The Truth Doesn’t Care About Your Feelings – The Big Ugly…

Do not misinterpret anger for defeatism.  Truth is the fuel for cold anger, and it’s time everyone begins accepting some painful truths.

What some have called “Spygate” is not a frozen moment in time or a set of dates on a calendar with a beginning and an end.  Spygate was the originating process to ensure the DC system did not experience the disruption carried by Donald John Trump; but it was only the originating process….

….The process of opposition against Donald Trump is a continuum.

Those who use DC for influence and affluence control the mechanisms within the self-actuating system. This includes both Democrats and Republicans as they both feed from the same trough.  In the effort to remove Donald Trump, both wings of the uniparty bird were aligned with an identical purpose; Democrats carrying out their effort openly, and the republican elements operating covertly as to retain the DC premise.

Specifically, one common misconception is thinking the Mueller special counsel was an outcome of an action by President Trump when he fired former FBI Director James Comey.  This is false.  The special counsel process was a continuum in the effort to remove the threat that Donald Trump represented back in the early primary days of 2016.  The system, writ large, was aligned with this purpose.

There would have been a special counsel investigating the nonsense around ‘Trump-Russia’ regardless of Comey being fired. The special counsel was always part of the plan.

In October 2016 Deputy Attorney General John Carlin, in charge of the National Security Division of the DOJ bailed out of the effort after misleading the FISA court on their surveillance activity and setting up the introduction of the FISA warrant against Carter Page.  Carlin was replaced by a more committed traveler/ideologue named Mary McCord.

With Mary McCord in place to continue the DOJ-NSD aspects to the resistance and removal effort, the DOJ and FBI simply continued the process after the November 2016 election.  Internally all of the officials, essentially lawyers, within the DOJ-NSD were carrying out the removal objective and cleverly attempting to cover their tracks.

We see the creation in plausible deniability with the use of Bruce Ohr as a bridge between the politically corrupt DOJ-NSD and the politically corrupt FBI.  Ohr was carrying the messages from outside the system (Chris Steele) into the system. This was his function.

Everyone knew what Ohr’s mission was.  Anyone today, like Sally Yates, who claims they had no idea what the #4 official was doing is simply lying.  That is part of the plausible deniability part. It was set up that way.  Everyone knew what to expect, everyone knew the goals and objectives and every part of the process was compartmentalized to create these functional denials in case anything went sideways; or if the objective failed.

Andrew Weissmann was inside this DOJ-NSD system and he was a primary participant in transferring the spygate operation into the special counsel.  Again, it’s one long continuum.  Tashina Gauhar was the internal tool who had the objective to facilitate the effort and block any DOJ leadership effort that might disrupt the goal.  She too did her job very well.

This is where it must be accepted the DOJ-NSD was the legal side of the usurpation effort.  Everyone at the top three levels inside the system was participating.  Some of them are still there despite the primary agents leaving.

The special counsel then became the continuation of the process.  Once in place it was the special counsel who ran the show from Main Justice.  Additional operatives were brought in to coordinate the plan.  Pictured group below:

No action took place inside Main Justice that was not controlled by this group. Nothing.

When congress was battling for information, it was the special counsel who held control. Nothing was ever released without the special counsel releasing it.  Nothing was ever redacted, removed, or hidden without this group doing the functional work to control it.

This is critical because too many people have failed to accept that any information released from Main Justice was purposefully released as part of a strategy.  An example of that control is the release of the Carter Page FISA application in July 2018.  This is the group who released it.

When ever anyone was asking who was redacting the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages, it was this group.  They also removed some.

This group also controlled what Inspector General Michael Horowitz was allowed to review as part of any of his investigative inquiries.  Everything was labeled as part of the special counsel investigation…. that’s how they justified and got away with it.

Simultaneously this group was leaking to their friends and allies in the media to frame narratives beneficial to their effort.  The media were willing to assist their friends; and indeed, they are friends.  They run in the same circles, attend the same parties, go to the same functions and meet both personally and professionally.  This is the network.

To understand or expose the largest part of the corruption that exists within DC you need a thread, a fulcrum example to share that exposes how this allied network operates. That example is best evidenced, irrefutably, within the story of how Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Security Director James Wolfe was caught facilitating the objectives.

Wolfe was caught by an external investigator from the FBI Washington Field Office named Brian Dugan.  While the special counsel likely knew the periphery of what the Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) was doing (a leak investigation), it was not until the complete investigative file was turned over to the special counsel in January 2018 when the special counsel group grasped the totality of the issues involved.

Immediately the special counsel group formed an attack plan because the outcome of Dugan’s investigation was toxic to their interests in the early part of 2018.   The special counsel stripped the investigative file of the details damaging to their ongoing corrupt effort.  They could not allow the public to know the FISA application was in the hands of their media allies since March of 2017.  This story cuts to the heart of corrupt activity.

What the special counsel team did in order to protect their activity is incredible.  Only someone as arrogant and Machiavellian as Andrew Weissmann could have planned to carry out this scheme.   That’s why he is currently attacking – it’s fear.

The background of the Wolfe story is the thread that lays the corrupt special counsel activity naked to sunlight; and the Wolfe story exposes just how the process from early 2016 all the way through the impeachment effort of August 2019 was put together.  The ramifications are so significant that when you become aware of the Wolfe story everything reconciles.

