Saturday Open Thread – January 5th

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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99 Responses to Saturday Open Thread – January 5th

  1. ytz4mee says:

    On this day in history:

    U.S. 1914 U.S.A. $5.00 Per Day Wages At Ford 5th January, 1914: Henry Ford introduces a revolutionary pay deal when he introduces $5.00 per day wages for all his Ford workers. When asked about the pay he tells reporters that he wants his Ford workers to earn enough to be able to afford to buy a Ford motor car.

    • waltherppk says:

      In 1914 the Gold standard was in effect and value of gold was $18.99 per ounce
      http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf historical gold prices
      http://goldprice.org/ current gold price
      So it may not sound like much now because of fiat currency devaluation ….but that 5.00 per day was actually a very fine wage for the time …..and would still be a fine wage today if adjusted for “inflation” that $5.00 from 1914 would be $438.00 today, not a bad days pay for a blue collar worker.

    • stellap says:

      Ford was also the man who introduced the 5-day work week for the same pay as the 6-day work week. That was in 1926. Both innovations occurred before the UAW, which was established in 1935. I learned both of these facts as a result of a conversation with a pro-union guy who told me that “if we didn’t have the unions, you wouldn’t have a 40-hour working week.”

      Thanks to waltherppk for putting the $5.00 per day into perspective.

      If you don’t mind, I plan to post all of this to Facebook.

  2. This is the 12th Day of Christmas. Twelfth Night blessings to you all.
    [If Old Scratch asks, you didn't hear this from me, OK?]

    • canadacan says:

      12 night was big in my family we never took down Christmas decorations till after the 12th Day of Christmas Makes me think of Shakespeare’s play Twelfth Night

      • czarowniczy says:

        12th Night is s really big day in New Orleans too, the Phunny Phorty Phellows krewe will ride the traditional St Charles street car line heralding the beginning of the Mardi Gras season. Short season of debauchery this year – Marid Gras is Feb 12th – 9 days after we host Super Bowl. Alcohol distributors are working overtime shipping the booze and beer in, thousands will be here to do what they really want to do but wouldn’t dare do in their hometowns. New Orleans – your reality surrogate.

  3. Sharon says:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-04/friday-night-dump-cbo-admits-error-now-expects-another-600-billion-deficits-obama-ta

    Their initial estimate of a $4.0 trillion budget increase was wrong and when one factors in the fact that this incremental spending would have to be funded by, you guessed it, debt, debt which has interest, the full impact of the Obama tax cut rises deficits by 15% to $4.6 trillion over the next decade

  4. ytz4mee says:

    http://tinyurl.com/UK-Swiss-CurrencyWars

    Ironically, just discussed converting some of our “emergency funds” to Swiss Francs as a hedge.

  5. ytz4mee says:

    Under the radar: HUD unveils massive mandatory suburban “integration” plan. Part of teh Won’s desire to destroy the suburbs, and more specifically, “whitopia’s”.

    http://cdpubsonline.com/12all/index.php?action=message&l=33&c=7687&m=5094&s=a45c742d0b7311288afce82746bba654

    since we already know the predictable, and proven results of such a plan:

    In the meantime, Betts, who called Memphis “the ultimate urban laboratory,” was compiling statistics about the areas of Memphis where low-income renters, backed up by Section 8 vouchers, had moved. Early this year, somewhat uneasily, the couple decided to compare their maps, one of crime statistics, the other of clusters of Section 8 voucher renters. To their dismay, the charts largely coincided.

    “Couple’s research links Section 8 vouchers to crime in Memphis”

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/sep/11/partners-in-crime-research/

    This is one small piece in a much bigger piece of the Progressive prize: “regionalization” which will supplant the authority of local districts and “pool resources” (ie: drain the resources and tax base from the suburbs to fund the bottomless pit that is inner city decay in the interests of “fairness” and “social justice”.

    • “There’s been so much follow-up at the national level from people who have no background at the local level,” said Betts. “The feeling that we share ideas with right-wing bloggers is devastating.”

      *snort*

      Yes, the truth can be devastating.

