December 10th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1055

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  1. islandpalmtrees says:

    ARE WE LOOKING AT THE KEYS NOW?

    Stefan Halper lured Carter Page to London in order to plant information on him. That is what we were intended believe.

    Not so fast, Carter Page a CIA agent, when to London, in order to put on a show for us of entrapment by MI6/CIA asset Stefan Halper who was pretending to be a Russian asset. A show run by Ppeter Strzok.

    Stefan Halper, the MI6/CIA asset deployed to entrap Trump campaign volunteer George Papadopoulos and Carter Page in London, is an adviser to Hakluyt and a long-time professional colleague of Steele.
    http://larouchepac.com/20190112/part-iii-british-intelligence-fraud-creates-coup-against-donald-trump

    MI6 is not responsible for any activity inside UK

    MI6 – Military Intelligence 6 to Secret Services

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    • joeknuckles says:

      I can’t help but wonder if Carter Page is just really, really good at deception. Good enough to fool the best of them. He has to be pretty damn good to have been a CIA operative for so many years.
      I wonder how many alternate identities and/or disguises he has used in his career.

      I don’t know what to think of him. He seems likable. I’m just sayin’

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Looking at him, you would never have thought he was an agent. Maybe, this helped to keep him alive. When he got only a few days in,jail we should have known it then. I am now convinced that the Gang-Of-Eight knew, Carter Page was an agent too.

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        • joeknuckles says:

          Page didn’t go to jail, that was George Papadopolous. Page was never charged or anything.

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          • islandpalmtrees says:

            Thank you, I stand corrected

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          • Joemama says:

            Page wasn’t charged and didn’t go to jail because he was/is a C_A agent working for the communist muslim john brennan.

            This is a provable fact. Brennan, by his own admission, voted for Gus Newhall, presidential candidate of the US communist party, in 1980, I believe. I believe that Comey voted for him as well, but I’m not 100% certain on that.

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            • islandpalmtrees says:

              I think you will find that Carter Page worked for Brennan or Peter Strzok. You see, Peter Strzok, was a for real legal double agent. Both FBI and CIA at the same time. I have already posted the detail proof of this. I think, it’s more likely, that Page and Eric reported to Peter Strzok.

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          Key point is agents aren’t outted to everyone, hence they work undercover. The thing is Brennen and Gina would know, and the FBI would have inquired after being briefed of his work… But we can only assume they didn’t inquire on purpose, hence the by the book insurance policy ( in case of accident aka 17 of them per ig report).

          We are having fun now. Warn your family.. thngs are getting to submit or war time, Barr knows how close this is to an issue civilians are not use too.

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          • islandpalmtrees says:

            This is not correct “FBI would have inquired after being briefed of his work” and here is why. Peter Strzok was a legal double agent, both FBI and CIA at the same time. A position described under the CIA web site. Peter Strzok ran crossfire and probably coordinated the efforts of Carter Page and Eric. And, of course he was receiving orders from both the CIA (Brennan) and FBI (Comey) at the same time.

            If you search my previous postings you will find detail extracts proving Peter Strzok involvement, as a double agent.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      AG Sessions was the mole! both Papadoupoulous and Page are spooks…Sessions ran the committee they both were on…Sessions expected 45 to accept his resignation thus ensuring IMPEACHMENT…45 is VSG and said, “I knew the Swamp was deep, but who knew it is a SEWER!”

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      • California Joe says:

        Wouldn’t Gina Haspel as well as Mike Pompeo know or easily find out whether or not Carter Page had a relationship with the CIA and all the particulars of the arrangement??? What the hell am I missing here!

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Yes, Gina Haspel as well as Mike Pompeo would known. In fact, Gina Haspel worked as a Station Chief when all of this was going down in London.

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            and they told.. hence is why this was an open war behind the curtain.

            all sides knew the legal plays each side was doing. now its time to prove it… all the coup had to do was to convince the co-country-conspirators that Trump was being taken out, to keep them from cooperating with Barr.

            Trump won that war – now its a grand jury tainting operation – and using democrat voters as human shields. These people are sick and this has to be calculated to save as many useful idiots as possible. it could of been us in 2012 if romney won.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        How did you know Papadoupoulous was an agent?

