all know there is more, but it is the IC spooks/traitors that are holding the information back. If there is a list of culpable Epstien clients, and they know POTUS knows how to release the information — they will NEVER sleep easy — and would be much more malleable and unable to as confidently mount opposition to the MAGA/Trump agenda.
I continue to pray, be ready, live my best life. And yes, my powder is dry.
And…. if the above scenario is true, then POTUS has power over the original blackmailee victims of Epstien – but also the Blackmailers – whoever orchestrated all of this. Where is Ghislane? Isn’t she still locked up? Available for chatting?
Ok then, President Trump is the most powerful man on earth. He has the support of most if not all the US military. So, end all this by sending an Infantry Division to Langley and take care of bidness. The IC cannot cause all this trouble if they are no longer in existence! They have to be rebuilt from scratch, except for the cia, no rebuilding them, they need to be totally gone forever along with the fbi. So, get them out of power right now! Today! There should have been a massive purge on Day 1. Trump nor anyone else can MAGA if the traitors are left in power\office\walking around free to operate at will. Lock them ALL up. Problem solved. THAT is the level of action that is required to fix America. Wishing it weren’t so, doesn’t solve anything. And start at the head of the snake, not the little guys. Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, IC, State, FBI and others should be the first to be rounded up. Then show the cold hard truth to the American people along with proof. Making deals, chipping away at the edges has not & will not work. Trump’s first term is proof of that. Are we going to save America or not!? NOTHING should be off the table!
yes, I think Trump may be setting up some leverage also. My complaint is that Blondi Barbi mishandled the whole thing starting with the Phase 1 document she handed out., then the “its on my desk” etc. She is dumb and thinks we are dumb.
Sundance, hold you see Elon Musk as Anthony? I don’t get that, given your previous posts. And most importantly, who do you see as Octavius?
Interesting Parable !?!
Musk is no Marc Antony. He couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Promises made.
Promises kept.
Not.
U have less info . As a result u are prone to shoot my foot
Regardless of any of this, and we are just as disgusted as anyone else is over Trump’s refusal to carry out this campaign probmise , it beats anything a Camela Harris, or any other Democrat would have brought into office
As others have no doubt pointed out by now, we are expected to now believe that Ghislane Maxwell went to prison for trafficking children to…?…nobody!
The people who were involved with Epstein must be so powerful/elite – and what they did is so monstrous – that the prospect of public executions of prominent Americans and the collapse of the DC child sex trade mean we have to swallow complete bullshit.
Bullshit that includes what we now know were outright lies by the AG, FBI Dir., and FBI DD. For the current bullshit story to be true means Blondi was bullshitting everyone last Spring, for example.
There is no chance – ZERO – that Maxwell and Epstein were engaged in child sex trafficking that didn’t involve any customers. ZERO.
The most likely names on that list are Senators who chair DC’s biggest committees, prominent media personalities, tech moguls, and unelected senior military and other bureaucrats.
There is also the slim possibility that the most damning evidence was destroyed. But if that were true, they can’t admit it because that means opening an investigation that DC wants closed asap.
Epstein and Ukraine are going to sink Trump. The coverup of the former is standard DC bullshit. The steady stupid drift into war with Russia – that the ENTIRE NATION OPPOSES – is the other.
Prominent religious leaders are no doubt on the list as well.
Hokkoda: My own view is that the “who” is less important (although not to diminish it at all), than the “how” which is really what they need to bury. If, as is likely, he was a tool of the IC across multiple countries, then admitting that the Gov’t aided and abetted a pervert like Epstein would completely blow up the IC in a very public and no way to defend manner.
It would be like the CIA finally coming out and saying: “yep, we killed Kennedy.” Who actually pulled the trigger or set up the Op would be buried under the headline.
Yes, the Russia/Ukraine flip flopping is hard to understand. I’m afraid he is going to be blamed if the situation continues to spiral down.
I know that humans sexual drive is an overpowering physical force necessary for procreation of the human race. It was implemented by God to be intensely pleasurable. We all know the feeling. What is it that makes perversions like child rape, beastiality, pedophilia, and so on so uncontrollably rampant with people in power and control? I guess nobody knows that answer, but it is obvious that these illicit desires and actions are so repugnant that the vast majority of humanity agrees that it deserves severe punishment towards the perverts committing the crimes. I do not believe that our American lawmakers and officials should sweep this crime under the carpet.
Videos…..Epstein had his houses wired for video……watch the videos…..get leads……
Meta data for confirmation and execute search warrants….arrest and prosecute some people.
The Epstein pedophile mess is starting to prove that some people are above the law. That the law serves “just us”…..
the rich and powerful…..
“We the People” be damned.
I’m disappointed in Trump45/47 and his people.
Got in on the tail end of Shroyer’s program and that was what he was saying.
If they are covering up because the guilty are elites in the financial and political world its not right. The way he said it hit home. So of like if its not right that if you a creepy poor creep you go to jail, but if a creepy rich creep you can keep on being a creep.(my own paraphrase).