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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Whenever the possibility presents, throw sand into the machinery…
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morning Treepers…………..be well
Morning bjorkdream
Wow. Love this 😍
Thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you, sir! It was a beautiful morning here!
Thank you for the supply of beautiful screensavers. God bless you, sir.
Thank you for the picture…a daily reminder that God is good!
For our Treeper hurricane watchers…is looking better…:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?start#contents
Hurricanes come around every year, and have been doing so for my entire life…
Government forecasters warned us about major storms, but now they tell us that every little storm is a “killer storm” in effort to frighten the populace…
It is a “control thing”, frightened people are more controllable than folks that aren’t frightened…
Have you noticed that the “government” forecasters are now calling hurricanes “tropical cyclones”? The name change is just more of their plan to frighten the people…
I have a vested interest to travel south if need be…I watch it closely as my “window of opportunity” can be a narrow one…been lucky for many years…
I also check with the locals for real time info…But yes, I agree with you…fear porn is a terrible thing. But then, so are stupid populations that don’t have a plan or prepare….I feel badly for those who cannot afford to prepare. Or are too old…which I am approaching….
It’s the one behind this fish spinner..
I like the name, “fish spinner”…!
Brian….is The Best weatherman! No Fear porn.
Done. Burnt toast. Being replaced…..watch
This issue is just a distraction, with Trump’s team taking the bait.
The majority of people do not care about something that happened 20+ years ago.
Just the fact that the mainstream media is reporting on it, shows that it is being used as a talking point, a petty issue, so Team Harris gets to ignore the facts that many voters should be concerned about.
It’s the shiny little ball, that Team Trump gets to play with.
Sure they do. Make them eat their words.
The Ouster of Rep. George Santos (R-NY)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/878/text
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023691
Really? They passed a law that, for one year, changed that statute of limitations on a rape accusation that allowed E Jean Carroll claim that PDJT sexually assaulted some nut case on some vague day in a women’s dressing room which resulted in smearing his reputation and cost him millions of dollars.
They have gone back in time again and again to dig up fake “dirt” on PDJT. They love going back 10, 20, 30 years and smearing him when he is innocent of all charges.
They need to reap what they have sown. Walz’s pedo, groomer, military stolen valor, allowing M/St Paul burn, and all of his other dirt is FAIR GAME.
that information does what?
makes us red hot and ready for what?
makes the left feel like what? do they even hear it? if they do hear it do they listen or skip it? do they trigger into you are a racist as they forget the point?
venting and making us read hot are good things.
the right likes topics that make them angry at the left.
the left hates the right, and doesnt give a damn about topics.
JMO……
I think there is a new voting attitude…voters seem to want “honesty” in politics and policies…like with Fauci…and Kamala’s vote to tax tips…
If ya did it, own up to it and own it…rather than try and cover up something…It takes a strong and decent person to own up to a deliberate lie and or failure…
…and “once a liar, always a liar”….my divorce lawyer told me that one…(I did not have to lie as I was squeaky clean.)…
Wrong. People care!
The majority of people do not care about something that happened 20+ years ago.
If I were were active military or a vet I would be greatly offended by someone inflating their rank and lying about being in combat.
I was offended when DeSantis’ campaign put out the Top Gov ad portraying him as a fighter pilot when in fact he was a military attorney.
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Awww, now we are talking about Timbo’s school service.
Meanwhile, no one has talked about Kammy’s record.
When one says that they voted in a presidential election, notice how the vice presidential candidate is never mentioned.
By talking about Timbo’s misdeeds for 3 weeks, Kammy gets to dodge the blame for her shady records.
All done on purpose, by Team Kammy and the Media, and everyone just laps it up, as the days go by till the election.
As you were disabled, it is a HUGE integrity issue and it’s just the tip of the iceberg. I’m sure his grooming antics are also deep.
HEY LOOK!!
The new shiny ball put out today by the Harris campaign.
After knowing that Walz lied about his service.
100% fact that this is a distraction, and everyone just goes and chases it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/harris-campaign-said-walz-chaired-veterans-affairs-he-did-not
I think you may be right-The media is covering this and social media is on fire with this so something is up. Maybe he withdraws because he is a distraction for the Kamala nomination and then Michelle Obama is inserted at the DNC convention. The crowd goes wild, the media goes wild, women will cry with delight, and there’s dancing in the streets.
Of course, Michelle and Barack will continue running things.
It affects nothing; the wacko Dems lie like a rug. Nothing will be done.
It also had the command wreath on it, rather than the vanilla SGM. He has lied about this thing for ages and he knows it. This isn’t accidental.
Admin — got one in the bin…
God bless family farms
I found a series on the tube this weekend on the McBee Dynasty of rural northwestern Missouri, 40k acres, a large family farming operation, plus cattle, longhorns and bison. They also seem to get a lot of visits from the feds. They just bought their own meat processing plant, and have diversified into membership style car washes, so if crops are down, they are building a fallback income. The recently aired Season 1 is on USA On Demand.
Good segment at 9:15 with Josh Hawley questioning Kelly Speakes-Backman who is head PR for the private company Invenergy.
What does the Missouri Governor have to say about this, I wonder? I might do some searches.
This is as bad as the “carbon capture” pipelines that Kristi Noem and some other midwest governors are allowing to grab land from farmers.
This is from a 2016 article. At that time Missouri had a Democrat Governor and he was in full support of the Grainbelt Express:
Missouri’s governor is wading into the battle between rural landowners and developers of the Grain Belt Express transmission line by endorsing the project as Clean Line Energy Partners gears up to submit a new request to state regulators.
Gov. Jay Nixon, who is in the final year of his two terms as governor, issued a statement yesterday afternoon backing the $2 billion direct-current, high-voltage line that would cross the state.
The Missouri Public Service Commission last summer voted down the Grain Belt Express project by a 3-2 vote (EnergyWire, July 2). But current PSC Chairman Daniel Hall encouraged Clean Line to refile its application, and the company indicated it would do so. Regulators in Kansas, Illinois and Indiana have already approved it.
