Nothing Inappropriate – DNI John Ratcliffe Releases Wiretapped Flynn-Kislyak Transcripts and FBI Summaries (“CR Cuts”) Of Those Transcripts…

DNI John Ratcliffe has released the transcripts and FBI generated summaries known as “CR cuts” from the telephone calls between incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. [pdf version here].

A fast review of the transcripts (also embed below) shows there was nothing inappropriate or improper about the conversations at all.  Quite the opposite: Lt. General Flynn was direct, diplomatic, polite and represented the interests of U.S. policy from both the outgoing Obama administration and incoming Trump administration.

The views expressed by Lt. General Flynn did not impede or obstruct outgoing Obama policy nor did they undermine any position during the transition.  Any media reporting to the contrary was completely false.

The FBI summaries or “CR Cuts”, created by FBI analysts, are what FBI Director James Comey gave to former DNI James Clapper on January 4th, for use in briefing former President Obama.  The summaries are FBI interpretations of what the calls contained.

It has been my long-standing suspicion the FBI summaries (CR Cuts) will not accurately reflect the content of the calls; and were purposefully manipulated by the FBI to give a false impression that Flynn was undermining Obama.  I am doing that comparison now.

Here’s the summaries and transcripts:

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More to follow…

 

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605 Responses to Nothing Inappropriate – DNI John Ratcliffe Releases Wiretapped Flynn-Kislyak Transcripts and FBI Summaries (“CR Cuts”) Of Those Transcripts…

  1. James Urso says:

    Why were any of these conversations classified? It is illegal to classify something just to cover up illegal activities or embarrassing information. The only other reason to not release the conversations would be to protect an investigation of those who were illegally spying (Brennan and his Comeys) or an investigation of those who illegally classified this info.

    There are plenty of charges to go around. Those at the top needed their minions to carry the water. Start charging those at the bottom and watch them squeal. They don’t have money to pay lawyers $400/hour. They have a lot to say and I think they will cave pretty quickly. Hopefully, the little ones were smart enough to keep their e-mails, notes, etc. I don’t trust the FBI/DOJ/NSA to find any e-mails based on their track record.

    Now for the icing on this cake, let’s declassify and release all the Special Counsel data of crooked Mueller and Weissman. Those two would literally crap bricks.

    Liked by 25 people

    • Exactly. As Sundance says: Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

      Remember it was Grenell who did that. Barr had authority for over a year and did zilch.

      Get the truth out!

      Liked by 7 people

      • abel says:

        boy i sure hope that this even gets through to anyone. riots and locking everyone in their basement are extremely effective at drowning out the truth about the corruption of the previous 4-5 regimes. this is why all dirt/documents should be released sooner rather than later. you dont give your enemy 4yrs to do fake inquiries, pandemics, and riots.

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      I live in NY– some lawyers here get paid min, $1500.00 an hour. I am almost sure DC lawyers get more plus some!

      Liked by 7 people

    • guest4ever says:

      Oh, James U., THAT would be a beautiful sight to behold!!!!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Daniel M. Camac says:

      James, I’ve got your 6! Perfectly worded post that all will hopefully read. I’m hoping that Durham is doing just what you describe and the little fishies will lead to the bigger fishies that will lead to the f’ing lunkers hiding in the weeds.

      I’ve been following Rep. John Ratcliffe since President Trump won the election and he appears to be a true Patriot.

      His action today shows he is.

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      • Issy says:

        I’ve been telling people that his style is just different from Grenell, who we love, but he is a good man from what I’ve seen and I expect him to follow the law and respond to any reasonable request for information. I believe the job is mostly administrative from what I understand and Director Ratcliffe is the adult in the room to control any rogue operations.

        The DNI was not supposed to be another intel agency as more recent directors seemed to think. The job is to correlate info from all the intel agencies and distribute it appropriately and give The President their best analysis in his briefings.

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    • hokkoda says:

      It’s only illegal if YOU do it. The FBI and DOJ can do what they want to protect who they want.

      It’s like the Nunes memo, back when Pelosi claimed that “people will die” were it released. I read it. A few times. Nothing in it was “classified”.

