Despite the FBI saying there are no connections between the New Orleans terrorist attack and the Las Vegas attack at Trump hotel, alarming connections continue to be made by the public between both the New Orleans attack using a truck which killed 15 people, and the Las Vegas attack using a truck that was unsuccessful (except in killing the driver).
NEW ORLEANS – Shamsud-Din Jabbar, the 42-year-old Texas man accused of crashing a truck into New Year’s Day revelers in New Orleans, killing 15 and injuring dozens of people, served in the U.S. Army for 13 years including a deployment to Afghanistan, the Army said. (read more)
LAS VEGAS – According to senior law enforcement sources, 37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger was the driver and had several Colorado Springs addresses associated with him. […] “Master Sgt. Matthew Alan Livelsberger enlisted as an 18X and served in the active duty Army from January 2006 to March 2011. Livelsberger then joined the National Guard from March 2011 to July 2012, followed by the Army Reserve from July 2012 to December 2012. He entered the active duty Army in December 2012 and was a U.S. Army Special Operations Soldier.” “Additionally, U.S. Army Special Operations Command can confirm Livelsberger was assigned to the command and on approved leave at the time of his death.
According to early media reporting, Matt Livelsberger, aka Matt Berger, was on duty station in Germany and on leave at the time of his death in Las Vegas. His wife was reportedly unaware of his location. After the Tesla Truck Explosion in Las Vegas, officials are saying that they found a Military Identification, Desert Eagle pistol, an SLR B-30 AR Pattern Rifle, an IPhone, and a Smart watch all in Matthew Livelsberger’s name. Also, Livelsberger had sustained one gunshot wound to the head.
From Paul Sperry: “Federal records reveal the anti-Trump ex-wife of suspect who detonated a Cybertruck bomb outside the Trump Hotel in Vegas donated cash to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) around the same time as the Bourbon Street terrorist’s donation to the DCCC.” (link)
[SOURCE]
Both attacks happened within hours of each other on the same day. Both attacks were carried out by U.S. Army servicemembers. Both Army Vets attended Fort Bragg (Fort Liberty) at the same time. Both attacks used EV trucks (F150 EV and Tesla Cyber Truck). Both trucks were rented with the same app Turo. Both attacks had similar IED explosives as part of the attack. The FBI claim there is no connection.
Coincidentally a U.S Army Soldier was recently arrested [PDF HERE] for hacking the phone data of President Donald Trump:
US Army soldier who allegedly stole Trump’s AT&T call logs arrested – A US Army soldier has been arrested in Texas after being indicted on two counts of unlawful transfer of confidential phone records information.
While the indictment [PDF] doesn’t specify any hacking activity or victims’ names, Cameron John Wagenius, 20, is suspected of being a cybercriminal known as Kiberphant0m, who claimed to have breached at least 15 telecommunications firms including AT&T and Verizon, according to KrebsOnSecurity.
Wagenius is allegedly an associate of Connor Riley Moucka, one of the men accused of compromising multiple organizations’ Snowflake-hosted environments, stealing sensitive customer data housed in the cloud storage service, and then extorting victims for millions of dollars.
Infosec journalist Brian Krebs spoke with Wagenius’ mother, Alicia Roen, who said her son worked on radio signals and network communications at an Army base in South Korea.
[…] On November 6, shortly after Moucka’s arrest, Kiberphant0m bragged on BreachForums about stealing AT&T call logs for President-elect Donald Trump and for Vice President Kamala Harris. The crook threatened to leak all of the call logs unless AT&T contacted either Kiberphant0m or Reddinton, and signed the post “#FREEWAIFU.”
The identity of Reddinton remains unknown.
According to the court documents, on or about November 6, Wagenius did “knowingly and intentionally sell and transfer, and attempt to sell and transfer, confidential phone records information of a covered entity, without prior authorization from the customer to whom such confidential phone records information was obtained fraudulently.”
Wagenius appeared in a Texas court on December 20, and federal prosecutors requested his extradition to Washington state (more)
With Louisiana as the home state of Speaker Mike Johnson, and with the Cyber Truck (Musk) being used to attack a President Trump property, the obvious concern about political attacks in advance of President Trump’s second term are obvious. (Except, apparently, to the FBI)
The fact that U.S. Army personnel are involved, and specifically from Fort Bragg which was the base identified as visited by former assassin Ryan Routh, makes the concerns all the more alarming.
PRESIDENT TRUMP – “Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World! This is what happens when you have OPEN BORDERS, with weak, ineffective, and virtually nonexistent leadership. The DOJ, FBI, and Democrat state and local prosecutors have not done their job. They are incompetent and corrupt, having spent all of their waking hours unlawfully attacking their political opponent, ME, rather than focusing on protecting Americans from the outside and inside violent SCUM that has infiltrated all aspects of our government, and our Nation itself. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen to our Country. The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it is too late. The USA is breaking down – A violent erosion of Safety, National Security, and Democracy is taking place all across our Nation. Only strength and powerful leadership will stop it. See you on January 20th. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (read more)
PRESIDENT TRUMP – […] “With the Biden “Open Border’s Policy” I said, many times during Rallies, and elsewhere, that Radical Islamic Terrorism, and other forms of violent crime, will become so bad in America that it will become hard to even imagine or believe. That time has come, only worse than ever imagined. Joe Biden is the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER. What he and his group of Election Interfering “thugs” have done to our Country will not soon be forgotten! MAGA” (LINK)
Appreciate ya
i smell rats…
i see rat pills…
i hear them rats chewing…
so these guys we got in the Army these days …
… are they fer us or agin us?
gnomesayin?