Missouri’s Democratic governor, who appointed all five current PSC members, said he’s giving the project his blessing only after Clean Line committed to a series of landowner protections to assuage the fears of farmers and other landowners.
Since 2018 Missouri has had a Republican Governor, Mike Parsons. He is not as supportive. I don’t know why he signed a compromise but maybe the deal was too much of a done deal and he couldn’t kill it, maybe the best he could do was get some kind of reasonable compensation for the farmers. What a mess.
Gov. Mike Parson plans to sign legislation requiring electrical transmission line developers to pay farmers more for easements on their land, his office announced Wednesday.
Parson will be in Sedalia Saturday for a Missouri Cattlemen’s Association steak fry and plans to sign the legislation, requiring that landowners be paid 150% of fair market value for land taken through eminent domain for electrical transmission projects.
For years, Republican legislators sought hard-line eminent domain legislation that would have killed the Grain Belt Express, a high-voltage line planned for northern Missouri. This year, those proposals gave way to a compromise bill.
Chicago-based Invenergy has been working for years to develop the 4,000 megawatt transmission line which is expected to carry clean energy from southwest Kansas across Missouri and Illinois, ending at the Indiana border.
To do so, Invenergy needs easements on landowners’ property across northern Missouri. It has obtained thousands of parcels through negotiations with landowners. But in the event landowners refuse to sell, it can take property through eminent domain and compensate them.
This makes me SO angry that private companies can push their projects through and take people’s land. Again, pay attention to the carbon capture scam. https://www.thenewlede.org/2024/07/a-battle-in-rural-midwest-as-farmers-fight-carbon-capture-pipeline/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-eyewitness-who-secretly-recorded-interrogation-police-claims/
George Webb on X + a substack has been saying from Day 1 that there was blood on the scene of the shooting that matched to an Antifa Careerist who travels around the country showing up for Protests + doing whatever else in between including sniper practice. That that was part of why Roger Stone named Yearick as a possible shooter on Day 1 + also that the White Van that has — vanished completely — from the public discussion of the Assassiantion Attempt – which had Arizona plates – also linked to Yearick.
The fact the MSM + Institutions — immediately — ran up the CONSPIRACY THEORY DISNFO!!!! flag to crush what Roger Stone said – adds credibility to the possibility Yearick was involved…
— The Cover Up is mostly assured by now. As long as they prevent Trump from entering the White House + cleaning out the Institutions – it is highly likely no other force is going to — make sure a convincing amount of Documentation is made public —- or — when some damning piece of Info leaks — that the Institutions will seize on it to —- dig deeper…. We might get whistleblowers/leakers giving us some vital Info that helps us better understand what happened — but — the Institutions have now proven —- they will make sure —— the Truth never becomes the Official Narrative + nobody is ever really punished for conspiring to have Trump removed from the picture….
And we will continue to marry + give in marriage – eating + drinking – and going about our daily lives – while a Noah or 2 wastes his time building an ark….
Instead of multiple Press Conferences + quick full release of Bodycam Footage + other Footage – open to the Public online —- we’ve gotten a very slow drip drip drip of — what they want us to see — + explanations that make little sense while the GOP + Congress have fun on vacation….
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-shooting-assassination-conspiracies/
The entire Teams from that day – especially the Counter-Sniper Teams that left their posts overlooking the roof from which the Shooter shot — and their chain of command — and the Leadership on the ground for the Secret Service who deviated from the norm so much in that Security Plan ————- should have been either sweating it out in detention cells or running up a big gas bill — after driving back + forth to —- Interrogations on a daily-basis — hard interrogations as a Task Force picks apart their daily lives going back a year or more…..
— Instead — we’re sitting around waiting to see what they’ll do for the Next Attempt on Trump’s life or pretending things are back to normal…..
——————– Our patience knows zero bounds….. and they are free to try, try, try again…..
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-shooting-assassination-conspiracies/
Webb has been saying that a retired California cop he worked with (Task Force) had come to him with data on Antifa + its connections to the larger picture — including — training Snipers as well as Protesters.
The Average Person probably rolls his eyes hard at anything George Webb says – because that’s how we’ve been training to react to such Info —- but —- if we search the MSM — we’ll find notes that — Antifa is active in Europe as well. Often same flags + logos + so on… So the idea it is part of a larger – well-funded, well-organized machine doing this Regime Change Op aimed at Western Civilization has legs to it….
Also, I remember back before one or two Ambushes of Police —- Alex Jones at InfoWars had a special emergency broadcast — because — Dallas + Austin Police Intel had informed him — there was a plot by Antifa/BLM to use Parking Decks as Sniper Positions to Ambush Police….
So — George Webb telling us a career Law Enforcement Office told him back in 2016 or so that — Antifa was a paramilitary org connected to Eastern Europe + was setting up caches of weapons for any potential National Civil Emergency + were training sniper teams —— is not something that should be dismissed in knee-jerk (learned behavior) fashion….
Lastly, Antifa is not going to be able to operate across the United States for years in protest after protest — and — have affiliates across Eastern Europe including in Ukraine —- without — Institutional Support — inside the United States…..
Even in prior decades —- but MOST ASSUREDLY in today’s High Tech World —- there is zero chance such an org could operate without connections to Specialized Teams in the 3-Letter Agencies + without Institution-wide guidelines that let those beyond the Specialized Teams know — to leave Antifa alone….
If elements of + above our Gov did not want Antifa out there doing its thing —– it would have been crushed years ago —— far faster than it took them to drive the Tea Party off the Public Scene….
Lastly lastly, Webb also speculates all the Propaganda about Trump being a Threat to Democracy is meant to give the semblance of Color of Law to kick in both Public + Secret provisions within NATO Agreements (+ Executive Orders) — that “justify” — the 3-Letter Agencies in the US + NATO Countries — to do things like – spying + colluding against + even otherwise eliminating Trump from the picture…
Just like the us of Propaganda about the Insurrection of Jan 6 was meant to help clear a path thru the Courts to Arrest + Convict Trump for Insurrection to prevent him from being able to run for office again – and when that failed – they still kept it up to justify taking him off ballots + are now saying Congress will use it on Jan 6 2025 to not certify the Election if Trump is declared the winner….
