“No More Hesitation” – Homeland Security and Police Dept. Request Targets For Shooting Practice To Help Desensitize Law Enforcement To Shooting Average Americans…

The Department of Homeland Security has ordered and is storing billions of rounds of ammunition.   Recently they ordered a series of practice targets called “No More Hesitation“.  The purpose of shooting lifelike targets is to condition a person to shoot a real person without hesitation.  They have ordered over $2,000,000.00 dollars worth of these and similar targets.   Ask yourself why they would want these?

Targets - no more hesitation - gun owners

Here is the company responding to a phone call inquiry:



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154 Responses to “No More Hesitation” – Homeland Security and Police Dept. Request Targets For Shooting Practice To Help Desensitize Law Enforcement To Shooting Average Americans…

  1. Rich Branson says:

    Disturbing to say the least.

    • Bongo says:

      Extremely disturbing. Enough so they should be publicly denounced and not used by any government agency. I would like to see a lot of publicity about this so everyone is aware what Obama’s government is up to.

      • LHlaredo says:

        When had they had a hesitation problem shooting at anybody, on the contrary they should be given a color blind test by the look at things.

    • Good Shoot! says:

      This is what happens when you hesitate to shoot an old man holding a gun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ
      Train so you are not surprised. When you walk into a home on a domestic call and the pregnant woman has a gun, if you start to question the image you see, you will get shot.

      • RlLRork says:

        Yes, but that’s not what these targets are about, and isn’t it amazing, not one od these targets is black?

      • rukidding says:

        I don’t get your post. So you are ok with shooting pregnant women? And that pig in your video – that harassed that veteran deserved what he got. He picked a fight and lost. As you will lose when you pick a fight with us. At least we know what side you are on turd See you down-range. :-)

        • Steven Lynch says:

          what the hell are you talking about? The whole damn comment was a sarcasm on how I feel. I hate the government for taking our freedom and the police state at large. It is a shame that young men out of the war get used to be the enforcement of the police stae t when the real enemy are men who set behind desk.

  2. John Galt says:

    I wonder how O’Mara feels about these? Remember, he was offended by faceless hoodie targets.

    • Lou says:

      it’s not okay to shoot hooded characters, only little kids and pregnant women. it’s kind of weird that all the characters were non AA, and especially no ghetto women with gold teef showing their attitude.

  3. Chip Bennett says:

    But, but, but… but Sarah Palin put crosshairs on a congressional district map! Who’s the real threat here?

  4. michellc says:

    No hesitation to shoot pregnant women, young children and elderly ladies. Really what else is there to say?

  5. John Galt says:

    Targets represent white women, children and old men. However:

    Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

    When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

    Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

    The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Yup. Only white targets. DHS is raaaaaacciiiissssssss.

      • michellc says:

        Well to be fair it might have been hard to find a photograph where a black man was holding a gun correctly.
        Okay, I’ll smack myself with a ruler now for that rude comment.

        • WeeWeed says:

          No, no, don’t do that – in fact, I was just coming back here to add that the targets would be even MORE raaaaaaaacciiiisssssss if they put that stupid raaaaaaacciiiiissssss writing all over their lily-white faces like that article from yesterday.

          • Chip Bennett says:

            Silly WeeWeed. White-guilt Liberals are Useful Idiots, and would never be targeted by Big Sister.

          • michellc says:

            I showed those to my son and he said he’d like to see them try to write that crap on his face. That he had nothing to be guilty over, God made him and he didn’t sell them as slaves their own kind did that and he didn’t buy them as slaves and he never made anyone sit at the back of the bus. People who feel guilty for being white are spitting in the face of the God who made them.

          • doodahdaze says:

            Now…think what Judge Sharpton would do if any of them were Black. Acccckkkk! Ataaaack!

    • boricuafudd says:

      JG, You are quoting facts,
      Ain’t nobody got time for that!

    • Wraith says:

      You’re under the mistaken impression that this has anything to do with fighting crime.

    • terryg8 says:

      These targets are not about crime at all! These are about law abiding folks (of all races) who will be compelled by executive order to surrender their firearms. DHS will take the lead in the confiscation. Some folks will not want to surrender their firearms. They must be eliminated “without hesitation”. DHS is the Obama equivalent of Hitler’s SS. They are not the military. They are not the Police. They answer first and foremost to the President. Anyone who cannot see that is blind!

