Former ODNI Ric Grenell Says Additional Intelligence Agencies are Intentionally Withholding Evidence of Wrongdoing…

Former Acting DNI Richard “Ric” Grenell fires a warning shot across the bow of those within the intelligence community who are refusing to release documents.  During an interview with Liz Mac, Grenell shared:

“I’m getting really impatient with those individual agencies that know exactly what I’m talking about, that know exactly what documents they need to release… they’re playing games.”

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256 Responses to Former ODNI Ric Grenell Says Additional Intelligence Agencies are Intentionally Withholding Evidence of Wrongdoing…

  1. Perot Conservative says:

    Then why didn’t he release them when he was the head honcho?

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    • Who knows? I sure don’t; do you Perot?

      Perhaps he couldn’t at that point in time; it’s complicated business.

      I am not in a position to second-guess Ric Grenell, are you or anyone else?

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        retest the higher loyalty after you inform them YOU WILL LOSE SOON.

        by seeing the higher loyalty continue (the not turning docs over) shows POTUS that the handlers invovled ARE BIGGER AND MORE OUTSIDE THIS COUNTRY than initially thought.

        a Screw up versus a Treason.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        I can only guess.

        Let’s say on a 1 to 10 scale, Dan Coats was a negative -12.

        So Grenell comes along and gives us a 5 or an 8, but it looks like a 10+ due to his predecessor. Eh?

        But now he’s telling us there is lots more out there… that wouldn’t affect pending indictments or litigation?

        Then why didn’t he release them? Meeting overload? It’s been 4 years…

        P.S. I love Grenell.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Actually, he addressed this, in a previous appearance. I can’t give exact quote, or link, but I clearly remember him saying there were lots of “threads” he saw, but wasn’t,able to fully unravel, in the limited time he was there.

          The Govt doesn’t do ANYTHING, without having all sorts of regulation it has,to follow, and it doesn’t do anything FAST,…well except in the new, limited Trump time.

          I am sure declassifying is a lot more than just the ODNI saying “make it so”.

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          • Cowboy79 says:

            I spent 30+ yrs working for DOD, DoS, DHS.
            ANY document is “classified” at some level, at the behest of the Originator or the Agency of the Originator. ONLY the “originator or originating agency” can rescind classification, or, a competent court of Law.
            Declassifying ANYTHING opens up a Pandora’s Box. Like it or not.
            The Declassifier has to know Why the thing was Classified, the Circumstances of Classification, The Precedent and Antecedent impacts of Declassification, the Legal implications of Declassification, the Cross Agency impacts upon collateral intelligence, security, Military, Economic, and Legislative impacts.
            This is more complex than most people imagine.
            Let’s say Congress wants Clarity on why the DoD ordered 2 tons of Hydrazine that was purchased via “Classified off book” black ops. Somebody demands “open investigations” and “declassification”. Well, Maybe it had something to do with missiles, or maybe torpedoes, or maybe Bunker Busters, or maybe Hypersonic Weapons. Or maybe it was a mistake in an order using the Supply System. Whatever. Declassifying that purchase order might impact a lot of things that Nobody was meant to see, or maybe it didn’t matter at all. Blanket Declassification is NOT an answer to Anything. Declassification is a serious business and does not need to be politicized. Yes, there is a process and it needs to be followed, and stupid responses need to get busted, and grand standers need to get clipped. But it is over simplistic and ignorant to demand that “everything” gets declassified.
            On the other hand, Nobody wants to Classify ANYTHING that cannot be defended above “Confidential” unless it IS because they might wind up in Court or Courts Martial, and they know that. You can’t Un Ring the Bell. And you shouldn’t. But, Authorized Bodies Should hold the Classifiers Responsible for What they Classified and Why, not the general public, and not “reporters”. This is a complicated business, and for mostly good reasons.

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            • MikeSS says:

              The President has ultimate classification authority over all OCAs.

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              • GB Bari says:

                He can order a document declassified, but he cannot actually do it himself, unilaterally.
                It still has to go through a serial process of review and sign off.
                Sundance explained that process many moons ago.

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            • borwarrior says:

              Yeh buuuuuut,

              What if they are classifying these documents to cover schitt up?

              Not to protect sources and methods but to prevent sunlight? Isn’t over-classification against the law?

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              • Cowboy79 says:

                Overclassification is handled by disciplinary action the 1st time it happens. After that, your career is over. Covering for any crime or act against “the efficiency of the service” is grounds for Courts Martial, Prosecution, and Termination. There is no “but”. There is only Law and UCMJ. There are, however, bad people.

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            • TonyEuropa says:

              The problem is that much of the documents in question were classified in order to cover up malfeasance. A classic CYA move.

