The Truth Doesn’t Care About Your Feelings – The Big Ugly…

Do not misinterpret anger for defeatism.  Truth is the fuel for cold anger, and it’s time everyone begins accepting some painful truths.

What some have called “Spygate” is not a frozen moment in time or a set of dates on a calendar with a beginning and an end.  Spygate was the originating process to ensure the DC system did not experience the disruption carried by Donald John Trump; but it was only the originating process….

….The process of opposition against Donald Trump is a continuum.

Those who use DC for influence and affluence control the mechanisms within the self-actuating system. This includes both Democrats and Republicans as they both feed from the same trough.  In the effort to remove Donald Trump, both wings of the uniparty bird were aligned with an identical purpose; Democrats carrying out their effort openly, and the republican elements operating covertly as to retain the DC premise.

Specifically, one common misconception is thinking the Mueller special counsel was an outcome of an action by President Trump when he fired former FBI Director James Comey.  This is false.  The special counsel process was a continuum in the effort to remove the threat that Donald Trump represented back in the early primary days of 2016.  The system, writ large, was aligned with this purpose.

There would have been a special counsel investigating the nonsense around ‘Trump-Russia’ regardless of Comey being fired. The special counsel was always part of the plan.

In October 2016 Deputy Attorney General John Carlin, in charge of the National Security Division of the DOJ bailed out of the effort after misleading the FISA court on their surveillance activity and setting up the introduction of the FISA warrant against Carter Page.  Carlin was replaced by a more committed traveler/ideologue named Mary McCord.

With Mary McCord in place to continue the DOJ-NSD aspects to the resistance and removal effort, the DOJ and FBI simply continued the process after the November 2016 election.  Internally all of the officials, essentially lawyers, within the DOJ-NSD were carrying out the removal objective and cleverly attempting to cover their tracks.

We see the creation in plausible deniability with the use of Bruce Ohr as a bridge between the politically corrupt DOJ-NSD and the politically corrupt FBI.  Ohr was carrying the messages from outside the system (Chris Steele) into the system. This was his function.

Everyone knew what Ohr’s mission was.  Anyone today, like Sally Yates, who claims they had no idea what the #4 official was doing is simply lying.  That is part of the plausible deniability part. It was set up that way.  Everyone knew what to expect, everyone knew the goals and objectives and every part of the process was compartmentalized to create these functional denials in case anything went sideways; or if the objective failed.

Andrew Weissmann was inside this DOJ-NSD system and he was a primary participant in transferring the spygate operation into the special counsel.  Again, it’s one long continuum.  Tashina Gauhar was the internal tool who had the objective to facilitate the effort and block any DOJ leadership effort that might disrupt the goal.  She too did her job very well.

This is where it must be accepted the DOJ-NSD was the legal side of the usurpation effort.  Everyone at the top three levels inside the system was participating.  Some of them are still there despite the primary agents leaving.

The special counsel then became the continuation of the process.  Once in place it was the special counsel who ran the show from Main Justice.  Additional operatives were brought in to coordinate the plan.  Pictured group below:

No action took place inside Main Justice that was not controlled by this group. Nothing.

When congress was battling for information, it was the special counsel who held control. Nothing was ever released without the special counsel releasing it.  Nothing was ever redacted, removed, or hidden without this group doing the functional work to control it.

This is critical because too many people have failed to accept that any information released from Main Justice was purposefully released as part of a strategy.  An example of that control is the release of the Carter Page FISA application in July 2018.  This is the group who released it.

When ever anyone was asking who was redacting the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages, it was this group.  They also removed some.

This group also controlled what Inspector General Michael Horowitz was allowed to review as part of any of his investigative inquiries.  Everything was labeled as part of the special counsel investigation…. that’s how they justified and got away with it.

Simultaneously this group was leaking to their friends and allies in the media to frame narratives beneficial to their effort.  The media were willing to assist their friends; and indeed, they are friends.  They run in the same circles, attend the same parties, go to the same functions and meet both personally and professionally.  This is the network.

To understand or expose the largest part of the corruption that exists within DC you need a thread, a fulcrum example to share that exposes how this allied network operates. That example is best evidenced, irrefutably, within the story of how Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Security Director James Wolfe was caught facilitating the objectives.

Wolfe was caught by an external investigator from the FBI Washington Field Office named Brian Dugan.  While the special counsel likely knew the periphery of what the Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) was doing (a leak investigation), it was not until the complete investigative file was turned over to the special counsel in January 2018 when the special counsel group grasped the totality of the issues involved.

Immediately the special counsel group formed an attack plan because the outcome of Dugan’s investigation was toxic to their interests in the early part of 2018.   The special counsel stripped the investigative file of the details damaging to their ongoing corrupt effort.  They could not allow the public to know the FISA application was in the hands of their media allies since March of 2017.  This story cuts to the heart of corrupt activity.

What the special counsel team did in order to protect their activity is incredible.  Only someone as arrogant and Machiavellian as Andrew Weissmann could have planned to carry out this scheme.   That’s why he is currently attacking – it’s fear.

The background of the Wolfe story is the thread that lays the corrupt special counsel activity naked to sunlight; and the Wolfe story exposes just how the process from early 2016 all the way through the impeachment effort of August 2019 was put together.  The ramifications are so significant that when you become aware of the Wolfe story everything reconciles.

Nothing is circumstantial, everything is exposed with direct evidence sworn under oath and subject to perjury.   Dig this story hard and everything reconciles.

