Friday November 29th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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71 Responses to Friday November 29th – Open Thread

  1. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Does Scripture Ban Piercings?

    By Pastor Ricky Kurth

    “Is there Scripture that bans earrings and other body piercings for Christians?”

    Earrings for women are often seen in a favorable light in Scripture (Gen. 24:22; Ex. 35:22; Num. 31:50; Pr. 25:12; Ezek. 16:12). The men in Israel also wore them (Ex. 32:2; 35:22), although that may or may not have been because earrings were associated with slavery (Ex. 21:6), and they had just escaped from slavery in Egypt. Either way, they are certainly not associated with slavery today.

    Judges 8:24 talks about some men who “had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites,” and so we see that such ornaments on men were at one time associated with people other than God’s people in Israel, just as they were once associated with pirates in more modern times. This suggests that male earrings might have an associative significance that changes with the times, and this is something that should be taken into consideration for any man contemplating them in our own day.

    The Bible doesn’t mention other piercings, other than when God was displeased with the people of Israel and vowed to “take away…their… nose jewels” (Isa. 3:18-21). But this was because He wanted them to mourn and not rejoice. If we say that He vowed to take away their nose jewels because they are wrong in and of themselves, we’d have to argue that “bracelets” and “bonnets” and “headbands” and “rings” are also wrong, for God vowed to strip them of these ornaments as well in that passage.

    So the question of body piercings under grace seems to come down to a matter of personal conviction, and in such cases the apostle of grace advises us to be gracious, not judgmental (Rom. 14:3).

    Genesis 24:22 And it came to pass, as the camels had done drinking, that the man took a golden earring of half a shekel weight, and two bracelets for her hands of ten shekels weight of gold;

    Exodus 35:22 And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the LORD.

    Numbers 31:50 We have therefore brought an oblation for the LORD, what every man hath gotten, of jewels of gold, chains, and bracelets, rings, earrings, and tablets, to make an atonement for our souls before the LORD.

    P r o v e r b s 25:12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.

    Ezekiel 16:12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.

    Exodus 32:2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

    Exodus 35:22 And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the LORD.

    Exodus 21:6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

    Judges 8:24 And Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.)

    Isaiah 3:18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,
    19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,
    20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
    21 The rings, and nose jewels,

    Romans 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

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    • JTR says:

      DH says that in the Royal Navy, they always told him that a sailor wears a gold earring so that wherever he dies, it can pay for his burial. He doesn’t have a piercing or a tattoo!


  2. Lucille says:


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  3. Lucille says:

    Black American’s #1 Enemy Is Black Democrats
    Patricia Dickson – Published on Nov 28, 2019

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

    From Tiffany Goodrick
    The 36 voices you hear were all recorded separately at different times and in different locations. Each woman had only the melody playing in her ear and then sang the part that she wanted, no music was written out. All videos were recorded using cell phones. I’m so thankful for each of these women and their willingness to make my vision a reality (when I started this project, I had no idea something like this had already been done by the talented Eric Whitacre). To my sweet and patient husband, thank you for making the execution of this video a possibility.

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  5. Lucille says:

    1965 was about the time I discovered the always superb Wes Montgomery and bought several of his albums at the long-gone Vogue Records on Westwood Blvd. near UCLA. In the 60s-80s Westwood Village was one of the great neighborhoods of Los Angeles to shop, see a movie and have a meal. Memories!

    Wes Montgomery (1923-1968) – “Round Midnight” – LIVE IN BELGIUM 1965

    Composers: Thelonious Monk, Bernie Hanighen, Cootie Williams
    One of the commenters said: “Wes is accompanied by Harold Mabern on piano, Arthur Harper on bass and Jimmy Lovelace on drums.”

    His bio at: is both inspiring and sad; but I think no way would he ever want anyone to feel down at his hard road. Life is what it is.

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    • Garrison Hall says:



    • Linda K. says:

      I agree about Westwood Village. I was at UCLA in the late 70’s and it was wonderfully fun.


      • Lucille says:

        Remember the big Bullock’s Westwood? Couldn’t tell you how many items I purchased there over the years. And Lamonica’s Pizza on Gayley? Delicious! Used to see celebrities eating slices of pizza all the time.


