Saturday July 20th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL. For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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123 Responses to Saturday July 20th – Open Thread

  1. DanDeplorable says:

    Part 5 of 6

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    • DanDeplorable says:

      Tomorrow, God willing: Conclusion

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “…What the people of this depraved world need is the gospel…”

      AMEN!

      1Timothy 2:1 ¶ I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
      2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
      3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
      4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
      5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

      1Corinthians 15:1 ¶ Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
      2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
      3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
      4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

      Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    • just stevie says:

      So, so true! Thanks for posting this series!

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  2. citizen817 says:

    Happy Caturday!

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  3. citizen817 says:

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  4. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Christ’s Death For All

    Paul preached Christ’s death for all men. In I Tim. 2:4-7, he states emphatically that this glorious truth was first committed specifically to him:

    “Who will have ALL MEN to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    “For there is one God, and one mediator BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, the man Christ Jesus;

    “Who gave Himself A RANSOM FOR ALL, to be testified in due time.

    “WHEREUNTO I AM ORDAINED A PREACHER, AND AN APOSTLE, (I SPEAK THE TRUTH IN CHRIST, AND LIE NOT;) A TEACHER OF THE GENTILES IN FAITH AND VERITY.”

    Note the words “to be,” “in due time” and “whereunto I am appointed.” Thus this glorious message of Christ’s death for all was not part of prophecy or of the so-called “Great Commission,” but was later committed to Paul.

    Nowhere in Old Testament prophecy do we read that Christ would die for all, including the Gentiles. Even in that famous prophecy, Isaiah 53, which Gentile believers are so apt to apply to themselves, the Hebrew prophet says: “All we like sheep have gone astray ,” and “the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all” (Ver. 6). Now, if I tell you that “we all,” or “all of us” are going on an outing, this does not mean that all the world is invited. And in this case Isaiah’s meaning is especially clear and emphatic for, speaking still as a Hebrew prophet, he goes on to say: “For the transgression of my people was He stricken” (Ver. 8). How then could Paul have meant in I Cor. 15:3 that his preaching of the cross as good news for all, was in fulfillment of prophecy? Indeed, he distinctly states that it was a “mystery,” a secret, first revealed to him.

    “For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

    “If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

    “How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery…” (Eph.3:1-3).

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/christs-death-for-all/

    1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
    7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

    Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
    2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
    3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
    4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
    6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
    7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
    8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

    9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
    10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
    11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
    12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
    4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
    2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
    3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

    Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

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    • TMonroe says:

      “Nowhere in Old Testament prophecy do we read that Christ would die for all, including the Gentiles. Even in that famous prophecy, Isaiah 53, which Gentile believers are so apt to apply to themselves, the Hebrew prophet says: “All we like sheep have gone astray ,” and “the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all” (Ver. 6). Now, if I tell you that “we all,” or “all of us” are going on an outing, this does not mean that all the world is invited. And in this case Isaiah’s meaning is especially clear and emphatic for, speaking still as a Hebrew prophet, he goes on to say: “For the transgression of my people was He stricken” (Ver. 8).”

      Reading through the New Testament, including Paul’s letters, one will find references to Old Testament prophecies and fulfillments that apply to Gentile believers, even from Hebrew prophets who also prophesied about things that applied to Temple-era Israel etc. I would certainly hope that Gentile believers would apply Isaiah 53 to themselves, as much of it relates to every true believer.

      Isaiah 53:11-12 “After the anguish of His soul, He will see the light of life and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant will justify many, and He will bear their iniquities. Therefore I will allot Him a portion with the great, and He will divide the spoils with the strong, because He has poured out His life unto death, and He was numbered with the transgressors. Yet He bore the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors.”

      Anyone saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ would necessarily apply to themselves Christ’s bearing of their sins, His sufferings, and His sacrifice as described and prophesied in Isaiah 53 — with the sacrifice occurring “once for all” (cf. Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 10:10, 10:14, 1 Peter 3:18), not different or multiple times for different groups.

      Hebrews 9:26-28 — “Otherwise it was necessary for Him to have suffered repeatedly from the foundation of the world. But now He has been revealed once in the consummation of the ages for the putting away of sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And inasmuch as it is apportioned to men to die once, and after this, judgment, so also Christ, having been offered once in order to bear the sins of many, will appear for a second time, apart from sin, to those awaiting Him for salvation.”

