This doesn’t seem very science-y, all things considered. After originally posting their new changed guidelines for quarantine from ten days to five, and getting a lot of Branch Covidians confused about it, the CDC quietly edited the guidelines again to add: you can exit quarantine if “symptoms are resolving (without fever for 24 hours)”…
This is what it looked like originally:
And this is what the guidelines look like now:
It would appear the CDC originally responded to the requests from the corporate community of employers for an anticipatory change in quarantine times from ten days to five. Likely an effort to keep people working.
Now, it looks like the CDC is responding to the uptick in cases, to get people back to work even faster:
500,000 people out sick would definitely impact the “workforce and operations” of businesses.
Not very science-y or public health related – but rather, CDC guidance determined by business operational needs.
All of this COVID shifting, and CDC justification has rightly made the vaccinated population, and those who were likely to get into the booster phase, a little more suspect of the government motive.
ICYMI – FYI – WTF — Trust Science — ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ —
It appears, much like the CDC, et al, statistics are one thing, opinion (or politics) is another. Page 3 from the RKI report: Die Infektionsgefährdung wird
für die Gruppe der Ungeimpften als sehr hoch, für die Gruppen der Genesen und Geimpften mit
Grundimmunisierung (zweimalige Impfung) als hoch und für die Gruppe der Geimpften mit Auffrischimpfung (dreimalige Impfung) als moderat eingeschätzt. Diese Einschätzung kann sich kurzfristig durch neue Erkenntnisse ändern. Die aktuelle Version der Risikobewertung findet sich unter
The risk of infection is
for the group of the unvaccinated as very high, for the groups of the convalescent and vaccinated with
Primary vaccination (two vaccinations) rated as high and moderate for the group of those vaccinated with booster vaccinations (three vaccinations). This assessment can change at short notice due to new findings. The current version of the risk assessment can be found at
REmember this: If your kid has a fever, 24 hours fever free, send them back to school?
Many years ago, when i was a young and naive mom, I got a phone call from the school because my daughter had a 99.2 temperature. I rushed in to pick her up, drove straight to my pediatrician’s office. My pediatrician laughed at me, literally.
I grew up with my Mom consulting Dr. Spock. When I was pregnant I picked up one used and it was the first place I looked! Fever had to be over 101 and for them to be really sick for me to call the Dr. But without seeing my mother calmly deal with a bunch of my siblings, I might have gone a different way.
My mother was guided by Dr Spock as well. We also had a family doctor that prescribed aspirin and lots of water for most childhood maladies.
All that, and lots of garlic and other natural home remedies thru the years. You’ll live last 100!
I had a friend who went to jail for 5 years. In that time the doctors who serviced the prisons would do nothing for minor ailments. He played the guitar and picked up a finger nail fungus from the guitar. The doctors said it would resolve it’s self, but it got worse. One of the lifers told him to eat a couple garlic cloves every day for 10 days and he was cured.
I got a toenail fungus and my Dr. prescribed medicine that took several months to resolve. I finally started the garlic routine and mine went away as well. M friend said he used this cure for many common ailments. So I believe in the garlic cure.
Now is the time to fill your flower beds with medicinal plants and learn how to preserve and use them.
Yeah, I remember those days, that’s back when most doctors were still private practice and those are almost like dinosaurs now, i.e. non existent, most of today’s doctors are owned lock, stock and barrel by the giant “health care systems”, they tell the doctors how to practice medicine, how long they can spend with patients, what tests they will run, etc. Etc. They promised the doctors they would make more $$$, have less expenses, and be a part of a huge network, blah blah blah, most doctors bought into it and now some regret it, but it’s too late, the system owns them and their practice. In my area, we have 2 of these “health care systems” and they own every hospital/clinic/doc office in town. Most people are clueless as to why this is/was a very bad idea and will be deleterious to “health care”
At my latest physical, I asked my GP if he would prescribe Ivermectin or HCQ if I got COVID. “Of course not.” So I asked, “Why not?” “People are getting sued for that.”