U.S. Army Soldier Arrested for Allegedly Hacking Trump and Kamala Harris’s Phones, Selling “Confidential Phone Records” Online
The bigger issue is the officer corps is corrupt and incompetent. While still in service they steer weapon contracts to certain corporations, and once out of service, they directly move onto these corporate boards.
Our military leadership is 100% in control of the strategic and overall operational control of the Kiev regime forces.
The ineptitude of how Kiev regime forces and resources are wasted is an epic failure. Reminiscent of the last 2 years of the Wermacht, fight for lost cities to the last man and bullet.
With the exception of the 1991 Kuwait operation, we have not won a single war since the Pacific War against Japan ending in 1945.
Living in a community with 2 large bases, over the years I’ve watched the quality of the average enlisted personnel decline, reflecting the general condition of our degrading society in general, dysfunctional.
Cyber trucks can’t be driven by a dead man. Or can they? He pulled up to Trump Tower and had 17 second to off himself with a Desert Eagle and no one outside the car heard it? The one guy in the blast zone on camera didn’t seem to look at the truck before the blast. Was there a dead man’s switch? None of this adds up. He probably could have Timothy McVeigh’d that building and possibly even have gotten away if he wanted.
I immediately thought it does parallel Tim McVeigh. Do they think they are on a special dark op? I also read about how someone pretending to be a Green Beret was calling people and pretending to be someone in another unit, they had a lot of info. I can find the post if someone is interested.
Yes, please.
https://x.com/angertab/status/1874866119934140511
Also, Ft Bragg had a special op data breach not too long ago- that might be significant too.
https://x.com/jillsdeal/status/1874906783678103796
A McVeigh op invites too many investigators from too many different city, county, state and federal agencies…this one is far more tidy…capice?
Derrick Broze is maturing very well – I first saw him speak when he was much younger – *smart* guy.
There was a tv series – programming in the genre of “psychological drama/crime/drama/fantasy/mystery” (layers of mind & emotional manipulation/programming there including very racy with a lot of sex scenes) – made & aired in 46 episodes to reinforce the official story & narrative of the OKC bombing a few years later (2007-2010); when lies/Truths were confirmed & to a degree solidified in US conversation & consciousness after-the-fact.
(as if to say “there’s too much misinformation – this is how we all need to remember it/this is how it was, you just forgot”)
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Also Merick Garland was officially deep inside this event; Derrick didn’t mention that I wonder if it’s in his documentary.
I heard he trouble at home, but it still doesn’t account for several things including a change in his Signal- read this threader app for more detail (I’m not military so I’m not completely understanding all of it)
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1874932093081571618.html
Thanks, hadn’t seen that. A friend of mine suggested guys like this don’t usually just go unnoticed or untracked.
Agreed.
oh but they can an do. its part of the training..and the contract.
I know about these things.
can wiggle and you and anyone else will have a very very very difficult time on the trail that leas to
X/
I was trained to express X… I know Y.
it’s not a trivial difference in the intel comm.
But it also means I can hunt with this knowledge….and so, I do that
there is more to follow
God Bless America
I’ve read elsewhere that his wife dumped him the day after Christmas due to infidelity. Not sure which one had their hand in the cookie jar, but either way that could have been a substantial factor in his actions.
As for the chosen location and vehicle, if he was as patriotic as some claim then maybe he was paying homage to the two biggest names in American society right now. We might never know if it was meant to be an insult or a compliment.
Lots of people have marital problems without blowing themselves to charred smithereens and then shooting themselves in the head.
Or shooting themselves in the head and then blowing themselves to charred smithereens?🤔
Also texting a girlfriend … so not “lonely”
Wife issues? Or a distraction…
Many thanks!
Tesla does have that “autopilot” self driving feature.
Musk stated that “all telemetry was normal” from the cybertruck before the blast. But I have no doubt the IC spooks could easily spoof the data-stream and feed Tesla whatever telemetry data they wanted to.
Tesla’s have internal and external cameras but not sure if they upload in real time or are stored inside the car.
Not if it was retrieved, driverless, to the hotel.
McConnell’s sister in law might have had something to say? She was in a Tesla Model X SUV…
What caliber DE?
50
It will do significant damage to a human…..bad and big round for sure.
Being a Tesla with LIMITED driving range, SOMEONE would have had to ‘plug’ it in at a charging station. Either he off’ed himself at Trump Tower OR there was a second person in the vehicle who then exited that vehicle at the last charging station and then the cybertruck was ‘piloted’ to the final location and remotely detonated…..if one were to speculate given the released information.