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              • Cowboy79 says:

                And that is why Investigations happen. To be effective, Investigations result in airtight charges, proof at trial, and thin smiles at sentencing.
                Malfeasance is a subjective, not legal objective, term. Abuse of Power, Criminal Negligence, sedition, Treason, RICO, etc, are provable objective matters of Law. Malfeasance is a subjective interpretation of responsibility unless there are provable violations of Law or Regulation. IOW, we all know what malfeasance smells like, looks like and feels like. But that don’t mean sh!t if it can’t be tied to a law or regulation that was broken. I want some of these B@sTurds playing “soap on a rope” as much as you do. But I want it done so they can never escape that reality by any excuse.

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                • yankee55 says:

                  You sound like Nero while Rome burns. Comical you expect others to wait for justice from what everyone can see is an thoroughly corrupt system

                  Call me when you can prove any of it is being done outside of the lowest charge, to the lowest lackey.

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                • WhiteBoard says:

                  You supported your fisa with a news article you created through a leak.

                  With that you illegally obtained, exported, and distributed this data of 16000 people.

                  Thos people were harmed from that action from career loss to death

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                • borwarrior says:

                  Thanks Cowboy, very informative. You made me think and at 11:25 that is hard to do.

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            • Dutchman says:

              Thanks for the clarification. I knew this, but couldn’t express it with the authority of experience, as you so eloquently have!

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            • leavemygunsalone says:

              That gave me a headache.

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            • rashomon says:

              Thank you for joining the conversation, Cowboy. Your inside experiences help define the debate and explore the issues more succinctly. Apparently, our country has been operating under a CYA system for far too long.

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              • Cowboy79 says:

                The “Leadership” is doing CYA. The rank/file people are following procedures. It is the Leadership that needs a Draino enema. The SC, Senior FBI, Senior NSA, ODNI, knew exactly what they were doing. The grunts punching the keys were following orders they had no right to refuse because they were compartmentalized. No, it isn’t the Nazi Defense of “just following orders”. It is the corrupt authority of corrupt people corrupting a lawful activity. Put the Leadership in Prison.

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                • And I would add the FISC court. They could disbar and ban any person that lied to them. They deliberately slow walked the required disclosures after the Mueller report was published. The court if it had integrity would also would have disciplined Contreras who approved the first warrant. Roberts knew this immediately as he had him replaced soon after the warrant was approved.

                  The Courts are also culpable. I am a National Security advocate but I have concluded that the FISA process too broken to continue.

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            • joebkonobi says:

              Maybe so. But we now have proof of FBI classifications that have nothing to do with “sources or methods” but everything to do with hiding info go protect themselves from information the public has a right to know.

              I understand there needs to be classification but when it is used for nefarious purposes as opposed to national security then there has to be a way to call B.S. This abusive classification of info that has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with hiding crimes from we the people is how governments implode. A system where anyone can classify anything and keep it from we the people is a system that can be controlled by infiltrators.

              The problem is when those “authorized bodies” are compromised. Maybe that is why the POTUS has complete declass authority. I hope we find out someday why that authority has not been used, as all the stuff coming out now could have come out years ago. Anyone that thinks that “classification” ha snot helped coverup the biggest political scandal in our Republic’s history is fooling themselves. Time for accountability. Should not take 3 !/2 years to declassify crimes against the American people. The classification system is broke and needs fixing.

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              • Cowboy79 says:

                Abuse of classification authority to hide unlawful acts is a crime, punishable by UCMJ for Military and USC for civilians. The issue is proving it. That is why AG/DOJ/etc need to be very cautious in what they release publicly until the traps are sprung. Wish it were different. But it isn’t. If the prosecutors make a legal error, the rat bastard guilty as sin perp walks.

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            • yankee55 says:

              Comical, and concurrently vile, of you to posit a declassification as some type of “Pandoras Box” while ignoring the context of seditious treason.

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            • gunrunner03 says:

              “On the other hand, Nobody wants to Classify ANYTHING that cannot be defended above “Confidential” unless it IS because they might wind up in Court or Courts Martial, and they know that.” I beg to differ. They aren’t worried about a damn thing happening to them.

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            • As a Man Thinkth says:

              the process of de classification sounds as if it were designed by Lawfare…the perfect maze inwhich to hide ones secrets…and internal bells and whistles to alert when someone is digging too deep…almost like an insurance policy…

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            • MelH says:

              MANY thanks for that explanation Cowboy! It answers my questions about why there is such a slow dribble of important classified information and begs the question of why those involved don’t make classified stuff disappear soonest.

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          They were doing a Mahatma Gandhi to him. Noncooperation. That’s why Radcliffe was confirmed in a hurry. Because he was putting to the screws to the non-cooperators.

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        • huecowacko says:

          He didn’t mention his successor by name, John Ratcliffe; but, by his comments, I inferred he is disappointed Ratcliffe hasn’t released more documents/transcripts by now.

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      • William the Comptroller says:

        Where is ODNI John Ratliffe? Still filling out employee forms and getting checked on computer passwords and shopping for trendy lanyards for his photo ID badge?? Get the lead outta your pants!!!

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        • JBS says:

          Seems like it.