      I know you’re being sarcastic, but the use of security classifications is simply how they lie to us. The only real justice might have to come in the form of George Floyd protestors burning down the FBI while they’re in DC.

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    • destin326 says:

      Ratcliffe executes a most excellent Grenell. The judges give him a perfect 10.

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    • John Ostrowski says:

      Good points James, and if I come back, incarnated, I will school to be a lawyer. I like the pay. Beats all. Also , the whole bunch in that Congress are rotten, give or take a dozen.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Jederman says:

      Why don’t we walk it back a few steps and ask why would ANY outgoing admin, acting in good faith (which eliminates obama), make a move like this a month or so before the NEW admin steps in? When has this happened before?

      I believe it was a set up from the get go. They weren’t trying to “box in” RU they were trying to box in PT. It’s hard telling but LTG Flynn probably recognized this and was correctly trying to, as a minimum, give the incoming admin a chance at reducing the friction.

      obama and all the Leftys are rotten to the core.

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      • Issy says:

        Jederman: The Russians have some pretty good intel analysis too. I would expect they thought of this as a possibility. Especially seeing as there was no proof of their hacking and they would also be aware that Obama knew that also.

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      • Bill Henslee says:

        Good question, echoing what Gen. Flynn’s deputy, K.T. McFarland has been saying: She believes that Flynn and her were not the main target, but attacked with spying and innuendo in order to get Trump.
        Why? That is the question.Trump was never so far out of the mainstream or a “bad, vulgar” person as to warrant the panic and anti-trump feeling among the Obama administration insiders. That’s silly. No one knew much about his place in the cosmos of issue politics–but the fear was he was an outsider that would destroy the Deep State and its political spying on political opponents. Again, K.T. McFarland gives us another clue to the why. She believes that there was something (data mining of US Citizens opposed to Obama) that was so hugely illegal and seditious that those in charge were willing to go further and risk careers and pension and jail terms in order to keep it secret.

        The use of Hammer and/or Prism–two revolutionary computer spying programs of the NSA–against U.S> citizens as well as the metadata and secret conversations of foreign allies was going to be shocking to the public. We have always considered ourselves as above the secret police state tactics of dictatorships and third world countries.

        The sheep dipping of Hillary Clinton to clear her of crimes was appalling misuse of FBI powers, including Comey’s fatuous statement that he had cleared her. Trump was one of the people in public life who wouldn’t be afraid to open that can of worms and he had the active support of an incoming Director of National Security who once led the chant of “Lock her Up” at a Trump rally.

        Of course the biggest co-conspirator was the mainstream media. Some of them even covered up stories about the huge surveillance that their own reporters wrote about the Edward Snowden revelations about the NSA and the widespread illegal spying for political purposes.

        Clearly all their misdeeds were going to be on public scrutiny when Trump surprised them by winning. The biggest political scandal in U.S. History is upon us.

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    • MJJ says:

      There is no way excusing what actually happen nor justification.

      Most of the uproar due to some Rogue DOJ/FBI broken rules and during an election and traditional transitions and still considers themselves Above the Law. So why not spy on campaigns, citizens and use a combination of congressional media leaks information that would never come out in investigations that never should have been approved, and force them to confessions to crime they did not commit?

      Campaign candidates from GOP Rubio to DNC Clinton “Phony” Russian Trump Dossier, leading to an Illegal Phony FBI Investigation of Hillary Mismanagement of Classified Information, moving onto Campaign NSA Unmasking, using false Logan Act missing changed fraudulent 302s, with Phony DNC Servers never seized on Russian Collusion, causing a Phony Mueller Investigation, with prior Treasury IRS Involvement into the affairs of political groups that used “Chicago Style Politics” with Violations of Constitution Rights of the Candidates, Lawmakers, and Judges are now exposed and with more to come. Even a new Election won’t stop the New Special Counsel Investigations after 2020!

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    • OldParatrooper says:

      The contents of the call aren’t, by themselves, classified, but the fact that they were captured by a classified wiretap are. Release of the transcripts verifies that the Ambassador was under surveillance. Of course, now that that fact is common knowledge, there is very little potential damage to US security to admit it.

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  2. WHERE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES?

    If nobody goes to jail for this and/or gets fired, etc. it will just happen again.