  6. diwataman says:

    Their servers are very busy, they must be happy.


    Are all their people targets white people?

    They have zombie, monster and alien targets as well, lolz, I can see how that would be useful to law enforcement.

    • doodahdaze says:

      What if they had a Black Crip/Blood Gang Thug, in a Hoodie. What do you think would happen? They are down to pregnant white wimmin. Pretty bad. Pregnant white wimmin have no clout.

  7. Coast says:

    Why did the male person doing the interview try to get the company to justify the governement actions? Simply ask the questions…who ordered what, how many, what other types of target photos, etc. What’s the point of asking them to justify actions of others?

  8. manoncanal says:

    Muslms and black will rule of our country very soon.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Looks like, since whitey seem to be the “target.”

      • michellc says:

        Looks like white women and little white boys are the targets. It’s kind of funny in a way though that us little women who don’t have enough sense to know when we’re about to be raped are considered their greatest threat.

        • WeeWeed says:

          ‘Specially them PREGNANT ones….. feckin’ lowlife raaaaaaacciiiiissssss pond scum. DHS, not the ladies. :evil:

          • michellc says:

            I guess they’ve been watching the news and have seen how many women not only pack heat but how many don’t hesitate to shoot intruders.
            I had a liberal guy tell me awhile back that all us red state women think we’re Annie Oakley so I wonder if we’re first on their list?

          • czarowniczy says:

            From the new Lon Horiuchi line of FBI-approved desensitization targets? Or is my ‘we’ve seen these kinds of shootings before’ reference too obscure? From working with the Feds I don’t think desensitizing them to shooting common civilians is the problem, just looking at relatively recent situations like Ruby Ridge and Waco should show that, it’s more a matter of getting them to hit what they shoot at. just because you give some washed-in-the-blood-of-the-PC hire a gun does not necessarily man he/she can effectively use it. Remember when the FBI transitioned from the .357 revolver to the S&W semiauto in 10mm? They shot so poorly that they dropped the entire S&W series and for years you could buy one of the surplussed FBI-marked guns at many gun stores. Their marksmanship skills may account for the huge stock of ammo they’ve bought. The FBI pistol qualification, last time I bumped into it, was 50 rounds total fired from various positions at a standard ‘Q’ target. You only needed 86% to get a ‘go’ – that’s a lotta misses with bullets potentially flying around off target. Another way to look at it is a 15% civilian casualty rate is also a ‘go’. Amazing what you can do when you’re immune to liability suits.

            • ytz4mee says:

              I don’t think Lon needed any “desensitization” training. He was GTG.

              • czarowniczy says:

                I was referring to the line being his, not that he needed any training; if anything he needs a Cornhusker’s callous removal job of epic proportion. His little role in Waco is still buried under concrete in the FBI’s basement, I can’t help but wonder what we’d have found had the place not been torched.

        • ctdar says:

          Intentional targeting to exterminate the WASPs

          • elvischupacabra says:

            Sh!t, if we’re gone, who’ll fund the Welfare State?

            • maggiemoowho says:

              :lol: I’m picturing Detroit right now.

            • michellc says:

              Speaking of the welfare state I heard an ad on the radio today from the USDA saying if you’re hispanic or a woman and were wrongly denied a farm loan between 198? and 2000 to contact them. What the heck is up with that?

    • doodahdaze says:

      They might rule 20 square miles of it. But it is lots bigger than that.

    • manse jolly says:

      a lot of blood will be spilled before that day comes and i mean a lot, we’re ready down south if you ever thought the last civil war was hell we’re gonna open hell for you everyone i know has been buying ammo for years and believe me they are just itching for it to come

  9. retire2005 says:

    My guns will never be illegal weapons. Since I understand the position of the left, my guns will be undocumented security equipment.

  10. doodahdaze says:

    Yougottabekiddingme. Is this for real?

    • WeeWeed says:

      Is the ammo they bought for real??