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        • I disagree. I believe that he is running information through Durham before releasing. Also there is a process that has to be following. He declassified and allowed release of Jensen’s latest findings

          The declassified congressional testimonies that he forced Schiff to release were finished when he got the interim position. He just used his authority to pressure Schiff. Note the Atkinson testimony is still classified because it wasn’t part of the original Russia interference testimonies. Is it going through the process of declassification. Don’t know.

          Is the pace slow? Yes and frustrating. But let us assume that Radcliffe is working the process behind the scenes. He isn’t going to do flashy actions to draw attention to himself.

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        • An addendum to my original comment. One thing that Grenell did that I found powerful was releasing the unmasking requests of Michael Flynn. I wish that effort would have been continued by Ratcliffe to all the unmasking requests. I posted before that the targets of the unmasking requests should be shown the information that was pulled and if known given too. Then give the target the unclassified information to do with what they will.

          You know that the Republicans would have released that information. It would have made for a glorious civil rights suit with Class Action and RICO implications.

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    • noswamp says:

      Time was not ripe? His replacement btw seems to operating at warp, NO, stagecoach speed.

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    • lackawaxen123 says:

      for a reason that is obviously beyond your knowledge … enough with the second guessing nonsense … you and I aren’t on the front lines … how about we don’t snipe at the folks that are ? maybe … just once …

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    • starspangledred says:

      It’s likely that the docs are classified (hidden from view) to the point that by releasing them he would have broken the law. To release the docs will require a declassification that would have to be an action by the equity holders (or their superiors). That’s what he is saying to those equity holders, declassify and release. They won’t do that unless there is a reason that assists their cause. Someone with authority and above their pay grade will have to initiate that. Transparency is not their game, deceit is.

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    • Sammy says:

      Maybe because he get the approval for the heads that he knows overview but not each document, if that easy President Trump release them.

      Why didn’t Barr just overrule every head and release everything.

      Obviously it’s balance that get the heads some these like CIA and NSA on board to approve extracting the documents each to DNI to approve release.

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    • hazelnut22 says:

      Thank you, Abigail, for calling out Perot. Enough of the self righteous criticism, already.

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Perot, do not kick at the guy who released more than any one else.

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  2. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    “I’m getting really impatient with those individual agencies that know exactly what I’m talking about, that know exactly what documents they need to release…”

    I suspect that after the election, our VSGPDJT is going to do something about that problem.

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  3. Lulu says:

    If you are CIA, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are NSA, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are DOS, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are DOJ, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are FBI, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are IRS, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are EPA, you are a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are a flag officer, you are probably a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are a federal bureaucrat, at best you are an overpaid, underworked leech on the productive and possibly a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.
    If you are in Congress, you are most likely a bought and paid for hack with a significant chance of being a scumbag and an enemy of the American people.

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  4. T2020 says:

    I saw this video earlier, which angered me because, as much as I admire and respect Mr. Grenell, he often uses the “mistakes” euphemism to describe what many coup plotters did. “Mistakes” by definition impliesUNINTENTIONAL. What transpired over the last 4+ years was ABSOLUTELY INTENTIONAL and we have proof.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      i think he is using mistake, in the context of :

      you were lured to commit treason, and made that mistake..

      its the same language you use when you bring a person back to Team USA after they have been feeding information to another country…

      ….. you start your convo with them by saying ” i know you made a mistake”…. and hten you get into fixing it..

      you want the traitor to feel there is redemption – or otherwise they may feel they have no hope but to SELL THAT EXPORTED DATA to IRAN OR CHINA for safe haven.

      mistake mistake mistake mistake.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        FYI i was addressing if if he did say mistake – cause Grennel is one of the few guys i trust 100%.

        I commented quickly to help the positive light back on Ric. See my comment below for an update on what Ric just said on Hannity ( he specified what type of docs )

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      • T2020 says:

        I have no idea what goes into bringing someone back to “Team USA”. But ask Agent Barnett if these guys make “mistakes”. These guys are not idiots. They know exactly what they’re doing and made CHOICES, CHOICES, CHOICES. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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      • Islam_Is Islam says:

        @WhiteBoard: REDEMPTION!!!! It’s like William Wallace in Braveheart yelling, “Freedom!!!” Redemption is a reality BUT recognizing error (mistake) and then having repentance and contrition and asking for forgiveness are necessary precursors to redemption. Nowadays it seems that people seldom admit having erred–too much moral relativism, maybe?

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    • Sammy says:

      What a liar you are, not once does the word ‘mistake” come out of his mouth…I assume you think people wouldn’t watch the video and just read the comments.

      Explicitly says hat they’re playing games hiding documents and protecting their own.

      That we to need to keep a outsider because of how they weaponizing it is how governments fall.

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      • T2020 says:

        I didn’t say this video. He has used it in previous interviews/ videos discussing those involved in the Mueller cover-up. I am not lying. But thanks for your nasty response.

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    • Baby Hurley says:

      I agree…maybe he actually is outraged but trying to be polite enough to make it home alive tonight. Or is he just another ex-politician ingratiating himself with the MSM to make a buck. Until something happens, we’ll never really know.