    Sidney for AG, Grenell for Acting FBI Director!

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    • guest4ever says:

      trumplandslide—-I could go for that. Put the good General Flynn at CIA. Oh, I can smell all the lefty heads exploding with this lineup!!!!!

      Liked by 4 people

    • sonoftrump says:

      Absolutely Landslide! I ready for consequences…jail time(lengthy ones), pensions/benefits denied, disbarments…and those financing sedition…firing squads. I want to see it go all the way up the food chain…including Jug Ears and Killary.

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  3. pucecatt says:

    This is interesting they are starting with Flynn because his case is pretty much over, can’t wait to see the malfeasance they uncover prior to Flynn . Bring it ..

    Liked by 6 people

    • guest4ever says:

      pucecatt—And remember all the rest of the malfeasance—-George P (and his new wife), Paul Manafort, and Roger Stone.
      Leftists are scum (and I’m sorry to insult soap scum!)

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  4. Unless I missed ,he did not talk about sanctions

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    • guest4ever says:

      You didn’t miss it. General Flynn never said anything about sanctions!!! It was the filth from the previous admin and their creative writing. I hope General Flynn owns them at least!!!! While they languish away till death at Gitmo!!!!

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      • As a Man Thinkth says:

        There is Russan cross talk in the background concerning American Agencies doing the hacking.???. and attempting to set up a secure video meeting with PTJT on day one…The ambassador clearly stated that the previous administration was upset that they had lost the election …

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        • ann says:

          Yes,, alluding to both Russia and the President elect being targeted.

          Liked by 1 person

        • hokkoda says:

          Not only that, in the last transcript he gives this “sore loser” rationale as the reason the Russians decided not to escalate. Not anything Flynn told them. The Russians looked at the US political situation, realized the sanctions were as much about Trump as about Russia, and so they decided not to exacerbate the problem.

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    • richard verney says:

      Kislyak briefly mentioned them, not Flynn. So what is it alleged that he was lying about?

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    • MVW says:

      ‘Don’t let Obama & team box us in… Keep it cool… Reciprocity…Common interests…’

      One big nothing burger.

      I can understand Obama & team wanting to know what was said, but Flynn & Trump were apparently being left out of what Obama & team were doing to make Flynn & Kislyak fret about Obama trying to poison the relation before leaving.

      Democrats are a horror show and have been that way ever since.
      SPIT!

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      • ann says:

        Aside from the dirty surveillance, I’ve always sensed Obama and Clinton got it wrong from the start.
        The clumsy, inert foreign relations, general botching & meddling, plus
        her succession of shameful bribe taking for play created unneeded animus with Russia.

        In my opinion, Russia’s lack of respect was understandable. ,
        I was looking forward to having a clearsighted, less swampy State and /NSC.

        Russia,mParaphrased “Keeping cool heads”, not letting global temperature rise,
        Re Syria, Middle East , define differing and shared positions ,

        mutual concern that transition may escalate tensions

        NOTE: : wracheting up tension and aggravating conflict was & still is the ongoing policy of the Democrats & Obama administration towards our country,
        The DNC has busily undermined and tried to constrain Trump’s more positive but pragmatic foreign policy since late autumn 2016,

        desire to restabilise Middle East. What is this?

        We, our country’s security has to suffer because success would accentuate the hot messes made by the prior two administrations ? hot messes?

        I’m a military guy, not a diplomat, solution focused, ,

        This general mindset and approach to foreign policy is a major factor in my voting & ongoing support of President Trump and his administration., How dare they!

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Doesn’t even matter….
      Flynn doesn’t say DO NOT RETALIATE or DO NOT RESPOND

      Flynn actually says to make the response RECIPROCAL.
      (Their emphasis not mine—they literally ITALICIZE that word in the transcript)

      He fully understands that politically they may have to.

      Can you imagine what the last 4 years would have been like if he’d been at the helm?
      Infuriating.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Issy says:

        Krashman: What a waste of a good man who could have been so much help to our president and the country. That was the whole point though. I just can’t understand such evil.

        Liked by 4 people

      • hokkoda says:

        He also does not condition the relief of sanctions on UN voting. That was a big element of the media lying about Gen. Flynn.