        • Linda K. says:

          Yes! There was always a wonderful mix of students and shops and businesses and there was a playhouse. We saw Charleston Heston in the lobby during an intermission. I’ve forgotten the play. I just took it for granted. That Brentwood area was really nice too. I think O.J. Simpson and Nicole Simpson lived in that area.


  6. mandy says:

    Should have posted this on today’s thread instead of yesterdays…ooops…

    “A Rare Virtue—On Why Many of Us Show No Gratitude – Priest Dimitry Vydumkin

    “Everybody receives abundant blessings from God, but only a few give thanks to Him.”1

    About two centuries ago, St. Ignatius (Brianchaninov) expressed a very deplorable moral constant which was revealed to him by his spiritual experience, “Gratitude is a rare virtue among people.”2 It is enough to look closely at the state of morals in the society we live in to understand that it is a constant and not a variable quantity.

    …a grateful person always receives beyond expectation, for a thankful heart is a receptacle of Divine gifts. This is what the Gospel story of the healing of ten lepers by the Lord is about (cf. Lk. 17:12–19).

    Indeed they were cleansed on their way, but only one of them returned to Christ and, falling at His feet, gave praise to God. This man turned out to be a Samaritan—a member of the “unfaithful” and “alien” ethnic group whom the Jews shunned and weren’t on speaking terms with. The Lord said in reply: Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine? There are not found that returned to give glory to God… Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole (Lk. 17:17-19).

    There are no coincidences in this episode, every detail is filled with deep meaning. Let us examine at least some of them. …”

    It’s a great article, read the whole piece at the link:

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  7. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
    Romans 6:23 (KJV)

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  8. Dora says:

    Saul Leiter – “Red Umbrella,” 1955

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  9. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  10. Dora says:

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  11. just stevie says:


    “He shall glorify Me.” John xvi. 14

    The pietistic movements of today have none of the rugged reality of the New Testament about them; there is nothing about them that needs the Death of Jesus Christ; all that is required is a pious atmosphere, and prayer and devotion. This type of experience is not supernatural nor miraculous, it did not cost the passion of God, it is not dyed in the blood of the Lamb, not stamped with the hallmark of the Holy Ghost; it has not that mark on it which makes men say, as they look with awe and wonder – “That is the work of God Almighty.” That and nothing else is what the New Testament talks about.

    The type of Christian experience in the New Testament is that of personal passionate devotion to the Person of Jesus Christ. Every other type of Christian experience, so called, is detached from the Person of Jesus. There is no regeneration, no being born again into the Kingdom in which Christ lives, but only the idea that He is our Pattern. In the New Testament Jesus Christ is Saviour long before He is Pattern. Today He is being dispatched as the Figurehead of a Religion, a mere Example. He is that, but He is infinitely more; He is salvation itself, He IS the Gospel of God.

    Jesus said, “When He the Spirit of truth is come…He shall glorify Me.” When I commit myself to the revelation made in the New Testament, I receive from God the gift of the Holy Spirit Who begins to interpret to me what Jesus did; and does in me subjectively all that Jesus Christ did for me objectively.

    Oswald Chambers
    November 29th Devotional

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    • Pale rider says:

      Well those words requiring “the death of Jesus Christ” shall now be my benchmark in measuring my faith. Excellent point I have been searching for.
      Does it require his death burial and resurrection to be taken into account or is it mans ideals?
      When you cull out mans religion by those points you HAVE TO believe in miracles, Gods kingdom OF miracles. All else is obviously ‘Cain’s ‘ offering. When you see it you realize how offensive it is to God. Wow!
      Does anyone see how Satan has used camouflage to hide Gods kingdom??? Without contrast you cannot see it. By using correct criteria it become visible.

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      • Patrick Healy says:

        Pale rider you are on the straight and narrow path to salvation
        God bless you and all on here.

        Prayer to St Michael the Archangel

        St Michael the archangel,
        Defend us in our day of battle;
        Be our safeguard against the
        wickedness and snares of the
        May God rebuke him we
        humbly pray,
        And do thou, o Prince of the
        heavenly host,
        By the power of God,
        Trust down into hell satan
        And all the evil spirits who
        wander through the world
        For the ruin of soul am

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  12. Dora says:

    I never fail to be amazed when I see these pictures.