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    • I did not hear Ric Grenell say “mistake” during this interview. Maybe he started the ball rolling when he was in as Acting Director of ODNI and was assured by his successor that all of the information would be released. I for one am happy that he did start the ball rolling, and I for one, believe all of it will come out. The documents released recently are extremely damning for certain players, and I am certain that once PDJT wins reelection, he will put the hammer down. WRAY is toast. Looking forward to the show!!

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      • T2020 says:

        I left out a clarifying sentence then, because since he left the WH position, he is using euphemisms moreso than usual. Perhaps to be nicer. I don’t know. I said he often uses “mistakes”. To Clarify: Not in this video, but previous interview(s). In this interview, He uses other phrases like “warning signs”, “fix this problem”. Never calling it crimes against the president or crimes against the American people. I expected him to say what it is because he has seen the unredacted versions.

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  5. olddog35 says:

    Sorry Gina, invoking your rights against self incrimination won’t work in this instance.

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    • Mike in a Truck says:

      Many of these “Agencies” were created by non elected appointed bureaucrats or past presidents. President Trump can abolish them.The key to winning against them is not playing thire game. The game is rigged and they always win. Defund and and abolish.Game over.

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  6. Bogeyfree says:

    Last time I looked Barr was in charge of declassifying anything and everything.

    So what does that say about Mr. One System of Justice?

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  7. shotgun28 says:

    Both of those Intelligence Agency goons pictured above look like they each have a mess in their depends….just sayin

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  8. freepetta says:

    We have all lost our patience long ago Ric. Let’s getter done!

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  9. bulwarker says:

    This is all getting so tiresome.

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  10. Sharon says:

    Those agencies are not playing games.

    They are deadly serious.

    Apparently there is no one in a position of authority who is willing and able to stop them, call them to account, and punish them.

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  11. laeagle says:

    We all need to channel our rage at these developments into redoubling our efforts to re-elect the President!

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    • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

      And help elect some Congress Critters who will help!

      Made my list of 23 based on their performance during the Mueller & Impeachment Hearings, added a few of the new bright new ones, contributed what I could.

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      • steph_gray says:

        Me too. Spent Sunday evening wielding the credit card again, so that the contribs would show in Q3. My small amounts have now reached 17 Senate and House R candidates. Almost all have been directly endorsed by VSGPDJT according to ballotpedia, but I don’t think their list of endorsements is quite complete. I still would like to add a few more…

        The larger amount of course went to VSGPDJT himself, directly.

        All directly through each candidate’s web site.

        I highly recommend this delightful exercise to anyone here who could afford some small amounts and who is frustrated by the daily grind of the fight we are in. I can only imagine the difference treepers could make this way.

        All politics may be local, but these days every election is also national.

        (Once again I must plug my local hero here in blueMA, John Paul Moran who is running against Seth Moulton.)

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        • jebg46 says:

          New Hampshire here, District 1 = Trump endorsed: Representative: Mowers, Senate: Messner.

          Dump Papas, Kuster, Hassan and Sheehan, make NH all Red again with Republican Governor Sununu

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  12. Zera says:

    But here’s the problem Ric.
    The only agency that can prosecute the perps contains the perps….the DoJ.

    All together now…”the DoJ declines to prosecute”.
    Insurance policy cashed.

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    • borwarrior says:

      Right, we are expecting the DOJ to prosecute the DOJ.
      What were we thinking?
      That they would actually follow through on their oath and do their JOBS?
      Pass the beer nuts, this stuff is becoming overly tedious at this point.
      Barr NEEDS TO GO if no indictments right after the election. Their is really zero excuse at that point. No election to “influence.”

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      • MelH says:

        We’ve ALWAYS known the DOJ was charged with the job of prosecuting the DOJ. When R.Rosenstein decided to give the President all the classified documents, along with the right to declassify them, we knew, and that was 2-3 years ago. VERY Frustrating!

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  13. dasantacroce says:

    We’re on Trump time. His show. His plan. I’ll stick with him. Grinnell is public pressure-on the bad guys.

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  14. Carrie says:

    Wait, is he threatening Wray or is he getting impatient with Ratcliffe at the DNI???

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  15. canoehustler says:

    AWOL Ratliff

    TikTok’s true meaning is run out the clock.

    It’s a club and we ain’t in it, neither is PDJT.

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    • WSB says:

      Why did Ric Grenell really leave his post?

      He could have done a major doc dump and then left.

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      • Toolnut says:

        I vaguely remember an interview with Ric where he described the declassification process where he had to send it to either the originating agency or some other unit to redact methods and sources before he could release it and he wished he could have done more document dumps but ran out if time as the senate confirmed Ratcliffe. I want to say he said he filled in Ratcliffe but not sure.

        If I find the interview I’ll post the link.

