Senator Lindsay Graham Releases FBI Talking Points for SSCI Briefing February 14, 2018 – Graham Positioned to Defend SSCI…

Today Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsay Graham released a set of talking points [full pdf belowAND here] from the FBI during a briefing on February 14, 2018 to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

The unknown FBI briefer is informing the SSCI about the reliability of Chris Steele’s primary sub-source, and whether he agrees with the Dossier content & conclusions:

At first blush the impression from the release; and indeed the expressed position as outlined by Graham in the release; is that some unknown entity from the FBI was misleading the SSCI in February of 2018 about Christopher Steele and the perspective of his primary sub-source. However, there’s a deeper story.

Within the release it must be noted the date of the briefing material is February 14, 2018. The unknown FBI briefer is saying, in essence, the primary sub-source doesn’t dispute the Dossier material. Obviously this position is demonstrably false given how the PSS said the Dossier was full of “rumor”, “gossip”, “innuendo” and “bar talk”.

The FBI briefer is misleading the Senate and so today we see the angry position expressed by Graham as he reveals this misleading briefing. However, five days prior to this briefing, on February 9, 2018, the text messages between SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner and Chris Steele’s lawyer, Adam Waldman, were released. This frames the accurate context to consider the position of the SSCI and FBI briefer on Feb 14, 2018.

Yes, the FBI briefer was misleading the SSCI… However, the SSCI wanted to be mislead. This is how plausible deniability is built into the process. The SSCI was conducting an investigation of Trump-Russia; if we are honest the SSCI was participating in a process to weaponize the committee to advance a narrative against the interests of the Trump administration; therefore the SSCI and FBI briefer were aligned in common interest.

Lindsay Graham’s outrage over the misleading briefing is nothing more than an attempt to retroactively cover for the SSCI as they continued their role in the plot to remove President Trump throughout 2018 and 2019.  Graham is taking the purposefully built plausible deniability, assembled in 2018, and using it as a distraction today in 2020.

Graham knows the FBI lied, this is not a revelation. The FBI supported the DOJ letter July 12, 2018, that mislead the FISA Court five months after this misleading SSCI briefing. The current level of Graham outrage is ridiculous when considering he could have asked these same questions in April when the DOJ-NSD letter was released.

Who was the FBI official who reviewed the July 12th letter and supported its conclusions? The most likely answer is the same FBI official who did the SSCI briefing on Feb 14th. This is not rocket science dot-connecting.

The FBI Washington Field Office (WFO) conducted the interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source in Jan, March and May 2017. Yet I’ll bet you a donut it was not the FBI-WFO who was briefing congress…. there’s another layer of plausible deniability. This is how the system is set-up. Today, Lindsay Graham is playing an outrage game. Where was this outrage in April?

Here’s the full briefing material [Original pdf Here]


This is all connected back to FBI SSA Brian Dugan’s work.  The briefing was a way for the SSCI to establish plausible deniability five days after Vice-Chairman Mark Warner’s covert text messages were made public.

This is why the focus on the story behind SSCI Security Director James Wolfe is critical.  All of these granular machinations are connected to the objective to remove President Donald Trump.  The SSCI was supporting and coordinating with the special counsel.

It is all one team effort.

Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):

Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself.

Those interviews were a year before the Feb 14, 2018, FBI briefing outlined by Lindsay Graham today.

Those interviews were also 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC.   The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation.  Why?

Keep in mind this activity to support the Dossier and by extension the FISA application to the SSCI and FISC was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018 and briefed to congress in February 2018.  Jeff Sessions was Attorney General (firewalled), Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG (providing no special counsel oversight); Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.

Why would the FBI mislead the senate intelligence committee?  Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source?

This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.

In February and July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the SSCI and FISC and even went to far as to say the predicate was still valid.  Why?

It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.

In Feb-July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.

This SSCI briefing and FISC letter, justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant.

My research shows it was the full control by the special counsel at play.  They needed to protect evidence the Mueller team had already extracted from their fraudulent FISA authority.  That’s the motive.

In February of July 2018 if the FBI, DOJ-NSD or special counsel had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation.

The FBI and DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending.  The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the July 12, 2018, letter.

Remember, in December 2019 the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.

Both the February FBI briefing and the July DOJ letter are transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report.  Hence, the FISA court ordered  the DOJ to release the July letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.  Unfortunately the “congressional oversight” aspect was/is aligned with the scheme.

The FISA court was misled; the SSCI was willfully mislead; now everyone can see it.

The content of that FBI briefing and DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application.  The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree…. And yes, that is ongoing.

Lindsay Graham is still playing cover-up to protect the Senate.  Nothing more.

Graham could have demanded these same answers in April of this year.  He didn’t.

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292 Responses to Senator Lindsay Graham Releases FBI Talking Points for SSCI Briefing February 14, 2018 – Graham Positioned to Defend SSCI…

  1. TrappedinNY says:

    Fill his mailbox with a link to this article..MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD

    Liked by 5 people

  2. Bob says:

    Over and over again Sundance tells us that “James Wolfe exchanged 82 text messages with his reporter/girlfriend Ali Watkins” and that “the [Carter Page] FISA application is 83 pages with one blank page” so “the logical conclusion was that Wolfe text Ali Watkins 82 pictures of the application.”

    There’s just one problem.

    There are no intentionally blank pages.

    There are no intentionally blank pages in the first 83 pages of the FBI version of the Carter Page FISA (marked 17-cv-597(FBI) in the lower right hand corner).

    All pages contain content.