  6. Sharon says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/egypts_stillborn_democracy.html

    In August, when Islamists attacked Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai — which as some have taken as a pretense to force Egypt into a confrontation with Israel — Morsi used this instance as a smokescreen to replace Mohamad Hussein Tantawi, the secular head of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, (SCAF), and Army Chief of Staff Sami Enan, to replace them with Muslim Brothergood member, Abdal Kahlil Fatah a- Sisi. (So much for the popular argument in Washington that we have to support the Egyptian military because it is the “most western of institutions”).

  7. waltherppk says:

    “Gun Control” was INVENTED by Muslim Turks in 1911 as a preface to the genocide of 1.5 million disarmed and defenseless Christians, with the murders being known as the Armenian Genocide. Russian Communists a few years later enacted similar “Gun Control” laws as preface and preparation for the genocide of 20 million more people. German Nazis perfected “Gun Control” a decade later in preface to the genocide of another 20 million people ….So there is a historical pattern of GENOCIDE that is literally MURDER done by the government soon after the people who are planned to be exterminated are made defenseless by “Gun Control” laws enacted under false pretenses of “crime prevention” or “public safety”. There are many more hundreds of millions of victims of the same “Gun Control” SCAM which have been murdered by various governments in the past one hundred years, making governments the most savage cold blooded murderers in history, rather than establishing governments as having any “moral high ground” for being any “righteous guardians of civilization”. The “Gun Control” laws of the United States which began to be enacted in 1968 are patterned after the Nazi Gun Control Laws of thirty years earlier and this is no coincidence. Neither is the predictable or expected outcome. I am old enough to recall what it was like before 1968 and bought firearms over the counter with no questions asked and no paperwork before the Nazi / U.S. “Gun Control” law of 1968. Maybe the term “progressive” needs to be reevaluated as being too kind and imprecise. Maybe the waddling duck definition should be applied to recognizing a Nazi as being a Nazi …..you know if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ….
    http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

    http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm#chart

    Get wise everybody, wake up …Gun Control is Genocide ..they are flip sides of the same coin

    • waltherppk says:

      The reason there is no reciprocity between other states like Florida with Vermont with respect to citizens rights regarding firearms is because Vermont respects the second amendment and is not run by a bunch of Nazis like are the other states. Is that plain enough language ? The second amendment means what it says except to Nazis.

      • canadacan says:

        The states is where we will make our stand

        • waltherppk says:

          Seriously if you look at the double talk and equivocation and the “gun free zones” and the prohibitions on “open carry” it is a BAD JOKE what many states propose is the “equal protection of the law” and the “supremacy clause” MEANING in terms of any “TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE” to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States”. Plainly they are damn liars and twist the meaning of the second amendment into whatever pretzel that suits their tyrannical little statist agenda. It is plain enough that the State FEARS an armed population so the State wishes to restrict and infringe the second amendment right using any false pretense or excuse which can be offered.
          Elitists don’t want a level playing field where their “gestapo” can be up against a pissed off population who are comparably armed or better armed. Of course for strategic reasons the “gestapo” wants to always be assured that they have the advantage over anyone who might be a “bad guy” ……..missing the point entirely of the twisted bargain which has put the agents of a corrupt state in the role of themselves being the “bad guy” when serving a corrupt governments evil schemes being advanced under false pretenses. What “Gun Control” is really all about is the FEAR of governments of insurrection and the FEAR that a pissed off citizenry will hold corrupt bureaucrats accountable for their own crimes. It just would not do for those who are “above the law” not to be able to enjoy the benefit of such a double standard for any reasonable concern that their authority to screw people should ever be openly challenged. That is the entire and only real true purpose of gun control and those who claim otherwise are
          liars who are perpetrating a SCAM that serves their own selfish agenda for POWER.

          • ytz4mee says:

            That is why mandatory “public schools” are so key to Progressives …. non stop indoctrination of our children, which we are forced to pay for.