        Judge Sullivan accused Gen. Flynn of “selling out” America. I’d like Judge Sullivan to show me exactly where in these transcripts Gen. Flynn is guilty of selling out his country…

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        • Issy says:

          hokkoda: All I want from the judge is to shut up, do his job, dismiss the case, and retire. I don’t think he is or probably not ever was qualified to be a federal judge.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Trying to figger how this plays out.
          I don’t believe for a second Sullivan hired BW to explain HIS reasons for his Amicus decision.
          Appellate courts do not hold trials and lower court judges are not appellees in their own case which doesn’t apply here since the case hasn’t been decided in the first place.
          (Ow my head hurts)
          My hunch:
          Sullivan does NOT comply.
          (Requests more time/Requests hearing/No response)
          DC Circuit orders Sullivan to dismiss (I assume Sidney will amend her writ to include the transcripts)
          Sullivan does NOT comply
          Not a lawyer so I don’t know what happens after that.
          Can the Appellate court simply dismiss the case outright on it’s own?

          We are in GD Disneyland here.

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          • Issy says:

            Kashman: More like tutti fruity land. I’m not a lawyer either, but I assume they can recuse him from the case if he refuses to follow their order. Lawyer help needed on this assumption..

            Liked by 1 person

          • hokkoda says:

            They would remove him as the judge, appoint a new judge, and then order the new judge to dismiss the case.

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          • hokkoda says:

            We’ll find out on Monday what Sullivan plans to do. I think he’s going to try and argue that the DOJ is only acting out of political motive. I doubt the Appeals Court buys this argument. The law doesn’t really require a litmus test of the prosecutor’s motive to dismiss EXCEPT to prevent the prosecutor from withdrawing and refusing charges again and again to persecute someone.

            That’s why DOJ moves to dismiss “with prejudice”. They’re saying the case is closed forever. Since DOJ is clearly not dismissing in order to bring charges again later, the Appeals court probably just appoints a new judge with orders to dismiss the case.

            I also think Sullivan is setting himself up for disciplinary action.

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            • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

              Exactly “with prejudice” destroys Sullivan’s only argument.

              BTW: On another topic
              I don’t see anyway that Rosenstein can answer a single question in his SJC testimony
              I expect he will Plead 5.

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  5. Bogeyfree says:

    Maybe I missed it but do we know where this declassified call transcript came from?

    Did Grenell get it from the UK? Did he get it from the FIB? Did he get it from the NSA files?

    Also we know that the UK sent to both Rice and Flynn a Memo shortly after the Nov election.

    Do we know if those letters have been declassified by Grenell??

    Now that Grenell is free and has some time on his hands, has anybody gone to his twitter page and invited him to read and post if he wishes at CTH??

    Having both Sidney and Ric would be incredible. Just a thought for anyone who tweets.

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    • guest4ever says:

      So, that right there, Flynn receiving the Memo from the UK disavowing Steele, told Flynn that garbage was afoot!

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Didn’t he say it wasn’t our product?

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      • felipe says:

        Robert: Yes, Ric did say “it wasn’t our product” and my understanding, I think from this site, was that meant not from within the IC community, but not necessarily including what the FBI might have from their own sources.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      McCabe in his book says
      “the CIA had the pen on that”

      But who the hell knows if that is true.
      The tech cuts read like they were written by Charlie Brown’s teacher.

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  6. doyouseemyvision says:

    I have a question. How do these new facts factor into Pence declaring that he was lied to, therefore recommending LTG Flynn’s termination?

    Liked by 6 people

    • ms doodlebug says:

      It may be a personal failing on my part but I instinctively distrust people who come across as sanctimonious. I am not comfortable with VP Pence.

      Liked by 6 people

    • FPCHmom says:

      He based that on what Sally Yates told him. They were all lying about what Flynn said in order to get him fired.

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    • Flynn didnt lie ,he told them he did not talk about sanctions, he didnt.
      The FBI and Yates told them he did
      Yates and Mary McCord lied to. McGahn .
      Muellers team lied to the court.