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/joe-biden-threatens-president-trump-again-calls-him/
Webb was reporting this in the days after the shooting when he was traveling around the Butler area doing interviews…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/huge-thomas-crooks-trained-clairton-sportsmens-club-where/
Webb on the encrypted Overseas Accounts:
https://x.com/i/status/1822825315548442905
“They want to silence me because I will never let them silence You!” DJT
🙏♥️🤍💙🦁👑🇺🇲
Not sure I understand your use of a Noah reference. The give in marriage quote is from Jesus in Matthew 24, deep water.
It ties back to Genesis 6 Nephelim, pre flood. This is a wild ride if you have never taken it. Giants, trans humanism, the earth filled with violence, fallen angels.
I won’t try to do it justice in the comments section.
Readiness at Any Hour
(Genesis 6:1–7; Mark 13:32–37; Luke 12:35–48)
36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,gbut only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.
The Day of Noah were worse than the times of Sodom in Lott’s day but part of the message is the same: Lott thought it would be just fine for him + his family to live in the better business environment for making $$$ + it would all just be fine as long as he didn’t get involved in everything else that was going on around him….
There is nothing wrong with eating + drinking + getting married + giving in marriage —- unless you are doing it in a time when —- all around you — is becoming Corrupt til virtually All Flesh is contaminated + all around you man’s mind has turned to evil continually…..
It also means that people will be caught unaware when God decides to end this wicked system. We will be living our lives as normal and unless we are among the vigilant, we will be surprised at the sudden end of things.
“For yourselves know that the day of the Lord cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as trevail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape.”
The days of Noah were the days of fallen angels on earth. Indeed God contemplated wiping out all of creation. The
giants, the men of old, sired by fallen angels with earthly women were all destroyed in the Flood.
Book of Enoch is Not canonical , but should not be fully dismissed. It is part of the Ethiopian Cannon, and was found among the Dead Sea scrolls.
Interesting and important to understanding context.
I have come to believe that it speaks to spiritual reality.
Trump Loses To Harris – Mail-In Ballots Do It
If the election were today, Harris 303, Trump 235. Harris has the better hand because she has the mail-in ballot mills in swing states.
Omega4America
Aug 12, 2024
https://omega4america.substack.com/p/trump-loses-to-harris-mail-in-ballots
Tides Foundation’s 37,000 Leftist NGOs Network in US Video (14:58)
Omega4America
https://rumble.com/v4zui6u-tides-video.html
I have been screaming about Tide Inc for almost 2 years here. BLM and Tide Inc are the money front for the fraud.
Sundance, would you please comment on this?
So have you sent this information to the Trump campaign? They may not be aware of this.
It is beyond frustrating that the RNC is ignoring Jay Valentine and Omega4america.com. What gives? Why is Sundance silent about this? Does he know something I do not know? Valentine seems legit to me. I sent certified letters to Lara Trump and Mike Whatley about this. Never heard back. It may be too late. If it is true that Democrats already have 500,000 head start in every swing state how is there any path to DJT winning?
There is an old saying in sales training that goes “If you do what you’ve always done you will get what you’ve always got.” If the know-it-alls in the Republican Party refuse to acknowledge that Democrat-controlled election boards are creating fake voters and ballots out of thin air and assigning them to Walmarts and strip malls no amount of poll watching will ever catch the fraud. Valentine has created a data base that compares “voters” to property tax records. and what does he find? Thousands of “voters” who “live” in places where people do no live – illegitimate addresses. The democrat controlled election officials send out the fake ballots using a zip code that is slightly off. The ballots get returned by the postal service. They then send them to an NGO that fills them out and submits them (with a corrected zip code). Clueless poll watchers then make sure these “votes” get counted. This has nothing to do with “cleaning the voter rolls.” Examining the voter rolls would never find this. Only checking ballots against property tax records finds this. Valentine says this is the way they will steal the election. RNC isn’t interested.
Is there something I am missing here?
Read the post? Valentine says it better than I do.
Is the cost to use Valentine’s data base unreasonable? I want to know why this is being ignored?
Why should we believe that Jay Valentine’s work is accurate?
What’s the point of posting that, Winston? Are you trying to depress the MAGA movement? To make people feel like it’s not worth the trouble of voting?
It certainly is. He’s been trumpeting how bad Trumps debate with Biden was and disparaging Trumps decisions.
And here’s Winston with his daily undermining opinions and propaganda.
Appreciate the concern
it is gonna get really crazy this month……hang tuff
Wow! Just wow!
The peace and tranquility are deafening.
Spent much of my childhood in and around row boats like that one. Thank you for the trip down memory lane.
Looks just like the view from my recent stay in the adks. Beautiful! Thanks byork for the peaceful start to the day. Bless you!
If you wanted a picture to define serenity…this would be the one.
Wow. Perfect.
Thank you.
Lovely picture!
I would like to point out….
That boat has a paddle!
Donald J. Trump ReTruthe
Truth Social
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🚨🚨 Trump Media & Technology Group Announces Successful Launch of TV Streaming on iOS Devices 🚨🚨
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/08/07/2925939/0/en/Trump-Media-Technology-Group-Announces-Successful-Launch-of-TV-Streaming-on-iOS-Devices.html
So, will Truth Social stream from X’s feed tonight?
I wonder if Rep. Boebert still has the cut out of Kali-mala she took to what used to be the Border back in the early days of this waking nightmare?
She’s not waiving goodbye, she’s waiving hello. The people in this photo are going the wrong direction for hello.
Having said that, are those DHS buses? Are any of these illegal alien buses ELECTRIC?