Seems logical. I think we can agree a ghost didn’t pull the trigger. Assuming we are being told the truth about the self inflicted GSW.
Irony is this guy was involved in remote unmanned systems, some apparently for bomb detection. Here we’ve had theories of drones looking for dirty bombs….
I seriously doubt we are being told the truth about a self-inflicted gunshot wound or anything else. A Tesla with a Trump supporter (with a bullet in his head) driving it explodes in front of a Trump hotel? I think anyone with eyes can see C who did this. Could there possibly be a more obvious intimidation tactic conducted against President Trump? Trump must declare war on every three-letter agency in the government, but most of all on the IC. There is no alternative, it’s either us or them. America cannot survive with the IC as currently constituted. We can either have America, or we can have our current IC. We cannot have both.
The Desert Eagle is a 44 magnum or 50 caliber. Not sure his head would have stopped that round at that range.
and….how did all of ‘Berger’s IDs inside the truck not get burned beyond recognition ?
Thinking ..like a good gum shoe detective.
Now take the next step.
“The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it is too late. The USA is breaking down – A violent erosion of Safety, National Security, and Democracy is taking place all across our Nation.”
Patriot Act part 2, or more drones?
We are already on Patriot Act Part Two, Evil Mike expanded the program at the last renewal to authorize the Derps to force any Citizen to become part of their surveillance net and compromise any network or online entity they operate or have access to, with serious consequences for not playing along in silence.
Must be part 3 then! There’s nothing quite like a disaster to grab even more control!
Uh, they “must get involved” may soon morph into “why were they involved”, and then into oh well, “they always are involved”
Well, it’s obvious who was involved here. They used to be better at hiding their involvement, but now they’re as arrogant and open about it as the mafia used to be.
CIA is one of the alphabets doing the eroding. Smell the coffee!
Well settles THAT then!
What is the connection with Fort Bragg? Do some research on what goes on there.
Ft Bragg is huge and has many different types of units.
It’s the home of Special Forces & Psyops schools (USAJFKSWCS) along with the 82nd airborne. Also unbeknownst to many SFAS, SOF SERE school & 1st SFOD-D (these are on the outskirts of Bragg at Camp McCall).
What is: “USAJFKSWCS” ?; SFAS” ?; “SOF SERE school &SFOD-D”?
It’s a rule here to NOT use unfamiliar acronyms.
United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center & School
Special Forces Assessment & Selection (course)
Special Operations Forces Survival Escape Resistance & Evasion (school)
Special Forces Operational Detachment- Delta (aka Delta Force)
Just a distraction. The point was to intimidate Trump, and I imagine Musk as well. And to create a phony narrative. As always.
The number of deaths (drugs?) on and around Fort Bragg is concerning? 🤔
Fort Bragg is HUGE and has been re-named (Liberty something ) … competent commanders/officers/leadership have been purged … DEI controls recruitment and promotions … not good.
Nothing to see here…move along children.
Both suspects had IEDs wired for remote detonation
Both suspects had long-rifles chambered in .308 and semiautomatic pistols
Both suspects are dead and therefore unavailable for questioning
Both spent time doing IT projects at large Defense and Intel agency contractors (General Dynamics for Vegas and Deloitte for New Orleans)
Both were alleged to have acted alone, allegedly no connections between the two
Um, yeah.
Well when you put it like that…
I smell the deep state posturing for a strike.
From what is remembered, Deloitte got into fraud charges during 2009 in Afghanistan?! Also Deloitte was highly involved in the accusations of murder by our U.S. combat troops. Among many other anti- American activities?! I have gigabytes of Deloitte information stored on hard drives from those times of both Iraq and Afghanistan. Many combat troops were unjustly accused and many ended up in Leavenworth for life. IMO, the NOLA terrorist could have been cavorting while in Afghanistan?! Then later is hired in the US by Deloitte, where he was still employed.
A question that I have not seen answered was Jabber the name he was born with or did he change his name after he became a moeslim. I have not seen anything about his parents.
Jabbar was the family name. Fox News site quotes a half-brother who claims they were raised in Islam.
Brother says New Orleans terror suspect converted to Islam long ago: ‘This is more some type of radicalization’
The suspected attacker’s brother said he was raised Christian but was Muslim for most of his life
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/shamsud-din-jabbar-new-orleans-brother-radicalization-b2672859.html
Laura Loomer reports that Sara Carter was Livelsberger’s ex-wife, his current being Jennifer Davis since 2022.
thx for that clarification
so the wife that’s all excited about that Trump/StopBigotry bumper sticker is in the rearview mirror at least
not that that’s mattering much to him now
What are the odds of that?
I don’t think so … Laura Loomer is incorrect.
Sara Carter has been married since 2010 to one Martin “Marty” Bailey, who is a US Army combat veteran and who works for the Dept of State. He was previously a Master Sergeant with the Special Forces. He served for more than two decades. In April 2011, Bailey was blinded during battle in Afghanistan, when a grenade exploded above his head during a firefight.