Nothing is circumstantial, everything is exposed with direct evidence sworn under oath and subject to perjury.   Dig this story hard and everything reconciles.

Yes, FISA abuse is a big deal; yes, crossfire hurricane is a big deal; yes, the Carter Page FISA application is a big deal; yes, the Chris Steele aspect is a big deal; but in the final analysis that’s only the beginning of the effort.  Look at what the special counsel was doing from May 2017 to April 2019 and the scale of the effort is stunning.

Corrupt Republicans and Democrats worked together; the legislative branch worked in coordination with usurping elements inside the executive branch; the intelligence apparatus and the State Dept worked to assist both the legislative branch and the usurping agents inside the DOJ-NSD and Main Justice.

….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.

Who recommended ODNI Coats? Who recommended DOJ-NSD head lawyer Michael Atkinson, the top FISA review authority and counsel to the head of the NSD, transfer from the NSD to become Intelligence Community Inspector General? Both recommendations had purpose; look at what ICIG Atkinson did with NSC operative Alexander Vindman? These internal actions were not accidental.

That’s ugly.

That’s the truth.

That’s where cold anger gives way to righteous fury.

…and believe me DC is petrified of that story.

 

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1,788 Responses to The Truth Doesn’t Care About Your Feelings – The Big Ugly…

  1. toolnut says:

    I’m going to guess Mitch for the simple reason he’s the one that would be telling the President who he would and would not be able to get confirmed through the senate. Lots of control there.

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    • Brian2136 says:

      Mitch was my first guess.

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    • Lovearepublican says:

      Just tell us please.

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    • 4sure says:

      PENCE. Been there from day one. Never critiqued by anyone in fake news or by anyone in uniparty. Would gain presidency if PTRUMP were removed. Saddled him w/Fauchi/Birx. GOT RID OF Flynn. If someone was/is leading PTrump astray, then Pence would know. If he knows, why isn’t he warning PTRUMP. Sundance said this Judas would shock DC. Why would anything shock DC. Would the VP being a Judas shock DC. ? The real shock would be Kushner. But why would he do it? The Judas has to be someone who has been very close to POTUS from the beginning of his being elected and still in place. Not many to choose from.

      Maybe President Trump now knows who this person is. His comment that what has been uncovered by Durham will be shocking or words to that effect may be telling.

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      • tav144 says:

        If the mole / traitor is Pence, then this from shipwreckedcrew is something to keep in mind also!

        Quote:
        An absolute majority of 270 is required to win. If neither gets 270 at the time of the meeting of the Electoral College, then the House of Representatives would decide.

        BUT, the manner of voting in the House is each state delegation gets 1 vote — not each member gets 1 vote.
        Presumably the vote of each delegation would break down along party lines. The State does not have to vote consistent with the popular vote in the state. The candidate who would win is the candidate who receives 26 state votes.
        By my count, the Rep currently control 26 and the Dems control 23, with 1 even. There is another rub to that however, and that is the quorum rules. In order to conduct this election, 2/3 of all House members must be present, with a majority of states represented.
        If the Dems boycotted the contingency election, there would not be a quorum and they could delay the vote. But the 12th Amendment provides that in such a situation, on Jan 20 the VP elect would be acting Pres. The VP elect is voted by the Senate, with each Sen. having 1 vote.
        End-quote.

        So if there is a scenario where the presidency is still in dispute, then Pence will be acting President until the dispute is resolved.

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  2. rayvandune says:

    A week or so ago, we were asked to avoid speculating on the name of the “Trump insider” traitor. Is that still your desire, Sundance?

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I don’t recall that. I thought Sundance said it was useless for us to speculate on the name of the person who was doing some really heavy lifting on this case, the PROSECUTOR…that we wouldn’t even know the name.

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  3. CopperTop says:

    SD/ AD REM. John KXXX …might be conduit for sharing info. Never vetted. Always mindful everyone has their graft but recently took a stand against cancel culture that seems promising.

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  4. Ellesews says:

    I’m going to throw out a name…Kevin Hassett. He worked for McCain, W., and Romney. He writes/wrote for WAPO, NYT, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg. He started as an advisor on September 17, 2017 and left June 28, 2019, only to return to give bad adviceon the pandemic from Marchto June this year. At the very least, he could be a leaker.

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  5. Bogeyfree says:

    Dump Pence now!

    Add Kristi Noem

    Mentoring under PT for 4 years gives us a great MAGA leader come 2024.

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    • zephyrbreeze says:

      That would be a brilliant choice and the left would flip out knowing she’d be a great successor. I agree – it’s Pence.

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      • bill963 says:

        Not sure it’s Pence, only because Ric Grenell has been steadfast in his support of Pence. Ric has also be singing Barr’s praise. I just pray Ric is correct. I think it’s Mitch.
        I love the idea of Kristi Noem as VP for the second term!!

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      • bill963 says:

        Not sure it’s Pence, only because Ric Grenell has been steadfast in his support of Pence. Ric has also be singing Barr’s praise. I just pray Ric is correct. I think it’s Mitch.
        I love the idea of Kristi Noem as VP for the second term!!

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    • paulashley says:

      Interesting point. Watching Pence deal with the COVID task force cemented my belief that he’s not Presidential material, at least at a moment like this. Among his many mistakes, Bush stayed with the vilified Cheney, leaving no successor. It would be unfortunate to say the least if Trump did the same.