Yes, FISA abuse is a big deal; yes, crossfire hurricane is a big deal; yes, the Carter Page FISA application is a big deal; yes, the Chris Steele aspect is a big deal; but in the final analysis that’s only the beginning of the effort.  Look at what the special counsel was doing from May 2017 to April 2019 and the scale of the effort is stunning.

Corrupt Republicans and Democrats worked together; the legislative branch worked in coordination with usurping elements inside the executive branch; the intelligence apparatus and the State Dept worked to assist both the legislative branch and the usurping agents inside the DOJ-NSD and Main Justice.

….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.

Who recommended ODNI Coats? Who recommended DOJ-NSD head lawyer Michael Atkinson, the top FISA review authority and counsel to the head of the NSD, transfer from the NSD to become Intelligence Community Inspector General? Both recommendations had purpose; look at what ICIG Atkinson did with NSC operative Alexander Vindman? These internal actions were not accidental.

That’s ugly.

That’s the truth.

That’s where cold anger gives way to righteous fury.

…and believe me DC is petrified of that story.

 

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1,788 Responses to The Truth Doesn’t Care About Your Feelings – The Big Ugly…

  1. GTOGUY says:

    New article in the Washington Examiner states that Brennan has agreed to an interview with Durham and that an attorney “with knowledge” says he is not a target of prosecutors, but merely a technical “witness”. What on earth does that mean?

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    • Scott Allan Cole says:

      Brennan is trying to get out front. Durham’s team does not leak. Examiner was referring to NPR, which had a “source.” The source is from Brennan’s team. Durham is building something similar to a RICO case… that type of case targets decision makers. Brennan is clearly a target.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Just remember that Flynn and President Trump were both told (falsely) at some point that they were not a target of investigations by the FBI / DOJ…..

      (i.e., that statement (not a target..” is meaningless if they’re trying to ensnare someone into lying to them)

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  2. Free Speech says:

    Real question is not who, but is his Presidency irreparably sabotaged? Is there still time to recognize who the traitor is and clean out or circumvent all the road blocks he/she has erected?

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    • somebodysgramma says:

      My guess is that the upcoming election (Trump2020 landslide) will determine that. This is why they are pushing mail-in voting so very hard (they can’t lose), including fomenting over a virus that has a death rate of less than annual flu/pneumonia cases. It’s a recipe: COVID/BLM/ANTIFA/SCHOOL CLOSURES/MASK MANDATES/BUSINESS CLOSURES + random acts of violence to scare the crap out of Americans who just want it to stop.

      Americans, however, are not fooled by any of this. Rather, they are leaving the Democrat party in droves, have put the Republicans on notice, AND they are buying more guns, ammo, food, and supplies than has ever been purchased in such a short amount of time in history. They are forming militias, defense training, and neighborhood watch groups. They are preparing for all hell to break lose around the election no matter who wins. That says to me…

      #coldfury in spades across the board… so should the Republican traitors be found out, along with their Democrat colleagues, there will be no mercy going forward. The frenzy they’ve whipped everyone into will have serious consequences. The Really Big Ugly is really the response to the Big Ugly that ALL elected officials need to think about. After all, WE ARE AMERICANS, not a bunch of pansies, and we’ve fought and won in most every world war and global conflict for a very long time. We’ve shed blood. We’ve buried our own. They (the political elite) have no idea what’s going to hit them in face. I pray for Repentance across the board that we might be saved from this conflict. The only way to avoid it is to lay down our arms and acquiesce… and that will never happen.

      Just my opinion based on observation.

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  3. Brian Carey says:

    “…DC is petrified of that story.”

    Human trafficking of children is the worst of the Epstein/Maxwell atrocities that has been ignored as of late as MSM concentrates on COVID-19 and the rioting and is the most horrific of all sins. Exposing the satanic child sacrifices that are international operations would not only petrify DC, but also shock the world into the realization that those in positions of power are selected and sufficiently compromised to destroy those who would expose them by all means necessary. President Trump has made it a priority of his to eliminate these criminals.

    ‘’First we ‘screw’ Flynn, then we ‘screw’ Trump.” Well, getting rid of Flynn for having lied to VP-elect Pence seemed easy enough, but taking out the President was not, and going after the President’s children was a declaration of war that failed and is yet ongoing in other matters. Shutting down the economy based on the design flaw of Neil Ferguson at the Imperial College worked, but who convinced the President to take this action? ‘Flattening the curve’ on hospitalizations was to have been a 2 week preventative action that flat-lined the economy and has been ongoing for 6 months now. VP Pence and his task force teamed up by Drs. Bird and Fauci has been a seemingly never-ending maelstrom of descent from which we never seem to escape. Many small business owners are shut down for good. The lie of 1-2 million dead on what has turned out to be no more deadly than a bad flu season is not something for which a vaccine is even needed, and aligning with the Gates Foundation, given their HPV endeavors in Africa and polio vaccinations in India, not to mention their ties to the Wuhan lab from which this plague originated is even more puzzling.

    Lot of conjecture, RIP Tory Smith.

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    • Scarlet says:

      AND it’s not even Covid numbers IN ADDITION to Flu numbers. Flu deaths have completely disappeared! It’s only Covid numbers being reported! Blasphemy!
      The Epstein story must never, ever die.
      The swamp is deep. Unrecognizable at the very bottom. Terrifying and dark.
      Godspeed President Trump.

