Thursday July 9th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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70 Responses to Thursday July 9th – Open Thread

  1. citizen817 says:

    Happy Cursday…

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  2. citizen817 says:

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  3. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Defiled-Minded Professors

    By Pastor Ricky Kurth

    I’m sure you’ve heard of absent-minded professors, men who are so engrossed in their deep thoughts that they tend to lose track of the little things we must all keep in mind in order to get along in life. Well, in Paul’s letter to Titus, the apostle warned the young man about some false teachers, saying,

    “…even their mind… is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate” (Titus 1:15,16).

    From the context, we know that these defiled-minded professors were the “vain talkers… of the circumcision” (Tit. 1:10) who were “teaching things which they ought not” (v. 11). I think Paul called them “defiled” because these unsaved Jews were trying to teach the grace believers in Crete’s churches that they would be defiled if they ate meats prohibited by the law of Moses, for that’s what the law said of such people (Lev. 11:43).

    But it doesn’t say that about those of us who are not under the law, but under grace (Rom. 6:15 cf. I Tim. 4:1-5). Paul just finished saying of us, “unto the pure all things are pure” (v. 15), speaking of the foods we eat (cf. Rom. 14:20). So Paul turned the tables on those defiled-minded professors, and said that it was “their mind” that was actually “defiled” for thinking that way, not the people who ate those meats!

    When Paul said that these defiled-minded professors were “abominable,” he is again turning the tables on those legalizers. You see, “abominable” is another word the law used of those who ate unclean meats (Lev. 11:41-43). So in calling the legalizers “abominable,” Paul is assuring the grace believers in Crete’s churches that they weren’t abominable, their accusers were.

    In calling these false teachers “disobedient,” I believe Paul was again responding to the charges that these defiled-minded professors were levying against the saints. When the grace believers in Crete’s churches insisted that they could eat meats that were banned by the law, they were probably accused of having cast the law behind their backs, for that’s the very definition of the word “disobedient” under the law (cf. Neh. 9:26). But in rushing to the defense of the Cretian believers, Paul points out that the Law teachers were the ones who were really “disobedient,” as were all unsaved Jews (Rom. 10:21) who had not “obeyed the gospel” (Rom. 10:16).

    Finally, Paul calls these legalizers “reprobate” (Tit. 1:16). That’s a word that the dictionary defines as abandoned, and that’s how the word is used in Scripture as well. In speaking of the Gentiles who lived before Abraham, God said that He had to give them up and give them over to “a reprobate mind” (Rom. 1:24,26,28). That’s pretty much the definition of abandonment, and that’s why Paul called those ancient Gentiles reprobate.

    But the unsaved Jews in Paul’s day had become just as reprobate! When Paul says that they were reprobate “unto every good work,” that meant they were totally incapable of doing anything that pleased God. No wonder the apostle Paul, in speaking of both Jews and Gentiles, wrote:

    “God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that He might have mercy upon all” (Romans 11:32).

    Today, unsaved Jews are just as defiled-minded as unsaved Gentiles, but God is willing to have mercy on them all. All He asks is that they believe the only reason they’re worthy of Heaven is that Christ paid for their sins on the cross of Calvary and rose again. If you’re not saved, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31).

    Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
    11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. ….

    15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
    16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

    Leviticus 11:43 Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.

    Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

    1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

    Romans 14:15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

    Romans 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

    Leviticus 11:41 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.
    42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.
    43 Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.

    Nehemiah 9:26 Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against thee, and cast thy law behind their backs, and slew thy prophets which testified against them to turn them to thee, and they wrought great provocations.

    Romans 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

    Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

    Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

    Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: …

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: …

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

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  4. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Watch this 17-minute video before your “Command & Control” superiors remove it from the Internet. It will give you confidence to resume your normal life.

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  5. Robert Smith says:

    Many topics discussed in this 102 minute interview with Jordan Peterson.

    Here one interchange from a youtube commentor:

    Peterson: “It’s not going to do your relationships any good I can tell you that”
    Lewis: “Well, I’m currently married at the moment but I’ll bring that up with him at some point”.
    … 2 years later, divorced.

    Video description:
    As part of our 30th-anniversary dissection of masculinity, Helen Lewis interviews controversial Canadian academic and bestselling author Jordan Peterson about the patriarchy, #MeToo, the alt-right, gay parenting, fascist ideologies, his all-beef diet and much more…

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  6. Garrison Hall says:

    Mexican composer Manual Ponce was good friends with Andres Segovia. I especially like his music because, while it often has charming melodies, it can be played by pickers who don’t have virtuoso chops. Tonight I was playing his prelude # 1 while watching Laura. I’m fortunate to have some guitars that are lots better than I am and which, when the phases of the moon are aligned, actually allow me to sound pretty good. I can think both the guitar and Ponce for that. Playing music on a great instrument is inspiring even if you long ago accepted the fact that you weren’t going to be a great player. Justyna Sobczak is a great player. And what a wonderful guitar she has!