    Pages 1-53 are the application.
    Page 54 is the affidavit of the supervisory special agent.
    Pages 55-62 are the certifications.
    Page 63 is the signature of James Comey as FBI director.
    Page 64 is the approval.
    Page 65 is the signature of Sally Yates as deputy AG.
    Page 66 is a certificate of service.
    Pages 67-82 are the surveillance order.
    Page 83 is the signature page of Judge Rosemary Collyer.

    83 pages. None blank. None without meaningful content.

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    • starfcker says:

      What’s your point, Bob? The FBI agent made sure to document that is what Wolfe leaked..

      Liked by 5 people

      • AustinHoldout says:

        Maybe Dugan’s copy had a blank page as a “filler” to remind the person preparing the doc to add a completed Certificate or signature page when they received it, but it wasn’t removed That’s a common practice when preparing long documents. I usually handwrite what goes there on the blank page.


    • Beau Geste says:

      so, bob, which page do you think wolfe left out?
      or did he double-up two ‘short’ pages?
      I’ll bet the FBI did not subpoena the transmitted pages from the 23-year-old honeypot.


      • Bob says:

        I acknowledge, Sundance, that the Government’s reply to the defense sentencing memo in Wolfe’s guilty plea included as an exhibit an affidavit that discussed disclosure of “a FISA application.”

        It is not clear, however, that the FISA application at issue was the original Carter Page application, or that it was disclosed in document form (as opposed to merely having the contents leaked in conversation).

        Furthermore, I have a real problem with your repeated emphasis of 83-pages-with-one-blank. That’s such a demonstrably false claim (and one you have yet to acknowledge) that it casts significant doubt on the rest of your analysis.

        In particular, if Wolfe didn’t leak that FISA in its unredacted document form, then all the talk of leak tracers, and FBI investigation, and springing a trap on the SSCI is just smoke up our butts.


        • sundance says:

          Fuck off Bob, you are an idiot.

          There was only one FISA application that Dugan used as part of his investigation. Read the indictment.

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          • UniPartySlayer says:

            Sundance’s relentless pursuit of Truth along with his meticulous documentation over the last 4 years is IRREFUTABLE.



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          • Will Hunt says:

            Sundance doesn’t often weigh in on the comment thread but when he does it’s epic!!! and BTW GFY bob..

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        • Boots says:

          Standing with Sundance on this one “Bob”. Been reading his blog since Crayon Martin. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall reading your in depth investigation into that debacle. In fact, I don’t recall reading your in depth investigation into anything except to criticize 83 pages vs 82 pages.

          Now, I can be as smarmy, arrogant, offensive, aggressive, and obnoxious as anyone alive.
          But there’s one thing I’d never, ever do. That’s to call a man a liar in his own house. Not unless I was looking for a fight. And if I was, I’d make darn sure there was no one else in the house.

          This is the wrong house for that, “Bob”. This is Sundance’s house. Not yours.

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    • sundance says:

      Hey Bob, See pages 52 and 53 of the application dumbass !!!

      Liked by 9 people

    • WhiteBoard says:


      so they not only did not release the original. they released the 3.17.17 requested and DID THE MATH that they were caught. Laundered it. and redacted all versions for the ‘day’ to make it look like NORMAL PRACTICES.

      this release pdj shows 83. the leaker 83 (1 blank). the Mueller release (not original, its the 3/17/17 request PRIOR to TRACER blank page insertion)

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      • Newhere says:

        Whitehead this is a little confusing but I think the upshot is that Bob’s belaboring a pissant point.

        Back in July 2018 SD first drew attention to the virtual certainty that Wolfe had leaked the FISA application; SD noted a blank page to explain how an 83-page document could be transmitted in only 82 text pictures.

        So this “gotcha” about technically no individual “blank page” is quibbling over an irrelevancy. The point is that there was enough intentionally blank space that the 83-page FISA App could have been transmitted in 82 pictures.

        Besides, speculation is now MOOT because SD’s original hunch was confirmed by subsequent revelations. The Gov’s Reply explicitly names the FISA application as the leaked material, and it was already disclosed that the material was linked through the 82 pictures.

        CASE CLOSED.

        Beyond that, the “blank page” kerfuffle has nothing at all to do with whether the versions of FISA App released to SSCI in March 2017 and released under FOIA in July 2018 are the same. As Whitehead explains, they are the same. The March 17, 2017 date is right there in the FOIA release.

        The relevant question is why would the DOJ fulfill the FOIA using an “equity” of the leak investigation (ie, the March 2017 SSCI transmittal, which was Brian Dugan’s “equity”) and then append subsequent renewals thereto. Why not release the latest FISA App, which would include earlier versions that were the basis for the latest renewal. More pointedly: why try to obfuscate the fact of using the “Dugan equity” with date redactions?

        This is what SD means when he says that understanding the Wolfe leak makes everything reconcile.

        There may be room to debate WHY the SCO released that particular version. But SD’s evidence has eliminated room for debate that (1) In 2017 Wolfe leaked a FISA application via 82 pictures by phone to Ali Watkins, right after the SSCI received a FISA App from DOJ; (2) SSCI would not have known at the time that it received the FISA App as part of Dugan’s leak investigation; and (3) Main Justice (specifically, the Special Counsel’s Office) was handed the results of Dugan’s investigation in 2018, and soon after decided to fulfill a FOIA request using Dugan’s “leak tracer” version of the FISA App, ie, the same one that had been transmitted to SSCI in March 2017. All of those things happened.

        The million dollar question is why did the SCO want to release the version of the FISA App obtained from the file on the leak investigation? SD’s reasoned hypothesis is that the SCO used the FOIA request as a vehicle to push the leaked material into the public domain as cover for media operatives who’d already long had it illegally from the Wolfe leak.

        The amount of blank space in the doc that Wolfe sent in pictures to a reporter is so utterly irrelevant.

