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I don’t understand the change in MTG. It’s like she flipped on a dime…wow…does anyone have any insights? (Marjorie Taylor Green MTG)
Choice of boyfriends.
Good for her. She explained her position already. She thinks releasing EVERYTHING online would jeopardize many more innocent people who were simply in attendance at the Stop the Steal Protest that cold January day. Leftwing lunatic keyboard commandos would have a field day DOXing people, for instance…… unacceptable.
People please, don’t let your imaginations get carried away . . .
I politely disagree. Prosecutors, FBI, Capital Police, and all other interested parties have been through those videos hundreds of times. They have looked through cell phone data, facial recognition software, and whatever other technology that they have available.
She would rather have people rot in prison on bogus charges than have the footage available to prove people innocent.
No. Not her style. She is a patriot and we cannot afford to now distrust each other
I REMEMBER that day, clearly. The first part, the actual rally, was being live streamed by RSBN, and as nobody was wearing face diapers, except the feds as it turns out, everyones faces were visible and so there has been PLENTY of opportunities for the kind of doxxing MTG is using as a lame excuse.
MTG has “gone D.C.” and is now in on the grift, cashing in on her initial position as MAGA.
ALL of the signs are there, just like they have been for Jordan, for some time.
Wake up and smell the swamp gas.
“Beats me, Lieutenant.”
MTG may have a skeleton or two, and the blackmail/ laundering stick/ carrot machine may have been employed.
Not a great look, IMHO.
Hillary had hundreds of FBlie files in her possession. Blackmail?
https://www.georgiarecord.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-breaking-bad/
What has she done ?
Read the article I posted.
People didn’t elect her to get soft.
She’s way out of her league if she moves away from principal.
She recently got divorced. Maybe she was getting too friendly with a certain person. Maybe the deep state was able to capture her phone calls, texts, and emails and persuade her to, ahem, cooperate.
I remember reading she got a divorce and after that it went down hill.
or motel visits.
Had an affair with a guy that ran a gym in GA while married.
HAS TO BE SOMETHING Down in the DIVORCE INFO.
She Has ALWAYS Come Across as, The OLDER WOMEN in My Life WOULD SAY,
” HIGH TESTOSTERONE ”
( in that SHE Acts MORE LIKE a GUY in HER INTERACTIONS With The Guys Than Guarded like a Woman Protecting Her REPUTATION … )
BOEBERT IS ALSO GOING Thru a DIVORCE SCENARIO .
WATCH FOR CONFLICTS WITHIN ” The FREEDOM CAUCUS ” and MAYBE SEE Who IS COMPROMISED…
( BTW, I MARRIED a ” TOMBOY ” , DATED ONLY TOMBOYS – except for 2x which Confirmed my Interest in TOMBOYS. That SAID, NOT ALL Tomboys ENCOURAGE ” INTEREST ” from the GUYS in the GROUP and MAY OPENLY
DISCOURAGE IT
to PROTECT Their STATUS Within the Group. I’ve WITNESSED a TOMBOY Be COMPLIMENTED on Her DRESSING
” TO THE NINES ” and HER STATING She APPRECIATED THE NOTICE – BUT SHE ” WASN’T ON THE MARKET “, She Was ” TAKEN ” and SHE Wanted to BE ” JUST ONE Of THE GUYS “. )
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9910613/Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-hits-Iowa-State-Fair-ahead-America-rally.html
You mentioned Boebert’s divorce. Made me wonder . . . Prior to the actual vote, Boebert was a definite NO on the debt ceiling bill. She campaigned against it in the days before the vote. Then she “missed” the vote .. running into the Chamber after it was over.
Jim Banks did the same thing. Arrived in the Chamber too late, missed the vote. Banks had just appeared on the War Room saying that he would be voting NO. He said it was the easiest decision on a vote he’d ever made –a most definite NO. Then he’s a no show.
BINGO !
Boebert Voted AGAiNST the H.Res Moving the VOTE to the Floor. H.Res 476
WHILE Banks Voted FOR moving the VOTE TO THE FLOOR.
I give Boebert a GOOD on the Procedure VOTE !
LOUSY / SUSPECT for BOTH on MISSING The BIG VOTE.
i Will NOT BE endorsing or Campaigning for Banks !
HE = Sen. Young. imo
Maybe they were getting misled on the time factor so they would miss the vote. The demons will do anything to get their way.
Oh, good grief. We’re off in the weeds looking for secret motivations. I’m a proud conspiracy theorist but even I have to step away from this suspicion around MTG because she made a decision we don’t fully understand.
The FBI has video of her doing a donky?
Many (most?) go to DC with the goal of changing it, only to be changed by DC instead.