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/08/12/britain-france-and-germany-warn-iran-to-not-attack-israel-meanwhile-u-s-sends-nuclear-submarine/
Meanwhile, the United States puts a real-life deterrent into play, taking the unusual move of announcing the deployment of a submarine — usually their whereabouts are a closely guarded secret — to the Middle East.
The assignment of USS Georgia, a Ohio class nuclear-powered guided missile land attack and special forces support submarine was announced by U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Sunday.
Peachy Keenan
@KeenanPeachy
URGENT: Looking to interview any American who was a high school student who accompanied Tim Walz to China on one of his “educational” tours in the 1990s. Please DM!!
I was thinking the same for any person he “counseled” on their sexual orientation during his stint as a high school “educator”.
Yes! I wonder how many kids he pushed into chemical/surgical castration.
The same goes for this country. This also applies to the issue of men in women’s sports.
There was a lot of support for mass immigration at the RNC, btw.
This is a childish misconception that deserves to be put right. The British people have voted again and again to reduce immigration substantially, and they were never asked about mass immigration when the policy was first introduced by Tony Blair, in 1997. Nobody knew what was coming, apart from the architects of that policy–and even they were surprised.
When New Labour came to power, net legal immigration to the UK was c.50k a year. New Labour’s policy of mass immigration was introduced, in the words of former advisor Andrew Neather to “rub the right’s nose in diversity” and ensure that a real conservative government could never be elected again. It was a cold, cynical policy formulation that came from the very top of government, from people like Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson. It was not a manifesto promise.
Over the next 27 years, as the scale of the demographic changes taking place became clearer, immigration became an important, but toxic, political issue. The Conservative Party made it a consistent policy pledge, at every election, that immigration would be brought down to “manageable levels,” which were usually defined as being “in the tens of thousands a year.” Even the Labour Party promised to reduce immigration at elections; although of course they never did.
When the Tories got into power, they continued to promise to reduce immigration, while also doing nothing about it, and in fact making the situation much worse.
The vote to leave the EU was, fundamentally, about national sovereignty and regaining control of our borders, but the Tories managed to betray the will of the British people by increased net migration to over 700k a year, 14 times the number of people who were entering the country in 1997.
The scale of the Tory betrayal of the British people with regard to immigration is why they suffered their most historic defeat, in the recent election. Keir Starmer didn’t win the British public over, in any meaningful sense. 20% of the electorate voted for him. Instead, millions of people voted for Nigel Farage and Reform instead of the Conservatives, handing victory to Starmer.
Over the last 27 years, a segment of the population may very well have voted for Labour or other left parties specifically because they want mass immigration, but it’s pretty safe to say a significant proportion of the British public, maybe the majority do not want mass immigration.
Understanding this is the only way that events of the last few months, from the election of Keir Starmer to the riots themselves, can be made comprehensible.
So no, the British people haven’t, in any meaningful sense, “literally voted” for mass immigration.
Hmmm…it seems like it was planned? By whom?
These are important articles to understand that there is a plan and the West wants to replace it’s populations and to shove through their agenda, whose agenda? The NWO/WEF/CFR and their blueprint Agenda21/30 established via UN’s The Rio Accords 1992, agreed to by GHW Bush ratified by Bill “the slut” Clinton moved forward by NAFTA Newt.
They do not have “the consent of the governed” even enshrined in The Magna Carta in 1215. Keep the truth coming out and we have a chance, our commonality will be their demise.
It’s important to understand that we aren’t talking illegal immigration here either. That’s part of it of course, but the majority of our replacements didn’t sneak in, they were allowed in legally.
BREAKING
Leicester square stabbing live london
Girl, 11, and woman knifed in horror central London attack – police rush to the scene
A man has been arrested in connection with the violent attack on the woman and child.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1935079/leicester-square-stabbing-live-london
Mental illness will be the cry from the “Auforities”!
Lock up you daughters and wives lads!
Dressing them in burkas from here on in will be like the characters in those silly zombies shows putting zombie blood and guts all over and walking among the brain eaters!
That country burning faster is better for us. they are the warning and its not warning enough.
Teach the daughters and wives self defense.
hundreds of people are killed in this country every month like that
This website below is not to make people hate races.
Again nothing racial. this could be any group ‘of men’ left unpunished or without any kind of submission to a father or mother figure.
Its to point out that masculinity and uncontrolled dominance of ‘any men’ left unpunished could have groups of their peers doing this to others.
https://whitegirlbleedalot.com/
It was a skinny white guy dressed in black.
Leicester Square is in the middle of central London, an area full of business people, government workers, shoppers, and tourists!
The UK is even slower than the US at revealing the identities of criminals.
Fresh blow for Keir Starmer as 700 migrants cross the Channel in a single day
Some 11 boats were detected on Sunday, which suggests an average of around 63 people per boat.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1934939/700-migrants-cross-channel-single-day-keir-starmer
His family isn’t under threat, so he doesn’t care.
The word is out and reinforcements are on the way. It’s an invasion
IN FACT, by voting for BREXIT multiple times, they voted AGAINST IT multiple times.
The same as we did by voting for all of the FAKE PROMISES politicians along the way who CLAIMED they were for shutting down the border and illegal immigration and building a wall, only to give us the middle finger when they got in, same as term limits and a whole host of other promises.
Then along came a carpenter, a builder, and we voted for him because we believed he could and would actually do what he said. We voted for him overwhelmingly, twice, and he won twice. Our beloved President Trump.
It was a skinny white guy dressed in black. I posted a tweet with him being arrested but it is awaiting moderation.
I feel bad for this woman but good luck finding anybody in government who cares about lockdowns. We now have a dummy on the Supreme Court who thinks that any law can supersede the Bill of Rights, and nobody is running on making sure nothing like this ever happens in America again, which means that it will happen again.
No, it wasn’t just “blue states” either.
Minnesota bar owner says ‘evil’ Tim Walz forced her into bankruptcy with COVID closures, $300K in legal bills
A former Minnesota bar owner who now commutes two hours a day to sling suds in neighboring Wisconsin said Gov. Tim Walz’s restrictive pandemic-era lockdowns in the state “decimated” local businesses — and caused financial ruin for those who stood up for their livelihoods.