      • waltherppk says:

        You betcha this is for real, and the DHS ammo buyout because they have priority order fulfillment status (by “law” of course) has adversely affected “civilian” ammo availability which is another prong of the governments UNCONSTITUTIONAL brazen attack on the second amendment, as an apparent preparation for unleashing of a despotic police state complete with camps and death squads. Anyone who owns anything worthwhile that can be seized by government likely enjoys a higher risk of being targeted by their own government for liquidation including ultimate solution of the variety Hitler would have advocated, all “for the greater good of the homeland” based upon any of a selection of canned and preplanned false pretenses of course. What we are beholding is a crime cartel in a sequence proceeding to operational and deployment status. Generally when preparations for war are being made in earnest then war is what is being planned.

  11. elvischupacabra says:

    This is a seriously flawed endeavor for a free society.

  12. CrankyinAZ says:

    I saw this on another website just half an hour ago (Lunch break is going fast!!!) I still can’t freakin’ believe it!!! Why in God’s name would they want this!!! Because we want to mow down children!! Pregnant women!!! Old people!!! Good Lord!!! What the hell is wrong with these people!???!!!???

    Seriously… A cop is going to want to shoot down a small boy with a gun, rather than talk him down? Disarm him? A teenage girl? Shoot first – ask questions later? What is this country coming too? This is one of the sickest things I’ve ever seen. Violence pornography… at it’s finest. Wonder if the SS (Hitler’s SS) used specialized cutouts of Jews, Jewish children, families, etc. to practice on? Makes me wonder….

    • boricuafudd says:

      They are training the LEO for the great gun confiscation coming soon. At least they understand that it is not just males that have guns, but all types of Americans.

      • elvischupacabra says:

        Think a minute. How many local, state and county po-lice do you think would target his or her fellow citizens? The cops I know, and that’s more than a hand full, would never do this. Only in countries where they hire criminals to act as police does this happen.

        No, what’s coming is Obama’s “civilian security force” which he described to us in July of 2008. Those people will be criminals.

    • WeeWeed says:

      It’s a furthering of Wm. Ayers plan to kill a certain percentage of us, imho – the elderly will be easier (to start with) and there’s the added benefit of “saving” their social security and medicare costs. Bet me!

      • texan59 says:

        Mr. Ayers wants to get rid of at least 25M folks. Let’s see, there are 10K boomers retiring every day for the next 20 years. One out of three, not including the existing old-timers. Guess they’d call that a good start. This ain’t good boys and girls. I’m thinkin’ they are arming the DHS thugs in case the military won’t go along with their little game. The TSA sure are gung-ho about their power. :evil: :evil:


      • manse jolly says:

        if they start shooting civillians they wont last long and neither will the ones that ordered them to . millions will rise up and all their little trick weapons that hurt your ears are make your skin feel hot will not help them

    • Good Shoot! says:

      Cranky in AZ… go to youtube, watch this police dash cam video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoI4G1fWmEQ and watch the police officer die because he was never trained to shoot an old man. No cop ever wants to shoot anyone. Cops shoot to stay alive, pure and simple. If someone has a gun pointed at a cop, that person is a threat. Cops can move to cover and give orders to drop the gun, but if the person refuses, the cop’s hand is forced. And if the cop has never been trained he will hesitate

    • debbifaye99 says:

      Nazis and Ukranians amused themselves with varied totures that to them, rose to the level of sport.
      Burying Jewish children alive (sometimes disinterring them moments before they expired), grafting
      crosses on the faces of rabbis, synagogue burnings (often forcing congregants to torch their own
      sanctuaries), public floggings, target practice (shooting bottles placed on Jews’ heads or under their
      arms), and siccing man-eating attack dogs on Jews (who were left to die without a coup de grâce)
      The Lemberg Mosaic (2011) – Jakob Weiss. page 224/5

      • debbifaye99 says:

        “the Germans educated the Hitler Youth by training these young fascists to shoot at living
        targets-at children specially handed over to the Hitler Youth to serve as targets.”

        “Extraordinary State Commission established that, in Lvov, the Germans:
        “Spared neither men, women, or children. The adults were simply killed on
        the spot; the children were given to the Hitler Youth for target practice.”