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      • old deplorable owl says:

        I suspect he was really hurting – he’d had the medical issues, had done Yeoman’s work for PT, and IIRC, he vanished immediately after leaving.
        Plus, while I know it’s nearly impossible, try and think like our VSG does – some of that may have been left as bait for other things possibly not yet known……

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        • KT Prayer Warrior says:

          I believe he is still recovering from cancer treatments. Not sure of the timeline of treatment, but thought it was discovered while he was Amb to Germany.

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          • montanamel says:

            Crap’o la….. Didn’t know this medical issue/angle…
            My prayer’s go with him and his family… being a cancer person myself.

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          • Cowboy79 says:

            Grenell was diagnosed with non hodgkins lymphoma in 2013. He’s living on borrowed time and he knows it. Ric is not tolerant of excuses or fantasies, because Life is Very Real to him, now. Hope he goes into remission. Or something. Good guy. He’s seen the Reality. He isn’t flinching or complaining. Just doing the best he can.

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            • donna kovacevic says:

              I believe we all are living on borrowed time, just my thought. Praying for Ric Grenell. God Bless him. I truly admire and respect that man. Much love to Ric.

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          • jebg46 says:

            Grenell told President Trump he would only do it short term, 3 months. Not sure of the reason except he said he was exhausted and needed a break. If he was doing cancer treatments, no wonder he was exhausted.

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  16. starfcker says:

    We have to get back to a system where integrity and talent and ability rise to the top. This is an affirmative action government. People rose to the top because they checked some boxes, or were tools that are easily manipulated. The good thing is, even though there’s a lot of them, none of them seem to be very smart. Look at how almost inevitably they all left massive paper trails. Can you imagine if somebody really wanted to follow the money, how easy that would be? Term two might be a whole different story. Our President is like artificial intelligence. Completely old school. Never stops learning. Never forget who did what when given opportunity, never forgets who did what when under pressure, never forgets who did what when temptation got the better of them. He’s run through half of Washington so far in his administration. Little by little he keeps finding keepers. I think we may see shock and awe in November. Look at how the pace of what he has been doing has been increasing over the last year. I expect that pace to continue increasing rapidly. That’s just the way guys like that work.

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  17. Issy says:

    Carrie: I hope both.

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  18. Drogers says:

    Too simpatico to not be on Mr. President’s radar for another position in the administration.

    Probably after the election but can not be soon enough.

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  19. gsonFIT says:

    This man will not remain silent if the system does not disclose IC transgressions. It is possible the
    indictments don’t come, but between PDJT, Richard Grenell and few others there will be transparency

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  20. Justin Green says:

    Paging Barr…. cleanup on aisle nine.

    Oops, paging Barr… cleanup on aisles one, two, three, four, and five through eight.

    Oops, paging Barr… cleanup on aisles ten through twenty-four, and the outside veranda.

    Fix this crap, or we’re out.

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  21. jus wundrin says:

    Wray and haspel need to be unemployed. Im still holding out a thread of hope for Barr. Has Horowitz redeemed himself? Time will tell.

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  22. Do stop thinking about tomorrow says:

    At this point it is a waiting game to see if the President wins. If he does we can di ABC if not then go home till it our guys turn again.

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  23. lackawaxen123 says:

    Does anyone else come here for information ? Information from the articles and the comments ?
    I try too …

    but in the comments sections it sure seems like an awful lot of people come here to rend their clothes and wail about how angry/disappointed/etc/etc/etc they are (which is not information BTW)

    to vent in other words … and I’m sure it feels good …

    In fact, I’m venting now and it feels good and …. (this is the point)

    ITS A WASTE OF EVERYONE’s TIME mine included …

    This comment won’t help get President Trump re-elected

    This comment won’t get anyone indicted or arrested

    This is a Whiny Loser comment in other words …

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    • gary says:

      don’t be a loser.

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    • An American says:

      lackawaxen123, actually isn’t Grennell doing what a lot of commenters on this site are doing and you are taking offense at? He is ranting that the information, documents/records are not being released nor punishment for sedition is happening just like us. Thanks to Sundance we have been made aware of just about all the goings on with evidence provided and yet justice has not been served out.

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      • Joemama says:

        Definitely not.

        Grennell just very clearly took a shot across the bow of unnamed intelligence agencies, and probably certain individuals within those agencies. He made it clear that he will do what he can to get them to declassify that which they are slow walking.

        Elizabeth was kind of taken aback by his response at the end.

        Big difference than we mere serfs whining to each other.

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          Grenell did what cowboy keeps teaching the process about.

          He looked at the classified docs and saw they should not have been, mapped the crime, forwarded the list.

          Case set. Only thing left is the Mueller rescue, via barr believing he was biden’d

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    • mr.piddles says:

      I think we’re entitled to be angry, disgusted, and impatient to see corrupt actors — that we entrusted (not by choice, Bee-Tee-Double-You) with upholding The Constitution — be held to account for their transgressions against The Republic and its citizens. The transgressions are plain to see for anybody a.) with a functional brain, and b.) who is intellectually honest.