        I’m piling on here to try to spell this out because it’s so easy for even regular readers to lose the thread. Please let’s all try to keep up before wasting time pushing serious-sounding challenges to SD’s research that don’t take adequate account of all the moving pieces and revelations.

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        • Newhere says:

          To be clear, I don’t mean to suggest that SD’s conclusion on WHY the Special Counsel’s office released the March 2017/SSCI FISA App through a 2018 FOIA release is merely one among several viable hypotheses — to the contrary it is the ONLY explanation that reconciles the currently known facts.

          My objective was to counter Bob’s loose challenge to SD’s explanation by precisely distinguishing irrefutable facts from inferences. Maybe a better way to put it is that SD makes a necessary inference in positing that the Special Counsel’s motive has been to cover the tracks of illegal actions and ill-gotten information among key players. The inference is “necessary” because it is the only way to reconcile the actions and timeline SD has painstakingly assembled.

          This seems important because it seems SD is (for now) zooming in on the Wolfe clean-up operation to show how it works, that way when we step back and apply the new insight — it’s obvious and everywhere. The “necessary inference” excludes all others.

          Just trying to help track the threads. Not trying to bungle them, so hopefully I haven’t!

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          • nimrodman says:

            Newhere – your explanation of one single point makes your entire treatise worthwhile for me to have read:

            …as cover for media operatives who’d already long had it [the leaked version of the FISA application] illegally from the Wolfe leak” …

            I’d never grasped that point, having not read Sundance’s posts with sufficient concentration at times

            Thank you

            you don’t sound so “new” to me

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    • jediphantom says:

      It looks as though we are going to need those GANG OF 8 materials to be brought forth via “THE SATCHEL OF DOOM” to increase the pressure a bit.



  3. If they/he was honest, they’d name the agent, all the agents involved…they are still covering as if they deserve some sort of cover. Also, why isn’t ANY enterprising reporter asking Graham why he hasn’t publicly asked his colleague, Warner, about his relationship with Waldman, Wolfe, etc. Why no ethics complaint?

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  4. starfcker says:

    Those clowns really thought Weissman and company were going to get the job done (indict the President or reveal sufficient damaging information for a successful impeachment). They’ve been winging it ever since, and the balance of power has shifted considerably. President Trump’s re-election will be the game changer.

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  5. joseywalesandtenbearsbarandgrill says:

    I despise Lindsey Graham as much as anybody in congress. Hopefully if they ever buried McCain they did so face down so Graham can still kiss his azz.

    Liked by 11 people

    • Old Dawg says:

      Hear, hear! He’s a complete fraud in every possible way.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Screaming Eagle says:

      Given Lindsay’s questionable proclivities, he’d be more likely to stop off at John’s for a “cold one”.


    • Deborah D says:

      Lindsey looks like he’s under stress. He’s all bloated (over-eating? drinking too much?) It truly is beyond me how these DC types can continue to lie, blow smoke and smile. How confusing it must be to be non-human that way. Bless our Sundance for his honestly and patriotism.

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  6. modspell says:

    Trump is all that stands between Pence and the presidency. Pray he lives.


  7. fred5678 says:

    This clown still has some very deep down feelings guiding his actions today:

    Liked by 7 people

    • fred5678 says:

      The video URL in quotes:


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    • grumpyqs says:

      Thank you Fred. It’s no wonder (now) why Sen Graham and NoName were such good “friends”; they had so much in common too! I see light and exposure coming his way very soon.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Justin Green says:

      Screw you, Graham.

      Don’t lecture us as you import hundreds of thousands of foreign workers to replace our college graduates who have ALREADY been ripped off by our American universities charging 10x what a BETTER degree costs overseas.

      Liked by 2 people

    • evergreen says:

      How well did Graham know Trump to be able to label him a “race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot”?

      When you level a charge like that, you’d better KNOW those to be true; otherwise, you’re a POS who is slandering another person.

      Ergo, Graham is a POS. End of story.

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  8. wvcoalman says:

    This continuous kabuki theater act by Graham (like Parakeet Head Gowdy on the Benghazi hearings), highlights one of the problems we have in the Uniparty Congress and Grubermint.

    When elections come around the “establishment”, who is embedded in their particular scheme for power and money, gives us choices between radical Marxist Democrats or a Democrat leaning “Republican squish” to vote for. The sad part, a majority of the voters with the Democrat/Republican blinders on, fall for it. The fake news propaganda perpetuates and nurtures this nonsense.

    Mitch “the KY Gobbler” McConnell and Ms. Lindsey are prime examples. Both are “CoC owned squishes” who are up for re-election this year. If you vote for the Marxist Democrat and they get control of the Senate, we lose. If McConnell and Graham are re-elected, we also lose, just not as fast. Great choice huh? However, mark my words when the President is re-elected, these globalist RINO’s will try to obstruct the America First Trump agenda every chance they get to make the President a “lame duck”.

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  9. Merkin Muffley says:

    Is there any Senator on that committee who will stand up to Graham???

    Liked by 1 person

  10. mtk says:

    Makes one wonder, “If the Senate, SSCI and FISC were being mislead/lied to by the FBI/DOJ in 2018.”

    It must also stand to reason, “The 2016/2017 Gang of Eight briefings were also built on the same foundations of lies.”

    One could argue that by accepting this built-in plausible deniability, the ownership of the willfull blindnesses ‘INTENT’ is pushed back a year earlier into the ‘Insurance Policy’ swampiness of Nov 2016 – Jan 2017.

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    • Debra says:

      Head of the gang of 8 during that time? So conveniently absent from so much scrutiny . . .

