Oblique but BIG Release – OIG Horowitz Outlines Notification of FBI for Contractor Database Abuse…

A very interesting release from the Office of Inspector General (OIG), Michael Horowitz, [SEE HERE] outlines some very interesting information especially for those who have followed the arc of the NSA database exploitation for several years.

On its face the OIG release outlines a review and finding, actually a warning, by Horowitz’s office about FBI contractor access to “a certain national security database.”  The release is titled: “Management Advisory: Notification of Concerns Identified in the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Contract Administration of a Certain Classified National Security Program”, and the advisory part is particularly interesting when absorbed through the prism of prior information.

Notice the date of the first notification from the OIG to the FBI, January 22nd 2020, this is a detail within the report that will be missed by most. It was little discussed on January 29, 2019, when the OIG revealed “Misconduct by Two Current Senior FBI Officials and One Retired FBI Official While Providing Oversight on an FBI Contract” [LINK] Indeed we know the OIG was reviewing FBI contractor access to the NSA database as a result of both FISA judge Rosemary Collyer and FISA judge James Boasberg reports.

On the surface of the current release the OIG is noting concerns and a warning shared with the FBI about ongoing contractor access to the NSA database; thus, a “classified national security program” becomes defined. However, in the background of this current release it appears the OIG is using this public notification as a CYA of sorts. Meaning the OIG is saying publicly they have advised the FBI of “concerns” with this database being abused.

As specifically, and in my opinion intentionally, noted by the OIG the FBI used their intelligence authority to “classify” their response to IG Horowitz warning; and now Horowitz is informing the public of that opaque FBI approach.

Essentially, this can be looked at as Horowitz calling out the FBI for hiding information, yet the IG is using carefully worded public information to do so.

Read this next paragraph carefully…. EMPHASIS MINE:

[…] The classification marking of the working draft report, the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and associated restrictions on official government travel, and the unavailability to the OIG of secure video conferencing capability have contributed to the delays in finalizing this review.

So that we can begin the process of resolving issues that we identified during the review in a timely manner, we have determined that it would be in the OIG’s and the FBI’s interests to conclude our review by treating the OIG’s working draft report and its 11 recommendations as a management advisory.

Further, based on the oral and written feedback previously provided by the FBI on the working draft report, we consider the 11 recommendations contained within the working draft report to be final and their status “resolved.”

Consistent with the ordinary recommendation resolution process, we ask that the FBI please provide us within 90 days your response concerning specific actions completed or alternative corrective actions proposed or taken to address the recommendations.

So the FBI hid their response to the IG warning behind the cloud of “classification”, leaving the IG with no alternative except to say the classified response has to be accepted as the final FBI response to the IG warning.  The IG is then saying to the FBI you have 90 days to tell us what you did to address the contractor access abuses.

The OIG is covering his ass, and telling us why.

Keep in mind this contractor access to the bulk NSA metadata is a big deal.  All of the FISA audits in the past six years have pointed out how FBI contractors abuse their access to the database and unlawfully extract information without minimization efforts required by fourth amendment protections.  The scale of the abuse is actually stunning; and now the OIG has reviewed the same process and found the same issues uncorrected.

The FBI is attempting to retain an unlawful process.  Former NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers said: the system itself is too easy to exploit and too difficult to manage, as he tried to shut down part of the search function (“about queries”) within the database itself.

Here’s the full IG “Management Advisory”:


To understand what specifically is being addressed within this IG review, it is worthwhile revisiting an interview by Flynn’s defense counsel Sidney Powell as she shares information that CTH readers are very knowledgeable about; as well as a reminder of the backstory.

Michael Flynn’s defense attorney Sidney Powell hits it out of the park as she connects the dots within the surveillance state and the use of FBI contractors to mine the NSA database.

Must Watch:


A DEEP DIVE – How Did It Work?

Start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26, 2017. Review the details within the FISC opinion.

I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report (full pdf below) because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the FISA court about their activity, and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.

Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes. That complexity also helps the media avoid discussing it; and as a result most Americans have no idea of the scale and scope of the Obama-era surveillance issues. So we’ll try to break down the language.


For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.

Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.

The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.

While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option, and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).

Here are some significant segments:

The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.

Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.

♦ FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.

♦ FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.

And that’s just from a phone number.

Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc. Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.

The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.

As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.

In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy; and database access was from the FBI network:

But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.

Read this next excerpt carefully.

The operators were searching “U.S Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non compliant”.

85% !! “representing [redacted number]”.

We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 10,000 and 99,999 [six digits]. If we take the middle number of 50,000 – a non compliant rate of 85 percent means 42,500 unlawful searches out of 50,000.

The [six digit] amount (more than 10,000, less than 99,999), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six month period, November 2015 to April 2016.

Also notice this very important quote: “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” This tells us the system users were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic identifier, repeatedly over different dates.

Specific person(s) were being tracked/monitored.

Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.

That means the 85% unlawful FISA-702(16)(17) database abuse has likely been happening since 2012.

2012 is an important date in this database abuse because a network of specific interests is assembled that also shows up in 2016/2017:

  • Who was 2012 FBI Director? Robert Mueller, who was selected by the FBI group to become special prosecutor in 2017.
  • Who was Mueller’ chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley, who became one of the lead lawyers on the Mueller special counsel.
  • Who was 2012 CIA Director? John Brennan (remember the ouster of Gen Petraeus)
  • Who was ODNI? James Clapper.
  • Remember, the NSA is inside the Pentagon (Defense Dept) command structure. Who was Defense Secretary? Ash Carter

Who wanted NSA Director Mike Rogers fired in 2016? Brennan, Clapper and Carter.

And finally, who wrote and signed-off-on the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment and then lied about the use of the Steele Dossier? The same John Brennan, and James Clapper along with James Comey.

Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)

OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?

Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:

And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.

[Coincidentally (or likely not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the very next day on April 19th, 2016.]

None of this is conspiracy theory.

All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:

This specific footnote, if declassified, could be a key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.

Note: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.

Summary: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) system. The database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities.

The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.

Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:

SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE] Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so the Trump administration went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE] Unfortunately it didn’t work as shown by the 2018 FISC opinion rendered by FISC Judge James Boasberg [SEE HERE]

There is little doubt the FISA-702(16)(17) database system was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition.

Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place; and keep in mind these searches were all ruled to be unlawful. Searches for repeated persons over a period time that were not authorized.

When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principle participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.

All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.

Everything after March 9th, 2016, had a dual purpose: (1) done to cover up the weaponization of the FISA database. [Explained Here] Spygate, Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier, and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying. Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; he was FBI Director when this began. And (2) they needed to keep the surveillance going.

The beginning decision to use FISA(702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.

Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:

The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)

Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS. All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.

The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS, it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.

Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting to gather a large opposition research database operation inside a functioning organization large enough to have some good people that might blow the whistle.

The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus and began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If our hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:

How this all comes together in 2019/2020

Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 just to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign, and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.

However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.

That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.

The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains three insurance policy purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing surveillance operation (protect Obama); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton); and (3) continue the operation with a special counsel (protect both).

An insurance policy would be needed. The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.

The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion-GPS gave them that justification and evidence for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier.

Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the FBI would not have a tool that Mueller needed to continue the investigation of President Trump. In essence by renewing the FISA application, despite them knowing the underlying dossier was junk, the FBI was keeping the surveillance gateway open for Team Mueller to exploit later on.

The bottom line is this….  The NSA database has been exploited to: (1) gain opposition research on political entities; AND (2) the NSA database is being exploited to retrieve information useful for financial gains (insider information).  The contractors inside the network are in the business of selling information which they obtain from their access.

There are trillions at stake….

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249 Responses to Oblique but BIG Release – OIG Horowitz Outlines Notification of FBI for Contractor Database Abuse…

  1. Merkin Muffley says:

    And let me guess: this NSA Database contains every phone call made in the United States, both foreign and domestic.

    Liked by 10 people

    • todayistheday99 says:

      Every phone call including voice and video data, every text message, every email, credit card or bank transaction, stock trade, Facebook like, Linkedin invite

      What I’m not certain but is probably: Your lifetime web browser history

      I don’t see how the NSA could capture the contents of stuff that doesn’t ever get on the internet, like pictures on your phone you don’t upload. Can they have enough storage space to have the content of everything on every hard drive that ever existed. Every movie you ever watched on line. Every event of every game you ever played on line. There must limitations.

      That’s just personally data. Business data is a whole other topic.