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    • lieutenantm says:

      “….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.”

      I’m pretty sure everyone below here will be trying to guess who this is…..and i have my own #1 and #2….but the question posed above by Brian Carey is more crucial……..ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE PEDOPHILE NETWORK SMASHED…..AND IT SO, WHEN AND HOW….This is to me the
      only sure way to take these buggers down…….and i am losing heart and patience.

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    • maxxheadroom777 says:

      It is very difficult for a normal person to imagine let alone believe that anyone could become so callous and depraved as Clinton, Epstein, Obama, Holder, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, et cetera. I’ve got a CD of a talk given by itinerant Christian minister Ravi Zacharias wherein he discusses brothels in Thailand offering wealthy clients infant human children for sexual pleasure resulting in the bloody destruction of the infant child’s life. Satan hates humanity with an implacable hatred only God our Father can understand.

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    • johnnybiface says:

      From your post and SDs, there seems to be a finger pointed at VP Pence. There is circumstance but motive?

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      • Skidroe says:

        Mod- no way President Trump would lose Indiana if Pence is replaced! Ain’t going to happen. President Trump will win Indiana!

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      • DouglasR says:

        Inferno
        CANTO XXIII
        But who are you, distilling tears of grief, so many I see running down your cheeks? And what kind of pain is this that it can glitter?

        Dante Alighieri

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  4. somebodysgramma says:

    We can guess all we want. My guess is that we have no idea, but Sundance does. I’ll wait to see how this all pans out. Thank you Sundance.

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  5. avocadodipp says:

    I have no clue who sundance is talking about. They must be burrowed in like a tick and quite the little actor. Can’t wait to see…

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    • modspell says:

      If Pence got replaced now the ticket would likely lose Indiana and some surrounding states. Trump has to keep him under watch and ready to jettison should he make one false move. I wonder who would be the VP replacement to try and keep those states on board. Is Mrs Palin still available?

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      • avocadodipp says:

        If it’s Pence, he deserves the Academy Award for Best Actor.

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      • RIckA says:

        If Pence did help facilitate swamp efforts against our President, his replacement would not cause any significant loss of any support. IMO, a qualified female VP candidate (NOT Nikki Haley) would garner more votes than Pence.

        I believe Pence may be compromised, possibly set up then blackmailed after being photographed / filmed with a female or child in an uncompromising position (or similar), unaware of the depravity and evilness of the swamp and their proven abilities to make it happen.

        This could explain Pence’s personal policy of never being alone in a room with another non-family female ….. he’s too smart to be setup for blackmail a second time.

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        • johnnybiface says:

          If a female VP, I’d go with the South Dakota Gov…Sometime. South Dakota doesn’t bring a lot of votes, but she has ‘it’. Or her as a future Presidential contender.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          your projective ‘concern’ about unproven Pence depravity is noted.
          We her at CTH work on facts, not made up rumors like the russian hoax.

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          • RIckA says:

            Not rumor, but my speculation as to why any high-level politician would betray the trust and loyalty expected by other members of his team. IMO, it’s either blackmail, money, or both. If Pence is revealed to be the deep state collaborator, there would have to be a serious motive for his betrayal beyond him (Pence) being a closet leftist….

            It’s a known fact that multiple governments (including our CIA) have run covert operations to entrap politicians and other influential people by using “honeypots” (including use of children), for blackmail purposes.

            I never intimidated Pence was depraved. The depraved to which I referred are evil people capable and willing to setup innocents and create photographic evidence suitable for blackmail, after drugging them into oblivion.

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        • hoghead2 says:

          RIck, I know a lot of men, many of them pastors, who have the same policy re non family females. This does not indicate they have been caught in the past; it does mean they have good judgment. Such a practice makes “he said/she said” a non starter.

          It may be that VP Pence is too smart to be set up for blackmail the FIRST time.

          I’ve read that Billy Graham during his crusades, would NEVER enter a hotel room before staff people went in and checked the suite out first. A bimbo and a photographer team hiding there could do immense damage to BG’s ministry. (And you can bet there were plenty photogs who would have loved to get a shot like that…)

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    • judah426 says:

      I have always thought that KellyAnne Conway was the mole. How could she possibly be married to that troll of a husband and yet be loyal to Trump. I agree that we should not guess and rely on Sundance. However, I just wanted to spout my long held belief about her.

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    • judah426 says:

      I have always thought that KellyAnne Conway was the mole. How could she possibly be married to that troll of a husband and yet be loyal to Trump. I agree that we should not guess and rely on Sundance. However, I just wanted to spout my long held belief about her.

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    • uptothere says:

      I have a hunch who it might be. Sundance has us sitting on pins and needles waiting for the reveal. My second hunch is that that nothing will be revealed until all the machinery is in place to successfully execute the strategy.

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  6. mtg50 says:

    The more DC is petrified of the story, the more important it is to the U.S. to make it public and to indict all participants whomever the evidence points to.

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  7. John A Yost says:

    If the special counsel was so powerful, why did they shut down?

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  8. 4EDouglas says:

    what i gathered from Trump’s cryptic remark is that he’s hunkering down for a fight.Closing the hatch and putting the helmet on.There is something coming.
    BTW the Troll it is strong today….

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    • tpwbama says:

      That might be why he said that he may not be seen for a while…….because whats about to be revealed will be so disruptive that DC will not be able to function for a while. Hence the EOs today.