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    • BitterC says:

      Pence knew all along what was discussed. But when they leaked the call on 3 days before his appearance on MTP, the White House had already denied Flynn discussed sanctions.
      Pence cont’d that lie on MTP. Sally Q and company more or less called Team Trump out for lying to the public so Pence (Trump?) decided to blame Flynn for lying once they were caught out lying to public, which is SOP for administrations

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  7. guest4ever says:

    Robert–As Dan Bongino says, “The conservatives believe liberals are people with bad ideas. Liberals believe conservatives are bad people with ideas.” Hope I got that correct; it’s close. I’m sure he’s referring to the modern/current use of the word liberals; not the traditional and correct use of the word!

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    • KBR says:

      Not this conservative.

      I think liberals-meaning Democrats-are evil, possessed by demons, working for the very Devil. And that their supporters are WILLFULLY blind.

      And I don’t care what Bongino has to say, I think a lot of other Trump- conservatives might agree with me..

      When I pray for my enemies, I pray that they be released from possession and their blindness be cured.

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  8. samwise163 says:

    “The Honorable Feinstein, Rubio, Warner, and Schiff”…

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  9. Nagothm says:

    No wonder the Obama crowd were so desperate to keep this transcript under wraps. A great big nothing burger would have shown them for the seditious clowns that they are.

    Liked by 7 people

    • Robert Smith says:

      Plan C
      Valerie Jarrett came out in support of mail voting today.

      Liked by 3 people

      • ms doodlebug says:

        So Barrack’s nanny encourages mail fraud. What a surprise.

        Liked by 7 people

        • jaggggg says:

          They’re planning on cheating as much as they possibly can this election. They have to in order to protect the ENTIRE Democrat party. Note Biden and others asserting that “Trump won’t leave if he loses”. Why would anyone suggest something like this? Where do they find the evidence to back it up?

          They’re setting the narrative; massive cheating is found, Trump questions it, they come out with “We told you he wouldn’t leave! He’s a DICTATOR!”. It’s high school sophistry at best but might be good enough for the MSM to carry for them. Republican’s better get prepared for this or they deserve to lose.

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          • ms doodlebug says:

            They can try but cheating won’t help them. The democrat leaders have lied and cried wolf too many times. At the same time, blue state governors have given them a small taste of what it’s like to have dictators running/ruining their lives. The people are seeing who the dictators are – and they are already beginning to rise up against them.

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  10. waterthelibertytree01 says:

    Now they’re all REALLY CAUGHT!!!! Expect the indictments in the coming week!!!! If I am wrong, i am wrong.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      We’re getting there.
      You know what’s funny? Let’s say all this, it a lot of it, got busted out when the Nunes memo came out. And they still worked the Ukraine impeachment…

      They won’t stop. It’s clear it’s an all-or-nothing fight. Complete victory or defeat.

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      • waterthelibertytree01 says:

        The Left is all in the death throes, the race baiting and riots are Soro$ 101….same old tactics.. Hold the line everyone. Good vs Evil

        Liked by 3 people

        • twinkiethekid2 says:

          I would more characterize them as the rabid dog or maybe just another zombie. Both will fight until they are put down and I’m wondering how many more bites they have left. Hopefully few if any…

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      • delighteddeplorable says:

        Complete victory. If anyone can do it, POTUS can.

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      • KBR says:

        Convictions of press/intel might go a long way toward taking out their main weapon.

        Freedom of press is not freedom to commit sedition.

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      • As a Man Thinkth says:

        Accelerated kamikaze attacks from the left and MSM since Barr arrived on the scene…
        As Sundance has pointed out, there are Trillions at stake, years of corruption to hide and dozens of mysterious deaths to conceal…
        Yes, Kamikaze, perhaps jihadious, suicide bombers all share the common element of “offensive”destruction…

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    • WES says:

      Water:

      So far Barr’s record is perfect.

      None of the guilty have been charged.

      None of the innocent have been found innocent.

      No one will be charged.

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      • waterthelibertytree01 says:

        Wes, lets just wait another week and see who the first one is to walk the plank. You realize this isn’t some easy case to pull off right? The case has to be airtight. The fact that we have all the declassification now pretty much in hand sans a few more docs…..this means the case is airtight. Public must digest that outside of CTH and the other real independent journalist media. If a Grand Jury can’t come back with a certainty on a case, they don’t go forward. To me…..we are on the precipice.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          You do realize that we have spent years just waiting. Trusting the plan. Tick tocking with baited breath. And so forth.