      Liked by 1 person

      • LafnH20 says:

        Debra, do you mean…

        Dianne “I got a Chinese Driver” Feinstein (for no particular reason /s) abdicated her position as Vice Chair (Gof8) on the Senate Intelligence Committee on Jan 3 2017. (Jan 3 2015 – Jan 3 2017) — Succeeded by one MARK WARNER, btw – and skipped on over and plopped herself down as Ranking Member of the Senate JUDICIARY Committee…. Jan 3 2017.

        Senate JUDICIARY Committee… 🤔


  11. coldanger says:

    I hardly think Graham was misled. He was an integral part of the coup, as were McConnell, Burr, McCain and others. He had one finger in his ear 🙉 while shaking hands with the devil. His passive-aggressive shtick is tired and pathetic, and he has no intention of jailing anyone of consequence or authority. Barr/Durham are the only option for any prosecutions, but that’s little comfort for the wronged. I’d love to see a total exoneratation for Gen Flynn, with a few of the Mueller cabal indicted/disbarred, starting with Van Grack…

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  12. The modus operandi of the Mueller investigative charade was to revitalize old investigative avenues having nothing to do with Team Trump (Manafort), intimidate Trump associates (Stone et. al.), use gestapo tactics and manufacture process crimes for the purpose of goading the president into firing them or pardoning someone so they could relive their Nixon / Watergate fantasies by fabricating an obstruction case.

    Just last week someone (I forget who – some NeverTrumper?) floated the desperate idea that Senate Republicans ought to approach the president and tell him he no longer has their support and must resign, which is why / how Nixon quit.

    Their main problem with that is that there ISN’T ANY FRIGGIN’ UNDERLYING CRIME HERE LADIES!

    Watergate started with a real burglary……the break-in really happened and it was done by republicans operatives.

    The closest thing they ever had against Donald Trump was the claim that the Russians stole some data (no credible evidence of that) and that Team Trump was somehow in a position to benefit from that theft (disproved by Mueller himself).

    President Trump kept feeding them the rope and they kept taking it, all the while making more and more desperate, unethical and patently ridiculous and ham-fisted claims (Jerome Corsi) until AG Barr gave the witch hunt the mercy killing it was begging for.

    So the reason they had to keep lying about the predicate was to continue the investigative charade and laying the bait that President Trump never took.

    As W.C. Fields famously said: “ You Can’t Cheat an Honest Man” . . and I believe the cabal is about to learn that America has elected a very, very honest man.

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    • An excellent synopsis.
      A point that is often overlooked: thank goodness Don McGahn advised President Trump not to fire anyone during the repeated provocations.
      The president had the wisdom and restraint to never take that bait.
      I remember well into the Mueller investigation, it dawned on me that President Trump must be an above board, honest guy, because if they ever found anything substantial, they would have shouted it with glee. I says to myself, “This guy is clean.”
      These government grifters can’t conceive of anyone getting rich by producing goods and services of value.

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  13. MACAULAY says:

    Thank you Sundancer for this wonderful detailed explanation which brings home to me the gravity of your efforts…and also your Sisyphean Task.

    It appears you have solved the plot and pointed to the 2 illegal acts (misrepresentations to the FISC and to the Senate Intelligence Committee—which prove the illegal conspiracy).

    And yet: it is so hard to understand—that’s your Sisyphean Task.

    I have kept my Honey up with your revelations, she is a Proud Deplorable too, but the only thing I have told her which comes through loud and clear is about how they interviewed the PSS who blew the Dossier up with things like Bar Talk, Gossip—and then the DOJ and FBI reported only that they found him Reliable.

    She saw that as fully a fraud, a lie and illegal as we all see Clinesmith doctoring a document to make it say exactly the opposite of what it said–to be illegal.

    Point: It’s gonna be so hard to make people understand a conspiracy so vast that it operates smoothly even as the conspirators change over a long time range.

    And, as you kind of indicate, everybody is set to go “Seargent Shultz” just like Rosenstein and Yates just did. Mueller is not competent. How long will it take to get to Weissman and Boente?


    And yes the time drags on. We found out this morning that the FBI lied to the Senate Committee. But, it took two years—-and even now, we didn’t find out WHO did the lieing.,,or why it took 2 years.

    Bless you. And thank you. I still have Hope. Wonder if Sisyphus still does.

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    • deeperinfo says:

      Good point: focus on the provable documented serious crimes in explaining to others.

      I see laying out each demonstrably provable illegal act as akin to laying stepping stones to cross a stream. While Sundance builds The Bridge, we can be making our own stepping stones to lead a few others across the water.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “Point: It’s gonna be so hard to make people understand a conspiracy so vast that it operates smoothly even as the conspirators change over a long time range.”

      Especially when the MSM has so much to lose, because they are responsible for spreading and perpetuating the lies of the Coup participants – when the MSM wasn’t making up lies themselves.

      The only News cable channels with a National audience that I think would report that are One America News and Newsmax.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      You pointed out the PULLEY to get the ROCK UP.

      you said your Honey immediately understood that the PSS said it was FALSE INFO, and that the FBI team knew and kept pushing it.

      That Alone is Enough. – the stuff that confuses people beyond that matters only ONCE THEY CATCH UP, and if never who cares.

      the PSS was misrepresented to surveil a president is enough to lead to BRANDING the Mueller Attack as and ATTACK on the vote.

      Attack on the vote

      Attack on the vote

      Attack on the vote

      POTUS is good at RALLY talking – Based on your Honest feedback – the Rally cry should FRAME what STICKS – the Fabrication to the Court was an ATTACK ON THE VOTE.

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      • Susan Harms says:

        I see you are into cryptic comments again Whiteboard. Is it possible for you to formulate a cogent sentence. I think you may have valid points to make but we cant understand your cryptic comments.

