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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Let’s look at one possible scenario Hokkoda describes above in which the 22 Republican holdouts against Jim Jordan join with the Democrats to form a coalition government, effectively giving full control of the Congress to the Left. Members of the Freedom Caucus then have no incentive to remain in the Republican Party and are free to pursue their own political agenda.
As this scenario might unfold, many of the Republicans who voted for Jim Jordan then leave to form a third party with the consequence that the Republican Party is effectively emasculated as a force in national politics and goes the way of Whigs in the 1850’s.
For now, let’s call the emergent party the America Freedom Party. (Other possibilities include the Constitution Party or even Alternatives for America.)
The first question. What impact does the implosion of the Republican Party in late 2023 have on Trump’s 2024 bid for the presidency? Does Trump stay with what is left of the Republican Party — a party which is in near complete shambles by January 2024 — or does he go with the America Freedom Party instead?
A second question. What impact does the implosion of the Republican Party as a major force in American politics have on candidates for state, county, and city elective offices?
Would the sudden implosion of the GOP guarantee that Democrats gain control of nearly all of America’s elective positions at all levels of government? If the Democrats did gain nearly full control, how long would that control last? Especially if the Democrats outlaw the America Freedom Party?
I am one of those annoying ones here who believes Trump has zero chance of seeing the WH again, at least using any current methods. Yes, people, its okay to differ on that note and no, i have not given up and all the other empty, angry tropes headed my way…
but given that, IMO one of the best things he COULD do for the former republic, to help stage what many of us know is to come, is to permanently ruin the party and salt the earth where it still tries to grow. I would DEFINITELY leave it, and negotiate a bombshell behind the scenes to get a couple dozen congressmen and maybe (but unlikely) a senator to come with him. and push a program in all 50 states so they can’t even get governorships.
The uniparty will not let President Trump win period.
The evidence is the stolen 2020 election
Scorched earth it should be!
And I don’t know why people don’t realize this –
if the uniparty is controlling things, it would
really have no negative effect
the positive is that we would have a MAGA
party with the possibility of getting something done
of course we would have to be careful about faux
MAGA characters
No one in congress wanted to investigate the obvious voter fraud after 2020, so it will be business as usual come 2024. Your prediction is not annoying but factual. So far the only ones running against the installed one on the (D) ticket are the witch and the jihadi who have zero chance of getting just 5%. Then you just have basket case biden whos polling is in the dirt.
The mail in ballots will flow unabated while the electronic tabulators pad the count, and the uniparty wins again. I already left the uniparty years ago, and the only repubs I will vote for is my state rep, and the SOS. Hageman is starting to become another all talk no action disappointment. Yes, salt the earth!
100%. The answer here is to use soft power. Cripple the GOP by exiting it and refusing to vote for anyone with an “R” next to their name. “But, but, but the Democrats will win” only works as an argument in a fantasy world where they are not already winning. Exit the field.
We need to withdraw our consent.
I don’t think the HFC has the courage to leave the GOP. The status quo, the gravy train, is very difficult. If you’ve ever seen “Love it or List it” on HGTV, why do the vast majority of people “love it”.
Comfort is what keeps us from breaking away.
If those Repubs do join with the Dems, I hope the HFC collectively leaves the party. Personally, I would call it the MAGA Party.
“We need to withdraw our consent.”
absolutely. and continuing to vote for R’s gives an unmistakeable sign to the fascists that we are still participating – and then accepting and consenting to the rules when we don’t get what we want.
destroying the parties and refusing to be part of the charade is a FUNDAMENTAL STEP in withdrawing the consent of the governed. they may think they have one party rule, but they will see the count of all those who refused to play their game.
I like it as the America First Party.
All you’ve said still doesn’t mean we should not vote. I see to many saying not to vote. The only way to expose the overt fraud is to make sure TO vote.
That would be my position if American.
A handful of MAGA Senators and a few dozen Congress person s in the U.S. system could create serious waves.
JMO
Cheers!
“Trump has zero chance of seeing the WH again”
You’re statement is annoying because you sound worse than a RINO or FOX news.
You don’t have to say everything that comes into your head.
You called the election for the other side, before we have even had an election.
That makes you worse than a democrat, because you pretend to support TRUMP.
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Where did the term ,”with friends like these who needs enemies come from”?
The origin of the adage, “With friends like these, who needs enemies,”
is uncertain, but many trace it back to the Bible.
In the book of Job, God tells Satan that, “There is no one on earth as good and faithful as [Job] is.
pie in the sky rhettoric
there are those who are paying attention
and Muley is one of them
“Trump has zero chance of seeing the WH again”
You’re statement is annoying , because you don’t know what TRUMP supporters will do to keep the election from being stolen again.
People are pissed and they are tired of having anything stolen from them.
Who says the traitors get to stay Republican?
Why not boot them out instead of setting up an irrelevant third party?
How about no parties at all? They are nothing but tools of Lucifer.
“How about no parties at all?”
Trump is winning by double digits.
Seems kind of fishy that you’re upset and want to get rid of the parties when the GOP is winning.
the GOP winning means nothing
budget?
J6?
Ukraine money?
Because “we” don’t own the party. Either philosophically or financially, or legally.
And “we” have tried for many years to “reform” the party and what did the Party do? What did Mcturtle do to the Tea Party? What did McCarthy do to the Freedom Caucus?
We are battered, and they are abusive. CAN’t be reformed.
RINOs own the infrastructure and use it like a razor edged sword.
it like the break in the Episcopal church with conservatives moving to Anglican. There are beautiful Episcopal churches that have 50 people inside of them.
The Anglicans are filling up their meeting in a strip mall BUT they have control of the order of worship..
