Wednesday Open Thread – November 7th

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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139 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread – November 7th

  1. elvischupacabra says:

    Let’s get ready for 2014!!!,_2014

    Resist & Resolve!

  2. rumpole2 says:

    Where were we before the election interrupted?

    Oh yes… Benghazi!!!

    What are the chances that Obama will be impeached?
    Nice if he were to resign… then Joe could have a go at being President :D

    • lovemygirl says:

      I’m wondering about Benghazi and impeachment. President Boehner is not that absurd.

      • rumpole2 says:

        impeachment does not mean they HAVE to resign (I believe)… and Obama is just the sort to NOT resign even if he was impeached.
        It’s all a long shot… so lets hope the Military are so incensed over the Benghazi affair that we have a military Coup?

        • ytz4mee says:

          impeachment requires the senate. the harry reid controlled senate.

        • Sharon says:

          The action of impeachment is similar to a Grand Jury indictment. In order to throw the bum out of office, it then goes to the Senate where a conviction must be voted, after presentation to the Senate of the particulars by members of the house.

          That’s why Bill Clinton was impeached (by the House) and merrily went on his way, because the Senate just giggled and voted against conviction.

          Impeachment is like a speeding ticked. To lose your driver’s license takes considerably more.

    • ragnar says:

      No. If true to form the GOP-E will now move even further left. They will try to recruit Bernie Sanders to run.

    • Benghazi is done. Over. Caput. Finished.

      The Republicans will not go near it now because the media will say it is just an example of “sour grapes” and retaliation for an election defeat.

      Obama would then use the media supported nattative to beat Boehner/McConnell/Issa/chaffetz about the head and neck ridiculing them.

      Benghazi is a dead end. Sorry.

      • Knuckledraggingwino says:

        Don’t worry. There will be many more incidents of American interests being attacked and President Obama abandoning heros to die. It will culminate with a nuclear 9-11.

  3. lovemygirl says:

    Reposting from another thread. My fire is now comforting.
    The good news is a single piece of fatwood can still ignite a comforting fire of aged oak. Still pondering and licking wounds. Time now to plan and work for our children’s future.

    • ragnar says:

      “Are you thinking that death and taxes are our only certainty…..? Well, there’s nothing I can do about the first, but if I lift the burden of the second, men might learn to see the connection between the two and what a longer, happier life they have the power to achieve. They might learn to hold, not death and taxes, but life and production as their two absolutes and as the base of their moral code.” -Ragnar Danneskjold

      “When robbery is done in open daylight by sanction of the law, as it is done today, then any act of honor or restitution has to be hidden underground.”

      Ragnar Danneskjold [from Atlas Shrugged]

  4. Mikado Cat says:

    The chances that Benghazi becomes a non Fox story are slim. Generally the mood of the country post election is very anti partisan, so unless some smoking evidence turns up in the hearings nothing will be done. As SD has said in other threads with the CIA angle Obama has isolated himself from any trouble.

    Reading the exit polling information is VERY enlightening.

    4 in 10 cited Obama’s response to Sandy as a reason to vote for him. Obama did nothing but use his discretion on FEMA reimbursement to buy two endorsements, but it looks like a billion of tax payer money that paid off well for him.

  5. rumpole2 says:

    Or… just take all the free stuff and stockpile it, and prepare for when the government runs out of other people’s money.

    • texan59 says:

      The old man should’ve thought about that whole – actions have consequences – when he helped put this asshat in office the first time. Sorry ain’t gonna get me a pass out of summer camp. :evil:

      • stellap says:

        Like this comment from “Cobra”:

        My friends, chin up.
        Very few believed in 1985 that we will see the fall of the iron curtain in 1989.
        Heck, I did not believe it in May 1989..
        Yet, it happened.
        The fight must go on.
        If Solzhenitsyn found the power to fight, we will find it, too.
        We must be smarter, and faster, and twice as dedicated as the demshevik shock troops.
        But we are Americans, and this who we are.
        Chin up, sleep tonight, and regroup tomorrow.

  6. texan59 says:

    I just found the new flag that barry and mooch are gonna be flying over casa blanco. :evil:

  7. texan59 says:

    They DID get rid of one asshole. Although we now have a fake Indian, a bi-polar bear who never campaigned and another Kennedy who better hire a driver. :evil:

    • texan59 says:

      RSM was a bit more diplomatic than what I would have been.By the time the next goat-roping comes around, if we’re not in a FEMA camp, we will have –

      obamacare, no coal, $7 gasoline, $500 gazillion in debt, and 537 people with a job.