          Show us the perp walks. Call CNN to air their arrests live. Roll out the indictments.

          We could literally be facing a now or never situation. Should Biden win there will never be another chance.

          How long will it be before some joker is telling us to just wait until after the election?

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          • Issy says:

            Jim in TN: I never spent a second trusting the plan. The only plans were those of the coup plotters, and Trump has been quite busy pushing forward with his agenda and staving off the attacks as they popped up.

            The only thing I ever put any faith in was him and his ability to stay a step or two ahead of them. Now that he has more support, getting a few people in key positions and the GOP realizing the futility of thwarting him, I suspect he will go on offense.

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      • madeline says:

        No one will be “EXONORATED”…

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  11. puttiolus says:

    This conversation needs to take place in public. Right now, the top tweets about the Flynn transcripts are from blue checks who are claiming that Flynn is obviously guilty and is getting what he deserved. Obviously, the truth is that if the transcripts showed anything bad (which they don’t), Gen. Flynn would have been charged with something worse than false statements (which he wasn’t). There exists in this moment a great opportunity to demonstrate exactly how corrupted the FBI and the political use of surveillance had become. In some ways, the battle lines are already drawn, and the die-hard supporters on each side are solidified in their beliefs. Right now, especially now that the transcripts are out and the charges from the SC are out, it is important to appeal to the independent folks, who are open to the most rational arguments. There is a HUGE opportunity in this moment to sway public opinion in our favor. Believe me when I say that the words of Grassley (or any other Republican politician) are not enough to swing these individuals. We need to reach out across the aisles and be reasonable voices in these insane times. Godspeeed, patriots!

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  12. Mr.Morris says:

    The hell that President Obama and his minions including most of the propagandist press put Lt. Gen. Flynn, President Trump, George Papadopoulos and other Americans through is beyond the pale. I will never forgive President Obama, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and the press for the ugly con they put our country through. They lied with impunity and did irreparable harm to our country. They should be scorned, never to believed. They initiated a coup, I hope they rot in the hottest fires of hell.

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  13. Perot Conservative says:

    Any Mueller team member should bear a Scarlett letter!

    *** Slaps forehead ***

    Dirty attorney Brandon Van Grack was a member of Robert Mueller’s team!! Hello!!

    How many other members of RM corrupt team members are still involved in key positions?

    WHY is AG Bill Barr so naive … or is he complicit?

    Why aren’t these 40 or more attorneys and investigators shipped to Timbuktu – or fired for gross incompetence?

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    • waterthelibertytree01 says:

      He’s not blind…..Jensen has the Mueller Team in the corrall

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    • bluebongo says:

      I would prefer they get it Inglorious Basterds style…… carved in their foreheads.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Or maybe he’s doing it “by the book”?

      You are like a child demanding action to satisfy YOUR needs.

      Barr can’t move until he has every duck in line and every i dotted. He needs to make very sure he has the goods on these very high lever actors—-Comey, Brennan, Clapper—-before he moves. Going after Ohr or McCabe or Strzok BEFORE you have the goods on those who directed them would be stupid…especially if he thinks that Strzok or Page or McCabe won’t flip.

      Trump and Barr are going to get one shot at this. They have been fighting 90% of those inside the beltway. It’s taken 3 years to figure out who they can trust or not.

      In the end, maybe you are right about Barr. I don’t think so, however. Not based on what he has said several times.

      Take a chill pill…..things are starting to move. Like an avalanche, it’s going to get big very fast.

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      • mimbler says:

        That is the opposite of how crime is normally prosecuted. You act against the underlings first, so they have a motivation to testify against their bosses.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          If you are really lucky and really good you get the underlings to roll over on the boss before the boss knows so you can get the boss too.

          But, so far, we don’t even want to get the Boss. He has been declared off limits.

          And every time someone rolls out lines like grasshopper’s, (which happens a lot on this website), it has always proved that nobody was rolling over on anybody else and not even the underlings get charged. The worst that has happened is to be fired. And quite a few seem to be rewarded for their malfeasance, not punished.