      William Binney suggested transferring large amounts of “home made encrypted” data between computers (ping pong) to waste their efforts.

      Liked by 5 people

      • WhiteBoard says:

        your questions are answered with understanding one ACT.

        How did Hillary’s emails get onto Anthony Weiner’s laptop.


        1) Public one that creates the appearance of your being in control

        2) an always on backdoor sync used to profit on data used on their property (not your 4th amendment privacy)

        its a work around that perverted the 4th amendment via GUESS WHAT, Yep, another GD judge.

        Liked by 4 people

    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      Uhhhh……yeah; and every e-mail, text message, IM, tweet, Skype video chat — literally EVERY electronic communication made between two or more persons.

      Scary, huh?

      Liked by 5 people

      • bertdilbert says:

        Except ham radio…

        Liked by 6 people

        • old deplorable owl says:

          Bert, I wouldn’t bet on that – I was part of a big hoo-rah nearly 60 years ago involving FCC listening in on military radio communications.
          Funny story, but too long to tell here.

          Liked by 2 people

        • 1nikao says:

          I don’t remember where, but I remembered reading that there was probably some communication within these groups via gaming systems, i.e. xbox, playstation.
          Undoubtedly, the misnamed intelligence agencies know how to hide their criminality very well.


    • doyouseemyvision says:

      Remember Obama tapped into Merkel and the Pope’s phones. Those are the foreign heads of state we KNOW of

      Liked by 8 people

  2. ReglarMerican says:

    Remember the movie “Code Talkers” about the members of the Navajo Nation (and others, such as Choctaw Tribe) who served in the Army & Navy intel groups in WWII, speaking their native language to transmit coded messages?
    Reading these releases from OIG and DOJ, etc., makes me feel like I’m trying to decipher a foreign language on the fly.
    What’s worse, it seems every message means, “crooked people broke laws, cheated PDJT, cheated America, but nobody ever goes to jail”
    Please arrest these crooks, AG Barr. Gotta put a stop to the criminality.

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  3. Linus in W.PA. says:

    I still have faith in Barr.

    We’re a tribal race of living creatures, and we almost always take sides.

    I think Barr is on Trump’s side.

    Now, if life, there are those who take on a ‘fake’ role, by design or plan. They play a ‘role’ and for the ones who play their role well, no one ever knows until it’s over. Point is, most people don’t like to play that ‘fake’ role.

    So, for Barr to say most of what he says publicly and not mean for it to be so, he’s got to be acting at a super high level, AND, he had to be OK with, in time, being proven to have been full of feces, his reputation be damned.

    I just don’t see that. I just don’t feel that.

    Now, we all know what the ‘truth’ is up against. And we continue to be astounded at the depths these scum will sink to in order to protect their cheese. So, compound that on top of being on the other team, and wielding great power to rain Hell down. Barr has to be a target, if he’s real.

    I just can’t see someone saying to him, ‘come on, Bill!! You’ve got to come back in, put your ass on the line, and save the institutions!!!!’

    Liked by 3 people

    • Janus says:

      Barr is not on Trump’s side–he’s on the side of the “institution”. Unfortunately, the institution (Swamp) has grossly misbehaved and Barr has agreed to join Trump’s administration in order to correct their misbehavior. To the degree that it appears Barr is on Trump’s side is either a detriment (the Swamp’s POV), or an asset (the deplorables gullible enough to believe Barr is with them).

      Barr is a double agent–nothing more.

      Liked by 3 people

      • YogicCowboy says:

        Thank you for one of the more succinct analyses of the role of Bill Barr in this. The man is an Institutionalist (i.e., a kind of statist), not a Constitutionalist, but he is one who disagrees with how much the Deep State has exposed itself. He wants things done more orderly and more discreetly – in part to lull the electorate back to sleep.

        I find it profoundly strange that so many conservatives can now distrust the CIA, yet trust a man who was recruited by the CIA out of high school, one who was made A.G. by ex-CIA Bush 41, one who was an agent in the Mena and Iran-Contra affairs, and one who took part in the whitewash of Ruby Ridge, even to the extent of defending pro bono the Federal assassin, Lon Horiuchi, of an American citizen, Vicki Weaver. The Constitutional rights of an unarmed woman who stood on her own porch with her daughter, not a rifle, in her arms meant nothing to Bill Barr. (As I recall, Horiuchi was thus able to take part at Waco – and we all know how well that went.)

