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I’m curious what the percentages up here are of covenantal vs dispensational Christians in what, I’m guessing, is a predominantly Christian audience (apologies in advance to non-Christians who are out there).
There seems to more of latter than the former. I suppose it’s impossible to tell, so it’s hardly worth asking. Just curious is all.
I’m Jewish
Cheers Citizen.
Serbian Orthodox Christian.
I’m Jewish and I’m standing up to be counted
For what?
Does it matter?
Well, it colors one’s belief of God’s plan for Jews in the present.
You mean that he will destroy them? How big is the “Remnant”?
And what plan are you referring to?
How?
And here come The Kings of the East, speaking of Armageddon: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/16/china-says-israels-actions-in-gaza-have-gone-beyond-self-defense.html
Yes, does it matter?
I don’t see it.
1. The originating comment could be construed as to deflect and cause division between various doctrines of Christianity, as it appears has already begun;
2. Personally, I believe that however one gets to God to be saved (through Jesus Christ for us Christians) is what is of paramount importance. Arguments over doctrine has caused more division, arguments & wars between Christians than there needs to be;
3. Scriptures tell us that one can be saved by grace alone and not necessarily by works, so true believers are covered imo regardless of ‘doctrine.’ It also tells us not to judge others. With regards to beliefs, who am I (or we) to judge, ie “does it matter?” as long as we believe and follow the two commandments laid down by the Master. And believe in Him with all of our hearts, minds, soul, and strength. Likewise, the same for our neighbors.
Did He not say that upon those 2 commandments something to the effect that lay the foundations for all the words of the prophets and the law?
My scripture says works are required. That is in the Bible my grandfather had. Why was it changed? It takes faith and works.
I don’t know about ‘your’ scriptures and the Bible your grandfather had.
But the scripture of the KJV that I possess has a few references. Here are two to start with:
Romans 10:9-10
Ephesians 2:8-9
There are others.
Anything else?
Most well know to Catholics, from James, chapter 2.
14
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?i
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If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,
16
and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?j
17
So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18
Indeed someone may say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
Fair poin
. I don’t disagree that works are important.I fully believe in good works (words, deeds, charitable contributions) and I engage with those.
My understanding is that belief in the Savior with one’s whole being and accepting Him as our Savior will grant us the grace of being saved per those verses I referred.
In my view, works alone will not save without faith, but faith through grace will, or at least may.
There are those amongst us in the world who are not capable of performing works (poverty stricken/infirm/without capacity) that believe (have faith). I wouldn’t think the Master would exclude those for not being able to perform works to not be saved, ie grace be sufficient by faith.
John 3:16
I do believe that this originating comment was meant to cause dissension though.
Please see my other comments relating to that in this thread.
Great to hear from you. Hope all is well and you’re feeling better.
God Bless You.
No one is incapable of performing works. Perhaps the greatest of works is prayer. Sacrifice for another, even a stranger. Catholics believe in offering up our sacrifices to our Lord, uniting them to his eternal sacrifice on the cross, a kind of prayer, if you will.
And in that, I will dare to lovingly and humbly offer, we Catholics have one of our most profound advantages. In my firm opinion, the world would be profoundly changed in line more with the will of the Father and the intent of the Son and the guidance of the Spirit, if we all did that. For the good of the world, with untold, unknown advantages to our own souls.
Wherever we are, whatever we have, we can give it to God for his glory, and the salvation of souls. We give, he multiplies.
Faith and works can never be separated.
And God bless you always, also BK!
Thank you.
So true Meagerie.
Luke 21:1-4 tells the story of the widows mite.
A poor widow who gave waht she had, only a few mites.
Eveyone can give something, maybe not evey single day or week or month but there are times when we can give something.
Retired Magistrate here: Works don’t save, grace does through faith in JESUS CHRIST; it is a gift from GOD. However, once a person is saved you want to perform good works, not because you have to, but because you want to.
That’s the way I see it.
Agree. If works alone saved, the reliance on the O.T. Law, specially the Ten Commandments, would have sufficed with no need for the New Covenant, grace given through faith in Jesus Christ.
True Marcia.
Matthew 7:16-20, the Ye Shall Know Them By Their Fruits scripture.
Works include pray and fasting. I think that is the change in my grandfathers bible and a newer Catholic version. They do not include fasting. Somewhere in Matthew.
Yes, James was what came to mind. Faith along is not enough, but to me, Faith has integrated works in it. The Spirit knows the heart.
Good works are fruit of salvation. We are saved to perform good works not because of them.
James is not saying that you can’t be saved if you don’t do good works. The robber at the cross certain didn’t do anything and he was saved.
“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Yes, the thief did do something! He confessed his belief in Jesus and repented. It was a “deathbed” confession. Better late than never!
He confessed and repented because he believed.
My point.
Yes….the Book of James.
Hoo boy, here we go.
One of the oldest in the book.
Have you never heard of the Reformation? Martin Luther?
James 2:22-24 makes a point regarding works and justification as it related to Abraham’s willingness to offer Isaac (cf. James 2:21): “You see that his faith was working with his works, and by his works, his faith was perfected. And the Scripture was fulfilled, saying, “And Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness,” and he was called a friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone.”
The verse quoted from Genesis 15:6 is well before the occasion with Isaac and the altar. Was Abram / Abraham’s personal salvation in question over all the years until that occasion? Let’s see what points Paul sought to establish regarding issues of timing and place related to salvation, faith, and works.
In Romans 4:2-3, Paul appears to disabuse us of the notion that salvation was bestowed as a result of successful keeping and execution of works rather than a gift a God by grace through faith: “For if Abraham was justified by works, he has ground of boasting, but not toward God. For what does the Scripture say? ‘And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.’”
The same verse (originally from Genesis 15:6) was cited in Galatians 3:6, after Paul asked the believers there to consider if God’s work in them and gifts for them were “out of works of the Law, or out of hearing of faith”. Viewing the greater context of Scripture, the usage by James appears to go towards validating the place of good works as it connects to a believer’s faith bearing out in reality.
After Paul points out in Ephesians 2:8-10 that believers were saved “not as a result of works” but by grace through faith, the place is affirmed of “good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them”. Titus 2:11-14 and 3:5-8 additionally appear to serve as an encouragement towards pursuing good works following a reiteration of how believers are saved and are justified.
Scripture shows the place and purpose of works, especially as they follow salvation:
Eph. 2:8-10 “For by grace you are saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.”
First, salvation is clearly shown to be “not as a result of works”. With that established, the place of good works in which believers are to walk is soon after affirmed. Titus 2 and 3 also note the grace of God in terms of salvation, then speak of the usefulness and good purpose of works.
Titus 2:11-14 appears to show a picture of grace, faith, and works in the lives of God’s redeemed people that is in harmony with Romans 3-4 and James 2: believers are redeemed and made zealous for good works.
Titus 3:4-8 seems to continue in that vein: “But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. This is the Spirit He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by His grace, we would become heirs with the hope of eternal life. This saying is trustworthy. And I want you to emphasize these things, so that those who have believed God will take care to devote themselves to good deeds. These things are excellent and profitable for the people.”
Titus 2:11-14 — “For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us that, having renounced ungodliness and worldly passions, we should live self-controlled, just, and godly lives in the present age, awaiting the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Christ Jesus, who gave Himself for us to redeem / liberate (by payment, ransom) us from all lawlessness and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession who are zealous for good works.”
Who “we” / “us” would be in Ephesians 2 and Titus 2 and 3appears to be given further context from Scriptures which appear to point to transformation and transference having occurred regarding these individuals – – evidently related to salvation by grace through faith:
Colossians 1:12-14 — “giving thanks to the Father, the One having qualified you for the share of the inheritance of the saints in light, who has delivered us from the dominion / authority (Gr. exousias) of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.”
Acts 26:18 — “to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those having been sanctified by faith in Me.’”
John 5:24 — (Jesus said:) “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has eternal/everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.”
You are cherry picking.
What’s posted speaks for itself.
Agreed. You just aren’t considering all of it.
Feel free to back up such assertions with something that actually directly addresses what was posted.
Perhaps I can clarify….
Now when one gets to take the final exam upon death and the Judge asks “Why should We admit you to the club?” No one should be saying “Well, I’m mainly depending on Jesus, but I also did a bunch of stuff because I wasn’t sure that what Jesus did was enough.”
