Twitter user Jason Bailey [LINK HERE] has done a deep dive into the latest CDC data on SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). There is obviously a lot of noise amid the competing COVID narratives, as politicians and media are intent on weaponizing the fear for maximum political value. Baily provides the links and just looks at the raw data.
CDC COVID Data Here – and Spreadsheets in pdf format ARE HERE
We know that much of the raw data underlying the CDC statistics are inflated by the way the data is collected and manipulated by the hospitals and healthcare system. However, that said, if we just accept the raw CDC data and evaluate what they are collecting as a way to estimate the risks….here’s the outcome.
♦ Facts as of 9/4/21:
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- TOTAL CASES (US): 40,048,255
- TOTAL DEATHS (US): 643,858
♦ DEATHS BY AGE:
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- 50-64 years: 106,674 (.27% of total cases)
- 65-74 years: 144,020 (.36% of total cases)
- 75-84 years: 173,655 (.43% of total cases)
- 85+ years: 185,188 (.46% of total cases)
♦ TOTAL DEATHS account for 1.6% of total cases.
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- 78.1% of TOTAL DEATHS are over the age of 65.
- 94.7% of TOTAL DEATHS are over the age of 50.
- 6% of TOTAL DEATHS are attributed to Covid only.
- 94% of TOTAL DEATHS have an average of 2.9 co-morbidities (12/6/20).
Why is COVID-19 being disproportionately hyped as such a dangerous threat, when the reality of the statistical danger is much less than the intense level of hype? That is the key question.
Thank you
Yes, ditto.
How can you blame anyone?
The whole thing is a JOKE!
I basically decided Biden is a joke, Fauci is a joke, Scarf is a joke. Why should I also be a joke.
Actually, I did read from other Doctors and when the jokers called the “other” Doctors quacks. It was all I really needed to not take the “Jab”.
It may be a joke but I ain’t laughing.
Me neither.
Tyranny is never a joke.
Maybe we have been laughing when we should have been lynching.
Birx disappeared in a hurry, didn’t she.
They got rid of her using the BS excuse that she traveled to a second house for Thanksgiving with her family. Fauci didn’t like sharing the spotlight with anyone, let alone a girl who thinks she can be a doctor.
For death #, Yes, I know a nurse in my area and she said obese people , (very obese) when they go into the ICU they don’t come out alive.
Obesity is a high risk. If our gov was serious at preventing deaths they should raise more awareness about obesity.
Also obesity usually causes diabetes, high blood pressure and much more and they all increase their risk of death with or without covid.
High risk people really need to be careful because hospitals won’t treat you. Do not count on hospitals.
Here is something that is hopeful for those who are obese and with the comorbidities.
Monoclonal antibody therapy, aka Regeneron.
They are considered high risk and this is ONE treatment that seems to be actually useful that the CDC allows. Unfortunately, it seems also to be for ONLY high risk people.
I started looking into it because my husband is travelling to Florida and I gave him links to DeSantis’ monoclonal antibody sites that can be given without a referral, should he get sick. Now he is going armed with multiple treatments, including ivermectin, but just in case.
So, then I started looking into it for the rest of us, because I’m about to light into Governor DeWine about getting our own sites up.
Apparently, there are treatment centers in Ohio and in my vicinity. And that one would need a referral.
https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19-now/monoclonal-antibodies-high-risk-covid-19-positive-patients
https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19/how-do-i-know-if-im-high-risk
https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/therapeutics-distribution
I don’t think I fall into high risk, although overweight, I guess I’m not fat enough. I don’t know.
“You or your loved one may be eligible for mAb treatment if you meet the following criteria:
People can be at high risk because of many reasons including their age, having an underlying medical condition, and other things. Some of the most common reasons are listed below:
So, here’s a medicine that is supposedly very effective from what I hear and yet it’s only for certain people.
The rest of us can die in the hospital on a vent.
My husband doesn’t qualify either.
The number two co-morbidity is anxiety. It’s not on the official CDC website but a doctor found it on another official list. It’s not clear if this is because the panic creates a quick descent into low oxygenation or if it has to do with the medication taken for anxiety (ssri’s), but it appears to be the panic. I’ve had asthma my whole life and when you have reduced lung function, you have to breath slowly or you can pass out.
Not surprisingly, our media and Fauci are the number one panic inducers in the nation…
Yes, I have anxiety and panic disorder that started in ’15 due to various medications. It went away when I stopped them, but when I had to take Flagyl, that’s when it settled in for good. Maybe I could qualify. I’m not taking anything for it because I really am frightened of medicines and had a bad bout when I was temporaily put on Lexapro early that year, too.
Although many things have gone away, everything went down hill after the Flagyl.
I did buy myself a finger probe pulse oximetry. Hope it’s accurate! I’ve used it from time to time when I’m feeling short of breath, which also seems to have started lately. Another reason why I wonder if any vaccine shedding has exacerbated symptoms of many years ago. Maybe, maybe not.
It’s just hard when you feel like they really do want to kill us, which I know they do.
It just occurred to me, not just cleaning out government but EVERY business cleaning out all the ones refusing the vaccine, which means only the brainwashed compliant will be in charge of EVERYTHING for sure now. And they are just so nasty to us and won’t reason to why many of us have refused. They will never believe the CDC and NIH are so corrupt.
Look at how Biden’s “order” will be doing and has done to hospitals, LTC facilities, colleges, universities, just like that one professor we saw yesterday who is being fired. I don’t know if she’s liberal or not, but they only want those who believe in the global government to be working now and we really will be on the other side of the wall when this is over if we can’t elect our own people and do a major clean out. It is bad enough how the Left has taken over every institution, organization, association, etc., etc., but this mandate, if followed by these companies, etc., will really get rid of any stragglers left.
“The rest of us can die in the hospital on a vent.”
I have seen so many videos/news stories supporting this contention; hospital protocols are not designed to save the COVID patient. Protocols deny helpful therapeutic treatments and force deadly treatments.
ICU RN of 40+ years of experience here, Resistance Day #8, waiting on test results.
Many years ago, I read an article that stated, sorry no link, that one pound of fat tissue, requires the equivalent of 3 miles worth of veinules and arterioles, for its vascular needs within the body.
If true, someone who is truly obese, or morbidly obese, has an overabundance of blood vessels available, for ‘micro-clot formation’, to be sent all over the body.
Diabetes, or high blood glucose levels, damage the inside walls of arteries and veins, making them a good place for some clot material to hang out, and grow only to be released and sent to other parts of the body.
Actually it is none of the governments business if someone is obese. Personal responsibility.
Fat is the new skinny.
besides personal choices, a campaign on obesity would necessarily be an attack on food processors/manufacturers…their unhealthy formulations and heavy use of corn syrup and other additives to increase flavor and calories can be directly attributed to a less healthy diet
What he is saying is that what’s killing the unvaxxed is not really no vax, but obesity. In other words non-obese unvaxxed are not dying like the obese unvaxxed.
Thin unvaxxed w/ covid= mostly fine
Obese unvaxxed w/ covid= mostly seriously ill or dead.
So don’t blame the vax…. It’s what he is saying.
No such thing as covid…..has never been isolated.
Neither are dying in any statistically different way.
2020 Deaths From All Causes in the United States did not vary in a significant way from prior years. But that changed when the vaccinations began in 2021, now the Deaths from All Causes are on the move upward.
BIDEN/CDC keep changing the rules. Through 2021 so far, Flu Deaths reported: 1,822.
2020 Flu Deaths were 38 million.
2019 Flu Deaths were 36 Million.
2018 Flu Deaths were 45 Million.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/whistleblower-nurse-majority-of-our-covid-patients-are-actually-suffering-from-vaccine-injuries/
Sundance just posted that article yesterday. Wonder what area she is in, but we won’t know.
I don’t know how accurate this is either, but look at last year’s flu.
Flu is a scam too. People need to start looking at the medical paradigm differently.
You sure that isn’t cases for Influenza Like Illnesses rather than deaths?
Correct. Those are the estimated cases of flu, not flu deaths.
You might want to check your stats. They are way off.
643,858 deaths doesn’t strike me as a funny punch line.
Unless you are arguing from relative danger standpoint.
But we don’t know how many are really from “Covid”. Verisimilitude”with”.
Versus. Type ahead….
6% as stated in the stats, or 38,631 died OF Covid VS with covid.
6% are from Covid ONLY according to CDC .
That amounts to about 39,000 in total, or about 22,000 per year (we are about one and three quarter years in).
How many flu deaths from flu in 2018? Over 80,000.
Do the math.