        Barr, as A.G. a second time, has openly advocated – last Autumn – for blanket access to all electronic back-doors in the private sector. That is not the stance of a bona fide Constitutionalist.

        People will tell one who they are; one just has to listen.

        I agree with what others have said elsewhere: Barr was a brokered compromise at/after the funeral of Bush 41: Donald Trump got an end to the Mueller witch hunt; the Deep State and UniParty got a human firewall who would limit the damage done to their coalition. No one not approved by that coalition would have been confirmed by a Senate controlled by Mitch McConnell. Any authentic fear ofBarr is, generally, because he thinks they went too far, and, specifically, because they fear being one of the fall guys.

        We do not have a two-tiered justice system; we have a multi-tiered system, and the second- and third-tier players are the worried ones, the ones who may be sacrificed for the first-tier perpetrators: They all know how the game is played.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        Janus, I see and understand your point of view and opinion.

        I may be a cock-eyed optimist, but I just don’t see it that way.

        What has been happening is so egregious that it has to be stopped. It’s so bad, that I just don’t see ‘protecting an institution’ as a valid argument to not burn it all down.

        For both our sake, I hope I’m right and you’re wrong.

        Liked by 1 person

      • mimelmoco says:

        Agreed Barr is a swamp creature and has been bought.

        How AT&T / CNN bought the RECUSAL of Bill Barr

        Big AT&T has been cheating to win BILLION dollar Federal Government Contracts. In defiance of the NDAA of 2012, AT&T has been hiring Government Agency CIO’s, AGs and IGs to influence the awarding of BILLION dollar Government Contracts. The NDAA of 2012 makes this a felony, but if you hire the AGs and IGs… who is going to investigate and prosecute?

        William Barr, Former AG of USA, was retained by AT&T through Kirkland & Ellis to promote and represent AT&T in its successful appeals fight to win Time Warner CNN. That MILLION $$$ retainer means that current AG William Barr is RECUSED from all things AT&T and CNN.

        Coincidentally, about 6 month after William Barr became Attorney General for the 2nd time, AT&T was awarded the $1 Billion Department of Justice Telecommunications contract.

        Liked by 1 person

  4. T2020 says:

    I HATE these euphemisms: “mistakes”; “concerns”;”corrections”, etc. We are not talking about 6 yr olds who had a fist fight on the playground. We’re talking about grown men. Men who have been on taxpayer payrolls, some for decades. Men who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, which is the law of the land. Men who are supposed to be “apolitical”. They committed crimes. Serious crimes against innocent American citizens and against the Constitution. They should be investigated as criminals. They are worse than a disgrace. They are disgusting, vile individuals with no conscience. “Human scum”.

    Liked by 14 people

  5. rpcoastie says:

    IG Horowitz is definitely a team player, unfortunately, it’s not for President Trump’s team! My suggested batting order for sacking on November 3rd is as follows:
    1. FBI Director Wray
    2. Head of the CDC
    3. Head of the NIH
    4. Gina Haspel
    5. Dr. Fauci
    6. DOD Sec Esper
    7. Joint Chiefs of Staff
    8. IG Michael Horowitz

    In the Bull Pen warming up:
    AG Bill Barr
    US Attorney Durham

    Liked by 12 people

  6. CNN_sucks says:

    Don’t believe whatever gasbag is saying. He has no intention arresting or indicting these criminals. Part of his tribes.
    The irony Sullivan became outwitting idiot revealing the malfeasance through Barnett’s testimony.

    Liked by 5 people

  7. WhiteBoard says:

    Page 44 of the FISC 2019 report.

    it says the FBI told the FISC to go FCK THEMSELVES

    read for yourself.


    Liked by 3 people

    • WhiteBoard says:


      admiral rogers STOPS 702 – HE DOESNT DELETE THE ARCHIVES!!!!!!!!!

      being SNOOOOOPED THROUGHHHHHHHH non stop, allllll during the Weismann REIGN…

      Liked by 6 people

      • OpenMind says:

        Just clarifying, the two hop Title I warrant against Carter Page gave the SC the very same access the contractors would have had, even if the FBI had cut off contractor access. That’s why the CP FISC warrant application was critical; each time it was renewed, it brought forward all the monitoring.