“I think he’s an evil man who overstepped his role as the governor. He took small businesses and ripped them up. He destroyed us,” Lisa Zarza, 52, told The Post.
“I had to leave the state to be able to legally work and make a living.”
https://nypost.com/2024/08/11/us-news/minnesota-bar-owner-says-evil-tim-walz-forced-her-into-bankruptcy-with-covid-closures/
She needs to be in a President Trump ad.
Gives new meaning to the term “Drink Wisconsibly”, private group….https://www.drinkwisconsinbly.com/
Not pushing for them, just giving credit where credit is due for the little saying….
Trump to Sue Joe Biden’s DOJ Over Unprecedented Mar-a-Lago Raid for $100 Million
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-trump-sue-doj-mar-lago-raid-100/
Can he do like the Washington thugs and put the case in the same court with the same judge who ruled against the government’s case brought about by the raid?
SUPERB!
I love it, go on offense, Im going to donate to Trump again today
Very devious of Russia to manipulate the British elite into importing insane unsustainable levels of Immigrants and tolerating horrific violence and rape against the native population, while arresting any British citizens who complain.
AUG 11 2024
UK – the guardian
Far-right disorder had ‘clear’ Russian involvement, says ex-MI6 spy
There is “clear” Russian involvement in the far-right riots
Christopher Steele, the ex-spy who compiled a notorious dossier on Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia
[…]when you look at the original disinformation that surrounded the Southport killings, that does seem to have come from a Russian-linked website.”
[…] including people like Tommy Robinson, even conceivably Nigel Farage
[…]Sadiq Khan, the London mayor, said the Online Safety Act that came into force last October but has yet to be fully implemented was “not fit for purpose”.
Under the legislation, social media companies face fines of up to £18m or 10% of their global turnover if they fail to take robust action against content inciting violence or terrorism.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/11/far-right-disorder-had-clear-russian-involvement-says-ex-mi6-spy
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AUG 11 2024
UK – The Times
MI5 to scrutinise Tommy Robinson funding and checks ‘may extend to Farage’
[…]Steele, a counterintelligence specialist who worked for MI6 between 1987 and 2009,
[…]Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, said far-right groups were “unchristian” and their use of Christian imagery in the riots was an “outrage”.
“Let me say clearly now to Christians that they should not be associated with any far-right group — because those groups are unchristian,” he wrote.
https://archive.ph/ccqdw
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WHAT???? Christopher Steele is being used as some sort of reputable source of information or opinion????
I can’t believe they are allowing that a$$clown to come on tv as some sort of authority figure. This is mindboggeling.
The Brit version of Andrew McCabe…
Disgraceful that the plotters of the Russia hoax have all been very richly rewarded.
Eyewitness, Who Secretly Recorded Interrogation with Police, Claims to Have Overheard Police Radio Comms Mentioning ‘Blood in the Bathroom’ and ‘Second Shooter on the Loose’ Following Trump Assassination Attempt
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-eyewitness-who-secretly-recorded-interrogation-police-claims/
I really dislike these vague click-bait stories.
What I want to see is the name of the agent in charge of the Butler site, and their communications for the last 10 years. I also want to see the name that agent’s boss and ditto on their communications, and ditto for that person’s boss, all the way up the chain.
So far we have heard nothing from or about these criminals.
they know what you want to see. and they actively block it.
The blood in the bathroom is apparently from the cop who boosted to the roof… cut his hand coming down.
According to the guy being interviewed by cops, there was a guy acting like he owned the place and trying to get people to move away from the AGR building an hour before Crooks started shooting. The guy shooting video found out he didn’t from the actual owner and also says the guy came back after cops made him leave… thought he had a gun. This mysterious guy is on video. Let’s see what comes of that.
HUGE: Thomas Crooks Trained at Shooting Range, Where Multiple Federal Agencies Reportedly Train, Including DHS — Visited the Club 43 Times Including Holidays Since Last Year, Records Show
They were training him-IMO
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/huge-thomas-crooks-trained-clairton-sportsmens-club-where/
AGREED
Seems like the type of place that would have video recordings.
Yes in some ways this is a side issue with Walz, but for many of the men in the military it is no small thing, and they deserve to be heard.
“When the demands of service and leadership at the highest level got real, he chose another path.”
Tim Walz’s CO in the military. Wow.
I understand that it isn’t the MAIN issue, but I, for one, consider it to be a very clear indicator of a VERY flawed person! I want all of these stories to be made known and I want ALL of the dirt on both Harris and Walz to forever destroy the possibility of either of them being in any position of power or authority!
(I realize that is wishful thinking but a girl can hope, right?)
it matters to you.
meaning this topic is only to tickle your anger and not lefties. independents fit into 2 categories: 1) they vote republican but dont want to be known as it 2) they are dumb as ___.
the left hates you and they can spin on any topic. simple reply from them is ‘screw the Iraq war it was a scam by Republicans’.
Why are you trying so hard to move people on from this? It is a BIG DEAL and should be treated as such.
its a comment participating in dialogue.
help people stay on that topic if it feels important.
Yes in some ways this is a side issue with Walz
I have seen a few comments along that line, but not any justification for why this is an unimportant issue. It seems just as likely to me that people who minimize it are doing so because it is causing damage (to the dems).
It makes him appear to be a coward and a liar. That should do some damage.
Self-gelding Republicans never make damaging remarks about Democrats, it’s against Uniparty rules.
And don’t forget the supportive families and friends…they too were cheated…
NOTE the title of the video. That’s NOT the main point of what is being called her “racist tirade,” the usual leftist smear against dangerous TRUTH.
Her CORRECT point is that affirmative action was created to compensate for past discrimination against Blacks IN AMERICA and while she doesn’t agree with that since it doesn’t accomplish what it was claimed to accomplish, ANY minority persons from ANYWHERE in the world who JUST arrived here are now allowed to take advantage of it thereby effectively scr*wing “foundational Blacks” within the US.