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          thank you Susan – you are my barometer.

          MACAULAY is making a first hand testimony of what Sticks from within this hole Maze of Legal Fiasco regariding Russia and Impeachment.

          He testified that his Honey (gf) could get the part that the Primary Source admits his words were GOSSIP and that the FBI mislead the court with his word.

          So if we want to Reach the most people possible – we use what sticks –

          and it APPEARS that what sticks is:

          – the FBI Attached our VOTE by fabricating and investigation to REMOVE our VOTE for President (and they can do it to whichever party wins).

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            Attacked our vote ^^ not Attached.

            In summary, to inform people – you say “the FBI/DOJ system attacked our vote by fabricating a source’s information, into an investigation, that was brought to impeach an elected president ( Attack the vote and remove the elected president)”


            • regitiger says:

              I’ll got with this:

              the deep state is cheating your vote out of the election.

              simple…90 percent of people understand that.

              the other 10 percent are just to immovable to acknowledge to wear a jacket in the cold.

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    • mthdancer says:

      Sundance reminds us to not give into negative thoughts of failure, so I point out that the internet’s idioms online dictionary defines “a Sisyphean task is a pointless, fruitless, and unrewarding task that must be repeated over and over again; and endless task”.

      We are Paul Revere and we are up to the task.


    • LafnH20 says:


      The Senate committee, imho, wanted to be lied to. (Preferably under oath and on camera.)
      It gives them the opportunity, if confronted or, the personal need to blame others for their complicity arises, to shout, “We’re gonna get to the bottom of this!”
      And back to square one we go… Rinse repeat.
      Tick Tock, if you like.

      Sisyphus, had no help; his fate was sealed. A rock, a mountain and eternity…
      That’s it.
      With the recent “Everybody Knows” post by Sundance, and the accompanying 👍pic, I believe he (Sundance) now has “Support” from above. Very significant support, at that.
      Something, Sisyphus, lacked.

      Sundance, also has, US!!!

      “It isn’t the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out, it’s the pebble in your shoe.”

      – Muhammad Ali

      Stay focused everyone.
      Ignore the pebbles.

      “It’s forward we look – And forward we MUST GO!”

      “There is a Mystery that many call God, Manifesting as Universal Love, a set of Laws, and a Great Process. That Process works through each and all of us, and that Process is perfect. As we discover this fundamental truth in the journey of our lives, we find that wherever we step, the path appears beneath our feet.”


      Keep Pushing!
      🇺🇸-TRUMP 2020-🇺🇸

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  14. bowljoman says:

    I gave Graham the nick name ‘lips’ back when he spent most of his time trying to convince the world Saddam may be working with alqaeda

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  15. lolanonni says:

    “Lindsay Graham’s outrage over the misleading briefing is nothing more than an attempt to retroactively cover for the SSCI as they continued their role in the plot to remove President Trump throughout 2018 and 2019. Graham is taking the purposefully built plausible deniability, assembled in 2018, and using it as a distraction today in 2020.”

    This is Graham’s equivalent to the Susan Rice email on January 5, 2017. He, like Susan, wanted their behinds covered. Whether he wins or loses the coming elections, that seat is as good as being occupied by a D.

    Liked by 3 people

    • AustinHoldout says:

      I’ve been predicting for years now that Brennan and Obama orchestrated this whole thing with the intention that if the plot was exposed, the FBI would be the fall guys. Comey was too blinded by his own ego to see that his agency were the designated patsies. That theory seems to be starting to show signs of being correct. The various entities and actors seem to be aligning around “the buck stops with the FBI”. Maybe we’ll get to find out if Comey’s “higher loyalty” is to the Communist Cause or his own ego. .

      Liked by 2 people

    • honornc1 says:



  16. ccrabill says:

    Lindsey Graham has never dona a thing of any substance to expose the conspirators. He’s up to his eyeballs in Obamagate.

    Liked by 5 people

  17. Charlie says:
    This article discusses Pres. Trumps’s recent remarks that you might not see him much.
    Pray for him and for Sundance through this.

    Liked by 3 people

  18. rufnekreject says:

    I’ve only been following CTH for a couple of months. So grateful to SD and the comments from others.
    I’m steps behind understanding this whole thing, but light years ahead of the public. The greatest threat to our republic, in my opinion, is apathy.

    Liked by 4 people

  19. Dave Ryan says:

    In the following paragraph are the dates a mistake? ‘Keep in mind this activity to support the Dossier and by extension the FISA application to the SSCI and FISC was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018 and briefed to congress in February 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General (firewalled), Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG (providing no special …’
    Briefed to congress 5 months before it was written?


  20. Dave Ryan says:

    In the following paragraph are the dates a mistake? ‘Keep in mind this activity to support the Dossier and by extension the FISA application to the SSCI and FISC was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018 and briefed to congress in February 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General (firewalled), Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG (providing no special …’
    Briefed to congress 5 months before it was written?


  21. kleen says:

    Sundance, why LG released these docs now? Was he briefed by you? (he picked his side, “positioned to defend SSCI” as in, a message to you and us?) Did someone inform him about the material you shared? Is that why he is getting ahead of Aug 15th briefings you will release? Exposing SSCI?


    • TarsTarkas says:

      ‘why LG released these docs now?’

      Damage control. Trying to retake control of the narrative. ‘I was lied to, I’m angry, I am determined to get to the bottom of this!’

      Go lick a filled bedpan, Senator. You are either stupid or complicit. Either way you’ve proven you’re unfit for future public service. Resign and let a real patriot take your place.


  22. TrappedinNY says:

    Why cant Weismann be arrested under that EO that was signed regarding treason and going against the US interests?? This guy has been involved in A LOT of shady stuff involving Dems and Clinton over the years…..BUT it seems to me that he’s really stepped in it now….