Doc is friendly, learns… for instance, year before he marveled that I have never taken any maintenance prescription, and haven’t been prescribed anything in more than a decade. I told him I prefer holistic and preventive strategies. I asked him about some supplements… didn’t know of any of them. Hmm.
Fast forward to this year (same time as the Ivermectin question). He says, “I see my note here about the supplements, no prescriptions. Have you been sick?” I replied, “Nope.” “COVID?” “I just asked you about Ivermectin ‘if,’ so that seems like an admission of ‘no.'”
He scratched his chin with the pen for a bit. “I think I need to read up on some things.”
“Yes, you do. Consensus medicine reacts to symptoms to mask the cause until it’s so bad you need expensive interventions like chemo. Maybe try to help your patients avoid that.”
He gave me a look for just a second… then pressed on. Will be interesting to see what he says next year, assuming I can’t find a Direct Primary Care physician before that.
This is the whole purpose of Obamacare (thank you John McCain). It is to impose the government directed “standard of care”. The doctor is not allowed to evaluate you and make an informed judgement. So we can substitute “PA” and “NP” with little training other than to look up in the “standard of care” and order tests.
Great vid. Clearly demonstrates the foolishness of this supposed science that dictates the direction the CDC recommends.
Don’t trust your government and FJB.
When the money stops, the games stop!
Excellent. It’s all so random.
In Latest Ludicrous COVID Measures, France Bans… Popcorn?
https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/12/28/in-latest-ludicrous-covid-measures-france-bans-popcorn/
Some Guidelines that are finally actually based on the evolving science although as Sundance has opined I’m not sure the new guidelines are actually based on the evolving science but on the political science.
Does this mean that the kids can now finally throw away the masks when they are not sick?
There is no “EVOLVING SCIENCE” directing these guidelines.
NONE.
Never has been.
Eg:
CDC knows EVERYTHING about MASKS.
They study and simulate pandemics and use masks in CERTAIN CASES in their own labs.
CDC would have recommended YEARS AGO to keep some masks in your first aid kit in case of pandemic
if THEY WORKED on aerosolized viruses.
But they learned more than that about MASKS:
Exactly what Dr Fauci told 60 Minutes 2 years ago.
DON’T WEAR THEM.
Not only do they not work to block small viral particles but they will give the wearer a
FALSE FEELING OF PROTECTION.
Which will lead to outcomes opposite of the intended one and
DUMB CONVOLUTED GUIDELINES like the ones this nurse is speaking of.
Oh, dear God! Moms have know this forever!!!!
“if they are asymptomatic or their
symptoms are resolving (without
fever for 24 hours)”
CDC
The dam is definitely breaking…
“… stop agonizing over “cases” and focus on those who are hospitalized or at risk of dying “
Yeah, that’s what WE said for close to 2 years now
… and were demonized for it
You can find audio of President Trump stating exactly those words in March 2020.
“responsible” Americans and “vaccine deniers” aka “irresponsible Americans”.
Maybe we don’t want the frickin’ mRNA spike protein in our bodies wreaking havoc!
I got a taste of probably what I would have gone through if I would have gotten the vaccine.
The dam is breaking because cases are going to go through the roof with Omricon. EVERYONE will get it. And it won’t look good politically on Biden so only now they will drop the focus on cases.
The damn will break when enough celebrities and wealthy folks die from the experimental vaccine.
I will shut down the virus. – Joe Biden 11-2020
There is no Federal Solution – Joe Biden 12-2021
Joe is a failure. I said from the beginning the states should set their own policies on the virus. It was all to discredit Trump, who did a fine job. But never forget, every member of Congress is invested in the Vaccine companies.
I also remember that hundreds of congressional members, their families and staffers secretly being treated with Ivermectin. Aaron Rodgers said the same about the NFL, that many pro footballers were secretly using the same regimen that he used to fight the chinese flu, featuring Ivermectin. Sure can’t let the general public in on this though. No sirree! Got too many “vaccine” jabs to sell.
Our “consequences” are living a good and healthy life in spite of you!
Yeah. Sure.