The only people to blame are Gub’ment Officials that orchestrated this crap on us in the first place. Gallows one – Fauci; Gallows 2 – Chinese Bat Lady; Gallow-3 (place your selection here)
They blame the unvaccinated saying they have caused the spread of the Delta variant here in the US.
As far as I know, none of the supposed variants originated in the US, so how is it the fault of anyone here?
‘presumptive’ variants.
as i understand it, there is no test for delta, et al.
nonetheless , your point is completely valid.??
The variants are the adverse reactions ???
The variants are the fear variants being injected when the covid panic wanes
i have seen that postulated, too, and that may very well be the case.
would be nice if somebody would do some legitimate scientific research on that, wouldn’t it?
but there seems to be a dearth of actual science around the whole covid phenomena,
and i think we can all guess why….
Retroviruses cycle genetically via a process called recombination. It’s constant. Unrelenting. The notion of a “variant” implies a stable genetic state that mutates into another stable genetic state.
The recombination is constant and ongoing. What is insane? Mass vaccination into global surge of viral infection.
Why? Viral Escape. It’s the viral corollary to insect resistance to insecticides, or bacterial resistance to antibiotics… the use of promiscuous vaccination “selects for” adaptation that can result in dangerous and far more lethal evolutionary mutations.
This is the product of promiscuous vaccination.
Why can we not get promiscuous vaccinators to admit this simple dynamic so fundamental to evolutionary biology.
It’s as if the promiscuous vaccinators have some underlying perverse sexual fetish about sticking people with jabs, the forced penetration, against their will, against their best interests, all for the glory and power of the promiscuous authoritarians demanding their submission to experimental vaccines.
It’s deeply perverse. Darkly perverse. Typical Cluster B behavior. These people are sick.
Corona viruses are Positive Sense RNA viruses. However, they are not retroviruses.
Yes they can do recombination if during co-infections of a cell with a different virus. The normal path for variants is point mutations.
Thanks Chem for correcting this. SARS-CoV-2 is NOT a retrovirus.
Translation of the rest:
If 2 different viruses infect the same cell….it is possible for them to “mix” their genetic material in a recombination event.
Normally though the viral RNA is just assembled wrong (a point mutation) when going about the process of making new virus possibly leading to a new variant.
However, most mutations break things.
Especially very small things that have few genes and are barely here at all
I blame that little bastard Fauci who decided to funnel money to Daszak and on to the Chicoms who helped create this disaster.
I blame the multitude of regulatory/licensing/approval authorities who refused to acknowledge other therapies for treatment in favor of dollar signs, then threatened health care providers to refuse one treatment in favor of another.
Finally, I blame the politicians (who are now exempt from the mandate) who refuse to do their sworn duty and stop this madness.
It’s really “Fauci’s Virus.”
Dr. Frankenfauci’s monster.
Fixing Blame is good.
Retribution is better.
Blaming them is nowhere as satisfying has beating the Shiite out of them.
Datsak and Fauci should be hanged for crimes against humanity.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/whistleblower-nurse-majority-of-our-covid-patients-are-actually-suffering-from-vaccine-injuries/
He means the FAT.
And “they” want our children to become upstanding citizens, just like the celebrities.
What a group of sluts.
What’s really gross is we’re in an age where calling those creatures “sluts” is putting it nicely. We need to expand the dictionary.
The dictionary has a fine definition already: Demons.
I’d rather cull our enemies.
Total deaths 643,858 x 6% = 38,631 ACTUAL U.S. Covid only deaths.
And… that’s like a typical U.S. flu season. (which oddly didn’t occur last year)
When we consider numbers relating to COVID-ONLY deaths—-
40,048,255 actual cases divided by 38,631 covid only deaths = 1036.
100 divided by 1036 = percentage of deaths compared to the total cases: 0.096%
That’s an overall survival rate of 99.914%
You’re reading the numbers wrong.
643,858 represents total U.S. covid deaths from 1/1/2020 to 9/4/2021
The 6% number you’re using is the percentage of U.S. covid deaths out of all U.S. deaths for all causes during that same time period.
Wrong Johnny.
ALL the numbers shown are COVID numbers.
The CDC has admitted that of their total covid death count (643,858) only 6% are COVID-ONLY deaths. 38,631
CDC DATA :
Total U.S. DEATHS ( ALL CAUSES ) :
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016 : 2,744,248
2017 : 2,813,503
2018 : 2,839,206
2019: 2,855,000
2020: 2,913,144
Does anyone know why the CDC Total death count for 2020 is now 3,358,814? Lurker’s numbers were correct earlier this year, but it looks like the CDC “adjusted” the numbers. It may be that the CDC were just slow at tabulating the numbers.
Between 1/1/2020 and 9/4/2021, 643,858 doctors filled out death certficates which said the cause of death of their patient was covid.
So what if 38,631 of those doctors wrote “covid only”on their death certificates. Why is that important? Is that more important than the other 605,227 doctors who certified cause of death as covid?
They were WITH covid. People who had in general 2.9 OTHER reasons that they died.
How about the guys that fell off of ladders who died, but had covid PCR positives (also dubious) they are in that TOTAL, but most likely would have survived.
The number you fixate on could just as well be the number who died WITH BLUE EYES or WITH brown hair. Get it? It’s not a meaningful number.
Are you mentally challenged or simply a troll?
Multiply 643,858 by $38,000
This is why doctors or hospital administrators list covid as primary cause of death
For those who don’t want to plug the numbers
A staggering amount of cash
$24,466,244,000
No they did NOT! The CDC does the counting NOT the doctor. The cause of death can be liver cancer, heart attack, lung cancer, stroke or kidney failure and the doctor can list any of these as your primary and secondary cause of death, however, if you tested positive in the hospital or hospice for Coronavirus it’s counted as a Coronavirus death. You’re confusing two different processes!
This news article and video of the Illinois State Health Director stating that the CDC Death Count includes any person who died of any causes other than Covid-19 but simply tested positive is counted as a Coronavirus death:
“If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who’s listed as a COVID death doesn’t mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death.” Dr. Ezike outlined.”
Watch the video!
https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/
The 40 million cases does not recognize those who contracted Covid but didn’t know it because of asymptomatic or minor symptoms but have immunity. Probably another 40 million if not more.
Masks are pure political theater….
Democrats before the media show up in New York yesterday.
Sundance reminds us that they do this on purpose. Reminders of their control over us.
I tend to agree with you. It’s all so out in the open. It’s like they love to rub it in that they hold the power and can get away with anything, anywhere, any time.
Completely ignorant of the beauty that surrounds them.
I would prefer them to remain ignorant of the retribution that is about to engulf them.
They don’t care and they take ivermectin also, according to Pierre Kory who he says has heard it form a very credible source. They know they’re covered, rotten bastards.
You bet they do and they DO NOT want to share
It’s not hypocrisy when they WANT YOU TO SEE.
It’s Hunger Games.
SHTF time in Nigeria soon?
This is another real test of how far they can push people:
What the heck happened here? Were they ever into ivermectin?
How long can they lie about the efficacy of the vaccines, as well as all the adverse effects?
Don’t know what’s going on, but after seeing that post I did a quick search for Nigeria and neighboring countries and it looks like Nigeria is having a spike in cases and mortality. But this is the nature of the beast and the world needs to figure out how to live with this damned virus. We can’t keep locking down humanity (said the person with no power while scanning the horizon and noticing that the powers that be seem to be doing just that).
It seems the world is going insane, one country at a time.
This is great! I have been really frustrated with the lack of serious data and was planning to start my own research.
One of the things that bothers me is that if a person has been vaccinated but the jab was administered less than 14 days… and the person gets the virus, and is hospitalized, or dies, his/her case can be counted among the UNvaccinated.
The glaring problem with such a classification is that their illness was likely caused by the “vaccine” itself. Yet the real cause is then deliberately and dishonestly hidden from the public.
That is exactly why they do it that way!
I can see the word play and deception. Someone gets both jabs, third jab is now available and victim dies from vaccine without receiving their third jab therefor they were unvaccinated.
Some data is garbage. With the CDC rule that you are unvaccinated until 14 days after the second shot means anyone dieting after the first shot died as unvaccinated. Forget adverse reactions to the jab, by definition you are unvaccinated. See how that works?
CDC and about 100 agencies in DC need to become extinct if our country a to survive any longer
This stuff has been true from the very beginning of the Co-Vid pandemic.
The median age of death in Canada is 82.
The median age of death from Co-Vid in Canada is 85.
Co-Vid finishes off those at death’s door.