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    • Papoose2007 says:

      Hmmmm. He’s dull. He actually lulls me to sleep. I do respect him for the kindness he shows the President when orating, however, I feel its truly his respect for the office of the Presidency. He is a loyal American.

      When President Trump and Mrs.Trump were ushered to their seats during President George H W Bush’s funeral, he did not stand which I feel he should have in knowing that our President was persona non grata. I’ll never forget that. Ever.

      I cannot envision VP Pence as our KAG successor. Not in a million years.

      MAGA 2020

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  6. L&L says:

    Javanka

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  7. kt says:

    Pence, nor Jarad or any other current or past cabinet member would have D.C petrified. These are temporary members of the club, they will be gone. The senate is one big UniParty neither Democrat nor Republican just a big ugly party feeding from the same trough. Who runs the Senate as a Majority Leader as well as a past Minority Leader? Mitch McConnell. Who has advised Trump on appointments, Mitch. Mitch exposed would have DC petrified.

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    • kt, I will agree with you that to have DC petrified it should be someone who has been there for years or even decades so neither Pence or Jared fit that plus both will be gone when Trump is. McConnell has always been a snake in the grass. No one with any sense would listen to Graham. McConnell would probably have the most influence.

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  8. liberallyconservative says:

    My late father would tell me, “You can’t fight city hall.”

    President Trump and his few allies are trying with some success but it will take another 4 years to put a real dent into “The Swamp” but you’ll never drain it. Especially using Executive Orders, it’s only a temporary fix as they will be reversed with a Democrat administration. Quite possibly, even with a Republican one in the future. Who follows Donald J. Trump if he gets another four years?

    We have discovered the country is full of sell outs, politically, in the corporate setting, Wall Street, fill in the blank. The powers that be start in local politics, work their way up and once in Congress they merely expand The Swamp to enrich themselves and those who gave them money to gain power. It’s a never ending cycle.

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    • linderella says:

      I find it interesting that President Trump’s Executive Orders are considered a temporary fix, that would be overturned the minute a Democrat president is elected — but that President Trump is unable to cancel President Obama’s DACA EO. Funny how that works…
      https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/09/06/trump-cant-executive-order-unlawful-daca-existence/

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      • sarasotosfan says:

        Lunderella, he is not “unable”.

        The ruling simply said they went about doing it the wrong way. The bureaucrat (Francisco?) conveniently stepped down.

        Trump has the power to get it done and he will revise DACA, not simply discard it because he knows at present Congress is not capable of fixing immigration from a legislative approach.

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      • GB Bari says:

        ..but that President Trump is unable to cancel President Obama’s DACA EO.

        That .should inform you about the extent of corruption within the Judiciary – which is significant.

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    • andythird says:

      We can win elections. We will win. Bet on it. People are saying we will win, smart people, people you would know. We are winning, God and Right are on your side. We are saving the world. If the Communist Globalists take over we will see another dark age, where knowledge is destroyed, that will not happen.

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  9. Ninja7 says:

    Sundance, Fellow Treepers; Adrem etal,
    Sundance, Thank you for this Refuge, for your insights in correcting the dots. More importantly your ability of being able to make it plain. So that many can understand “The Continuum” concept, No Recess Appointments, the UniParty, etc.

    Fellow Treepers, Thank you for your insights, perspectives, comments from the the belly of the beast or other parts of the world. Your encouragement and prayers for those who are discouraged, disheartened, beaten down etc, is greatly appreciated.

    Adrem etal, Thank you for ALL the HARD work that you do in keeping this community, civil and up and running. Pulling out many of us from the trash bin. Also your sense of humor. 🤔🤔

    Appears that we are coming to a cross road, Many (Maybe Only Some) have come to a realization of the depth of swamp. Throughout many agencies, departments, organizations, Locally, State, or Federal. Globalism.

    “The Continuum”, a Globalist Playbook, An Attempt for a One World Government. Where the USA is standing in the way. Where PDJT is standing in the breach between the Deep State Swamp and us deplorables and the objective of the Globalists. Having a Disruptor, in PDJT, threw a monkey wrench into the Globalist’s plans, upsetting the generational gravity train of the UniParty. Their stove pipes (areas of control etc).

    Again Sundance, Thank you for the education in economics between Wall Street and Main Street, The Lame Stream Media, Politics, especially the feeding from the trough, Foreign Aide kickbacks to the UniParty members etc. Hope to attempt to explain it to others half as well as you do. Attempt to red pill as many as I can.

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  10. Zephyrbreeze says:

    It’s Pence.

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    • Sonia says:

      The circumstantial evidence seems overwhelming, but the financial facts below, if true, are not typical uniparty trough-feeding. Far from it.

      Pence is hardly wealthy. As vice president, he’s making $230,700 a year, which comes on top of his May 2017 financial disclosure that show he was making $109,749 a year as Indiana governor, along with three state pensions for retirement. His wife had no income and his own bank account had between $1,001 and $15,000. Pence also had at least $105,000 in student loan debt for his children’s education.

      Source: Politico: Mike Pence and the art of staying clean

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      • rvsueandcrew says:

        Thank you, Sonia, very much.

