Sunday July 14th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL. For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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  1. citizen817 says:

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  2. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    A Christian Obligation

    Three times in Rom. 1:14-16, the Apostle Paul uses the phrase “I am,” and each one carries an important message for every true believer in Christ.

    First he says in Verse 14: “I am debtor” — debtor to all men, to tell them about the saving work of Christ. But why was he indebted to people he had never even seen? For several reasons.

    First, he had in his hand what they needed to be saved from the penalty and power of sin. If I see a drunkard lying across the railroad track and I do nothing about it, am I not a murderer if he is killed by the train? If I see a man drowning and I have a life buoy in my hand but do not throw it to him, am I not a murderer if he goes down for the last time? If I see millions of lost souls about me and, knowing the message of salvation, do not tell them, am I not guilty if they die without Christ?

    Further, Paul felt himself a debtor to others, because the Christ who had died for his sins had also died for the sins of others. As he says in II Cor. 5:14,15: “Christ died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves but unto Him who died for them and rose again.”

    Finally, the Christ who had died for Paul’s sins, had commissioned him to tell others of His saving grace. Thus he says in I Cor. 9:16,17:

    “Woe is unto me if I preach not the gospel! For… a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.”

    Paul could say further what every true believer should be able to say: Not, “I am debtor, but,” but rather, “I am debtor… So, as much as in me is I am ready” (Rom. 1:15). He was ready to discharge his debt because he had that with which to discharge it — the wonderful “gospel of the grace of God.” And he did indeed make this message known to others with all that was in him.

    And now the third “I am”: “I am debtor… so I am ready… for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth…” (Ver. 16). Paul was always proud to own Christ as the mighty Savior from sin. Do you know Christ as your Savior? Do you tell others about Him?

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/a-christian-obligation/

    Romans 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
    15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
    15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

    1 Corinthians 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
    17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

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    • Pale rider says:

      I noticed something today at the gas station, I can talk to anyone about the border. May disagree, and that’s not worth it. I can talk the weather. Talk about pretty much anything except Jesus. People won’t talk about Jesus, God. They get real quiet. Even in church it’s usually borderline talk, maybe considered “milk” in the word, imo.
      So when I hear anyone speak his name in pubic, I see it takes great courage in today’s society. I live in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, I can’t imagine a liberal state. Praise God stoning is not legal here. And God bless anyone who speaks about God and his son Jesus, in any public setting. Compromise is deadly for faith, it is the “little foxes that steal the fruit”.

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  3. dogsmaw says:

    Okay, I have a wonderful family and would like to share something that was given to me as a gift from…

    https://unbrokenfaith.org

    The book was written by my cousins and they also produced the movie about one of my favorite uncles 😛

    You can also just watch the movie by rental:

    https://www.christiancinema.com/digital/movie/anchored-a-grandfathers-legacy

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

    Have a blessed Sunday, Treepers. 🙂

    Manuel Barrueco is one of the world’s very best concert guitarists (you can count the others on one hand . . . really). Almost 3 decades ago he recorded “Sometime Ago” a CD of American compositions transcribed for classical guitar. I always like Barrueco but hadn’t listened to Sometime Ago until I bought it. I immediately realized that he had recorded a genuine masterpiece. Paul Simon’s “Bookends” is the first piece on the CD. (In case your interested, Barrueco made this recording with a guitar made by Robert Ruck. I think it lends a special character to the music.)

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  5. nwtex says:

    Thank you!!

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  6. nwtex says:

    Some of you will recall this Los Angeles RV pursuit from May where the driver had two stolen dogs with her.

    Here is the happy ending. They have their furever home!! I am beyond thrilled!
    Look at those two sweetheart ❤

    https://www.insideedition.com/dogs-caught-rv-chase-los-angeles-get-adopted-54297

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  7. flame says:

    This is all you need to know why she stepped on the flag

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  8. flame says:

    Just a bunch of selfish white supremacists and racists!
    Goes well along with their personalities and hateful messages these retards are sending out!