(source: The Blaze Media, Sara Carter, May 26, 2014 … “This Isn’t Going to Be Easy”: The Inspiring Story of Two Blind Veterans Climbing the Highest Mountain in North America.)
Thank you. It definitely didn’t ring true – the loomer story, that is.
Also, pretty sure Sarah and husband have six children!
Coulda been a different Sara Carter…..just sayin’.
Sara Carter from Fox News?
Do you have a link?
I looked and all I found was that his x is a lefty. That does not sound like Sara Carter of fox.
“The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it is too late.”
I would be wondering if the CIA as well as the FBI are already thoroughly involved? The CIA is supposedly on the watch for foreign actors. These were US military actors. But there are other implications in the activities going on.
From a post on Telegram channel TwoMajors:
“The Las Vegas police…thanked Elon Musk not just for locking down details on the exploded Cybertruck, but for handing over “all the video from Tesla charging stations across the country.” All. Of. It.”
Conclusion by TwoMajors – “The implications are dystopian. Privatizing state surveillance means Big Tech isn’t just in bed with Big Brother, they’re building the bed, making the rules, and profiting at every turn. Tesla is much more than just a car company; it’s a network of data-collection nodes that feed into narratives of control.”
In other words, this is not just government surveillance (CIA, FBI, NSA, TSA, etc.) under the Patriot Act, but megacorporate surveillance under the guise of “helping”.
Forgot to put link. https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@two_majors/40243
The TechBros doing a proof of concept on the surveillance state.
CEO killer, videos available quickly from all over NYC? No warrants needed.
NO killer, videos available quickly from all over. No warrants needed.
LV killer, videos available quickly country-wide. No warrants needed.
MKUltra were mind control/manipulation “experiments” on military personel. This smells a few generations down the line.
Of course Big Tech was the ones gleefully building out our surveillance system – all for Big Bucks.
There is absolutely no concern for our Constitution.
Didn’t Musk expose all MAGA supporters names on X to the feds? He claimshe was ‘forced’ to disclose them.
Musk is a threat to MAGA and a danger to America.
The less they’re involved the better.
I`ve read some new rigs can repo themselves. No driver needed. Self driving car?…naw
Weren’t there reports of multiple attackers in Nawlins?
Yes, until there supposedly wasn’t.
Then again, it wasn’t terrorism either, until it was.
I read reports for a while (or heard talking heads on tv in the background) that he had assistants planting additional ied’s
then – not – like Maquis says so elegantly
Yes, initially they said they had video of different people placing the coolers that contained explosives at some locations.
THEN, they said, nah, those people were just curious onlookers., and they showed video of what they told us was the ‘lone wolf’ planting the explosives.
BUT, the so called lone wolf they were showing looked like a much older man, not the 42 y o perp. MUCH older.
Was it this guy?
No. They showed a grey haired man with a small grey beard wearing glasses. This guy they were showing looked to be at least late 50s, maybe even 60s.
Definitely didn’t look like the perp.
Indeed. He looks aged, at the very least.
Scroll down:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-orleans-attack-latest-police-probe-suspect-motive/story?id=117262459
LOL
I should know who this is, but I don’t.
Looks familiar.
Who is it?
Correction: they showed photos, not video
In the Las Vegas police news briefing this morning one of the answers to a reporter’s question is that there are a lot of cameras inside these cybertrucks and that Elon Musk was sending a group of his engineers to Las Vegas in order to see if they can recover as much of the video recordings from that vehicle as possible, so it may be that there will be video of the driver’s last moments as well as the officer said that they are contacting all the people that were on the route at the various electric vehicle charging stations to obtain the video cameras from those other Tesla vehicles.
here’s a link to the 24 minute Las Vegas police dept. press briefing from this morning:
It seems that 100% of what happens outside and inside those Tesla vehicles, including conversations, belong to Tesla and can be accessed by Tesla as the answer to the reporter was to the effect they know who was charging their vehicles when and where and are in contact with them now in order to recover their video.
So, your Tesla has cameras on you?
I’m sure interior cameras will be a standard feature required on every new domestic car built within a few years. For your safety, of course.
Dang, brings a new importance to makeup!
Yes.. my wife runs Airbnbs in our neighborhood, a guest had a cybertruck and wanted to park at our house. The truck had footage, when parked, of people spitting and kicking the truck. The guy could not believe I did not care a whit about his truck.
And microphones.
With self driving vehicles comes the inevitable inclusion of “the black box”, as is carried by aircraft, ships, etc. All for forensic assessment of course //sarc.
Anyone considered why your insurance company might offer to lower your rates if you plugged in a dongle into your car’s OBD-II port?
Some cars have black boxes that the police can download after an accident.
If it has an Air bag (SIR) Supplemental Inflatable Restraint system, it has had a “black box” in it since they started putting them on.
In the beginning it was limited to about a minute, now…. memory is cheap could be a long while.
It was hush hush until our body shop had a “team” come out to get the data from something that was in our body shop.