            In retrospect, growing up, the majority of my teachers were hard core Progressives – several were Vietnam War draft dodgers. I was taught to fear guns, in fact, most people who grew up in a major city in Canada and went through the public school system have a reflexive fear of guns and people who own them. It is “enlightened” and “progressive” to believe that only rubes and the uneducated or criminally insane want or need guns.

            Then I married a US Marine and moved to the US. My perspective changed completely, when you see the true evil in the world, and how it flourishes when people are disarmed and made to believe resistence is futile. I am now the proud owner of several types of firearms. I refuse to be a victim for anyone, and one of my daughter’s most cherished activities is going to the gun range with her Dad to keep proficient.

            • canadacan says:

              You understand. I was blessed with an American mother And the Canadian father who was educated At the University of Idaho and admiredthe American system. My Canadian high schools in the University of Toronto were full of American draft dodgers. My birthday been registered of the American consulate in Montreal. I obtain my American citizenship as soon as I could
              Dual citizenship. You get a sound education in the Canadian system but You have to tune out the liberal bias. Canada Free Press does an excellent job. I have an ancestor who was the drummer boy in Washington’s army. There are officers in my family were buried in Arlington

              • canadacan says:

                My father was a Canadian member of the NRA. all his hand guns were registered by the RCMP. the RCMP came to the house were very polite and left
                He was a lifelong member of the Ontario anglers and hunters club. my dad was granted a special registration which allowed him to take his hand guns to and from the club for target practice and keep them in the house. he kept a handgun in the glove compartment he was leaving directly from his office to go to the gun club after work. it was complicated. it was a major concern to him if he had to use a gun to shoot an intruder he might lose his weapons. maybe.it was a worry.
                The crap that goes on in the Canadian system regarding handguns is a direct result of consequences of the Constitutional Act of 1789. the British were in terrible fear of those revolting Americans

                • canadacan says:

                  All I have now is 1 little handgun, a revolver.
                  All the other guns were so but my brother and I for various reasons. my brother lives in Canada.
                  I take the second Amendment very very seriously. this wonderful country is in a real jam right now and we are in political hand to hand combat to survive

        • waltherppk says:

          I am an oath keeper and my oath was taken before the Nazi gun control act of 1968.
          Three times I have taken that same oath and it is not the “enlisted mans oath”. I am also an officers father. To put it in plain language I am not taking any shit from Nazis even if they wrap themselves in the flag.

        • canadacan says:

          Individual. State is what I’m talking about the 6th amendment . Vermont Texas etcetera

          • canadacan says:

            Virginia Military Institute and West Point running in my family for several generations I understand something about taking oaths

            • waltherppk says:

              Suppose that in 1968 a law had been passed that you could not be a Christian without getting your bible registered and you could not pray without getting fingerprinted and obtaining a license. Who would stand for that ? They would say the first amendment makes such nonsense unnecessary and unlawful ….wouldn’t they ?…and they would be right. The second amendment is precisely as unequivocal as a right.

          • waltherppk says:

            I don’t even believe this is a matter for either political or judicial debate so long as the second amendment exists, it is the supreme law of the land. Subversives who can’t seem to get it about that need to be put out of business, put in prison, or put in the ground.

            • howie says:

              If ya waive it ya lose it. That is how they do it.

              • canadacan says:

                We must never lose the right to defend ourselves because once it’s gone will never get it back. There are things worth dying for.

                • howie says:

                  If the Founders had known about communists they would have been a little more on it. the 2nd would say…….Citizens shall own any kind of weapon, arm, gun, knife, bullet, or thing they want. Without interference by anyone including TV and the Press. Not for sports or hunting but in case the government gets too big.

    • ytz4mee says:

      Thanks for the great article. The info in the chart I was aware of …. but the chart puts it into a very easy to understand – and impossible to refute – format. I have forwarded this to several people, I hope both the article and the chart go viral.

      You are right – people need to “wake up”.

      As a teen, I lived in Switzerland and my boyfriend was part of the Swiss Army doing his mandatory training. I never felt unsafe traveling anywhere in Switzerland as a 15 year old by myself or with another 15 year old friend – quite the opposite. I don’t know if Switzerland with the importation of Muslims feels the same as it did then, but “gun control” does not make a community safer.