It happened to an uncle of mine, who became unrecognizable in the end. He died miserable and had been a damn good guy, too.
Must be something in the air…….
it’s a normal thing for conservative females. flip flop. that’s why women are such easy targets. they’re malleable and will flip for almost any reason.
i’m 74 and i know a few things about women.
The men that go to DC do no better. RFKjr is real proud of Uncle Ted and Uncle Ted was the worst excuse for Senator until Schumer took over.
I am 76 and I am a woman.
You THINK you do.
While we’re making broad generalizations, I’ll submit that men are easier to blackmail because they are more sexually gullible.
I’m a woman and I agree with you. Women operate on emotion and can be very undependable. That includes me.
Retired Magistrate here: Most people in DC have a price; somebody paid MTG what she thought she was worth and she accepted. It’s the same old story: Mr. Smith goes to Washington and in the 1939 movie Mr. Smith stands by his principles, in real life most politicians can be bought; it just takes time and enough money. They get wealthy on the backs of the people who elected them.
Schumer and the Democrats put a big target on MTG and promised to take her out with millions of dollars from tech donors. I guess she was backed into a corner!
Its Cohen vs. Manafort, or Kari Lake vs.,…well just about any other.
Unless you have been there, how many can say with certainty they would be a Manafort, and see theur life destroyed, rather than a Cohen, and try to hold onto some part of it?
KL was offered a $100,000/ year board of directors position, if she would promise not to run for office for 2 years.
When she declined, they asked her to name her price.
This offer coming with people with unlimited amounts of $, the DeSantis backers.
How many would say “no”?
How about BOTH the carrot and the stick?
“Turn us down, theres this kiddie porn we will put on your hubby/adult sons phone, the FBI will ruin your family.
But, coooperate, an offshore account, money laundered, lots of mansions, etc.”
Unfortunate reality is that those capable of refusing such blandishmentd and threats, the Manaforts and KL’s, are few.
KL recently was told if she didn’t challenge her steal, that she could have a great political career.
Her responce, after sputtering was “You think I give a DAMN, about my “political career”??
I am trying to save my COUNTRY!”
McCarthy gave her back her committee assignments. She is relevant again. She is beholding to him.
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An informative and useful thread. Informative so that we recognize the tactics used against us, useful so that we may deploy those same tactics.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/j6ers-can-go-rot-hell-mtg-echoes-regime/
People might not 100% trust the Gateway Pundit, but there’s something fishy here to say the least.
She claims second thoughts because of this:
“…She added, “There’s a big concern because there are George Soros-funded groups and many other leftist groups that will sit there and view these videotapes for hours and hours using facial recognition software and doxx these people and hand them over to the FBI and the Department of justice. who we have no control over.”
Or The Deep State has members of her family bound and gagged somewhere in a warehouse.
Ausonius: It’s simple. She’s a politician.
Occam’s Razor: I wrote earlier today that RINOS in disguise have plagued Conservatism for decades.
They use Conservative rhetoric to get elected, and then stab us in the back, when it comes time to ACT like a Conservative!
Banging with.
As if FBI hasn’t already done this.
BS…BS….She doesn’t think they already have been given access to do this…Who does she thinks she is fooling.
Yes. The Capital police, Pelosi, and the FBI have gone through those tapes with a fine tooth comb multiple times.
MTG thinks that we are stupid.
That is like 2 Million People. Give me a break. Let them dox and see what the blow back is. Executing your free speech rights should be protected from Doxers and those that expose. Do It and see what happened. We don’t need the government protecting us this way. We need them protecting us from those who wish to take away our liberties.
Makes no sense, Margorie.
The FBI HAS facial recognition software.
They don’t need leftist groups to help them.
Reality is, with public release, MAGA groups could use facial recignitiin software, to identify every Federal, and local officer working as instigators in the crowds, and THATS what MTG is supporting them blocking.
And, seeing through this bogus excuse she is giving, in my mind at least, removes any remaining doubt that she has sold out/caved, and is now part of the MAGA Controlled opposition.
Whoever follows President Trump is going to have to be seriously hardcore. And President Trump needs to prioritize dismantling the Department of Justice and the voter fraud industry or we’re never going to get anywhere. Voters in this country would take care of business if allowed to. I have no doubt about that. But that would mean clean elections.
Gun sales have been strong recently: will that be a factor, when Election Fraud 2024 is attempted?
now see, i get perma-moderated for making softer suggestions that we never will because we don’t have the sack anymore. and then all of a sudden i am a fed and a glowie and hurting people’s feelings.
strange times….
Totally Correct.