      Who has to go – Christie, Coulter, Morris, Romney, Rove……………. :twisted: :oops:


  8. WeeWeed says:

    Well. Let’s eat. We begin again…..


  9. Shalini says:

    I wrote this in the other site but I intend my thoughts to be for all of you.

    I don’t know what to say… I was nervous all day yesterday and kept praying as much as I can for your nation and for you all. I had to wake up early to go have my blood test taken today, so I decided to not sleep at all and pray. I have to say, yesterday, every single Psalm I read , every single online prayer website I go and every single ‘God Calling’ message, spoke of humility and bowing low before before God and accepting His will. Now, I am not prescient nor do I claim to know God’s will intimately, but I felt the message indicated sorrow before glory. Just as I finished yet another Rosary and the Divine Mercy chaplet, kneeling down, I heard the church bells ring at 5 am in the morning. I did not take it as a good sign or a bad sign but just felt comforted for some reason, despite everything.

    As I watched Romney losing states he needed to win, I felt sad and, yes, I have tears even now but I firmly believe God protects His people. He may lead them across the wilderness for 40 years before they finally reach the Promised Land of freedom but His leadership is sure and true like His love and mercy. Politicians don’t make or break you. Only God has the power and He never abandons those who are faithful to Him, no matter how few you are in a big population full of people who may disrespect Him.

    Today is painful, I know. So may be everyday of the next four years. But He WILL be with you every step of the way. So weep today but do not despair forever.

    I know this may not mean much to you all, but I have felt comforted in the messages God gives in the ‘God Calling’. This was the message today.

    July 7 – Painful Preparation

    Help and peace and joy are here. Your courage will be rewarded.

    Painful as this time is you will both one day see the reason of it, and see too that it was not cruel testing, but tender preparation for the wonderful life-work you are both to do.

    Try to realize that your own prayers are being most wonderfully answered. Answered in a way that seems painful to you, but that just now is the only way.

    Success in the temporal world would not satisfy you.

    Great success, in both temporal and spiritual worlds, awaits you.

    I know you will see this had to be.

    Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try
    you, … But rejoice, in as much as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings. 1 Peter 4:12

    He’s got this. They, who are in power, may take away many things from you, even your America as you know her but they cannot take God away from you.

    – Your sister in Christ.

  10. Morning, dahlings! For some reason I have a headache. ;)

    As soon as I get home from work I’m going to unfriend every liberal I know on the FB, including family. Just don’t have time for that anymore. Then I’m going to read the survival thread from top to bottom. I refuse to go down with these fools.

    The good news is, we are still here. Hugs and love to all.

    • texan59 says:

      I’m glad someone has a little optimism left. Mine seems to be tapped out for the moment. I shall recover. I have decided to ask for heirloom seeds for Christmas though. :D

      • ytz4mee says:

        That’s a good plan. The GMO wheat and corn is a deliberate genetic trap door. It interferes with the ability of the liver to convert glucagon. Irreversible death.

        • Ad rem says:

          Hmmmm….looked that up and bookmarked. That shall be tonight’s late-night reading for me. ;-)

          • texan59 says:

            Hey Puddy. The only good news I heard your way is that dipstick Pete Stark finally got taken out. Even if it was another D. Are there any R’s left in Congress from sunny CA? :)

            • Ad rem says:

              Only “R’s” still alive are in Coastal Orange County, and some parts of the Inland Empire, but their effect is negligible, and they’re drowned out by the shouts of union dollars. Our stupid phucks actually voted yes on Prop. 30….raising our sales and income taxes….on us “rich” folks. (Dat means any boob still wid a job.) But …LOL…if was ….repeat with me….”All For the Children”.

    • Ms.Tee says:

      I’m with you, girl. I’ve basically decided that I will spend Thanksgiving and Xmas alone! Sorry, I will not make nice with people, who voted for the destruction of our country just because we share the same bloodlines. Ms. Tee is going Rogue, damn it!

      Btw, I’m wearing all black today and I look quite cute, I must say. :)

    • GracieD says:

      Y’all should move South, Tilda! We would love to have ya!

  11. Sharon says:

    The Apostles John and Peter lived their entire lives under Roman occupation.

    The Prophet Daniel’s prophetic ministry and his national administrative duties serving the empire that conquered his homeland were all lived out in national captivity.

    The Prophet Isaiah served under a derelict national leadership and very likely died being sawn in two by one of the forces fighting to snuff out resistance to their influence.

