Thursday April 9th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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110 Responses to Thursday April 9th – Open Thread

  1. citizen817 says:

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  3. Whistling_Past says:

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  4. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The Great Deceiver

    By Pastor Paul M. Sadler

    “Woe unto him that giveth his neighbor drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken.” —Habakkuk 2:15

    There are many passages in the Word of God, such as the above reference, that are timeless principles. While the alcohol industry goes to great lengths to get people to believe that drinking is a harmless way to have a good time, the facts are otherwise. It is very careful never to advertise the alcoholic who is dying of cirrhosis of the liver or the homes that have been destroyed by strong drink. And of course, there’s always a voice in the crowd that says a few social drinks will never hurt anyone. Most recovering alcoholics, however, tell a much different story of how their slide into a life of drunkenness all started with social drinking.

    “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise” (Prov. 20:1).

    Many years ago, I was driving through Apollo, Pennsylvania, where I saw a mangled piece of wreckage alongside of the road. Upon slowing down, I discovered it was an automobile, or at least what was left of it. Apparently someone survived the crash because there were beer cans strategically placed beside the car with a sign, which read, “And they told us we were going to have fun!” Someone lied.

    Contrary to the world’s view that alcoholism is a disease, the Word of God calls drunkenness a sin (Gal. 5:19-21). Excessive drinking is not a disease; it is a matter of choice. Although some drunkards overcome their addiction through programs such as Alcoholics Anonymous, apart from faith, all too often they return to their drinking ways when confronted with a crisis. The world’s answer to the problems of this life is, “I need a drink.” However, the answer is not found in the bottom of a bottle. The answer is a personal relationship with Christ!

    Everyone reading these lines has a family member, a dear friend, or a neighbor who struggles with this temptation. Yes, even believers wrestle with this sin, as Paul makes very clear:

    “Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness….But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof” (Rom. 13:12-14).

    The best thing we can do for those who grapple with this addiction is to show them our love and support. It is important to share with them that they are dead to this sin in Christ and therefore, it doesn’t have to control their life any longer. Since alcoholism is such a deeply seated problem, encourage them to search out a godly pastor or Christian counselor who can assist them in a better understanding of Romans, Chapter 6.

    Habakkuk 2:15 Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!

    Pr 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

    Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
    13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
    14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

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  5. Lucille says:

    Happy Cursday From Sunrise to Sunset…

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  6. TreeClimber says:

    An update on Baby Beckham, Taylor’s little boy with cancer…

    They had to delay his third round of chemo, due to a bit of a concern after the second round. However he got it today, and she says that he’s not letting it get him down! He’s still running around and happy as ever! (There’s a picture of him standing up in the window, it’s a high floor with a stunning view of Downtown Charleston and environs.) Continuing prayers are always appreciated.

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  7. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Cursday!

    I took Nellie on a last walk before we went to bed. We walked down the paved road that fronted the motel, then I let her go to investigate a patch of grass. She was lazy and docile, tired from a day wading in the water. A few snowflakes began to fall. When she came back to me, I put her on the leash again and waited awhile in the darkness. You could see a long way. Snowflakes pulled each other down out the sky like white spiders softly dipping onto grass.

    —From Home Waters by Joseph Monninger

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  8. Magabear says:

    Really tragic situation that NHL player Colby Cave is going thru. For any of you prayer warriors out there, he and his family could sure use the prayers.

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  9. republicanvet91 says:

    Anyone else think it is ChiCom-like to just assume a death is COVID related? I hope this vile deception about the numbers of deaths is called out and damn soon. The left everywhere cheers them on as if they can drive the numbers high enough to be above a normal flu season, it will make everything they have done correct. In my opinion, it is despicable to try and fudge the numbers, and further, doing it for an agenda.

    How can they, or anyone complain about the ChiComs lying when there are so many here that want to deceive on the actual deaths from the ChiCom19?

    I don’t make any excuses for those lying b@st@rds in China, and we should not be telling the same lies.