Or “Yeah Jesus did a good job but I needed to help Him out myself.”
Or “Jesus plus me equals eternity.”
Yeah, no that would be suicidal.
You’ve twisted everything mentioned in ALL the verses above into quite the pretzel there.
Yes Menagerie.
In Matthew 25 Christ spends quite a bit of tiem telling his followers how and on what they will be judged on.
Christ tells them that the most important thing they will be judged on is how they treat their fellow man, or The Second Greatest Commandment.
To obey this Greatest Commandment takes action and “works” and to give this commandment by Christ you must believe Christ is who He says He is and this takes Faith.
We are given the gift of Christ taking our sins upon Himself freely so we will not have to pay the price ourselves.
Living His commandments as best we imperfect humans can is our works and showing the fruit there of.
Not exactly.
Simply put, when you arrive at the entrance exam, you are not going to justify yourself by saying I did this or that thing (work), or I spoke a kind word, or I regularly did this or that action at my church or I didn’t kill anyone, I gave money, I attended church etc etc. No, instead you are going to throw yourself on the ground in front of Him and beg Him for mercy that He said He would grant based on what He Himself did on your behalf.
But what also hopefully will happen, is He will say, Ok now that I have judged your eternal destiny, here are the things that (capital) I was able to accomplish of My plan by my Spirit working through you. Then you will say, Lord Jesus whatever good I accomplished was entirely because of You, and even in spite of me, I now cast all my (Your) fruit at Your feet in worship.
You are not going to say “Jesus, what You did to save me was great, but it was not enough, here let me help You to save me by giving You this fruit (my works) to put me over the top in meeting Your requirements.”
Still twisted.
Agree. Along with John 3:16
I think it is a particularly interesting question. I don’t see it as a try for division, but illumination. People are going to react that way because they are waiting for something to jump on and fight about, rather than discuss, inform themselves, and hone their beliefs.
The Treehouse was intended to be an idea forum where people could better educate themselves. These are a vocal faction of people here who scream “troll” every time someone isn’t in lockstep with them.
“These are a vocal faction of people here who scream “troll” every time someone isn’t in lockstep with them.”
this x100
I actually meant to say “there are,” thanks for bringing that to my attention. These are sounds like I’m calling out the people above, and that was not my intention in this instance.
i read it the way you meant it, i guess. not “these” people but the general tendency.
still this x100. 😉
I understood what you meant.
I often find there are some very well written counterpoints to the points discussed on this forum. Food for thought!
Matthew 22:36-40 NIV
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
My favorite, though I prefer the KJV.
Of course it does. Without it there cannot be war
Don’t understand what you mean.
Could you elaborate so I can understand the context, please.
I take the comment from ‘Right to reply’ to mean that the Military Industrial Complex (the warmongers) use all these different religious doctrines to pit us all against each other to create constant wars because war is so profitable.. and add to that the depopulation it also brings.
So this is how and why it matters, it all is used to set the table for war.
But I agree with your above statement in that if we all could unite and get on the same page and agree to some basic fundamentals, largely because we all get that they are doing this to divide us– then their plans to keep us all pitted against each other to create chaos and war wouldn’t work.
Don’t think of this as “Religion”, think of this as Strategy.. because they are!
I think this is how we win and remove that power from them- by not taking the bait to not allow their plans to work.
Got it. Just couldn’t make it out with context. Thanks.
If you’re correct on his context, I can agree with that, at least in part, if not mostly.
I do not know these terms.
I do think it is worth knowing your enemy, and understanding what are the mind tools of certain operations (Tsarfati and Hibbs etc) in this context.
That ^^ and standing firm with respect to the bully…..because there are times in life when one is called upon to take a stand and set the bar.
And that is why they split cause divisions in religions. I have read that the Warburgs financed the division in modern Judaism called “Reform”. I have read how British Intell created ‘Wahhabism’ (initially used to break up the Ottoman empire). As a person whose ancestors have been heavily entwined with the Jacobite wars, I am very wary of these splits, who created them, who financed them, and why.
I am also wary of the Catholic Church which St Francis of Assisi saved, and who many Traditional Catholics and others believe has been subverted with Vatican II.
So I have just shown splits within Judaism, Islam, Christianity. I answered you friend NHnative because your opening paragraph is right on target. I have no malice towards any of you with a difference of religion/opinion on this. We should all be united against those who want to destroy all religions to be replaced with theirs, One World Global Luciferianism.
Slainte & peace to you all
Catholicism, indeed, Christianity, has been saved many times by many people. The Holy Spirit has led so many to right the Barque of Peter. And Trad Catholics and their beliefs about Vatican II, that’s a whole ‘nother ball game.
Highly recommend “God’s Fool The Life of St Francis” by Julien Green
No
Any issue over which reasonable Christians can reasonably disagree is of low importance.
Christian
Orthodox Christian
And this matters because…?
Splitter/diverter
If so, was a pretty convoluted or desperate attempt, as I have NO idea WHAT a ‘covenental’ OR ‘dispensasional’ IS, and the comment did NOT stir my curiosity enough to research it, to find out.
Not disputing your conclusion, BK just saying its pretty lame.
More broadly, YES our enemy will exploit EVERY aspect of “Human Nature” to pursue their “by any means necesary” underlieng strategy of “Divide and Conquer”.
If they could, they would have us dividing up, and fighting each other based on what color CAR we drive , for them it DOES NOT MATTER, as DIVISION is their #1 Goal.
And its because the one thing that defeats them,..is UNITY. Other than pre-emptively sewing division, they have NO effective counter to UNITY of the populace.
There ARE signs the tide is turning. New Zealand, Australia, Ecuador, Argentina, and even “gains” in Europe, in Hungary, Poland etc.
Recent developments in Israel are not “going well” for the spinmasters, either. Looking to me like they are stumbling as bad as old Joe, falling UP the stairs of AF1.
The Hamas broadcast pics/videos of their brutality,…University nutjobs cheer, the populace are horrified, and TPTB, apperently wanting to use the pics to push “Bomb Iran” narrative, aren’t getting any traction.
I think maybe its all falling apart for them?
All good.
My intent was to expose that the originating comment was a diversion/deflection to cause dissent within various doctrinal aspects of Christianity that we Treepers have – create internal strife/bickering amongst Christian Treepers, which is evident by reviewing this ever growing thread.
Through that prism, it may not be so lame.
From where I sit, it was an intended action to a purposeful end of dividing Treepers that I was trying to disperse.
It’s too bad that for many religion has and will likely always be a divisive issue.
On a personal level a fellowship of men and women I am grateful to have been guided towards, has no opinion on religion, although it is founding based in large part on Christianity.
Whenever the fellowship gets away from its” Primary Purpose” trouble ensues.
For example a fine lady, and stellar member despises President Trump, and has stated that to me.
The lady was a teacher..and grew up on the CBC propaganda here in Canada.
I tried for a few minutes to have her explain how Obama ( her hero) could own multiple oceanfront estates, and other significant assists without inheriting them, on a Presidents salary.
Her reply was Michelle O. was a best selling author 😂😂
I no longer her view the lady in question quite the same.
God Bless President Trump.
Cheers!
Thank you; my gut instinct said the same and the responses verify that the powers that be are poking around, looking to see if they can find hot button issues to divide the visitors to this last refuge.
I think the responses sho that people have a brain and like to use it.
Yes; however, the responses also show that a vague religious inquiry is also a hot button issue to be exploitable at the right time; just needs a few more vague questions to draw out whom to be targeted by whom by further gauging exactly what buttons to push, at just the right time. It’s how the nudge people work.
I drive a blue car. 😐
I drive a red car.
I drive a Flinstones car.
You win!
Perzactly.
Mine are both White, and formerly commercial trucks,…lol.
Crime scene. Clean up on aisles W and G.
Check your S. Ludlum Protocols.
Israel needs those Hamas tunnels gone, yesterday.
No more Azovstals.
Check the crypts.
Check Poland. They are bragging the leftists are about to take control. How many ballots are in your pocket?
Again, vehemently disagree.
See, e.g.
https://dominion.church/
It’s a network.
Names are funny things, huh?