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  9. nwtex says:

    I need an help here. I can’t think of the name a song. ugh!
    This is the lyric that has been spinning around in my head all day.

    🎶 🎶 “..and then the blue shadows will fall all over town you’ll think of me…” 🎶

    Anybody?????

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    • nwtex says:

      Aha! Never mind. It just rolled out of my head. Whew! 😎

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    • nwtex says:

      eeeegads! Not the one. I’m conflating!! However, I do like the one I thought it was.

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    • Janie M. says:

      “Any Day Now” by Ronnie Milsap. Among my favorites.

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      • dogsmaw says:

        Betcha I found one 😛

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      • nwtex says:

        Ding….ding…ding!! 🏆 That’s IT!!! 👏 I am sooo happy now 🤩 THX, Janie! ❤

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        • Janie M. says:

          YVW, nwtex. Love Ronnie. I discovered that Amazon has a 2 disc CD set with 40 of his songs (many you will probably recognize), “Smokey Mountain Rain” and “It Was Almost Like a Song” for only $13.40, a bargain.

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          • nwtex says:

            I’m done in! I get chills and my eyes always filled with tears at the beginning and ending of that song.

            “….but it’s much too sad to cry”

            I don’t know what it is about him but he really touches my soul.

            Thank YOU! Special lady

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          • nwtex says:

            Hey order it. And if you are a “Prime” member there are supposed to be some specials for 48 hours coming up real soon….maybe tomorrow. I am not a “prime” member I don’t follow crowds haha besides I only buy Amazon once in every couple of years. Just wanted to give you a heads-up in the event you were going to purchase and are a “member”.

            Now I’ve got to go back Ronnie as he SAID wants to sing “….almost like a song” for me…..a.g.a.i.n. Can you believe it….what a guy ❤

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            • Janie M. says:

              Nah, not a Prime member… (I’m too frugal). But I have over 275 items saved in my “later” file there – I absolutely love kitchen items and my tunes 😉 Will order it on Wed. Isn’t he great? Discovered him years ago on TV when I saw him playing piano and singing, “It Was Almost Like a Song.” I was smitten.

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              • nwtex says:

                Yes! He is quite special. I love the fact that songs stay with one forever and “out of the blue” they pop into your head (even just a few words…or a note or two) even tho you haven’t heard or thought about it in ages. What a gift….music…lyrics and all of it.

                Last week I spent days trying to find a song—- all I had were 2 or 3 beats (I think that’s what they are called) that kept going thru my head. Not even one word of a lyric so no way to even try to search on the internet.
                I went plowing thru my endless CD collection looking at pretty much every cover and song title (tenacious? um yes!) but nothing jumped out at me.

                And then VOILA
                Fab female saxophonist —–Candy Dulfer ❤
                – For the Love of You- 🎶

                Hahaha I have a later file as well. Probably close to the same # items as you 😉
                I've been collecting for years …..you too most likely.
                I have items in sitting in my cart. I am relieved when I go to review them and I get the notice saying “no longer available” or what ever they say. But I don’t delete.

                I have a Cuisinart Prep Board that has been sitting there forever! Um I may just purchase that because, who knows, that is one item I would hate to “loose”. I had one about 20 yrs ago and was crazy about it. hmmmm

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                • Janie M. says:

                  My favorite Candy tune is “Lily Was Here” as it resonates with me. My birth name in Japanese translated to Lily girl. My father decided to give me American family names. I learned of this name change when I was in my mid-20’s. So, Lily was here but is no more… kinda sad.

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                • Janie M. says:

                  Yeah, I have items sitting in my cart also, 2 for now – a 2 tiered 12-inch bamboo steamer (to make Chinese steamed pork buns) and a bottle of dark soy sauce. But I switch my cart items around all the time. 😝 You might need to purchase the prep board in the near future because I have received messages in the past “this seller no longer carrying this item” and then I see a higher price if I go searching for another source – bummer.