I remain extremely suspicious at Fauci’s motive for inventing a disease (gain of function?) that shortens human life by days (hours?).
Leftism is a death cult. Abortion is a sacrament of the leftist religion. Andrew Cuomo went up, went up in the opinion polls after planting Co-Vid carriers in New York State nursing homes.
The indifference to the inability of America to meet its pension obligations in the near future has some root source.
Janet Yellen says America is on the verge of defaulting on its national debt. Perhaps the mask is slipping?
I remain extremely suspicious at Fauci’s motive for inventing a disease (gain of function?) that shortens human life by days (hours?).
What’s to be suspicious of?
He’d wet dreamed all his life of being on the cover of Time as the next Dr. Jonas Salk.
He missed his chance with AIDS so he had to invent the disease in order to get credit for the Vax.
“I remain extremely suspicious at Fauci’s motive for inventing a disease (gain of function?) that shortens human life by days (hours?).”
I suspect use of/effects of the “vaccine” is the true goal…
“This vaccine holds an (as yet) unknown purpose.”
The vaccine is needed to force the digital vaccine certificate.
The digital vaccine certification, probably an app on a phone, will be required for all essentials of modern life. It will be the the means to control our movement and actions. It will not go away after the virus does.
Vaccine passports provide the premise for a single authentication certificate. Employment, medical care, digital car controls, toll road passes, transit, and banking/ATM apps are all easily tied into a single digital certificate. Once we accept it, it will be shared with all other systems. It will be used to cancel us at any time for any reason the central State sees fit.
The technology is already in place in China in the form of social credit score. In the West the digital vaccine passport is the missing piece that ties us, our identity, to our phone.
The ‘app’ will be embedded within the injected graphene oxide in your brain. THAT’s why nobody is allowed to avoid the injections. The boosters are software updates.
Perhaps but the purpose the ChiComs used it for was to take down their #1 Enemy President Trump.
That and to get back to the devils business
Scientists have suggested that the Vaxxine-19 actually creates an ID in your body that can be read by cell phones/towers.
It has been stated that In August of this year Pfizur attained a patent for an injection that would allow your body conditions, such as a covid infection (and what else?) to be broadcast from your body to your phone.
And of course what’s on your phone is everyone’s business -(see Panopticon – Jovan Pulitzer).
Forgot to mention look up RFID tags as a reference point.
Confirmation.
I am a little dense but what does the total of the total cases by age group add up to?
.27% + .36% + .43% + .46% = ?
Something wrong here.
I had the same confusion, but someone downthread explained that it’s cases per age group and then the percentage within that group that died.
Deaths by age group divided by Total Cases (the 40+ million number). The sum won’t be 1.00. I haven’t looked at all the numbers, but deaths for an age group divided by cases for an age group would tell me more about my chances.
At any rate, both the number of cases and the number of deaths are questionable, at best.
Thank you!
Another thing thats questionable; they ADMIT the vax doesn’t prevent you from getting or spreading covid, (so HOW is it supposed to enable us to “get back to normal?),..BUT (they say) it reduces the SEVERITY of the symptoms, for those who DO get sick, and who have been vaxed.
I haven’t seen any DATA to substantiate this; since they admitted, early on that some people who get covid will be asymptomatic, and others will only have mild, flu-like symptoms (without any treatment) how can they possibly develop legitimate data to prove that the vax reduces symptoms?
They CAN’T! Ergo, the ONE selling point they have, for the Vax, is simply made up. There is no other rational explanation.
So, if it won’t keep me from getting or spreading Covid, and it won’t make it any less severe if I do, why in the World would I take it?
This is a harder sell than New Coke, and neither bribes nor threats nor insults are going to move the needle much.
I think one way would be based on hospitalizations for severe disease.
Cut to the chase: what are the symptoms of the sick people in the hospital that are mRNA injected? Not just those deemed “covid” but all admitted patients.
What do you mean? (Sorry for being thick.)
The symptoms of any one of these diseases and conditions:
seizures
Prion’s disease/Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
Bell’s Palsy
Guillain-Barré
Kawasaki disease
thromboembolism
thrombocytopenia
stroke
ADE
infertility
acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
encephalitis
myocarditis
pericarditis
narcolepsy and cataplexy
demyelinating diseases
autoimmune disease
multisystem inflammatory syndrome
Of course it’s made up! Since 99 percent of Covid-19 patients had mild symptoms last year with no vax in sight.. how can they now credit the vax for these mild symptoms?
“it reduces the SEVERITY of the symptoms, for those who DO get sick, and who have been vaxed.” I haven’t seen any DATA to substantiate this
Nope, I haven’t seen any data to support that either
I think it’s simply a CLAIM
… that was rolled out right after the bigger news was disclosed that vaccinated people could get infected by covid AND pass the infection on to others
That was such a bomber of a bad news story that it was a knee-jerk assertion to immediately save some slip of a semblance of validity from the disaster of that news
It came out immediately, right? (I won’t check back but that’s my recollection)
“Oh yeah? Well the vaccinated have LESS SEVERE illness !!!
(nyah nyah !)
I’ve never, ever seen them even attempt to back it up
I believe it’s just an unsupported assertion
Anyone?
I would assume this assertion is, among other things, based on hospitalizations and rates of severe cases among vaccinated and unvaccinated. I would imagine doctors are also reporting on what they’re seeing on the ground, but not sure how that data is gathered, if at all.
If one is vaccinated and is asymptomatic, or has only very mild symptoms – but has a “free pass” to attend any high density function – be it nightclub, sport, theatre etc. this could very quickly turn these major events into super-spreader events.
Maybe this is deliberate, it will be interesting to see what narrative will be used to hide this, when it becomes more obvious that the vaccinated are spreading covid more than the unvaccinated and therefore proving that the vaccines are not providing “protection” from contracting covid and are therefore not worth taking the extra risk of having the vaccine for no real benefit.
SteveT
The spike protein is clearly the “poison”.
And the intended solution will be
1) New variants
2) VAX harder
The excess deaths numbers will really start showing up as well as a variety of out of the ordinary diseases
20-somethings with heart failure, strokes and other odd diseases will be noticed.
And blamed on the variants.
So……more VAX.
“I think it’s simply a CLAIM”
Exactly! A talking point to encourage vaccination.
“new coke”
? ? ? ?
excellent analogy!
THIS is their bait and switch.
Vaccines train the immune system to dispatch infections for extended period of time perhaps forever.
(The flu vaccine being the exceptional scam.)
DRUGS TREAT SYMPTOMS If the drug doesn’t address the underlying cause, the symptoms will return when you stop taking it.
They approved these as a VACCINE and are now promoting it as a DRUG.
They have RE-DEFINED a vaccine as providing “protection”.
They have RE-DEFINED “herd immunity” as only a result of vaccinations.
They have issued EUA to TEST this novel vaccine using experimental tech. on human guinea pigs.
They have not issued EUA for testing anti-inflammatory drugs we have had in the toolbox for decades OFF-LABEL to treat C19 SYMPTOMS.
CDC announced they were not going to track “breakthrough” infections as of MAY 1 ,2021
They already knew this was happening in other parts of the world and finally had to admit it because of the Cape Cod Outbreak.
If vaccinated people are producing equivalent VIRAL LOADS as unvaccinated people (as Fauci himself admitted)
enough to INFECT OTHERS, be SYMPTOMATIC, HOSPITALIZED, or DIE…
Then the discussion about SYMPTOMS is really the same discussion we have had since the beginning:
How much virus were you exposed to?
and
How many co-morbidities do you have?
I’m not even sure the “breakthroughs” are actually breakthroughs at all.
The only way to know if a vaccine works for sure:
1) Administer the vaccine to the test subject
2) Expose them to the wild virus.
Is the vaccine providing ANY protection at all OR did you simply not get exposed to the virus until…
you got exposed to the virus.
**LANGUAGE WARNING***
A must watch
Amen. I’m done with the covid talk. I’m ready…just say the word.
A remarkable data point is the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. With 240 million people, impoverished region, poor hygiene, crowding, and a very low 4% “vaccination” rate they are near 0 deaths and few hospitalizations.
What they do different is to make Ivermectine readily available and it’s used widespread.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout—part-iii-the-lesson-of-kerala/article_ccecb97e-044e-11ec-9112-2b31ae87887a.html
India also has great homeopathic doctors and it’s been used successfully during covid. Check their newspapers.
Having spent many professional decades in public health, there is nothing even remotely normal in COVID reporting.
While there is a viral vector that is likely a bioweapon that is mutating because of a “leaky” vaccine design; inexpensive, effective therapeutic agents relieve 99+% of downside issues while providing evidence of long term immuno protection.