Tho even the training class I had on it told us there was a “flight recorder” of a certain time so they could see if the brakes were on/off seat belts on/off & all other pertinent data affecting a crash with air bag deployment.
Last I was working in a GM dealership was 4/2001.
No orange box needed. It all goes immediately to corporate.
News just in!
Video recovered from LV killers Tesla showed the Green Beret looking at the Tesla screen and the screen was showing an object that looked and talked like Elon but had revolving pinwheels in place of the eyes.
Brainwashing suspected.
Retrieve the black box.
The whole thing stinks
Yup, the stink in Bangkok is quite overwhelming…
sure does, on many levels.
and, speaking of “stinks”, did you know Musk has his own Perfume on the market ?
altho , looks like it might be sold out…
it’s called, of all things, Burnt Hair, ugh…
link…
https://www.boringcompany.com/burnthair
for some odd reason, that came to mind while I was reading about the charred remains of this hapless fellow.
very
very
odd
(order it thru Musk’s Boring Co.)
Fwiw
The name, “Burnt Hair” is a trollishly humorous reference to a famous meme about easily triggered people who have a “hair on fire” reaction to things…..
rather than reacting by remaining emotionally sober, dispassionately curious, observant and capable of logical analysis.
Btw….
“Did you know” another world famous OG Twitter troll, PDJT, also “has his own Perfume on the market?”
Which also triggered some people to have hair-on-fire reactions and to post oneline “this stinks” comments?
As PDJT intended.
“
Bottom line, PDJT has often said ” its fun to do a little trolling”.
And based on Elons 30+ years worth of tweets, he obviously agrees with PDJT.
Thank God.
did you know, BTW, that I am aware of that…
however, try as I might, I just don’t find anything about Musk to be “trollishly humorous”.
trollish, yes…
obnoxious , immature & gauche, yes..
but “humorous”, no.
the Burnt Hair perfume came to mind, as I said, while reading about this incident and the Tesla vehicle….just another odd coincidence.
but, hey, thnx for yr input anyway.
Derp
and that, too.
Fort Liberty (aka Ft Bragg), NC is home to everything US Army Special Operations and Psy-OPS as well as the JFK School where Special OPS Ground assets, CIA, FBI and Foreign Exchange Special OPS … et al are taught their trade.
Go back to 6 January 2020 … the rapid Active Army Rapid Alert Force, tasked to secure DC, was from Ft Bragg’s 82nd Airborne Division as well as VA National Guard.
The bad guys have had control of DoD recruiting for over 20 years … do you think the bad guys would not take advantage of that fact. The FBI is not the only agency with rotten folks within the ranks.
Interesting note for the tin foil hat crowd .. the current Commander of the US Special OPS Command, HQ at McDill AFB in Florida .. is from New Orleans.
The fact the Las Vegas soldier had a few alias names is not strange … The US Army often turns Special OPS troops, who spend time as CIA hit men, loose inside the US for training … Sock Puppet JoeBama’s pen and cell phone were used to undo President Trump’s orders to remove US Special OPS Troops out from under IC control.
The description of the 18X (or 18 “X-ray”) MOS Program or Enlistment Contract is quite interesting for those who want to look further.
It’s interesting and alarming as well. It is a rough path into the US Special Operations forces “without having to serve any time in service before applying”… but think on that a while .. its a path for ANYBODY to be taken off the street by a “recruiter” and put into the Special Operations Training system .. especially if that anybody of the street fits a specific profile. The “special recruit” can be ushered through the screening, tough training, et al.
Go back to 2014 … the US Special Operations Command ADDED a few thousand operators for special tasks and they did NOT count vs DoD end strength. The 18X MOS program is tailor made for bringing in the desired domestic operators.
This sounds like the old REP 63 program back in the late 80’s with far less success. Before they offered pre-Selection.
Careful, with all the G2 you’re throwing out there “DOC” I might think you’re an 18D & have to coin you. haha
“Berger” had time in Tajikstan with a medal from the State Dept (CIA action?) for his time at the embassy.
Before President Trump’s order removing them from under IC Control … it was common for the CIA to use US Special Operations Troops (without DoD Approval Required) as part of their operations. keep in mind .. the US CIA uses the US state Department as cover for it’s operations and operators, overseas.
There were cases where Special Operations Troops were actually ASSIGNED to the CIA and under CIA control … before being tasked.
The info (so far) about the Green Beret does not add up.
His uncle says he was a huge Trump supporter.
Lara Logan shows the timeline of driving that vehicle from Colorado Springs to Las Vegas is very doubtful
Why would paper passport and credit card-type drivers license survive the flames but not the body of whoever died?
How could he set off the explosion after shooting himself (or being shot) in the head?
What about the 3-letter agencies has been reformed that anybody would trust them?
I’m wondering if he second guessed his handlers/orders and sabotaged their plan with an early button push and trigger pull…
Now, I have heard of leather wallets preserving things pretty well in a fire. Maybe someone with more practical experience can chime in.
re: “Why would paper passport and credit card-type drivers license survive the flames”
WERE they sitting open, up on the dash, or tucked away in a thick leather wallet in his back pocket?