Hop on one leg. Toss X virgins into volcanoes. Touch your toes with your elbow. Bark like a dog. And Then…. We will give you permission to have Christmas or to visit your children or go to the grocery store.
This is absolute Bollocks. Tell these political nitwits to get stuffed.
Free Citizens do Not need the permission of Tyrants to Live.
Take the pledge: I will not wear a mask. I will not vaccinate.
Force them to make you leave the store, make them send you home. The political crap ends when they have no patrons, and no staff. Retailers and businesses of all kinds must choose, US, or FJB.
Include I will not test.
Or, I will not take a jab in the arm, in the nose, or up the arse!
Make Nuremberg Great Again !
We don’t need a couple hundred scientists from the CDC to figure this out. Been doing this since we were kids. Ok I’m better now, I’m going back to school, work or out.
Yeah, and we also tried rubbing the thermometer on the bed, to get it up, ..and smart moms, touching our foreheads, busted us.
These f’d up standards, are going to drive employers to just say “forget it. go back to the old standards, if your sick, and you know your sick, STAY HOME, cause we don’t want you coming in and making everyone else sick. If yer not sick, get yer arse in here, cause we NEED YA!”
Yeah, this is just standard sickness rules, fever free for 24 hours.
I looked at the Covid stats for Delaware today . OMG it’s a disaster!! (sarc) over 1100 so called “positive cases” . And just now I read our Gov Carney tonight issued another State of Emergency cause of so many “cases” supposedly overwhelming hospitals. This is total dystopian nightmare again 2021-2022. I am praying even more for God to stop this madness
Difficult to stop with so many devils in the way.
Crazy indeed! Sooooo – are we the gullible sheep in the US supposed to understand that all positive cases are headed to the hospitals for immediate, life-saving, emergency care? And why oh why are people getting tested – unless required by their employers or traveling? After 2 years, neither my husband nor I have been tested even once. We’ve traveled extensively, are out and about as usual, and never wear a mask (except when threatened on a plane). Even as an experienced RN, I would never have expected so many to be so afraid, gullible, and compliant. What a disappointment in my fellow man.
Do guidelines matter if the following is true?
— SIDE EFFECT OR GENOCIDE BY DESIGN —
When you have six islands with the “world’s lowest Covid rates”. And, they used very little of the COVID-19 vaccine.
Then compare this to Gibraltar, which vaccinated 99% of its population with an astounding 2500% increase in COVID cases per day.
You don’t need a PCR test to tell you what is going on!
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/these-six-islands-have-some-of-the-lowest-covid-19-rates-in-the-world-.html
Now let’s add the following “93% of the people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine” posted earlier.
Today’s Report, “96% of the people in Germany with COVID were fully vaccinated”.
Would you deliberately infect millions of people with something that kills?
Why yes, yes they would. Maybe covid was just a test case for what comes next, as they measure the amount of rebellion to their demands…
And yet – people seem to (& probably need to for their own peace of mind/fear for their vaccinated selves) completely ignore the skyrocketing reports of life-threatening side-effects, sudden death, incidence of miscarriage, infertility, etc., etc. My 24yo healthy grandson collapsed with myocarditis (“fully vaccinated & liberal), and months later still unable to work out, is short of breath, etc. He is now refusing a booster and finally educating himself on the vaccines.
Licking there finger, and sticking it in the air, to detirmine govt policy.
Reminds me of “the War on Terror” when they came up with the color codes.
Maybe they will streamline the process, to “make it easier”?
Red means STAY HOME, even if you test negative and have no symptoms.
Orange means stay home, if you test positive, with no symptoms.
Yellow means stay home, unless its every other Tuesday, OR we say to go to work, anyway.
Etc.
Oooh! and they could make it SECTOR-SPECIFIC!
“Transportation is green today, food production is yellow, and art creation (this means YOU, Hunter!) is “GREEN, Baby, green!” but,…don’t forget the Big guy, right?”
Much simpler for the unwashed masses, than all that “cases” tickers, they could give it like the Weather report,…call it the Covid report,..have the Covid reporter stand in front of a greenscreen, with map on it, and show the various colors, in various parts of thexU.S., for each sector.