        Liked by 1 person

  8. Right to reply says:

    I still believe Rogers stopped it as his own CYA, or he would have stopped it prior. Its been going on for years. Why not stop it in 2012?

    Liked by 3 people

    • WhiteBoard says:

      Compliance Report 93 is what Found this out. (if u are seeing light at the end of a tunnel/8YearReign you take your best shot)

      that compliance officer did the review and report, in what is referenced throughout the CollyerReport2017 and Compliance Report 93

      Liked by 4 people

    • Alex1689 says:

      He stopped it at a critical time when it would actually matter – right as the Republican nominee was firmed up. That gave the Trump Campaign at least some ability to operate without the other side constantly reading its playbook. Don’t discount the impact of making the Obama team have to scramble off their usual procedures. That caused them to make mistakes and get sloppy.

      Stop it in 2012? Just to have Obama fire you and then maybe frame you for good measure? No, Rogers was smart and he bided his time. Good for him and Flynn. A lot smaller team, but a lot smarter.

      Liked by 1 person

  9. Justin Green says:

    Please, someone tell me, at this point, why secession is a less logical choice than continuing to vote for this evil? I’m open to suggestion, and full disclosure – I will be voting Trump.

    After Trump, I will support secession. We’re clearly DONE here. DONE. If you have trouble understanding what that means, it means I’m no longer going to participate in this immoral, evil circus clown show. We’d do just fine, or better, without having to consider liberals as countrymen.

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  10. Another Ian says:

    Might not fit directly here but FYI

    “Remember the Strzok-Page “Insurance Policy” Exchange – FBI Special Agent Barnett Exposes the Hole Card”


    Via Small Dead Animals

    Liked by 3 people

  11. freebop says:

    All of this was outlined in the banned ShadowGate documentary.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. freebop says:

    All of this was outlined in the banned ShadowGate documentary.


  13. Ocelot says:

    FBI Director Christopher Wray told the Senate last week, “We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election,” troubling examples have arisen in recent months.

    Director Wray is possibly the Greatest Obstructionist in American history given his Bureau was a key corrupt player in the worst political scandal in American history. But he seems to believe his role as Director is not to fix but to obstruct and hide the truth even if it’s exculpatory evidence that should be released in an ongoing court case.

    The NY Post wrote:

    “FBI Director Christopher Wray told the Senate last week, “We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election,” troubling examples have arisen in recent months.” He must wear blinders and earplugs when he’s at FBI HQ’s. The unsolicited ballot system was ripe for fraud and the excellent Project Veritas investigation was like picking cherries from low hanging branches.

    The FBI could have conducted their own major investigation that would have greatly aided the country and its embattled voting system. But their leader was already convinced there was nothing to see here.

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  14. RickInHouston says:

    HOPEFULLY, President Trump’s first day of his second term looks like Day One of Obozo’s first term.

    He fires everyone and anyone with even a whiff of Obozo’s scent on them.


  15. YellowLab says:

    With your well documented list of corruption, is it possible for you to file some complaints with the DOJ on some of the known bad actors? I realize that Andrew Weissmann Is no longer at the DOJ. He really should be disbarred, at a minimum. Surely there are some known bad apples that are still at the DOJ. Does the complaint HAVE to come from someone WITHIN the DOJ?


    • OpenMind says:

      What you’re asking about is called citizen standing. It is not allowed by the federal courts. The Carter Page FISC was intended to make everything gathered illegally against every single person in POTUS circle completely permissible. I don’t know that stands up in the end. Thus, the universe of plaintiffs may end up being everyone in POTUS’s circle. More intriguing may be others who ran in 2016 before the Page FISC warrant was issued. I could see Rand Paul filing suit were he to leave office.


      • YellowLab says:

        Is there any way to hold these bad apples accountable? Why can’t Barr get rid of them? Yes, there would be much squealing from MSM, Democrats, Treasury Union (whatever Union to which DOJ employees reside), Deep State writ large. Like cleaning out the puss from a bad infection. Considerable pain in the short term but it’s the best way to start the healing process.


  16. hazelnut22 says:

    If getting Barrett confirmed wasn’t so important, I would be asking why wait until after the election to fire Wray?