Is your DL plain paper, or a laminated in like a thin plastic-like material?
And passports are in kind of their own folder-like little booklet …
Any ideas how a 19 year, E-8 Master Sgt. US Army special forces soldier that worked with explosives detection technology built such a crappy bomb?
And buried the entire effort in a Tesla bunker cyber truck…maybe this really was a statement.
Vegas guy’s family is saying the story is not adding up.
There would be extensive info into all of that! The military doesn’t miss too much! As I’ve said earlier, something stinks here and I can smell it in Pa.! I worked intel in the Vietnam conflict. Ya notice that FIB guy talks awful fast? That’s kinda like a red flag!
Bombmakers take pride in their work, knowing that it will be examined and evaluated.
Was not his bomb?
Family is disputing.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/update-he-would-have-been-able-make-more/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/update-he-would-have-been-able-make-more/
Ahhhh, dot connectors! Luv it!
I often wonder if some (not all of) these people really even exist, or went missing and are possibly dead already. Mockingbird media just uses them as an excuse. They often can’t keep their stories straight and then you see family saying that they would never do that. Much like how whistleblower families say that their loved ones would never kill themselves, but then suddenly, one day…
I want to know what material they use to make terrorist IDs and passports because they sure are indestructible! They can survive everything from an exploding Cybertruck to a blown up plane and skyscraper and still be legible! Incredible!
The tattoos were pretty tough as well.
Same thing they print x-rated material on.
It’s very interesting what burns, doesn’t burn – depends if it’s protected (shielded) from the flames. Interestingly x-rated material is almost fire proof: you would not believe the amount of times I’ve seen a rooms contents utterly destroyed and everything charred except for the pile of x-rated material. I think it’s because people hide it so it’s offered protection.
Same thing with ID’s, for the most part they’re in a wallet, in a pocket offering good protection for direct flame impingement. Cotton is a good protector from flames. A fire in San Luis County, CA in the 70’s killed 3 fireman, it was the reason CAL Fire (CDF at the time) got fire shelters. I took several wild land fire training classes that discussed the incident. We were shown pictures of the burned bodies. The bodies were burned everywhere except where the cotton underwear and t-shirt offered protection.
If you look at the explosion, it goes up. That’s why the windows didn’t break. Had those components been assembled correctly it would’ve been a lot worse. I took several fire investigation courses and was on a hazardous materials response team. I have the knowledge and guarantee this individual did too based on the type of military training he had. I don’t think we’ll ever know why the materials weren’t assembled in a more deadly configuration, but we should be thankful.
Hubby just finished saying what you did, not everything proximate burns in a fire. I think of images from conflagrations like in 2017 Santa Rosa CA fires, how random undamaged possessions would be scattered about in the ashes and charred ruins.
re: “terrorist IDs and passports”
Leather wallets, in back pocket, of jeans or camo.
Think about this stuff …
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May the Lord crush the plans of the enemy regarding President Trump, his family, and his inauguration. May all of the evil planned burn to ashes before it can start. May the Lord deal swiftly with each person involved.
Yes, indeed. And dear Father, open the eyes of unbelievers who don’t know You, so that they may be saved before it is too late. In Jesus’ precious name I pray, amen.
Sure seems to me that we are watching a show for all the wrong reasons.
President Trump calling for the CIA, come on now……..he must know what the CIA is up to and what the FBI is up to……
I find it very hard to believe that the FBI, CIA, Department of Defense and other government agencies did NOT have a C.L.U.E. before this all came down simultaneously.
Seriously?
They really do believe that we are all that damn stupid!
OMG!
He may be drawing attention to them.
President Trump is calling all of them out.
The CIA is technically looking outside of America, NSA, FIB, and DOD would be the Agencies for inside. EOD people (Explosive Ordinance Device) should be all over this! They’re pretty thorough.
NSA Ai to the rescue.
Problem – Terrorism
Reaction – Fear
Solution – Ai controlled surveillance from the Tech Bros
It was the year of fire
The year of destruction
The year we took back what was ours
It was the year of rebirth
The year of great sadness
The year of pain
And the year of joy
It was a new age
It was the end of history
It was the year everything changed
The year is 2025
The place: America
h/t J. Michael Straczynski
yeah, and from Day One
almost hour one
bab 5
The LV Metro investigation of Mandalay Bay was a Deep State orchestrated coverup. I am expecting the same in this case.
Maybe this is why PT is calling out the CYA…
WOW !! Soooooooooo … the former SF Operator (or perhaps still “current”??) …. SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD just before HE BLEW UP THE TRUCK … !?!?!?!?!!!!!
Hmmmm … I must have missed that movie …
obvious suicide
found shot in the head
twice
/s
Possible ‘deadman’s switch’?? Or he was deceased before the cybertruck arrived at Trump Tower via the ‘self-drive feature’ and the vehicle was remotely detonated, or………..
