October 31st – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #650

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1,928 Responses to October 31st – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #650

  1. kea says:

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  2. Boomer says:

    Trump gets it. The citizenship issue is much bigger than meets the eye.

    When the SCOTUS determines that you need one parent to be a CITIZEN then what would it take to be a National Born Citizen?

    If you read the federalist papers it is clear the at that time the founders intended citizenship to pass from the father.

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    • WSB says:

      There is a contingent that believe two citizen parents are required to pass onto the offspring.

      Will be interesting.

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      • sunnydaze says:

        On the face of it, that seems a bit harsh. It can take a loooong time for a person to get citizenship.

        Sheesh I know quite a few people right now who are married to Americans, here legally, have a child or two born here, and who are still working on getting their own citizenship finalized.

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        • WSB says:

          It is all about allegience, especially because of the completely foreign style of government the US is as designed with respect to the rest of the world.

          Remember, we, the citizens ARE the government. When new people from the corners of the earth enter and start voting for measures they do not understand about America or want to see harm to America, this is now where we are at…almost a total collapse of the country. And then where would the world be?

          Think about it. Look at the destruction of the US by the Federal Reserve ( Britain, France and company) and the other facets of infiltration…communists in our schools, propagandists in our media.

          Now that I finally realize Britain and the rest of the European monarchies have been at war with the US since the Revolution, I can completely understand our founders knew there would be infiltration, unless there was pure allegiance passed down from that generation to the next.

          And we have already unfortunately tested that …and failed.

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        • WSB says:

          Just a case in point, Sunny.

          Mexico is our direct neighbor. However, the people who come across that border into our country have a heritage of human sacrifice and child rape. We, the US writ large, are the exact opposite.

          That should scare the living daylights out of anyone who is vetting ANY foreigner to enter our country.

          These people may look like us, but their ancestry is a frightening infiltration that will destroy our fragile ideology, freedoms and protection of the individual.

          You should really read Ann Coulter’s book, ‘Adios America’.

          Ann is spot on teaching us how completely foreign our country’s structure is from EVERY other country on earth. Very few pwople should really be allowed into this country if we want to save its influence on the rest of the world.

          President Trump will use this advantage while he is in office, unlike Obama who tried to destroy the very beacon that the US is.

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        • WSB says:

          sunny, I was morphing into the natural born argument for POTUS, so please accept my posts in that respect! Certainly, citizenship of an offspring can be granted to a single US citizen parent.

          My other post with respect to vetting anyone seeking permanent residency in the US is still pertinent, IMHO!

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      • Judith says:

        Born to two US citizen parents would be a “natural born” citizen. This is the requirement to run for POTUS. Since Donald Trump married foreign-born wives who did not acquire citizenship before giving birth, only his daughter Tiffany, born to an American mother and father, would be eligible.

        Everyone with at least one American citizen parent is a citizen, but they can’t be president unless they pass the two citizen parent test.

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        • WSB says:

          Yes, I should have clarified. The single citizen parent situation for someone who is NOT running for president would cut into any dual passport holder. That needs to be stopped completely.

          Regarding a natural born citizen, Tiffany is the only one viable, unfortunately, from Trump’s immediate family.

          The grand kids will be eligible though. Little Theodore might be it. Or Kia, SP. PT takes to her and she seems to have quite a bit of his personality!

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        • BebeTarget says:

          Where does that leave Obama????

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  3. bakocarl says:

    The explanations of the Senator who principally wrote the 14th Amendment in 1866 have been referred to as being definitive in settling the birthright citizenship issue. Well, I don’t think it’s quite that simple.

    In the 1898 case of Wong Kim Ark, the supreme court found specifically that “[A] child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States.”

    In the majority opinion, Justice Horace Gray wrote “The Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States.”

    So, it’s a bit more complicated.

    And, from the article “The Supreme Court has not directly addressed whether the Citizenship Clause necessarily requires U.S. citizenship to be granted to persons born in the United States to unlawfully present aliens”.

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44251.pdf

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    • Joseb says:

      Is the child of an invading general and wife a citizen?

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      • bakocarl says:

        No. From the article . . . “or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory.”

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        • phoenixRising says:

          The article is written by Alexandra M. Wyatt (“Andie”), a Legislative Attorney… that is, one who researches for Congress critters…

          She is not even law clerk to a judge, much less clerk to a Supreme Court Justice.

          I take her article with a grain of salt.

          Additionallly, I would read the SCOTUS dissenting opinion on the Arks…

          and WSB’s question is important…were the Arks legal US residents, that is, were they here legally?

          And I would pose a 2nd question: Had the Arks applied for citizenship?

          There are more questions, but it is late, and I am old…

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          • bakocarl says:

            As far as I understand, the U.S. at the time had laws on the books actually preventing Chinese nationals specifically from be coming citizens. So the parents, during a recession, decided to return to China, leaving Wong in San Francisco.

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          • bakocarl says:

            “old”? I hope to become old some day. Right now I’m a young 73.

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          • bakocarl says:

            Chief Justice Fuller made many points in his dissent of the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark that I hope prevail when our current Supreme Court takes on the issue. We definitely need to limit the scope of the 14th Amendment to not allow, at the minimum, illegal aliens to break our laws in order to create U.S. citizens for their purposes.

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    • WSB says:

      The Arks were legal US residents, no?