One can’t fix stupid and reckless…
“Stupid and reckless” implies negligence ~ what about intent?
So basically, the chance of dying from Covid is less than one percent in EVERY age group, yes?
The percentages shown above are age group deaths divided by TOTAL cases
We need: age group deaths divided by (same) age group cases.
Ah, I would like to see that number breakdown.
People should be more concerned with potential long term side effects of the mRNA vaccines like autoimmune responses and prion disease.
Video of Julie Ponesse, Canadian Ethics Professor who posted that very compelling video that was circulating recently, speaking a month ago about public policy and tyranny as it relates to covid. It’s about 15 minutes long and she has an excellent way of explaining things – steady, calm, and clear.
Alex Berenson has been doing the deep dive since day one, collecting and analyzing data, reporting findings from MEDICAL reviews, and sounding the alarm about many different aspects that weren’t adding up. He has been banned from Twitter for “disinformation”, despite being extremely thorough, with supporting documentation. Those responsible for withholding, suppressing and manipulating accurate data for the purpose of controlling people through fear, need to be exposed and punished, starting with Fauci. Anyone who profitted monetarily should have every one of their assets seized, right before heading off to prison.
As deranged as the mask and vax nazis are, I want to see the day they turn against our leaders that lied to them. Specially because we will be on the same side. Us + them against the globalists.
As Mark Twain opined: “It’s far easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled.”
They will remain unbowed by the truth.
Learned that trying to inform close associates for their own good.
The system is WAY “broke”, and those still seriously calling for legal actions, are dillusional, I submit.
We are WAY PAST locking up or sueing. The remedy WILL NOT come from the Courts, nor from the political system.
It can, ultimately only come from WE, the People.
Non-compliance, in a UNITED fashion, WILL put an end to tyranny, relatively quickly.
The challenge is, will we get the Unity, or not?
And, how much misery will we have to endure, before we GET the necesary unity.
And no, it not only doesn’t require violence, violence actually plays right into their hands.
ALL it takes, is the populace, writ large, by actions and words to say
“NO, STOP THUS MADNESS! We will NOT comply!”
FORCE them to FIRE you.
Then, get a job as an ‘essential worker’, loading trucks, stocking shelves, etc.
Do NOT comply, “hold the line”, freedom and liberty aren’t, and perhaps shouldn’t be ‘easy’.
In the Costco crowd today, even though masks are not required to shop, about 75% were wearing them. Women especially. Seems we are a long way off from sanity unfortunately.
That’s because there are no men anymore. They’ve all been deballed by their wives. I’m culture shock to them and imagine somewhat repulsive when I open my mouth around them.
“They” haven’t all been deballed by their wives.
Most of the women on here love real men, and are repulsed by those who are deballed and by the women who deball them.
If the shoe fits… I would have expected anyone on this site to understand what I meant. Sorry, next time I’ll spell it completely out.
And no, it not only doesn’t require violence, violence actually plays right into their hands.
And yes it will, always has, this isn’t Gandhi and the wussy Brits, this is China and Hong Kong.
And how would “playing right into their hands” leave us in any worse a position than we are now?
I have seen no solid arguments against violence other than the false Gandhi Comparison and the “playing into their hands” hypothetical that appears to achieve for them by our own fear what they would otherwise have to achieve by victory on the battlefield.
Sun Tsu’s perfect strategy—for them.
I continue to believe it is not a strategy issue but an aesthetic one.
Herm, You cannot let them determine when or where you enter the battlefield.
That is what Biden is trying to do. This is also a war for knowledge, and we are becoming more and more informed by the day. Without the obfuscation of the truth, they cannot win. It’s a battle for hearts and minds, and our fight currently consists of revoking our consent to be governed and revocation of our compliance.
YOU GO DUTCH! JUST SAY NO!
Whatever they did in England seemed to have worked. Boris says no more vax passports, no more shutdowns, etc. quite a quick turnaround.
Wow, that’s the first I heard about that. How do you figure Johnson’s sudden about face? Very interesting. Meanwhile, the citizens of France are out in the streets protesting vax passports and mandates week after week after week, so far, to no avail.
Facts get in the way of the fear, thus facts must be suppressed since fear is what enables control.
For anyone who’s struggling with, or who knows anyone struggling with long haul syndrome (post covid or post covid vaccine), this interview w/Dr. Patterson is incredible! It’s very detailed and quite technical, but you can just grab what you’re able to. The big take away is this doctor has done amazing work figuring out how to treat this syndrome and offers so much hope. (In fact, Dr. Been, who interviews him, opens the interview by suggesting that Dr. Patterson, along with Dr. Kory, should be nominated for the Nobel Prize.)
One of the things Dr. Patterson shares is that adverse reactions to the vaccine that are long-lasting mimic long covid post infection and he’s been able to very successfully treat those reactions. It sounds as if the process to do that is relatively fast and efficient, as compared to long hauler post infection which takes longer, but which he’s still able to get the person’s immune system back to normal though it takes many months. He explains the treatments he uses and why. As folks here at CTH know, it’s all about inflammation.
If you’ve had any first hand experience w/this issue (yourself or someone you know), you’ll understand how debilitating the long-term effects can be and this amazing doctor provides so much hope.
Thank you, Sarah Lee!
Thank you! Passing on to a friend who contracted COVID over Independence Day. She’s still experiencing difficulties, and is having a difficult time getting doctors to treat her, especially without getting a 15 minute sermon on the virtues of the vaccine and how “this wouldn’t have happened” if she just got jabbed.
There is some controversy around Dr. Patterson. His company, IncellDx, briefly worked with a company called Cytodyn, but they apparently parted company on less than good terms. Dr. Patterson is now part of consortium’s effort to replace the current Board of Cytodyn. Cytodyn has filed a lawsuit against that group.
Quoting from Cytodyn’s 8/18/21 Schedule 14A filing:
“The Company’s Lawsuit further allege that Dr. Patterson has attempted to patent certain uses of Leronlimab as his own, which was rejected by the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (the “USPTO”). This is false, as Dr. Patterson has not attempted to do so. Patent applications have been submitted by IncellDx, not Dr. Patterson, in connection with certain uses of CCR5 antagonists in COVID-19. The Participants understand that those patents are currently pending before the USPTO and have not been rejected (contrary to the assertions of the Company in the Lawsuit) and have been advised by IncellDx that they do not directly conflict with patents held solely by the Company.”
They seem to be parsing words. I have several patents, and as far as I know Inventors (people) file patents. They are usually assigned to a company.
It is CytoDyn’s investigative new drug Leronlimab that holds great promise, not just for Covid, but also for HIV, and many cancers and other ailments. Information regarding their completed and ongoing clinical trials (including a long haulers trial), as well as patient testimonies, can be found on their website.
And how many so-called COVID cases are really COVID cases and just a simple aggregate of all respiratory diseases … COVID, flu, and other nasty colds.
So Biden, go and start taking your twice-a-year booster shots and let us see how you do … what’ll get you first … the shots or your dementia.
I’ll think about taking the Chinese virus scam seriously, when they shut down the border to all illegals, and when usps employees and congress critters are not exempt from getting the vaccine.
Yes, the exemptions REALLY destroy their case for mandates.
If this really was such a serious health emergency that it justified mandating vaccines, it would logically have NO exceptions.
Something like 90 percent of workers work for companies employing less than 100, Congress and Staff, Executive and staff, USPS illegals coming across border, afgan “refugees”,..it is patently and blatantly illogical.
In addition to being UnConstitutional, and misusing OSHA, in a way never intended by the legislation creating OSHA.
Good heavens, that’s not happening any time soon. Very disheartened to read this, too.
EXCLUSIVE: Large Sections of the Border Wall Have Been REMOVED and Left WIDE OPEN Along Heavily Trafficked Drug Route in Southern Arizona
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/exclusive-large-sections-border-wall-removed-left-wide-open-along-heavily-trafficked-drug-route-southern-arizona/
What good fortune for those in power that people do not think.
–Adolf Hitler
The press must grow day in and day out – it is our Party’s sharpest and most powerful weapon.
It doesn’t matter who they vote for, they always vote for us.
– Joseph Stalin
This is data that would be good for President Trump to see. I support everything President Trump does; however, it would be a smart for him to stop recommending the jabs. I wish he would keep quiet about them and focus way more on protecting our individual freedoms
https://canadafreepress.com/article/sir-why-are-you-pushing-the-experimental-covid-19-vaxx
I’m not afraid of covid at all, its Joebama I’m worried about because they going to force me to defend myself and someones gonna get hurt.