  13. Pancho says:

    They may get the first shots off, but not the last………

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  15. FYI–Upcoming back-to-back events: this Saturday’s national “Day of Resistance” in support of gun rights and the 2nd Amendment, and this FRIDAY’S national “Day of Action” to reduce gun violence (being promoted by “Organizing for Action”, the group-formerly-known-as “Organizing for America”).

    Three guesses which one I’m attending.

  16. Several years ago I took gun training in a “shoot house.” Each room in the house had a target. Some were innocents, some were threats, and some involved both threats and hostages. I had to make very quick decisions about whether or not to shoot. As I was “slicing the pie” to enter one of the rooms, I saw that the “target” was a woman. I let down my guard. As I entered the room. I realized she was a threat. Had it been real life, I’d have been dead. Yes, there may be times when it’s necessary to shoot young women, even pregnant women, or boys, any of whom might be threats. Better that the cops (or anyone else) not be fooled by first appearances, but verify whether they are faced with a real threat, and if so, shoot regardless whether that threat is a woman or a boy.

    • doodahdaze says:

      That is what I was thinking. Are these the targets to not shoot? But no. They have guns. You shoot anything with a gun pointed in your direction. These are targets to shoot. On the quick. This looks pretty scary.

    • CrankyinAZ says:

      I’m not naive to the situations that the police can get into. I used to work for the Dept. of Corrections (many years ago). I know that women, and even children can be violent, especially if alcohol or drugs are involved. However, I think there is something wrong (sick even) with creating targets with children on them. This is pushing an agenda and desensitizing the police into shooting women and children.

  17. jello333 says:

    This is shocking!

    Uh no, wait…. now that I think about it, it’s not at ALL surprising. After all we’ve seen happening over the past decade, and getting even worse over the past few years… nope, it’s about par for the course. :(

  18. Z/SGT says:


  19. maggiemoowho says:

    Accessory kits sold separately
    Each kit includes:
    1 box of Crayola Multicultural Crayons
    1 hooded sweatshirt
    1 Hijab
    1 Burqa
    1 Coolie Hat

  20. Mark Johnson says:


    Think this through. These are dummy targets that flash up during “shoot-don’t shoot” drills.

    Example: target of bad guy pops up with a gun… You shoot quickly, hit target, target goes down. Just as quickly the innocent bystander target pops up. Adrenaline still pumping … Exercise self control. Don’t shoot. Next target… Think quick… Is it a good guy or a bad guy? React quickly but smartly.

    Think it through people

    • Chip Bennett says:

      I don’t think you looked all that closely at the targets.

      Innocent-bystander targets aren’t pointing guns at you.

      • Mark Johnson says:

        What you don’t understand is that these targets are interspersed with other targets. Often the same models you see here will at other times pop up in the same pose ith a cell phone or a soft drink and it the job of the shooter to quickly identify where the threat lies. These examples you are looking at we’re purchased in bulk with twenty other varieties. The dishonest person who originally started this post is trying manipulate a fevered pitch of paranoia. You have to look at the big picture. Be a Berean.
        I would like to add that often in these target catalogues you will also see models of stereotypical bad looking thugs holding a cell phone and then up pops the model of the pregnant gal with a gun… This is designed to keep an officer on his toes and too teach self control so that innocents aren’t killed.

        Work with me here… I’m no voice for the left.

        • sundance says:

          …..”The dishonest person who originally started this post is trying manipulate a fevered pitch of paranoia”….

          Excuse me. ??????

          • texan59 says:

            :shock: :shock:

          • Mark Johnson says:

            Who ever originally started this post either posted it too quickly after only reading the forward instead of the whole book, or they read the whole book but just selected those pictures which would elicit a paranoid response. Either way the full picture hasn’t been revealed. I call that lying by omission. This is serious stiff and demands a responsible component. We can’t be like the left. We need to be well studied rational Bereans.

            • michellc says:

              If you came into my house calling me a liar, you wouldn’t be asked nicely to leave.

              You obviously missed the guns in the pictures. I have many family members in LE and what you’re talking about is not pregnant women with guns, it’s innocents mixed in with the bad guys. So maybe it’s you who needs to know what the heck you’re talking about and learn some blooming manners and don’t come into people’s houses calling them liars.