Step 1) Drive the Gospel out of mainline protestant churches and turn them into social justice alphabet pagan operations. Done.
Like Tucker Carlson, been there, seen it in real time.
Where do the faithful, disconnected, end up?
New, non-denominational churches spring up in the suburbs all around the country. Full of good people, and energy, and 95 percent Biblically correct. But, there are available interpretations to all scriptures.
Twist: at certain times (Ukraine, right now), the pastor can lead his congregation very easily in certain directions and not others.
Look here, not there.
“Dominion” churches.
They just can’t resist peeing on the spot.
Massive, massive, nationwide deployment of nudge operations. The best lies are mostly truth.
The Ukraine “help us we are broadcasting from a Ukrainian bomb shelter ” video was the tell.
We are so damned propogandized.
So many good people, whose desire to seek God has been mas manipulated.
Damn these evil people. I guess it’s true Satan can quote scripture after sll.
We couldn’t even talk bad about Fauci. Because some people were loaded up with them.
Good points.
And that is why I went non-denominational, or better described just Chritian years ago and just do the best I can.
Too much doctrine for me and seemingly distorted interpretations for me.
Bible study, prayers, absolute faith, and fellowship with likeminded individuals is my route.
Although I grew up in a Protestant denomination, the only religious figure I currently have any faith in is a Catholic Cardinal, Vigano.
All the others have disappointed me and continue to do so.
Ditto.
Cardinal Vigano the only one , may the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost and all the Angels protect him.
Been happening since St. Peter hasn’t it? Nothing against Cardinal Vigano, nor am I making a statement about him, but if he lives long enough, he will too.
I hope you will go back upthread and read my response to another poster under your first comment. I had a word there I didn’t realize I used, and it sure changed the tone of my comment.
I don’t think things get better and better until people make it so nice here, Jesus gently comes back.
people never make things better; the Holy Spirit moves in this world to bring to completion God’s plan
Yes, what you say is true, however there is a contingent of new age false “christian” churches that preach and portend that. I know, I have been in them and have heard that preached. (I have left those churches in despair)
Holy Spirit helps our prayers be heard since we are a bunch of idiots.
That is not what the scripture states.
When Christ steps foot on Mount of Olives and splits it in two? That’s gentle?
Zechariah 14:4
I think people are misreading the intent of Joan’s comment. I had to read the statement twice. (Joan, correct me if need be.)
This is what I think she meant to say:
I don’t think that things will get better and better until people make it so nice here that Jesus gently comes back.
He comes back as a lion not a lamb.
He’s going to have His clothes completely splattered with the blood of His enemies. See the end of Revelation. (Not RevelationS by the way)
Normal isn’t coming back. Jesus is.
I don’t sweat the small stuff.
This.
conservative Lutheran
Christian.
Both concepts have validity and useful for understanding. So the issue is when theologian types want to make a name for themselves and say “this is the only way to think”
Ultimate exemplar the Sadducces and Pharisees missing the messiah in their midst.
While performing all their works.
No denomination.
My understanding is, “Old Testament” there was a need for an intersessor, between GOD and Man, and that was those in direct lineage from Moses.
But, with Christ, Jesus coming the first time eliminated the need for any such intersessor.
Hence, while not practicing any specific denomination, I like what I have heard is the Quaker way, with NO “preachers”.
They have churches, they share in their maintenance, but no one directs worship, each communes with God individually.
Once you get humans involved, things devolve.
Good comment! We do need to be gentle but unapologetic about a sincere statement of thoughts or beliefs. If someone is offended that is on them for an inability to Discourse
THAT’S the question that’s on your mind? Glad you could be here. Thank you for contributing. I hope you can learn something from the actual content while you’re here.
Who died and made you moderator of the content today? Arrogance much?
That actually is a very good question. Unfortunately, FS Domino, most people in our generation have hardly any idea what you are asking.
To phrase it another way for a better clarification would be to ask, whose god is the true God. This is when war breaks out. Is it the god of the Muslim? The god of the Jew? Or the God of the Christian? (OK, apologies to all the followers of all the other gods out there. Just focusing on three of the major seekers of god groups.)
I know your question is referring to different beliefs among those of the Christian faith, but the answers come down to subsets of definitions of “THE God of…” that must be understood for one to rightly give an answer to the question, “what percentage [of people] up here, are [of this belief or that]?
Is your god, the God who does as He pleases in the armies of Heaven and among the inhabitants of the Earth? The God who determines all things before the foundation of the world? The God who raises up kings and brings them down? Or the god who sits back and allows evil to go on and triumph of it’s own free will?
Is your god sovereign over all things? Does your god have all power and authority over Heaven and Earth? Or is your god tied down by all power and authority of man or demons?
I’ll agree with part two of your question; yes, unfortunately, there are more of the latter than the former. Were it the other way around, we would not be so far down this road to tyranny as we are. And yes, it is worth asking and getting this answer right, is very important. Thank you.
“Were it the other way around, we would not be so far down this road to tyranny as we are.”
????
You can’t know that. No one can.
To claim that, you are saying that we can/could have averted whatever God has in store for us all and usurping whatever plans He has and what the prophets stated in the Old Testament, the Revelation and the prophetic words of the Master himself; and you are judging others’ heartfelt beliefs – a big no-no according to the Master.
Simple BK, and thanks for raising that point.
2 Corinthians 3:17 says, “Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.”
Whose LORD? Which LORD?
There are big differences among all the world religions and even among those of us on this thread.
OBTW – My apology to Admin for getting in this off-topic discussion.
You started out asking about Christian’s differences in theology. Theology is full of differing opinions.
Perhaps the better questions for you at this point are the ones you just stated – “Whose LORD? Which LORD?”
I’d say that God is knocking at your door. Open it.
I’m confusing posters. I’m getting lost in the trail of this off topic discussion. Sorry.
^This. Be willing to consider a unique question, or don’t. Just because you aren’t interested doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be asked, or that there aren’t others who would benefit from the discussion.
I firmly believe that we must teach our way out of this.
There is a reason that “Education” has been dumbing down our population for decades now- it’s so we are not well enough equipped to navigate the non-stop disasters threw throw at us.
I believe that Sundance is our Teacher- and that he wants eager pupils here to learn- so that we may then Be Andrew Breitbart!
Questions and discussions are good!
*they throw at us.
I’m so glad you’re here making this point. Lately, it seems, there have been some commentators who feel it’s their job to control or squelch conversations….to the point I was sincerely wondering if CTH had new moderators who had not been issued “Brietbart deputy” badge.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6
Right there is why Christians of all types see other religions as false religions. Pretty hard to in any way not accept the direct meaning of that verse.
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IMO, This belongs in open thread
I don’t even understand the question.
Well gee, that’s one of the points of asking a question like this. And it could be said for a lot of people who started out here on the Tree with just the political content, the Trayvon Martin stuff, the Deep State saga.
People start where they are, with what interests them, and they begin a journey where they give and take and learn. We don’t know where it will wind up, but it’s almost always beneficial to them, and to those they encounter along the way.
The Treehouse is and should be a walk in the woods along a new and unfamiliar, and maybe uncomfortable trail. It’s not a regimented march down a well lit avenue led by the authorities and experts.
Thanks for all you do Menagerie! Loads of new trolls recently…think the treehouse is being mentioned more and more on other sites so the trolls are getting snoopy and snively! And nasty at times.
Agree.
That’s why I start my day here.
I’ve been here since 2014. And you know that, I would guess.
Not understanding is not a bad thing.
A place from which to grow.
Faith and works, they will hopefully rule my day.
Love this! Great words for the moment and a wonderful outlook for living!
It probably does belong in the Open Thread.
However, looking at all the responses tells a story. It says despite all of our different backgrounds, we all have so much in common. We all want the same thing.
As NHnative stated above, the different religions are used by “the bad guys” to divide and create war.
What we see here in our little Treehouse is that despite all of the different religions posted in response to this question, we are all very much alike.
Our bond and likemindedness gives us all strength. A strength the “bad guys” can’t overcome.
There is Peace through that strength.
He who is the Alfa and Omega knows your true heart.
There are many rooms in God’s mansion’
Even the dogs get the fallen scraps from the table.
Y’all have a blessed day!!
MM,
As you bring this up, notice something else.