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      • piper567 says:

        TMonroe, thanks.
        “His purpose was to create in Himself one new humanity out of the two [Jew and Gentile], thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which He put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through Him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.”
        Ephesians 2: 15-18

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  5. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    HAPPY CATURDAY!

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  6. freepetta says:

    God Bless President Trump and our USA!! In Jesus Name Amen 🙏

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  7. Lucille says:

    IT’S CATURDAY AND FLOWERS…

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  8. Garrison Hall says:

    A rock-and-roll anthem if ever there was one . . .

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  9. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Caterday, Treepers! Sleepy kitties . . .

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  10. Robert Smith says:

    From when people were more optimistic about race relations.

    Everyday People in ASL

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  11. dogsmaw says:

    I’m retreating back to my childhood 😛

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  12. Janie M. says:

    “This is why I don’t like to share my bed.” I’d say kitty is NOT amused by the antics of his/her bed partner.

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  13. jx says:

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  14. jx says:

    The special counsel’s investigation was a sham controlled by the intelligence community. Evidence has long suggested as much, but testimony earlier this week from Michael Flynn’s ex-lawyer—that Flynn’s former legal team had not seen recently revealed information purporting to implicate Flynn in a conspiracy with a Turkish agent—confirms it.

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/19/latest-development-flynn-case-proves-special-counsel-cover-operation-taking-trump/

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  15. Dora says:

    When I first saw this picture 50 years ago, I was amazed. I thought it was one of the most beautiful and fascinating photographs I had ever seen. It’s still up there on my list.

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    • steve says:

      beautiful…too bad the curve of the moon and the curve of the shadow on the earth go in opposire directions. bring on the debunkers.

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      • steve says:

        let’s try it this way: the sun is “up” with relation to the moon, the photo is taken from “up” with relation to the moon, and the earth is “up” with relation to the moon. so what is causing the shadow on the earth. notice the direction of the shadows on the moon.

        have you ever noticed that the sun and the moon are frequently “up” simultaneously
        on the earth as we view them, and yet the moon is not full; it is in some “phase.” what is causing the shadow? good luck.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        During an eclipse, the moon’s shadow is on the earth, the moon is between the earth and the sun. Generally, the sun side of the moon will not be seeing the earth.

        What we are seeing is the day/night boundary on the earth. And we are seeing the horizon on the moon. It is highly likely that we are seeing a crater wall or maybe mountains at the horizon. Hence the jagged edge.

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        • nimrodman says:

          Yes

          If the sun is “overhead” of the earth-moon plane, it could be illuminating both, as in the photo, and the light/dark transition on earth is the daylight/nighttime boundary from the “overhead sun”, as you say.

          The moon is not casting it’s “shadow” on earth, also as you explain

          Plus, lunar eclipses don’t happen every week. It’s highly unlikely the moon landing coincided with one.

          Although records are available to anyone who wants to go find out if earth was in lunar eclipse on July 20, 1969

          Have at it

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    • kp says:

      Earth is a sphere, one’s line of site encompasses the outside edges (further away) and the center (closer) at the same time. There is no other way that the shadow could be projected unless it was a flat object (like a picture or painting).
      NOW bring on the debunkers!

      Earth, our Heavenly Father’s most favorite place in the universe! I’m sticking with His perspective…

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  16. jx says:

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  17. CountryDoc says:

    If we were to hear 100 people repeating the sentence, ‘Let not your heart be troubled,’ we should find that 99 of them put the emphasis upon the word troubled…. I feel led to believe that the purposed emphasis is on the word heart…. The heart is to be clothed in serene regality even when hell is knocking and rioting at its very gates. (J.H. Jowett)

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    • Great thought C.Doc.

      Jesus is always emphasizing the heart…and His power to cleanse, heal, transform it and give it His peace. He wants to have faith in that rather than be overcome by fear, worry and anxiety.

      It is Peter walking on the water in a spiritual way. When he looked away from Jesus and let the tumultuous waves captivate his attention, he began to panic and sink.

      Jesus wants us to keep the eyes of our hearts fixed upon Him instead of whatever trouble is at hand that threatens to storm our gates and sink us.

      Btw, that was a kind and generous gesture and offer you made to ristvan the other day. Bless you for that. A doctor of compassion!

      Shalom and have a great weekend!

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      • Correction…

        …”He wants us to have faith…”

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      • kp says:

        CountryDoc & Angelle Staria,

        Great insight and I want to share one further (deeper) consideration in the same vein.
        ‘Heart’ NT:2588 (Strong’s) kardia (kar-dee’-ah); prolonged from a primary kar (Latin, cor, “heart”); …the thoughts or feelings…

        Our LORD is the “kardia” knower or ‘thought’ knower, He knows what is in our ‘heart’ meaning in our mind at it’s deepest level.