And crazy low COVID case rates even in Massachusetts- the hysteria about vaccinating the kids is grotesque. I saw Gottlieb salivating at getting shots in the 5-11 age range starting in October with EUA!
They have done everything in their power to make things worse. The suppression of effective treatments is criminal. Now HHS is interfering with regeneron distribution.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/government-takes-control-of-monoclonal
This is a direct hit at Florida and Ron DeSantis. How DARE HE be efficient at spreading effective therapies?!?
They must do anything they can to destroy his effectiveness.
While the data is politically tainted, it is nonetheless useful in the terms of what is tells us authorities want people to believe (through what they emphasize) and what they do not want people to know (through what they obscure).
I took a look at how the Case Fatality Rate has changed. In the US it peaked on May 14th, 2020 at 6.25%. By September 2020 the CFR had dropped to 3.05%. It is currently 1.61% and has been around that mark since January. Other nations show a similar trend.
The CFR is certainly flawed, due to the politicization of counting both cases and deaths. However, even if we take this data at face value the trend is clear: C19 is much weaker than it was, and/or we are much better at treating it. (Alternatively, the data is being less manipulated…). Probably all three of these statements are true.
That doesn’t sound like we’re losing “the war” to me.
I would assume people will point to vaccines as a major driver of reduced fatalities. And there’s no reason in my mind to believe that isn’t, in fact, a significant factor. In addition, it seems more and more doctors (though still in the minority) have learned how to treat covid and they appear to have had a lot of success, though the Delta variant seems to have posed a slightly bigger challenge.
The Trinidad and Tobago data (from the McDowell video posted by Sundance) showed a marked increase in COVID deaths post-vaccine. We need more data, but TPTB are obfuscating significant data-points. In Vermont, breakthrough cases/deaths of vaccinated are shown as a percentage of total vaccinated, not current cases. You can hide anything/promote anything by how you manipulate the data…
I pay about 5% of interest to the #s – for 2 overwhelming reasons:
1) Trust. Our Institutions have become so — utterly utterly corrupt — I don’t trust them or the MSM.
2) The MSM + Official Health Industry have succeeded in establishing Covid as an Earth-Shaking Disease that justifies the destruction of our culture.
The Truth doesn’t matter any more.
The Psychological Operations have had + will continue to have the effect the powers that be desired.
The numbers presented on this thread are tricky.
Keep in mind the time period for the number counts on this thread started last year on 1/1/2020. The numbers represented at the beginning of the thread were collected from 1/1/2020 through to 9/4/2021
Nothing tricky about it if one desires to understand the entire scope of the CDC totals regarding the disease to date.
The CDC counts any death as a COVID-19 death regardless of the cause as long as the patient tested positive for Coronavirus!
This news article and video of Dr. Ezike Director of the Illinois State Health Dept (Harvard Grad MD) stating that the CDC Death Count includes any person who died of any cause other than Covid-19 but simply tested positive is counted as a Coronavirus death. Her quote:
“If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who’s listed as a COVID death doesn’t mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death.”
The CDC recently confirmed that only 6% of the nation’s 600,000 Coronavirus deaths were caused by Coronavirus alone so it appears that the Dr. Ezike is 100% accurate. Watch the video!
https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/
This is one, among other, problems with having reliable numbers and stats. As you note, mortality from covid was very manipulated. Same goes for the lack of reliable PCR test results, depending on how many cycles that were run. This has been a giant mess from the beginning and has only gotten worse and the entire affair became politicized.
Given the amount of pressure doctors have been under and continue to be subjected to (see link below as one example), why would one trust the corporatized, assembly line medicine system that are most hospitals? There are many incentives and disincentives to doing a wide array of things in medicine and many are quite unbecoming. For example, depending on how a doctor is paid, they may be incentivized to run more tests, or less tests, etc. We already know that hospitals had a financial incentive for covid deaths. It’s not as straight forward and ethical and we might wish it would be.
https://trialsitenews.com/prominent-medical-boards-message-to-physicians-keep-quiet-on-covid-19-vaccine-or-risk-loss-of-licensure-economic-livelihood/
Nope! Your doctor completes the death certificate with the primary and secondary causes of death. It also notes if you tested positive for Covid-19. That’s all the only CDC requirement for counting a Covid-19 death. Watch the video! Your doctor isn’t the one keeping score!
CDC instructions for death certification by your doctor:
” COVID-19 should not be reported on the death certificate if it did not cause or contribute to the death. ”
Like I’ve said before, I’m, not a fan of the CDC; but, if anyone has a hang up with CDC covid data, they need to take a hard look at how doctors are filling out the death certificate because that’s the data source. From where I stand, the instructions seem clear.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/cause-of-death-data-quality.pdf
Hey Dummy, WRONG AGAIN— THE CDC set the standards by which the doctors were told to make their reports.
AdRem – clean-up on aisle 9
Shouldn’t the Deaths by Age add up to 100%? What am I missing?
Each of those is a separate statistic, it’s the percentage of people in that age group that are listed as having died of Covid.
Thank you! Appreciate you jumping in to clarify.
Some ages were left out of the table
We’re getting suckered into the same trap as we did with climate change. While everyone knows that humans can’t control the weather — never mind the climate — we never called out the fraudsters on their stupidity. When they put out that picture of a polar bear on an ice flow or showed us the tree rings and the hockey stick, we should have laughed at their kindergarten science fair projects. But no, we countered their lunacy instead with scientific facts , not realizing that attaching stories to pictures makes a bigger impression in the minds of everyday people than a dissertation on atmospheric thermodynamics.
Calling them out with numbers and percentages and data from real scientists is not the answer. We have to learn from the climate change fiasco that we have to counter them with ridicule and a middle finger. They are not going to acknowledge statistics. They are all in on totalitarianism, including the scientific and medical communities. They will not allow themselves to be shown they are wrong. That is why this is not going to end well.
They are still following the original narrative that EVERY DEATH THAT OCCURED THIS YEAR, regardless of the actual cause, is coded as covid if they can spin a PCR replication process enough times to find a virus. A WRONGFUL assertion of cases and deaths. Recall the real statistic that ONLY 6 PERCENT of cases were FROM covid.
Also note the avg age of a covid death is HIGHER than the avg life span. And NO EARLY TREATMENT options were offered to many of them. My elderly FIL in a nursing home recovered after being HCQ combo. We were unable to visit him. Several weeks later passed away after contracting Legionnaires among other illnesses, but his death was recorded as covid for funding purposes.
“EVERY DEATH THAT OCCURED THIS YEAR, regardless of the actual cause, is coded as covid if they can spin a PCR replication process enough times to find a virus.”
You need to keep something in mind- the CDC does not determine cause of death. Your doctor determines your cause of death.
Your doctor does that by filling out your death certificate.
If you’ve got heartburn with a death being classified as a covid death, you need to start by asking the doctor why he claims it was a covid death.
I’m not a fan of the CDC, but, other than providing the guidance to the doctor for how to fill out the death certificate, the CDC is merely tabulating what doctors are telling them.
It’s all about the doctors.
Remember, the CDC provided “guidance” on how to fill out a Death Certificate and it changed over time, as I recall. Further, you have to consider the pressure on doctors by their “bosses” and professional organizations.
A great thread about just being done with all of this BS. The virus is real- the response by our government and our CDC is fascist.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1436422990149865481.html
Prominent medical boards message to physicians: keep quiet on covid 19 vaccine or risk loss of licensure
https://trialsitenews.com/prominent-medical-boards-message-to-physicians-keep-quiet-on-covid-19-vaccine-or-risk-loss-of-licensure-economic-livelihood/
NYC teachers’s union wins vax mandate battle. Given that it’s the teacher’s union, can’t help but wonder what kinds of strings got pulled on their behalf.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/new-york-city-teachers-union-wins-battle-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_3992707.html
Wow, and in liberal NYC, with I would suspect liberal teachers.
I just saw an awful video on GWP of nurses that demanded to be fired.
Not a total win, unfortunately. If you qualify for one of their exemptions, you will stay on payroll and be given a job elsewhere in the system. “Other educators who don’t want a COVID-19 vaccine must be offered unpaid leave that keeps in place their health coverage or a severance package.”
A lot of people are about to learn what ADE is.
What is Antibody-Dependent Enhancement and why should you care.
ADE is a phenomenon observed in animals during vaccine development against the coronaviruses and measles, respiratory syncytial virus, and dengue viruses previously.