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  7. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Cursday! Pitbulls are outsider dogs, unfairly prejudiced against because of the bad behaviors of their underclass owners. Their tragic fault is that they love to much and become too devoted to their humans—even when their humans teach them to do bad things. For this reason I love to find Pittie rescue stories where these dogs love and loyalty is reciprocated by the people in their lives. They are really wonderful dogs, given half a chance. This story has a very happy ending.

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  8. Lucille says:

    It’s Cursday With Chihuahuas Time…

    Lilac long coat Lilac Chihuahua

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  9. Feisty Hayseed says:

    Charlie Daniels – Late 70’s – Long Haired Country Boy

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  10. Feisty Hayseed says:

    Thought provoking article.

    “… the political left is a tool for a greater agenda. They are being used as a weapon of chaos by globalist interests. This is not “conspiracy theory”, this is a conspiracy fact. Millions of dollars have poured into Antifa and BLM related groups through elitist donors like George Soros and his Open Society Foundation as well as the Ford Foundation. Globalist institutions like these have been influencing the extreme left and promoting identity politics for DECADES. This is openly admitted. What we are witnessing in 2020 is simply the culmination of a half-century-long propaganda campaign that created the modern feminist movement, victim group status, entitlement culture, etc.”

    “The reason for the agenda should be obvious: Chaos creates fear. Fear creates division and crisis. And, crisis creates opportunity (as globalist Rahm Emanuel once bragged). Meaning, the extreme left is going to start a war because that’s exactly what the global elites created them for.”

    “Once we understand that a fight is coming regardless, our task is to position ourselves with the most advantage possible while keeping our culture and our principles intact. This includes our belief in constitutionalism, civil liberties, and opposition to tyranny in ANY form. Winning the fight is important, but maintaining our principles in the process is more important. Becoming a monster to fight the monster is the same as losing.”

    “When the left comes for us (and they will), the fight has to be won by us, not government. We cannot hand even more power to government in the name of security. We cannot become the fascists the leftists accuse us of being.”

    “It’s also the classic false choice narrative: You can choose Marxism and communism, or you can choose fascism. Communism being the elevation of the weak and the oppression of the strong in the name of arbitrary “equality”, and fascism being the elimination of the weak or less fortunate in the name of making more room for the strong. Both sides rely on totalitarian government to assert dominance, and both sides benefit the elitist establishment. The great con is that there is no third option when there is; the non-aggression principle, citizen defense, voluntarism, and freedom.

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  11. Feisty Hayseed says:

    The Charlie Daniels Band – Simple Man (Official Video)

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  12. millwright says:

    Here’s something from other patriots !

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  13. Lucille says:

    China’s massive floods affecting 26 provinces, cities, and 10 million people
    The Epoch Times – July 8, 2020

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    • wondering999 says:

      Praying. Also wish I could get some updates about the floods a few months ago in the North when the dams were breached… Michigan? Is everyone back in their homes and recovered?


  14. Rosco says:

    Intrepid citizen investigative journalist George Webb has recently published to Amazon his first e-book, Awan Minutes To Midnight, chronicling events leading up to and exposing key players in the escalating attempted coup of the Trump administration and violent overthrow of our duly elected government. His intent is to warn and inform those that may be in a position to thwart it.

    Link to Amazon e-book here ==> Available now – how Hillary’s encrypted blackberry network plan and executed coups around the world, the most recent being the Trump Coups.

    Link to video overview of George’s new book, Awan Minutes To Midnight ==>

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  15. Lucille says:

    A tremendous performance…

    Stjepan Hauser and Lana Trotovsek – “Pasacaglia” (George Frideric Handel – Johan Halvorsen) at the Lisinski Concert Hall in Zagreb, October 2017.

    The theme is from the final movement of Handel’s “Harpsichord Suite in G Minor” which Halvorsen expanded.

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  16. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  17. Troublemaker10 says:


  18. Dora says:

    I happen to be reading a biography of RLS and when I came across this portrait, I found it fascinating.


    Robert Louis Stevenson and His Wife
    Painting by John Singer Sargent 1892

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  19. Dora says:

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  20. Dora says:

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    • MIKE says:

      I clicked on the picture, Dora, and the tweet has another pic of this beautiful place as well as an interesting 2 minute interview with Assange on the Media and their role in causing wars.
      In essence; Would we be better off without the media?
      It’d be nice if they at least brought the truth out once in a while.
      Thanks for posting.

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    • mandy says:

      I believe that is the ancient Orthodox Monastery of St. Thecla?

      From April, 2019….


  21. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day for Thursday, July 9, 2020

    “Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto him with psalms.”
    Psalms 95:2 (KJV)

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  22. just stevie says:


    “Ye cannot serve the Lord.” Joshua xxiv. 19

    Have you the slightest reliance on anything other than God? Is there a remnant of reliance left on any natural virtue, any set of circumstances? Are you relying on yourself in any particular in this new proposition which God has put before you? That is what the probing means. It is quite true to say – “I cannot live a holy life,” but you can decide to let Jesus Christ make you holy. “Ye cannot serve the Lord God”; but you can put yourself in the place where God’s almighty power will come through you. Are you sufficiently right with God to expect Him to manifest His wonderful life in you?