  8. Sharon says:

    “There’s no way to rule innocent men.
    The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
    Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
    One declares so many things to be a crime
    that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
    —Ayn Rand

    • howie says:

      We got a whole bunch of new one’s in Floriduh. Our 100% GOP government managed a full plate of new ones. Over 400 I think. Who knows what they are but I am prolly breaking some. Hard to tell.

      • michellc says:

        I think I’ve mentioned on here before about an attorney telling me one time when I commented on all the law books that they write confusing laws, leaving old statutes on the book that contradict new statutes and that there are so many laws nobody knows if they’re breaking the law and if he looked hard enough he could find a law that he would be breaking by being alone in a room with a female.

        If we had an honest legislator they would say they were eliminating all the laws on the books and writing common sense laws, but then they’d have to have common sense and that is sadly lacking.

  9. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids! Interesting read about death threats against Bush being ignored for years. Hint: media’s nasty little fingers…..

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

    • ytz4mee says:

      Yes. I was interviewed because someone completely made sh!t up and there is no blowback for lying. There is an agenda for sure, and the current agenda is to intimdate and silence critics.

    • czarowniczy says:

      Sign was too subjective and, when you are subjective in the face of the government, the government gets to define the subjectivity. Had the sign have opined a ‘death through natural causes’ and ‘selective treatment under Obamacare’ I belie the comment would have been taken more objectively. As for the Bush death threats, they were just expressing their moral outrage and exercising their 1st Amendment rights – under Bush we still had a Bill of Rights as opposed to Obama’s Bill of Leftists.

  10. Sharon says:

    New nic for Algor–

    Algorzera

    Not original with me…some site some commenter

  11. stellap says:

    Paramilitary style invasion of private businesses by the IRS and other government agencies. This is a reenactment of an actual event, based upon testimony about the event by those present.

    • cajunkelly says:

      Just saw this on another site. I think this may be what we face if full out gun confiscation comes.
      Ask yourself what you would do if you are sitting peacefully in your home and suddenly six or eight black SUVs screach to a halt in front of your house.
      Seriously, ask yourself this. You’d best be prepared mentally for it. Discuss it with your family.
      (no, I never dreamed I’d have to have this discussion in my home)

      • michellc says:

        We’ve talked about it. I can’t talk about the before plan. However, the absolute first thing I would do before anything else, is we all post here, fb and other such sites, our full names, address and former screen name, with the simple message, black suvs on our property, help get out the word if you don’t hear back from us, we are not criminals, we don’t owe back taxes and we have no weapons of mass destruction. I think all of you and others online would understand the message and hopefully through the internet and pressure if we aren’t saved, then others will be.
        My husband wants to take the physical fight route but imho we’ll be dead in a matter of seconds with them being able to write their own story.
        Everyone will have to decide for themselves, but that is my plan, although I won’t willingly allow them in without a warrant, they’ll have to force their way in, but by then hopefully others will have warning even if we are dead.

        Yes, I know this is not private, but I feel comfortable with revealing this much even to the government.

        • WeeWeed says:

          All the dead will be labelled “terrorists.” Doomsday preppers…..oh, wait – where have I heard that??

        • cajunkelly says:

          Isn’t it tragic that we, as peaceful, legal citizens of the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave even need to be having these thoughts and conversations?

          • michellc says:

            My daughter has a friend on FB that writes a new conspiracy daily, she’s always telling him he’s going to end up missing or killed mysteriously.

            Yes, it is tragic and I truly wish I was crazy because then I’d be wrong for all my worrying and planning and the country would not be what I think it is.

  12. ctdar says:

    So here’s original photo of Democratic women in congress (Raciiiiiiist) as printed in WashintonPost
    http://thewashingtonpost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article79135040-1ab6-49c3-8e7b-ce711948395f/waarticle79135040-1ab6-49c3-8e7b-ce711948395f/79135040-1ab6-49c3-8e7b-ce711948395f/0/true
    and the doctored group shot with additional top row:
    http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/04/pelosi-defends-altered-photo-of-democratic-women/
    So never doubt that the Whitehouse manipulates photos when it suits them. Total hypocrites considering their statement on flicker regarding official whitehouse photos.