In ADE, the inoculated animals develop the antibodies, but with time, the neutralizing antibodies decrease. When the animals were exposed to a wild-type coronavirus (to test vaccine effectiveness), instead of being protected the animals developed severe infections and died……..
https://drjessesantiano.com/what-is-antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-why-should-you-care/
I’m waiting for proof. Robert Malone, among others, has talked extensively about this, but the last I heard although there were indications this could be happening (ie, trends and signs based on experience that suggest this is a thing), they needed “proof.” I’m eager to see the proof. In fact, I was thinking if ADE was a think then one would expect to see vaccinated people getting very sick from covid, but it seems that if they contract covid, the case is quite mild, so I’m eagerly waiting for some data on ADE. From my perspective, in order to make an informed decision about whether to get vaccinated or not, ADE is one among other factors that a person would want to know about. But I haven’t seen any data on it. If you have any, please share. I’ve been tracking this topic closely and have yet to see evidence.
There is a link at the bottom to more information.
Yes, thank you. I saw that, but it’s similar to other things I’ve read or listened to. It explains ADE and suggests the likelihood of it developing w/covid vaccines, but as Dr. Malone said in an interview a bit ago that while it appears likely, we need “proof.” I am searching for the proof. Not the explanation of what it is or the reasons it seems likely to happen w/covid vaccines based on past history, but proof that it IS happening. I haven’t read anything about that yet.
I believe it CAN happen as it happened with the animals in previous SARS testing mRNA, etc.
However, this is anecdotal, but I know of four cases of Covid recently reported to me by one of my husband’s twin sisters. My husband’s family all got the vaccine who could get it. So the twin’s husband’s brother in law who is vaccinated caught it, he was over it in three days with just some mild flu like symptoms. That same person’s 27 year old unvaccinated niece ended up going to the ER, but I heard she’s okay, I have no idea if they treated her, but apparently she’s all right now. Then the other twin got it, she was also supposedly over it in 3 days.
My husband’s twin sister says the vaccines did what they were supposed to do, that’s why they are all okay. She’s really close to her husband’s side of the family and they all made a decision they were all going to vaccinate and their kids that were eligible, which they did.
I really can’t talk to her about any future repercussions. I really hope nothing transpires but they think the vaccine works.
My sister’s family of 5 all were jabbed as soon as allowed, as my sister is high risk. My brother in law contracted COVID, and spent 10 days hiding in the bedroom of their small house with severe, painful chest congestion. He went back to work late last week, and so far, nobody else in the family appears to have contracted the virus.
I’m still not taking the jab… I don’t believe it “works”, and I am at high risk for blood clots. But this is a valid data point that needs to be considered. Perhaps they were lucky, and are going to be an exception to ADE. I’m not sure when exactly they were jabbed, so maybe the jab hadn’t worn off enough yet to allow COVID to overwhelm his system. Or maybe the truth is it works in some people, but not others. I don’t know.
Just another point of interest: my sister’s twin teenagers were initially kept home from school, but after 1 day home, the school district allowed them to return to school because they were jabbed – even though the jab doesn’t keep you from contracting or spreading it.
Insanity.
As far as I’m concerned, some short lived relief of any particular Covid symptoms is not worth the risk for me and my family in taking the vaccine.
Someone her posted a video the other evening about the military again and the high rates of myocarditis post jab.
Agreed.
However, I am grateful they all came out well on the other side.
With governments controlling/manipulating the data, it will be hard to find/prove ADE. I would suggest watching what Alex Berenson finds ~ he is free on Substack:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/
also known as “Delta”. Soon to be “mu”. Or “kappa”
There will be the Delta House variant, that’s on double secret probation.
Fat, drunk, and covid is no way to go through life, son
The loved one’s of the 643,858 who died don’t give a crap about and are not comforted that TOTAL DEATHS account for 1.6% of total cases. And I am certain that the 643,858 who died didn’t die with a smile on their face knowing they won the death lottery by not beating the 1.6% odds.
I know fear drives this political animal, but we should not just dismiss 643,858 deaths as if it is just a number that computes to a low % and those deaths don’t matter.
My sister died of Covid and my best friend died of covid and I could not visit either or even attend their funerals, so I find no comfort in knowing that they were one of only 1.6% who died.
I do not buy the actions that have been taken by the Nazis to enslave us over this virus. And they need to be tried for murder. Especially since my sister and best friend could have been saved with HCQ or Ivermectin. My friend did not have co-morbidities and was hospitalized for 3 weeks and died in the hospital.
No one is dismissing anything. What happened to the people you love was not right. And you not being able to even go to their funeral isn’t right either. Especially when at the time George Floyd got 3 packed funerals. We have to keep things is perspective. Many of us feel as if we were and are being lied to and manipulated, just you mentioning you were not able to visit, or attend a funeral IS MANIPULATION.
It’s horrible. You are not alone in that agony. Many of us have traveled that road and many more to follow….
I am so sorry for your loss. That is heartbreaking.
I wish there was more open discussion about two things that appear to lower people chances from getting out of the hospitals- no early treatment (they wait until your lips are blue!) and Remdesivir (causes kidney failure, sepsis, fluid in the lungs and multi organ failure). It appears if you combine Remdesivir with intubation- this is even worse…. don’t let your loved ones get in this position if you can help it. Make sure your doctor or hospital can administer monoclonal antibodies (Regeneron) early on if there are any comorbidities and that people know you do not want Remdesivir in the hospital!
Yes, that and I hear Decadron/ dexamethasone is the WRONG steroid, it has to be methylprednisolone. Also need a budesonide nebulizer.
Sorry for your loss.
God rest their souls.
my deepest condolences on your losses. very difficult.
there IS “covid”, likely a weaponized version, released intentionally or unintentionally, which has been co-opted (or designed) for political purposes.
there is a fine line to be tread here to asses the political purposes of covid and yet compassionately acknowledge the cruelty of the needless deaths associated with it and the pain inflicted on the loved ones of those who died without visits from family being “allowed”.
yes, there is inflation of statistics (i think my state is approaching more “reported cases” than there are residents!); and yes, a “positive test” is not diagnostic for covid per se, nor does it indicate a patient is symptomatic – at all – which leads to healthy skepticism.
but to diminish the deaths of those who did pass away prematurely from this virus and the hideous mismanagement of treatment that persists to this day, by labeling the whole thing a “scam” is highly inappropriate.
i lost the most important person in the world to me because of this debacle. it hurts.
so, i concentrate on information that illuminates WHO is behind this, WHERE was it done, WHO funded it, WHY was there no oversight, you know, the kind of answers that let me adjust my prayers accordingly at night….
take care and be well.
I’m so sorry for your loss as well! I really do believe those who died of this, DID die prematurely, as you say.
I will say, I will not mock it. The Left loves to point out those who mocked the virus, and then their deaths. Like the Texas City Councilman, who died 5 days after a post on facebook, mocking the virus as a hoax. Then the radio show host, who also mocked the virus, even put out a song, “Vaxman”. Supposedly, his brother says he had said he should have gotten the vaccine. I believe their protocol killed him, they don’t treat it right at all, but apparently he did take ivermectin sometime into it before hospitalization, which is scary, but also it was probably the previous dosage. FLCCC doctors have upped it. That’s scary if you don’t take enough, if the virus really is that strong as they say.
I really do believe they are purposely mismanaging this virus, as well as the money incentive, and after all evidence of effective treatment.
I’m so sorry, that is really terrible. The other thing, I heard that Remdesivir can actually worsen symptoms and practically guarantee a vent, let alone hurt organs.
Let me tell you what has bothered me throughout all the pandemic, before when people actually thought it was a hoax and just a flu.
First of all, this was created in a lab, so it is not a natural flu. I don’t know about all these previous flu deaths either, but I do know of people have died of Covid. But most people do not expect to die from a regular flu.
The one thing that bothered me is that whenever someone here reported a death, the first question out of someone’s mouth was, “Did they have any underlying conditions?”
Well, some of those “underlying conditions” can be quite managed without Covid. But the way it was asked was almost like, well, they were meant to die. And they would insinuate that maybe they died of their underlying conditions, like diabetes, or hypertension.
Come on! Any of those, among other things, a regular flu can probably be managed.
This is a nasty virus that they did sic on us.
So, I am a little overweight, I have hyperlipidemia, I have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease but it’s still okay for now. If I get Covid and die of it, do you really think I was meant to die of my underlying conditions at this time?
I don’t know why people constantly asked that as if they didn’t believe they died of Covid, or that somehow they were meant to die at that time, too bad for them.