Our enemy is all about sewing division, left vs right, D vs R, Christian vs Jew, Old vs Young, Male vs Female vs ?, Black vs White vs Hispanic vs Asian, etc. as if these differences are SO important, and fundamental.
And yet, UNLESS a commenter clearly indicates it from their screen name, or spelks it our in their comments, I CHALLENGE you to say WHAT; Gender, Orientation, Age, Religion, etc. ANY commenter is; you CAN’T.
IF these various demographic differences were so foundational to our World view, you would THINK it would be easy for a reader of frequent posters comments, to be able to say with certainty that “Regitiger (or BK, Dutchman, whoever) is Black, White, Hispanic, Christian, Jew, Male, Female, young or old.
That you can’t, shows just how irrelevent these demographic differences ARE, to forming our world view.
Just something i have noticed, from reading and posting comments here.
Exactly
No, it actually doesn’t.
There is something critical here to understanding the 666,000 foot level of the military political actions in the world today.
Both from a historical perspective, and what the future may portent.
It’s an exciting time to be alive!!
Neither. I’m Catholic.
Both views have points, but are fundamentally flawed.
FSD, “curiosity” is what killed the cat!
:-3
That did not work, it was suppose to be a cat icon.
I saw it and knew what you intended.
And lack of it in humans breeds insufferable ignorance.
I really feel this question is meant to help collect AI information to help destroy our blog. Sorry but I am skeptical.
Hey Mister AI: I’m happy to inform you that the Messiah is Jesus and He’ll be back (soon?) to delete all your bits and bytes.
American Catholic if that is the poll you are taking. I had to look up “ covenantal vs dispensational” and am still not sure the difference of belief in a nutshell. Not a scholar here but if means getting to heaven based on faith vs faith and works then I catch myself subconsciously flipping between the two. Any links for a better understanding?
Interstellar Church of Cosmic Vibrations. 😎
If you mean do I think the church is now Israel, no I don’t. Israel and the church are two different things. See Romans 11.
This is probably what he is referring to. Covenant Christians have a lot of misconceptions about dispensational Christians. In reality there are a lot of smart and stupid people in both camps. Just like everything else. Don’t make assumptions about what kind of person he is because of your bias.
Can we all just agree that Judeo-Christian societies and governments are superior to Muslim? (We might as well cut to the chase here.)
In some respects lumping Judeo with Christianity is valid, in others not so much.
Recovering catholic. Christian now.
Good grief. I am sad you are so misled.
I was raised and educated in the Catholic Church/School in the deep South. Could not help but notice that your understanding of the teachings of Catholic faith/doctrine are far superior to what I was taught. In other words I missed out and am saddened by this. It is baffling why Parishes especially North verses South can be so different in their adherence to and understanding of Catholicism. Maybe that is why Bob and myself have become so cynical about the church when we should be cynical of certain people and not Catholicism. Hope this was taken as meant….admiration.
I’m curious as how you think this relates to presidential politics. It has certainly derailed the forum today. Just a comment, I’m not a moderator.
It has certainly derailed the forum today.
I suspect that was part of the plan.
This isn’t theology class–it’s day 1000 of this mess and how can we get out of it
Explain to me exactly how one completely and cleanly separate politics and religion. Yes, at first glance, it is off topic, but given what’s happening in the world, IMO, it all starts exactly with religion.
As an admin, I allow and appreciate quite a bit of variation on the Presidential OT because the daily open is more of a hangout and friendly exchange place. Here there is more interest, and more people, to participate in a lively discussion of ideas.
And as an admin, I look sideways at the accusation of trolling because, again, lots of people use it instead of just saying “Shut up! I don’t want to think.”
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
Proverbs 29:2
One cannot have any discussion of Israel or Jews without belief systems being a part of it.
God called Jerusalem (a synecdoche for all of Israel) a “Rock of Stumbling” for the Nations, and so here we are today.
No disrespect to you or anyone else, but I’m curious why this is in the presidential thread rather than the religious thread? Seems like you would get more answers and possibly more and/or better discussion there, seeing as how not all Treepers are religious but the ones that post in the religious thread are presumed to be so.
For myself, I am privately spiritual but most definitely not religious.
The puppet masters seek to divide.
They want us divided by religion.
They want us divided by race.
They want us divided by gender.
Divided, we are weak.
United, we are strong.
While the intricacies of differences in Christian doctrines are a rich and fruitful field worth exploring in depth, for today’s purposes, it would be very useful to explore the ways in which modern hybrid warfare is being used to produce not only color revolutions, but also supports or divisions in religious people for larger goals of control and sheep herding.
FWIW, IMHO, there is almost certainly a sealed indictment against one Jack Hibbs for FARA violations.
“Who do you trust the most?
Prey.
Pray.”
President Trump has a clear view into this situation. It relates to the Bibi outing/ousting timing.
Your one I would add to my idea of having a few of us set up a pw protected article here. that is if we could ever get it off the ground. it might be a pipedream. Anyways appreciate your posts mate
Not an idea I’d ever get behind. Count me so out on that one.
Sorry Menagerie, it was an idea that was discussed.
Agreed.
In the opening chapters of the book the Name of the Wind, the lead character has a sight path on an appearance by certain entities. Certain things are kind of like that, perhaps.
But, I’m also sure the relevant information is already known to those with a need to know.
I am pretty certain this info is not known to you friend. And I know you are well read and informed. I wanted to discuss this with a few of you here before a general release. Perhaps we can have a past article we can drop back to?
It’s all in there (the Bible).
We don’t have a religious thread. See my comment above.
As far as I know, there is no “religious thread” per se, there IS an “open topic” where anything can be posted, as well as “prayer requests” recipes, etc.
Trying to seperate “religious” from ” political” is like those argueing “We Conservatives should refuse to engage in “culture war” topics,..”
You can NOT seperate, as our political enemies are attacking us on the Spiritual plane, as well.
Wouldn’t this be better posted on the “open thread” rather than the presidential politics thread?
I understand this is an interesting question and that some readers would want to explore it.
However, my position is that as a country we are in a crisis and we need to focus on what to do to save ourselves. We also need to play the long game. Focusing on immediate needs doesn’t preclude the possibility of focusing on other needs later on.
I base my thinking on the fact that as adults we must make choices and we often must settle for less than we need or want. For example, we must earn a living, but perhaps we are less than happy with our current job. So we keep finding ways to improve our situation, but meanwhile we focus on the job that pays the bills.
The same idea is true with this election. If we don’t elect President Trump we will be in serious trouble. Even if we do, we will face many challenges. But to have a chance to elect him we must focus on achieving that goal.
That means we must unify. The only Arsenal we have is our numbers. If we split ourselves, the enemy will win.
How does this relate to your question? I think the question opens the door for focusing on differences. It also has a flavor of people having a discussion in which they have all the time in the world to focus on issues that don’t serve our immediate need to survive the crisis we are in.
In my opinion, a more useful question would have to do with exploring why certain groups didn’t vote in the last election and what we can do to reach them for 2024.
I am not saying your question isn’t of interest. What I am saying is right now — just like the need to have a job — our need is to win the election. After that would be a better time for your discussion.
I am pleading with everyone who disagrees with what I’m saying to consider times have changed. Our country and the world have changed. If we have any hope of our civilization surviving, we must do all we can to unify and focus on the election and supporting our leader.
No matter how hard we fight, we’ve already lost a lot of what we had. It may be difficult to get much of what we want. But a focused fight to achieve what we can is our best hope.
Turn your attention to consider how to support unity and how to focus on our immediate need, which is the election.
Jesus Freak.
Biden Administration’s Unfathomable Stupidity
THATS a good one!
Ideology Prisoners
The Idiot Administration
The Genesis is rejection of God’s revealed truth for shifting sands of humanism.
” I did it my way”
I did not realize this until our visit to the Holocaust Museum recently.
History rhymes.
Last sentence is key!
Toupee?
Rumored to be.
Quite a helmet like appearance.
Reminds me Joni Ernst hair.
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The 45th President of the United States Donald J. Trump is expected to address supporters at two locations in Iowa on October 16th, 2023.
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Ep. 182: Israel at War; Trump Ineligible for Ballot? Malone Lawsuit Dismissed!AND MORE!