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    • annieoakley says:

      Like x 1,000.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      I suspect China is lying the other way.

      Shot for telling the truth about the wuflu, not a COVID-19 death.
      Welded into apartment and starved to death because you have the chicom flu, not a COVID-19 death.
      Die from batsoup flu with a comorbidity, not a COVID-19 death.
      Suffering from hangnail while dying of COVID-19, not a COVID-19 death.

      Lying differently, but lying nonetheless.

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  10. Beverly says:

    Friends, if you are diagnosed with the China Flu, I caution you to be careful whom you tell. Neighbors (leftists, naturally) in my apartment building are militating against allowing anyone who has Recovered from this thing and is virus-FREE should nevertheless STILL be kept under house arrest, and not allowed out for any reason at all.

    Permanent stigma, permanently “unclean”: and anyone who objects is shouted down as “wanting to KILL everyone in the building!”

    It’s getting crazy here. So, yeah, take the precautions out of neighborliness, but remember: any lefties in your vicinity will be all over your backside if they find out you’ve had The Thing. And they don’t listen to reason, and they don’t care what the doctor/hospital/CDC say about when it’s safe to emerge from quarantine, even after 14 days.

    FYI: the CDC says if you haven’t had a fever for 3 days or more, you’re no longer shedding virus.If you self-quarantine for 14 days after diagnosis, you should be doubly safe to emerge. But the hysterics will argue with you — so just don’t tell them.

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      Good advice. Stay safe.

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    • Bob says:

      Must be all the Joe Biden voters that pull that crap?

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      • Beverly says:

        Lefties, generally. Their whole outlook on life is that everyone should bow to their FEELINGS, and to heck with the FACTS.

        I left my apartment today at long last, after scrupulously observing the 14-day quarantine. Wore a mask even though I’m not shedding virus (I’ll concede that much to their hysteria).

        It was creepy out in the NYC streets. The only people for miles around were delivery folks, mostly nonwhite males, and Everyone is now wearing face masks. ALL the stores were closed: it’s like the silence before a hurricane is about to make landfall, but there’s no storm. . . .


  11. Garrison Hall says:

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      Wow, is is this informative! Thanks for posting. This is something everyone should read. If you get sick and are in the hospital DON’T let them put you on a ventilator! As this post says save your lungs and insist on staying on 100 percent oxygen instead!

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      • Ray Runge says:

        AND this is the pathophysiologic tidbit that describes the RBC inability to hold the O2 versus any suspected lung D / Z.. HCQ cocktail relieves this particular RBC defect in short amount of time.

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      • martyb59 says:

        BTW: I sent this link to my sisters, through Face Book messenger and FB took it down! WTF is going on here? Has FB determined that they are medical scientists and they control all medical related conversations?


    • jbt says:

      Thank you, Marty. This event is a good opportunity for many to get the science education now that has been sorely lacking in school these past decades.


    • JC says:

      Marty – excellent article! Thank you so much for posting this.

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  12. citizen817 says:

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    • mandy says:

      Look at that plateful of traditional Jewish Passover foods. It’s right there!

      THE EGG!

      The use of eggs to celebrate Pascha/Easter is NOT a ‘pagan’ thing, as we are often told by Christ haters at this time of year. The early Christians were converts from the ancient Jewish tradition – and they brought the tradition of the egg with them!

      This is why St. Mary Magdalene had the eggs with her! And from there, we get our tradition of dyed eggs at Pascha/Easter!

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  13. Dora says:

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  14. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day for Thursday, April 9, 2020

    “…If God be for us, who can be against us?”
    Romans 8:31 (KJV)

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  15. just stevie says:


    “After that He appeared in another form unto two of them.” Mark xvi. 12

    Being saved and seeing Jesus are not the same thing. Many are partakers of God’s grace who have never seen Jesus. When once you have seen Jesus, you can never be the same, other things do not appeal as they used to do.