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      • zephyrbreeze says:

        Well if it’s a legitimate shot at the presidency, then it would be worth it to him.

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        • jahealy says:

          But … there is absolutely nothing about Pence that screams “I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT.” Nothing. He’s a back seat guy, not a driver. Imo, Pence is his own man, guided by his faith. He doesn’t even appear to have an ego. He is the polar opposite of the vast majority of politicians, except for his speech patterns. Frankly, he bores me to death, but I’ll take boring any day over your garden variety malignant narcissist politician. I’m having a real hard time believing he’s the guy.

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      • hopespringseternal2020 says:

        Could be blackmailed or have hidden foreign bank accounts.

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    • kleen says:

      It can’t be, since he is still around. Trump would have dumped him and found a new VP by now. POTUS knows who has been recommending, key, mafia agents to him. He would have dumped that s.o.b. yesterday.
      Unless POTUS does not know. In that case…

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      • Wow! Just WOW! Pence is an elected official. The President does not have the authority to fire him, even if he wanted to. He could ask the vice president to resign, but the VP could tell him to go pound sand. He was elected to his office by the electorate. He was not appointed to his office by anyone superior to him. Like the president, he can only be removed from office by impeachment or by death, or he can resign his office willingly.

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    • GB Bari says:

      If Pence is a Deep State-allied Swamp Globalist, intent on undermining President Trump & MAGA, he seems to lack the bona fides that would make that apparent, or the associations and historical efforts as a Congressman to push legislation that would support that conclusion.

      He certainly went through many trials and received a lot of vitriol from the Left and pushback from some Republicans when he sponsored legislation that IMO most Treepers and President Trump would fully support.

      Maybe there’s more to his story that either of these biographies don’t mention:
      https://www.biography.com/political-figure/mike-pence

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence

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  11. Snowmaze says:

    Jared Kushner is President Trump’s closest advisor.

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  12. Genie says:

    It is often interesting to go back and look at the timeline Inspector General Horowitz compiled. A lot more could be woven in to it with information revealed subsequent to the investigation, but it just goes to show how weak was the investigation since the dung beetle activities of Wolf and Warner are not even included.

    Click to access abbreviated%20timeline%20horowitz.pdf

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  13. farmerren says:

    I’m going to commit sacrilege. I’m guessing Admiral Mike Rogers. He stopped the NSA queries April 18, 2016 and warned the President Nov. 17, 2017 that Obama was spying on him. What better way to gain trust at the get-go.
    I want to be wrong.

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    • zephyrbreeze says:

      Zero percent chance, IMHO

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    • PaulCohen says:

      Nah, Admiral Rogers does not fit in a bunch of ways. First, there is no way someone of his background (military intel and NSA) would be the main trusted Trump advisor for judging appointments across all sorts of political and bureaucratic positions in many non-military departments. Second, Rogers was closer to Mike Flynn than just about anyone in govt; Rogers cited General Flynn warmly in his own (Rogers) appointment news conference as the key mentor in his military intel career. Third, Rogers is far from a DC swamp rat, he is much more in the mold of Mike Flynn as an aggressive independent minded military intel officer.

      Is it “possible” Rogers betrayed Trump, Flynn, and our country out of some personal ambition or devotion to the DC swamp?? Well, almost anything may be “possible” but Admiral Rogers is very far from the mold of what Sundance has been alluding to above.

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      • G. Alistar says:

        Spot on, #3….excludes the members of the Armed Forces. Anyone like VP Pence who is a temporary DC resident is not part of the swamp. Look to congress ….

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    • threethreethreethistime says:

      Not a chance.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Roscoe Davis and others have stated that it was not Rogers who told Trump about the surveillance of the Trump Tower and caused the campaign to decamp to NJ but Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who is now in the Defense department. He’s bounced around a lot in the administration, NSC to Justice to Defense.

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      • farmerren says:

        I’ll go check that out. Thanks Tars. I like Roscoe too. Wonder why Rogers was reported as the one informing POTUS. Anyway, I’ll go hunting. thx again.

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        • lokiscout says:

          Most likely because Adm Rogers was the one to inform POTUS. I wont spend much time trying to figure out when you stopped beating your wife. Just saying. Everyone has a pet wild goose to chase.

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          • BitterC says:

            FWIW, DiGenova doesn’t speak highly of Rogers. Says he’s dumber than a box of rocks.

            I have always wondered why he waited until Oct, the time for the annual report to the FISC to inform them of what he found in the Spring. He went along with everything that happened

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      • Jenevive says:

        Then why did Admiral Rogers make that sudden trip to Trump Tower
        to talk to POTUS. I am sure he didn;t take time out of his busy schedule
        to go have a diet coke and shoot the breeze with POTUS only to anger
        Clapper and Brennen who wanted him fired after that..

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        • KIMBERLY K HUDSON says:

          Now this is the biggie as far as I’m concerned. For the last three years I along with a bunch of others have been running with the Story the Adm Mike Rogers was who warned Trump about the illegal surveillance he was under.

          That was fake news I’ve been informed directly

          If he cares to chime in and vouch for this he will, but this is huge and explains a few unanswered question I had on the timeline of SpyGate and why Rogers didn’t do more than what he did. It also explains that after he “supposedly” warned the FISC, the Page warrant continued.