F’ing idiots, …
Just wait, the goalposts will be moved again in another 3 to 6 days. The Uniparty is desperately trying to peddle fear but it seems there are no takers. The desperation will force them to alter the rules soon as the Uniparty is looking for instant gratification.
So does this mean we can hop on a plane after 5 days???
Not only “hop” on it. You can fly it.
I DO hope this “Branch Covidians” label catches on. The great unwashed laughing & belittling the puffed-up, self-absorbed Karens who think they are above the rest might have heads exploding across the land.
I call them masked covidians
And maskerbator if they are wandering around
Alone sporting a muzzle
I just can’t belittle or demonize the people who got vaccinated in good faith. I fear their immune systems are going to falter and we really will have overrun hospitals and people dying in droves. I don’t wish what’s coming on anyone. I am very sad over this travesty.
I’m no fancy Epidemiology Expert thingy… but here’s my recommendation: “If you feel like you have a head cold, or perhaps something a little worse, don’t breath on anybody (especially me).”
Boom. Done.
One way or another, omicron’s clade is likely going to be the terminal wave.
No one is fully vaxxed anymore. Get back in line for your boosters.
Those that have been infected with the ‘Covid Panic’ will never get better. The 12th booster will certainly do the trick and they can take the face diaper off when driving alone.
The jabbed will have a difficult time admitting that they have been conned.
The Covid Panic is a mental illness. There are no vaccines for that class of disease.
Return to work when you feel better, when you feel good enough to work.
Does anyone else have whiplash yet? All those brave “frontline” “first responders” who worked through all of this, got rewarded by threats which created The Great Resignation. Now, the government back pedals after hearing from Big Business that the current model is unsustainable. No shxt Sherlock!
What’s interesting, to me at least, what happens in Healthcare when people stop going to doctors and hospitals and stop buying overpriced health insurance (thanks Obama!) because they don’t trust any of it any more?? What happens to the hospitals bottom line? As I understand it, there’s an enormous nursing shortage (the doctor shortage started with ObamaCare) so that nurses who are available to work are paid crazy hourly premiums just to come work a short shift. How does that impact their bottom line? They are going to lose their shirts. Oh yeah, but the Great Reset includes crashing ALL SYSTEMS, so they can be “built back better” – meaning government owns everything and you’ll do as they say or die, which is another one of their goals – to get the world population down to 500 million or so.
What a clstr f*k (pardon my shorthand French).
When (not if) large hospital chains feel a bottom-line crunch, they will turn to the Democrat Congress and lobby harder for government-funded “Medicare For All”. You don’t see any Ivy League universities hurting for money since the government underwrote student loans. Same math applies to healthcare.
When you can argue against a hypothesis, it’s “Science”.
When you’re not allowed to argue against a hypothesis, it’s “Propaganda”.
I think we should start calling it the #schmovids because the variants will continue, as do all viruses.
We likely had Omicron before Christmas. It wasn’t even a bad cold. I took a total of three Motrin over three days for the headache. It was over in four days for me, three, four and six for others. It wasn’t even in the top ten colds I’ve had. Obviously earlier waves were rougher.
We laid low, because we didn’t want to spread it. Not because of some order.
Didn’t get tested because lines and availability were ridiculous.
We upped our vitamins and got a lot of rest, but stayed active and didn’t just stay in bed.
So these extensive scientific studies that show “the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after” were conducted by who and when exactly?
A Breitbart Radio host on SiriusXM Patriot channel yesterday noted that these so-called guidelines changed ONLY when the Obedient People became sick with covid. We maggot peasants can “tolerate” lockdowns and mandates, but when the Cool Folk are impacted, the rules are relaxed.
CLUSTER
I think the important lesson from this is that it’s good to know they are still cautious about tanking the economy. It’s hard to tell with these people anymore. This means if enough people resist the jabs we have leverage.
Follow the Science!!!
Fauci says if they don’t like what I say, they don’t believe in Science.
In the future we will call this a very dark time for modern medicine.
And that’s on “follow the science” Fauci and CDC.
The Science of propaganda and authoritarian control…