By vivafrei
15 Oct 2023
https://rumble.com/v3pg1hn-ep.-182-israel-at-war-trump-ineligible-for-ballot-malone-lawsuit-dismisseda.html
Israel at war.
Suit to remove Trump from ballot.
Malone can’t sue for defamation.
Biden financed terrorism?
AND MORE!
One of the topics Barnes discusses:
America First Legal Whitepaper: The President of the United States Has Absolute Authority Over His Presidential Papers, Undermining An Essential Element of the Biden DOJ’s Mar-a-Lago Prosecution
By America First Legal (Stephen Miller’s firm)
10 Oct 2023
https://aflegal.org/america-first-legal-whitepaper-the-president-of-the-united-states-has-absolute-authority-over-his-presidential-papers-undermining-an-essential-element-of-the-biden-dojs-mar-a-lago-prosecuti
File this under: Voting Theater, “I voted” sticker, 2020
The “I voted” stickers that they handed out at the voting locations, gave citizens a false sense of security about the election. You just thought you voted in AZ, GA, etc. when in reality, you were just an unsuspecting pawn in the “voting theater” put on by the democrats / GOPe criminal gangs that ran the vote rigging scam in many locals.
It is said that the treasonous, candidate pols paid the gangs a “winner’s fee” based on the size of “win margin” the gang would deliver. This was always popular with those candidates who were afraid of meeting their constituents to ask them for their votes, aka DeXX.
Get to know the actors in your local Voting Theater
……volunteer to work the primaries and become a precinct chairman
…………keep your eyes and ears open
………………if there is cheating in your community, some local election people are in on it … they talk about it.
…………………… it takes local, patriotic citizens to expose them just like parents are doing at the school boards.
…………………………MAGA’s field of operation is in the state/local entities.
………………………………Do your part. Thanks.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
As long as we are voting on those rigged computers, people do not matter.
Check to see if your county has an Absentee Ballot Board and if it does get on it.
That is where the counting is done, and at least in Minnesota, that is where the final tally takes place.
Our county was, according to Minnesota law, always supposed to have an Absentee Ballot Board made up of an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. It wasn’t until 2020 that the county administrators were called out for not following the law, and then it took a lawsuit against the county to get them to follow the law.
Have no idea if the results had to do with how the law is now being followed or not, but for the first time in many years not just one, but two Republicans were elected in our area in the last election.
Absentee Ballot Board. Get on it. Check out your state’s laws about it. Make sure you have a fair representation of people on that board.
There are 100 interlocking ways that they cheat, to steal elections.
Machines is only one small part of the problem, and frankly not the biggest.
In Maracopa County, in 2022 they COULD NOT have stolen the election IF they had followed the election laws, even WITH the use of the machines.
They HAD to blatantly violate numerous election laws, regarding chain of custody REQUIREMENTS, proper conducting of Logic/Accuracy tests, etc.
Point being, get rid of machines, go to single day,, paper ballots, hand counting and they can still cheat, if they break the laws.
Remember Kennedy/Nixon, 1960?
They had no machines, and single day voting, and they STOLE it!
Today is 16 October 2023. The Whores for the DNC aka “Republicans” have been in control of the House going on ten months. Imagine a political Party so corrupt, so lacking in any moral foundation, that they would even consider sharing power with Demonic Pedo Democrats. But here they are.
But, alas, they have been sharing it since they “took over” the House.
Because they are Demonic Pedo RINOS. Same species but “ours” pretend to be Conservative Republicans to get elected . This will be a horrific turning point if they get Hakeem Jeffries (muslim) elected at this time in history. My guess is they are confident they have gotten enough of them in the country to now become very vocal, militant and eventually violent.
They’re not in control and have always been giving Democrats power. We just can all see it now.
Nothing says “I’m actually a Democrat, sucker” better than working with Democrats to elect a Democrat speaker.
They lack legitimacy and their fraud is now on full display.
It’s refreshing that more and more people realize they don’t have to believe the lie any more. It’s why these Democrat-Republicans are so angry.
No, basic premise is flawed.
The same entities were in Control of the House, before and after the election, it hasn’t been “the Peoples House” for a LONG time.
4 individuals control CONgress; the Majority and Minority leaders for both parties, both Houses.
All of the rest 531, are just proxies for those 4, and with the 4, the individual occupying the position, does not matter.
Substitute Thune for McConnell, or JJ (or whoever) for McCarthy, or retire Chuck or Nanzi, they are replaced but the machine grinds on.
It is not the party, it is the 50% Uniparty portion of the party, which must be replaced.
1000 days, doesn’t feel a day less than 1000 years.
I was just thinking that when I read your post! It’s been the most difficult, miserable, godless, pagan 1000 days of my 75 years in this once great country! God help us!!! Hosanna!!!
TGP posted a story last week about a J6 prisoner who had just reached 1000 days in jail (about 16 jails, actually), with 600 of those days in 23-hour solitary, and two months of it in “the hole” in the DC Gulag cellar.
He’s at around 1012 days now. Without a trial.
I looked last night and couldn’t find the story, since TGP posts like 50 times a day.
His thousand days were worse than any of ours, and he’s still spiritually alive, defiant, hopeful, and not complaining.
Having “been there, done that” a few truths, based on my experience “doing time”.
All with experience agree, the absolute WORST is “Jail” typically where they incarcerate you, pending trial.
State PRISON, is much better, relatively and Federal even “better”.
SOME people DO go a little crazy from being “on ice” i.e. solitary.
Those who “on the outs” can’t stand to be alone.
For my part, and given the nature of the “gen. population” I didn’t mind being in “isolation” at ALL, and would have done my whole stint behind bars in solitary, if I could have.
America in Danger: Hamas and Hezbollah Sleeper Cells Are Here
https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/america-danger-hamas-and-hezbollah-sleeper-cells-are-here
Bring it on Locked and Loaded.
?w=700&h=644
The US gubmint is paying people to illegally cross our border.
$2200 Dollar debit cards that reload every month, just for being illegal aliens.
Crime pays pretty well in the US.
If everything in today’s woke world is explained by oppressed/oppressor, I’m pretty sure we are the oppressed.
By those pretending to be oppressed.
Because the world is under the curse of sin.
Too true. Just as things start to unravel . . . Look! Another BIG squirrel!
Sunday PM Update from Israel – When Will the Invasion Come?
WAR CRIMES COMMITTED by Hamas while the lefites in the West accuse Israel of war crimesAnd executed without pity while wounded
Executed without pity: Shocking moment wounded female Israeli soldiers cowering under a table after being injured by a grenade are shot dead by Hamas gunmen
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12635283/Executed-without-pity-Shocking-moment-wounded-female-Israeli-soldiers-cowering-table-injured-grenade-shot-dead-Hamas-gunmen.html
LINK:
Israeli Army: At Least 199 Kidnapped by Hamas, 291 Soldiers Killed
“War Crimes” doesn’t apply to extremist terrorism, whereby there are no “rules”. Civilians are explicitly targeted, and the goal is to maximize the carnage… that’s why it’s called terrorism.
“Beslan: Three Days in September”
.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/beslan-school-siege-three-days-in-september
Is he alive?
Almost certainly not.
And that is a very comforting thought.
Here’s a red pill for you! And you!! And you!!
Another of truth in this writing.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/10/its_the_border_stupid.html
Good reasoning in that article.
The MSM is much better at lying to us than Hamas and its supporters
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/10/16/we-rely-on-the-ap-for-news-the-ap-relies-on-terrorist-sympathizers-to-collect-it-n584831
1,000 days of survival mode. I am thankful we are still standing,
Yeah a deal with the devil sounds about right.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/vanguard-funds-invest-in-chinese-military-companies-report-says-5509451?
I like this article:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/10/i_am_all_for_calling_joes_policies_bidenomics.html
We need to assign responsibility where it belongs.
We obviously don’t send our best to DC. https://x.com/MorningsMaria/status/1713877447253631270?s=20
1000 Days!
death by a thousand cuts
So Sad
No 1000 Days to prep.
Saving Israel for last.
Time’s up.
Championship rounds, per President Trump’s Truth Social post. 13, 14, and 15.
I feel a George Soros demise coming on.
Historical Maps of Israel and Palestine Areas since 1947
How a single picture can speak a thousand leftist propaganda words! JMO
And strangely enough the period between 1967 and 2005 is missing.