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      • bakocarl says:

        Yes. Legal residents with a permanent domicile. Perhaps a very, very important point as opposed to aliens who have broken our laws by not using the procedures required to visit or work in this country.

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        • WSB says:

          I grew up with a girl whose grandmother was a legal resident from Britain. She could not vote, however had she been here and had a baby at her younger age, that then would be a question if the father was in the same position.

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        • phoenixRising says:

          Bingo… that is a whole other ballgame.
          POTUS is speaking of ILLEGAL immigrants who are pregnant and the child is born on US soil… the child is not legal… as the parents are not. Thus the child has no claim to citizenship.

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          • bakocarl says:

            I hope that the “ILLEGAL immigrant” argument carries the day. Hopefully, babies born while parents are just visiting or on a temporary work permit also will NOT become citizens at birth.

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    • alligatriot says:

      President Trump knows how complex this issue is and, IMO, is framing his decisions in order to advance the question to the Supreme Court.

      The fact that he is timing the issue to coincide with mid-term elections and there just happens to be a mob of several thousand aliens vowing to violate America’s border – well, I’m sure that’s just a coincidence……

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  4. sunnydaze says:

    So there’s a woman at #WalkAway who’s got a #MEXIT (for Mexican Americans) thing starting and here’s a post commenting on it:

    ….” I was even a part of “the young democrats” in middle school! So I basically grew up being told that the democrats were the party for the poor!

    LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT THEY MEANT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO KEEP US POOR, LOL!.”……..

    Great way to think about that #DemTalkingPoint.

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  5. dufrst says:

    Vicious ad, just vicious!

    Trump is playing to win! Get out the vote! The stakes are too high! MAGA!!

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  6. sunnydaze says:

    Scott’s coming to Orlando Friday to help out with the FL election/GOTV.

    He’ll be here til Nov. 6th and how much you wanna bet if he has a talk, he’ll get more peeps than the Bernie/Gillum thang today?!

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  7. wheatietoo says:

    Have you seen this? …I had not seen this yet.

    Wow. These people are violent predators who are coming here to prey on us.

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  8. phoenixRising says:

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  9. phoenixRising says:

    HEADS UP

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  10. InAz says:

    I am playing with a kitten that was abandoned by the mother. I wasn’t paying attention to what was on television.

    I heard George Soros name. The program is that commie Samantha Bee. She is pushing that Soros is a Holocaust survivor, editing things President Trump and Sarah Sanders said, pushing that Republicans are white supremacists and Nazis, etc

    She said how can Soros be a Nazi if he is a Jew. Brainwashing the low info people.

    She is pushing lies about most Republican candidates…. pushing all are Nazis

    Obvious the commie left media have their talking points to push

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    • wheatietoo says:

      Samantha Bee is horrible!

      And Soros was *not* a Holocaust survivor…he was a member of the Hitler Youth who helped target Jews to be arrested!
      Soros himself has admitted this!

      These lying leftist liars are just so infuriating.

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    • Joemama says:

      What is interesting is that the deep state suddenly feels a need to protect Soros. This means he is scared that he is going to be exposed and possibly prosecuted.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      Yeah, he survived the Holocaust all right…by helping to rat out (and disenfranchise of their belongings) his own people.
      And he said it was the best time of his life!

      How many people would 1. rat out a bunch of any people (knowing full well it would be a death sentence for them); 2. your own people to boot; 3. help to rob them on top of it and…say basically “hey yeah, had a great time!”?
      What kind of sick mo does something like that?

      Yeah, he’s a real “survivor” all right…

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  11. phoenixRising says:

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  12. phoenixRising says:

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  13. Troublemaker10 says:

    More voters associate with Trump than GOP: poll
    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/414221-more-voters-associate-with-trump-than-gop

    Excerpt:

    The Harris Poll, conducted with Harvard University’s Center for American Political Studies, found that 46 percent of Republican registered voters surveyed said they associate with Trump, compared to 25 percent who say they associate with GOP itself.

    Eighteen percent said they associate with both, and 9 percent replied they associate with either.

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  14. Jlwary says:

    Did Gab get the boot? They have a message that they no longer have their platform? Smh… 😦

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    • trishinsouthernillinois says:

      Synagogue shooter used GAB, so therefore, GAB had to be shut down. /s

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      • trishinsouthernillinois says:

        Or was it the fake bomb sender? One of those two.

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      • Jlwary says:

        Most INSANE bs I have ever heard… wow. Wow…

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        • Lady in Red says:

          Booted by their hosting provider, GoDaddy, I think? Lefties.

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          • jrapdx says:

            Actually the hosting provider was Joyent. GoDaddy was the domain registrar. No question the “no-platforming” of Gab was completely corrupt and the result of collusion among the corporate players. PayPal was involved too, kicked Gab off the financial services platform. The “tech” companies need to be investigated for their anticompetitive behavior, this sort of thing shouldn’t be allowed.

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            • Lady in Red says:

              That’s right, thank you for clarifying! I think if we hold on to the House and Senate, with gains, we will see some action on this behavior. Fingers crossed, anyway.

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              • jrapdx says:

                Properly done, it would be a true godsend. Having real competition in these spaces would be the answer. I can’t help but think when monopolies exist something is wrong because it’s natural for competition to arise when there’s a lot of money to be made.

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  15. kea says:

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