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    • Roger Duroid says:

      So the CIA put in Carter Page as a plant in PDJT’s campaign? Isn’t that a Big Fing deal to have the CIA spying on US citizens?

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        It would be Big, if it ended there. The Gang-Of-Eight must have known about Carter Page being a CIA agent. If they kept this information from the FISA court then they are all guilty of Obstruction of justice. If the FISA Judge knew, then the judge is a co-conspirator.

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          One thing, their is a Law making it mandatory for the CIA to report to the Gang-Of-Eight their operations. Therefore, the Gang-Of-Eight knew about the Spy.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          One member of the gang of 8 was not in on the deal, Nunes. I suspect he reported on more than has been disclosed, that day he went to the skiff and heck broke loose. Bedsides being reported to the gang of 8, this stuff was also in President Obama’s daily Daily Intel Brief that Nunes read.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Add the CIA agent in the White House Eric.

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        • gsonFIT says:

          Do you think the Go8 knows the personnel or just the operation? I do not trust someone like Adam Schiff or Mark Warner with such info.

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          • islandpalmtrees says:

            I think they knew. 1) Because the government has been unwilling to release the original Carter Page FSIA warrant. 2) We are talking about spying not only on a Presidential Candidate but a President of the United Sates. 3) Paul Ryan, got Nunes out of the way for awhile. Long enough for the remaining members of the Go8 to get this spying started.

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          • islandpalmtrees says:

            4) And, most important – the Go8 probably asked Brennan or Peter Strzok why they were putting an agent into President Trump’s campaign and where. To get the Steel Dossier into the FISA warrant using our agent.

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            • gsonFIT says:

              The way you mentioned it in item four really illustrates that it doesn’t matter if GO8 new names. I was wondering if Schiff new Ciamerella way back when in 2016

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  2. burnett044 says:

    interesting…
    Virginia Sheriff Will Create An Armed Militia To Protect Gun Owner Rights

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  3. jeans2nd says:

    A possibly stupid question re: the IG FISA Report – FBI had a FISA warrant on Carter Page, renewed 3 times for a total time of approx 11 mos.

    A FISA warrant allows one to access previous communications of the FISA target.
    How is it that, after 11 months of searching, no one in FBI stumbled across the Carter Page communications with CIA as a CIA CI?

    It makes no sense. Someone would have seen those communications. Shirley FBI is not that stupid. Are they?
    Yet the DOJ IG accepted it, and expects us to accept it. smh

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    • InAz says:

      If I remember correctly……the FBI used Carter Page to help go after some Russians, and Carter Page testified in court trial for the FBI when the FBI took these Russians to court.

      The FBI damm well knew who Carter Page was.

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  4. Reserved55 says:

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  6. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  7. H. Hawke says:

    Wonder who’s hacked Jim’s account and is posting tweets from 2017?

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  8. 1stgoblyn says:

    I am sick of Dims, Impeachment, Nadler, Nanzi Pelosi, Schifty Schitt and all their cohorts. I am ready for a VSPGPDJT rally in Chocolate town no less. How sweet!

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  9. 1stgoblyn says:

    Pence has just taken the stage to introduce the President. I am ready!

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  10. wightmanfarm says:

    WTH is McConnell doing with the USMCA deal ?

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  11. jeans2nd says:

    The WaPo published The Afghanistan Papers yesterday, comparable to the Pentagon Papers for Vietnam.

    Again today, no one is talking about The Afghanistan Papers. Why ???

    “The US has allocated more than $133 billion to build up Afghanistan – more than it spent, adjusted for inflation, to revive the whole of Western Europe with the Marshall Plan after World War II.”
    The Afghanistan Papers

    Pres Trump has been working to end the Marshall Plan for Western Europe. When Pres Trump tried to shut down the Corruptocrat money flow to Afghanistan and Ukraine, they impeach the guy.
    Pres Nixon ran on ending the Vietnam War. They threatened to impeach him, too. Pres Nixon turned tail and ran.

    When does it end?

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Note that there is more than $133 Billion in Afghanistan at stke. There are/were Billions of Infrastructure dollars thrown at ex-Russian and “breakaway” Republics in exchange for basing rights and right of passage for US and NATO men and materials transiting to Afghanistan.

      The Infrastructure Money actually dwarfs the military related arms money. That is where the big money in nation building is spent. the companies involved ARE NOT DoD Arms contractors but civilian firms that specialized in handling large infrastructure projects and money related to those contracts. That money is/was handled by DoD and State Department, allocated by Congress.

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  12. linda4298 says:

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    • gsonFIT says:

      Adam Schiff didn’t want to litigate the Horowitz report during an impeachment trial. I really want to know how much G08 was briefed on all this. What did Nancy and Schiff know and when did they know it. Whatever they were ultimately briefed on I think it scared Dianne Feinstein off

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Regardless, it seems they settled something they’re all willing to run off the cliff with. It doesn’t make any sense to me.

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  13. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • The Electoral College was conceived by the very same logic that gave us the House of Representatives, for the very same reason(s), and by the very same rune. (Never mind the utter and complete lack of instantaneous electronic communications in the 18th Century …) The essential concept was that the President would be elected by the States, doing so in a way designed to compensate for the very large differences in population among the various Colonies cum States. (Yes, the Colonies faced issues that were quite proportionate to the “Powerhouse California” of the present day.)

      And the 2016 Election Map, I think, “speaks volumes” about the wisdom of that decision. Both coastlines featured “extremely densely-populated Blue Dots” that nonetheless did not carry the day because of their density. And yet, what carried the election was “the Sea of Red.”

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  15. gsonFIT says:

    HPSCI minority should call for Adam Schiff’s resignation as Chairman of Intel committee at the beginning of every one of their meetings.

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  16. jeans2nd says:

    Lou Dobbs pinned Dr Peter Navarro down for some trade answers.
    Unfortunately, Fox Biz only uploaded the first half of the interview.

    Is China messing with the U.S. Futures market?
    “Yes.”

    Will the 15 Dec tariffs on China go into effect?
    “I’ve not heard otherwise.”

    “The market knows it is being played.”
    Ignore the economic noise. If it doesn’t come from the Trump Trade Team, it is not fact. 6:12

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  17. gsonFIT says:

    I feel pretty sure the fbi corruption will be exposed if not tomorrow by Lindsey Graham then very soon. Then indictments will follow from Durham’s work. I think it is cool that Sundance has guided us these past few years. I think he really nailed it with only the limited information available to the public.

    But one person we haven’t discussed since the IG report dropped is Andrew Weissman, Weissman and Rosenstein should have to wash dishes or something till they repay us the $40MM Mueller boondoggle. Seriously this guy is John Brennan evil.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Disbarment + other penalties.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      my theory is each name we know of has FLIPPED ALREADY and is hiding it from the other coup members ( like carter hiding the cia role)..

      these people have always been loyal to their own butts first, and have had no problem lying. lying to their former coup teammates would be no issue!

      look at them! lol LOOOK. only an informant walks with that much swagger in a position of humiliation ( because they know the outcome – freedom, and it lets their ego outshadow what shame they would have without DADDY COP protecting them)

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  18. sunnydaze says:

    Kevin McCarthy is giving a fantastic speech and Press Conf. re. Impeachment train wreck now on Cspan

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  19. Mike says:

    Shut up Sean! Shut up Sean…

    Hannity SHUT UP!

    Whew. I feel better.

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  21. jeans2nd says:

    The Afghanistan Papers –

    Good question. Some enterprising reporter might ask.
    Quid Pro Joe’s reaction would be priceless.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Remember when the press said O’bama contemplated deeply about everything in Afghanistan and wanted to know everything before he made a move?

      The Chroniclers wrote:
      …And then, O’bama finally spoke – surprising everybody. His voice barely registered in the quiet room above the air conditioner hum as he said with a dismissive wave, “Leave me. Fix it.”

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      • “A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction…

        “This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.”

        – President (and Five-Star General) Dwight D. Eisenhower; January 17, 1961.

        … who said that governing, managing, and living in a free and independent nation was going to be easy?

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  22. sunnydaze says:

    This (Charter Schools) is a winning issue for Republicans to take up w/ people in poor neighborhoods across this country.

    Lizzie is pushing the same “solutions” for improving Public Schools that have been being pushed for DECADES now and have resulted in……NOTHING. No improvements whatsoever, just further deterioration.