              • Mark Johnson says:

                Either they are picking and choosing in order to paint the picture a certain color, which makes them more than a liar.., it is evil. If that is not the case then they haven’t done all the research, before posting which makes them lazy.

                • jello333 says:

                  Do you even know….? Uh, nevermind… I’ll just sit back and watch…. ;)

                • michellc says:

                  To be as polite as I know how, you are obviously a little slow.

                  One more time and you might want to read slowly so you get it, coming into someone’s home and calling them a liar is very bad manners and continuing with such bad manners in my house would have you thrown out on your rear after being smacked in the mouth.

                  Now if you could comprehend much, you would know who made the post and frankly although I’m nothing more than a guest here, you’re really ticking me off by not only calling SD a liar but evil.

                  • Mark Johnson says:

                    Is it just that you want to believe that these targets are evidence of a New World Order through selective editing by The Alex Jones crowd?
                    Wouldn’t truth be better? Targets like these have been part of my training for over twenty years. I’m not calling anyone a liar unless they purposefully posted while knowing different. I can understand posting it w/o fully understanding the whole picture through mistaken zeal to get the word out, but once the truth is known we have the responsibility to back down and be the champion of that instead. If you knew me you would know I’m no voice of the left. I am an advocate of truth though. I would grieve if I ever mistakenly misled anyone.

                  • ytz4mee says:

                    Targets like these

                    “Like these?”

                    Specifically “like these” ? Pregnant ladies, old grannies, toddlers?

                    Please advise which company has been producing targets EXACTLY “like these” for over twenty years.

                    I’ll wait.

                • ytz4mee says:

                  Or you’re here on a specific mission to disrupt and discredit. What are you afraid of? Are you asserting that this company does not exist, and that the order request for these specific “non-traditional” targets was not made? Please clarify. Otherwise I shall surmise your statements, beginning with the very odious and disingenuous salutation “friends”, were specifically constructed to deliberately sow distrust and deflect from the issue, which is going viral on social media as we speak.

                  • michellc says:

                    You called sundance either stupid, a liar or evil. You were the one who didn’t look at the targets and no LE has not for years used pregnant women holding a gun as a “don’t shoot” target. The company brags about serving DHS, DOJ and LE. You came here for a purpose and it certainly wasn’t as a friend.

            • sundance says:

              Did you listen to the phone call? No interpretation is needed. The “Targets” were specifically requested by Law Enforcement. The Targets, prior to the request, were not part of the traditional offering…..


              • michellc says:

                You’re being much nicer than I could be to him.

                • ctdar says:


                • Mark Johnson says:

                  You are saying that LEOs haven’t been shooting at these targets for years? You base this on what exactly? Your many years of being a range master? If you don’t know for sure it’s okay to say “I don’t know.” If you don’t know and say you do because you want to believe… Well that puts you in a different category altogether.

                  • jello333 says:

                    WITH GUNS. I think that’s the key here. Of course everyone knows targets of “old ladies”, “little kids”, etc are sometimes used in “shoot, don’t shoot” scenarios. But that’s not the issue here. What IS the issue, is the guns… guns aimed at the person doing the target practice or “drill”.

        • yadent says:

          A pregnant lady in her own bedroom? A robed lady in her own kitchen? A little kid in front of a tree with a possible squirt/laser gun? The other two girls-possible legit targets. My question is, where are the targets of paper delivering ladies and surfer-like dudes in pick-ups that the LAPD has obviously utilized? I asked my officer sibling about these ‘targets’. He just laughed and said he has not encountered such ‘targets’ in his simulated training or in 16+ years of real life.

        • debbifaye99 says:

          I don’t think the admin of the site is dishonest, there are many sites, blogs and forums where the conscionability of these products are being discussed. I can understand the need to steer away from stereotyping for keeping an leo on toes, but the whole set of these targets points to an agenda to desensitize and also serves to instill fear into leos that these types of citizens pose a threat.

    • Burnt Toast says:

      Knew a guy years (20+) ago that was on a ‘special weapons and tactics’ team… they have an annual competition in a live fire shoot house with “shoot-don’t shoot” targets. All the unarmed targets were famous people… The competition rules were low-ball poker.

      So, I would hope these are sick humor politically incorrect, but not based on product descriptions.