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      • johnnybiface says:

        That is a very concerning quote. Are there any cogent explanations as to why he said that? Is it a sense of being re-elected? I hope that’s the only reason why he said that. He needs to be re-elected. I hope that comment gets a positive explanation.

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        • tpwbama says:

          Said it in his speech at Whirlpool Ohio. Added that he has made some very rich enemies….don’t know if that was related to the Pharma companies or future enemies to be revealed. Watch his Presser from NJ also made an eerie remark.

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      • TarsTarkas says:

        Just being out of DC and thus out of reach of compromised assets with access to firearms might be one of the reasons he went north.

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    • FB2417 says:

      Did anyone see this about the WH staff sendoff for Potus. Seems out of the ordinary to have a sendoff for the boss doesn’t it?

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291802483682168834.html

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      • beach lover says:

        I saw that. very unusual I would say.

        Usually that is reserved for end of the administration.

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        • FB2417 says:

          Got your reply via wp, but didn’t see it post on CTH. I was having some issues the other day with posts not going through. Seems to have cleared up for me…

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          • beach lover says:

            yes.. over a week of posts not showing or late.. and like button not working. Ad Rem is trying to keep up.. all seems to be working now, thankfully.

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  9. thrawlbrauna says:

    The hunt is on…

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  10. MaineCoon says:

    Based on SD’s tweets yesterday/today and posted upthread, finger points to Pompeo.

    Additionally, some of the D’s who voted for Pompeo’s confirmation as C.I.A. Director are:

    Feinstein
    Kaine
    Klobucher
    McCaskil
    Schumer
    Warner
    Warren

    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00032

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    • Scarlet says:

      I fear this is correct. I’ve liked him so much. Maybe that’s part of the con.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Vote Date: January 23, 2017, 07:01 PM

      Required For Majority: 1/2Vote Result: Nomination Confirmed

      Nomination Description: Mike Pompeo, of Kansas, to be Director of the Central Intelligence Agency

      Vote Counts:

      YEAs66
      NAYs32
      Not Voting2

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    • modspell says:

      Uh uh… closer. SofS come and go. Only one has been in the admin’s center from the nomination as bad nominees date back before Pompeo. I believe the initials are Mike Pence.

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      • Grammy850 says:

        I agree I think it’s Pence the perfect Trojan horse. He gave us fake Fauci and scarf lady
        He got rid of General Flynn how convenient of him and lo and behold we have a special counsel I hope I am wrong but it’s kinda the same situation that happened with President Reagan Just granny’s opinion.

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      • Armchair Quarterback says:

        I do believe there were 5 X’s 😳

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    • jus wundrin says:

      Interesting.

      From Wiki: “On November 18, 2016, President-elect Donald Trump announced that he would nominate Pompeo to be the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. He was confirmed by the Senate on January 23, 2017, with a vote of 66–32, and sworn in later that day. In his confirmation he failed to disclose the links between his company in Kansas and a Chinese government owned firm.”

      Who recommended Pompeo, and who has Pompeo recommended to the President?

      I think the clue would be found here:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_2016_presidential_campaign#General_election_campaign_staff

      Which one is still on the Trump team?

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  11. OffCourseNation says:

    To summarize the all this. It’s either:
    1) Pence.
    2) Pompeo.
    3) Someone else.

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  12. mtk says:

    ….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.

    That’s ugly.

    That’s the truth.

    That’s where cold anger gives way to righteous fury.

    …and believe me DC is petrified of that story.

    The more strident question is?, has PDJT cut off this person’s access to his adminstration, and if so when?

    My guess it was his Chief of Staff Reinhold Richard “Reince” Priebus. Just look at his tenure, he was in position to recommend all the Executive placements that moved the Mueller Team into controll of the DOJ.

    If not, then it is a person he can’t remove from the Executive, other than saying, “Here is the door. Thanks but no thanks.” Naturally, “Trump going Trump on this person, may actually correspond with Capital Hill doubling down on bat sh*t crazy!”

    In that scenario, my guess would be Mitch, but Mitch is an old political ‘dog’. The fleas on that dog are well known. The best he could do was give yah, or nay to whatever was being whispered in the President’s ear.

    Thus reverting back to Priebus as the President’s Brutus. His removal liking saw Mattis picking up the Priebus ‘Swamp’ portfolio. His removal, may factor into the swamp’s decision to go all in and pass the ‘witch hunt’ portfolio to junior officer’s of the Pentagon and IC and attempt to give a Presidential Black eye that lead to impeachment as the Administration zeroed in the swamp’s low hanging fruit over Biden’s Ukraine and China exposure.

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    • mtk says:

      I still say there is much more to FBI SA Dugan.

      Yah, right, he just went off on his own!!!
      And the ‘BigUgly’ leak investigation only captured text messages.
      Again, yah right.
      I bet in the audio qualitity, “You can hear pins drop.”

      But that is not the issue, the issue is, “What Team Mueller did with it?”

      Here is what they did with it, “Team Mueller legally established, read the word slowly, Team Mueller established a… criminal “INTENT” to advance a PROGOM by not cutting bait against the ‘witch hunt’ knowning full well that the Special Consul as seated was well aware the from the inception the evidence of Collusion was fabricated and the only goal was to establish Obstruction charges.
      However, by burying FBI SA Dugan leak investigation as turned over to the Special Consul, they exited the ‘world of political theater’ and entered into the ‘world of a political conspiracy hit job.’