Right – And where are the 3,000 years before that?
Bada BING!!!!!
And oddly the ME was once muslim free and yet they took it all over via murder, torture, rape. And now do the same in Africa.
Also, Palestine was Israel – the name just changed.
Do you support returning all of sub-Sahara Africa to non-muslims, Lebanon, Constantinople, Pakistan, Albania, Egypt, etc.? If not why?
Egypt was Muslim-free. Roman and Greek Christians ruled there.
Yes, it would be interesting to see a series of maps showing the expansion via conquest, terror, horror, and torture of Islam.
In perspective, this Israel map series is barely a drop in the bucket, and didn’t even feature any beheading, forced marriage conversations, janissaries, or full-body skinnings. In contrast it featured hospitals, industry, agriculture, and the literal greening of the area. This tiny sliver of land was retaken, and flourished.
The breaking of the Christian-Hezbollah alliance in secular Lebanon is of great interest. It changes the dynamics of the 7 nation hitlist that General Clark revealed that would lead back to the Kagan/Nuland band of war criminals which has also helped push Muslim invaders to Christian Europe to create a social cataclysm leading to their planned WWIII and the destruction of all religions/nations/cultures/societies/states except their one world global Luciferianism. I’m watching it unfold what I read about decades ago. It’s rather startling to put it mildly
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Jews founded the city of Medina.
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And was a early conquest/ influencer of Islam
What does the area look like before 1920.
What does it look like in 0001?
What a bunch BS! Your problem is you don’t look far enough back in history. GOD gave the land to Israel a long time before 1947!
And he gave it to the Ottomans and the Brits too. I saw the deed.
Read old testiment Joshua 13
Here’s a link that goes way back in time and is a more complete picture.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/rabbi-michael-barclay/2023/10/14/there-is-no-such-thing-as-palestinians-n1735136
Excellent article.
Very good article and overview of the history of this area back 4000 years ago with small tribes living in Canaan, such as Moabites, Amalekites, etc.
There are two important article points to be understood and could be key in diplomatic solutions (if that is possible,) to the Palestine-Israel dichotomy:
1)“The British created a mandate called “Palestine” on July 24, 1922, which was the first mention of the word in thousands of years.”
Note that the word “Palestine” originated in Roman times as a variant of the word “Philistines.”
2)“In 1948, U.N. Resolution 181 granted statehood to two states: a Jewish one called Israel and an Arab one called Palestine. This is the first time there is a nation or people with the name of Palestine, even though they were in fact all Jordanians.”
The Arabs didn’t accept either State, opposed them both, while the Jews accepted Israel! So the state of “Palestine” never existed and today only exists on paper in a 1948 UN Resolution!
it is a beautiful thing to see God’s plans working. for His glory and our good.
There is no Palestine.
Never was.
Beautiful. It shows how much progress we have made in my lifetime.
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“Palestinians” never were a nation and never had any land. And, moreover, the entire map depicts land in the British protectorate that originally was designated for the Zionists, after much much more of the protectorate was given for the establishment of Jordan.
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Not to be too far off track , can we see a map of the United States starting with little pin pricks for Plymouth Rock and Jamestown and through the years or Canada starting with Quebec? – Random thought
This is a great article to try and teach us what we need to do to starve this beast!
“James Madison: Four Steps To Stop Federal Programs”
https://granitegrok.com/mg_manchester/2023/10/james-madison-four-steps-to-stop-federal-programs
The best part of this article for me what learning the word “Disquietude” [of the people].
“Make Disquietude Great Again” are the seeds I plan on sowing.
I don’t post frequently but have been reading this board regularly since 2020.
Recently, I am noticing more posts from folks whose names I don’t recognize. Some of these new posters express viewpoints that are unusual for CTH or seem designed to be provocative.
Anybody else noticing this or am I being paranoid?
This happened during the 2016 election too. It will get worse.
Yep it is going to get worst. We need a way to flag AI and fake posters. Stand ready. \(°ロ\)
I agree with you. I have taken a step away from CTH commenting system because my spider senses tell me that there are bad/icky actors on this message board. I may be wrong but I have a feeling in my gut.
gosh!! i relish reading the comments on this wonderful site. many many good references and referrals. and at my age, “icky” is really very obvious; no need to fear.
Do not ever refrain from posting because of that my friend. Cheers
Because then they have succeeded in silencing your dissent!
it’s not you.
No worries.
It always happens when something is happening in the world that makes people like Soros pay people to post for propaganda reasons.
BarbS,
Been here since 2016, and you are paranoid, but that doesn’t mean everyone isn’t out to get you.
CTH is the MOST viewed “blog” on the web, AND the center of the “rebel alliance” of “MAGA media” hence is targeted by influencers, which constantly hammer away at the comments section.
For awhile, it seemed to ebb and flo, based on current events,..but for some time now it has been pretty much constant.
Often they work in pairs, and with time and practice you can get pretty good at recognising them.
Its the price we pay, for having an “open” comments section, and “You know you are over the target, when the flac is thickest”.
I agree wholeheartedly as I have had many troll enemies over the years, especially during the information battles during the illegal wars against our old allies and friends the Serbs and the war crimes perpetrated by the US/NATO and their WWII Nazi allies/muslim terrorists/crime cartel allies.
My local talk radio hosts are regular readers of the Treehouse. I tell anyone that I meet that is ready for some redpilling to come here.
Slainte dutch
not to stir the pot, but… this post is, itself, extremely similar to others posted every few days…. someone who hasn’t been here in awhile says they don’t recognize names and infers everyone else is possibly a troll….
but my personal fave is still being called MI6. can’t get any trollier than that, mates!
Should we newbies stop posting?
Boy Soldiers: Hamas resorts to ‘training children to defend Gaza’ as thousands of Israeli troops mass at the border and prepare for brutal assault
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12634107/Hamas-resorts-training-children-defend-Gaza-Israeli-troops-mass-border.html
During the Iran -Iraq war Ayatollah Khomeini sent probably >100 000 young Iranian boys across minefields laid by Iraq. They would be “martyred”
Government-allied groups were known to recruit children during the Iran-Iraq war. The Hezbollahi organization for example made announcements in various newspapers inviting registration with the sole entry requirement being a “belief in God” and sympathy for the Hezbollahi. Age was “unimportant”: according to the advertisement, students could range from 14 to 90 years of age.
The leadership of Iran also urged youths to take an active part in fighting.In a series of rulings issued in the autumn of 1982, Ayatollah Khomeini declared that parental permission was unnecessary for those going to the front, that volunteering for military duty was a religious obligation, and that serving in the armed forces took priority over all other forms of work or study. Various sources reported that children were indoctrinated into participating in combat.
They were given “keys to paradise” and promised that they would go directly to heaven if they died as martyrs against the Iraqi enemy.
No estimates are available on the number of children who participated in the Iran-Iraq war, but Hojjatoleslam Hashemi Rafsanjani, later president, stated in 1982 that Iran’s armed forces had been supplemented by 400,000 volunteers
https://www.refworld.org/docid/498805f02d.html
Wa Poop also reported on it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1988/01/18/children-khomeinis-cannon-fodder/8b7673b3-c701-484c-955c-0bd4c3ea1d70/
Connecting dots?
NOT “activists.” Terrorists: “someone who uses violent action, or threats of violent action, for political purposes:
The activists sabotaging railways in solidarity with Indigenous people
People coming to the aid of the Wet’suwet’en nation to stop a pipeline are using direct action that is prompting terror charges
29 Jul *2021*
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/29/activists-sabotaging-railways-indigenous-people
I wonder if the following was done in sympathy with Middle Eastern terrorists. I-25 is the main north/south artery in Colorado. I added the most suspicious part missing from the title:
Train derails [ON A BRIDGE OVER I-25] north of Pueblo, killing truck driver and closing I-25
Interstate closed in both directions between exits 104 and 106, and state patrol says the closure will likely last into Monday
15 Oct 2023
https://www.denverpost.com/2023/10/15/i-25-closed-pueblo-train-derailment/
Merely a coincidink, I’m sure:
Biden postpones trip to [Pueblo] Colorado as Israel-Hamas conflict intensifies
President Joe Biden has postponed a trip to Colorado to stay in Washington and focus on the growing conflict in the Middle East
October 16, 2023
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/biden-picks-boebert-foil-economic-message-colorado-104004507
Biden had been heading to the district of Rep. Lauren Boebert, where he was to visit CS Wind, the world’s largest facility for wind tower manufacturing. But the White House said just a few hours before Biden was set to take off for the trip that it would be rescheduled.