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              • nwtex says:

                Lily is a beautiful name, Janie! If you still miss her why not go back??
                You can, you know 😉

                Hey! Did you go ahead with your Ronnie purchase? I sure hope so ❤

                Do you know about the sad, sad, passing of his son? In the event you weren't aware here is an article.

                https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/todd-milsap-son-of-ronnie-milsap-dies-unexpectedly/

                I am posting something for you on the OT (7/24) 🦅

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                • nwtex says:

                  btw Candy’s “Lily was here”. Is one of my VERRRRY favorites, also!!! It brings back memories of the most spectacular period in my life. It was playing the moment a special prayer was answered and my life was filled with joy unimaginable ❤
                  I love walking down memory lane with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.

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                • Janie M. says:

                  Can’t return or incorporate my prior birth name, nwtex, too many years have elapsed.

                  BTW, looked through my CD library…have a little over 200 and found my “Ultimate Ronnie Milsap” CD (22 songs). Forgot I had it. Has all of the songs I wanted. Had to have my son connect my DVD drive in my computer last night, so I’m good to go. 😉

                  Very sad about Todd’s death, only 49. Don’t know what his medical condition was which caused it. He appeared to be very active in his father’s career. Such a loss for Ronnie.

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                • Janie M. says:

                  P.S. The name was actually Japanese, Yuriko (translates to Lily girl)

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              • nwtex says:

                Good grief—-the reply places are all taken so I’m up here somewhere hahaha

                Anyway, I’m thrilled that you found Ronnie’s tunes!! YAY! That is super cool. I bet you were happy too. Saved some loot for other things. I find it is always a good idea to review your collection every now and then. But if you are anything like me when I go on that adventure I unintentionally loose myself in a memory-lane time warp….the day or evening can just slip away (hours and hours). It’s wonderful.

                Your parents chose such a beautiful birth name for you -Yuriko. And bless their hearts for wanting to assimilate however…………….. 😦
                I bet you were stunned when you learned of the switcheroo. Janie is a very nice name and it’s YOU! 😉

                I shop at a Japanese market = “Mitsuwa Marketplace” from time to time because they have some items that I really like (+wonderful produce ) and some that I can’t find anywhere else. I even bought a fantastic Wok…I cook “everything” in it.

                AND the store is always spotless, employees are friendly, helpful, courteous and unhurried. Plus a fab food-court as well….yummy salmon. Always a pleasant experience.

                Something just came to mind…..when growing up there was a neighbor who always greeted us with a phrase, oh, boy, how am I going to spell this ….well here goes… it sounds like “ohio gaishimo” any idea?

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                • Janie M. says:

                  “Ohayou gozaimasu” is good morning.

                  I was born a few years following the end of WWII, so that may have caused my father (he was an American GI, in the Korean War, when he met my mother in Japan) to give me his American family names (mother and grandmother, I believe). He never told me that but I have my suspicions. He told me about the name switch when I was in my mid-20’s.

                  I have heard of Mitsuwa (supposed to be a chain, really nice with a lot of variety in foodstuff. Unfortunately, we only have 1 small Asian store in my town and it’s lacking in a number of categories and expensive (believe the woman who owns it is Korean). We only have a population of around 45,000 here. I used to live in Aurora, now the 2nd largest city in the state (after Chicago) with over 200,00+ residents. We have a gigantic Asian market there, Super H Mart (unfortunately more than 1/2 hr away) with a wide variety of Asian (all ethnicities) products, including produce. It sells rice in 50 lb bags 😆 It even has an adjoining Asian food court. Most of the Japanese products I buy are imported from Japan and tend to be expensive so I didn’t shop there often. I love the Japanese rice crackers, “arare rice cracker” (not crackers like saltines but an assortment of cut out dried crispy rice tidbits, basted with a soy sauce glaze, some have a strip of seaweed wrapped around them. You can in all likelihood find them at Mitsuwa, should give them a try. They’re addicting to me.

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    • amwick says:

      It was the middle of the night where I am… so sorry!!!