Maybe a conspiracy? Somehow, 2+2 is adding up to 7 in these incidents! I don’t trust the MSM or the Feds anymore! They can dazzle with brilliance or baffle BS! They ain’t dazzling us!
Die Hard 27?
There needs to be trials. Not in DC but in military courts overseeing TREASON charges against many of those in power.
Nothing short of Leavenworth or Guantanamo Bay will be acceptable.
After 20 years of stacking the deck, in terms of recruiting … including the officer Corps, JAG et al .. I place no more trust in a Military Tribunal any more than the current courts.
Not sure how much of the US Military can be trusted anymore.
Remember, both JD and DeSantis were JAG officers.
I have known some good JAG officers in my time. Others, less so.
I will tell you it might be more revealing as to where they get their law degree from.
Wasn’t Lindsey Graham?
Lindsey Graham is part of a completely different time during his active duty.
Graham is 100% more patriotic with historical background, knowledge and experience than those who are in the same position today.
I disagree with Graham on many issues but his military experience is completely different than what we are discussing today.
So I will not criticize him I this issue.
Remember, the Kenyan retired an awful lot of good men! We have a lot like Gen Milley(?) left!
And Clinton rifted good academy grads & officers moving up the chain of command by passing them over for promotions that went to unqualified women, minorities & don’t-ask-don’t-tell … instead
The price of Treason is lamp posts!
The Beltway sniper
John Muhammed Former U.S. Army serviceman
previously John Allen Williams
also 42 years of age, at the time of his killing spree.
He received an honorable discharge from the Army, after 16 years of service.
Given the death penalty in 2009.
citizensfreepress has a bunch of articles on how this guy was a Trumper, divorced his leftist wife, proudly sent a pic of the cybertruck to a friend hours before the explosion, and more. The question is whether this was a murder rather than suicide.
Especially after he signed an order removing US Troops out from under CIA Control.
On the other hand … is he asking the CIA to look overseas for connections … need some clarification. yet, even asking the CIA to do anything .. even overseas … is in itself disturbing.
I’m sure that President Trump asking the CIA to be involved is just a cover. Whether he asks or not, they will be involved.
Because more than likely, the CIA were the perps.
Countdown – 18,17,16,15….
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/6561/attackers-new-orleans-vegas-army
I have a tech question. They are saying the LV guy shot himself in the head. But – is it possible someone else shot him, put his body in his rental Tesla, loaded it with explosives, remotely had the Tesla truck drive itself to the location with an already deceased Army guy in it, and then remotely detonated the explosives in the truck?
We know that we don’t really drive our cars anymore. All the controls are electronic, controlled by the computer. Theoretically you could sit in the back seat and drive your car with a nintendo controller. And and there are some odd stories from time to time of someone hacking a car’s systems and taking over its controls.
So – possible?
Yes. There are totally driver-less taxi’s in San Francisco. The tourists love them.
There would be evidence of a R/C device. (Remote Control)
Self-drving isn’t available on the cyber truck yet (at least from my understanding). Also, it would’ve disengaged very shortly after since he would be looking at the road and no pressure on the steering wheel. It would be very difficult for someone to engage (double pull down on right turn signal) and exit the vehicle.
You basically described the story I made up in my head and told hubby I wouldn’t share, would 👀 to see what transpired.
As for remotely controlling the car, Posobiec noted on this morning’s War Room that it is possible to remotely control EVs. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
(Edited to correct duplicate word)
I just read that Livelsberger’s parents said this whole story doesn’t add up. Said their son loved Trump and if he was going to make a bomb, it would have been much more sophisticated.
My theory is the bad guys shot him, then put him in the CT and programmed it to drive to Trump Tower. They could have zip tied his hands to the steering wheel.
If the truck was driven from Colorado to Vegas, there would have had to have been recharging stops. Someone would have had to plug the vehicle in…….
Apparently, this is what Elon has. It is all much too orchestrated for me.
With Jabbar I can see how that guy might have been flipped into an asset. His life was reportedly spiraling. The 3 men and 1 woman first reported, that were just Jabbar all along after having changed clothes, could have been his “cell”. Likely CHSs and agents leading him right along. Think Whitmer kidnapping or Viper militia.
In the past, active terror cells have typically consisted of around five team members.
Assuming a connection does exists, that means there is a strong possibility at least three more individuals are on an active operation.
BOLO.
Have we seen the body of the cyborg truck bomber?
No.
They’re getting DNA samples from it. Don’t be surprised if they cremate the body afterwards!
This smells.
We need the postmortem results of the self inflicted GSW. Although this is Clark County so not a lot of confidence in the truth being released?!
Also, I’d like to know if the Cybertruck can be remotely operated. Musk mentioned he viewed the trucks telemetry so did it have a black box in it or does it transmit data from the vehicle via remote access?
Too many coincidences for this to be clean.
Seems like the 8th way to Sunday the IC can getcha. Interesting/infuriating that FedGov IC/FIB/DOinJ are willing to murder large numbers of citizens to advance their anti-patriot, unlimited surveillance and control projects. These events may even out-flank PDJT, unless he can reveal who’s behind the curtain pulling levers.