I remember the neighbors at the family lake place, her uncle died of Covid summer of ’20. She said, he was a little overweight, had a “little sugar” but diet managed, early 60’s. He went into the ER near end of June that year, he tested negative. Three days later back in ER tested positive and given steroids. Then he went back in quick, told his children on the phone, last time he could talk, “I’ve had the flu, but this is the absolute worst sickness I have ever had and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.” His niece, the neighbor, said, they never intubated him, maybe they tried HCQ, I don’t know, but they did keep him in prone position. But he passed only a few days later, alone.
I know of other deaths, both parents of a childhood friend of my husband’s. An elderly brother of a friend of my deceased parents’. His daughter had flu like symptoms, his wife only had a headache, but he had to go to the hospital.
So, one never knows how or why some people get very sick, and some don’t, even in those supposed high risk ages, as well as those dying in very low risk ages, some with NO underlying conditions. Some deaths were inexplicable.
I’m very sorry again for the loss of your sister and best friend. I’m sure your grief is great. I feel all the lives lost were needless. This was a bioweapon and it’s made worse by either lack of or inappropriate treatment. God rest all their souls.
There needs to be justice, I hope it’s not when we’re all dead, but God is the final judge on what’s happening.
I remember early on a poster here reported her niece died of Covid, this was in the midst of most people acting like it was a hoax and there was an unspoken code of conduct we really shouldn’t disturb that mindset. She mentioned it, and then she said I will never talk of it again here.
I know I talk very much against the vaccines, but I do hope the vaccinated people here know I wish them the very best and I’m sorry that sometimes I forget that some are vaccinated when I go off about the vaccines. I’m sure they feel just as disturbed about that as I did about dismissing underlying conditions. I hope no one gets hurt, but there is hope for treatment on long Covid and it might also apply to any vaccine adverse effects.
nailed it.
thank you very much for your post, kaco.
your good sense and kind heart show through every word.
Kaco, that was the best sympathy for the covid victims I have heard from anyone. Thank you for explaining it so very well.
I do not take the covid virus lightly, but I do think it has been weaponized against us. Never let a crisis go to waste comes to mind. There is so much wrong with this whole pandemic and the way it has been used against us. The forced vaccine on everyone is Nazis doing what Nazis do.
I personally know others who have died from the china/fauchi virus and I know many who suffered from it but survived. It is a real virus, but could have been managed and treated such that it could have been no worse than pneumonia which can be deadly for the elderly and those with co-morbidities . But at least pneumonia is treated early by doctors, whereas China/fauchi virus is not until too late and then the treatment is malpractice.
I know God said Vengence is Mine, and I believe Him, but Oh, how I would love it if He would just let us see some of it now.
Mask announcement on the beach
And they are walking right past her without masks.
My husband gets patients who are covid positive that come to the office wanting to be tested every 3-4 days because their doctors tell them to get tested every so many days until they get a negative. Our neighbor said that her daughters family (5 people) all had COVID and were told to be tested every 4 days until they are Negative. So my question is, if a family of 5 have Covid and are getting tested every 4 days, does the CDC count them as positive each time, meaning 5 covid positives become 10 covid positives, then 15 covid positives. You should not be tested again to see if your negative for at least 10 days, although some say 7. The number of cases would probably much lower than reported if covid positive patients wouldn’t keep going back to be tested before the virus runs it course. Also, my nephew is a pediatrician and most kids hospitalized are not hospitalized for COVID, they are hospitalized for other problems unrelated to covid, even though they might test positive. It’s not COVID that brought them to the hospital like the CDC wants people to believe. My husband was seeing about 20-25 positive covid patients a day here in Orlando, but it has dropped considerably over the past two weeks. Since Covid started, he has only had to send a handful of patients to the hospital(under 10 patients), none died, thank God and most were only hospitalized for a day or two.
That is a very interesting question about how repeated positive tests for the same person may be counted.
One among so many sick things that have unfolded since China unleashed a bio-weapon upon the world is the life of old people, and especially those who live in nursing homes. Such a life is already very hard, but now, thanks to truly demonic edicts, this population has been forced to endure inhumane treatment that no civilized society should even consider. The lack of contact with loved ones has been like torture. And nursing homes, which are already often understaffed and/or staffed with low skill workers who may or may not treat the residents with the respect they deserve, are now incredibly understaffed. As a result, care is even more compromised and, among other things, more and more residents are sedated all day long. What kind of society does this to the oldest of the old, the frailest of the frail??? Then again, we allow doctors to suck out developing babies from the womb in order to rid the woman of the nuisance, so there’s that.
Very sad, and it makes me cry. My husband and I both discussed how it was a blessing now that my father died in ’19 and did not have to suffer alone in his dementia in the memory care unit. He probably would have forgotten us and I never wanted him to feel alone. How awful! I have already heard of dying parents, some some not even from Covid, and not being allowed to have visitors.
I watched that Kim Dalley show episode, the one how she got her husband out of ICU in three days, she got around that rule, and explained it in her video and in her notes on her website. She did all of us a favor in documenting this for reference for us.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/12/the-us-is-nearing-immunity-from-covid-19?utm_source=messages&utm_campaign=android_nyp
I was afraid in the beginning of this plandemic. A lot of people posted good info, especially Dr. Zelenko and Dr. Marik with the Eastern Virginia School of Medicine.
I started getting more confident, and when the mask mandate stopped here in Ohio, I took mine off in the stores and such also. I still wonder if I got some vaccine shedding from it based on other issues that have developed.
I was still feeling good, thought the Delta was a scam, that is until I checked into the Frontline Covid Critical Care doctors and saw the tweet by Pierre Kory saying how the ivermectin was not working against the Delta variant and that they were demoralized. I had always planned on taking their protocol into the hospital in hopes that they would follow it.
Sometime before that tweet, I decided I best get my own supply of ivermectin and did through the America’s Frontline doctors.
Well, since then, I’ve found out my primary care doctor will not even read about the FLCCC doctors info, my old primary doctor told me to not give myself anything to prevent or treat Covid. And I’ve heard a few times from early summer to now that Cleveland Clinic doctors say there is no treatment for Covid.
So, now I am frightened. I have no Frontline doctor near me, my husband would have to drive me to a Dayton hospital to get treatment, and God forbid, if I have to drive him considering my anxiety issues.
Listening to the FLCCC doctors saying we have to treat FIRST day of symptoms or else. That the Delta moves fast as it gets into the cells quicker.
I’m not into mask mandates but I have now resorted to wearing an n-95 in public indoor only, and that is to protect ME, not you. And I only wear it for a limited time.
My school district has mandated masks. I don’t think they should for the younger grades, though.
I am worried my youngest teen son will bring Covid back from school. We get a daily report of all the high school students that have Covid.
The reason I am worried is because of what I described above. Same thing if I lived in Australia where they banned ivermectin. There is no one here to properly treat this early and with the right medicines. We are on our own. God help us.
It really is a crime against humanity.
There was never a need for a vaccine.
Kaco, I think you posted some similar sentiments recently and I wondered then, as now, why you don’t find a doctor from the FLCCC site so you can have some piece of mind that you have someone in your corner to treat you if necessary. Also, remember that even the FLCCC protocols now use Regenron, so don’t get overly focused on someone who will treat with IVM. If you have a primary care doctor that you normally use, perhaps you could call their office and ask what their treatment protocol is. I have the impression that Regeneron has become a standard of care in many places now.
Also, if I recall correctly, you did contact one of the docs on the FLCCC list but she’s no longer listed and had some kind of very niche specialty anyway. But there are many, many doctors on that list and you could do a bit of vetting online to see what their area of expertise is, reviews, etc. It might go a long way to giving you some piece of mind. And you have so many options now because you can have a Teledoc appt so the doctor doesn’t need to be geographically close to you.
The fact that you’re stocking up on relevant supplies is great and maybe you can take heart in that, as well. Anxiety is a bear. It makes difficult things so much harder. I always wish you well and hope you can find some corner of peace amidst all the swirls around us….
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/
Regeneron (monoclonal antibodies) are FDA approved. If you have any comorbidities (like your anxiety), you should be able to qualify for getting it quickly. Have a discussion with your doctor to ease some of your worries. I’m sorry you are suffering, people like Fauci are inflicting many with so much worry- it’s really criminal.
Thank you, Carrie and also for your words posted to me above! I will pursue this and will try to find out ahead of time, from some doctor.
Thanks, Sarah, there is no one in the vicinity on that list, but I did send an email to someone in Lancaster.