  13. Knuckledragingwino says:

    I just saw this one about the ininyptended consequences of the on line gun owners map.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/print#ixzz2H779tV2i

    It seems this mapnhas allowed prison inmates to locate where prison guards live and intimidate them.

    • ctdar says:

      Everyone that was listed on that map should form a class action suit against the News Journal, it’s parent company Gannett and all their advertisers for invasion of privacy for financial gain.
      seems the sole purpose of the map that outed legal gun owners was to sell papers in order to boost their dropping circulation revenue
      http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=16786747

      • canadacan says:

        They really need to put those newspapers out of business for good class action indeed. of course they were trying to sell newspapers ,newspapers are dinosaurs

  14. WeeWeed says:

    These glorious insults are from an era before the English language got
    boiled down to 4-letter words.

    The exchange between Churchill & Lady Astor:

    She said, “If you were my husband I’d give you poison.”

    He said, “If you were my wife, I’d drink it.”

    A member of Parliament to Disraeli:

    “Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable
    disease.”

    “That depends, Sir,” said Disraeli, “whether I embrace your policies or
    your mistress.”

    “He had delusions of adequacy.” – Walter Kerr

    “He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.” -
    Winston Churchill

    “I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great
    pleasure.” Clarence Darrow

    “He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the
    dictionary.” – William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).

    “Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I’ll waste no time
    reading it.” – Moses Hadas

    “I didn’t attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved
    of it.” – Mark Twain

    “He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends..” – Oscar
    Wilde

    “I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
    friend…if you have one.” – George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill

    “Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second…if there is
    one.” – Winston Churchill, in response.

    “I feel so miserable without you; it’s almost like having you here.” -
    Stephen Bishop

    “He is a self-made man and worships his creator.” – John Bright

    “I’ve just learned about his illness. Let’s hope it’s nothing trivial.”
    – Irvin S. Cobb

    “He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others.” -
    Samuel Johnson

    “He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up.” – Paul Keating

    “In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.” -
    Charles, Count Talleyrand

    “He loves nature in spite of what it did to him.” – Forrest Tucker

    “Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on
    it?” – Mark Twain

    “His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.” – Mae West

    “Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go..” -
    Oscar Wilde

    “He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts… for support
    rather than illumination.” – Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

    “He has Van Gogh’s ear for music.” – Billy Wilder

    “I’ve had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn’t it.” – Groucho
    Marx

    • ctdar says:

      :lol:

      The pen is mightier than the sword

    • elvischupacabra says:

      H.L. Mencken was a master at the Parthian shot:

      The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out… without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.

      When a new source of taxation is found it never means, in practice, that the old source is abandoned. It merely means that the politicians have two ways of milking the taxpayer where they had one before.

      A national political campaign is better than the best circus ever heard of, with a mass baptism and a couple of hangings thrown in.

      A society made up of individuals who were all capable of original thought would probably be unendurable.

      Communism, like any other revealed religion, is largely made up of prophecies.

      Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

      Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.

      Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

      For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

      Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good.

      Life is a constant oscillation between the sharp horns of dilemmas.

      Most people are unable to write because they are unable to think, and they are unable to think because they congenitally lack the equipment to do so, just as they congenitally lack the equipment to fly over the moon.

      Most people want security in this world, not liberty.

      No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.

      The common argument that crime is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

      Archbishop – A Christian ecclesiastic of a rank superior to that attained by Christ.

      The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

      My favorites:

      As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

      I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.

      In the duel of sex woman fights from a dreadnought and man from an open raft.

      It doesn’t take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few determined leaders and a sound cause.

    • StJohn says:

      Lady Astor: You’re drunk!
      Churchill: And you’re ugly, but in the morning, I’ll be sober.