Because its a big club and we aint in it
A hostile takeover!
Or how about this: a non-threatening “kindler, gentler” takeover . . . like hollowing out American communities to turn them into Rust Belts under NAFTA and other not-America First “Republican” leadership.
Having a fake opposition party was a large reason why Heritage America slept through the Uniparty destruction and dismantling of our country.
Through its support of mass immigration, its paralysis in power to prevent 12-20 million illegal aliens from entering and staying, its failure to address the “anchor-baby†issue, the Republican Party has birthed a new electorate that will send it the way of the Whigs.
Pat Buchanan— Suicide of a Superpower
I’m betting there’s over 50 million illegals and then there’s their spawn – so…
Immigration and World Poverty Explained with GUMBALLS – Does Immigration Really Help The Poor?
True. NumbersUSA had it at 30 million + two decades ago.
and they sign them up to vote
then place their faux votes for them
If you start with a flawed premise, you are prwtty much guaranteed to come to flawed conclusion, and those who do not study their history, are doomed to repeat it.
IMHO, the Whigs did not REALLY disappear, they joined the new Republicans, and said to these political neophytes;
YOU guys take the lead, step out in the lights, cause you have a large base or following, …WE former Whigs will focus on mundane aspects like party organisation and funding,..”
In other words todays RINOS, yesterdays “Country Club” Republicans, ’60’s “Rockerfeller Republicans are the WHIGS; wealthy and with absolutely no political agenda other than using political influence for self-agrandisement, they (for instance) had no particular objection to slavery, but saw benefit in using it as an issue.
Thats the “deal with the devil” the young, naive largely evangelical Christian new Republican Party made at its inception, its how it was able to elect a POTUS in only 4 years, but has paid the price for it, ever since.
Hence, I personally think THEY should leave the party, not US.
Beyond that, such a messy divorce DOES mean THEM going over to the D party, 1-2 months ago a group of them said as much.
The thing is, POLITICALLY the D brand has been seriously trashed during the last 2 1/2 years especially.
At least 6 Democrat State Legislators have switched parties, as has a major city (Dallas, Texas) D mayor.
What is happening now isn’t just the collapse of the R wing of the Uniparty, the result of the R wings collapse is the whole damn bird is falling.
Munipal, County and State offices are ripe for the picking, as the National D party has so trashed the brand and ignored any concerns from “down ticket” pols, that they are literally running away from the National party.
America First, or A1 would get my vote, if we’re looking for a new name.
But that would be my second choice, as my first would still be to formally take over control of all 57 State R parties, and the RNC from those Whigs, and throw them out.
Actually, hangings and/or tar and feathering would be my preference.
Or, at least force a formal leaving of the party, and taking the party apparatus WITH us; most Precinct Captains are MAGA, and the volonteers they work with.
In many States, the District, and County boards and chairs are MAGA, as well.
It is chiefly the State Executive boards and the RNC that are entrenched RINOS.
IF MAGA leaves the R party, its a group of chiefs with no Indians, or a factory with workers on strike.
Like a divorce with an abusive spouse, either WE leave, or we change the locks. Personally I prefer waiting till they pass out in bed drunk, tie them into bed and set it on fire,…but thats just me.
Anyway, once the split is official, EVERY elected “R” official will have to take a stand, and commit to either remaining R or being A1.
Dutch, first I would like to let you know I appreciate your depth of knowledge on the many subjects you touch on, I look forward to reading your posts and trying to gleen some new knowledge or perspective of this life we live. I do believe that you are beginning to see that only action and not words will save this Republic, only We the People can do this and only if we act as one. Everyone is looking for a leader when in fact each of us knows deep down inside what must be done. It will not be easy, it will not be clean, mistakes will be made along the way but as long as We the People keep our eyes on the prize there will be no stoping us.
“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty”
On the money post dutch. There was a small Populist party in the 90’s where I lived, based on Buchanan’s Make America First Again platform with the GOPe did all they could to destroy
Populism is the way forward. I voted Populist in 92 after New World Order CFR Bush ‘won’ and Pat ‘lost’ the Primaries.
There is no conservative party left in Washington. Conservative thinkers and writers who were to be the watchdogs of orthodoxy have been as vigilant in policing party deviations from principle as was Cardinal Law in collaring the predator-priests of the Boston archdiocese.
Pat Buchanan— Where the Right Went Wrong
Under the rubric of conservatism, the Republican party of Bush I and II has been reinventing itself into what conservatives would have once recognized as a Rockefeller party reciting Reaganite rhetoric.
Pat Buchanan— Where the Right Went Wrong
“A Stitch in Time” provides precisely the allegory you are asking for Dutchman.
Dutchman, breaking news as of 12 PM EDT. The third vote on choosing a Speaker has come and gone and now 25 Republicans say no to Jim Jordan.
And so the pressures leading towards a possible dissolution of the Republican Party, at least at the national level, are growing stronger. (Or so I think personally,)
In your opinion, does this emerging situation either help, or else hinder, the goal of having MAGA take complete control of the Republican Party at the national level of government — depending upon how MAGA Republicans choose to manage their own role in this developing situation?
Agreed with everything you wrote, Dutch. Even setting the bed on fire.
Dutch, Nice to see some softening on your commitment to the Republican Party. How do you evacuate them from the halls of power? The Colorado situation is demonstrative as Caucus attendees have become more and more conservative, however, the RINO’s and Uniparty work in concert to control who gets elected.
I have a giant burr under my saddle over almost any “election” in Colorado since Polis and the Four Horseman bought control , with $100s of millions, of Colorado and implemented Vote By Mail.