    Believe me, I could go on and on. But I won’t. My spirit can’t easily bear even a portion of the weight that theirs did, on days that were far worse for them than this is for me.

    My thoughts remind me that millions over the centuries have lived and served, survived and died, fought and ministered under diabolical authority.

  12. WeeWeed says:

    I’m thinking seccession. :evil:

  13. cajunkelly says:

    I feel quite a bit like I did the morning after my Mom died. Her death wasn’t a surprise, I was her primary caretaker and had plenty of time to (I thought) prepare myself.

    The reality hit me like an oncoming train that morning… A girl child self identifies through her mother. That was my case, even though we were so very different and I was rejected by her at birth (post partum depression which no one knew about or understood back then).

    I loved her and took care of her in her last days when *she* needed *me* anyway.

    I woke up that morning and admitted a life changing truth: I have no Mother.

    This morning I have no country.

    P.S. As I was typing this DH called. Was glad for the call, as I was so worried about him. He was deeply wounded last night. But this morning he’s got his feet back under him.

    He’s into planning mode, and reminded me that I am *not* without a country, just half a country. The South is *still* my country!

    DH swears to not patronize any blue states, or fraternize with any blue relatives. We’re done.

    We are now circling our wagons, logistically and financially. Those not with us are surely against us and we’ll give no quarter as we move forward. Those blue relatives that yes, we love, have helped to lay waste to my country, and they will be left by us to wallow in it.

    Breitbart would not surrender, nor will we.

    Hey Tex,

    Reckon we can start a movement for Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama to secede? :)

    Florida can KMA.

    • Ms.Tee says:

      Kelly this post really resonates with me. I, too, haven’t felt this bad since the death of one of my parents several years back. Also, you’re not the only one working for the gov’t. ;) What really depresses me is that the only jobs that will be created in the future will be public sector jobs! The few private positions created will virtually have NO benefits because of Obamacare!

      I have a few blue friends but they are dead to me. What really gets me though is that the few conservative friends that I have on the ground didn’t care! They basically threw their hands in the air and said: “there’s nothing we can do”!! The Left has succeeded in creating an apathetic and demoralized electorate. Personally, with all the talk about the midterms in 2014, I’m not sure if I even care.

      Ms. Tee isn’t rich but she once had aspirations of being wealthy. Now, those dreams are long gone! I’m not sure if I have the money to make the move to Texas..but I may lose more by not taking that risk.

      It’s going to be a long day. :(

    • ytz4mee says:

      Well, it wouldn’t be the first time. I consider the Revolutionary War to be the first American Civil War. At the time, all residents were British subjects. I had distant relatives who were Tories and lived and owned property not far from where I live now. When the mob showed up at their doorstep literally with pitchforks, tar and feathers (and yes, tar and feathering DID happen), they took the hint and fled, leaving everything behind. Entire families were smashed as people took one side or the other. I have always had blood relatives on both sides of the border. This is no different. It’s an ideological rendering of the country that can’t be patched back together. You are on one side or the other.

      • stellap says:

        My Ross ancestors were empire loyalists. Moved to Johnstown New York in 1772 and fought for the crown along with their landowner. Ended up in eastern Ontario, later part of the family moved to “Upper Canada”, and some came here to Michigan (100 years later!).

    • texan59 says:

      I’ma have to tie one on this weekend ‘fore I start any secession plans. I feel like my punkin’ looks.

  14. cajunkelly says:

    Rush opening line,,

    It’s difficult to beat Santa Claus

    • cajunkelly says:


      Looking for a way to blame the victim??

      “We’re going to look into the victim’s background to see if there might have been a dispute in his past that could have led to something. But right now, there’s just nothing evident for investigators,” police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said.

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      Sorry Military Insider, but we can’t “Watergate” The Destroyer when the press is on his side. They don’t report – it’s like it never happened.

    • texan59 says:

      To Watergate you’re gonna need a willing media first and foremost. Not gonna happen. The House can impeach him every f*ckin’ day til he leaves. Harry ain’t gonna do sh*t. That’s it???? :evil:

      • stellap says:

        Nixon wasn’t impeached, he resigned. But under pressure from the media, and he had a conscience. Obama has no pressure, and no conscience.

  15. cajunkelly says:

    Must.stay.out.of.WalMart….for a few days

    Same thing happened 4 years ago. The blacks….YEAH, I SAID IT, deal with it….are so rude it’s unbelievable.

    First I can’t get an electric cart (torn miniscus remember) because FAT ASSED SLOB obama voters have them all….blocking aisles with the cart while they *dismount* then walk down an aisle to get something.