I mean, they take the oath. Evidently with no clear understanding of what this means. “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC”. Yet somehow all of them, including President Trump, are enthralled with, and spend most of their time and an enormous amount of our resources taken care of foreigners. No, Mr President, we don’t want criminals let out of jail. No Mr President we don’t care about the hardships faced by illegals. President Trump did fantastic with rebalancing trade a little bit, and slowly but surely strangling the war machine. Building the wall was gigantic. If the election had not been stolen from him, it would have been finished by now. He would never have made it secure enough for me. But having it there would have given the next guy a tremendous advantage. The current Administration is hell bent on destroying our country. And they’re doing it without opposition.
Jessie is correct. There’s no middle ground with people like this. It’s going to take a Nuremberg type situation to cleanse our nation. Fairly. Honestly. But without blinking. Because we can’t take the chance that another Kushner type will worm his way in and sabotage things from the inside.
There is your white terrorist
Who, pray tell, will be paying for this?
Her brain matter is just as grey as her hair. These people are sick.
strfker,
IMHO, like so many, you are focusing on the SYMTOMS, rather than the disease.
Its like far too much “medicine” which does the same, focusing on the symptoms while ignoring the root cause, often an unhealthy lifestyle.
Sundance has attempted to point us in the right direction; “Its ECONOMIC POLCY, Stupid” to paraphrase.
EVERYTHING they do, including the open border, shutting down energy, etc.is all about accomplishing THEIR goal of destroying America, because a strong, Nationalist, energy independant America is an insurmountable impediment TO their Globullist goals.
EVERYTHING PDJT does, is promoting policies which are based on ECONOMIC Nationalism, in order to build up an ECONOMICALLY strong, Nationalist America precisely BECAUSE it stands as an impediment to their plans for World domination.
“There are $Trillions at stake!”
I, personally would like to see some people “released” from prison (over 1000 J6 prisoners and counting, for instance).
Beyond that, USA incarcerates more people, per capita than any other country in the World, has for many years, and it is TPTB that have set it up that way.
Do you suppose its possible that has been intentional, just like their manufactured “opiod crises” that layed the foundation for the “fentanyl crises” or their getting us in unending wars with insane ROE, backdoor draft, back to back deploymentd etc. in order to wipe out as many of our finest as they could, etc.
It is PDJT’s ECONOMIC policies, that they oppose, because they destroy the enemies source of power to destroy America.
“See the whole board” as the chess master admonishes.
Perhaps because HERE is not the appropriate place for such conversations?
Yes, Sundance does everything ON HIS END, to insure the identities of those of us posting comments, can not be detirmined by,…THEM.
However, in order for my comment to be posted by Sundance, so that you (and EVERYBODY, including them) can read it, it has to travel thru numerous ATT/Verizon etc. nodes and pathways.
Do you REALLY think they don’t know who I am, or you or any commenter?
Just as only a fool would join ANY organised group, because obviously the leader IS, or is sleeping with a “compromised individual” only a fool or a compromised individual would come on this site, and post such comments as to steer the conversations in directions best avoided.
How is it that some people don’t “get this”, and then wonder why thise who do conclude they must be a provacatuer?
FIRST he/we have to dismantle/dismember the RNC, and the State ‘franchises’ that control EVERY State R party, at the top.
WE can not excercise POLITICAL POWER, which is the power to change public policy, until we break the stranglehold and control that the Uniparty has, to prevent US from actual representation.
The key to that is STATE parties; they are the ones that insure (in States they paint as “red”) that RINOS like Graham and McConnell, etc.) keep getting reelected, by working with Dems, who run hardcore leftists against them, forcing R voters to vote for the “lesser of two weavils”.
In States they want “blue” the State R parties do not even make a pretence of fighting the Dems, actually working with them to keep the State blue.
And, when they want to “turn (paint, its only on the surface) a State “purple” only THEN do the Dems run candidates that try to cast themselves as moderates.
The same thing is done in the House, with districts.
How is it that the R Speaker of the House is from “hopelessly blue” California? The same State as Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Nuisance?
Focusing on National over State, and on public officeholders rather than State R party officials is getting distracted by the lazer pointer, and its what they want.
Trying to unseat McDanials, when State Party delegates were going to vote FOR her, was an excercise in futility, which is why PDJT ‘endorsed’ her, same with Kevin.
Cause the UNIPARTY wants it that way. And the key is STATE R PARTY LEADERSHIP; THATS where the thwarting the will of the people occurs.
And therefore, THAT is the point where we need to apply leverage; the R party is finally, irrevocable headed for a permanent split. Whether it happens before or after 2024, its GOING TO HAPPEN.