Instead, Biden is expected to hold a series of high-level meetings with aides on Israel and the growing humanitarian concerns in Gaza.
It’s rare for presidential travel, which is meticulously planned for security and logistical purposes, to be called off at the last minute.
don’t be surprised if “emergencies” start happening in the districts of diehard patriotic holdouts in the House to try and force their hand to elect a speaker who will re-start the printing press.
“Terrorist” or “Freedom Fighter”,…has long been one of those “point of view” things.
King George accuse the Founders of Terrorism,…WERE they?
Sorry for jumping in , but I’ll just ask – can you supply a quote from King George where he used the word “Terrorism “ ? ( just an opinion but don’t think you see the word “terrorism “ in the English lexicon till a later date , but just guessing ?)
Ramaswamy/obama:
Wow that is really revealing! If you had doubts that Vivek was a plant you won’t anymore. This reminds me of Deval Patrick giving the “Just words” speech almost identical the one the Lightbringer gave later. its what red pilled me- a side by side just like this one
That’s not who we are.
Absolute scam artist, playing the melanin card and cribbing off the Taupe Dope.
Vulture entrepreneur as well.
Not a fan of these Hindu “People of Color” grifters. Their kin are pulling a major looting of South Africa atm. So what the brave Boers built the Hindu’s are robbing and destroying. All in the cause of virtue signaling. It was once much like Baltimore in the 50’s.
ICYMI:
ALL 31 ESPIONAGE ACT COUNTS MUST BE DISMISSED AS A MATTER OF LAW – REGARDLESS OF DECLASSIFICATION
The Trump Indictment Is DOA.
By Leo Donofrio, Esq.
23 Jun 2023
https://leodonofrio.substack.com/p/all-31-espionage-act-counts-must
PRA Grants Former Presidents Access, Control, Physical Possession & (apparently) Declassification Authority Over Their Presidential Records
§2204(b): The Trump Indictment Antidote
By Leo Donofrio, Esq.
2 Jul 2023
https://leodonofrio.substack.com/p/pra-grants-former-presidents-access
Good Truth comments from PDJT today ( sorry not a capable reposter ) He hits the CBS 60 Minute Biden so- called “interview” on all squares – as pathetic “ they led him along like a lost child” -“Each question contained the answer “ (ha, the Exact point Sundance made on his thread )
‘Human Shields, Electric Shocks, and Executions: Israeli president reveals Hamas handbook for torturing, murdering captives’
In the booklet, entitled ‘The Warrior’s Guide – Jihad Version’, recovered from a Hamas terrorist who was killed during the invasion last week, terrorists are advised in detail on how to take Israeli civilians and soldiers captive, how to torture them, and how to execute them. “There is no justification. It is simply an ISIS type ideology that wants to eliminate us off the ground, and therefore they need to be eliminated off the ground.”
https://www.newsrael.com/posts/scpjrek7mq
I find it funny that a torturing, murdering, rapist would take a how to book on his crime spree.
Pause to check the next step in the how to book.
Or maybe have a confederate read it aloud as you proceed to follow instructions.
Kind of like a Monty Python skit.
Horrible things. Here is the question. How did they research the book? And did they train and rehearse before their crime spree operation?
It’s like porn. They get off on reading it and imagining doing it.
But pulling out the porn to see what you should do next when you get a chance to fulfill your dreams?
It is simply an ISLAMIC ideology
McCarthy, Israel, & Afghanistan: The Failure of American Leadership
TOM RENZ
OCT 15, 2023
The Israeli Tragedy: Why is Biden Supporting Nazis and Anti-Semites Around the World?
∙https://tomrenz.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web&r=fdolb
Site Question- is there any way that I can pay a subscription fee to CTH so as not to get the ads?
I have subscribed to some of my favorite political sites to go ad free and it is a pleasure to be able to read without all the advertising.
I’m sure many of us would be glad to pay a monthly or yearly fee for the convenience of reading Sundance’s essays and the comments without being constantly distracted.
On my desktop or laptop I see zero adds with Adblocker +. I don’t use my phone cause the words are too small
I installed the App called AdBlocker Plus and it took care of ALL of it.👍🏻👍🏻
Same here but I do get annoying stuff on my phone.
Send Sudanese all ur money and we will tell u how
Use Brave browser
My uBlock works really well. I’ve never had ANY ads on CTH.
Right now my uBlock says that it has blocked 224 ads since I came to this thread.
I can imagine how annoying all those ads would be.
Thanks for all the suggestions! I would rather use a subscription than an ad blocker so that SD still gets the money.
I did a Paypal autopay for CTH, my first expenditure every month.
Another great idea from Bill Gates.
Chop down all the trees and bury them to fight globull warming.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/climate-activists-seek-to-save-the-planet-by-cutting-burying-trees-2-post-5499439
As insane as blocking the sun or injecting CO2 into the ground.
All life-destroying measures.
Humanity must continue to recarbonize the atmosphere or all life will perish in a geologic heartbeat.
Hey, wait a minute. What happened to “Save The Rainforest!”
Ryan Long is a comedic treasure.
File under ‘No one cares’🤷🏾♀️
9,000 killed in Sudan hostilities – UN
The armed conflict in Sudan between the military and rival paramilitary groups has killed up to 9,000 people and forced over 5.6 million others to flee their homes in the past six months, the UN said on Sunday.
Last month, the UN and the World Health Organization said that repeated attacks on hospitals and medical teams in Sudan had worsened disease outbreaks and fatalities.
They claimed that between mid-May and September, more than 1,200 children under the age of five died in refugee camps in Sudan’s White Nile state as a result of a lethal combination of a suspected measles outbreak and severe malnutrition. Health facilities have been overwhelmed due to a lack of staff, life-saving medicines, and critical equipment, the UN and WHO added.
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Muslim Africans. Like rival gangs fighting with each other for power and making misery on the population since Sudan independence. It’s what they do. Plenty of countries have sent special forces in to try to stop it and have suffered casualties.
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The terrible news is in, and not one mention can I find on any site…this from a tweet..
“The election results are in. Sadly, it looks like a globalist coalition has won in POLAND.
Under current leadership, Poland has :
-One of the lowest unemployment %
-One of the highest GDP rates
-0 Jihadi terror attacks
-0 illegal immigrants
-Christian culture
-Strong identity
Once the EU puppets take power, you can kiss all that goodbye.”
Donald Tusk is the name of the man who will bring misery to our Polish friends. He is the pet of Nuland, Power & Co, Inc., Colour Revolution Conglomerate.
Poland will now be forced to take its “fair share” of “culture enrichers”. Tusk will make sure that happens.
For those who voted for Tusk, your world is about to change in ways which will give poignant meaning to the phrase “the good old days”. Just ask Americans about that…
There couldn’t be more unwelcome news for the Polish people.
Another bastion falls.
Terrible news indeed.
The Poles have
“ Done it Once “
it’s NOW Time for them to Purge Themselves AGAIN
Really, “Betsy”? Source, please?
https://apnews.com/article/poland-government-admit-muslim-migrants-c4aa78f8e150737e40e9644183aafee3
Poland’s main opposition leader accused the conservative government on Thursday of hypocrisy for allegedly admitting large numbers of foreign workers despite its anti-migrant rhetoric and a new border wall. Donald Tusk, a former prime minister and former top European Union official, said the government’s actions were in stark contrast with its official policy declarations.
Tusk, leader of the opposition Civic Coalition, and Polish media allege that the government admitted about 130,000 Muslim migrants last year despite its anti-migrant statements, aimed chiefly at non-Christians. They say the government is working to relax restrictions and allege that corruption and pressure from international work agencies are involved.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/27/anti-migrant-rhetoric-dominates-politics-in-poland-ahead-of-october-vote
Former European Council President Donald Tusk, leader of the centrist opposition Civic Coalition, slammed the current government in July for involvement in an EU migration plan that he says would “allow even more people to come from countries like Saudi Arabia, India, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Nigeria and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan”.