    “Nay, but we will serve the Lord.” It is not an impulse, but a deliberate commitment. You say – But God can never have called ME to this, I am too unworthy, it can’t mean ME. It does mean you, and the weaker and feebler you are, the better. The one who has something to trust in is the last one to come anywhere near saying – “I will serve the Lord.”

    We say – “If I really could believe!” The point is – If I really WILL believe. No wonder Jesus Christ lays such emphasis on the sin of unbelief. “And He did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.” If we really believed that God meant what He said – what should we be like! Dare I really let God be to me all that He say He will be?

    Oswald Chambers
    July 9th Devotional


    • Pale rider says:

      When you put all the scriptures like “when I am weak he is strong” or “I can nothing of myself but God in me. “ then when Christ said “only one is good” or “you being evil know how to give good gifts” in Matt 7. We are evil because we put other issues in front of God. All is evil in place of God but nothing is when he is first. That is HOW and WHY Jesus could not sin. Can we achieve that? Jesus said no, and died for us.

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  23. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the miraculous healing of the deformed woman (Luke 13: 11):

    1. How the Lord placed His hand on the deformed woman and she was made straight.
    2. How my soul is like the deformed woman, stooped down to the earth.
    3. How, if the Lord were to place His hand (His Holy Spirit) on my soul, its infirmity would immediately be healed.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau).

    Today is June 26th on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church and July 9th on the civil or commercial calendar.

    Apostles’ Fast – wine and olive oil permitted

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  24. Dora says:

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  25. Dora says:


  26. Whats the over and under on Epstein’s girlfriend making it through a few weeks
    and still be alive ?

    The first part , like Epstein, will be a gentle fade from the “news”

    Then suddenly, she will be found dead, just like he was, the tape of that area will be missing.

    I swear it’s like Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football.

    We just sit here and watch it over and over. The Clintons and Obama groundhog Govt.

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  27. Gosh.

    What if we started a country where the citizens would be in charge ?

    You know, common folks would elect good people they trusted to help run the affairs of government…….

    Oh, wait….. Nevermind.

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  28. Lucille says:

    Defense Updates – July 9, 2020

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  29. MarcusZ1967 says:

    From now on, the GOP and their candidates, in their ads, need to argue, not to reduce the expenses of government, but to Defund them.

    Think about it – the main complaint we have about government spending (other than not wanting to break the budget) is that the programs don’t work.

    If the programs are ineffective, and don’t truly help those who ‘need’ them, then why should we keep spending on them?

    Defund them:

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  30. Right to reply says:

    Written in 1993, but worth reading – The INSLAW Octopus


  31. mandy says:

    In response to a comment I made on the daily thread, a treeper used the term “SJW cancer.”

    It reminded me of the idea/concept that SIN … is like a VIRUS. Some of the OT used to be REALLY troubling to me – because I did not understand God’s instruction to, basically, “nuke it from space, it’s the only way to be sure.” I mean …. Yikes!!!!

    I cannot recall where I was reading when I happened upon this explanation – might even have been one of the notes in the Orthodox Study Bible. It brought me an “AHA!” moment, one of those points in time where you get such clarity … and you’re stunned that you did not see it BEFORE.

    Sin is like a VIRUS. THAT is why, in the OT, God sometimes instructed His people to destroy EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in a place: it ALL had to go because the virus had thoroughly permeated ALL of it. Seems obvious to me NOW, but you know, I really struggled with it for a long time before that “AHA!” moment.

    Anyway, that term “SJW cancer” made me recall the point of my “AHA!” moment. Hope it helps someone out there…


  32. Ninja7 says:

    FYI, Appears that Intellectual Froglegs has a new video out.

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  33. Lucille says:

    Cursday with Jack Russells…

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  34. Janie M. says:

    Among my favorite music groups in the 70’s/80’s was the Manhattans. I really miss those days. One of their major hits from 1976 was “Kiss and Say Goodbye”


  35. alonzo1956 says:

    Do YOU have a years worth of food, cash and precious metals stored away with the means to protect it? It isn’t a bad idea to work towards that goal. Interesting times ahead and the Boy Scouts say to BE PREPARED, so lets do it.


  36. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You. Also, we pray for Angels to protect and support our Sundance as he works for justice and peace.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  37. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  38. Lucille says:

    MUST SEE VIDEO: The Left Wants to Abolish the Police … But the Black Community Disagrees
    By Joe Hoft – Published July 9, 2020 at 7:37pm

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  39. SanJac says:

    Speakers John Boehner, Paul Ryan, and Newt Gingrich are teaming up to retake the House.
    Pledge any amount and get 5x-matched:
    Why would Steve Scalise send an email for solicitation for donations using “ GOP House speaker series” involving the 3 above ? Is Winred now using trickery to give money to the Rino’s ?


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