    • ytz4mee says:

      Here ya go, “friend”.

      • Wraith says:

        MJ…your sorry-ass attempt at infitration is so pathetically transparent it’s laughable. You really do need more training.

  21. Burnt Toast says:

    I got through totheirhomepage. Nice selection oftarget catagories, but I do not see the “No Hesitation” line… hmmm, maybe it is here under the “Home Invasion” lie…

    Ahhh, it hung up again…

  22. Mark Johnson says:

    Okay… Mystery solved… The original post came from Infowars. They are as reliable as Coast to Coast with George Noory. Now I know why it seemed so nuts.

    Lesson learned Sundance?

    • Burnt Toast says:

      Well, there you go. Obviously a complete fabrication. We can all go to sleep now.

    • ytz4mee says:

      The “original post” did not come from Infowars. The information has been verified and posted on a variety of sites, including Breitbart. Are you refuting that the targets have been produced and supplied on the specific request of certain LEO agencies? Please cite.


      • Mark Johnson says:

        Not refuting, I know these types of targets are made since I’ve been shooting at them for over twenty years. They haven’t been ordered for the reasons alluded to in the original report. This is part of routine shoot-don’t shoot situations. Come on out sometime and watch us train.

        • ytz4mee says:

          Let me guess. You never took a logic class in college, did you.
          You again assert “these types of targets are made…. twenty years”.
          Which means you have specifically shot a target with a pregnant lady, grannie, or cute toddler with a gun. EXACTLY like these. Not “similar”. EXACTLY.

          And then, the next statement is: “they haven’t been ordered….”

          So how did you shoot targets EXACTLY like these for the “past twenty years” if they’ve “never been ordered”.

          That’s some powerful juju right there.

          I’ll wait.

          • Mark Johnson says:


            Dang… Outfoxed…

            Do you think perhaps that there are several vendors for these types of items?

            Believe what you are going to believe people, I’m still going to go to work tomorrow and have to distinguish between a good guy and a bad guy by watching their mannerisms and what they have in their hands. Can I tell you a story about a nice young lady who stabbed my friend in the chest simply because he was an LEO? Can I tell you about the clean cut young blond teen who pulled a gun out from under his seat and pointed it at me?

            What do in these situations folks? How do you train and prepare? Do any of you know what the heck you are talking about regarding these life and death situations?

            Believe what you are going to believe. I’m going to make sure I come home after my shift. If that means that a potential threat like the nice old man in the hall with a shotgun pointed at me goes to his final judgement, then so be it. I would take no joy in it, but I’m going home.

            • ytz4mee says:

              Yeah, you’re so right. /s/
              Thanks for the lecture. No, none of us here would know anything about the hazards faced by honest and ethical LEO’s on the line.
              Nope. /s/
              Let alone those who have trained professional men at arms to operate in actual hot urban combat situations.

              So glad you moseyed on down here to set us all straight. Whew!


              • boricuafudd says:

                I spoke to my uncle who is a retired lieutenant in the Puerto Rico police department, he ran the narcotics unit for a few years and trained with SWAT teams from the mainland and the FBI. This is what he told me, during some training missions similar images are used, he could not remember any old ladies or pregnant women, but he kid, the young mom, and the teen or similar images have been used.

                Hope this helps.

                ps He also said that this was advance type of training for elite units, not the ordinary type of training.

              • LadyRavenSDC says:

                A possibility here? All that follows are direct quotes from this article – http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52923

                First of all, two days after the inauguration, at exactly 7:00 a.m. on January 23, something called “the Cyber-Warriors for Obama Project” was activated.

                I was shown a white, three-ring binder with Obama’s circular campaign logo imprinted on the outside of the binder with the name “Cyber-Warriors for Obama” printed in blue across the top. Inside were the names and e-mail addresses of 3,575 “cyber assets,” or “warriors,” listed

                It was tabbed, and one section with the word “targets” had a list of religious web sites, web sites I recognized as Christian. Another section was a listing of conservative Internet sites. There was another tab with the label “problem sites” that seemed quite extensive. I looked at that section, and it was broken down further into “birther” sites, “pro-gun” sites, “anti-abortion” sites, just to name a few.