      I may be wrong, but by everything SD is advancing, ‘How can that narrative be far removed from the Truth.”

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  13. Scarlet says:

    VOTE IN PERSON !

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  14. texasooz57 says:

    Tucker got me thinking…
    The Columbia Bugle 🇺🇸 (@ColumbiaBugle) Tweeted:
    #Thread Must Watch! @TuckerCarlson & @nedryun Call Out GOP Operatives Secretly Undermining Pres. Trump’s Goals

    Tucker: “4 years ago Donald Trump ran on a few issues that were very popular with the public: build the wall, cut immigration, bring back manufacturing jobs.” 1/ https://t.co/xFiXK0OFUw https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1291905376992899074?s=20

    Then another commenter posted this article…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-beltway-power-couple-and-a-political-newcomer-learned-to-thrive-in-the-trump-era/2019/10/22/e507c5be-ef90-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html

    And Brad Parscale did just get fired or demoted after the Tulsa rally. Could he be the big ugly with the help of Katie Walsh and her husband Mike Shields? Just a thought. He maybe too lower level, tho.

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  15. TrustyHaste says:

    Who was it that was whispering in Trump’s ear? Ivanka? Jared?

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    • Scarlet says:

      Oh, please. Never.
      For what gain ?
      Way too much to lose.
      Nothing to gain. Absolutely nothing.
      Plus, he’s never out her. Never say a bad word about her.

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  16. susanphd says:

    Pompeo recommened Dr. Birx.

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  17. lolli says:

    Ok. Here is my opinion.
    We al know Mitch and Lindsey etc are corrupt. No big surprise there.

    I do not trust Pompeo one bit. I do think he is part of the resistance. He is cia, never cleaned up state, and I do think he is SES. ..but he is not the one who will be a shock.

    I think the one hardest for many to accept is Pence. He has been there since day one.
    Recommending people for positions.

    Did Pence handle Paul Ryan, his best buddy during the first 2 years? No. They blindsided President Trump.

    Pence got Flynn fired. Period. I now think the entire interview, which led to that mess, was probably a set up. Seems everything is planned.

    How about Pences team on voter integrity. How did that turn out? He said he couldn’t get it done so the team was dismantled.

    Pence and the covid task force. Pence has been in charge. How’s that working out?

    I have watched Pence undermine PT during those covid pressers back in the earlier days.

    Etc etc etc

    Nothing Pence has done has made me think he was MAGA.

    IMO, VP Pence is part of the swamp and is the traitor that many will not want to accept.

    But, I really hope to be joyously surprised. It would be much simpler.
    Just my point of view.

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    • kimosaabe says:

      Lots of conclusions. No source material. BTW, the Pence/Flynn clusterfark was a media/deep state generated kerfuffle that claimed Flynn lied to Pence about his conversation with Russian ambassador and made Pence look like a liar on national TV. All of which was untrue, as the underlying information has come out. As Pence has since said so.

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      • lolli says:

        Ya. I can look it all up and source it all, but I did say it was my take. My opinion, like everyone else has an opinion.
        I have followed every detail, read every post by Sundance since the elevator ride.
        If those rats had been with us, we wouldn’t be here now.
        In my opinion.

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      • JustLittleOldMe says:

        Yes, as Pence said……after the damage was already done.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      there is PLENTY of SOURCE. i am leaning to agree with you.

      Pence handled the Flynn issue terribly. and his involvement could never be made public. unless you want the big ugly. the END.

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    • FreedomWon says:

      I agree with everything you wrote 100%!
      I also observed all that Pence was doing!
      President Trump was in some kind of meeting and someone asked him where Pence was and President Trump said something like “flying around somewhere”. It was very sarcastic! I think it was the governors round table?

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  18. jenn3atl says:

    Any Treepers remember Pres. Trump making a Deep State quip introducing Pompeo during a COVID19 presser? I remember being a little surprised by that quip and replayed it a few times trying to gauge what that was about. Pompeo smiled.

    President Trump said “”One thing, Secretary of State Pompeo is extremely busy, so if you have any question for him right now, could you do that?” said Trump. “I’d like him to go back to the State Department or as they call it, ‘the deep state department.”

    Here’s a link: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/deep-state-department-trump-blasts-agency-workers-while-standing-next-to-secretary-of-state

    I will wait for Sundance to inform us and trust it will happen at the most strategic time to maximize impact.

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    • lolli says:

      I remember a covid pressers, first week, maybe day 2, when PT introduced a Pompeo as head of the deep state. Then uncomfortable laughter of Pompeo.

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  19. Richard says:

    Just one thought to place a huge umbrella over all of the DC. criminality …… DC number 1 SECRET….. they have been disqualified as FICTION.
    : Russell- Jay: Gould. Title 4 Flag owner
    Quantum Correct Now Time System .
    I believe it is valid. I believe he is in charge and working with Trump.
    Benjamin Franklin Post Office in Phila. , Pa. became the Capitol/ center for all U S. Government operations on Dec. 25 , 2013. DC and its creatures are all disqualified unless they have a contract with Gould. Gould captured the flag in 1999. Or is this crazy ?

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  20. LA Conservative says:

    It says “was whispering in the President’s ear.” This could be someone not currently in the administration. Rod Rosenstien was certainly part of the resistance and Jeff Sessions was complicit. Don Magan fits the bill. Reince Preibus certainly was in a position as Chief of a Staff and was probably as establishment as anyone in the administration. I think most of the serious damage was done in the first two years. The resistance definitely lost some of its mojo after the Mueller probe ended. The impeachment was an absolute partisan joke and I think the initial coronavirus lockdown was the right response given what we knew at the time. I can’t buy Pompeo or Pence as the turncoat.