    So I hobble all over the f’n store, finally get to check out and talk with a friend about the election a bit last night…nothing radical…just expressing disappointment.

    Bitch ‘associate’ scans every thing…bags it…then WALKS AWAY to the next register, whispers to her something then stands there and laughs at me while I struggle to load it all into my cart.

    I have her name, her register number and the time….waiting on a call back from the manager.

    Yep, gotta stay home for a few days or I’m gonna get arrested.

    (grin) Is stealing an electric shopping cart considered grand theft auto? Damn near stole one, and would have if the bitch’s purse hadn’t been in it.

  16. ctdar says:

    Hi all- I’m still utterly disgusted…I’ve mentioned before my family has been here well before 1776 and have 14 ancestors(proven) on my father’s side that took part in the American Revolution (making me a DAR-Daughter of the American Revolution) and I am just heart broken to see what happened to our Country last night and to see its future, my children and grandchildren’s future.
    I’m wearing black today and will be for some time. However I am thankful for all here at the tree, I know we will get thru this somehow. TX can ya spare a 1/4 acre? I’m ready to move from the East.

  17. ragnar says:

    I do not have another 4 1/2 years to waste on the useless GOP-E.

    Especially with Boner crying 96 tears.

  18. Josh says:

    Just apologized to my boss for an unproductive day. He understood.

    Star Spangled Banner Whitney Houston

  19. ctdar says:

    Here’s the landslide we were told to expect

    • Ad rem says:

      As long as Bernanki (whose job now appears safe) can find the ink to keep monetizing our debt, we’re on the road to hyper-inflation. Energy, Transportation, Defense and Financials all continue to take it in the shorts, while healthcare and arms makers rally. The one bright spot…high dividends paid by leaders like ATT and Verizon, will suffer if the dividend taxes are potentially trippled by year’s end.

  20. Mikado Cat says:

    Why blame liberal friends, they have their beliefs and you have yours, its still a free country. Liberals didn’t win this election, the far right lost it.

    READ the exit polls. Democrats did not increase their numbers, Republicans failed to support Romney, and independents split. The far right insisted their voice and rhetoric go into the campaign, but then didn’t vote.

    I am pro life, but there is ZERO chance that Roe v Wade will EVER be reversed, or that serious anti abortion legislation will come from a federal level. Why shackle the party with that ball and chain? It is such a gift to the liberals and has no practical value to the right. It is as stupid as the Democrats removing God to please their looney fringe.

    • stellap says:

      Between 70% and 80% of youth – 18-29 – voted for Obama. Young women really believe that the President could take away their right to an abortion and their birth control. The “far right” didn’t have a plan to do that; in fact, that is what the Dem party pushed for months, and it worked.

    • stellap says:

      P.S.: Democrat turnout was down by about 8 million from 2008, while Republican turnout was down about 2 million.

  21. boricuafudd says:

    This is a backlash against the Tea Party, among other things. The Tea Party did a poor job of appealing to the mainstream, as it was being portrayed as too Extreme by the MSM. It was a recurring theme with some of the uninformed voters that I spoke too. In the end the people were scared, not of Obama but of the changes that the Republicans would bring. It is a total failure in the messaging, we let the MSM define us, and it scared people that don’t know better. In the end the people voted for the status quo. If we are to succeed, and we will, we need to affect the way that our positions are portrayed. We did not and the Romney campaign failed to speak to those that are easily convinced. Just as the Progs live in their bubble, we allowed the same to happen to us, and didn’t recognize the warning signs. While the Progs were painted our agenda as scary and extreme, we did not explain to the masses how their agenda was dangerous. Our message of hope and prosperity was good, but we did not do a good job or explaining how the Progs were wrong. So the Progs defined the way our agenda would affect them, not how it would benefit them. Hopefully, we have learned the lesson for the battle is not over, but we need to do better with our message, so that it is not scary, but welcome.

    • Mikado Cat says:

      I disagree, again read the exit polls, number one topic to voters was the economy, and reducing spending was a favored position. Economic conservatism is alive and well, social conservatives lost the election and have no traction with the general public.

      • boricuafudd says:

        There were other issues where the Tea Party is considered extreme, abortion for instance. I will relate to you my conversation with a co-worker of my wife. She is in her late fifties, her husband is sick and uses medicaid for his treatments. She works very hard and the only information she has is what is reported by the MSM, anyway we were talking last night, and she blurted out that she voted for Obama, I asked her why, and her answer goes to what I was referring to.