    Always distinguish between what you see Jesus to be, and what He has done for you. If you only know what He has done for you, you have not a big enough God; but if you have had a vision of Jesus as He is, experiences can come and go, you will endure “as seeing Him Who is invisible.” The man blind from his birth did not know Who Jesus was until He appeared and revealed Himself to him. Jesus appears to those for whom He has done something; but we cannot dictate when He will come. Suddenly at any turn He may come. “Now I see Him!”

    Jesus must appear to your friend as well as to you, no one can see Jesus with your eyes. Severance takes place where one and not the other has seen Jesus. You cannot bring your friend unless God brings him. Have you seen Jesus? Then you will want others to see Him too. “And they went and told it unto the residue, neither believed they them.” You must tell, although they do not believe.

    “O could I tell, ye surely would believe it!
    O could I only say what I have seen!
    How should I tell or how can ye receive it,
    How, till He bringeth you where I have been?”

    Oswald Chambers
    April 9th Devotional

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  16. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  17. Sepp says:

    The Prayer of Saint Ephraim of Syria

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  18. @ChicagoBri says:

    How the 17th Amendment Led to the Loss of US Senate and Liberty

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  19. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  20. Neo says:

    I wonder if the FBI is looking at this …

    In the early hours of Monday morning, Joe Biden’s campaign sent an email to state leaders offering to connect them with desperately needed coronavirus resources.
    In the email obtained by The Post, Biden’s political chief of staff Stacy Eichner told state officials that the former veep’s presidential campaign had received a “significant number of offers” from organizations and people eager to offer resources.

    … connected ? …

    Ellwood City Medical Center in Pennsylvania, which is currently controlled by a court-appointed bankruptcy trustee, was one of a string of rural hospitals owned by and driven into financial ruin by Americore Health, a business venture linked to James Biden.

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  21. Dora says:


    • Sentient says:

      That chart has been debunked multiple times. The purported drop in pneumonia in 2020 results from a lag in reporting every year. Somewhere I saw a GIF of how each year’s reported pneumonia deaths start off low and rise to roughly match the prior years, but I can’t find it. In the meantime, this might suffice:

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    • czarowniczy says:

      The hospital gets to call the cause of death and it’s not unusual for hospitals to do so in their own best interests. There has been a number of reports done at intervals on the issue over the last 30-40 years but it’s a convoluted issue and a 3rd rail to boot.

      Deaths from auto accidents, shootings, stabbings are easy to call but if someone with a heart condition and something like COVID-19 comes in and dies it’s easier to call the death as from the virus as to say it was due to heart failure might effect the hospital’s cardiac stats. Sort of like how were a vet with a severe combat related disability come into a VA hospital with COVID-19 and die. The VA’s going to look at calling it as a purely COVID death as the vet’s widow wouldn’t be eligible for the Dependency and Indemnity Compensation payment and any money the VA con prevent being paid out is a plus for them.

      It’s a game as to cause of death and right now it’s easier and beneficial to blame every death the agencies can on the COVID-19. It’s a numbers and status game that’s being driven by politics and business decisions as much as anything else and until someone way up there standardizes and codifies exactly how to call a cause of death with someone who dies while COVID infected we’re grasping at subjective straws.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I spent 15 years with the Feds in health insurance and if you’re in the hospital expect to get the living crap monetized out of you. I sat with my son in the hospital for his transplant and documented his stint, his insurance was billed for things he didn’t get (“whoops, how’d THAT get on there, must have been a mistake in billing.”) and got a few things he didn’t need (billed for a haircut?). It’s ALL about money.

          If a hospital can bill for a better paying condition – watch out. It’s like how primary care physicians try to work more issues into your office visits as if they can find something ‘new’ or work up something with a preexisting condition they can change their visit’s billing codes and charge the carrier more. I never knew I had so many things wrong with me or needed so many tests until I switched to a PCP with a clinic that belonged to a hospital group.