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  21. 13Folds says:

    Really? If Walsh & Shields are involved I say off with their heads. This is serious business. It is about America at the highest levels. As a military vet, this is what I opposed. No more mr nice guy.

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  22. 13Folds says:

    Admin. I am new to post, although a longtime reader. I am a retired Lt Col. Just saying….oh, Air Force & Air National Guard. Cheerio

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  23. 13Folds says:

    Admin, ok got it! thanks though

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  24. A2 says:

    Political pass the parcel.

    Find out who recommended Anthony Scaramucci that may give a clue.

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  25. 13Folds says:

    just saying….13Folds is the number of folds that are done/performed to a flag that hangs over a veterans coffin before is it given to next of kin.

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  26. Marygrace Powers says:

    Hope we get to see the “I knew it was you Fredo” in real time/YUGE!

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  27. A2 says:

    Sorry, it’s dark here.☺️

    Political pass the parcel.

    Find out who recommended Anthony Scaramucci that may give a clue.

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  28. John OB says:

    “the legislative branch worked in coordination with usurping elements inside the executive branch..”

    The judiciary plugs in too…Emmett Sullivan..Amy Berman Jackson…the DC Circuit..the rubber stamp FISC..

    The conspiracy moved fast; get General Flynn out of the White House, McMaster in, and Sessions recused. James Comey would send ‘a couple of guys over’ to do in the
    General.
    The whisperer is either a conduit for the snake or the snake itself.

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  29. OffCourseNation says:

    Perhaps the biggest mystery here is why doesn’t SD just tell us who it is. There are now hundreds of comments by people guessing. Is this all some kind of psychological test to see who is the most patient?

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    • Beau Geste says:

      It is goal-oriented motivation to review and apply the facts, before the final exam of needingto be well-prepared to engage others…

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    • brutalus2 says:

      Maybe like in Pulp Fiction when Jules says to Vincent “It’s not time yet…let’s hang back”…maybe we need to have a discussion on foot massages before we take care of Flock of Seagulls and Big Brain Brett

      I wonder if the Deep State reads the Bible….

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    • wxobserver says:

      I’m not sure this particular post from SD was strictly for our benefit. Perhaps to make some swamp creatures nervous and/or spur some action. If the so far hidden name is guessed correctly even once here in the comments, it may further that purpose.

      This comment is 100% a guess too.

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  30. ivehadit says:

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    • gsonFIT says:

      Dang!!!!! They even made him a player’s card in Farsi

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    • OffCourseNation says:

      Looks anyway like we got our answer. P O M P E O.

      I can go out and cut the grass now.

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      • MVW says:

        It looks like it based on that tweet. It is a shame as Pompeo is a bright guy. Too bright to be such a dumb bunny. He could have been a good foot soldier then run for the big ticket. He is a lot smarter than Pence.

        I am still not sold though that it is Pompeo, but I also don’t think it is Pence. Instead of either of those two, I would bet on the lawyer, who could misguide POTUS’s key decisions and facilitate the coup success.

        Pompeo could very well be a neocon and try to facilitate a war with Iran and keep us mired in Iraq and Afghanistan, contrary to POTUS, but that does not facilitate the coup, and I think that Bolton is more likely the rotten Neocon pulling those strings. Could be both though. If Pompeo is indeed a mole Neocon, that is trouble going forward.

        I think Don McGahn could have been a coup mole though, and he is now gone, another possible indication he was bent.

        Lastly, I strongly believe something is rotten in the CIA, still, and involved in mischief, a rogue operating cell, with big money and resources, running drugs and human trafficking.

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    • cjzak says:

      Oh boy. Well that’s a bummer and incredibly disappointing too. Now what?

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  31. SallyMAy says:

    Obama is paying people to interfere in the 2020 election via his OFA Obama Foundation.
    One such figure is Sean Tanner who works for OFA since 2012.

    Tanner just got Kanye kicked off the 2020 election ballot in Illinois….

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/07/kanye-west-falls-1300-signatures-short-of-making-illinois-2020-election-ballot/

    So they are saying Kanye fell short of the signature count of 2500, but he submitted over 3000 signatures in Illinois.

    Guess who Sean tanner whom disputed Kanye’s signatures works for???? Non other than the Obama Foundation OFA….. When are we gonna stop this Organized Crime Family?

    I hope Kanye resolves these issues legally.

    Obama and his Crime Family have their dirty fingers in everything.

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    • Dave Radetsky says:

      Obama is too low on the totem pole. He never was the one in power. He was fed his orders from his globalist masters (I believe it’s the likes of Soros and his ilk) through Valerie Jarrett. Obama may be part of things, but he’s not the top guy.

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  32. MustangBlues says:

    Wowee!! The heavyweight fiction writers are in deep certitude form today; triggered by Sundance’s latest missive.

    Mightily Armed with occasional glimpses of facts, speculating furiously, ruminating through to refined cud, to share with all, then on to the next tidbit to add, and rinse and repeat and post again.

    Any of savvy pontificators willing to bet their houses on their proclamations? All proceeds from the sales go to Sundance for all the free lessons on government chicanery.

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    • gsonFIT says:

      Would you bet your country on it?