Ann Coulter: ‘Kamala isn’t a foundational Black’ (2:43)
She’s right too. Black “leaders” have been complaining about this as well, “diversity” quotas at universities and in government have been filled by blacks of recent immigrant heritage.
We even had that one ninny on the news defending Affirmative Action because she benefitted from it, proving Ann’s point.
Bobby Jr. seems to be pretty much alone in not knowing what Affirmative Action has become, btw.
best secret in life. is to avoid letting our “friends” push us into race topics. Speak of American Topics to that race
As in, the Democrats are holding you back from the American Dream. Their control over your placement makes you an outsider, because they build your future with doubt of you earning it, as they call you stupid in need of placement.
Harris being an anchor baby and having grown up in Canada (kindergarten through high school) has to fake the experience.
Recall in the dem 2020 primaries she slammed Biden for his stance on busing claiming she had been bussed to school.
It was not in this country if she did ride a bus to school. (Note her talk when she touted school buses.)
Both parents were not citizens at her birth and her mother’s visa had expired when Harris was born,
At age 12 Harris moved from California to Montreal where she attended Westmount High School from grade 7 through 11 – nytimes.com/2020/10/05/world/canada/kamala-harris-montreal.html – bayobserver.ca/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-has-a-canadian-connection
If you have a reference regarding the expiration of the mother’s visa I would greatly appreciate your sharing it.
Interview with Judge Joe Brown / PDB Podcast / Ep. 328 on youtube.
Start at 1:27 where he discusses her.
Harris’s Canadian senior high school yearbook . She had this published and said she had attended school in Canada from kindergarten through 12th grade’
Even Don Le-Mon understood that part.
Coe, who is running for president of the Olympics IOC, says he has ‘a responsibility to preserve the female category’
I wonder if the Starmer-troopers will jail this man?
Heather Mac Donald points out how Biden’s lower court DEI appointees have already badly damaged that part of the justice system. For some reason this starts muted, so unmute:
https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/heather-mac-donald-on-last-weeks?timestamp=433
Tim Walz has ties to Muslim cleric with antisemitic views, gave state funding to his group: report
Tim Walz has ties to Muslim cleric with antisemitic views, gave state funding to his group: report
Walz’s administration reportedly donated $100,000 to Muslim cleric who praised Hitler
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tim-walz-ties-muslim-cleric-antisemitic-views-gave-state-funding-group-report
It’s worse than that: @GovTimWalz
doesn’t explicitly say he went to Afghanistan. No, he just lets this family that LOST A SON believe he was there – and came back with PTSD.
He was in ITALY.
Gold Star, Blue Star, retired, enlisted, commissioned….those who stayed behind to keep things going…families, friends etc…need to become vocal…
Brian Terry’s Killer Has Conviction Vacated by Appeals Court
By streiff | 3:05 PM on August 10, 2024
The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/2012/11/f0ba08b6-0543-4f01-b6ad-
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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the conviction and sentence of the man who killed Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
Heraclio Osorio-Arellanes was convicted in 2020 for his role in the 2011 murder of Terry, which was made possible by the ATF-run gunrunning operation known as “Fast and Furious.” Osorio-Arellanes was arrested by Mexican authorities on April 12, 2017, and subsequently sentenced to life in prison.
This “corpulace” person may be unaware that what he or she is seeing as word salad may be perfectly understandable in context. Many Americans just don’t know what the MSM is doing with everything Trump says or does.
I’m finding people don’t know that no one broke into the Capitol on January 6, because the MSM implies otherwise and also never shows the tapes that we’ve seen.
There are people online declaring that criticism of Governor Walz over his statements about his military service is lies, because that’s what they’ve been told in the MSM.
Okay, I was actually assigned a story years ago about whether or not Donald Trump could be removed under the 25th Amendment, and after speaking to a number of lawyers and historians (in addition to the psychiatrists who started a petition to remove him) I learned that the standard is “ability.” The president has to be “unable” to fulfill his or her duties.
Not impaired, not disordered, not morally or politically questionable or extreme, but literally unable. One lawyer asked me if I would consider Trump so impaired that he couldn’t be judged criminally responsible at a trial. The answer to that was and is no. Trump absolutely shows his age at times. But he’s clearly still sentient and making his own decisions, whether you like them or not. Biden meanwhile cannot find his way out of a hall without help and is obviously not in charge of his own White House. Do you want me to lie and say Biden is still able, or do you want me to lie and say Trump is unable?
Taibbi was rabidly anti-Trump several years ago. He wrote a book titled “Insane Clown President” and had several TDS-inspired articles published.
This is why I won’t take him as any sort of credible person.
In case you haven’t seen them yet, Marco Polo posted the transcripts from Hunter’s recent felonious gun purchase trial where he was found guilty of actual, not manufactured, felonies.
https://www.marcopolo501c3.org/p/bidentrialtranscriptsdays2and3
America is a clown show right now….
Delays hit 40% of Biden’s major IRA manufacturing projectsFT research shows that $84bn of initiatives announced in first year of the IRA and Chips Act have experienced slowdowns
https://archive.is/mJMoO#selection-1713.0-1719.119
Remember the problems with the ACA websites and signing up?
Trump Campaign Hacked, Microsoft Says Iran-Backed Group “Mint Sandstorm” Responsible
Aug 11, 2024
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-hacked-microsoft-says-iran-backed-group-mint-sandstorm-responsible
Microsoft’s cyber threat assessment unit said on Aug. 9 that a high-ranking official on a U.S. presidential campaign had been hacked by an Iran-backed group, with the Trump campaign later revealing that it had been the target of a cyber attack and linked the breach to “foreign sources hostile to the United States.”
The report from the Microsoft Threat Analysis Center (MTAC) indicates that an Iranian group called Mint Sandstorm that is connected to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps sent a spear phishing email in June to a high-ranking official on a presidential campaign from the compromised email account belonging to a former senior campaign adviser.