        In compelling us in John 14:1 to “Let not your heart (mind) be troubled…” He is implying our thoughts need not be troubled because we have peace through the knowledge HE provides. In knowing His divine plan we find internal peace. So many exhort “peace” to others, or the world, implying carnal peace (not war) when the intent is clearly spirtual peace, since we always have wars and rumors of wars.

        As watchmen, one of the primary signs we should look for, is the world [NWO] crying out, “Peace, peace, we finally have peace!” Then we will know the 6th trump has sounded, Satan is coming defacto, and our Lord & Saviour will be along shortly after.

        The true Christ comes while Satan is already here fooling the world that he is here to rapture them away. ‘Who has ears to hear’.

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        • kp says:

          Angelle,

          I meant to add; I share your view of CDoc’s offer to ristvan. It was a very nice gesture. As a caregiver, I’m aware how quickly some ‘run for the tall grass’, and it’s awesome that he would offer his services to our brother in his time(s) of need.

          God bless.

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  18. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.”
    1 John 4:11 (KJV)

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  19. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  20. duchess01 says:

    Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborn

    Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children

    Jesus Loves You…Run to Him

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  21. just stevie says:

    DEPENDENT ON GOD’S PRESENCE

    “They that wait upon the Lord…shall walk and not faint.” Isaiah xl. 31

    There is no thrill in walking; it is the test of all the stable qualities. To “walk and not faint” is the highest reach possible for strength. The word “walk” is used in the Bible to express the character – “John looking on Jesus as He walked, said, Behold the Lamb of God!” There is never anything abstract in the Bible, it is always vivid and real. God does not say – Be spiritual, but – “Walk before Me.”

    When we are in an unhealthy state physically or emotionally, we always want thrills. In the physical domain this will lead to counterfeiting the Holy Ghost; in the emotional life it leads to inordinate affection and the destruction of morality; and in the spiritual domain if we insist on getting thrills, on mounting up with wings, it will end in the destruction of spirituality.

    The reality of God’s presence is not dependent on any place, but only dependent upon the determination to set the Lord always before us. Our problems come when we refuse to bank on the reality of His presence. The experience the Psalmist speaks of – “Therefore will we not fear, though…” will be ours when once we are based on Reality, not the consciousness of God’s presence but the reality of it – Why, He has been here all the time!

    At critical moments it is necessary to ask guidance, but it ought to be unnecessary to be saying always – “O Lord, direct me here, and there.” Of course He will! If our common-sense decisions are not His order, He will press through them and check; then we must be quiet and wait for the direction of His presence.

    Oswald Chambers
    July 20th Devotional

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  22. just stevie says:

    Good morning CTH family!

    I have been following the information of AI and how it affects us humans physically. What I am now learning is that this also involves our emotional and spiritual selves that is a hidden danger that divides us from our individual relationship with our God! I admit, I have spent time on my gadgets, but trying to stay aware of the Spirit’s leading. As we all know, the internet is the technology (language) that our current world evolves around. I mean, what would happen if the internet went down as a whole? But that is a question for another day.

    Following is a video (16 min) that explains these thought processes I’ve been contemplating. Hope it blesses you and increases your knowledge of how to protect yourself and your children (those innocent minds). Well worth your time!

    “And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables.” 2 Timothy 4:4

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  23. @ChicagoBri says:

    #Chiraq

    7 shot at lakefront in Chicago’s best neighborhood

    http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/07/lincoln-park-seven-shot-on-lakefront.html

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    • Janie M. says:

      @CB… shocked I tell ya /s. 🙄 I moved to this state in ’72 and have noticed (via news articles) the deterioration of neighborhoods which in the past would have been considered “safe.” Remember when a “mob” of teens decided to invade the businesses located on the Magnificent Mile and harass/assault shoppers, etc., a few years back? Over the passing years they have become more emboldened. Demographics. BTW, every time I see “Lincoln Park” mentioned, it brings Steve Goodman’s humorous song, “The Lincoln Park Pirates” to mind, a Chicago classic.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Just waiting for that to happen in NOLA’s upscale Lakeview area. Po’ and de-prived thugses have been flooding the upscale neighborhoods breaking into cars wholesale. We’re going to have either a thug-homeowner or a thug-thug shooting eventually.