Ken Buck is especially frustrating because the he lost at the caucus level but somehow got the ballots to win the seat. The precinct strategy was implemented. RINO’s still won. The Republican primary election was stolen from Tina Peters by including a ringer to split her overwhelming support. She is under house arrest for questioning the system.
Conservatives were threatened with fraud allegations when questions were asked at El Paso County about misplaced priorities. As long as America First votes can be distributed to the RINOs on the ballot we will lose.
I’ve been saying for-ev-er that there has to be an America First Party to prevent the RINO steal from the operational side.
Maybe this fight over the Speaker gavel will be the lever that moves things..
As far as I am concerned, “Republican” and “Democrat” are two colored brand-names of a single “UniParty” that is now dying. Soon it will join the (long and interesting!) WikiPedia list of “DEFUNCT American Political Parties,” and no one will miss them.
These have nothing to do with PDJT, who represents a rising star and a brand new force. He isn’t “Republican” at all. Never was. He represents a brand new thing which cannot be denied, no matter how hard they try. He is entirely unlike anything that came before, and this IS the future … with or without him personally.
“Fundamental change” does not happen often, but, inexorably, it always does. “You are living in interesting times.”
The Constitution Party already exists.
https://constitutionparty.com
For anyone out there who thinks that RFK Jr. ‘s support for Reparations is going to help him or FJB, please read this piece from the Federalist.
The cost of paying reparations to black Americans is uncertain, according to the report.
It could range from $196 billion to $53.3 trillion, but the average across all estimates is $12.9 trillion. For comparison, closing the black-white wealth gap could cost $15 trillion.
Who Pays and Who Receives?
This cost of reparations could fall on all non-black Americans. As many as 70 percent of those Americans descended from ancestors who arrived after slavery ended.
The potential recipients of reparations range anywhere from 75 percent to 90 percent of black Americans, according to the report.
Using the average estimated cost of $12.9 trillion, this would bring a payout of $360,000 to $430,000 per person.
The highest estimate of $53.3 trillion would bring a payout of $1.48 million to $1.78 million per person.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/19/report-democrats-reparations-crusade-could-cost-your-household-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars/
the cost is not the problem with reparations. it is the fundamental immorality of it, and the cynicism of the vote dredging.
Disgusting pandering to the lowest common denominator.
This is as bad as thinking that black people don’t have/don’t know how to get photo id’s.
Soft racism.
This proves RFK is just another DUMB POLITICIAN pandering to voters to buy them out.
Politician: a person who uses a weathervane as a compass. 🤡
Isn’t the past 50 years of unlimited welfare, food stamps, free medical, free housing, free college and free defence lawyers when they arrested repeatedly…
…would be enough reparations!
Since the Democrats are the party of slavery( no really-look it up) I say all democrats must pay.
LOL! That would mean all the democrats would break the doors down to leave the democrat party.
Reparations to “Blacks” has always been an unserious ploy, and even getting into arguments about it, using facts and logic, is like going down the same path with Climate Change, or any of the other crazy crap the new crop of marxists have come up with, all of which are designed to divide.
Even most “Black Americans” know they have some “white blood” and most “whites” have some “black”; are we all going to do DNA tests, to detirmine the amount we pay or recieve?
That RFK is grasping at this straw, shows how desperate he is, and how he is showing his true nature.
He looks “real good” only from a great distance, but the closer you get, the WORSE he looks.
We’ve all experienced the “Hubba hubba,…oh,.yuck!” and thats what Jr. is.
This would mean that BLM would be paid for setting everything they can get their hands on afire. Do we have to pay them for breaking the law? I think this whole reparations thing is ridiculous. We don’t owe them a damn thing.
You can’t close the wealth gap because it’s a lifestyle gap. Illegitimate kids, drug use, dropping out of high school etc. is why the wealth gap exists.
Take a look at the cities – there used to be black neighborhoods with decent houses. Those neighborhoods now have derelict buildings everywhere because black people didn’t take care of their grandparents/great grandparents property when they got it. Teenage moms and unemployed pot smoking would be gangsters aren’t good at that.
RFK can’t see beyond some of the liberal tropes because of his upbringing. He has been trying, IMO, to find things out for himself, but it is also my opinion that he isn’t trying hard enough.
Reparations are stupid, yes. But why are you sowing division by ignoring the past?
Black neighborhoods were destroyed because of the purposeful destruction of the church, the family, rewarding single mother hood, drugs, race hustlers, and govt policies that rewarded failure rather than success.
All races have suffered from it but given the black poverty before the 60’s, it hit the emerging black families much sooner and harder than non-blacks.
We shouldn’t even be calculating the cost of reparations, doing so furthers a false argument.
The answer is no.
I do not mean this about you, Seneca. But there is a saying… I’m not sure by whom. But it basically says that if “you” acknowledge a bogus argument then you have established that you are a whore and are now haggling over the price.
There is no “right” number for reparations is my point.
I think everyone who believes in reparations should donate their money. Watch as nobody does. They just want to do it with your money. Just like they think you are unnecessary and a worthless eater.
Hello, black-skinned person! Because we know that your black skin makes you inferior, and you can never be equal to the white man, we are going to give you free money to “compensate you for your handicap.”
CON • DE • SCEN • DING (adj.) …
Bannon on fire today.
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CALL TO ACTION: 🇺🇸 Lightem’ Up! Let your Reps know you want Jim Jordan for Speaker. We CAN NOT Lose The House! 💥
https://gettr.com/post/p2hypoib3d1
https://t.me/BannonWarRoom/18042
voices like Bannon need to start openly calling for the destruction of the party and the formation of a new – if they. cannot get such simple things right.
IMO the formation of a coalition government by both left and “right” would be one of the better things for this former republic right now – it would force many millions to see just what the uniparty is – dedicated to warmongering and graft with our money.
even now I think a lot of people fail to admit or see that.
The left?
Nah…
It was lost last January.
Oh for cripes sake!
We can not “lose” what we NEVER HAD.
WE did not “lose” the House, in 2018 when Ryan gifted the gavel to Pelosi;
The Uniparty had control of the House before and after the midterms, and the two wings just tagged-teamed US.
And WE did not ‘gain control’ of the House, in 2022, the Uniparty just tag-teamed again.
Hence, saying “We can not lose control of the House” if thats what Bannon is actually saying, is expressing extreme ignorance or duplicity and deception.
Thanks for reaffirming my beliefs. I believe there was to be a red wave 2022…..But McCarthy had a big hand in thwarting that . And of course add on the cheating. Funny they lost some in CA and NY where they had pulled their troops to concentrate on knocking out, actually cheating out, the MAGA candidates that were sure to win. Those wins in the Bluest States of CA, NY proved to me the red wave existed. The 2024 cheat will be so brazen I hope it sparks the outrage and resulting action that is needed. NO more complying with their corruption.
Boehner, Ryan then McCarthy.
And they complain about losing majorities.
Yes, and same for 2020. In solid blue states (CA,NY,IL whose population is 25% of total country), Trump GAINED share in 2020 vs. Hillary in 2016.
Why? Because there was no need to cheat in solid blue states and the results show small but real gains vs 2016.
Too late
They will just keep adding a few each vote to demoralize us
That’s the plan.
These people are voters 🙂
Would you rather have a free one-ounce gold coin, or $20 bucks?
I lived in Encinitas.
This doesn’t surprise me.
Ask them who’s on “Love Island” and they can tell you exactly all of the personalities.
As my Italian grandmother would say, “Stuhnahd”
I give up. What does “Stuhnahd” mean?
Stupid
Problem is there is no way to verify that gold is real gold vs gold plated lead. I used that example because it’s the same reason gold would be useless during the SHTF scenario. It’s great for wealth preservation for afterwards when it can be verified. So with that said, part of me can’t blame them for their answer. If some random guy asked me a question like that I would be suspicious of their snake oil.
Not a one asked him if they could verify it. No one even asked him if they could have a receipt. No one said they would take the coin “IF” it was real.
Jay Leno did a segment every week or so called, “Jay Walking” where he would do very similar stunts. On a few occasions he would tell the audience up front something along the lines of, “This is the first six people we ran across!”
Common sense would tell me that it would be highly unlikely someone would actually film themselves CHEATING people which is what, saying the coin is gold when it wasn’t, would be.
Mark Dice does “man on the street” videos too.
The disturbing part, to me, is that these people vote!
Here’s an example –
Joe Rogan Killed a Triceratops, and People Aren’t Very Happy About It
Mark Dice
(video run time = 4:14 minutes)
Wouldn’t the weight of a gold plated coin be different?
it would likely have been forged at 1 oz.!
I would take the chance.
Why could this not happen in my neigbborhood!!!
I am certain this polling is fake. Biden will make use of it
Large portion of Americans doubt democracy and view violence as acceptable, poll finds
https://archive.ph/YoUCF#selection-1585.19-1585.105
why do you think its fake? “our” government has demonstrated over and over again that we have no actual voice, and that the consequences of somply taking what you want are shrinking rapidly.
it is logical for them to conclude that if they want something, they will have to resort to other methods than asking nicely.
We have arrived
We have definitely arrived.
And it’s a Brave New World.
and they call it a fight for democracy…..
Zelensky’s crime against Christianity
https://fondfbr.ru/en/articles/religious-persecutions-in-ukraine-en/
Trump Latinos…
The song “Soldiers” is going VIRAL
we sure have been WATCHING for a long time…. not much application of consequences, though….
As never before the grimy covering they’ve been hiding under has been removed. Matt Gaetz has done us a huge service by shining the klieg lights on the worst of them.
The ones who have all but shouted “I don’t work for you!!” to their voters have done us a huge service by standing in the blinding centre of those lights.
Primaries will come around soon enough, Muley.
Love the King Arthur Sword meme. Ironically I was just listening to a conversation on the radio about that story being true. Great memes btw Bet. Cheers
I thought it was brilliant, Colkitto.
And now the “No” votes this morning have risen overnight from 22 to 25, all the while the global fires burn faster and more intense.
The House is our House, not the private abode of those Dems posing as RINOs. A fact of no consequence to these self regarding grifters and underminers of our moribund Republic.
Nothing more really has to be said.
You’ve covered it all.
Good job!
Jake Sherman
@JakeSherman
QUORUM CALL: 427 MEMBERS present
214 to win the speakership
seven absences.
10:48 AM · Oct 20, 2023
The U.S. supported the Iron Dome project to the tune of 3 billion dollars. However, the U.S. cannot deploy their Iron Dome batteries on U.S. soil to protect Americans.
Israel has refused to give America the source code:
https://rollcall.com/2023/10/13/fate-of-two-idle-iron-dome-batteries-in-u-s-remains-unclear/
maybe they don’t trust our government not to leak and hack it?
Or sell it to China. Via Hunter.
OR–considering the backstabbing nature of this administration–hand over the source code to Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas.
You can bet there’s a GOOD reason for Israel not handing it over to the U.S. After all, if I were a leader in Israel, I most certainly wouldn’t!
“Maybe he’s born with it…maybe it’s Maybelline!”
Only his bestest boy friend knows for sure
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Too long living with Frank Luntz.
PLEASE, TL!!!
I’m eating breakfast! 😎
With or under?
Wow is he finally coming out of the closet? Seventh grade mean girl mentality.