“Mint Sandstorm similarly targeted a presidential campaign in May and June 2020 five to six months ahead of the last U.S. presidential election,” MTAC said, adding that the same group also tried but failed to breach an account belonging to a former presidential candidate.
Note their failure to ID WHAT prez candidate. Of course, that’s revealed in their event table in the report below. It was, of course, TRUMP. His campaign should brag that from this we can see that “Islamic terrorists prefer Harris/Walz”
https://cdn-dynmedia-1.microsoft.com/is/content/microsoftcorp/microsoft/final/en-us/microsoft-brand/documents/5bc57431-a7a9-49ad-944d-b93b7d35d0fc.pdf
Mint Sandstorm
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/04/18/nation-state-threat-actor-mint-sandstorm-refines-tradecraft-to-attack-high-value-targets/
Has Barron’s appearance at rallies lessened? never was? increased?
is CVN77 (Hat on Melania’s head) the ship named after George Bush Sr. 41? – the CIA guy?
Peter Navarro is on the war room. He’s touting Trump Rally 2.0. No more personal attacks, having advisors talking specific policies, starting rallies at exactly 5 minutes after the start time and going exactly 55 minutes – will increase producer’s faith in carrying the content on more media. He makes a lot of sense. He needs a place in Trump’s army. I say army instead of cabinet, because we’re in a war.
Yes!
Maybe President Trump thinks talking policy is boring and personal attacks are more interesting and funny which keeps the attendees more engaged. Don’t know.
It seems to me that asking what kind of country do we want and use the many examples that Democrats are pushing and driving our country into oblivion as the leftist country vs a MAGA country. A current example is the Vermont Supreme Court just approved that school kids can be vaccinated without parent consent or knowledge. That should scare some of the soccer moms who might vote for anytime abortion.
I don’t know, but there are so many examples of Democrat policies and governance that should scare the pants off voters that care about freedom and our Republic-Don’t let a crisis go to waste and the Democrats are driving everyday crisis with their ideology and policies.
I think he looks at the rallies as his showcase.
The other stuff is for debates and interviews, etc.
“they” won’t cover Trump’s policies
Does anyone know the name of the incident that happened in the late 1940’s where the townspeople took back their local government through force because the police force and politicians were all crooked and abusing their power rigging elections?
Was wondering is there was ever a Hollywood movie made about this?
Do search for “Battle of Athens” Took place in Tennessee in 1946.
There was a Hallmark movie.
That’s it.
Thank you.
The Battle of Athens, Tennessee. Very interesting story.
The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.
Officially, the “Battle of Athens” in McMinn County began and ended on August 1, 1946. Following a heated competition for local offices, veterans in the insurgent GI Non-Partisan League took up arms to prevent a local courthouse ring headed by state senator Paul Cantrell and linked to Memphis political boss Ed Crump from stealing the election. When Sheriff Pat Mansfield’s deputies absconded to the jail with key ballot boxes, suspicious veterans took action. A small group of veterans broke into the local National Guard Armory, seized weapons and ammunition, and proceeded to the jail to demand the return of the ballot boxes. The Cantrell-Mansfield deputies refused, and the veterans, now numbering several hundred, opened fire. The ensuing battle lasted several hours and ended only after the dynamiting of the front of the jail. The surrender of the deputies did not end the riot, and the mob was still turning over police cars and burning them hours later. Within days the local election commission swore in the veteran candidates as duly elected. The McMinn County veterans had won the day in a hail of gunfire, dynamite, and esprit de corps.
Complete movie:
Here is the story (Athens, Tennessee):
https://www.military.com/history/time-world-war-ii-veterans-overthrew-corrupt-local-government-tennessee.html
FTA: “After fighting anti-democratic regimes in Europe and the Pacific for four years, World War II veterans were pretty happy to head home and have a drink or three to celebrate. Those parties lasted a long time.
But when one corrupt city government began to crack down on the hardened veterans, as well as local citizens, with repeated, excessive fines and arrests, the GIs fought for freedom once again. They violently ousted the local regime and ran the sheriff and his cronies out of town, never to return.
The government of McMinn County was run by an entrenched political machine that had controlled much of Tennessee politics since the early 1930s. In McMinn County, that machine was run by Paul Cantrell, the elected sheriff. For 10 years, he ran that county like he was a feudal lord.”
>>snip<<
“By Election Day 1946, things began to reach a boiling point. The veterans first tried the democratic way of changing the government. They formed a nonpartisan political party and ran against the political machine, which was now running Cantrell for his old office.
The election was the largest in local history. WWII veterans from around Tennessee came out to help their brothers-in-arms watch the polls for any signs of fraud. The sheriff’s office also hired outsiders, but they were to watch the GIs.
As Election Day dragged on, the vets learned that armed deputies were outside polling places. Then, news of irregularities and violence poured in.
A legal representative for the GI Party was arrested for protesting voting irregularities. Soon after, an elderly Black farmer was beaten and shot by a deputy for trying to vote in one of the precincts. The GIs descended on the location, forcing the offending deputy to almost fight his way to his cruiser with a loaded pistol and the ballot box. Deputies arrived at the GI Party Headquarters to make arrests for the incident but were beaten and taken captive.”
There was a movie “Battle of Athens”:
“An American Story” is the title of the movie. Apparently available on Hallmark.
This was a fascinating story and an epic showing of citizens fighting back against corruption.
Now we only go for that when it’s make-believe.
I would add Fahrenheit 451.
Tennessee? Is this it? Second link is rather long…
https://tennesseelookout.com/2020/11/24/1946-tennessee-election-parallels-2020/
https://www.americanheritage.com/battle-athens
Peter Navarro is discussing the whole strategy of the Trump campaign and rallies on Warroom right now. Surely he knows the MSM watches the show daily.
Why is it that the hubris of some of Trump team/supporters always comes to the front and potentially damages the entire campaign. Case in point the 2025 debacle pushed by both Navarro and Bannon.
Some of the ideas are good, but they take away the Trump fire and persona and the rally would not be a Trump rally at all. The crowds come for PDJT not for a sunday morning tv style show.