      The mayor has come up with the idea these feral trash don’t need to have they livses damaged by court, they jus’ needs mo’ ac-tivities after schools – horray, more midnight!

      She’s from LA and not NOLA so maybe she just thinks rampant teen thug crime is somewhere between normal and a small business opportunity for innercity teen entrepreneurs.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      I’ve been to Lincoln Park many times, that used to be a nice place to go.
      There’s no safety in the dem controlled cities.

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  24. Dora says:

    Whew!

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  25. hoosier1476 says:

    I’m a big fan of old American muscle cars. One of my favorite vintage muscle cars is the Shelby Cobra, built by Carrol Shelby for Ford Motors. This movie looks like it might be a good one:

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  26. hoosier1476 says:

    Oh yes I almost forgot again, happy Caterday, Folks! Hope you enjoy this song by the STRAY CATS:

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  27. mr.piddles says:

    My “Probably Not A Good Idea” Thought Of The Day…

    So this Area 51 thing seems to be hot ‘n heavy still. I suppose “the raid” is still on? Is that it?

    So I’m thinking… let’s just say our Government actually DOES have Alien Technology stashed away in the bowels of some Super Secret Defense Research Facility out in the middle of Nowhere, U.S.A.

    Is THAT the place you want to… you know… “raid” en masse? Is anybody remotely concerned with batteries of Alien Death Rays? Massive invisible electric shields that zap you into a bajillion particles of dust like a mosquito on a Hot August Night? Maybe the Air Force strategically positions large, mobile Time-Space Portals at certain known points of attack? Did these Facebook people think of these things? I mean, you can see how this can go totally in a direction that nobody expects… or wants. It’s all Fun ‘N Games until somebody ends up in a different Space-Time Dimension.

    I dunno. I guess I just tend toward the more “cautious” side of things. *shrug emoji*

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  28. hoosier1476 says:

    One more song before I get off this waste-time thing called “the internet.” One of my favorite groups, live. I like seeing how much they all are enjoying themselves: The women dancing are members of the symphony they were playing with:

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  29. czarowniczy says:

    As if there weren’t reasons enough to keep my GGS from following me and going into law enforcement the 10th Circuit Court just reached waaaaay up its judicial robes and popped out another one.

    Now a jury that has ZERO 1st-hand experience of exactly what the officer faced and why the officer acted as s/he did in a lethal force or injury/damage situation. The prosecutor can tell an unknowing jury that it’s felt the officer acted in haste, the officer didn’t do enough to deescalate the situation, the officer’s direct, indirect or untaken actions escalated/aggravated the situation and turned it into a deadly force situation, the officer can face criminal and/or civil charges.

    The officer arrives at the scene, a perp’s acting crazy and waving a gun around and refuses to drop the gun and surrender. The officer shoots, the perp dies and some activist or self-centered grievance group with an anti-cop agenda pushes a waffeling DA to press charges the officer’s screwed. The officer doesn’t fire, tries to talk the perp down, the perp shoots and injures/kills an innocent person the officer and the perp can be brought up on charges and the officer will lost likely be sued in civil court.

    Why bother?

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  30. Lucille says:

    Majority of migrant children have been reunited with families: Report with Sara Carter
    Fox Business – Published on Jul 19, 2019

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  31. mandy says:

    “13 Philadelphia Police Officers To Be Fired Over Racist, Offensive Facebook Posts, Commissioner Says

    PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Over a dozen Philadelphia police officers will be fired for their racist and offensive social media posts, officials announced on Thursday. Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross says 13 officers, including a sergeant, will be suspended for 30 days with intent to dismiss.

    Seventy-two officers were initially placed on administrative leave on June 19 after Plain View Project, a watchdog group, discovered the controversial posts of police officers who work in Philadelphia and in other cities around the country.”

    more at link:

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/07/18/13-philadelphia-police-officers-to-be-fired-over-alleged-racist-facebook-posts-commissioner-says/

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  32. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  33. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  34. David says:

    My American friends, I am posting here who videos about Operation Orchard. This is a documentary but I warn you that if you start it will keep you “hooked” for over 30 min. The videos are close to the truth of what happened. The names of the units involved are correct:

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  35. mandy says:

    It just happened again! I clicked onto the “all” tab at gab, and the first ‘gab’ that popped up is a person LINKING TO A CTH ARTICLE! Three links to CTH by three DIFFERENT gabbers in probably 10 or so checks of the “all” tab in two days!

    KUDOS!

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