And when it does, its not JUST the base, but the R party mechanisms and structures below the State party leadership that need to either “walk away” or unseat the leadership, in order to have the FOUNDATION (like building a building) from which to build a National party.
THIS is why I frankly disparage those who proudly proclaim they are registered as “Independant” (hint: there IS NO Independant party, no party platfom and so no political power to influence public policy) and why I encourage all to follow theprecinctstrategy, in order to build up such a STATE PARTY hierarchy, a structure, a latticework.
The KEY to ALL is STATE R PARTY LEADERSHIP; THATS the point of control for ALL; Elected officials, hence Public Policy on elections, school choice, the border, and Economic policy.
Great post dutchman… there is much work to do.
In 2023, you are either with President Trump MAGA/America First or you are a communist, anti-American.
“Marxist” is a better word choice.
Even more accurate than that would be “Maoist”.
I respectfully disagree; either takes you down the rabbit hole of argueing about “Ideology” and definitions of “fascism” vs “marxism”.
Its CONmunism, as in a CON; there IS NO ‘ideology’ thats just the “patter” of narrative the con artist tells, to fool the marks.
Globullists, neo-feudalists, Satanists they are those who crave to control the World, and like the poor, have been with us always, and will be until the end.
This sight here is the only loyal Trump supporter. Everything else has come under some degree of control.
Alex has even knuckled under a little bit at InfoWars, at least there’s tremendous pressure on him; all the other sites just folded up like a cheap chair.
Courage isn’t exactly something that journalists are known for !
I know, there’s no reason to talk anyone when you’ve got Trump.
Everyone is looking for a ray of hope.
american thinker caved months ago.
Revolver and War room are both MAGA.
Mike 30Pence in Iowa today at RINO Joni’s BBQ. Fake biker, fake Christian, fake patriot.
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The former vice president and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis were among the White House contenders appearing at a rally at the state fairgrounds near Des Moines hosted by U.S. Sen. Joni Ernst. Her annual political event, the “Roast and Ride” — a combination barbecue-rally and motorcycle ride — kicks off a busy summer campaign season.
Zoom Zoom to nowhere.
Damn. Pence looks good on that bike
The bike makes the man, as it were.
He’s such a fraud.
Best post of the day! So true!
What a fool.
President Trump is the only candidate that is authentic. No props. No bike. No apron and not flipping burgers. All are fraud.
Rolling blunder.
Show us your tats and body piercings! HA!
Cuomo’s nipples and Pence’s Prince Albert!
Zieg Heil, Herr Pence!
See those expensive bikes. They purchased them with our money….what the admin uses to bribe them. They think they are real dudes. I think they are scumsuckers. SPIT!
Sundance, Treepers:
This is a Big F’n deal, to quote the resident. I’ve not seen any conservative media, MAGA, not even Truth Social make an issue of it. But it matters. And I hope those who read this will understand why.
This censorship, if allowed to stand unchallenged, will be for ALL of future Trump appearances on MSM, controlled media. They will censor him. They will tape delay him. Even in the debates. This cannot be allowed to stand.
Trump says, “they’re not coming for me, they’re coming for you, I’m just standing in their way.” What happens if he doesn’t stand up for free speech. For the First Amendment? If he won’t stand in their way then we will have lost it. And have to win it back without his help. This is not a strategic surrender. It is surrender. Of our most important right of all.
Surely Trump World has the missing minutes that were edited out. DJT must put those edited segments on his Truth Social, Rumble, get it out to the world. Or he will accept the sanitized version of himself to be presented to the American voting public.
I implore readers to take these words to heart. Sundance. Take notice. Forecast how this ends without immediate redress. Trump. Censored. Without a peep. Even by himself or his base. This doesn’t end well. Alarm sounded. Will anyone hear?
Donald Trump and Fox News play it safe in town hall as network faces lawsuit
UK Guardian, June 1, 2023
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2023%2Fjun%2F01%2Ffox-news-trump-town-hall-iowa
“But Thursday night’s town hall with Trump in the Des Moines suburb of Clive was pre-taped, giving Fox News the option of editing out egregious lies about the 2020 election in general, or Dominion and Smartmatic in particular, before it was broadcast.”
My apol if previously posted but I thought very apropo.
An interesting read about the US and the conflict in Ukraine as of today, including discussion of rumors and predictions.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-6323-west-stymied-by-strong
Fascinating. Much like US after both World Wars. Other than Pearl Harbor in WWII, very little damage was done to the US mainland. I think a couple stray Japanese bombs in North West, i think an Aleutian Island, were there any east coast interactions with U-boats?
Russia seems to have some stray drone firecrackers on apartments?