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    • Carrie says:

      Even moderate Democrats agree that public schools are not salvageable in poorer neighborhoods. And Common Core consistently tests as an unmitigated disaster. Any way- it was also shown that Warren was claiming her son only went to public schools- but that was also later disproven.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Public schools in urban areas are black holes of waste and despair. You can dump as much money as you want but corruption and incompetence will only enriches those working the system.

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      • As the son of a schoolteacher – who I continue to admire as a professional, although she is my mother – I very frankly take exception to this. In every one of those “black hole” schools, I find professionals who every day continue to strive to teach those children who can be taught. But also(!), they selflessly strive to intervene in the greater lives of those students and their families … knowing full well, for example, that often “school lunch” is the best meal those children will receive all day.

        No, I don’t(!) agree with [multi-millionaire …] Sen. Warren that “charter schools” are the answer. In fact, #FLAME ON! I don’t see too much difference between “separate but equal,” this time based on economics versus skin-tone.#FLAME OFF We’re all grappling with the same insurmountable problems here, and the same brutal realities of life. While I don’t deny the fact that our society is divided into various “strata,” I also don’t want for our society to forsake the people who are down in the holds, bailing for all their might.

        “What you did for the least of them …”

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        • P.S.: Perhaps this is my personal “smoldering resentment” with regards to these sitting US Senators who now want to become Presidential Candidates:

          If you actually became President, you would lose the unique powers and prerogatives that you now have: the ability to convene public hearings and to introduce bills on the Senate floor. Therefore, “what are you right-now doing for me, with the very unique powers that you right-now have?” Don’t sit on the edge of the bed and tell me how good it’s going to be … 😡 …

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        • Carrie says:

          Mike- I fully admire dedicated teacher sin the poor neighborhoods. My own mother taught a gifted class in Liberty City in Miami during the riots in the 80’s. She got “combat pay” for taking the job in a tough neighborhood. She loved her kids- they were great. But even then, the system kept holding her back. The teachers unions don’t fire bad teachers and administrators, they send them to these schools- the ones who need the most help. So one principal banned “yucky” animals for my mother to teach with (I used to catch corn snakes in our backyard for her to take in- this was banned- only fuzzy cute animals like bunnies allowed). My mother witnessed another teacher viciously whipping a child with a belt, but charges were never pressed because my mother was told “it was a black on black incident”. Now a dear friend of mine is an advocate for kids with special needs in Broward and Dade counties. She has had several high profile federal cases.Without divulging too much- I can only assure you it has only gotten worse. And on top of that the cheating has become rampant. Any increase in test scores translates to a pay increase for the administrators and teachers int hose neighborhoods. So they give the kids answers or even fill out the bubbles themselves to get it. I’ve run out of ideas.

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        • Robert Smith says:

          Those teaching professionals, the good ones who haven’t lowered expectations and teach a reasonable version of typical courses given elsewhere are few in number. So I don’t mean to smear them all, but many, if not most deserve it. One of the main metrics they like to tout is graduation rate – while also fighting to get rid of graduation/competency/exit tests. Translation: nobody ever got in trouble for passing a kid on.

          In addition, they are in a system that is set up to fail by those incompetent administrators that has risen through the corrupt system. The current system won’t work. You can tell it doesn’t work as the colleges have to keep expanding their non-credit courses for students they accept who aren’t ready. If you don’t like where I’m placing the blame, fine. The system clearly has to change.

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  23. Carrie says:

    I missed this yesterday- but maybe someone else posted it? The Epoch Times naming more character involved with Stefan Halper and reminding us that Sidney Powell has requested Clapper’s call records…

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      i bet the carter fisa was done on oct 24 and sydney is trolling them by filing that day

      just for fun see some key dates posted by some user on this site years ago !

      Please find this poster

      November 2015-April 2016 – The FBI and DOJ’s National Security Division (NSD) uses private contractors to access raw FISA information using “To” and “From” FISA-702(16) & “About” FISA-702(17) queries.


      March 2016 – NSA Director Rogers becomes aware of improper access to raw FISA data.


      April 2016 – Rogers orders the NSA compliance officer to run a full audit on 702 NSA compliance.