To all the media’s “urban warfare experts”:
Where is the Hamas supply line analysis (the one the IDF has surely been working on non-stop)?
My SWAG: the tunnel-dwellers’ version of “crypto” will not end in “currency,” but concrete.
Hakeem Jeffries just called Jim Jordan a “clear and present danger to the American people” before offering his support for Patrick McHenry and others.
If ever there was a unifying mandate for House GOP it’s Hakeem Jeffries’ disgusting smear of Jim Jordan. We must NOT give the Dems what they want.
Video: https://t.me/CharlieKirk/12532
maybe he means danger to the american government? i doubt that as well, but what is he threatening to do to the people? steal slightly less of our money?
the horror!
500 and change dips#!+s in the imperial palaces on the potomac who think its just politics as usual….
Justin Trudeau is evil.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/trudeaus-liberal-party-blocks-bill-that-would-have-prevented-canada-from-euthanizing-the-mentally-ill?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20231019Trending-CanadianEuthanization&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News
The mentally ill… oh, the irony…
McCarthy nomination speech for Jordan was pretty good.
We will have to agree to disagree.
It’s words and he could whip the recalcitrant now 25. He isn’t and he won’t.
Anyone that lives with Frank Luntz is enjoying the chaos and has zero interest in America First.
The UniParty sees this as a way to repudiate MAGA and show voters that they really don’t give a damn.
Just like Scalise voting for Jordan but aligning behind the scenes to hamstring him.
On the Contrary. I thought it was lacking enthusiasm and sound reasoning. Personally I think McCarthy’s support is an act…while he hopes out of frustration the house moves back to him as Speaker.
We all know if the Dims had a chance to elect the speaker, it wouldn’t be Jefferies. These people make me sick
LIVE
U.S. House of RepresentativesHouse SessionThe House will continue voting in the House Speaker election to replace former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who was removed from the position on October 3rd.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?531284-1/house-session&live
Biden and Garland are attempting to OVERTHROW our elections and Constitution. The CRIMINAL judicial system has become a corrupt mess of ROGUE judges who DO NOT UPHOLD the Constitution. There must be laws to DISBARR and REMOVE them. America is on the brink of communism by the JUDICIARY!
spoiler alert: they ALREADY overthrew it.
what is going on now is a debate on whether we will restore it or not, and by what means.
“Vote harder” is the only means I’ve seen so far!
I think the debate is more of a who gets what of the carcus…. unless you’re referring to the debate on CTH
Remember that time when the L.A.Times hid a video of The Lightbringer praising a PLO terrorist? Fun times. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-oct-29-na-video29-story.html
I was just thinking about that the other day. Can we see it now?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/exclusive-police-state-movie-shocking-footage-fbi-smashing/
FTA “Today, The Gateway Pundit is posting never-before-seen footage of Chris Wray’s FBI in action – smashing down the door of senior Joseph Bolanos’s home in New York. Bolanos is featured in “POLICE STATE.” He describes to Dinesh D’Souza what happened that day when the FBI came for him and left his home in shambles.”
Wonder who here is next? At least Joseph Bolanos wasn’t assassinated! The corrupt to the core FBI should be forbidden use of “no knock” warrants!!! Some State DA needs to issue that order/proclamation!!!! JMO
its an important reminder for those still espousing “don’t take the bait” (code for “don’t leave your house and it will be okay”) or “i am waiting until it goes hot”….
they are already slaughtering, persecuting, and imprisoning us. with impunity.
and yet still, we consent.
Should be “Some State Attorney General”!
Im SURE its just a coinkydink that the Four Seasons also owns the top floors of Mandaly Bay in Vegas…….https://www.westernjournal.com/gop-congressman-tells-bill-gates-notice-four-seasons-hotel-qatar
Well, it appears Jordan has not gained any significant support. As I write, he’s neck and neck with Jeffries, and 21 have already voted for various others. Gonna need more votes to elect a Speaker.
We need to keep reassuring those who vote against jordan, that we will remember to vote them out (even if that means voting for a dem).
Why are so many of the GOPe against jordan on appropriation committees? (do they get a ‘cut’ like the ‘big guy’ so they don’t want the possibility of any investigation into ukraine and other corruption )?
the Speaker has a not insignificant possibility of being President, given Biden’s deterioration and kamala’s incompetence and unsuitability (during wartime…) If there is no Speaker, IIRC The Senate leader becomes President. The Dems and GOPe can right now make schumer President by getting rid of biden, and removing kamala (promise a judgeship or even SC Justice). The GOPe and dems can keep their uniparty gravytrain monopoly relatively easily.
NO!! No more holding of the nose a picking the lesser of two evils…
IMO it is because Jordan is a Trump supporter.
And now, a few minutes later, there are 24 votes for “others”. Jordan has LOST support, and Jeffries is 15 votes ahead.
More people to vote against.
If the Republicans are so principled that they cannot listen to their constituents, surely they should resign.
Just saw on Gateway Pundit that Jordan lost third vote for speaker-19 RINOS voted against him.
McCarthy is speaking out about Gaetz saying the conference shouted Gaetz down. McCarthy is really confirming what everyone thought about him when he first ran for speaker, IMO. He committed to do certain things to get votes then didn’t. Establishment to the core.
The Republican Party is crashing and burning and it’s out into the open who the Establishment RINOs are. Gaetz just asked and gained commitment from McCarthy what most conservative voters want the Republicans to do. But, the Republicans in congress don’t want to do what the voters want.
Next election cycle will be very interesting-Hopefully we can get rid of these sleazy people.
I haven’t seen the breakdown yet, but I think it must be more than 19. Voting appears concluded, 25 votes for “others”, and Jeffries lost two votes to total 210. Jordan got 194.