And we were able to leverage our no damage to our economic benefit.
And . . . Hawaii & Alaska were not US states at the time.
Towns southeast of Belgorod, Russia, have been shelled repeatedly over the the past week. The videos I’ve seen on Twitter show a lot of destroyed buildings and homes. I think there would have been a lot of casualties if most people hadn’t evacuated. Strangely, the Russia government seems to be downplaying it.
2 Japanese submarines surfaced and one proceeded to shell an oil refinery in the LA area and the other shelled a radio station (?) in either Washington or Oregon. The Japanese launched balloons carrying incendiary devices from Japan and high altitude winds brought them over the Pacific Northwest where I believe they started a few small fires.
A U-boat surfaced off Eastern Long Island and 4 saboteurs ended up in NYC but before they could do anything one of their number contacted the FBI and turned them all in and another 4 saboteurs that another U-boat had landed in Florida. I believe all were executed except 2?
https://war-history.fandom.com/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during_World_War_II
That’s about 150k per homeless person. Could have bought em all luxury airstream trailers and given them 50k cash, not that that’s a viable solution for the ones that are mentally Ill and/or addicted, but it beats a free meth pipe. Where does all the $ go?
California Spent $17 Billion on Homelessness. It’s Not Working.
https://archive.is/jQbEf
Altogether, the federal government spends more than $1.1 trillion a year on 134 welfare programs. State and local governments add about $744 billion more. Since 1965 anti‐poverty spending has totaled more than $30 trillion.
https://www.cato.org/cato-handbook-policymakers/cato-handbook-policymakers-9th-edition-2022/poverty-welfare#:~:text=Altogether%2C%20the%20federal%20government%20spends,fight%20poverty%20(Figure%201).
Was just listening to Thomas Sowell audiobook The Sowell Reader. The link below takes you the part where he addresses the War on Poverty (also mentioned in the Cato article) .
The anointed claim a crisis exists that we need to address even though the issue has been improving. Government intervention makes the matter worse but the anointed claim things would have been even worserer had they not stolen our money to save us.
And the # of Americans “living in poverty” goes up.
The predecessor to the DEA, (FBNDD) created in the 30’s, the “drug problem” was really insignificant, effecting a very small percentage of the population.
Billions of $/ year and it has ballooned.
Its not rocket science: if they SOLVE the (manufactured) problem, they have no purpose.
If, by their actions they exacerbate and increase the size of the problem, they have job security and can grow, hence more power.
FDA, DEA, ALL “Safety net” programs, all government programs steer away from self-sufficiency and personal responsibility, which inevitably leads to more dependency.
“Feed a hungry man (woman, child family) today, they will be back tomorrow.
Teach them to fish, and they will soon be selling fish to others.
And a key aspect to growing poverty, was getting men out of the house, i.e.1965 welfare act.
The national dept has gone up nearly 20 trillion since obama, yet the basics, such as health care, infrastructure, academics, security, quality of life, have all declined.
Another 20 trillion in their hands and we will be a disaster area.
MTG fell victim to the swamp flu. ….
It effects the ego symtoms are greed lust thirst for power…
Swamp gas is hard for many to resist. ….not many recover
Watch and share widely.
https://thehighwire.com/
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After declining to take audience questions after his first New Hampshire campaign event today, Ron DeSantis lashed out at a reporter for asking him about it while he was chatting with members of the crowd individually.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-lashes-reporter-are-blind-rcna87246
DeSantis signed a hate speech bill earlier this year at his donors’ request.
Incredible damage done by Minnesota DFL majority in just FOUR MONTHS
https://www.rightnowmn.org/damage_done_by_minnesota_dfl_majority_in_just_four_months
Julie Kelly on release of J6 video…
FYI, for those interested in the “Sound Of Freedom” movie that Sundance posted about yesterday… I emailed Angel Studios support asking about the “Pay-It-Forward” freebie tickets, specifically how many one person can claim.
Their response: “We are only able to give one FREE ticket per email address.”
Of course, that doesn’t preclude a person from having multiple email addresses.
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
Going through more J6 committee transcripts. Guess what interview still has not been posted? Robert Engel–the Secret Service agent whom Cassidy Hutchinson claimed Trump lunged at in the car on Jan 6. GOP should release all hidden transcripts starting with Engel’s.
11:31 AM · Jun 3, 2023
Hmm …
“Washington DC area ‘explosion’ sound caused by military jets pursuing unresponsive plane:
DOD Military fighter planes pursuing unresponsive Cessna Citation break sound barrier”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-dc-area-explosion-sound-caused-military-jet-department-defense
A comment on Fox News Site: