Wednesday August 12th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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    • Michael Fox says:

      I’ve done all of those mishaps, IN ONE WORKOUT SESSION.

      The health club banned me for life, what little I had left they said.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Ha! I LOLd, as the kids say

      Hard to pick a favorite, I’m leaning toward the gal getting on the treadmill with a long-stemmed glass of red wine

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Reminded me of when my mother was in rehab after a stroke and the PT put her on a treadmill and reached to turn it on. Before I could yell “Don’t” she flicked the switch and my 85 yr old mother never even lifted her foot to take a step and went right off the back of the treadmill. Luckily this PT was on the ball and had moved behind her, so she caught her before she fell. She took the treadmill off the workout list.

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    • auh2o64 says:

      and the winner is…gravity!

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  1. citizen817 says:

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  3. sunnydaze says:

    Sooo relaxing…

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

    Astor Piazzola was an Argentine bandoneon player and composer of “Tango Nuevo” music. At points in his career he composed music for Argentine detective movies. Listening to his “Oblivion” you can can almost smell the sea-air and imagine the sense of bleak loneliness of the Buenos Aires docks at midnight as the final scenes of one of his movies draw to a close.

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  5. Carrie says:

    Hi! This is a plea to you expert Treepers who homeschool your kids and still got them into good universities- my friend and I desperately need to massively supplement the curriculum at our children’s middle school since we just figured out they will hardly have any advanced classes. As you can well imagine, the book choices and history classes were already weak anyway, but now with COVID, it’s going to be even worse. Any suggestions for particular programs?

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    • sunnydaze says:

      This is not specific info at all, but! It seems to me that the Tea Party orgs had some very good American History materials available back when they 1st started. Both a video series and books to go along with it.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Check out Khan Academy and Smithsonian Learning Lab to start.

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      Carrie, I share your concern that on-line teaching will, at best, be little more than a half-measure. This is a particular concern for parents of special needs kids like those with learning disabilities. A lot of parents are turning to “value-added tutoring” where they bring several home-schooled kids together for face-to-face sessions with experienced teachers. Having a great teacher work with three or four kids a couple of times a week can make a big difference.

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      • sunnydaze says:

        Agree.

        Hope more parents can organize this kind of thing. Even once or twice a week would be great.

        It’s easier to generate enthusiasm towards learning a particular subject when you’ve got a group – even a small one- that’s working together on the same subject.

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        • Garrison Hall says:

          Oh, I agree. Face-to-face is always better. On-line has it’s uses but it works best with students who already have established learning skills and just need to complete the course material. For others, it’s just too easy to get lost. We’re going to lose a lot of kids because of this.

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      • Jacaranda11816 says:

        There is such a vast quality difference between online programs that it’s hard to compare. Here in the DC-area, it’s like a study in mass cowardice watching all the public and private schools switch over to all-virtual instruction leading up to, what else, the election. They plan to just zoom straight, live lecturing or prerecorded videos for the most part and that is bottom of the barrel as online learning goes.

        On the other hand, at various times over the years, I have watched my daughter use apps and online platforms for math, geography, foreign language, and certain other subjects that lend themselves beautifully to fully-realized online instruction with animation, illustration, and interactivity the blows away what a live teacher can do. It’s very tempting to switch to online but she loves her school and her school friends too much for that.

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    • littlequilterkitty says:

      http://www.nogreaterjoy.org. These folks have lots of info on homeschooling.

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    • Shooter Six says:

      I wonder (without knowing) if Hillsdale College has any resources they might share or recommend? It may be an inquiry they would welcome.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      Just say’n… 😉

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      Just say’n… 😉

      Yes, they are on a sailboat.
      All the more challenging to
      home school four children.

      P.S.- The oldest is currently in college.

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    • piper567 says:

      Carrie, check out Classical Conversations for anything you may be looking for.
      Very in-depth.

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    • I might suggest contacting Hillsdale College in Michigan for guidance.

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    • Carrie says:

      You guys have been AWESOME! I wrote my comment last night as I crawled into bed and it’s just amazing to have so many posts by morning! Thank you guys 🙏🏻❤️
      I did hear a lot about “pods” being constructed and I can find a link or two for others if someone is interested. The problem with where I live is with my 11 year old (almost 12), the parents are so petrified they don’t even want to do pods! So she’s the one I’m sending to school for socialization (those are the only parents ok with human contact) and I hope to supplement on the side with one of these programs.
      My youngest (who is 8) is the one with special needs and I already have a fully private program for her- (pretty amazing some of you remembered)
      I drive my eldest up to college in Boston at the end of the month. I just read they can even have guests in their rooms- not even friends!

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      • Carrie says:

        Sorry- the last part is supposed to say all friends are banned from their dorm rooms (as if they won’t be meeting somewhere else?)

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Carrie, I homeschooled my son. I can tell you without a doubt, your children have something important too many children don’t, a parent who cares and who is paying attention. I can’t tell you how many parents I knew whose children were going into middle school and had just found out their child couldn’t read. Seriously? What had they been doing for the last 6 years?

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      • Garrison Hall says:

        Carrie, you might turn to local churches for organizational help. Most have education ministers who focus on Bible School but they’re also teachers, know good teachers in their congretation, and, best of all, they have space. I’m relieved to know that you have a good program in line for our special needs child. I have experience working with LD kids (I’m LD myself—dyslexic among other things) and know how important real classroom experience is for them. Basically, what you’re looking for with on-line courses, is small-group tutoring aimed at filling in the blanks that always seem to accompany on-line courses. Good luck and keep us posted!

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    • RePete says:

      Carrie: any universities you may be considering will have an admissions or counseling department. Start there, and direct these questions directly to their offices. This will ensure any AP credits will be accepted at that particular university. They have specific resources and can direct you to those programs.

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    • Jacaranda11816 says:

      Johns Hopkins’ CTY program is good for advanced classes. Students have to get qualifying test scores to participate; they currently offer their SCAT test online for qualification purposes. Certain core courses have waitlists which sounds weird for online but that’s because each course comes with an instructor who is virtually available if the student needs help. A lot of private schools in this area are eliminating AP classes so my high schooler will be taking APs online through CTY.

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    • Surfhut says:

      Hi Carrie and all! I yanked my child out of 6th grade and homeschooled. In California, when homeschooling was being fought against in the most despicable ways. I was threatened with arrest, my child threatened with truancy, etc. I found the California Homeschooling Association online and was given great advice by their attorney, who was homeschooling his own children.

      I formed my own private school and registered it with the Department of Education. My curriculum was based on pre-1950 books I either found online or were my father’s (he was born 1922). It was a lot of hard work!

      When math got over my head and I could not afford proper science lab equipment, I went to a local junior college to enroll my child in those classes. The admissions clerk laughed at me. She was horrible and denied admission. Sitting in front of her, I called my lawyer. Soon the phone rang and she immediately admitted my child.

      My child applied to two major universities and was accepted to both. Graduated with a 3.8. Kid never took a SAT or whatever. They just looked at my curriculum, the tests and test scores I kept record of. Of course, having a lawyer helped!

      Bottom line: don’t think you can buy a package and turn it over to your child to work through it. This is a hand-on deal. I can’t remember how many sleepless nights I spent staying ahead of what I was gong to teach and/or help the kid learn.

      BTW kid is now 30 something. Awesome career doing what kid loves to do.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        I hear that there are homeschooling groups that share resources. Try looking for such groups in your location.

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      • Carrie says:

        Wow Surfhut! I love your determination! I’m doing something similar for my youngest with autism- sleepless nights abound!

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      • Garrison Hall says:

        Carrie, I think it is absolutely criminal that your school hasn’t come up with something better for special needs kids like your child. Autistic kids desperately need more regular structure in their lives than that provided by on-line education. Here’s an idea. Your child is covered by ADA rules that require schools to provide “equality of access” for special needs. This means that schools are required by law to treat each disabled child as an individual. Further, they are not in charge of determining who is and who is disabled. That’s your job! Give some thought to writing to your school’s superintendent (w/copy to the board president). Describe your child’s involvement with autism, express your concern that on-line education will not be sufficient given your child’s needs, and then request a “reasonable accommodation” (use this term) which will provide individual or small group tutoring for your child. Doing this immediately activates the ADA resolution process which means your request is now backed up by federal law. If you’re school asks to have your child evaluated by their school psychologist tell them you’ll have your own physician or psychologist do the evaluating.

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        • Carrie says:

          Thanks Garrison!! Actually, my district is wealthy and has a one size fits all approach for all kids with special needs. They violate federal law regularly- it will be impossible to change their adversarial approach until the head of Special Needs is removed (she’s been there for over 30 years). So I sued for due process (like countless other families) and they are helping to pay 50% of my new program – I pay the rest. The public school will takes years to get back on track and unfortunately there isn’t a suitable school in a one hour radius. So you do what you can.

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          • Garrison Hall says:

            Been there and done that. I’m glad to know you’re this much on top of things. School districts love to convince parents they hold all the cards when, in fact, they don’t.
            Your child will benefit so much from what you are doing. I’m really touched to hear this. Good on ‘ya!

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    • Taximom07 says:

      Check out the catalog Veritas Press. I used many of the books listed on that sight to homeschool my son 15 years ago, and he had no problem getting into university.
      Check out your local community college. Here in Northern Virginia, NOVA community college allows students as young as 16 to enroll in classes.

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    • rrick says:

      Carrie, contact Renee here. Her children have been homeschooled. One of her daughters was recently accepted into Harvard.

      E-mail Renee here:
      https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&source=mailto#

      If that does not work here, go to her webpage:
      https://sailingzatara.com/

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    • OW21 says:

      Carrie – check out My Tech High – an online curriculum. Also, Kahn Academy has loads and loads of tutorials and info on just about everything. My daughter is using The Good and the Beautiful because it is a Christian based home school program. She says it is amazing! Good luck!

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    • greenswampgirl says:

      abeka.com
      Excellence in Education from a Christian Perspective Since 1972
      Free shipping. Every order. Every day.

      Excellent academics. Accepted our daughter into honors program. Go Gators.

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    • AZMom says:

      I like ArtofProblemSolving.com for math. This is a curriculum designed by math experts (not common core) which teaches how the problems work, not just how to solve for answers. The books are self teaching with answers available, but if you have funding for teachers, they have online classes you can sign up for as well. You can check out samples and placement tests from their website. I would recommend this for students who really love math and want more than how to solve. The problems are interesting and range from simple to really challenging, so it sometimes feels like solving puzzles rather than equations.

      Life of Fred is math series that is light on problems to solve, but solid in math content taught. If your kids like words more than numbers they might like this approach. The math is put in the context of a really silly story, with the key math portions set off in boxes with occasional problems to test whether you understand the concepts and can do the work. The back of the books all have an index to find specific topics when you want to locate something specific. One of my sons passed the AP Calculus test after teaching himself using Life of Fred Calculus. He also tried some of the online free sources from MIT and another college, but he said the recorded lectures were harder to work with, so he mostly used Fred and just stuck with it until he figured out what he was doing.

      TheGreatCourses.com also has video classes for high school level math and a couple science classes that are taught by top professors. The classes can be streamed or downloaded depending on what you purchase, but they also come with downloadable guidebooks with additional practice problems and transcripts of the lectures to follow along or go back to review. (The classes are expensive if you don’t buy them on sale, but there are different sales running all the time, so don’t be scared by the price, just contact customer service and see what they can help you with. What might look like $300 can come down to as low as $35-50 at least once a year.)

      Apologia Science curriculum is from a Christian viewpoint and extremely solid. Lessons can be read straight from the book or given to a student to read for themselves. They include science projects and supply lists. My son also used this to study for AP Physics. He had to study both the Physics and Advanced Physics texts to cover all the material for the AP test, but he got a good score, so I know the content is thorough and a good preparation for college level work.

      My spelling curriculum is All About Spelling. It has 7 levels, and teaches all kinds of spelling rules I never knew existed. The review is built in. Most of my kids were decent spellers just because they read so much that they just pick it up and don’t need a comprehensive program, but a couple of them really struggled. This program teaches everything step by step and with the built in review, you can see what skills they keep forgetting so you can focus on the trouble spots. It also helps with memory because each lesson ends with dictation, so they learn to hold on to a sentence while they are writing it. You can actually see the improvement in what they are able to repeat back.

      To teach writing, Excellence in Writing is a program I have found interesting. The premise is that most people expect kids to make up what they are going to write which is an obstacle to putting anything on paper. This program starts by teaching them to identify key words in a written sample, put them in an outline, then tell it in their own words before writing it down. This teaches a variety of skills, and avoids both the problem of writer’s block and accidentally copying a block of text when you are writing a research paper because your notes don’t have complete sentences to copy.

      I have had 4 kids attend college on scholarship so far, so I think the curriculum options have worked for us. I would suggest if you are planning to homeschool through high school, though, to contact the school admissions department for the colleges you are interested in and talk to their homeschool specialist. They can tell you what they need before you get a surprise at the last minute. Admission to college doesn’t require all the things a state requires for a high school diploma, but they have certain boxes to check and your won’t be let in if you are out of the range. Some schools want a GED, some don’t. Some will treat the application like a regular student with transcripts that you need to create, others will weigh ACT/SAT more heavily to make up for not having a high school GPA to use for ranking them. After my first child went through this, I found a charter school that gave me enough flexibility in choosing classes I liked while they kept track of transcripts and grades and I found that much easier.

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  6. Garrison Hall says:

    Note to guitar players: If you look closely you’ll see that Katrin is playing a particularly good lattice top guitar by Australian luthier Simon Marty. Lattice-top guitars are quite thin and a reinforced by carefully designed carbon-fiber bracing under the top. This produces an instrument that has a lot more volume than conventional fan-braced classical guitars. You can easily hear the greater projection of her guitar compared to Sebastián’s fan-braced guitar.

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    • barnabusduke says:

      The lower notes especially, that was the first thing that I noticed. Very deep but bright and mellow at the same time. Beautiful sound! Jealous! But I could never do such a guitar justice. 😉

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  7. czarowniczy says:

    Researchers have just discovered the nested DNA of an unknown human ancestor along with the Neanderthal DNA in a number of modern humans. These ancient humans mated with Neanderthals an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, well before the 50,000 year guesstimate of Homo Sapiens moving to the suburbs from Africa.

    I see two results from these findings. First, the oddly named ‘History Channel’ now has fodder for yet another season of Ancient Aliens and second, this may well push the estimated point for the genesis of beer way father back then previously thought.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Do you have a link, czar?

      Here’s a possibly related article I’ve had open in a browser tab but have gotten to reading yet

      DNA from an unknown ancient ancestor of humans that once bred with Denisovans still exists among people today, study reveals

      • Researchers from the US developed a new tool to analyse ancient DNA
      • Three per cent of the Neanderthal genome can from an ancient human group
      • This genetic transfer is thought to have occurred some 300,000 years ago
      • Also, one per cent of the Denisovan genome came from an unknown species
      • This ancient ancestor of humans may have been Homo Erectus, the team think

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8601195/DNA-unknown-human-ancestor-bred-Denisovans-exists-people-today.html

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      You got to love archaeological discovers that don’t quite fit the “received wisdom” narrative. One of my favorite is the discovery of a hafted spear-point in an ancient lake shore (German coal mine actually) that carbon dated to approximately the Neanderthal era—250,000 years before modern humans developed what was a very sophisticated weapons technology. Learning flint-napping is something that requires great skill in itself.
      But then learning to firmly attach the napped point to a spear wasn’t supposed to have appeared in the fossil record for another 200 thousand years. Must have been some pretty smart Neanderthals . . .

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    • willthesuevi says:

      Hybrid vigor.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Not to mention those Flintstone beer goggles.

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        • willthesuevi says:

          KInda like when my neighbor hood deer eat the fermented apples from next door. Gives a whole new meaning to “stag party”!

          Can’t you just see the Neanderthals hanging ’round the apple tree. “Whoo, Hooo, did you guys see that new Denisovian chick hanging around the creek”?

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  8. David says:

    American friends, I think that with all the insanity that is going on and the uncertainty it’s time for some happy music with an optimistic message of “It will be well”. Enjoy , the Israeli band “Static”

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  9. nimrodman says:

    Smarter than the average bear:

    Black bear casually joins a family for a picnic of peanut butter sandwiches at woodland cabin in Maryland

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8616959/Black-bear-casually-joins-family-picnic-remote-woodland-Maryland.html

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  11. David says:

    Hello American friends, I attached here a very special song by one of my favorite Israeli singers. The guy was a combat soldier with traumatic experiences who went to a talent TV show and became a star. He is writing and composing. His name is Idan Amedi . It’s a simple love song and the words are directed to a woman. I will attach them English translation below in case you want to know. Enjoy!

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    • David says:

      Till the Next Day Comes

      Till the next day comes,
      The calm will return,
      I will no longer ask you where you’re from,
      I’ll just be glad you’re here.
      All those crazy people out there,
      I will lock outside the door.
      I will love you just as you dreamed,
      Like the song, simple like that.

      Till the next day comes,
      The sun will return,
      And it will brighten up your kind eyes,
      Which I have caused to despair, for some reason.
      I will learn some big words,
      About a house, on the way.
      I will learn to say that I’m sorry,
      That if you’d leave, I’d have nothing.

      Till the next day comes,
      You’ll say that you belong,
      And then the morning will wake,
      Wash it all, and us too.
      Till that day comes I will stop
      Leaving you.
      My love, when that day comes,
      You’ll know it’s forever.

      Till the next day comes,
      The calm will return,
      I will no longer ask you where you’re from,
      I’ll just be glad you’re here.
      And the flowers are spread across the table,
      The yellow ones that you like.
      I will say that I believe,
      I will say it’ll last forever.

      Till the next day comes,
      You’ll say that you belong,
      And then the morning will wake,
      Wash it all, and us too.
      Till that day comes I will stop
      Leaving you.
      My love, when that day comes,
      You’ll know it’s forever.
      https://lyricstranslate.com

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  12. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The Father Of Our Country And The Apostle To The Nations

    Millions highly honor George Washington as “the father of our country,” but how few know about Paul, God’s apostle to the nations!

    Not Matthew, or Mark or Luke; not Peter or James or John, but Paul alone wrote:

    “FOR I SPEAK TO YOU GENTILES (or, YOU OF THE NATIONS] INASMUCH AS I AM THE APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES [NATIONS]: I MAGNIFY MINE OFFICE” (Rom. 11:13).

    And remember, Paul wrote this by divine inspiration. But note well that Paul did not magnify himself, but his office, to which he had been appointed by the glorified Lord. In defending his apostleship before the Galatians, he wrote:

    “But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

    “For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ” (Gal. 1:11,12).

    In many other passages the Apostle claims to speak as a direct representative of Christ (See I Cor. 11:23; 15:3; Eph. 3:2,3; I Thes. 4:15; etc.). To Timothy Paul wrote in I Tim. 6:3-5 concerning his own writings:

    “If any man teach OTHERWISE, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing…”

    This could not demonstrate more emphatically Paul’s claim that his words were “the words of our Lord Jesus Christ,” received from Him by direct revelation. To the Corinthians, who questioned this, the Apostle wrote:

    “…IF I COME AGAIN I WILL NOT SPARE, SINCE YE SEEK A PROOF OF CHRIST SPEAKING IN ME” (II Cor. 13:2,3).

    The proof of this claim? This was overwhelming indeed, for Paul was used more than any other apostle to found churches and lead men into the knowledge and joy of salvation. To the Corinthian believers he wrote what he could have written to many thousands of others: “The seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord” (I Cor. 9:2).

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/the-father-of-our-country-and-the-apostle-to-the-nations/

    Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    1Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

    1Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
    3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

    1Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    1Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

    2Corinthians 13:2 I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare: :3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you.

    1Cor 9:2 If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.

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  14. nimrodman says:

    A little trouble in the Indian Ocean. A real shame, it’s a coral reef environment, one of the most fragile that there is

    ‘The danger of the ship breaking in two is increasing hour by hour’: Mauritius is warned to brace for ‘worst case scenario’ as cracks reach base of crashed ship and conservationists report first dead wildlife from oil spill
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8612909/Mauritius-brace-worst-case-scenario-oil-spill-says-PM.html

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    • nimrodman says:

      click twice on those photos to enlarge, the 2nd one is pretty amazing

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    • rah says:

      I don’t get too upset about this stuff. Here is the reality. Corals come back! The ecological system cleans it’s self pretty quickly. The initial damage looks horrible and sea birds and otters and other sea creatures sucks. But it comes back quickly as if it never happened. There are many natural oil seeps in our waters.

      Oil was discovered at Aruba and drilling operations started in 1928 and so did the oil slicks and they lasted until well after WW II.

      During WW II Aruba was a major oil terminal and refining location oil being shipped to the US from S. America. US sailors accounts say that if you were down wind you could smell the island before you saw it. They could navigate to the place at night simply by smelling and following the oil. The whole island was continually surrounded by an continually replenished slick for decades. Add to that the fact that U-boats also sank a bunch of tankers and other ships who’s wrecks still lay in the area and that leaked oil for years after the war with no mitigation efforts attempted.

      Despite years of oil slicks and leakage and dumping of waste from the island mines and refinery Aruba became a tourist attraction in the mid 1950s because of it’s clear clean waters. Been considered one of the top dive locations for tourists on this side of the Atlantic for over 40 years.

      So while the damage appears terrible the reality is it is very temporary. Though one wouldn’t know it from the BS we’re fed by watermelon environmentalists and their allies in our press.

      Also during WW II miles and miles of coral heads were destroyed by dredging or simply being blown up. The #1 targets of US submarines were the Japanese Capitol ships but coming in a close 2nd on that list were tankers and oilers. The US alone sank over 1 1/2 million tons of Japanese tankers and oilers. Where is the damage now?

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      • RePete says:

        Never been to Aruba, but I have been to Bonaire and Curaçao. The coral head was amazing in Bonaire, and completely destroyed from cruise ships in some areas. The ABC islands are essentially a massive prehistoric corral head, and when the polar caps melt the entire of the Dutch Antilles will be gone, and the corral and reef life will return. At present they have a massive oil refinery that is well aged and pollutes their entire port in Curaçao. It’s absurd and disgusting and from my perspective does little to improve the lives of the locals. Having heavy industry so close to civilization is hazardous. Especially in Hurricane season. Funny thing is, here in California you can walk the beaches and see oil seeping up from the sand and ocean floor. The tar balls stick to your feet and do not clean off easily. Crude oil is a product of nature. Smashing into reefs with a ship full of tourists or getting drunk behind the rudder and spilling millions of gallons of crude oil is a product of mankind.

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        • rah says:

          On Aruba tourism didn’t become their prime source of income until the oil glut in the 80’s. until then it was oil and before oil it was gold mining. People want to have a better standard of living and if they have to put up with industry to do so they will. But as a rule, the more developed a society becomes, the greater the efforts to protect the environment and clean up the messes from the past.

          Betio Island, Tarawa atoll, Sight of probably the most concentrated fury of WW II. Red Beach where the Marines took a terrible beating getting ashore and inland was covered with trash. Trash covering sands where there are still pieces of Marine bone found. From what I have read there have been some efforts to clean it up since the atrocious conditions were revealed to the world in the 90s.

          The ice caps will not doubt melt sometime. We’re in the Holocene epoch which is an interglacial period. According to the Milankovitch cycles and natural history as we understand it, we’re far more likely to go back into a glacial period or even several of them before the ice caps melt ending the ice age we are currently end. In geologic terms ice ages only end only when the poles become ice free. IOW enjoy the warm, because some future generations, if humans are still around, are going to envy our warmth.

          The claim of runaway warming is pure BS. Never happened as far as we can tell from geologic/paleo evidence. In fact about 450 million years ago during the Ordovician period CO2 ran as high as 2,000 ppm (compared to about 402 ppm now) and yet it was during that time frame that earth saw the greatest explosion of life according to the fossil record. That is when hard corals and mollusks like clams first show up.

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          • nimrodman says:

            Thanks for the perspectives, rah and rePete, much appreciated

            I know a bit about what you say, I’m a geologist by training, have worked a bit on fuel contamination in ground water, and have been to Bahamas, a couple Pacific and Indian-Ocean atolls, reef environments in Indonesia and Philippines (surfer)

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            • booger71 says:

              I was an well site geologist for 7 years back in the late 70’s to middle 80’s. I still miss it.

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            • rah says:

              Just a reader with life long interests in earth sciences, natural history, astronomy, and world history. Three years of “higher learning”. Been involved in the climate change wars for a couple of decades now and have learned just enough to be dangerous.

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      • booger71 says:

        I have been to Aruba…beautiful island, and didn’t see any slicks. I have seen videos of deep ocean cracks that naturally seep oil. There is some amazing sea life that thrives there.

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  15. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    Baby Lives Matter.

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  16. Dora says:

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  18. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day for Wednesday, August 12, 2020

    “And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.”

    Deuteronomy 6:5 (KJV)

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  19. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  20. rah says:

    This trucker never thought he would be happy to see flashing school zone signs. And the only thing more frustrating than school buses doing their business are garbage trucks.

    But yesterday on my way to Huntsville, AL I was driving down TN -50 and when I entered Lynchburg, TN there was the flashing school zone sign and then a busy school with cars and buses pulling in and it made me smile. As I drove on into through town there were kids out at the end of their driveways waiting on the school bus. Then as I came down a little grade on the right at the end of a driveway was a little girl holding her Mommy’s hand waiting on the bus. Her arm was pumping in the universal sign and you can be sure I gave her a couple to toots on the big horn. I was rewarded by a big smile and enthusiastic wave as I went by. Made my day.

    And all that enjoyment in the town which is the whisky mecca for me since my most often preferred adult beverage is Jack Danials Old No. 7.

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  21. NICCO says:

    The Almighty has brought this man to the presidency for such a time as this.Father God ,we come to you in the name of Jesus Christ,we lift up to you President Donald John Trump,we cover him and his family with the precious blood of Jesus Christ and decree and declare Zachariah 2;5 over them and that the fire of your presence be upon him.No witchcraft,no voodoo,,no hex,no vex,no power,no principality and no demon in hell will succeed.He will not be impeached,assassinated or harmed in any way and that no weapon formed against him or his family shall prosper.Father we call upon the captain of the heavenly angelic legions of warring angels to be dispatched to destroy every plot and plan of the evil one.Father we thank you that you hear and answer us in the name above all names Jesus Christ,the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.We praise and worship you Father,in Jesus precious name ,Amen

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  22. just stevie says:

    THE THEOLOGY OF REST

    “Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith?” Matthew viii. 26

    When we are in fear we can do nothing less than pray to God, but Our Lord has a right to expect that those who name His Name should have an understanding confidence in Him. God expects His children to be so confident in Him that in any crisis they are the reliable ones. Our trust is in God up to a certain point, then we go back to the elementary panic prayers of those who do not know God. We get to our wits’ end, showing that we have not the slightest confidence in Him and His government of the world; He seems to be asleep, and we see nothing but breakers ahead.

    “O ye of little faith!” What a pang must have shot through the disciples – ‘Missed it again!’ And what a pang will go through us when we suddenly realize that we might have produced downright joy in the heart of Jesus by remaining absolutely confident in Him, no matter what was ahead.

    There are stages in life when there is no storm, no crisis, when we do our human best; it is when a crisis arises that we instantly reveal upon whom we rely. If we have been learning to worship God and to trust Him, the crisis will reveal that we will go to the breaking point and not break in our confidence in Him.

    We have been talking a great deal about sanctification – what is it all going to amount to? It should work out into rest in God which means oneness with God, a oneness which will make us not only blameless in His sight, but a deep joy to Him.

    Oswald Chambers
    August 12th Devotional

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  23. mikeyboo says:

    David from Israel-I hope you see this comment: You posted a link to the band Static with a feel good song: Static and Ben El – Kvish HaHoff
    I loved this video!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  24. czarowniczy says:

    I’m waiting to see if the Democrats will take a new tack with their fundraising:

    Hi, this is Kamala from Card Services calling about your credit card account. It appears that you are now eligible for a significantly lower interest rate on your account. “

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  25. Sepp says:

    The Holy Apostles Silas and Silvanus of the Seventy and those with them: Crescens, Epenetos, and Andronicos

    They are honored today on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church July 30th or August 12th on the civil or commercial calendar.

    This link is to the listing of the Seventy Apostles as they are commemorated together in January..

    http://www.cpress.orthodoxws.com/lives_4_january

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  26. czarowniczy says:

    I’m watching the ABC News and the have the mayor of Laredo, Tx on talking about the surge in coronavirus cases there, especially in the detention facilities. What they’re not saying is how many of those cases are coming over the border bringing the virus with them. ABC and the mayor also managed to shoehorn the Wall into the equation though even they had to grease the inference to get it in…also gratuitous shots of 18-wheeler cold trailers brought in to house the bodies.

    Totally unmentioned is Mexico has a pretty good guesstimated COVID rate going itself though the actual number (arguably higher than the ‘official’ number) is off due to bureaucratic bumbling and inefficient reporting. Fear not though, El presidente mexicano is opening all of the bars and cinemas in Mexico to save the economy! Jeez, a choice as to whether we’re supposed to accept a tsunami of infected Mexicans rushing the border to look for free treatment or broke Mexicans rushing the border to escape poverty or a medley of both.

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    • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

      Of course FakeNews ABC wouldn’t dare admit that 90% of the new cases surging in Texas recently come from border jumpers. Doesn’t fit their narrative. Also not fit to broadcast is an uptick in breakins and robberies here in the Texas suburbs. So stay aware and be prepared.

      And on that note this just in from the DC area, “The FBI is investigating an incident, involving a helicopter assigned to President Donald Trump’s support detail.

      The UH-1N Huey helicopter, assigned to Joint Base Andrews just outside of Washington, D.C., was conducting a routine training flight roughly 1,000 feet above the ground before it was forced to make an emergency landing at an airport in nearby Manassas, Virginia after being struck by a bullet shortly after noon on Monday. Helo was was met by paramedics to treat the injured crewman, an Air Force spokesperson said.

      The helicopter is assigned to the 1st Helicopter Squadron, which supports the movement of the president and other senior government officials to and from Andrews, where Air Force One is also based. The crewman, whose identity was not released, was taken to a local hospital for treatment for a non-life threatening injury and has subsequently been released. The aircraft also sustained damage, the Air Force said.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        It’s assigned to the USAF 1st Helicopter Squadron at Andrews, it supports POTUS-related personnel and other high-ranking figures\ in DC. The Marine helicopters that directly support the POTUS are stationed over at Anacostia at Bolling.

        I was lucky enough years ago to get a tour of Marine One at Anacostia while I was at the DIA, a truly impressive bird, much more appointed than the SH-3s the Navy flew us nose-pickers on. The LEA will be interested in who shot at the Huey but unless the shooter had some really tough artillery all s/he’d have done is really piss off the crew.

        Like I said yesterday, the Democrats and their Swamp owners are getting really desperate and I really believe Trump’s life might be in danger if this election starts to definitely swing this way. Schumer and Pelosi are against guns but their determination to curb gun violence just might have practical limits. Can’t forget that the CIA’s been implicated in the attempted Trump coup and they were our point-persons in regime change throughout the years in many countries. 2 November 1963, Saigon, Carpe Diem…22 November 1963, Dallas…

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      • SRT392 says:

        Interesting that the Huey incident is just now being reported when it happened mid-day Monday.

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    • rah says:

      During the slow times when we were recovering from the recession all this trucker did was runs down to Laredo. Easy to get loads down but getting loads back was a different story so the Company made a deal with Red Roof Inn and we stayed there, sometimes for five days waiting for a backhaul. I frequently heard gun fire in the distance laying in bed at night while at the motel.

      On the upside at the Valero next door had some Mamacitas that could cook! To heck with Danny’s which has a couple of popular sit down Mexican restaurants down there. Go find yourself a gas station/convenience store where the Mamacitas are cooking for the best and much less expensive Tex-Mex.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I worked the border on and off from the miod-70s thru about the time I retired in 2007 and those eateries with real Mex kitchen staff were the high points of an otherwise miserable and sucky job.

        That period forged my maxim that Mexican beer sucks but back when you could still get original Schlitz…

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        • rah says:

          Virtually all of the very best meals I have had on the road as a trucker have come from little out of the way places. One night on the way to the Pepsi bottler in Charlotte, NC with a load of new cans produced by Ball metal container I was searching for a place to take a 10 hour break. Parking for a big truck was at a premium that time of night close to Charlotte and I actually backtracked on the interstate to find a place.

          What I found was a little restaurant with parking for about 6 trucks behind it and one slot left open. Took my break and the next morning wanting to give the place that provided it a little business I walked into that little place. Four older women, a wooden counter, and kitchen tables and chairs like we had in the 50’s when I was little kid. You know the kind with chrome borders and linoleum tops with the designs on it.

          But I knew I had made a good choice when I walked in based on the smell, the women, and the big old sausage grinder I saw in the back.

          Two eggs sunny side up, sausage patties, and biscuits is what I ordered. Served on a styrofoam plate with a plastic set up. The eggs were huge, obviously farm fresh, and done perfectly. The sausage obviously homemade and outstanding as were the huge biscuits. So good I ordered a sausage and egg sandwich to go and the bread was obviously not store bought. We don’t do Ball runs anymore. Wish we did.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Back in the late 60s when I augmented my miserable pay by bootlegging in NE Alabama and NW Georgia. On 117 between Mentone, AL and the Georgia border used to be an old 24/7 truck stop that was largely used by overweight rigs trying to avoid the scales and, of course, bootleggers. We’d get the best meals there, their fresh biscuits and various gravies went with whatever you ordered if you wanted it and there was plenty on your plate at a more than reasonable price.

            It burned down more years ago than I care to think about but the fond memories remain. The National Guard Armory and private barn dances we supplied are gone too, but then nothing lasts.

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            • muskea says:

              That’s Sand Mountain you’re talking about……….goodness………..back in the day of my rebellious youth, in which the Lord has forgive me, I remember a bootlegger by the name, “Bud Allen”………..started in a trailer, ended up across the pond in a real Southern type Mansion…..did you do business with him?

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              • czarowniczy says:

                No, Mentone is on Lookout Mountain, Sand Mountain’s across I-59 to the west.

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                • muskea says:

                  Well, it’s still Dekalb County, part of the 3 ring counties that comprise Sand Mountain being Marshall, Dekalb, Jackson Counties….. last of the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains We considered it part of our “backyard” so to say……..God’s Country some would say. Were you born in ‘them thar hills’?

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  No sweat, a lot of people forget that the valley 59 goes thru splits the two, I done ferget until, after being away for many years, went back to see my old Vietnam/bootlegging pal who lived on Lookout Mountain originally but moved onto Sand Mountain.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Didn’t know Bud though he may have been one of the guys whose territory we slopped into and who shot at us. Hoyt and I stayed on
                lookout, Sand Mountain was (and in some areas still is) a less hospitable area to crash.

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                • muskea says:

                  I heard that! I am sure you could of “trespassed onto his territory” being that close. It’s a place that even on a beautiful summer day, you could feel the darkness. In later years, relatives told me of a tragedy that happen after I left the area………in one of the coldest winters, the pond froze over and a young girl and her boyfriend had gone to buy liquor (I think the county still is “dry”). The boy got out to go up to the back window of the bedroom of the trailer, (Bud Allen had already built the mansion across the pond, but still had the trailer out front in which he bootlegged out of) and the young girl wanted to turn the car around and drove out (accidently?) on the pond to turn around and it broke up and she and the car went under…………what a horror.
                  By the way, I had a uncle named Hoyt! Not many name Hoyt anymore!

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Hoyt Eugene P…?

                  There’s still a good bit of dark stuff going on on Sand Mountain, but then that was the lifestyle there for years…centuries?

                  I used to like climbing down into Little River Canyon way back before the area became a tourist site. We’d take food and a bedroll and spend days walking out, it was total isolation. Hunting, legal and illegal, used to be great too.

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                • muskea says:

                  No, Hoyt J…….but Eugene now that’s a good one too…..U’Gene would be the way we would say it back in the day…had a Uncle named that too. Sometimes we would go to Short Creek Falls and High Creek Falls, in which Humming Harold fell off, drunk as a cooter after Prom, even though he wasn’t at Prom, and he lived to tell about it! That was the best swimming hole. It had a water fall, like a mini Noccolula Falls. And last but not least, a very special place up in the back woods near Asbury called Negro Sara Burns……supposedly whose cabin was burn during the Civil War but in the Summertime it was called RATTLESNAKE MOUNTAIN. I spent a lot of time up there, mostly by myself. It was hauntingly beautiful. But you knew instinctively when to leave. Fast.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  ‘Hoyt’ is an old English name that was not that uncommon before the Yankee trash started in with their Long Island names. We used to philosophize on how many Yankees it would take to fill up the Little River Canyon and when we could start.

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                • muskea says:

                  That must have been why “hoytee-toytee” was coined……….it must have been the Yanks, carpetbaggers and our very own scalawags. The more things change the more they stay the same. It’s not always fun being on the losing end.

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      • allin4freedom says:

        I’ve made a few stops beyond our shores and I’ve found that people everywhere have two things in common: they know how to have fun and they have good things to eat. If we’d just focus on those two things, the world would be a better place.

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  27. An says:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislaine-maxwell-taken-suicide-watch-lawyers-claim-mistreatment-prison-officials

    Ghislane is off suicide watch. Someone want to tell Barr that the cameras are about to “malfunction” and she’ll “die” any day now? Maybe someone should check on that beforehand…

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    • Margot says:

      An, I didn’t see your post and must have posted right after you. Sorry. I got a bitter laugh over how she’s complaining of “mistreatment”, considering how she treated all the young women in Epstein’s stable. What a wretched excuse for a human being.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Considering her connections to the Royal Family – the Brit’s, not the Clintons – I wouldn’t be surprised to see her accidentally eating a poison scone.

      It’s interesting how, after total denials by the Degenerate Family, that now we’re starting to see the idea being pushed that Randy Andy was just an innocent pawn in Epstein’s wicked machinations to ensnare to rich and powerful. The story being fielded is that His Royal Perversity is as much a victim as the underage girls he knighted. Where’s Chopper Smith when you really need him?

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Ghislane did not kill herself…………………………Oops, sorry, I’m too early.

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  28. Margot says:

    Ghislaine Maxwell Taken Off Suicide Watch, Claims Mistreatment Including ‘Numerous Body Scans’

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislaine-maxwell-taken-suicide-watch-lawyers-claim-mistreatment-prison-officials

    She is complaining of “mistreatment” including body scans. Wow, that is rich considering her frequent abuse and rough treatment of underage girls. You can’t make this stuff up.

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    • Linda K. says:

      Now she understands how it feels to be powerless.

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      • Margot says:

        Exactly, Linda K. This woman should have full body cavity searches 24/7 in my opinion, considering what that witch put those poor girls through.

        And I hope that FULL story comes out on all of this, but I’d be dreaming, considering we really don’t have a Justice Department as such.

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  29. Margot says:

    RIP, Trini Lopez. My parents had all of his record albums and played them constantly. He was quite popular back in the day. I remember my parents trying to teach me and my siblings how to dance the frug, hully gully and even watusi to to his music. I had no idea what it was all about, but it was fun.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/trini-lopez-e2-80-98if-i-had-a-hammer-e2-80-99-singer-and-actor-dead-at-83-from-coronavirus/ar-BB17QLnG?ocid=uxbndlbing

    They say he died of COVID, but at 83, it could have been anything.

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  30. Margot says:

    Florida sheriff bans deputies and visitors from wearing face masks

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-sheriff-bans-deputies-and-visitors-from-wearing-face-masks/ar-BB17SR1n

    So proud of you, Billy Woods! Live Long and Prosper!

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Seems that the state of Louisiana and the New Orleans government have bowed to the NFLers and are allowing bodies into the Dome for Saints games. They’re bouncing the figure of 20,000 to 30,000 bodies in the stands – or more – depending upon COVID numbers and what Phase we’re in.

      The city’s 311 and 911 lines are overwhelmed with calls reporting illegal gatherings and block parties – we just had a shooting/killing at a funeral wake yesterday – and on the news right now is a piece on how a group of about 11 people came into a restaurant and attacked the teenage server when she told them that state restrictions do not allow that. Despite that I can’t see why 20 to 30 thousand drunk football fans could possibly be an issue.

      Guess the state and city have decided that a certain level of infection is acceptable in the pursuit of economic stability and keeping an NFL team in town.

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  31. rebate456 says:

    This is what we’re fighting peeps. Obama was this close – THIS CLOSE – to slipping America into the new world order. He had the infrastructure, he had the players, the masses were compliant and asleep. Davos 2021 is the date and Hillary was supposed to do the finishing touch. They were THIS CLOSE. Soros was ready to receive America with open arms. America would have been lost for good and the one world everything would have begun. I believe that God raised up Donald Trump to stop them, because it’s not time yet. Sundance’s mission is a large piece of God’s plan, not man’s. Give God the glory for giving us a reprieve.

    Davos

    i

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I do think that the One Worlder dicktators would be biting off a bit more than they could readily chew were they to try and absorb the US into their dream scheme. There’d be plenty of consumptive parasites, domestic and imported, who’d welcome the New World Larder with open arms, hands and mouths, but there’d be a helluva lot of grit and gristle who’d stick in their throats.

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  32. Fools Gold says:

    Dang guys son just took a photo of a cougar toting one of his chickens. He’s out hunting him now with an AR. Very rare in TN.

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  33. Sentient says:

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    • Margot says:

      Why should this surprise anyone? Hunter Thompson said it best, and I will not quote him here due to the content, but anyone can look it up. It perfectly describes the media (press):

      It begins with this sentence, if you’d like to do a search: “The press is a gang of cruel fa—ts.”

      That is the media, and that is why they ignore the execution of a child, because that is who they are. Never forget it. They are worthy of our contempt.

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  34. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You. Also, we pray for Angels to protect and support our Sundance as he works for justice and peace.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  35. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  36. David says:

    Hello American friends, I think I had enough politics for today. Here is am amazing talent from Israel. It’s in English. What’s more amazing is that she is 12 years old. Enjoy!

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  37. Sharing with Everyone..

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  38. thrawlbrauna says:

    You are so over the target… you are getting massive attacks on twitter and even TGP.. keep it up sir!

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