          Personally it’s disappointing but it answers question and explains exactly how swampy this damn thing is. Shines a new light on Mike Rogers as far as I’m concerned.

          Also explains a few of his post career speaking engagements and comments he made.

          It was Ezra Watnick-Cohen who informed the Pres-elect that Trump Tower was being surveilled and that’s when POTUS moved his entire transition team to Bedminster, to his country club. That’s a huge revelation after all this time.

          This came directly from a transition team member

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  14. BestBets says:

    A few days ago Sundance posted a picture of the group that was formed in January to address the WuFlu and I got the feeling that we were “invited” to examine that picture for clues. Sitting right next to PT is Mick Mulvaney. Mick is on my short list up there with McConnell and Ms. Lindsey.

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    • Seneca the Elder says:

      Best Bets- So far, I think Mulvaney fits the bill. He is super smart and appeared to be doing a great job before he left. Anyone know why he left?
      Our President Trump is one helluva smart guy, almost impossible to fool him.
      He has outwitted the best and the brightest which is saying a lot.
      I seriously doubt that his own daughter and son in law would be guilty of such treachery.
      MM seems to be at the top of the list.

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    • Patriarch says:

      Potus knows exactly how deceitful lindsey is. He blows him off or plays him.
      Trump wasn’t born yesterday

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  15. bosscook says:

    “DC is petrified of that story” – Petrified. Now what could possibly petrify DC???….regardless of “who” it is, what about that specific person could petrify DC? What gets exposed? That’s what I want to focus on. DC hasn’t shown much fear of anything. Many other people have come forward with incredibly damaging info about the Deep State and the swamp goes “meh”. They believe themselves impervious to anything, especially justice for their evil deeds. Whomever it is, the messenger is inherent to the message. It’s a big enough hammer to actually bring them DOWN.

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    • zephyrbreeze says:

      Petrified because if Pence is replaced with Kristi Noem – she’s be on her way to becoming President in 2024. She attractive, well-spoke, conservative, pro-life, pro-Main Street. The left would have a massive warrior to deal with. Noem is fearless.

      The narrative that it would be the Republican Party that votes in the first female president – their heads would pop like popcorn.

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      • TarsTarkas says:

        Pence’s job is safe. The House would sooner vote for Satan than any replacement for Pence as VP. Pelosi would love to see Pence gone, she would be a heartbeat away from fixing the elections for all time.

        Pence may be an insider but not that much of an insider to have the influence that is being hinted at right now.

        I’m thinking Sundance is very angry because someone he thought he could trust with his brief has turned out to be one of the kingpins of the coup.

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      • SYFer says:

        I’m liking this line of reasoning. And I’ve been seeing her picture on the treehouse wall A lot. Stealing the left’s narratives is the only thing that strikes fear in their hearts. I’ve also felt Pence has lent a bit too much credibility to the whole Covid Fiasco. Perhaps that’s been his assignment?

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Something to think about.

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    • I think the story that DC would be petrified of pertains to The Ukraine and to the monetary kick-backs given to almost every member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and probably other senators. If you recall, Senator Richard Burr, the co-chairman of that committee, was removed from the SIC and was replaced by Marco Rubio. This whole sordid affair involved the son of Joe Biden and large amounts of money paid to him. The SIC was going to investigate Joe Biden’s son, but I have heard nothing of that investigation for well over a month now. Probably, the whole thing has been quashed, but if the details of the affair were to be made known publically, fire and brim-stone might be falling down all over the heads and shoulders of a lot of elected officials.

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  16. Tl Howard says:

    Sundance:
    “the intelligence apparatus and the State Dept worked to assist both the legislative branch and the usurping agents inside the DOJ-NSD.”

    Pompeo was/is a member of both “the intelligence apparatus and the State Dept.”

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    • Tl Howard says:

      And Kansan though he is, Pompeo was no help to pro-Trump Kris Kobach.

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    • abdiesus says:

      Pompeo is a possibility, definitely, and a bigger possibility than most of the others who’ve been mentioned, not because the others aren’t opposed to Trump, but because they are much more obviously opposed to Trump. It seems from how Sundance has worded this, that whoever he’s talking about is not going to be suspected of being a traitor. Originally that would have been Sessions, but from what Sundance says above, it seems this person is still in place within the administration, so that can’t be Sessions.

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  17. deepdivemaga says:

    How has nobody said Lindsey Graham yet?

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  18. CopperTop says:

    I have an inside line long shot none are mentioning: Just a couple of quotes.

    I had him pegged a long time ago as a plotter and the source of the insertion of the Flynn DNI page in the Buzz Feed copy. He needed a handler form Kansas in my opinion. And wouldn’t ya know it before he was SOS …Kansas was in the ‘handling’ business.

    “Dan Coats is a friend, former colleague and patriot who has served Indiana and our nation honorably, twice as a senator and once as ambassador to Germany, one of our most important allies. For the last six years Dan and I worked together on the Senate Intelligence Committee, where he’s been a leader in urging the Obama Administration to go after those responsible for damaging leaks of classified information and demonstrated a thorough understanding of the serious threats posed by the likes of Russia, Iran, and radical Islamic terrorism. I know Dan cares deeply about the men and women of our intelligence community, and I look forward to working closely with him to ensure the Office of the Director of National Intelligence is properly contributing to their broader efforts, and to the security of the American people.”