“Get to the floor and keep voting. Rip their masks off. Let the whole nation see, particularly these southern congressmen. Corrupt up to their eye balls. The appropriators and armed services committee. Expose them to the nation. Let their constituents see.” -Steve Bannon
https://gettr.com/post/p2sz85dc328
https://t.me/BannonWarRoom/18059
Both Scalise and McHenry should have – and still should – stand up and strongly plea, cajole, and persuade those voting for them to stop being little children and close ranks with the rest of their causus and vote for Jordan (that means both publicly AND privately). We the people need to continue to burn the phone lines up (calmly, rationally).
If neither one of the two can actually lead the handful voting for them to set aside their petty nonsense and change their votes to Jordan, then they are most definitely not worthy of the votes being given to them or be expected to lead the other 200+ members of their caucus.
I read elsewhere that Scalise is undermining Jordan in private. Be sure that he and McCarthy are working against him.
Amen. Keep on voting and we’ll keep tabs on the rinos and remove them at the voting booth.
I heard that the GOPe plan behind closed doors was to incrementally decrease support for Jordan with each subsequent vote. This will backfire on them. Let the stupid game go on to completion.
Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
@Peoples_Pundit
It is now very clear that
@realDonaldTrump
is outperforming among younger voters and non-white voters.
Emerson | BIG DATA POLL
Hispanics: 42% | 42%
Black: 19% | 19%
18-29: 45% | 40%
Remarkable similarities, even media/university polls w/ stronger numbers
The Republicans are showing exactly why they earned the reputation of being the “stupid” party.
When we look back on the day after election 2024- President Trump will rue the day he cast his lot with those shit bags.
RINO holdout Ken Buck says he won’t vote for Jim Jordan because Jordan won’t acknowledge Joe Biden won the 2020 Election.
Well here’s Buck in August 2020 saying mail-in ballots are “appropriate” and Trump was just “paranoid” for suggesting otherwise.
Makes a little more sense now, doesn’t it?
Tweets by RepKenBuck
do me a favor, Ken – STAY OUT OF MY FOXHOLE.
Looks like ole Ken Buck is confirming he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Video was limited to 60 seconds and cut off the best part.
Meanwhile, in other news…am wondering where Petco is going to get there bug treats for dogs (crickets and grubs)…
Now I know, linked by The Liberty Daily:
https://revolver.news/2023/10/tyson-foods-teams-up-with-the-world-economic-forum-to-open-an-insect-processing-plant/
Tyson CFO was known to say something about “products good for people”, nothing about whether they ‘want’ them.
I can’t imagine all those busy moms who use the nuggets and such as a quick meal…time to chose another company or product.
The governor needs to fix this one, too, before it spreads.
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
🚨 25 VOTES AGAINST JIM JORDAN ON SECOND BALLOT:
Bacon
Buchanan
Buck
Chavez-Deremer
D’Esposito
Diaz Balart
Ellzey
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick
Garbarino
Gimenez
Gonzales
Granger
James
Kean
Kelly
Kiggans
LaLota
Lawler
Miller Meeks
Molinaro
Rutherford
Simpson
Stauber
Womack
11:49 AM · Oct 20, 2023
The three additional votes against Jordan today were from:
Fitzgerald
Kean
Molinaro
Make Gender Great Again > Huckabee bans “woke, anti-woman language” on state documents
3rd Round:
1.Bacon–McHenry
2.Buchanan–Donalds
3.Buck–Emmer
4.Chavez-DeRemer–McHenry
5.D’Esposito–Zeldin
6.Diaz Balart-Scalise
7.Ellzey-Garcia
8.Ferguson-Scalise
9.Fitzpatrick-McHenry
10.Garbarino-Zeldin
11.Gimenez-McCarthy
12.Gonzales-Scalise
13.Granger-Scalise
14.James-Donalds
15.Kean-McCarthy
16.Kelly-Scalise
17.Kiggans-McHenry
18.LaLota-Zeldin
19.Lawler-McHenry
20.Miller-Meeks-McHenry
21.Molinaro-Zeldin
22.Rutherford-Scalise
23.Simpson-Scalise
24.Stauber-Westerman
25.Womack-Scalise
https://truthsocial.com/@gracechong/111268138353224667
A civil war is going to break out inside the Republican Party along the old trench lines of the Goldwater-Rockefeller wars of the 1960s, a war for the heart and soul and future of the party.
Pat Buchanan— Where the Right Went Wrong
Brian Fitzpatrick is not a RINO.
He’s a Democrat with a red tie.
Unfortunately, Brian Fitzpatrick is the best they can do in that district.
Jefferies has lost his 18th straight bid for Speaker. Good news is Congress can’t waste anymore of our money without a Speaker
Todays magic number was 214.
Jefferies was 4 turncoat republicans from being speaker.
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He gets WAY off track over and over again and barely discusses the title topic and, unfortunately, their show notes leave much to be desired, so the only way to see the must see compilation videos is to start watching near the end of the show starting at 49:30. NSFW.
The Worst Speech In Presidential History (Ep. 2114) – 10/20/2023
Dan Bongino
20 Oct 2023
https://rumble.com/v3qk2ls-the-worst-speech-in-presidential-history-ep.-2114-10202023.html
On his and Dinesh D’Souza’s “No sh*t, Sherlock?” Police State film mentioned at the end of that podcast to be in theaters for two days next week and online later, do you think it’s already bad enough for cell phone geofence location data to be bought from commercial sources by the police state for those who show up to the theater showings and much easier IP address monitoring of anyone who watches it online?
His Alzheimer’s is picking up speed. Ask me how I know … 😭
The same damned thing that they did to Lenoid Brezhnev. (No. DON’T look.) The same kind of ruthless people are now doing it to him. And he’s so power-hungry and money-hungry that he’s letting them do it. But Lord Death 💀 is not far away now.