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    • cjzak says:

      Isn’t that what a blog is for? People come together looking for a place for discussion, opinion and finding facts? Sundance provides this site just for that kind of exchange and he sets it up by providing the very best investigations and analysis of the events unfolding in the political world of America.

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  33. Showsa says:

    I don’t think it’s Kellyanne because hubby George is always spouting off.

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  34. burnett044 says:

    I could tell you all who it is ….but first we must enter the “Cone of Silence”

    hang tuff..

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  35. 13Folds says:

    Absolutely know why it would be Pompeo. He is a midwest guy, rural America. Trump trusted him as CIA, now Sec of State. Although, will admit, I am surprised. Although, we in the midwest can be simple, about God and Country. Remember, Gates was from Wichita. Harry Truman, for Independence, MO, and Eisnehower from Abilene, KS. There is no way Pompeo would puts his wife out in public if here was trying undermine Trump. I think he is the most trusted agent outiside Trump inner circle from outside New York.

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  36. Patience says:

    …..”who WAS whispering in his ear about MAKING APPOINTMENTS” ~Sundance

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  37. David says:

    I sure hope Mr. XXXXX ( the one never to be named running the secert investigation) is not the same traitor in the Whitehouse that has President Trump’s ear. Now that would be a wave of “cold anger gives way to righteous fury”

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  38. I would wager money the offender was at the Sea Island gathering in 2016.

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  39. Jenevive says:

    underneath Pence “aw Shucks” persona is the consumate Politician he has the fancy
    talk down like most politicians do. He seems like a just a really nice guy and is quite
    the contrast to Bombastic POTUS. But reading here has made me start to give
    Pence side eye.

    Pompoe is more like POTUS he straight talks he is not a fancy talker.. I would be
    surprised if it was him..but I have wondered he started out in CIA . what did he know
    of find out and wouldn;t he have found out about any role John Brennen may have had
    is spygate. Didn;t Pompeo also recommend and take up for Gina Haspsel to be CIA
    director?

    I thought highly of John Kelly at first I remember when POTUS was giving a speech
    at a military academy and was presented with some sword or something and John Kelly
    made a joke that POTUS could use it on people..

    But sadly he turned out to be a backstabbing traitor..So disappointed..

    Given the behavior of her husband I wouldn;t be totally shocked to find out if
    it was KellyAnn..Why would she pillow talk about her job when her hubby
    behaves the way he does.. and why would POTUS keep her around after the way
    her husband has disrespected him more than once.

    I don;t think it would be Jared.. But I have always wondered about him knowning he
    had bad history with Chris Christie why would POTUS have brought Christie on board
    knowing how his SIL feels about him.. When I first saw Jared walking in the garden
    during the transition I thought what a nice young man.. Then he made his one and only
    speech outside the whitehouse after his testimony for special council. HE defended himself well
    but I don;t know what to make of Jared..but I agree he would not backstab POTUS cuz
    I think Ivanka would side with Daddy.. But what initiatives had Jared really gotten done
    other than Prison reform wasn;t Jared working on some middle east Peace plan we never heard
    anything about that.

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    • rayvandune says:

      “Given the behavior of her husband I wouldn;t be totally shocked to find out if it was KellyAnn.”

      If it was KA, wouldn’t it be much more likely her husband would STFU and just fade into the woodwork, rather than drawing attention to the two of them? Sure, it could be “reverse psychology”… like in the movies, but really why would real plotters take the chance of someone in the WH getting rid of her “just to make sure”?

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  40. icthematrix says:

    If it is Pompeo I get it in terms of a major surprise, but shock around DC? Maybe so, but I think many of us haven’t been comfortable with him for some time. It could be that the name is not all there is….one key person but tied to many others cooperating on both sides…hence the atomic shock wave when all of that emerges. Pompeo the lead dog but the pack of mongrels is large.

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    • OffCourseNation says:

      SD actually said petrified. I must confess, I don’t get at all why DC would be petrified. Seems more like something to petrify the rest of us that someone like that could be in such a position of influence for so long and still be there.

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  41. RIP_Bernell_Trammell says:

    So was the move in 2018 by Paul Ryan and his band of 40 thieves (i.e., “retiring“ GOP House members) just an effort to bail out before things got too hot a la John Carlin? May God watch over President Trump (The Disruptor).

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    • cboldt says:

      Ryan and GOP had to turn the House over to the DEMs to get impeachment.
      “Sacrifice” for the long term goal. The made ones get gigs to tide them over until Trump blows over.

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  42. rickinhouston says:

    I was going to Tweet this article on Andrew Weissmann’s page. I can no longer find it. Has he deactivated It? It was available and easy to find a few days ago. Interesting.

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  43. Deplore Able says:

    We know the plot against candidate Trump involved DOJ, FBI, CIA, ODNI, State Dept and NSA. If deep state wants to hide what happened prior to inauguration, they need deep state actors to head the DOJ (Attorney General), FBI, CIA, ODNI, State Dept. and NSA. In they control these key positions they can obstruct and delay revelation of Obama Administration crimes.

    Steps:
    1. First they get Flynn out of NSA. Replaced by deep state McMasters.
    2. Next, they get Sessions to recuse and elevate deep state Rosenstein.
    3. Pompeo to CIA. When he leaves, Brennan holdover Gina Haspel takes his place.
    4. Deep State Dan Coates to ODNI.
    4. Comey is safe at FBI, but worth the effort to get him fired and set up possible impeachment for obstruction. Comey replaced by his best friend deep state Christopher Wray.
    5. Get deep state Special Counsel Mueller appointed to further protect DOJ and FBI.
    6. Friendly Rex Tillerson leaves Dept of State and replaced by Pompeo.