  17. islandpalmtrees says:

    It’s a wonder after all this time, someone has not called the responsible NSA Database security team in for the system that allowed these queries to run, in the first place. Think of all the interesting questions they could have been answered. I am not talking about a person in upper management reading an audit log.


    • deeperinfo says:


      I can’t understand how they would not be involved.

      Direct responsibility for security clearances, including contractors.

      Our Nation’s Gatekeepers

      If not, why not?

      Am I the only one who sees this?
      Can somebody please ask President Trump???

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        Your right of course. Within hours if not minutes they should have had the User ID’s of all of those in violation to include their locations.

        Head of NSA security should be in jail by now. But, then again what is a little national security these days.

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      • deeperinfo says:

        For what it worth, I just sent an email to dsca.mil press office to ask them if they are investigating.

        I expect to hear back from them tomorrow.

        Notice I didn’t say Which tomorrow… (learned English @ Bill Clinton’s knee)


  18. Paul Gallant says:




  19. Elric VIII says:

    I used to work for the U.S. Postal Service. My cousin still works for them. She says that every single piece of mail is sent through a machine that photographs both sides, and the photos are entered into a database. She doesn’t know if the contents are scanned or not. It isn’t just electronic communications that are being monitored and recorded, they know when you mail in your utility bills.


  20. Retired IG says:

    I’m not the smartest in the room here, but I’ve seen stuff that turned my hair white long before its due date. DARPA’s R&D budget. My gawd. After 9/11 is when all of this spying started with Poindexter’s Total Information Awareness. Remember their logo? The eye at the top of the pyramid on the one dollar bill? Might as well be the Eye of Sauron.
    This program was supposedly shut down. Oh sure! One of the females on the project funded by taxpayer dollars went on to work for Facebook at the very top. I guess she found the Data clone from Star Trek named Zuckerberg in his dorm room playing with his “Lego’s” for lack of a better word. And now this pale faced “BORG” with no expression or lines on his face – I tell you – Data from Star Trek – has every one believing he owns us all. Might as well. His organization and others can’t get enough data. Now their computers are deciding what we can and cannot say.
    Trillions of taxpayer dollars are being spent on facilities in Utah and Maryland to just collect data. I know one who works in one of these facilities and the mind set is all Americans are terrorists and they must monitor our every thought, word, and deed. I hope I am driving them forking NUTS. No Facebook, No Twitter. No nothing. I am trying my best to be invisible. But I know I am not. I just hope I am REALLY BORING.
    The Obummer’s, Brennan, etc. ad naseum just enjoyed the hell out the new toy and gift the Bush/Cheney administration created. They just turned it so much darker using it against President Trump, General Flynn, so many others. DARKER.
    Wonder how Nellie Orr is doing these days? I guess she got it when she turned to using a ham radio instead of the Internet. Nellie to base, Nellie, to base! Are you in prison? Wherefore art thou Nellie? And where’s Bruce?
    Thank the Lord for Admiral Roger’s, Sidney Powell, Michael Horowitz, Devin Nunes, Sundance, Pres. Trump etc. in no order of importance. I am so grateful that you are in my life! .God bless you each and every one. We will defeat the BORG’s! I will be drinking Tito’s vodka with a friend every time Biden flubs up in the debate on Tuesday. It’s just a tradition.


  21. dow40kby2024 says:

    Well said once again Sundance. You have been great and you continue to bring clarity to these complex issues. AG Bill Barr……WE KNOW!


  22. rld rld says:

    In a PERFECT World the Truly Guilty would be “neutralized”,as I was taught to say at the Embassy.


  23. Tom says:

    The inability to convene, in the absence of secure videoconferencing being made available, explains why NY, DC, and other Democrat jurisdictions are imposing an insane level of “lockdown” to prevent these investigations from being completed before the election.


  24. Tom says:

    I think you are missing the import of the Seth Rich murder in early July, 2016, and the absconding of the Pakistani operatives (with incongruously frenetic support of the DNC and Obama admin) in late July, 2016. Remember that there is no statute of limitation on murder, conspiracy to commit murder, or obstruction of justice in the prosecution for murder. Hence a lot of high-level people – a LOT of people – are vulnerable to prosecution and serious prison time if the Seth Rich murder is ever solved.


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