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          • Jim in TN says:

            Clinics also perform many of their own tests. Why let someone else profit from your patient. And yes, expect most of the tests you are told you need routinely to be tests done in house.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              My PCP corporate isn’t happy I use a local hospital to do tests instead of my driving 40 miles one way to them but after I said that if they’ll give me a letter saying they wanted me to do that and explain exactly why in writing they demured. They ain’t that stoooopid.


  22. trapper says:

    The pope is just another third world crackpot. The Chinese virus is nature’s revenge for us not signing on to the crackpot man made global warming nonsense? What a dope. How can anyone listen to anything he says after this bit of buffoonery? Either that or just another China stooge.

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  23. Rah says:

    80+ mph winds at my place in Indiana last night. Strong and sustained enough it blew the lumber out of the Menards yard blocking HWY 109. Lumber everywhere I understand.

    I have a couple miles of open farm field to my West and north west so the winds can get pretty fierce.

    Of course I’m in PA. Wife said it was the worst she had experienced since we moved there in 2001. Scared her. Got power back this morning. Lots of limbs down but no damage to the house or garage apparently.

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  24. Dora says:


  25. Sentient says:

    Interesting article arguing that, while the Chinese Communist Party is at fault for lying, the assertion that SARS-CoV2 escaped from the Wuhan lab (much less was “engineered” there) is a purposeful distraction from the more likely explanation that it arose from the bizarre and unsanitary dietary practices of the Chinese people – which would exist even without the CCP! The “it’s not the people, it’s the party” line is espoused by the same Conservative, Inc. people who champion unfettered immigration and global trade.


    • Rah says:

      The particular bat species from which they say this virus emerged is found in the wild no closer than about 400 miles from the city of Wuhan.


    • trapper says:

      Either way you go, it’s still the Chinese virus. Either the Chinese are incapable of maintaining a dangerous lab and can’t be allowed to ever again have one, or culturally they are backward and primitive, living in the 7th Century despite their cell phone factories, and can’t be trusted with anything.

      High tech engineers and biologists leave work, either at the level 4 lab or at the Apple plant, and on their way home stop at a disgustingly filthy market to kill a dog or cat or little armadillo thing to being home to eat for dinner. Any way you cut it, theirs is a culture of savages. And if anyone challenges you on this, all you need to reply is : forced abortions.


  26. Shelley Childs says:


    Traditionally you will find a combination of leek, watercress, chives, sorrel, parsley, spinach, dill, and dandelion greens used in this soup. However, arugula, kale, celery greens, tarragon, or chervil could also be used.

    Go ahead and grab any combination of herbs and greens that sounds appealing to you, using roughly 1 cup (or one large handful) of each.

    But, make sure you include seven as a reminder of the last seven words of Jesus as he hung on the cross.

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  27. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Just wondering for a friend. Since the governors across the country are closing down K-12 schools for the rest of the year does that mean that homeowners will get a proportional property tax reduction since the state system isn’t doing its job? We need to tax your home, it’s for the children!”

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    • paper doll says:

      The new Dem world order is you keep paying for no school , no police ( unless you are caught walking) no courts….maybe they will pick up your trash…


    • Bendix says:

      I know a poor guy, a divorced father. His kid comes home from staying with Mom, he hasn’t done any of his schoolwork.
      This isn’t frivolous homework, it is the only educating the kid is receiving, so it matters.
      The teachers are getting a paid vacation, the parents are doing their job, and it is creating problems in the home.


  28. johnd500000 says:

    Thank you for this post and the Holy Thursday post.


  29. czarowniczy says:

    For those of you considering a post-COVID gastronome’s tour of exotic Chinese cuisine you might want to write the city of Shenzhen off your list:

    Might want to tell Whoopie she can stop shilling for the Chinese, they’re owning the pandemic.

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  30. Right to reply says:

    Who the hell is breeding these Democrats? Newsome is now giving cash to illegals!


  31. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the Lord Jesus in death:

    1. How He, who had raised the dead, hung a lifeless body on the Cross.
    2. How He died for us, that we might have more life, and more truth about immortal life.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau).