        She was afraid that is Obamacare is repealed her husband will lose his health insurance, she was also concerned that the way that Romney planned to lower the deficit would mean she would lose the deduction on her mortgage. She also thought that an abortion is a very personal decision and should not be made by politicians, she thought that Romney wanted to cut off all abortions. She knew I was involved with the Romney campaign and had participated in the local Tea Party, so she was concerned that it would affect the friendship. Bottom line is that she thought that Romney was too extreme, and beholden to the Tea Party.

        I asked her if she knew what Obama’s plan was for the same concerns that she had and she admitted that she really didn’t, but the pundits thought it was safer. She choose security in the short term, she saw the rhetoric about what would happen if Obama was re-elected as overboard. In other words she tune it out, and didn’t even consider it. Check around there are thousands like her.

      • stellap says:

        You must listen to Michael Medved. Bori is right about the Tea Party. They are the bogeyman of both the Democrats and establishment Republicans.

  22. Home from work…it’s snowing, really yucky out!!!

    Sort of a waste of a day…one of my co-workers thought he was being cute last night and texted me “Sorry!” I asked him for what (though I well knew) and he responded with how awesome Obama is (or words to that effect). So I asked him why he had bothered to text that he was sorry when in fact he wasn’t. Told him what a class act he was. Needless to say, he made a point of hightailing it before I got into the office.

    (insert devil smilie here)

  23. WeeWeed says:

    Any “Godfather” fans here?? I’ve decided Christie is really Sally Tessio – the money man, the go-between, for the final sellout.

  24. Two fun things from today:

    My boss called in and asked a co-worker if I was on suicide watch. She replied “Are you kidding? We’ve got her on homicide watch!”

    Had a chat with the company we use for pre-hiring checks. They’re in CA, He was filling me in on latest upgrades and ADA rules and happened to say “and in my dumb state” which set us off on all the different props that were voted on out there. I said ” I heard 30 passed” and he seemed pretty tickled that I even knew what that was. It was a nice moment. Like I said to my boss later “he’s one of us”.

  25. Auntie Lib says:

    Hi All –

    I now know exactly how it feels to be hit by a bus. I volunteered all day yesterday for various campaigns and was feeling pretty upbeat about the whole election – national, statewide, and locally, with the exception being that I was afraid that my boss would be swept out of office in the R wave, but I had a couple of “Plan B” alternatives on board, so I was just your Perky Polly all day long. Took my husband to dinner to celebrate his birthday – KNOWING! – that the republican always won when the election was on November 6th – and the Redskins lost so that meant the incumbent lost too. I mean, I had my ducks lined up and marching. We walked into the hotel where the “Victory Party” was in full swing – ton of people, lots of excited chatter. Only a few states had been called, so all was well on the national front – and the polls hadn’t closed here. Within about thirty minutes FOX called the race for Obama. Shock. Disbelief. NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Fast forward – by midnight we determined that the Libertarians had stolen the senate seat from Rehberg, and the governor’s chair from Rick Hill. By five o’clock this morning what we had expected to be a tsunami for our republican candidates was a disaster. We salvaged a bit. Steve Daines is our new Congressman, Tim Fox is our AG, and there is still the very smallest chance that Sandy Welch will be our Superintendent of Schools. Well, the good news is that my boss survived, so I still have a job. The bad news is that I really need it with the coming economic meltdown.

    So here I sit, staring at the computer screen, wondering whether to drink or go to bed. I wonder what went wrong and why? How could we all have been so far wrong????

    Thank you all for all your comments, thoughts, prayers, and healing thoughts – we will get through this and live to fight another day.

    I think bed. I am too old to function on an hour and a half of sleep. God bless us, everyone!

    • stellap says:

      Love you, Auntie! Good thoughts are on their way to you. Sleep sounds like a good idea; I didn’t get that much myself last night.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Love yer way, Auntie – and we know the feeling….. I myself don’t know whether to puke or go blind. God Bless America. (before we secede.)

  26. texan59 says:

    I wish the cops would’ve let our Marines just take care of this themselves. :evil: :evil:

  27. Mikado Cat says:

    I am doing my best not to show it, but inside, I’m angry. Its like picking up something hot an not knowing how to get rid of it. I don’t like it, but I am am going to assume everyone has some of it that wasn’t supporting Obama, and we are all running around looking for places to dump our load of anger.

    We went out to dinner tonight, and nothing seemed a bit different from normal. Live through it, learn, do better next time.

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