    “I strongly support the naming of Elliott Abrams as U.S. Special Envoy for Venezuela. While the road to Venezuela’s full reconstruction will contain challenges for all of us, Abrams is a tough and experienced foreign policy expert with knowledge of the region and a long history supporting democracy, human rights, and the national interest of the United States.”

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  19. OffCourseNation says:

    “….And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.”

    I give up. Who is it? Are we suppose to guess it’s Pence?

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    • annieoakley says:

      i remember Bill Binney saying he was sent to talk to Pompeo and he (Pompeo) did absolutely nothing with what Bill had to say.

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      • OffCourseNation says:

        I don’t think Pompeo has cleaned house at State either. Even though that swamp needs it very badly. But would Trump have been listening to Pompeo for recommendations on appointments in DOD, FBI and DOJ?

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  20. President Trump isn’t stupid. He knows that some of the Republicans are definitely corrupt.

    But, even the worst Republicans, and believe me, they are horrible, compared to today’s Democrats they are angels.

    Simple formula:
    1. During primaries, replace Rinos with MAGA republicans whenever possible
    2. In the general election, vote Red all the way

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    • kleen says:

      It’s impossible! I’ve tried here in Texas. Most people watch MSM, even if you watch Hannity he loves Lindsey Graham. FOX protects and promotes RINOs. They give Karl Rove credibility.
      That’s where most Republicans get their info.

      We treepers are not the majority. It’s difficult to reach the masses.

      Trump could do it(raise awareness against RINOs), but think about the risk. If he campaign against RINOs. But he can.

      So perhaps Grenell can, or Rush ( I think Rush is pro RINO, not knowingly. He thinks they are Republicans)

      It would take Hannity, Rush, Bongino, Tucker, Breitbart, Fox and pretty much all popular figures on the right to expose the RINOs and campaign against them.

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      • jinmichigan says:

        The only person or entity on your list that has shown any inclination to exposing RINOs is Tucker.

        Breitbart and Fox are controlled opposition. Andrew is rolling over in his grave over what has become of his namesake news organization. I tried calling them out on their message boards and they perma banned me.

        Rush is good but is stuck in another era. Hannity is Rush lite and maybe even controlled opposition and Bongino is somewhat of a blowhard but does come closest after Tucker.

        I dont always agree with Tucker, in fact he often infuriates me, but I believe he is all about Truth and Justice no matter your political affiliation.

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        • zorrorides says:

          We voters out in the country who vote R on election day know replacing a Uniparty-R in the primary is really hard. We won’t be able to do it UNLESS &/or UNTIL our Potus Trump goes public and campaigns to vote out the RINOs. Then the people will listen to us.

          Can we elect a President who wants Donald J Trump as primary and senior advisor? Only then can we combine throwing out the rascals with winning elections is 2024, 2026, 2028.

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        • I love Tucker. He puts his neck on the line every evening. May God bless him. He and a little bit of Lou are the only shows I watch.

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        • Peppurr says:

          Tucker is my #1 go to now. I’m fed up with Hannity.

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  21. NWGrassroots says:

    Dave at X22Report said (last night 8-7-20) that Durham has to make arrests-indict by September 4th. I can’t find that anywhere at x22report.com though. Anyone?

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    • Tom Rezek says:

      Don’t think that’s any kind of law according to the lawyer on Hannity who comes on with John Solomon.can’t think of his name.

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    • grenell2024 says:

      No law exists regarding the election and timing of indictments. There’s a redstate article by Shipwreckedcrew about this on their site.

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  22. andythird says:

    President Trump knows how to trap a leak, or a spy, or a plant. He does not get hoaxed for very long, he seems to embody the old saying ‘fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me’. He says he was surprised how deep and wide the swamp is, I believe him, and I do not think much surprised him since then. DNI Coats is a possibility, I guess anyone is a possibility, Rudy Giuliani has been around a long time, too.

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  23. Zephyrbreeze says:

    Pompeo knows all the deep secrets at the state department. Possible, including that Hillary’s deep secrets can remain undercover with him in place. That’s why they would be petrified. Pompeo odds – 20:1

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  24. Retired USMC says:

    Whom ever it is, they need to hang with the rest of the treasonous scum. I am way beyond cold anger…its headed towards the thermonuclear level.

    Liked by 7 people

  25. DeWalt says:

    When Flynn left the White House it was like General Lee losing Stonewall Jackson. Flynn had his handpicked team in the White House with him. McMasters was brought in and got rid of Flynn’s people and brought a Brookings Institute mole with him (Fiona Hill). One Individual McMasters could not get rid of was Watnick.

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  26. zephyrbreeze says:

    Trump is a sharp cookie. After a few of these “highly recommended people” didn’t pan out, don’t you think he’d figure it out and stop taking their advice? But Pence couldn’t be sidelined too easily – and he put him in charge of the covid task force, and we went to hell in a hand basket. Then Trump took over. Is Pence even still in the loop? Has he been sidelined?

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    • alvasman says:

      I’ve wondered about this oddity, as well. With all the conflicting information circulating, I thought: Where’s Mike Pence? Isn’t he the head of the task force? How is it President Trump isn’t giving him the task of bringing reason and clarity to this whole virus-related matter?

      Puzzling to say the least.

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    • annieoakley says:

      My thoughts too. Plus Pence was a Senator before becoming VP? What did Mike Pence do in the Senate?