                Lastly, there was a “reference section,” which included statistics, specific language to use to marginalize different posters, and effective methods to discredit people while maintaining a sense of legitimacy.

                I read one paragraph that listed circumstances when the “asset” was only to monitor but do not disrupt without authorization. There was another section titled “Divert, Disrupt and Destroy,” listing “how to’s” in certain cases.

                • Good Shoot! says:

                  Why did you not immediately volunteer for this program, infiltrate it and provide the world with proof of the plan?

                  • WeeWeed says:

                    It’s a quote from the referenced article.

                  • LadyRavenSDC says:

                    Last time I looked I was not privy to going’s on in the white house, nor am I in the habit of hanging out at democrat locations. Additionally the first I found out about it was two months after the hiring seems to have been done.

            • michellc says:

              IF you’re a LEO and you approve of these targets then imho you are one of those who follow ALL orders.
              Also my experience with those type of LEO who brag about I’m going to go home at the end of the shift are usually those who go to work every day scared, so scared they get extra jumpy when they’re handed a CCP along with ID.
              The way you came on here attacking sundance I’m sure IF you’re a LEO you’re also one of those that thinks pinning on that badge and gun makes you important.

              • jello333 says:


              • Good Shoot! says:

                Michellc, Would you shoot a pregnant woman who was pointing a gun at you? She clearly poses a deadly threat. Would you shoot her? Or would you hesitate? If you have not been trained to react TO THE THREAT, not to the pre-conceived notion of what a threat “should look like” you will get shot. You fight like you train. If you walk into a domestic incident and the pregnant woman points a gun at you the second last thing that goes through your head might be, “What the hell is this?” The last thing would be her bullet. The sequence should be “see the gun, move toward cover, draw, verbalize, shoot” It should not matter who is holding the gun, but if you don’t train for every option, you might hesitate when presented with something you have never considered before.

            • Wraith says:

              I’m going to make sure I come home after my shift.

              Spoken like a true coward.

  23. czarowniczy says:

    OK, so some entrepreneur comes out with a civilian line of ‘no hesitation’ targets wherein a fat Federal bureaucrat with a rusty pistol in one hand and a donut in the other, sitting in a grey swivel chair, is telling the shooter that ‘it’s my break, take a f*cking number’.

  24. nobaddog says:

    2014 and 2016 elections are going to tell us where we stand. If there is a 2016 election. I’m not on any of those targets so i’ll be ok. Right?

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  26. Larry Bradford says:

    I have been in law enforcement for over thirty yearsand I can tell you, There is something going on with the govt. that is very scary. They are preparing national guard units and local law enforcement to search and seize weapons and how to detain or eliminate threats to the govt. This means people that just speak out against the govt, using their freedom of speech.

    • Good Shoot! says:

      Larry in your 30 years as an LEO, did you ever, even once, get invited to a search and seizure training class? Has anyone from your department ever gone to such a class and come back to tell you, “Yep, they told us we are going after civilians.” Or did you hear that some guy’s cousin heard from someone that this guy saw it…in the desert? There are truly bad laws coming our way and we need to work hard to stop them, but if you are constantly looking for the black helicopters, you are taking time away from political action that will really work.

  27. Heywood J. Blowme says:

    interesting how none of the targets were anything else but white people

  28. Rose says:

    I wonder if these “models” knew their images would be shot to hell when they “posed” for these pictures? I wonder what they were told they would be used for? Or did they just take their $$ & not care. If I was the parent of the children in the images I would be NOT be happy with how they are being used!

  29. aoifecrane says:

    I say we inundate the company with pictures of ourselves…here…use this…for a fee of course….

  30. nobaddog says:

    I think a generic face and color would be a better training tool. Train with a white pregnant women target and that cop will always see a white pregnant women as a potential threat. Everyone can be a threat so use a generic. If they want real world training use a black male. The army trained for Iraq with Arabs. I don’t know why they “requested” White targets.

  31. 1harpazo says:

    When I go to the shooting range, I’m going to ask for the target of the helmeted swat member dressed in black with his M-16 pointed at me or the one of the soldier wearing a light-blue beret and pointing his AK 47 at me. No more shooting at targets of hooded burglars. I’ll probably see a light-blue beret before I see a burglar. No More Hesitation.