BTW, that tendency for the MSM worldwide to be anti-Israel indicates to me that a wider war which would be the “final solution” to the Iranian regime and its pending, FOREVER game changing nuke is NOT something the Manchurian Candidate’s handlers want… which is why I do.
How’s this for a strategy: we all call and say, “It’s fine with us, the American people, that you NEVER ARRIVE AT A SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE and that way YOU CAN’T APPROPRIATE OUR MONEY TO ANYONE.
“IF YOU CAN’T APPROPRIATE, YOU CAN’T SPEND.”
AMERICANS FOR STOPPING THE THEFT OF OUR MONEY!
Thats beginning to sound better and better!
Sundance already warned us that Jordan was corrupt weeks ago. We will only be disappointed with him in the long run as his uniparty goal is the same as as McCarthy. No speaker is the best option now as it is slowing down the government by a little bitty bit.
Unfortunately, I think it’s very unlikely that House members would ever concede the power to appropriate. It’s their main perk. If they move forward with a fourth vote today, Jordan will probably lose by even more. Opposition to electing him has grown slightly with each vote. It’s hard to authoritatively know why, but the fact that the votes for others are beginning to include single votes for a wider variety of names indicates to me some sort of “Never Jordan” alliance is forming.
THIS.
i want NO SPEAKER and NO LAWS until the term ends. totally fine with that, and i don’t care what they gaslight us with for “funding” – these evil bastards are likely to start slaughtering children to try and shame the GOPe into turning the printing press back on.
if i am being honest, i say LET THEM. NO SPEAKER. NO LAWS PASSED.
SHUT
IT
DOWN
Been thinking that all along.
Heard a rumor and it appears to be true. The evening of the Hamas attack I immediately placed an online order for 1000 rounds of 556 at 33 cents per round. Today I look and the same ammo is 50 cents per round.
Rumor was that a major supplier to the consumer market had been fully committed to military production.
Another run on ammo?
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/5.56x45mm-nato
A run by the paranoid feds?
Or just by the paranoid?
My guess is 9mm will be next!
https://ijr.com/explosion-tears-hornady-ammo-chemical-compound-building-one-dead/
Hornady ammo plant in Nebraska will probably be offline for awhile and Lake City stopped selling commercial probably because of increased military demand?
https://bearingarms.com/ryan-petty/2023/10/13/ammunition-shortages-sparked-by-hamas-terrorism-in-israel-day-of-rage-threat-n76058#google_vignette
Seems to be another panic buying spree while there’s shortages driving prices up.
Carlos GImenez R (Texas?) was just on FBN and David Asman (filling in for Cavuto) asked him why he was still opposing Jordan when McCarthy nominated him today… he said it was because of the pressure campaign! So, his voters calling him to support something his voters want is the reason he won’t vote for Jordan!!
It was a very contentious interview, to say the least!
He is so damned childish! Needs to be primaried…
So, in other words….he needs more pressure. 😁
Also….it isn’t Jim Jordan’s fault his voters are calling him. So his resistance isn’t to Jordan…it is to the voters.
And that IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE GOP. They don’t like their base.
EXACTLY!!!!
The GOP would rather cut a deal with Democrats than cut a deal with MAGA. There.
Pressure campaign coming from what source? Did he explicitly say from the public? No doubt lobbyists, big donors, military suppliers all would be putting pressure on them…
Disagree. You did nothing wrong
Matt Gaetz says just now that the Heroic 8 has made an offer: the heroic 8 is willing to accept censure, sanction, suspension, removal in order to see Jordan as Speaker.
Video: https://truthsocial.com/@gracechong/111268237651871313
personally i’d rather see shouting, blocking access, fisticuffs, and destruction… but thats just me. if they’re willing to go out, do it while helping the people of the former republic instead of just for optics and tweets.
How stupid.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES MUST THAT HAPPEN. NO MAS!
EXCLUSIVE from “POLICE STATE” the Movie: Shocking Footage of FBI Smashing in Door of NY Senior for Attending J6 Rally – VIDEO
By Jim Hoft
20 Oct 2023
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/exclusive-police-state-movie-shocking-footage-fbi-smashing
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Batallion 101.
Read it about 15-20 years ago. Found it again and reading with more opened eyes.
Oops!
Biden certainly isn’t the PEACE President, is he? Guess he wants to go out with a bang?
Time for the base to switch from Republican to Independent and run conservatives independently. Even 20% of the base would hurt the RNC, Senate and Congressional fundraising immensely. Obviously most of the Republicans are not real Republicans anyway.
These 25 reps. represent the bought and paid for. If the Republican Party wants to ignore its constituents then it is time for the constituents to ignore them. The base has better ways to spend their hard earned money.
Remember, it is all about the money.
they get very little small/indie donations anymore, already. it would not hurt their fundraising.
it would hurt their access to power and the printing press, however.
Guess what his ‘ideology’ is?
District Attorney Jason Williams and his mother carjacked at gunpoint in New Orleans
https://www.wafb.com/2023/10/17/district-attorney-jason-williams-his-mother-carjacked-gunpoint-new-orleans/
Perfect! I love when “Justice” is applied via natural selection!
Wonder why they did not murder him like they have others? New Orleans has fallen. Stay out. It is a jungle.
Thank you for the heads-up. My husband and I were thinking of traveling to New Orleans for our 50th Wedding Anniversary. New Orleans was the site of our honeymoon in 1974. (We returned in 2014 for our 40th anniversary and had a wonderful time).
So…..don’t let the outlaws ruin your anniversary. Go, stay in your room, and do what was so novel and fun in ‘74 !