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    • jbt says:

      ‘Any Day Now’, Ronnie Milsap. Great song/singer.

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  10. citizen817 says:

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  11. nwtex says:

    The ppl in LA are cookoo. The highlight of his day lol —–

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  12. nwtex says:

    I’m sure everyone knows about this. I just can’t get over our brave and dedicated boys!
    Thank you ❤
    Awesome plus.
    God bless them and keep them safe.

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    • amwick says:

      The idea of a cartel submarine was really frightening… I found a good article that goes into some details about them.. here ya go: http://www.hisutton.com/Narco%20Subs%20101.html

      Basically these are not true submarines.. They are semi submersible.. This reduces their profile and makes it harder to see them with radar. They use gas powered engines that need a supply of air to run…

      Interesting video,,,,THanks…

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      • czarowniczy says:

        These aren’t new, I’ve mentioned them and the true narco subs here in the past, they go back over 20 years.

        The Columbian narco groups have imported submarine construction experts from ‘Europe’ to build actual submarines in the jungles. There were some early problems such as their being too large to efficiently move from their jungle berths to the ocean but with the amounts of drugs they can carry means that the cartels have a way and it doesn’t have to be efficient.

        The true submersible subs are found/seized every few years, I’ve been retired too long to know if any are in or have been seized in operation but the ones that were found were impressive. There were ones that were estimated to be able to dive to at least 300 feet, stay submerged for a considerable time with models designed to carry from 8 to near fifteen tons of drugs. You don’t buy those capabilities at Wally World.

        The semisubmersibles are a stopgap between true subs and top-going craft. The semis are harder to pick up on radar, carry a goodly load and are overall good performers, they’re usually spotted from the air and unless they’re really disturbing the water are still hard to spot.

        There are other methods too. Some legit oceangoing ships can have large drug-filled pods attached to their undersides by welding or magnets. When the ship gets into port the drugs can be retrieved by divers, either theirs or the Coastie/DEA divers – depends on who gets there first. There is also a separate branch of towed underwater devices meant to be towed by boats almost unseen. At some point they are detached from the boat and release a camouflaged beacon that sends an encrypted message to waiting pickup boats who zero in and retrieve the load.

        The use of military antisub aircraft to patrol for narco smugglers isn’t by accident, the size of the shipments are huge and every resource the cartels can buy is being used to increase the efficiency of drug shipments reaching US users. The fear of true submersibles being used to smuggle drugs or whatever into the US has motivated wartime patrol techniques for years, press just hasn’t covered it much except for times like these when a media-worthy event occurs.

        If you are an Asian intel type you may notice the ‘accidental’, coincidental similarity between the cartels’ semisubmersibles and the semisubmersibles the North Koreans have been using for decades to infiltrate agents into South Korea. It may be pure chance that the similarity exists, despite the NK’s part in the Asian (and otherwhere) drug trade and their propensity to sell technology and technicians to anyone with the hard cash to trade. Likewise the similarities between the cartels’ full subs and some ‘European’ designs are so coincidental…they must have been reading Popular Mechanics – yeah, that’s where they got the ideas.

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      • nwtex says:

        WOW!! thx, sleepyhead

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  13. nwtex says:

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  14. nwtex says:

    Nice touch.

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    • Janie M. says:

      Good idea and costs would be quite reasonable unlike anything a bureaucrat would have come up with. Those cyclists were pretty crazy/brave to be using bikes mingled with NYC traffic.

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  15. Dora says:

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  16. David says:

    Hello my American friends. I posted here a short video with a very rare look into the top Israeli counter terror school.

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  17. Dora says:

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    • Linda K. says:

      So now, they want to make Jesus their own, only not be Christian.

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    • Janie M. says:

      Dora, I had posted an interesting, albeit lengthy, Popular Mechanic (who knew?) article here about Jesus a few months back. It includes a drawing of his face based upon studies by forensic anthropologists.

      The Real Face Of Jesus
      Advances in forensic science reveal the most famous face in history.