    • Wag 'O The Western Plains says:

      Here’s an oldie but a goodie
      Dear XXX, I’m seated in the smallest room of my home with your letter before me. Soon, it shall be behind me. ~ Voltaire

  15. Some of you still don’t get what’s upon all of our doorstep. The obviousness of what’s staring back at us can’t be denied nor should it be ignored. A race war is merely fuel poured over the fire. When the MSM is both too scared to report the truth & complicit to blinding the masses as to what’s actually occurring, it’s a good bet the reality is that America is a few steps from checkmate. This article ( http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/12/27/why-ex-feds-and-wall-street-execs-are-going-into-hiding/ ) supports what many of us have been warning of for the last couple of years. Globalists put Obama in office, they’re the puppet masters keeping him there because they’re counting upon his hatred for America to act as the catalyst that fast tracks the complete destruction of America. Don’t surrender your weapons to government puppets, those weapons will someday be all that you have to fight for your right to exist.

  16. StJohn says:

    Mom defends herself and her twins from home invader – runs out of bullets.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

    • ctdar says:

      “… And the guy’s telling her to quit shooting,”
      :lol:

    • cajunkelly says:

      “My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do as responsible, prepared gun owner,” Donnie Herman said.

      He said he’s thankful for his family’s safety.

      “Her life is saved, and her kids’ life is saved, and that’s all I’d like to say,” Herman said.

      DAMN STRAIGHT

    • thefirstab says:

      And THAT’S how we do it in these here parts. Even though this was outside Atlanta, there is still an underlying belief that We Have the Right to Defend Ourselves and Our Property. Hopefully many more communities will receive this memo. .

  17. 22tula says:

    Sid wants a gun.

  18. 22tula says:

    Are You Surprised?
    “Whoops – ‘Cash for Clunkers’ Actually Hurt the Environment”
    January 3, 2012
    http://news.yahoo.com/why-cash-clunkers-hurt-environment-more-helped-024848694.html

    Too late for you

    • michellc says:

      Something else it did that doesn’t get talked about much is it hurt a lot of used car dealers and car auctions. Many of these people couldn’t sell a used car at that time and for many of them that was their sole source of income, so they had to close up and find another way to support themselves because they couldn’t afford to wait it out. Then it caused used car prices to go up eventually because there were fewer of them which hurt the poor they claim to care about.

  19. cajunkelly says:

    OK folks, before you ask, yeah I feel like I’ve stepped off the tinfoil hat cliff but here goes.

    I saw some conspiracy videos after I watched the INjustice video above that claim there are micro cameras and microphones in cable boxes. :shock:
    I believe in going right to the source, (chuckle) so I called my cable provider and asked them point blank.
    I was told; no there are no cameras or microphones in your cable box
    I asked: so how can I be guaranteed?
    I was told: ma’am there are no conspiracies and I guess the only way you can be sure there are no cameras or microphones in your cable box is to tear your box open, but then you’d be responsible for the cable box.

    OK, so there. That’s my tinfoil hat confession. Anyone else heard this? Got opinions?

    footnote; I have seen commercials lately that show people controlling their TVs with hand gestures and voice commands. That’s the only reason I gave enough credence to this to even call my cable provider.

    • Sharon says:

      Got our new bill today for basic cable and internet. The monthly internet charge has gone up by 50%. We were going to dump cable this month anyway so that will recoup that for us on the monthly bill anyway.

      Internet is now $50 a month.

      • cajunkelly says:

        Well now Sharon, yanno they gotta recoup their losses after having to pay for their employees’ obamacare. Shame on you. Don’t you want them to have free health care? /sarc

      • cajunkelly says:

        Speaking of which, DH and I are looking for a home security system that doesn’t work off a hard wired telephone system. We’ve stripped our home phone back to basic and it’s still outrageous. I want to kill the home phone totally, but it’s required with our security system.

    • ytz4mee says:

      Verizon did file a patent for embedded voice and motion tracking software in DVR’s.
      They claim they want to use it to “tailor” ads. But to my knowledge, this technology is not active and in the marketplace yet, but it is coming,

    • ctdar says:

      Anybody want to watch an unsettling movie about government survellience rent “Enemy of the State” with Gene Hackman, Jon Voight, Will Smith.

  20. WeeWeed says:

    Bar’s open, peeps!! Let teh music begin…..