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      Remember when Pence was given the project of auditing the 2916 election? Cleaning the voter rolls?
      Didn’t he give in about one month later?
      Wa! wa! wa! California won’t co-operate.
      Definitely not Presidential.

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      Remember when Pence was given the project of auditing the 2916 election? Cleaning the voter rolls?
      Didn’t he give in about one month later?
      Wa! wa! wa! California won’t co-operate.
      Definitely not Presidential.

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  27. joseywalesandtenbearsbarandgrill says:

    Rick Perry

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Rick Perry is hardly a person who was whispering in POTUS’ ear about all kinds of appointments. Perry is a TX guy, knows those people. This has to be someone highly connected to the power centers and people of DC.

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  28. Dorothea Brooke says:

    No, is it the couple that was reported on last night by Ned Ryun on Tucker’s show…Katie Walsh and Mike Shields?

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  29. mike says:

    Kellyanne?????
    trusted, prior known to Trump, critical employee who delivered
    dc insider, dubious recent influences – husband George and Canadian Cruz
    Hope it’s not… .

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    • frogman says:

      Trump would not rely on advice from her on senor level personal matters, most likely. While she was a Washington person there was a large gap since she left with VP Dan Quayle; and she was not a senor player.

      She does not like the Bushes. She proved very loyal in the 2016 campaign.

      Some have question her loyalty in the past however. She could have Means, Motive and Opportunity; but unlikely IMHO.

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  30. Bellz says:

    My guess is Lindsey Graham. Watching him defend Sally Yates in that hearing made me sick.

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    • abdiesus says:

      Lindsey Graham is an enemy of Trump, but he is also a known entity – he has a very public history. He is not someone who Trump listens to for anything important.

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  31. borwarrior says:

    Pompeo!

    Sundance suggested it in his tweet yesterday.

    Trust Kansas my ass!!

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  32. Blue Wildflower says:

    Do the envelopes at the bush funeral give us any clues?

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  33. Joe Blow says:

    I don’t doubt for a minute there are any number of people whispering into his ear, even one more so than others. But one would have to believe PDJT is a blithering idiot to keep taking their advice after the way some of these things have turned out. And he ain’t.

    Sorry if that sounds too Trusty Plan for anyone.

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  34. Lisa says:

    Sundance from yesterday

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  35. Bogeyfree says:

    Doesn’t most of the money laundering schemes come via congressional funding for the state Department and then via NGO’s for foreign countries??

    Does Barr have the guts to expose Congress and this corruption??

    I guess one system of justice means you get to pick and choose who and what YOU want to expose.

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  36. burnett044 says:

    I t really does not matter if i know who Sundance is referring to as the one with PT`s ear…
    what matters if Pt knows it.
    Heck , I never cared for Pence or Mitch and would not trust anyone from the CIA …
    as i said I am in no mood for any more tick-tock guessing games……
    the election will be on us before ya know it….and fraud will be hard to beat….
    best we make plans to fight and keep on fighting each day ….for they will never stop trying to take down America..

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  37. joseywalesandtenbearsbarandgrill says:

    JMO but I believe The Donald actually has NO use for Mitch and hasn’t from day 1. The appointment of Mitch’s wife was an attempt to make an attempt to make things easier for Donald and perhaps that was the case. I despise Mitch McConnell as much as Shumer.

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  38. J.G. says:

    I hate to think it was Pence. I like the man and he seems to have been loyal to President Trump, but….

    Pence is the one put in charge of the Chinese virus task force. He brought in Fauci and Birx.
    Both have made a mess of the Wuhan virus response. Possibly on purpose.

    I am hoping Pence brought them in because they were the top doctors specializing in viruses.

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  39. Lisa says:

    this is better as it includes Sundance’s original post also to clarify context of his response

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  40. trishinsouthernillinois says:

    Kelly Ann?
    Evil never Trumper husband
    Devil spawn daughter
    Kelly & husband are dc lawyers.

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  41. Remember in Godfather movie , Marlon Brando tells son Michael that whoever comes up to him to offer a meeting with other side is the traitor… A Great movie … Has Senator Mitch the Bitch been up there lately ? just asking.

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  42. Hugh Jass says:

    Brad Parscale. He’s been PDJT’s right hand man, until being recently demoted. Just my .02$.

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  43. Bogeyfree says:

    I wonder now after another week of travels and conversations if Sundance’s Barr indictment meter is show 75%, 50% or 25% chance?

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    • borwarrior says:

      Interesting question.

      If we are looking at end of Summer potentially for indictments, IMHO it leaves much too risk.

      What if that date slips? Or worse what if it gets pushed beyond the election?

      The information needs to be exposed to maximum sunlight so the voting citizens can make a transparent and informed decision.

      I never understood the 60 day rule to protect election integrity BS. If anything, the opposite logic should apply.

      Expose all corruption to the electorate to ensure integrity and fairness in the election process.

      I would never attempt to consult Sundance as he has excellent instincts.

      But my vote would be move to Phase 2 regardless of comfort level of indictments. This would 100% ensure full transparency. Even with some indictments, how much will really get exposed??

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      • jinmichigan says:

        I think the FBI raids in Cleveland and Miami and Durham requesting testimony from Brennan both point to the Big Ugly being very near. And you dont play this game to ultimately absolve all of guilt. That would take a different route.