      April 18 2016 – Rogers shuts down FBI/NSD contractor access to the FISA Search System.


      April 19- Mary B Jacoby visits the White House.

      April-September 2016 – Rogers continues his investigation.


      September 26 2016 – DOJ’s NSD Head John Carlin files the Government’s proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications. The filing does not disclose the FISA Abuses. Carlin is aware of Rogers’ compliance review. The 2016 certifications are scheduled for Court approval on October 26, 2016.


      September 27 2016 – Carlin announces he is resigning. Mary McCord will later assume his position.


      October 15, 2016 – Carlin formally leaves the NSD.
Mid-October 2016 – DNI Clapper submits a recommendation to the White House that Director Rogers be removed from the NSA. Clapper’s effort fails.


      October 20 2016 – Rogers is briefed by the NSA compliance officer on the Section 702 NSA compliance audit and “About” query violations.


      October 21 2016 – Rogers shuts down all “About Query” activity. Rogers reports the activity to DOJ and prepares to go before the FISA Court.


      October 21 2016 – DOJ & FBI seek and receive a Title I FISA probable cause order authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISC. At this point, the FISA Court is unaware of the Section 702 violations.


      October 24 2016 – Rogers verbally informs the FISA Court of Section 702(17) violations.


      October 26 2016 – Rogers formally informs the FISA Court of 702(17) violations in writing.


      October 26, 2016 – The FISA Court refuses to formalize the 2016 Section 702 certifications. A complete overhaul of Section 702 processes ensues.


      November 17 2016 (morning) – Rogers travels to meet President-Elect Trump and his Transition Team in Trump Tower. Rogers does not inform DNI James Clapper.


      November 17 2016 (evening) – Trump Transition Team announces they are moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey.

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  24. Carrie says:

    Meanwhile, TechnoFog is on a roll! He’s calling out all fo the reporters who literally did not understand or are willfully misinterpreting the IG report ! He is listing their asinine tweets- here’s one of them as an example (most keep claiming that the dossier wasn’t used as evidence for the FISA warrant-( What??!)

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    • … and in this respect it is critical to observe that “some of these judges are now perfectly aware that they were being deceived.” They now understand that the process of which they were a part was, in fact, broken. Broken beyond repair. So subject to manipulation by outside parties that, in the presence of such willing and purposeful manipulation, “justice cannot be served.”

      The FISA legislation of the late 1970’s “must go.” And, I would argue, “so must PATRIOT.” As a nation, we must learn the lessons that we are now presented with. We must confront the realities of technology and the mortal dangers that are intrinsic to it. We must build new, better laws. (Yes, it is “a national security issue.” And no, it’s not going to be easy.)

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        2 fisa judges already releases reports of abuses of the CIRCLE OF DATA CIRCUS ( snoop NSA database find dots to make a meaniful FISA warrant, get FISA signed to make all previous illegal searching LEGAL)

        yeeehaw are we having fun yet?

        only one way this all HAPPENS – is if the SPYING is 100% and saturated on EVERYONE and people in the know KNOWW not to speak up cause it will be used against them (as they have seen in examples before).

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  25. jeans2nd says:

    Remember when Quid Pro Joe was talking of his hairy blonde legs and how he loves kids jumping in his lap? There was a part about “roaches” that no one understood. Well…

    Live and learn.
    Some enterprising reporter should ask Quid Pro Joe about this…

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  26. jeans2nd says:

    Our own Fake News has refused to discuss The Afghanistan Papers, a reveal of the debacle our gubmint created in the war in Afghanistan similar to the Pentagon Papers and the Vietnam War.

    It is nice to see that at least the overseas press is willing to discuss The Afghanistan Papers.

    Lt Col (Ret) Tony Shaffer spoke with Larry O’Conner about The Afghanistan Papers yesterday. Shaffer pointed out how ironic it was for WaPo to publish The Afghanistan Papers when WaPo was one of the ones silencing Lt Col (Ret) Shaffer’s book about the mess our gubmint made in the Afghanistan war.

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  27. Joemama says:

    PDJT is your new C_A chief a patriot? Is she loyal to the USA and does she recognize you as her Commander in Chief?

    We the People need to know, pretty much immediately? Where does Gina Haskel stand?

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