      Whether or not Trump gets re-elected… and irrespective or “indictments” or “no indictments”… the underlying cancer will not only survive, but will metastasize as ever-present and ever-accessible Technology enables. We are officially in 1984 Land… or pretty close to it. And we all know it. I say: be angry about it. Why not? “What… the Hell… do you have… to lose?”

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  24. WhiteBoard says:

    Sundance!

    Grennel just clarified what documents he was talking about (on Hannity)

    he said the documents were career FBI CIA people saying this Steele stuff is Russian Disinfo and we should not be pursuring this. the CIA top and FBI top classified (so it can be hid from the public) their MEMOs and pushed them aside.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      In this interview here, and paraphrasing:: “we need to have outsiders continue to push the buttons to get these agencies to release the documents”, made me think Amb. Grennell’s words here are a nod to Sundance, and for him to keep doing what he’s doing.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        meaning the DAMN holding the FIELD Agents back – via DIRECTORS is about to break if MORE SUNLIGHT COMES.

        Grennel is hinting their are MULTIPLE FIELD AGENTS that know this is BS and they documented their DISSENT in writing (Classifed by Boente, Wray, and Brennen, and Haspel to HIDE IT)

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    • Dutchman says:

      My problem with this is that it establishes/strengthens the justification defence, which is all bullshirt.

      “We were decieved, by those clever Russians, into believing that DJT was ‘compromised’ because they had videos of him having russian prostitutes pee on a bed, Obama had slept on.”

      So, what would you have us do, if we thought a POTUS candidate, and then POTUS was a Russian agent?

      The guy they are saying is the source, left Russia when he was like,…5 y.o.
      Exactly WHAT sources did they think he would have, in Russia?

      And, WHY would the ‘line officers’ following orders of higher ups who were deluded by Russian disinfo, be getting liability insurance?

      They are setting it up with layered defences, just like a criminal defence lawyer would do (I should know).

      The SOG defence (Some Other Guy)
      Firstly, the various defendants point fingers at each other, creating reasonable doubt; FBI blames CIA, etc.

      Second, the SOG combined with the
      “INCOMPETENT, not criminal” defence, often used in “white collar crime” defences very effectively.

      In this case “Hey, we got conned, suckered by Russian disinfo! Yeah, maybe stupid (incompetent) but not criminal!”

      And, as a reserve, the under the bus defence, used in the tea party/IRS case;
      “Oh, it was just a small group of ROGUE employees, acting on their own.

      Problem is, NONE of these defences will stand up to a serious challenge.

      But, NO ONE is challenging them, other than Sundance, and Graham, MSM and MANY in Govt are pushing these narratives,…HARD.

      Because they ALL create reasonable doubt in the electorate, exhonerate those obviously involved, protect from exposure those higher up, and the country “moves on”.

      But, this time it ain’t workin,…

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        It says they conspired with and facilitated Brookings disinfo ( they can pretend it’s Russian to do the defences you state), but grenell and Nunes is hinting it’s a dirty cop, not a duped one, there are no russians

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        This whole Russia Russia disinformation is pure govna, and you know who is slapping his knee hard and laughing his ass off…Putin. He has known and now sees the American people were deceived by their own government officials. I say Pravda to that, meaning Truth.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Actually, whether intentional or not, it DID have serious geopolitical effects.
          PDJT is trying to isolate CHINA, and Putin COULD have been valuable in that.
          So, their rediculous shenanigans had serious negative consequences for the country,.beyond the obvious domestic ones.

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  25. Sunshine says:

    If only there were some chief executive to whom these agencies were answerable. If only…. Bluntly, I am tired of the whining.

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  26. Sam says:

    Why is Gina chick loyal to Democrats they wanted try her for Treason for water boarding during Bush years. Thrashed her reputation in front of the country.

    If I remember they all attacked her in confirmation and she only got votes of Republicans, was that just a show.
    Trump went out way to help CIA officers in problems other countries, that Obama people let flounder.

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  27. OffCourseNation says:

    The so-called “Intelligence Community” is a plague on America. The Founding Fathers would consider it worse, far worse, than King George.

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  28. Remember Grenell’s illness which may have caused him to slow down or step down. I believe if the election is successful, Grenell will BE BACK albeit possibly in a capacity not harmful to his well being…..but extremely harmful to those who did PDJT and “justice” wrong.

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    • Cowboy79 says:

      June 2013, Richard Grenell was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma. He’s a 4 yr cancer survivor. He knows how precious Life is and how hollow everything else is. Death has a way of focusing a person’s attention. I’m pretty sure he is taking everything seriously.

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  29. All Too Much says:

    Acting FBI Director Grennell has a nice sound.
    Fire Wray tomorrow, appoint Grennell Acting, go on national television and explain exactly why.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Grennell was a TOOL, a DEVICE used to accomplish a specific objective, which he did,…two objectives, actually.

      ONE was to force McConnell to reverse coarse and Confirm Ratcliffe as ODNI.