Of course, not only did they murder civilians, they also destroyed 2 highly trained soldiers and turned them into guided missiles. How many more are there still out there? Is there a way to break their programming? I think the guy in Vegas took himself out as a last ditch refusal to follow programming. Lots remaining to be seen.
Wasn’t that a ‘plot’ with one of the IronMan movies, creating killing machines via some type of activated implants??
They murdered at least, what, 1M citizens by allowing fentanyl to come in from China through Mexico and TEXAS. There is also a Texas nexus in some of this stuff.
And 45 million babies died before (and after ) birth in 2024. They number 1 cause of death last year
He’s that and the war and drug industries are very lucrative.
The GASLIGHTING by the government/media is intense.
Luckily there are more of us, with clear minds and honest hearts, willing to see TRUTH.
Another attempt by the US government to kill Americans
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The alleged Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber reach out to ex-girlfriends “excited” about renting a Cybertruck, per the Gazette
CinderTruck.
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video of the exploded Cybertruck outside of the Trump Hotel, showing explosive ordinances in the back
How can they it was a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, and follow right behind that with the body was burned too bad for positive identification?
Now I have to admit I am not a medical examiner, but those two things can’t both be true. If the body is burned that bad all they can tell is there is a hole in the scull and then figure out a bullet put the hole there. But if the skin is all burnt, you wouldn’t be able to find powder burns or burns around the entry wound to indicate the shot even came from close range, or the barrell was in contact with the skin when the shot was fired.
If those things were visible on the skin, then the body want burnt beyond recognition.
Which is it?
Then the body wasn’t burnt beyond recognition. Sorry.
Fires will crack the skull but a bullet makes a hole. The fire only burns the skin, usually the insides are pretty much OK. No warrants needed.Think charing a steak on the grill. Still pink inside.
I have handled more burnt bodies than I care to remember. Some medium rare and some well done.
But my point is with the skin. If the skin is burnt beyond recognition, then burn patterns on the skin which would normally be used to indicate the gunshot was in contact with, or close to the skin would not be there either.
But yes the hole would stoll be there, and with that size gun probably an exit wound also.
Dunno. They identified tattoos.
I gave them the benefit of a doubt on that one since it’s possible that the entire body didn’t have 3rd degree burns.
The other part doesn’t add up though
The CIA can’t operate on US soil supposedly.
Is Trump senile? First he 180’s on immigration, then brings in the TechBros, then fires Gaetz and puts in Patel, an Indian, then tells the CIA to break the law and operate inside the US.
The other thing that President Trump does is expose corruption. Maybe his statement about the CIA is an opening for that purpose.
We can thank the Kenyan on a lot of this spy crap! You know, that fundamental change thingy!
There’s prolly a lot of Obama people appointed still in office yet!
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Trump Hotel Cybertruck Bomber Was Recruiting Fighters For Ukraine
Are bad guys trying to steer President Trump into declaring Martial Law so they can use our armed forces to arrest President Trump’s administration?
Ukraine is the laundromat for greasing political palms!
Interesting how much investigative info is being let out by the investigating teams of the Fbbers & local LEOs of New Orleans & Las Vegas about these two, “possibly related” incidents,
but when it was a couple of guys trying to kill a former US Prez in Butler PA & in Florida, there was so much of the same type of investigative info withheld for quite some time.
( Not even gonna mention any other similar “lack of info” situations like the Mandalay Bay shooting in L.Vegas, etc… )
Strange how there is little to nothing released in a long period of time for some situations,
& a Lot of info released in a short period of time in other situations…??
( Or, is it just me wondering about this??? I wonder if , Sometimes…. so much info that may lead folks down the wrong trail ,
or make them be “persuaded” to think in a certain way could be part of something bigger?
“Naw… I must be thinking of some “PsY-ops conspiracy theory BS… Right?
Ever hear of the Warren Commission & that sort of thing??
Am I asking the right questions, yet???)
Hmmm… Well, these are just some things that I noticed, and am “questioning”, anyway.
???
Beautiful dot connecting there JB!
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Once again doing the FBI’s job for them.
Geez, that is just sick. WTH?
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his body was burned “beyond recognition.”
So somehow a paper passport and military ID survived the explosion?
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1874904753093906535
OOPS…
Musk’s super duper glove compartment?
Probably sitting on his wallet.
The explosion didn’t burn the body, the fire did. I did 20+ years in the fire department. Yes, an ID and passport could’ve survived and the body be burned .
Please explain to these people where a person’s ‘back pocket’ is located, and what a leather wallet does to retard combustion of a wallet …
So did tattoos on the arm!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of General’s bringing in drugged women, inside military coffin transport boxes. Or, former prisoners secretly being brought in as slave labor.
Why?
Because it’s one of (former Trump appointee) Brig- Gen Anthony Tata’s storylines in his novels. He’s had a few plot lines that are somewhat reflected in real life, including the use of self driving cars filled with bombs.
I wonder where Tata got his ideas?