      By Mike Fillon
      Jan 23, 2015

      More here:

      https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a234/1282186/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      We have the Beta Israel/Ethiopian Jews who are black as black can be and even Jews in China.
      As for the Palestinians, they were Philistines (still are if you ask me – drum roll, Smitty) they claim and therefore have a claim to Israel that predates the Jew’s. There are various UN committees making policy, using the Philistine claim, that are negating Israel’s claim to the Temple Mount and archeological sites in contested land. BUT WAIT! Vert recent DNA testing of ancient and historically confirmed Philistine burial sites is showing that the Philistines aren’t from the area, they’re from Europe and were most likely a seafaring race. Whadda ya gonna do now, UN?

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  18. just stevie says:

    THE ACCOUNT WITH PERSECUTION

    “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Matthew v. 39, etc.

    These verses reveal the humiliation of being a Christian. Naturally, if a man does not hit back, it is because he is a coward; but spiritually if a man does not hit back, it is a manifestation of the Son of God in him. When you are insulted, you must not only not resent it, but make it an occasion to exhibit the Son of God. You cannot imitate the disposition of Jesus; it is either there or it is not. To the saint personal insult becomes the occasion of revealing the incredible sweetness of the Lord Jesus.

    The teaching of the Sermon on the Mount is not – Do your duty, but – Do what is not your duty. It is not your duty to go the second mile, to turn the other cheek, but Jesus says if we are His disciples we shall always do these things. There will be no spirit of – “Oh, well, I cannot do any more, I have been so misrepresented and misunderstood.” Every time I insist upon my rights, I hurt the Son of God; whereas I can prevent Jesus from being hurt if I take the blow myself. That is the meaning of filling up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ. The disciple realizes that it is his Lord’s honor that is at stake in his life, not his own honor.

    Never look for right in the other man, but never cease to be right yourself. We are always looking for justice; the teaching of the Sermon on the Mount is – Never look for justice, but never cease to give it.

    Oswald Chambers
    July 14th Devotional

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  19. just stevie says:

    Have a Blessed Sunday!

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  20. Dora says:

    Spontaneous Combustion? Global Warming? Multiculturalism?

    Yet another church in France has mysteriously caught fire. While the Notre Dame fire (the cause of which is still being covered up) was globally reported, the other 2,000 incidents of church vandalism in France over the past two years have barely been reported outside France. And the French government doesn’t seem to be very concerned about it

    https://barenakedislam.com/2019/07/13/spontaneous-combustion-global-warming-multiculturalism/

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  21. Dora says:

    Orpheus in a Wood, 1895, Henri Martin

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  22. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.”
    1 John 5:11 (KJV)

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  23. duchess01 says:

    Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborn

    Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children

    Jesus Loves You…Run to Him

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  24. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Let us hope there can be some compromise from the Democrats
    soon … so as to avoid an unpleasant nationwide blowback.

    Unfortunately, the Progressives seem hell-bent determined
    to attack Trump and his supporters everywhere.

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  25. VinceWhirlwind says:

    The parable of The Good Samaritan highlight the necessity of “works.” The corporal and spiritual works of Mercy.

    “Faith without works is dead.”

    I need to get to work! I need to go visit my dad in the nursing home. He’s “in prison.” Years ago we had a falling out. No more dang it.

    Thank you Jesus. Your words have changed me.

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  26. F.D.R. in Hell says:

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  27. Lucille says:

    AMERICAN F 22 RAPTOR VS IRANIAN F 4 PHANTOM–INDICATOR OF THINGS TO COME !
    Defense Updates

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Why the emphasis on the Iranian F-4s? They have about 40 F-14s that are or have undergone modernization; SU-22s, many of which have gone thru modernization; homebuilt fighters and a host of fighter aircraft from other countries. We’re looking at over 200 fighters or around 250 with dual-use ground attack aircraft figured in.