In a series of social media videos posted in July in connection with unrest in France triggered by the police killing of a 17-year-old teenager of Algerian and Moroccan descent during a traffic stop, Tusk concludes: “Poles must regain control over this country and its borders.”
While I appreciate any information that may seem to be contrary to what I posted and a civil discussion after, I do not appreciate the tone of your opening statements
Quotation marks around my name….really??
I don’t respond well to snark. And I’ll have to leave it at that…
…except to remind you of other recent European countries’ elections…
Politicians wishing to get elected say lots of things, promise lots of things…only to renege after.
Consider Meloni in Italy. She also promised to end illegal immigration. She was plausible. She has backtracked, and illegals continue to arrive by the thousands.
The proof of Tusk’s pudding has yet to be tested.
I read reports that it was biggest voter turn out since 1989.
..Duda was having a bro-mance with Zelensky up until couple months ago.
Then the grain deal restrictions seemed to have changed everything. Duda refused to let grain into country going against EU/NATO. He refused in order to protect Polish farmers. Things got ugly. Zelensky threatened to sue Poland. Stompy foot whining to EU/NATO.
Then it got even worse… Poland accused Zelensky of ingratitude….drowning man analogy. Poland drew up bill saying Ukraine owed them 24 Billion for Military and humanitarian aid.
A lot of discussion if it was all a ploy because of election.
Increased lack of support of the Ukraine conflict, the number of refugees coming in and money going to Ukraine instead of going to Poland….people were having protests.
The Zelensky curse seems to have struck again.
I agree with you.
With Tusk …..
It may be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire.
Yes….
Of interest?
https://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/the-mission-of-donald-tusk-anchoring-poland-in-the-eu/
“The UN has blood on its hands: Denying Israel’s right of self-defense must stop“
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-un-has-blood-on-its-hands-denying-israels-right-of-self-defense-must-stop/
This is an excellent timeline of the UN response to the Hamas attack. The UN of course blames Israel for the attack.
And we know this is really how FJB, Barry, and company really feel as well.
Secret Soviet files reveal horror crimes of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators
Nationalists began ethnic cleansing of Jews during WWII, even before German occupation began, documents show
“In the first hours following the retreat of the Bolsheviks, the Ukrainian population has demonstrated commendable activity against Jews,” a status report from the Gestapo, Nazi Germany’s secret police, dated July 16, 1941, reads.
https://www.rt.com/russia/584980-kgb-documents-ukrainian-nazis/
Much of the Nazi collaboration with US/NATO allies in Yugoslavia/Balkans has been covered up
The fact is that |Stepan Bandera and his OUN Party were very nasty people who hated and killed Jews, Poles and Russians by the thousands.
he was removed from Ukraine by Hitler , then employed by the CIA after the war to fight Russia and eventually assassinated in 1958 by the Russians.
Troll
Jim Ferguson
@JimFergusonUK
Breaking USA : I’m hearing reports that Rep. Mike Rogers has indicated that he is now supporting Jim Jordon for Speaker of the House and moving his vote to a yes for Jim. This would be a huge win for the Trump endorsed candidate.
#USA #SpeakerOfTheHouse #Trump
Yes, it is posted over at Gateway Pundit:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/victory-vocal-mccarthy-supporter-rino-mike-rogers-folds/
Was WWII a proportional response to Pearl Harbor?
Israel needs to flatten Gaza! All of it!
Actually, Japan attacked us. Hitler then supported them by declaring war. So we responded by prioritizing Hitler’s defeat, putting the following above defeating Japan, our forces fighting Hitler, English forces fighting Hitler, Russian forces fighting Hitler. The last two were lend lease. Defeating uboats to get all that support to Europe was also a higher priority too.
If Hitler still had a fleet to defeat, our navy would have been fighting in the Atlantic instead of the Pacific. The rest of our forces in the Pacific, the few we could spare from fighting Hitler, fought Japan, and won, on a shoe string.
I am not quite sure that is the lesson Israel should learn from our response to Pearl Harbor.
You proved my point Jim.
Look at everything you stated. What you stated is not proportional to Pearl Harbor.
“Show string”, disgusting comment.
Shoe string not show string
The campaign to retake Guadalcanal (Operation Watchtower) was sardonically referred to by the Navy and Marines as “Operation Shoestring”.
So the Pacific war really did start out that way.
You really should read more about those efforts. I am further impressed by their doing wonders under adverse conditions. Mother’s mothers brother was a copilot on a B17. Shot down somewhere North of New Guinea. Tried reading as much as I could. Much of what little was sent to Australia that first year was commandeered by bases in the rear.
Those air forces in Australia served under MacArthur. Found a book by the commander of the army air forces that supported the Navy’s Island hopping. He was really proud about how they made air bases on shoe strings under fire. Wasn’t just the Seabees. Near the end, he was dumbfounded when he saw the resources being used to prepare Okinawa for the Army Air Forces coming over from Europe.
The Navy was severely handicapped by losses and had to survive until we pumped out vessels of all sorts. But they got most of the resources committed to the pacific. The army, army air forces, and even marines in the pacific had to get by with less until Hitler was gone.
“If Hitler had a fleet to defeat, our Navy would have been fighting in the Atlantic instead of the Pacific.”
Our Atlantic coast-German submarines sunk 400 ships during WWII.
A majority were sunk off the coast of Carolinas.
Torpedo Alley
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_Alley
Pretty fascinating to read about it.
It is one of those hidden pieces of history …….
I even had a list of ships, dates, numbers of deaths when I was researching.
It was all up and down the coast until the Germans found their “perfect spot” where they could hide off the Carolinas coast.
It’s been years….but I believe they even sunk a couple of our ships in the gulf. 🤔
🤷♀️💁🤷♀️🤷♀️💁
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Happy_Time
It was also known as Operation Drum Beat
and
American Shooting Season
Fascinating thing is that 99.9% of our population didn’t really know about…or the extent of what was happening at the time.
I learned about this a couple of years ago during a visit to Mobile, AL. I had never heard about it before then! I figured maybe I just didn’t pay attention in school, but I’m starting to think it just wasn’t taught…
Yes, one amazing aspect to our victory in WWII.
Another was the Pacific Campaign. HORRIFIC!!!!!!!!!
Family member came back from the Pacific Campaign a savage. He ate his kills. Literally carved flesh off and ate it. Not one body. Not two bodies but numerous kills. He said they tasted like fish. Maybe because that was their diet?
Again was the Pacific Campaign “proportional” to Pearl Harbor?
We were hiding the truth from our people.
A wierd mixture causes.
Our having turned over about 50 destroyers to Britain for access to bases March 1941. They were old, but we needed them later.
Our not imposing war time restrictions such as turning lights off on the coast, making it easy to find ships at night.
Our refusal to implement convoys for protection. Ignoring British hard won lessons learned.
Much of this is attributed to Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox. But blame gets skipped just like MacArthur avoiding all blame for letting Japan destroy our Air Forces under his command some hours after he was told about Pearl and he bragged that it wouldn’t happen in the Philippines.
The cartoon should have the fake Israel & Jewish American community Representatives in Congress, like Schumer,Nadler,Schiff,Wasserman-Shultz, Raskin etc in the cartoon. This is a great example of mealy mouth lying political muppets doing the Hegelian Dialectic. Working both sides of an issue. Most nations have an identical problem: treasonous, criminal, & fraudulent political prostitutes serving shadowy globalist puppet masters behind the scenes while destroying their nations to serve a Luciferian Global agenda
Wow…
From American Thinker today exposing what a JOKE our BORDER TRULY IS by the CORRUPT Biden administration:
Who controls American borders? The US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency. Their MISSION STATEMENT is “Protect the American people, safeguard our borders, and enhance the nation’s economic prosperity.”
Are they doing that? Or the opposite? We are the guardians of our Nation’s borders.
· We are America’s front line.
· We safeguard the American homeland
· at and beyond our borders.
· We protect the American people against
· terrorists and the instruments of terror.
· We steadfastly enforce the laws of the United States
· while fostering our Nation’s economic security through
· lawful international trade and travel.
· We serve the American people with vigilance, integrity, and professionalism.