    Today is March 27th on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church and April 9th on the current civil calendar.

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    • Sepp says:

      On weekdays during Great Lent in the Orthodox Church, most of the daily readings from the Holy Scriptures are from the Book of the Holy Prophet Isaias / Isaiah and from the Book of Genesis and from the Book of Proverbs.

      On Saturdays and the Lord’s Day, the readings are from the New Testament.

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  32. Milllwright says:

    From the ” Murphey’s Law” files :
    MN Senator Dr. Scott Jensen just let the cat into the pidgeon coop when he revealed receiving instructions the CDC and other health agencies are pushing the Covid-19 diagnosis by upping the Medicare ante for patient admissions to $13K and tripling that ( $39K) if they’re put on a ventilator ! And we woncder why no one trusts our medical organizations and agencies ? Italy, revisiting its Carona fatalities, finds significant numbers of misattributed CODs. How many here suffered the same mistake now driving the national lockdown being imposed across much of the country ?

    Ever notice how the most restrictive “emergency restrictions ” on the public’s movement, social activity, work, and access to medical, grocery and ordiinary living supplies are being imposed in blue states and cities ?

    The Democrat Republik of NJ’s Chairman – errrr – Governor has not only demanded all business report their stocks of PPE ( personal protective equipment ), on 4/8 it restricted citizens’ access to food by limiting grocery stores to 50% capacity of masked individuals only ! Last week VT required its big box stores remove all “non-essential” items ( aka recreational items like books, electronics, building and remodeling supplies, etc ) from their shelves . And in the PDRCA at least one sheriff is claiming powers to arrest anyone seen out without a mask, or engaged in non-essential outdoor activities like solo surfing, biking, hiking, fishing etc ) .

    Leave to the nations’ Progressive-Elites ( aka our betters ) to seize any opportunity to seek to impose their will/rules upon the rest of us . The same folks conniving millions for the JFK Art Center while laying off employees, or earmarking hundreds of millions for illegals while our veterans are increasingly going homeless and lack food and medial care. The same people releasing felons and pedophiles from prisons and jails while closing gun and ammunition stores.

    Murphey sure works overtime !


  33. Patty in Porterville says:

    I have been trying to contact my congressman, Kevin McCarthy, for several days now. I fill out the email form on his website and hit submit. It then tells me the requested page could not be found. He is not answering his Washington number or any of his district phones. Is anyone else having this problem?


  34. dogsmaw says:

    Starship – Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now


  35. mandy says:

    Edict from on high for MI residents?

    Click to access EO%202020-42.pdf


  36. Sepp says:

    The Vlad Tepes Blog has a sticky post on the scientific aspects of this virus being a bio-weapon.

    There are a number of other news items that are worth checking.


  37. The Enemy

    The Weapon

    Beyond The Night

    The Battle Is Won


  38. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name we pray.

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  39. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  40. NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

    Norway calls out Sweden’s approach to the Winnie The Xi Wuhan strategery. Open v close v unknown = Just live.


    • NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

      Yale has an online course on happiness. Singapore minister shares what he “learned.”

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  41. dogsmaw says:


  42. Sepp says:

    An Orthodox Prayer for Deliverance from COVID-19

    O God Almighty, Lord of Heaven and earth, and all creation visible and invisible, in Thine ineffable goodness look down upon us, Thy people gathered in Thy Holy Name. Be Thou our helper and defender in this day of affliction. Thou knowest our weakness. Thou hearest our cry in repentance and contrition of heart. O Lord who lovest mankind, deliver us from the impending threat of the Corona Virus. Send Thine angel to watch over us and protect us. Grant health and recovery to those suffering from this virus. Guide the hands of physicians and preserve those who are healthy. Enable us to continue to serve our suffering brothers and sisters in peace that together we may glorify Thy most honorable and majestic Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages.

    Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ our God, have mercy on us and save us! Amen!

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