      You figure in their stock of Russian air-to-air missiles and their mass produced modernized air-to-air missiles based on US designs and slung under the wings of their fighters and it ain’t a cakewalk. And then you have their ground-to-air capabilities, it’s gonna be nasty up there.

      We would most likely prevail but it would be costly, the Iranians have been in bed with the Russian munitions development people for a long time and they’ve had their own domestic R&D people in training for as long as they don’t trust their ‘partners’. We also aren’t sure about the full extent of systems and technology the Russians and Chinese have sold them.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I read that those F-4 Phantoms are really old, most delivered to Iran in the 1960’s and 1970’s when the Shah was still the leader.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Just because they’re old doesn’t mean they don’t make good AAM delivery platforms. We use the B-52s and, if I remember correctly, the last one of them was built in 1962.

          The IAF got the used F-4 and made some 400ish tweaks on it, maintaining air superiority over the various Arab air forces who were using arguably more modern aircraft.

          Not spoken about widely was a mock-combat flyoff between US and Indian combat pilots some years back. The Indian pilots flying mainline Russian fighters proved more than a match for US pilots flying our mainline jets – it ain’t always the plane.

          I feel we’d prevail but it might not be all that easy, it would be a nasty fight with the air full of AAMs and SAMs.

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  28. ATheoK says:

    Congratulations, Sundance!

    The newest piece of information comes courtesy of Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse in his piece, Flynn Case Highlights Multiple Insurance Policy Motives by DOJ and FBI Operatives. Up to this point, I confess, I bought into the story that Michael Flynn was working on behalf of Turkey and failed to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act.”

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  29. mandy says:

    https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/wholecounsel/acts_chapter_2_pt._3

    Move the circle over so you have about 19 minutes left – interesting information on the Eucharist, for those who may be interested.

    🙂

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  30. covfefe999 says:

    I was watching some kind of world news thing on public TV and there was a story about Norway and their electric vehicles. They have a very high percentage of electric vehicles there in large part because of subsidies. No VAT on the purchase of electric vehicles. Free parking. Other freebies. And guess what …. the government is losing massive revenue and now they are going to have to roll back the subsidies. It’s just not self-sustaining. There’s also a problem now of the original vehicles wearing out and so there’s a glut of them on used car lots, made worse by big auto manufacturers creating new electric models, like Mercedes. I guess nobody in Norway actually thought this through. So if you see any comments on any forums from people appluading the Norway model, let them know it’s not working out so well for them. 🙂

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Wow, I looked for any articles on the internet about this and it was almost impossible find one buried among all of the glowing reports still pushing the fable that Norway’s model is sustainable. https://www.citylab.com/environment/2018/12/norway-electric-vehicle-models-incentives-car-free-oslo/578932/ Info about the problems is mostly in the latter half of the article.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Forbes has an article:https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyalicandri/2018/12/26/electric-vehicle-subsidies-bring-unintended-consequences/#1360958267e9

        The government of Norway has been very successful at raising the level of electric cars on its roads by offering various incentives, which are, ironically, supported by an economy that is wealthy because of crude oil production. Norwegian EV drivers have access to bus lanes, discounted parking and tolls, and are exempt from various vehicle-related taxes. But Norway rolled back some of its incentives when unintended consequences surfaced. For example, when three out of four vehicles in bus lanes were electric cars, the congestion meant that Oslo’s buses couldn’t keep to their schedules, and users of “greener” mass transportation were severely inconvenienced. In another example, the Netherlands rolled back some its generous EV subsidies after it’s €19,000 euro per vehicle tax credit (USD 21,600) made the small nation the top selling European market for the ultra-expensive Tesla Model S.

        Loss of gasoline tax revenues is another unintended consequence of EVs, forcing states (even EV-leader California) to impose various fees on EV and hybrid owners to compensate for lost tax revenues. Many have argued that the burden of financing critical road projects, which are funded in large part by gasoline taxes, can’t fall on the portion of the population that owns the oldest and least fuel-efficient vehicles, while states use precious tax funds to subsidize the purchase of $100,000 sports cars (just because they are electric). As EVs proliferate, government-mandated fees are increasing in amount and frequency, but it’s unclear if these fees will be enough to offset lost gasoline tax revenue.