I called someone in Columbus and talked to his receptionist for a while. Apparently, he had been taken off the list, this is through the AAPSonline list. She said it’s because how they are now threatening doctor’s licenses on the ivermectin. Maybe I’ll call back about the Regeneron, if I and my husband can set up to get a future script if needed and get infused or injected up here. It was good talking to that receptionist, she knows about all we do here, and she also said how they even saw how the ivermectin worked.
Thanks for the suggestion!
You’re welcome, Kaco. But, again, you don’t need to have someone in the vicinity. Doctors are treating patients from very far away via Teledoc appts. That’s why when you see the places they treat patients, many docs list nearly every state in the country.
You might find this interesting.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/how_to_prepare_for_covid_and_how_not_to.html
I’m wearing n95s only
Made in America.
https://wisconsinmedicalsupplies.com/usa-ppe-masks-shields/p/n95-masks-made-in-usa-niosh-approved/
Thanks, Sarah, for that link you posted to me before! I had purchased 10, not cheap. I spray it down with Lysol when done ,so to use them more than once!
Do not do that. Wetting an N95 masks reduces its efficacy greatly.
If you’re wearing an N95 all day long (which would be very hard to do since they have no exhaust valve like N95 contractor masks and since such a valve would render it pointless from a covid perspective), throw it out when finished.
If you’re only wearing it for short periods while running errands, etc, keep your masks in rotation and re-use them a few times before throwing them away.
Have an out of the way place to hang them (out of the sunshine) and have a system for notating when you took them off. The virus only lives on surfaces for a few days, so after waiting about 3 days, you can re-use the mask. Technically, you could re-use it immediately because when putting it on and off you should avoid handling the exterior (since that is what you must presume is contaminated), so if you do that, no problem. But if you want to avoid that concern, just hang the mask up in a rotation system and use it again after a few days (being careful to avoid touching the exterior as much as possible, anyway, as good habit.
Like with other goods, the more of those masks you buy, the price per mask goes down, but only slightly. As you say, they are not cheap. But that’s also relative to how much it’s worth to you beyond the cost of money.
Anyway: Do not wet your mask!
Here a link about how to sanitize these kinds of masks. I doubt any are doable for individuals as we’re not set up w/the proper equipment:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/85982
Of course, you can always call the company that sells them and ask their guidance, as well.
Above in this thread ANXIETY was noted as the second most common co-morbidity.
Kaco, suggest you get away from this topic for awhile and calm down.
Live your best life tend to your life and family rather than fixating on COVID.
Most of all, be well and be strong.
The best medicine is to be healthy of mind, spirit, and body to face any threats.
Thank you lurker, that post was to me by Carrie, and I will check it out. I just want to be prepared, and that has really stressed me out.
I did take a break for a while and it did help calm the nerves. I will do so again, after some more prep work.
I regularly visit
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
and ivermectin has been a constant in their protocols since replacing HCQ.
I wonder what would have caused Dr. Kory to express concern about ivermectin. Might it have been a fraudulent “study” he had encountered?
You might not see this, it is because the Delta gets into the cells quicker and replicates faster. It wasn’t working well because they found it was too low of a dose for this variant. Now they have doubled the dose for active Covid and increased the frequency of prophylactic. You should see the difference on there. They also say that you must treat as soon as possible as it replicates quickly, according to what they see in the field. They also mentioned many of their patients start off with GI symptoms.
Never let a crisis go to waste
When there is no problem, create one
Has the Biden blimp crashed to the ground yet?
It’s aflame
This is the guy…
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/571902-fauci-says-he-would-support-vaccine-requirements-for-air-travel
Fauci also doubled down on his support for student vaccine mandates, contending that such an inoculation policy is in place for other diseases.
“When you hear us say should you mandate vaccination for children to be able to attend school, some people say, ‘Oh, my goodness. That would be terrible to do that.’ But we already do that and have been doing that for decades and decades,” said President Biden’s chief medical adviser.
“I don’t know what school you went to, but the school that I went to, you had to be vaccinated for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, or otherwise you couldn’t go to school,” he continued.
He said vaccination mandates for schoolchildren are “not something new,” adding that vaccines are “the solution that we have at our hands.”
Yeah, I heard that the other day, but this is not the same as those vaccines AT ALL. The other ones provided immunity, and they were not mRNA therapy in which all the animals tested for this type of therapy DIED and that for this particular therapy, NO animal testing was done.
The Evidence For Ivermectin And COVID-19
https://rumble.com/vmf2bo-the-evidence-for-ivermectin-and-covid-19.html
Outbreak at Duke too
Duke University….bastion of stupidity…..the evidence for natural immunity over the gene therapies continues to mount and is simply overwhelming……if you can find it….just amazed at the constant doubling down on stupid.
I once attended a Reagan rally hosted by The Rifleman, Chuck Connors at my university. Just saw they have an open position for some LBGTQXRZ Studies professorship…..
And many students will take out huge debt to be awarded a Participation Certificate in LBGTetc Studies are certain to be in high demand when seeking high paying careers.
Duke…my conservative, Football Captain, Eagle Scout son went there and came out a ranting leftist. Pure indoctrination.
I’d love to have that $200k and my son back…
Same story here in Canada. I hardly recognize the boy who went off to University a few years ago.
Almost cult-like in his personality change.
It’s funny. My son refused to go to a similar school. He’d overcome much bc of dyslexia/teachers who wanted him to fit in. He was not a son that anyone envied me academically even when he overcame his troubles and landed on Dean’s list.
He said he would rather put money into businesses.
We pushed him but couldn’t wholeheartedly push the debt. So we just said,’we love you. We’ll support you anyway we can.’ and crossed our fingers.
He’s firmly conservative, has a couple fledgling small businesses and we are grateful everyday for him. For a young man, his ambition and confidence are amazing.
I’m not boasting, I’m perhaps suggesting that universities aren’t the answer for every young person with ambition.
His friends who got degrees are at home now too and now looking at adding more debt with further degrees.
It was difficult to trust his judgement. We would still like him to have a degree for back up but now, I think if he went to uni, he wouldn’t be easily led.
He wants his degree now but will not ever be vaccinated thus it’s his businesses for him. His path is unconventional. Whose has been perfect? Trust your child if they have misgivings about liberal education.
Debt and liberal predators vs small businesses.
I agree – unless your goal is a medical, nursing, OT, PT, PharmD, JD, etc., find a trade school, a community college that has associate degree programs in real occupations. Thank God all my kids went to college before all universities became full-fledged liberal cesspools. Mine are strongly conservative, hard-working, and honorable adults. What a waste of money – and time – to get a degree in social justice, etc. If you need a degree to qualify for necessary licensure, then you have no choice but to go to school.
I attended Duke, more than once — no comments on why. Each time it was much more insanely liberal than the previous. In subsequent visits it has gone completely off the rails.
Even back in the day, professors that were honest, would, have to look over their shoulder, close the door, and go, now we can talk.
Insofar as this current madness, Duke was growing brain cells onto small microchips a generation ago — think of the possible outcomes.
When I “lived” in Madison, WI, in the early 90s, several members of our conservative church sent their kids to the U and were shocked- shocked! – to find them indoctrinated in leftism. I wasn’t shocked.
I feel your pain, I lost a daughter to college and the internet
Many have. Even younger.
“We called the police because she wrecked her room and hit her mom… all because we took her phone,” Kelly’s father explained.”
-The Tech Industry’s War on Kids
-How psychology is being used as a weapon against children
https://medium.com/@richardnfreed/the-tech-industrys-psychological-war-on-kids-c452870464ce
I’m sorry. I wish for your son back too.
Are these covid cases or are they vaccine injuries? Are the tests accurate? Remember, more cases equals more money. More positives tests equals more oppression and restrictions. Those pushing the politicization of this flu bug have every reason to lie about everything and make it look as bad as possible.
Oh, noes. Those poor kids have the sniffles. They’re going to miss class. And recover in about a week.
Fake PCR and fake Rapid Response tests are why so many positive results from day one
Exactly. And early therapeutics intentionally withheld accounted for 90 percent of the deaths that did take place in the one percent of the population at risk.
“Cases.” Meaning, a bunch of students have a cold. Which they will recover from in about a week.
The chance of a positive coronavirus test being a true positive is only about 20%. 80% will be false positive.”
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/
Per person who invented the PCR test. Said don’t use it.
TOTAL CASES (US): 40,048,255 times 20% could have, actually, been infected or 8,009,651 have any chance of having the virus for all age groups. Based on the total deaths above of 643,858. This should mean that 8 percent of those identified with the COVID virus from the PCR test will die from it.
Wouldn’t the same 20% reduction factor also apply to the number of deaths?
The proverbial “Elephant in the room.” that many people are pretending is not there.