    Liked by 1 person

  23. kleen says:

    Sundance, did you hear about this?

    “There Were a Lot of Republicans Involved” – Steven Schrage – The Man Who Introduced Deep State Spy Stefan Halper to Carter Page Holds First Interview

    It’s up on GP, I was wondering if this has to do with with all the goodies about to be released?
    People speaking up and coming forward with information… Now? What’s so special about now? Does it have to do with your work and maybe Durham investigation being over?


  24. Socal Silent Majority says:

    Sundance, do you also believe the FISC was “mislead” just like the SSCI was “mislead” given the relationship with Strozk and Judge Contreras? And also the judge’s abrupt recusal/removal.


  25. kaste668 says:

    I keep thinking of Atlas Shrugged, when near the end Dagney realized the people in power didn’t care about the country. They cared only about their own wealth and power. They were willing to let the country be destroyed and divide it up for their own fiefdoms.


    • TarsTarkas says:

      We are living Atlas Shrugged, the updated version.

      This isn’t the first go-around for this scenario either. Rome fell for much the same reasons.

      Liked by 1 person

  26. ihaterats says:

    I cannot read another syllable of this…this … crapola. Miss Linda’s head and hands should be poking thru a stock in the town square. BYOTomatoes.

    Sent from my iPhone



  27. freepetta says:

    Mrs. Senator McCain Graham is nothing but a phony. He has been in CYA mode for 4 years!


    • kleen says:

      He was counting on Dems impeaching POTUS so he could skate free.
      Now he is in a tough position having to pretend to fight against the crooks but he can’t. He is one of the crooks. So he needs to talk the talk and write some letters.

      Liked by 3 people

  28. RAM says:

    We have the very best Senate (and House) (and Supreme Court) (and bureaucracy) money can buy. Too bad that, when making their calculations, they disregard all the tax money they steal. They owe us taxpayers a big chunk of their time and effort!
    Some people have tried to make the case that societies that abandon God can still be moral. Not so. Worshipping ourselves or the State is toxic.

    Liked by 1 person

  29. kleen says:

    POTUS’s EO yesterday was the biggest F-you I have ever seen in my life.

    He gave the swamp the Biggest F-you evah!


    Liked by 3 people

    • RAM says:

      The Feds always have excess money, so diversion for a good purpose can happen. This latest one is cool because
      1. court actions to stop it appear to rob the unemployed.
      2. it highlights the condition of Congress
      The earlier one to fund the Wall worked out nicely, combined with threatening Mexico into cooperating.


  30. Miles says:

    Sens. McCain and Graham had their claws deep into the stacks of greenbacks kicked back to them (and other equally corrupt Senate and House uniparty critters) by the uber corrupt Ukrainian honcho Poroshenko. No amount of current posturing can erase that fact which, at the time, earned McCain and Graham state medals from the tyrant.


  31. oldandtired says:

    The Judge was in on it, so was the supervisor of the FISC…..


  32. islandpalmtrees says:

    So, it appears that the FBI leadership was told No again on January 12, 2017 by the PSS, about one week after their own people wanted to close the investigation into General Flynn. Comey was in the middle of a bad month!

    The January 4 memo concluded with this paragraph: “The FBI is closing this investigation. If new information is identified or reported to the FBI regarding the activities of CROSSFIRE RAZOR, the FBI will consider reopening the investigation if warranted.”

    Yet, on that same day — Jan. 4, 2017 — Strzok instructed the FBI case manager handling CROSSFIRE RAZOR to keep the investigation open. “Hey don’t close RAZOR,” Strzok texted an unidentified individual.

    Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):

    “The Primary Sub-source also informed WFO Agent 1 that Steele tasked him/her after the 2016 U.S. elections to find corroboration for the election reporting and that the Primary Sub-source could find none. “


  33. kleen says:

    The beautiful part about Spygate is that it involved so many people and they are all exposed by now

    They were protected people who could’t have their cover blown(as leftists) but now are exposing themselves. It’s getting so hard for LG to keep pretending to be simply incompetent. He always fools his voters by pretending to have tried so hard but couldn’t get the job done.

    Think about how many people you thought were conservatives but lately came out of the closet as Biden Supporters? They will never get their credibility back to be a mouth piece on FOX misleading voters to vote for RINOs.

    We know who they are. Rick Wilson, Romney, Mike Lee, Amash, Cavuto, Wallace, Ben Shapiro, Bolton, Jim Mattis, Kelly and many others… they had me fooled before.

    The anti-Trump Republicans are really Democrats being used to promote RINOs. They have been for years.

    Pay attention, make a list and never forget. They pulled their own masks off.

    Liked by 1 person

  34. OldParatrooper says:

    Anybody heard anything about the first FISA application on Carter Page? The one that was submitted in late June or early July and was rejected? Since this was before the Steele Dossier was published, what justification did the FBI use?


    • deeperinfo says:

      A lie about Page’s prior contacts with Russians in 2013 being reason to suspect he was a foreign agent, when he was actually cooperating with the CIA.
      It appears that Clinesmith altered an e responding to an inquiry as a follow up to this claim. Someone had doubts.
      Clinesmith was covering up.
      Who made the false allegation in the first approved FISA app and was in in the preceding rejected app???


  35. beach lover says:

    As if we don’t have enough against Graham… I still can’t get over his constant statements that Russia was indeed involved in interfering in our election in 2016. I just want to throw something at the TV every time he says it.


  36. Heartland says:

    The level of arrogance with the ruling elites is truly unbelievable.

    It is obvious in their minds they are superior to the majority of Americans not in “The Club”

    Therefore, they deserve to be our masters and take care of us while lining their pockets and protecting their own.