    Photobucket

    • WeeWeed says:

      Get that damnosmoking sign off teh column, there…. dang column’s in a perfect place to knock out a drunk, too…..

    • cajunkelly says:

      LOL! This should be entertaining. Gonna be a hoot watching all the treepers trying to balance on those pumpkin lookin thingies after a few shots of Goldschlager.

      This’ll be worth stayin sober to watch. :lol:

      • WeeWeed says:

        Y’ever seen anyone throw up Goldschlager?? LOL!!! Little gold glitters, everywhere….. I had a boss years ago whose wife threw him a 40th birthday party – a bottle of that was one of his gifts and he drank it ALL!! He did offer me a slug, and as I recall it was pretty good….. but man, by the end of his party he was s.i.c.k……

        • cajunkelly says:

          I will *NOT* share my story re Goldschlager and a houseboat party.

          NOPE, can’t even torture that story outta me. :-X

          • WeeWeed says:

            You on drugs anyway…… are ya’s feeling better, today? Get to the doc for that flu?

            • cajunkelly says:

              Nope, doc don’t want me IN that place. But he did call in a passel of meds. Feeling like I’m gonna live now anyway, if’n I don’t drown on….ok I’ll be nice and say nasal emissions.

              Feel like I’m having an extended snot-slinging fit and I ain’t even mad!
              snort/chuckle/snort/and duck

              • stellap says:

                Hope you feel better soon! I saw on the news that they are urging people who didn’t get a flu shot in the Fall to get one now. I did get one – our company brings in a nurse and we get them free during working hours.

                • michellc says:

                  I’m more scared of the shot than I am getting the flu. My husband rarely gets sick and when he does, he’s sick for a day. While I catch everything and his one day illness is a 2 week illness for me.
                  He took the shot one year and was sicker than he had ever been and it kept him in bed for days. I thought man it would probably kill me or put me in bed for a month. Which I did come down with the flu that year, probably from taking care of him.

                  My sister has lung problems, so she takes the shot every year and takes a pneumonia shot(I don’t think that’s yearly, not sure) and has never gotten sick from the shot. She did get the flu one year and they said it was a different strain than the shot.
                  So I’m not anti-shot. I’m just overly cautious and feel better chancing the flu than becoming ill from the shot.

                  • cajunkelly says:

                    DH takes the pneumonia shot…he’s a twin, born a preemie, nuff said. That’s done every five years…got his first one three years ago and actually hasn’t had the flu since then, until this year.
                    I read something yesterday about a teen in TX (iirc) who came down with the flu and died days later. Multiple organ failure I think the article said. Went from a perfectly healthy very active teen to deceased in a matter of a few days.

                  • Sharon says:

                    He also had a staph infection, which I would suppose was possibly picked up in the hospital.

                  • cajunkelly says:

                    Tell him he’s lucky it wasn’t MSRA. Mom contracted that while in hospital.
                    No cure, highly contagious.

                  • stellap says:

                    I started getting a flu shot nine years ago. My youngest grandson was born at the beginning of flu season, and I didn’t want to potentially expose him to influenza; babies are particularly susceptible to flu complications/death. Now I am past sixty years old, so a flu shot seems like a good idea to me.

  21. ThatOldGuy says:

    This puts in perspective how incompetent the people, who are supposedly the authorities on gun safety, really are:

    http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388334_410172432393981_758694947_n.jpg

    • ctdar says:

      Whitney’s rendition of the Star Spangled Banner is one of the most amazing versions….such a tragic shame her fall.
      Rest in peace

  22. ytz4mee says:

    DOOMSDAY PREPPERS!
    Although I like the episodes with the crazy uber-bunkers best.

  23. 22tula says:

    “American Al Qaeda Cleric Aided 9/11 Hijackers”
    Foreign Confidential – January 5, 2013
    http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.com/2013/01/american-al-qaeda-cleric-aided-911.html

  24. cajunkelly says:

    This video goes well with the genocide graph/table above:
    http://ogdaa.blogspot.com/2013/01/innocents-betrayed-history-of-gun.html

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