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  13. If I refuse to go shopping on Black Friday, will the Democrats call me a racist?

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  14. TheLastDemocrat says:

    follow up from Thanksgiving recipe thread.
    We did try to flavor up mashed potatoes by adding some squash – for the people who don’t want to eat dairy. It was good. We did acorn squash. Next I will try butternut. We just mixed it in. Still in experimental stage so no formula to give yet.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Should work depending on what you expect your end product will be. I’ve added thick mashed potatoes to pureed butternut/acorn-type roasted/mashed squash as a thickener in making a fried latke-like product. The potatoes are akin to potato flour you use as thickening, they bind with the squash and make the pancake less likely to fall apart in the frying process.

      I fry in butter or lard and they go with about any topping. What you’ve put into the ashed potatoes will carry through so if I’ve spiced mine up with garlic and onion the sweet goes less well than the savory toppings. I’m trying to work up the nerve to use the mix in the waffle iron and see if it works – I have plenty of receptive coons and possums who’ll be glad to dispose of any evidence.


    • JTR says:

      I just saw DH carrying the leftover mashed potatoes away a few minutes ago! I had plans for that mash. Oh well, he’s consumed them and that’s what counts.

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  15. NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

    A proposal by an Arlington-based think tank raises a potential success for Trump against the PRC. Official diplomatic recognition for Taiwan, again. No more CartKissing anymore. With the island’s January elections approaching, it’s an interesting proposal.


  16. czarowniczy says:

    Watching a member of the British press commenting on today’s London Bridge stabbing incident. He mentions the similarities with the 2017 van/stabbing incident that killed 11, right down to the 2017 crew and today’s stabber wearing fake suicide vests. Without breaking stride he goes right into warning viewers not to draw any conclusions as there’s also a great deal of gang violence in London. Oh yeah, dem London Sharks and Jets be wearing gang suicide vests now?

    London mayor released a brief boilerplate response that said nothing, maybe there’ll be something more after they confer at the masjid tonite.

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  17. David says:

    Israel. Counter terrorism school.

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  18. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the wondrous creation of the world (Genesis 1):

    1. How, on the third day, God divided the dry land from the water.
    2. How He commanded the earth to bring forth grass and fruit-bearing trees.
    3. How this was all according to the word of God, and it was good.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – November 16th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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    • Sepp says:

      The Holy Apostle and Evangelist Matthew, of the Twelve

      He was also known as Levi and was the son of Alphæus. Being the first of the Four Evangelists, he wrote his Gospel eight years after the Ascension of the Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, in the Hebrew (Aramaic) dialect and it was soon translated into Greek.

      His Life and the account of his writing of the Gospel are shared by Saint Theophylact and by Saint Dimitri of Rostov and Saint Nikolai in “The Prologue from Ohrid” for today. The Holy Apostle and Evangelist Matthew is commemorated today – November 16th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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  19. Lucille says:

    When people have no allegiance to a country, their commitment to keeping that nation’s laws is sketchy at best….

    November 27, 2019 by Robert Spencer

    The police there know who is in charge and who they must not allow to become offended or enraged. And it isn’t Sally Ness.

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  20. Watching the Unabomber series on Netflix, I noticed some people interesting points from the Manifesto (I was too young to pay attention closely then). Ted basically said what we all now know to be true about government and tech – it is all about controlling us. Obviously bombing people few know, at their homes, is not the proper way to go about enacting change.

    Interestingly this followed an article I read about Bernie-ites hating on Obama. Many of us from opposite sides of the spectrum agree on things but govt is splitting us and radicalizing leftists.

    Just my POV


  21. andeclain says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  22. andeclain says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  23. Tim Cunningham says:

    Is there anyone here who can reach out to Tucker Carlson ( and tell him that the official views of the crowd at the Trump inauguration that he links to ( were clearly taken before the ceremony began? For the crowd size during the ceremony, check out this gigapixel photo of the event taken while the newly inaugurated President Trump was speaking ( Yes, we owe it to CNN of all people. The Lord works in mysterious ways. . .


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