    Fortunately for us, President Trump slogged through the swamp with SD and staff on his flank.

    It is amazing the corruption that exists.

    Even more amazing is there are still Patriots willing against odds, to re-charge Bunker Hill.

    Know your efforts are appreciated, and know when you give the word, we will cover your flank


  37. islandpalmtrees says:

    Yates knew what the FBI knew when she raced over to the White House on Jan. 26 to warn Trump’s general counsel that Flynn was “compromised.”. You can almost hear the wheels turning. None of our investigations have turned-up anything we can use on General Flynn. The only things we have are the Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799, as Biden suggested on January 5th, 2017 and the interview done by the FBI on General Flynn without his knowledge.

    In effect, Yates had nothing on Flynn when she raced to the White House. So what happen to President Trumps lawyer?

    Liked by 1 person

  38. LafnH20 says:

    FISC orders the current DOJ to release the July 12, 2018, letter. ✔

    Mueller Special Council ends March 2019. ✔

    Wouldn’t the actual “Approval” of the release of the July 12, 2018 letter have been done by “The Special Council”? (sans mueller)

    “The Special Council” (sans mueller) WAS THE DOJ…. Right?

    “The Special Councel” (sans mueller) TOOK OVER the Current DOJ…. Right?

    The “DOJ”, we “THOUGHT” we knew, CEASED TO EXIST during the “Special Council”. (sans mueller)… Right?

    Wasn’t that the whole REASON for “The Special Council” (sans mueller)…
    To Take over The DOJ?

    Why don’t we just stop referring to The “DOJ” as The “DOJ” during “The Special Council” (sans mueller) time frame and call it what it was…

    The (U-DOJ)

    The Usurping of The Judiciary Agency within the United States Government, in an attempt to remove a Duly Elected President.

    There’s a Word for THAT!!


  39. islandpalmtrees says:

    Get to know Steven Schrage

    Campaigns on the World Stage: Madeleine Albright and Vin Weber
    14 July 2016

    11 July 2016 – Keynote address as part of the 2016’s Race to Save the World conference.

    Madeleine Albright (Former U.S. Secretary of State)

    Vin Weber (Republican Party strategist and former Congressman)

    Chair : Steven Schrage (University of Cambridge)

    Liked by 1 person

  40. Joshua2415 says:

    “The briefing was a way for the SSCI to establish plausible deniability five days after Vice-Chairman Mark Warner’s covert text messages were made public.”
    So assuming the leak of the Mark Warner text messages came from Team Mueller, was their release a message being sent that if they went down they were taking the SSCI with them?


    • LafnH20 says:

      Joshua2415, that could very well be.

      “The Special Council” (sans mueller) was in place to further the goal of “Removing of The President of the United States.”

      Whatever the reason for the warner texts, imho, it was to further that goal.

      Everything the (U-DOJ) did was to further that goal.

      Everything went thru “The Special Council”…

      Everything… Imho
      That was it’s purpose.


    • jebg46 says:

      You all need to remember that Brennan went to Harry Reid who was dem chair of SSCI sometime mid August 2016 so some SSCI members were in the beginnings of Crossfire Hurricane and just 2 days later they opened on Crossfire Razor on Flynn. Brennan didn’t brief the gang of 8 all at the same time because they had to hide it all from Nunes.

      The SSCI was all in from the beginning, August 2016.


  41. Bud White says:

    Well, Ive read through all the new, pertinent info on the site and watched SD destroy some clown, deep state shill named Bob and I’ve now read through all your posts.

    Now I want somebody here to explain why these latest revelations along with Trumps latest comments and actions should make me actually believe that this entire fustercluck is going to be exposed by Barr/Durham and justice is going to be brought to the evil scumbags. BEFORE THE ELECTION.

    And for the love of civility, please don’t post some random Bible verse or a Video from Credence as your answer.

    Somebody lay out why any of us should actually think that the poop is really going to hit the fan for these evil pukes.


    • LafnH20 says:

      If something that has been denied to have never happened (or ever existed) can be brought the the awareness of enough Americans and they realize they Have Been PLAYED… that epiphany may raise doubts about the validity of much more that has been “Reported” to have “Never Happened”.

      Keep your eye on the prize… ✌

      🇺🇸-TRUMP 2020-🇺🇸

      How do you eat an elephant??


      Liked by 1 person

    • iswhatitis says:

      Bud White says: “
      Now I want somebody here to explain why these latest revelations along with Trumps latest comments and actions should make me actually believe that this entire fustercluck is going to be exposed by Barr/Durham and justice is going to be brought to the evil scumbags. BEFORE THE ELECTION.

      Somebody lay out why any of us should actually think that the poop is really going to hit the fan for these evil pukes.

      I can’t be the one to explain that to you; because that isn’t my view of things.

      What I think is that WE, the Voters, need to coalesce around supporting President Trump and as many down-ticket candidates as possible.

      If that comes to fruition, then I’ll be of the mind that the “poop” is going to “hit the fan”.

      If it doesn’t come to fruition, I don’t expect that fan to get hit much; although I will certainly be glad if it does.

      IOW, in my view, this is bigger than “Trump” and/or “Barr” and/or “Durham”, et al. We the people need to step up for this one. This isn’t a “I voted for my President, now I get to forget about it for 4 years” election. It’s an “all hands on deck” election, and I hope that’s what we see.

      Liked by 3 people

      • zorrorides says:

        The elements of defeating RINOs in primaries has a very high degree of difficulty. The field of voters is hard to motivate. But we can do it when Donald Trump decides to help. When our VSG decides to join us in defeating incumbents, incumbents will be defeated.