Peter is giving the left a terribly good strategy with the clips suggestion. He laid out a complete strategy for them. They already deceive us with clipped portions of PDJT’s words taken out of context.
I feel like most of the people who do this are self-serving opportunists. Navarro I’m not so sure of, but surely he understand it would be better if he stays quiet.
Ridiculous. Silly. Childish. Unnecessary. Yet, still, such a delightful Monday morning treat!
https://x.com/TheUnitedSpot__/status/1823017452516843710
what is this deal with Senate Confirmations of judges?
has that always been?
I thought local areas could handle who they hired, or are we talking about this new Federal Rulership by Judges? Were Federal Judges always around sine the begining and referenced in the Constitution?
Just thinking. seems strange watching these psychos that are nominated and then questioned by the Senate.
This is one of the biggest reasons why we need to get the Senate majority back. I have been watching some confirmation hearings and you’re right, there are psycho nominees, and unfortunately they will be confirmed because the Democrats have control right now.
At this point nobody should be voting for any Democrats. They’re all in it to ruin the country and prevent us from having any say in the future.
Lindsey Graham has been helping Senate Dems get as many of their nominees confirmed as quickly as possible.
When is Elon Musk’s interview with Donald Trump? Date, start time, how to stream
Former President Donald Trump will sit down for an interview on Monday night with Elon Musk, one of the world’s richest men.
Musk announced the interview Sunday on X, formerly Twitter, after Trump had teased it last week in a post on his social media platform, Truth Social.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/12/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x/74764422007/
Go back to yesterday’s postings. Sundamce has a post, including link.
HE’S BAAAAAAACKK!!
That is a GREAT ad! Love it.
Our local radio hosts mentioned this just now and said it was like watching a superhero style video and was very well made. So, I came here to find it and you’ve just posted it, dawg!
Thanks so much.
It already has 14.7 million views. 🙂
I think he used a statement by Bill Barr. haha
This teacher at the Harris-Walz rally just gave us the best ad for homeschooling yet
https://notthebee.com/article/watch-what-this-teacher-who-spoke-at-the-harris-walz-rally-says-about-the-purpose-of-education-this-is-the-best-ad-for-homeschooling-yet
Teacher: “I saw education for what it really was. The greatest instrument of social justice in this country.”
Right now Kamala’s people are weighing the pros and cons: How much will it cost us to hold on to Walz vs how much will it cost us to replace him.
Inconvenient truth
Massive increases in coral across the Australian Great Barrier Reef (GBR) have been reported for 2023-24 making it the third record year in a row of heavy growth. Across almost all parts of the 1,500 mile long reef, from the warmer northern waters to the cooler conditions in the south, coral is now at its highest level since detailed observations began.
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/08/09/huge-increase-in-coral-produces-third-year-of-record-highs-on-the-great-barrier-reef/
James Lindsay on Joe Rogan March 14, 2024 – Beneath Sheep’s Clothing (3:18)
Mel K & Julie Behling | Beneath Sheep’s Clothing: The Deep Capture of America | 5-11-24 (43:15)
The Mel K Show
https://rumble.com/v4uj4ti-mel-k-and-julie-behling-beneath-sheeps-clothing-the-deep-capture-of-america.html
Gutfeld is spot on!!
https://x.com/papitrumpo/status/1822401625614406081?s=42
Thank you for posting. Watched this live and was hoping someone would. It is worth the 2:19 minutes for readers/posters here to listen/watch. Subject: President Trump is not a politician. You are right. Gutfeld is spot on!
wearebreitbart
Vice President Kamala Harris — who on Saturday copied a campaign promise first announced by former President Donald Trump to eliminate taxes on tips — voted in 2022 to pass legislation that allowed the IRS to track down workers’ tips so that they could be taxed.
On August 7, 2022, Harris cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act that provided $80 billion in additional funding to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), which then got to work cracking down on the service industry’s reporting of tips so that they could be taxed.
“Two years ago today, I proudly cast the tie-breaking vote to pass our Inflation Reduction Act,” Harris’s Facebook account reminded the public on Wednesday, sharing a video of the vice president voting to pass the legislation.
“On this vote, the yay’s are 50, the nay’s are 50. The Senate being equally divided, the vice president votes in the affirmative and the bill as amended is passed,” Harris said in the August 7, 2022, video.
President Joe Biden’s White House also boasted that the Inflation Reduction Act “provided $80 billion in additional funding to the IRS.” In February 2023, the IRS released a proposed revenue procedure known as the Service Industry Tip Compliance Agreement (SITCA) program.
The agency described SITCA as “a voluntary tip reporting program between the IRS and employers in various service industries” that would include “monitoring of employer compliance based on actual annual tip revenue and charge tip data from an employer’s point-of-sale system, and allowance for adjustments in tipping practices from year to year.”
80 billion for the equivalent of scronging for change in the sofa.
Scrounging.
Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
Even skeptical Americans keep defaulting to the notion that there is some remaining baseline of establishment reliability. Then another institution is exposed as deceptive etc. People are shocked! Then they go back to wanting to believe.
Eastern Europeans look on in amusement.
https://x.com/walterkirn/status/1822843004811432255
From Twitter from MSNBC
Former President Trump informed the Department of Justice that he intends to
sue them over the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Minnesotan’s tried to recall governor walz 3 times.
ballotpedia.org/Tim_Walz_recall,_Governor_of_Minnesota_(2020)
Just heard PDJT IS BACK ON X. Anyone else can confirm??? Heard he is x ing up a storm😂 I don’t have X
Here’s the first post:
Thank you, bigly!!!
It was nothing.
This Election is All About Turnout and Getting Out the Truth
Don’t get discouraged by the state-run media’s fake polls showing Kamala Harris in the lead. They’re changing the cross tabs to boost Harris. Buckle in, and buckle tight. The real campaign begins after the DNC Convention on August 26th. #Election2024 #Polling #Polls
Video:
https://truthsocial.com/@jfradioshow/112949179343189604