        This reminds me of the Obamacare debacle. If anyone had honestly thought it through at the beginning they would have realized it was not sustainable. You can’t have a self-sustaining “affordable care” system if 80% of the people buying it require partial or full subsidies and if those who are ineligible for subsidies are so offended by the high prices they’d rather pay the fine and opt out.. Johathan Gruber was the architect of this mess, right? So much for his MIT and Harvard education, he’s as dumb as a rock.

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  31. Bendix says:

    Looking at the FBI thread, and the comments about those who are too big to ever be brought to justice (To Big To Charge?), reminded me of an article i just read in the April 2019 Vanity Fair, an excerpt from Bitcoin Billionaires by Ben Mezrich.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/inside-the-mark-zuckerberg-winklevoss-twins-cage-match
    It deals with how the Winklevoss twins thought that they were cheated in deals with Mark Zuckerberg, again and again, but no matter how much evidence they had to back this up, they could not get justice, and how the MSM ignored it.

    “But back in 2008 the saga was far from over. Shortly after they’d settled, it emerged that the twins were missing critical information related to the value of the stock they had received: an internal document, known as a 409A valuation, which had been created by an independent, third-party firm. This valuation, which Facebook used to comply with I.R.S. rules and the U.S. tax code, valued the twins’ Facebook shares at a quarter of the price that Zuckerberg’s settlement offer had told them they were worth”

    “Armed with both the valuation and the knowledge of the damaging I.M.s that would eventually come out via Business Insider, the twins tried to get the case reopened. In a 2010 appeals brief, Facebook denied any misrepresentation. The twins’ effort was shot down by a California federal judge, a verdict that was later upheld by the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.”

    “Despite receiving stock potentially worth hundreds of millions of dollars, an enormous sum by any standard, the twins felt maligned. And not only that, going up against Zuckerberg in such a public fashion had taken its toll on their image in the court of public opinion. They were torn apart in the media and ridiculed by the blogosphere as spoiled and entitled brats with a nasty case of sour grapes. Whereas each time another example of Zuckerberg’s Shakespearean betrayals became public, the media seemed to look the other way.”

    That 9th Circuit doesn’t have anything to do with the justice system or upholding the law, what it does do is protect the globalists like Zuckerberg from having to obey any of the same laws we do.

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  32. Lucille says:

    “Epstein, Globalist Classrooms, and the Worldwide Nationalist Backlash”
    Published on Jul 13, 2019
    Dr. Steve Turley discusses the issues of the day with Grand Torino!

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  33. dogsmaw says:

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  34. cheering4america says:

    Infowars is reporting that Biden is dropping out of the Race for President.

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  35. Lucille says:

    Look who’s calling someone a punk…

    Grab Your Popcorn… Rahm Emanuel: AOC’s Chief of Staff Saikat Chakrabarti is a Snot-Nosed Punk (VIDEO)
    by Jim Hoft – July 14, 2019
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/rahm-emanuel-aocs-chief-of-staff-saikat-chakrabarti-is-a-snot-nosed-punk-video/

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  36. I Hear You Now says:

    test

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  37. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  38. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  39. nwtex says:

    hahaha look what just popped up.

    —-
    7 Year Anniversary Achievement
    Happy Anniversary with WordPress.com!
    You registered on WordPress.com 7 years ago.
    Thanks for flying with us
    What?? Is this thing airborne? 🧐
    That’s a line we used when we worked in the sky.
    “Achievement” HUH?? Ummm….well ok.

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  40. SwampRatTerrier says:

    FYI

    Obama-Era DHS Officials Implore Democrats to Pull Back from Border Decriminalization Positions

    Even Obama-era Democratic officials are calling out the left’s position on border decriminalization for what it is: open borders.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/obama-era-dhs-officials-implore-democrats-to-pull-back-from-border-decriminalization-positions/

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