        There will be indictments The only question left for me is how high up do they go and will they include treason, seditious conspiracy and/or RICO.

        The American People demand Justice. Deserve Justice. And Justice will not be served if traitors to our nation dont hang in the public square. If that is in fact what happens blood will flow in the streets. We know too much to let this slide.

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        • L. E. Joiner says:

          WE demand justice. The American People are not unified. Maybe half of them know nothing of any ‘coup’ against the President, and get all their news from drive-by media headlines and commentators telling them how nasty “Trump” is (never “Mr Trump,” or “President Trump.” That half are not us. They will all vote Democrat because they “hate Trump.” In all likelihood they will think “the Big Ugly” is just a “Trump scheme.”

          Just warning you. The evidence has to be plain, simple, true, and unavoidable.

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  44. Spangler the Deplorable says:

    SESSIONS

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  45. botchedcasuality says:

    So who can Sundance safely speak with?

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  46. visage13 says:

    “And, worst of all, none of it could have been carried out if there was not someone very close to President Trump, someone very much participating with the effort, who was whispering in his ear about making appointments that were specifically designed to allow the effort to continue.” Come on Sundance, do not leave us in suspense, light the torch. you know you want to, 😉

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    • realeyecandy1 says:

      ONLY Mitch McConnell has so much to do with “appointments” … read that for what it is folks. Have you noticed that MITCH has NOT been included in ANY negotiating with the new stimulus bill

      He is THIS CLOSE to getting his arse beat in KY. For much of nothing I’d donate to loathesome Amy McGrath but I hate her guts.

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  47. PaulCohen says:

    Wellllll…… a recent tweet by Sundance may indeed provide a very strong HINT…..

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1291861630553382913

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  48. owwm says:

    Typo:
    Everyone knew “what” not “was” Ohr’s mission was.

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  49. pawatcher says:

    Trump has been sending the message that our troops need to be removed from other countries and has started the process; America First means defense of America First and foremost has been his message.

    Time to get the military involved in the active coup; treason by elected and non elected government employees has to be handled by the military. The Legislative, Administrative, and Judiciary are unable at this point to police their own and need the real policers to intervene. The swamp is too deep and even the quicksand at the bottom needs cleaning out……….who better to do it than the military?

    Just praying the military leaders are as nonpartisan as I hope them to be; of course there will be bad apples that Trump has already been weeding out. We have the best chance to garner American patriots from the military and the constitution would stand, after all the #1 job of the military is to defend the constitution; this coup is to destroy the constitution for the NWO, reason enough for me to want military involvement. Will the military split and take both sides?? time will tell.

    The Bush Cartel/ NWO is at the root of the coup and Our Trump is upsetting their applecart……..thank God. Time for Trump to have the full might of the USA behind his effort to drain the swamp and stop the coup. I’m ready to say good bye to the Bush Cartel once and for all.
    .

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    • OffCourseNation says:

      “Time to get the military involved in the active coup”

      They have already had some involvement in it. On the side of the coup attempt.

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      • pawatcher says:

        No military action was taken against the military coup participants: who is to do that if not the military?? There are more Admiral Rogers’ types out there than traitors.

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      • gawntrail says:

        H, in his 8 years, fired the America First Flag Officers and promoted up the Deep-State sponsored minions to run things. Correct me if I’m wrong, but promotions after O6 require executive nomination and congressional approval. Who better to insulate the power and cash insiders game than those in each branch that command the budget and promotions processes. Just the insider info on systems testing and replacement is worth BILLION$.

        H may not have been the sharpest tool, but, he knows the hustle. Community Organizing is nothing more than a shake down. Combined with his burning desire to absolutely wreck our Constitutional Republic…… it was all in JAN ‘09 for full throated Communism. He thought his personality was strong enough. But, not enough work ethic was his Achilles Heal. He was the dog that caught the car.

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    • OffCourseNation says:

      “Just praying the military leaders are as nonpartisan as I hope them to be”

      They are very partisan. And that is partisan with a BIG D. You can’t pray hard enough to make them non partisan. Turning things over to the militarily would be the biggest disaster to ever happen to this country.

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      • pawatcher says:

        So you think the legislative, judiciary, and administrative branches are going to be able to police themselves- other than the military, what other source can deal with a coup.

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        • OffCourseNation says:

          The voters this November will have to do it.

          The military would be a “cure” worse than the disease. We are not some South American Banana Republic. At least not yet anyway. The military wouldn’t be anti-coup; they would be a coup.

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          • pawatcher says:

            Have we had the disease before?? When was a coup in the US? A military tribunal is a coup??

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            • OffCourseNation says:

              “The use of military tribunals in cases of civilians was often controversial, as tribunals represented a form of justice alien to the common law, which governs criminal justice in the United States, and provides for trial by jury, the presumption of innocence, forbids secret evidence, and provides for public proceedings. Critics of the Civil War military tribunals charged that they had become a political weapon, for which the accused had no legal recourse to the regularly constituted courts, and no recourse whatsoever except through an appeal to the President. The U.S. Supreme Court agreed, and unanimously ruled that military tribunals used to try civilians in any jurisdiction where the civil courts were functioning were unconstitutional, with its decision in Ex parte Milligan (1866).”

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