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  33. Good Shoot! says:

    OMG… you people are wearing tin foil hats! How many of you are cops? Do you think a cop has ever walked into a domestic situation involving a pregnant woman with a gun? How about the old man? Look up “the dancing man” on youtube and watch that cop die, listen to him scream, because he hesitated to shoot an old man. If a kid was running through the halls of your child’s grade school with a gun shooting people… would you hesitate to shoot that kid? Maybe? In that situation what do you do? You stop the threat. If you hesitate, you get shot. If the DHS had indeed bought millions of dollars worth of these target to hand out at their brainwashing, basic training camps I’m thinking the company president would at his time share in Cancun about now, sipping a drink with an umbrella in it. As bad as the current legislation is. As much as the clowns in Washington want to take our guns and as much as we should be fighting them on every turn, these targets are not part of a scheme. It looks to me like they are a good idea to prepare cops for a bad day… If you want to help stop gun control, spend your time writing letters to your congressional representative in opposition to gun control. You’ll get more bang for your buck, so to speak.

    • jimash1 says:

      “As bad as the current legislation is. As much as the clowns in Washington want to take our guns and as much as we should be fighting them on every turn, these targets are not part of a scheme.”

      Yes they are. Think about it.
      “Hostile young mother on playground with child” What is she hostile to ?
      “Hostile 50-something lady in her own kitchen in bathrobe” What story justifies shoting her ?
      “Hostile older man in his own home with shotgun ” Maybe he is right to be hostile.
      “Hostile pregnant mother in nursery next to crib” WTF ?

      Far from wearing Foil hats here.
      But I’d say you got the double brainwash.

  34. Steven Lynch says:

    The reason the targets are white pregnant women, white people in general, and older people is because the Government knows that they are the ones who will resist more because old people believe in the constitution and have not been brain washed like the younger generation. Old people are being killed by doctors and hospitals before their time everyday. The mothers will retaliate because they have known by now that the Gov. ‘CPS’ wants to steal their children (type in you-tube) CPS corruption or the ‘murder of Senator Nancy Shafer’ for standing up against this corruption.
    A large percentage of these children are heavily drugged and killed. Soon a large number will be taken and destroyed. That is when mothers will become revolutionist for sure. People who have children are criminals to the luminate for populating the world. The children don’t want to be abducted or arrested either so the children will fight for their lives. White people may have to fight for their lives without choice.
    They have retired the older cops and that is why our cops look young like teen agers today. They have been brainwashed better for the New World Order. They were trained by computer games to kill just like most of the young killers of today. The so called minorities love the government because they are simple minded enough to want free hand outs. We have a black president now so the minority brown people love the government and won’t resist. This is how the Gov. got control of the minorities finally. They are dumb enough to be followers. The Government is against Whites in all the Policies of today. White children are abducted by our own Government, and we can’t get a Gov. Job because we are white. Minorities can abuse you on the job and be prejudice but whites cannot.
    Our television shows are condescending toward whites and history channel lies about history to take away white pride. Propaganda is all around us to destroy us. So we can see that in the end, the only ones who would have to protect themselves would be the white people. Whites are afraid of this and the government is getting ready to take your blue eyed white children because they are worth more being sold on the world market to Israel, Arabic nations for slavery, wives, and the general destruction of the race.
    The gov. had no problem killing the people at 911 so why not you, you white revolutionist. You have killed the Indians, enslaved the blacks, took Hawaii, and too intelligent to be good slaves for the New World Order. You were supposed to race mix for the past 30 years and become mud people. If you have any white pride left then you have not been properly trained. You are suppose to be full of guilt for being white, so you must be done away with. A good citizen should be complacent , follow orders and be politically correct.
    You should have a since of honor about you by now that you should comply with giving up your dignity, country, pride of race, You should give up your children and parental rights for the good of the country and law and order, because the cops need help with your surrender of your family rights and constitution. If you don’t take and give up your privacy then you must be guilty and have something to hide. Please for God’s sake, Wake UP!!!

  35. Neal Thomas says:

    If they are “shoot, non-shoot” practice targets why are they called “No Hesitation”? Maybe DHS is preparing for a forthcoming executive order to confiscate American’s weapons…

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