Good I would like to see it happen to more politicians that support crime.
Taibe bike shop torched after Arab Israeli owner donates bikes to Jews
https://www.timesofisrael.com/taibe-bike-shop-torched-after-arab-israeli-owner-donates-bikes-to-jewish-kids/
Given the heavily orchestrated games I’m watching occur in Congress, my interest is growing in uncovering exactly what/who made a strategic decision to trigger the Humas violence.
oh I think you can say with some certainty…..not the who but the what.
It’s the same group that has created nearly every war and conflict and terrorist act in the world for the past 70 years+. The US Administrative State.
15 years ago, I would not have believed that, but after watching what they did as a coordinated team to ruin Trump’s Presidency and now destroy him completely, there is no more doubt in my mind. People need to start getting their heads around what that all means.
I have said it before and get poo-poo’d by some, but the US Administrative State (4th Branch, Deep-State, whatever), is the single largest anti-american, anti-freedom, anti-constituion terrorist organization in the world and the single biggest threat to all of our freedoms and personal assets. It’s absolutely UFB.
100% agree !!
As pathetic as our government is, I don’t think they started this. They’re aiding and abetting the terrorists in secret while giving lip service to Israel, but I don’t believe they started it. More like, “Never let a crises go to waste.”
I have read reports from Amir Tsarfati that Hamas and other terrorist organizations (ahem, like Iran) were planning a much, MUCH larger attack on Israel. These reports have been verified by captured terrorists and by the vast number of weapons found by IDF in Hamas locations. Apparently, Hamas jumped the gun and decided to start the fireworks early so that they could get all the glory.
Now Israel is super hypervigilant, pinpointing precisely where every rocket comes from, and then destroying that location. In spite of the horrific loss of life, this is something I thank God for.
Reiner Fuellmich, the German lawyer working on Nuremberg 2 has been arrested at the German Embassy, where he was met by 6 of representatives of the Nazi/Marxist/Communist German government and transported back his homeland and is now jailed in Frankfurt.
On what charges?
Unclear at this moment.
The stench of this, on the other hand, is very clear to those who have been following his efforts to prosecute the biggest crime against humanity ever perpetrated.
The forces of evil intend to silence him as they have tried to silence others like Dr Sucharit Bahkdi and others.
Herr Fuellmich must have been getting very close to presenting his mountains of evidence to the International Court. This arrest smells of fear that he was too close….
https://leohohmann.com/2023/10/16/international-lawyer-and-freedom-advocate-reiner-fuellmich-seized-by-german-government-in-mexico/#more-16277
EDIT: He was arrested at the Mexican Embassy in Tijuana. That there were authorities waiting for him says the Stasi had an international warrant out for it. And Mexico obliged.
These globalist courts are really kangaroo courts. Your fine post is backing up what the Serbs found during the US/NATO illegal wars to break up Yugoslavia and expand NATO, while pillaging and plundering. Remember Albright-Stonebridge Corp
The Hague quietly dropped the charges against Slobodan Milosevic after he died in prison.
“The International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague has determined that the late Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic was not responsible for war crimes committed during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.” (They turned a blind eye and sanctioned the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Krajina. We get close to Holocaust events with this one from the links to Jasenovac death camp)
The Exoneration of Milosevic: the ICTY’s Surprise Ruling
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/
There isn’t a court which I believe is not corrupt, Colkitto An international one?
Bought and paid for.
Justice anywhere is now simply an historical relic.
Diogenes is still searching with his lamp…in spirit anyway.
You can send him encouragement, no money.
He was/ is a force for non vaxxed all over the world.
His be old colleagues snitched on him. His passport was” stolen.”
Here:
JVA Rosdorf
Dr. Reiner Füllmich
Am Großen Sieke 8
37124 Rosdorf
Germany.
You can follow him on the telegram account of ICIC international or under his own account Reiner Füllmich.
It’s coming here too. Actually it’s here: J6.
Thank you, Kristin. I watched him interview British funeral director John O’Looney, who was one of the first to alert what he was horrifyingly seeing in bodies post introduction of the biopoison and before. I’d lost track of Herr Fuellmich some time ago. I appreciate the information.
Will he unexpectedly die in transit? Perhaps the Germans can always use the excuse he was “vaccinated and boosted” for unexpected cause of death! Just trying to help out!/s At what point does the increase in dying unexpectedly become publicly associated with the injurious and deadly Covid-19 “vaccine”? Asking for a friend!
I would suggest having more than one vote a day if they want to speed things up. Try snubbing the odd voters and make a slam book to pass around, you know, like high school girls do.
ISIS and Al-Qaeda who they told us did 9/11 and lied as it was CIA-Saudi Arabia-Pakistan who did the mass murder of thousands of our people. Israel just had their 9/11 with a ‘coincidental’ Intell failure.
Biden needed an exit ramp out of his Ukraine disaster and a change in the news media narrative. It’s almost like:
Putin cured Covid-19.
Hamas ended the Ukraine Conflict.
Please take the time to listen to this short speech from Jim Jordan.
He gets it.
Yes, the words are great. But they don’t do it for me anymore from people unless I see both action and effectiveness. My opinion of Jordan has been a roller coaster. He has the skills, words, and raw materials for character because I know what it takes to be a wrestler of his caliber.
It matters to me that Gaetz and Trump support him. But I’m still not sure he isn’t a Trey Gowdy.
Bottom line, however is We the People need to start being effective as a population in taking the reins back from the government that is Constitutionally ours.
Each one of us as an individual, need to strive for maximum effectiveness as an individual and multiply our force by carrying the message and working as communities
Listening to the news, apparently Israel Ukraine have become one word.
By design.