      Two, for those who needed the tutorial in how Swamp works, to SEE that all PDJT’s “lousy picks” were NOT PICKED by PDJT, they were “picked” by McConnell, who foisted them on DJT, with a take it or leave it.

      Some here STILL don’t seem to get #2.

      Anyway, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. PDJT can’t keep appointing Grennel to every position, just to force McConnell to follow the Constitution.

      After the election issues are resolved, he really MUST deal, definetively with McConnell and the,Republicons who have been hamstringing and hobbling him his whole first term, and he’s gonna need a bigger hammer than grennell to do it.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        “Some here STILL don’t seem to get #2.”

        It’d be nice if there were 100 Ric Grenells… Bulldogs with no skin in the game… ready to be deployed here, there, and everywhere. But that’s not reality.

        What you got is a handful of Patriots inside Government, but who are more or less powerless, when it comes right down to it… a handful of Patriots who were formerly inside the Government, and who can’t believe we’ve arrived at this point… and then everybody else (Us), spectating from the sidelines, also not believing we’ve arrived at this point, and also more or less powerless.

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  30. OffCourseNation says:

    From Zerohedge (2017-03-09) Said the CIA Was a “Government All Its Own” Which Was Destroying Democracy

    President Truman created the CIA. But in the 1970s, he told his biographer, Merle Miller:

    I think [creation of the CIA] was a mistake. And if I’d known what was going to happen, I never would have done it.

    Why, they’ve got an organization over there in Virginia now that is practically the equal of the Pentagon in many ways. And I think I’ve told you, one Pentagon is one too many.

    Now, as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they’ll have something to report on. They’ve become … it’s become a government all of its own and all secret. They don’t have to account to anybody.

    That’s a very dangerous thing in a democratic society, and it’s got to be put a stop to. The people have got a right to know what those birds are up to. And if I was back in the White House, people would know.

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    • Right to reply says:

      Absolutely true, and a timely quote!
      They have so much information that no one can move, no one can speak without their say-so. It should be dismantled.

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    • borwarrior says:

      Net, need to cut off the CIA’s funding.

      I believe there is a feisty, no nonsense, straight shooting gentleman that resides at the White House that would be interested in pursing this.

      We just need to get him re-elected on 11/3.

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  31. anthonydog says:

    FISA JUDGE ROSEMARY COLLYER’S ORDER: DESTROY SURVEILLANCE DATA COLLECTED ON AND BEFORE MARCH 17, 2017, DATE “THE HAMMER” CIA/FBI WIRETAP ON TRUMP WAS EXPOSED AND SAME DAY SCHIFF HELD MEETING ON TRUMP WIRETAP CLAIM – The American Report

    https://theamericanreport.org/2019/12/24/fisa-judge-rosemary-collyers-order-destroy-surveillance-data-collected-on-and-before-march-17-2017-date-the-hammer-cia-fbi-wiretap-on-trump-was-exposed/

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  32. TwoLaine says:

    Excellent information. Thank you Ric! Keep Pushing and don’t let them protect their phony sources & methods!

    Liked by 1 person

  33. kleen says:

    The Trump Administration is preparing to declassify a document that will utterly destroy the ‘Trump-Russia collusion’ theory years after Obama’s FBI spied on Donald Trump and tried to remove him from office with a bogus investigation.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/trump-admin-declassify-secret-document-revealing-vladimir-putin-actually-trying-hurt-trumps-2016-campaign/

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  34. icthematrix says:

    Whiteboard posted:

    “ Grennel just clarified what documents he was talking about (on Hannity). He said the documents were career FBI CIA people saying this Steele stuff is Russian Disinfo and we should not be pursuring this. the CIA top and FBI top classified (so it can be hid from the public) their MEMOs and pushed them aside.”

    This fits the same info via an article from Just The News today by John Solomon. It shows how completely the Russian collusion was the other way around. Like everything the leftist Dims claim, their accusations are projections based on what THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING. This is a mental illness.

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/next-declassification-could-flip-russia-collusion

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      “The new evidence would complement a revelation last week that the primary source for the Christopher Steele anti-Trump dossier was known to the U.S. government to be tied to Russia intelligence, raising the possibility that the Russians were undercutting the GOP nominee.”

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    • slowcobra says:

      Saul alinsky 101. Accuse your enemy of what YOU are doing.

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    • gunrunner03 says:

      Where are the whistleblowers? Career FBI/CIA people are just that, careerists. Yeah, they are full of “good people.” Not. Silence is complicity. They should be ashamed of themselves.

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  35. Trygve says:

    I’m getting too worked up over all this. The endless disappointments. The endless reloading this site and Twitter. I can’t sleep. I’m taking a break from reading this and similar excellent sites until some time in January. I’ll focus on my family, good food, hiking and maybe some fishing. I’m not letting this crap ruin my life anymore. Time to start living again.