    If Pompeo is a deep state actor, then the deep state at one time controlled every position.

    Now we have Barr at Attorney General, John Ratcliffe at ODNI and Robert O’Brian at NSA.
    I am not sure about O’Brian. His connections to Romney raise a red flag.

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  44. PinotNoir says:

    Wonder what the perceived lifespan of Dems, swamp rats and Rinos is should this election result in widespread violence? All these “newsy” names are literally betting their lives on either status quo ante Trump or being on the winning side of a revolution. Pretty sure I’d be eating dessert first were I one of them.

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  45. Mojo says:

    “The background of the Wolfe story is the thread that lays the corrupt special counsel activity naked to sunlight; and the Wolfe story exposes just how the process from early 2016 all the way through the impeachment effort of August 2019 was put together. The ramifications are so significant that when you become aware of the Wolfe story everything reconciles.”

    I need a walk through the Wolfe chapter of this story.

    I’m having trouble following the sequence of events, the players and who donnit to whom, most of all, why Sundance draws such significance from his leak. Was the Small Group sacrificing him to cover their own leak? Did he get a pass to stop the investigation into the mechanics of the leak? I need to see the “thread” in a linear fashion.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Here’s a prior thread that might help you:

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/03/factual-stuff-that-will-help-reconcile-issues-within-spygate-and-the-special-counsel/

      The key was the leak trap Dugan set that Wolfe triggered when he texted Ali Watkins the Carter Page FISA document. Once that was triggered, Weissman & Co. had to do some scrambling, especially once Wolfe threatened to have his lawyers call the entire SSCI for testimony if his trial he was thrown under the bus.

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    • PaulCohen says:

      Wolfe was nailed dead-to-rights by the leak trap (change in date on the copy of the FISA sent to SSIC). Wolfe leaked it immediately to press (within minutes), not realizing it had leak trace on it. Once Wolfe was caught by FBI he basically threatened to call entire SSIC (both parties) as his “character” witnesses (ha ha), so behind the scenes it was arranged for Wolfe to get a sweetheart plea bargain down to one lesser count and no mention of leaking classified material. What Sundance brilliantly figured out and explained so well is that the extensive corruption of the Special Counsel’s team (Weissman/Mueller et al.), key parts of the FBI and DOJ, the SSIC and much of Congress, etc. can be revealed and illustrated by the machinations of the SC to protect Wolfe, SSIC, leaking of classified materials, FISA corruption, etc. etc.

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  46. JAS says:

    Either someone in Congress that has his ear or a higher up underling that has been there all along. That narrows the field quite a bit. Down to maybe 5 people.

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  47. WhiteBoard says:

    and a fun update so people see .

    Not one testimony released by Grenell shows TESTIMONY of russia collusion.

    Alot of this – is saying one thing in testimony, and saying another thing in the media. A deliberate misinformation campaign to mislead the public to win a politcal race.

    REMEMBER THIS. Barr’s interview tomorrow will detail.

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  48. P says:

    Just looking up words.

    FTA: The background of the Wolfe story is the thread that lays the corrupt special counsel activity naked to sunlight; and the Wolfe story exposes just how the process from early 2016 all the way through the impeachment effort of August 2019 was put together. The ramifications are so significant that when you become aware of the Wolfe story everything reconciles.

    Corrupt Republicans and Democrats worked together; the legislative branch worked in coordination with usurping elements inside the executive branch; the intelligence apparatus and the State Dept worked to assist both the legislative branch and the usurping agents inside the DOJ-NSD.

    ….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.

    That’s ugly.

    That’s the truth.

    That’s where cold anger gives way to righteous fury.

    …and believe me DC is petrified of that story.
    ————————————————————–
    Words / Pic:
    usurping elements
    usurping agents
    “someone very close”
    petrified
    “wolf amidst dogs” pic

    https://www.freethesaurus.com/usurping

    https://www.freethesaurus.com/petrified

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/petrified

    https://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Pseudomorph

    The earliest mention of “wolfe” I found is here:
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2011/11/19/paul-ryan-votes-against-decepticon-boehner-re-balanced-budget-amendment/

    Start of 2016 but not sure how to locate other posted articles:
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/page/47/?s=2016

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    • cjzak says:

      It really is ugly. Makes one sick to think of all those DC swamp rats deciding for the American people that the person the people chose and voted into the office of Pres. was a bad choice. A bad choice not for the people, but for the corrupt DC system called the federal govt.

      Wow, it does blow one’s mind to really take all that co-ordinated corruption in.

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  49. WhiteBoard says:

    I will offer one more name – Paul Ryan.

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    • Linda K. says:

      Yeah, no way Trump trusted him.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        He was Gang of 8 – didnt push to win the house in 2018. he was the RNC Chair that forced POTUS to take Manafort (to help the sureillance).

        I think the SIMPLEST thing to PROVE would be paul ryan over Pence.

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    • thesavvyinvester says:

      “I will offer one more name – Paul Ryan.”

      It makes sense. The media was on fair terms with him & now he is on the Board of Fox, which is swampian. But the petrified part is they must think he will flip.
      I can’t see him wanting to do time, he’ll sing like a canary….

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