        When might that be? Looks like the earliest would be midterm elections in 2022.

        Will 2024 bring us a MAGA presidential nominee who desires Donald Trump to be his or her primary advisor and mentor? That’s when we’ll have DJT’s shockwaves to help us replace the Republican establishment, and half the Democrats too!

        I have dreams of a glorious and righteous America!

        Liked by 2 people

      • Bud White says:

        This plan is playing into the deep state trap.
        The election will be fraught with fraud. The deep state will concoct and find any and all ways, excuses and BS to stall the outcome or just flat out steal it. These scum are desperate. They will do anything they can to delay it past Jan 21 so Pelosi can become President. Anything it takes. Anything. Trump cannot take that chance.

        This whole mess has to be revealed BEFORE THE ELECTION. PERIOD.

        The rest is just coffee shop BS and warm, fuzzy thoughts.


        • iswhatitis says:

          Bud White says: “This whole mess has to be revealed BEFORE THE ELECTION. PERIOD. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS GETS RESOLVED.

          I’m not as astute as you; therefore I cannot proclaim what is the one-and-only true way (variation of No true Scotsman?) that things must happen or it’s just, “coffee shop BS and warm, fuzzy thoughts”.

          I am astute enough to know that whatever happens is what will happen, regardless of my or another’s proclamations here.


    • deeperinfo says:

      Why would the dems slander, insult and demean AG Barr so aggrressively if he was only going to appply bondo? It would only be human for him to have a bit of an attitude and not want to let them get away with it, and he certainly acknowledged that the elecetion could get the investigation quashed.

      My greatest hope is when I put myself in Durham’s shoes. Unless he is completely corrupt or balckmailed, this is far an beyond the absolute best case a career prosecutor could wish for: unraveling a plot to illegally unseat a President. Multiple clearly guilty violators are lined up to be pushed into plea bargains and testify against superiors.

      What I don’t know if exactly what hard evidence there is to show how the pieces of seemingly disconnected crimes were coordinated by the lead conspirators.

      We will know if the plea baragins are a slap-on-the-wrist or have actual meat on the bones.

      If he has caught them in High Crimes, undermining a duly elected President, lying to the FISA Court and jeopardizing National Security, why would an honest man ever want to look the other way and let them continue?

      Yes, it comes down to the integrity and competency of government attorneys. That thought does not inspire confidence. However, Durham has the opportunity to be know as the man of integrity who saed the Republic. If it was up to me, I’d hang all the guilty and take my chances with the Black Hat destroying me and my family. Sometimes you have to make a choice. A hope Durham has the solid evidence to force that decision.

      OK, I’m a skeptical optimist, but I keep thinking of all the clearly documented felonies and “the shoe on the other foot” the access to NSA dtdabase


      • Bud White says:

        I’ve tried to be optimistic. We’re coming to the end of the road, Slick.
        Barr and Durham are running out of time. Purposely or not is the question.
        Either way, it’s not looking good.


  42. biff0101 says:

    I see more Lawfare type trolls starting to pop in and out of here more often today! D-Day is getting close so we must be over the target and these arrogant assholes are getting nervous!


  43. Tom22ndState says:

    As soon as I heard the shrill call of “they ought to be in jayule” from Ms lindsay I knew that he eas going to play the fool. He hasn’t surprised me once. Anyone who’d cover for the SSCI is in fact of the swamp.

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  44. USA Citizen says:

    Joe Biden is not fit to lead. The Democrat Party is using Joe Biden even though he’s so Senile that he isn’t allowed to leave his basement. How can any Democrat vote for a man with Alzheimer’s disease to be a President of the USA??? It’s horrible! Joe Biden should be in a nursing home, not running for President. If you love America and want our country to continue to succeed and be the greatest country on earth, then definitely vote for President Donald Trump who did a great job in 4 years for this country the best of any former Presidents. If the Democrats win, our country will be destroyed, because of its leadership. (Joe Biden) Remember this while you are voting. You know China wants to take over our country. The Democrat Party hates President Trump so much, they will do anything, even sacrifice the USA to China just to stop President Trump from winning November 3rd. Don’t let the Democrat Party and Joe Biden destroy America and hand it over to China. Vote for President Donald J. Trump November 3rd and keep our country free, safe and working for everyone.


  45. hawkins6 says:

    “Yes, the FBI briefer was misleading the SSCI… the SSCI wanted to be mislead. This is how plausible deniability is built into the process..”

    sundance made a cogent case of this complicity long ago and the increasing evidence since then and the CYA actions of Caretaker Graham add even more confirmation. The Waldman–Warner exchanges are engulfed in smoke and fire IMO but he seems to be ignoring them or pretending not to know.

    But how long will the miscreants in the FBI like Comey and McCabe that allegedly participated in this Coup be content to take the full blame and the fall alone rather than implicate their fellow conspirators and criminals from other agencies and the allegedly innocent, duped Senate players?

    If “Jim and Andy” were indicted, then it might motivate them to sing for mercy. But if only a damning report is released they will all play their part.

    Liked by 1 person

  46. evergreen says:

    Remember back…
    The briefing for Trump included the Golden Showers Dossier because “they” wanted Trump to know that certain rumors were in the possession of the media and that they may at some point report them. The briefing was to alert Trump to this fact and to assure him that the dossier was investigated and found to be not substantiated. How ironic that Trump is being told that rumors of golden showers were found to be not true. Well, duh. But, also, they reported to the incoming chief executive that the dossier was BS.


  47. trialbytruth says:

    SD’s site his rules to break. I have rules in my house I break them when they need to be broken


  48. T2020 says:

    Graham is FO


  49. shipley130 says:

    Only one solution…the RNC supports different candidates for the next several elections that what are sitting now.


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