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    • OffCourseNation says:

      Good for you. If I had more sense, I would do the same.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      dont’ sleep! dont quit!

      you are experiencing the GREATEST FIGHT and experience of a WORLD History.

      the BLOWS are coming … Agents lined up. whistle whistle whistle

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      • lavender blue says:

        thx for posting this prognomore… i read on TrueTheVote blog today that only 1 in 4 people vote. I believe that after Bathhouse Barry’s 8yr reign of corruption, lawlessness and ongoing Alinsky tactics, many registered voters lost faith in our elected politicians to honor their oath of office after witnessing all branches of govt become weaponized… this is a knockdown fight against the darkness that embraces Godlessness, moral depravity, deception and power over humanity. Wings up and God bless Treepers!

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        • Kroesus says:

          Nearly 130M voted in the 2016 general election with a total population of just over 330M (including illegals and children). Is that some common core math there? It looks like a 50+% voting rate to me. It is far lower for midterms and lower yet for primaries but you made a generalized statement so it must be true in all instances under the rules of logic.

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  36. nerveman says:

    Is Grenell preparing to be a whistleblower of sorts?

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  37. WSB says:

    Did anyone else have a one minute hiccup with WP?

    Liked by 1 person

  38. Zera says:

    At least there is one certainty come 5 Nov when the Don cleans up…Wray is gone, and equally importantly, a number of his compliant underlings are also gone. If Barr then still declines to prosecute the host of DoJ perps, active and retired, he should also go.

    A Lame Duck Donald can be very dangerous to the Bureaucratic State, I believe.

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    • JBS says:

      Nobody will care at that point. Biden would install an AG that would terminate all investigations/prosecutions and the MSM would bury any newly disclosed information. The only point in time to make a difference is BEFORE the election.

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    • JBS says:

      Nobody will care at that point. Biden would install an AG that would terminate all investigations/prosecutions and the MSM would bury any newly disclosed information. The only point in time to make a difference is BEFORE the election.

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    • JBS says:

      Nobody will care at that point. Biden would install an AG that would terminate all investigations/prosecutions and the MSM would bury any newly disclosed information. The only point in time to make a difference is BEFORE the election.

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  39. Leon Brozyna says:

    Ric Grenell sheds some light on the most hidden part of this (and every) conspiracy … it’s really a fuster cluck, with a very few players actually in the know, while most players are just punching the clock and collecting their pay, some with mixed motives.

    For example, there’s the CYA (aka FBI) that redacts everything, save the usual meaningless preposition. Don’t want to air any dirty laundry.

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  40. Baby Hurley says:

    Here’s a random thought…I wonder if the MAFIA has a witness protection program for FBI whistle blowers who rat out their fellow agents…that would be ironic 🤪

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  41. jx says:

    Subpoena duces tecum and if they don’t comply arrest them. It’s not difficult Barr. In fact it’s your job. DO IT.

    Liked by 2 people

  42. SanJac says:

    Are Gina and John Brennan birds of a feather ?

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  43. Sherri Young says:

    Allow me to place my bet on the OIG at the State Dept as being a problem node.

    Glad that Linick is gone but he was not the only person working there.

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  44. jengancworld says:

    Just to comment from a 5-year treehouse (member)? Maybe it’s the pressure of upcoming election or nerves from what might happen,but there seems to be an awful amount of sniping back and forth between commenters on each and every thread every day lately.
    Not written in a negative manner, just an observation!
    Let’s all try to comment positively
    And get out great President Trump reelected in a LANDSLIDE!!
    After the landslide everything else will fall into place.

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  45. Martin says:

    ..and somewhere, in a nondescript building, some spook is saying “dammit DARPA, the internet was supposed to be for us to watch them, not the other way around!”

    They’ve lost control of their monster.

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  46. QCM says:

    WTF…isn’t Ratcliff DNI…why is he sitting on his thumbs!?!

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    • MelH says:

      Ratcliffe was VERY discredited as a liar about anything he has said since in his new position, by Harry Somebody (a lawyer I’ve not seen before on Shannon Breem’s FOX show.) I’ve always thought it odd the Ratcliffe name has come up so seldom anywhere.
      (I’m all day and half the night on Twitter and a zillion other places where politics are the topic.) The NYT has discredited him and the left of course hates him, especially Mark Warner. But Susan Collins voted for him so he must be ok.(SARC)

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  47. The Boss says:

    Related. I don’t recall seeing this posted here since yesterday. This article may speak in part to Ric Grenell’s impatience – and the impatience of countless others who want the truth to come out. Fairly quick read.

    https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/09/27/my-guess-as-to-why-there-might-be-no-durham-activity-before-election-interview-of-agent-william-barnett/

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  48. Code Talker says:

    Look at the chryon. Fox News is selling it as a “botched investigation”
    LOL…botched as in “got caught”

    Fake News running cover for Fake News.

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  49. mj1977g says:

    I’m hearing in this interview that certain agencies have communications showing direct linkage to Obama/Biden. It seems to be a drumbeat that even Graham, S. Powell, and others are sounding.

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