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          With the technology available today, it’s no longer efficient to do it the way it’s always been done. Today they have irrefutable written and recorded documentation damning the ring-leaders.

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        • starfcker says:

          Thank you Mimbler.

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        • L4grasshopper says:

          This is as far from a “normal crime” as you could imagine. It potentially involves some of the highest ranked officials in the government….maybe even a President.

          Unless you get a voluntary underling to “sing”, you don’t squeeze because you could prematurely wreck the possibility of higher level prosecution. I’m convinced the deferral to indict McCabe for lying to the FBI was an intentional choice designed to preserve other investigations.

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            Ding ding ding

            brilliant reminder that THEY there are indicators THEY ARE going after THEM

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          • mimbler says:

            Still don’t see how you get the big guys without the little guys ratting them out. Don’t see why the size of the crime changes that.

            I respect that your view is different.

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      • MAGA Minuteman says:

        I’m with you L4grasshopper. Slow and steady wins the race.

        In order to keep things in perspective, I think it’s important to keep in mind what race we are trying to win. We are not interested in just arreseting a few people. What good does that do? We are interested in arresting the process which allowed those people to carry out their seditious deeds. “This can never happen again to another President or our country”.

        Taking on the deepstate is no easy task, especially when they are dug in like ticks. Similar to ticks though, they are feeding off of and sickening the host (USA), us!

        I see all over these threads, “They lied, when will there be perp walks?” “No arrests means this is business as usual, another cover up”. I can see why people feel this way, however, I believe this time is different.

        Did people lie? Yes. Did people try to weaponize our intelligence agencies? Yes.
        Did people try to sellout out our Country for their own personal power and control? Yes. Is this their first rodeo? No. It’s been going on for decades if not longer.

        So what’s the difference here? Quoting the President, “We caught them all”. That’s the difference!

        For those here who are impatient, hold your fire. It’s coming to a stop NOW with a slow and steady roll out. There’s no need to be impatient now. We are starting to see the whites of their eyes (a la Schiff). The do nothing Repubs are exposing themselves as members of the Uniparty. That is all part of the battle prep. Please keep the fire in your belly (Cold Anger), but hold your fire and give the rest of society time to catch up. In battle when a scout finds the enemy, he doesn’t start shooting, he circles back and reports his findings to rally the rest of the troops.

        The rest of society doesn’t have Sundance and crew keeping them well informed and educated every step of the way. I guess in that sense we here are all scouts.

        The timing of the rollout is strategic. I expect it will take place in perfect timing for the elections. Our VSGPDJT has an impecable sense of timing and was after all a media genius before taking over the reins of our country.

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  14. Nessie509 says:

    This is how PolitiFact explained that President Trump’s claim he was tougher on Russia than Obama had been was mostly false:
    “On Dec. 29, 2016, Obama ordered 35 Russian diplomats and suspected intelligence agents to leave the United States, and he also imposed narrow sanctions on some Russian individuals and organizations.”
    As others have pointed out in these comments, Flynn asked the Russian Ambassador not to escalate with an expulsion of more diplomats than Obama expelled.
    General Flynn did not address Russia matching, but not exceeding US sanctions.
    Count on Our Mainstream Journalists to conflate the two separate actions Obama took after the 2016 election to prove Flynn lied.
    Sadly, this conflated issue is beside the point. DOJ wants to drop the whole damn claim. Case law supports DOJ’s right to do that.

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  15. waterthelibertytree01 says:

    As long as they get the indictments rolling on the 2016 Coup stuff, then the other AG’s can work the many other Obama admin cases afterwards……they got both administrations layered in crimes.

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  16. Snailmailtrucker says:

    Do y’all know why Twitter, Facebook and all of the other LibTurds are as Morally Dishonest as they are in Public ?
    Have you noticed how the White House Press Corps is much Nastier than they ever were to any American President before POTUS Trump ?
    The rest of the Main Stream Media are taking their clues from them…and saying and doing anything that they think they can get away with!
    POTUS Trump is just too nice of a guy to Slap the Schiff out of Acosta and the rest of those Clowns…. he should just throw the whole bunch of them out on their azzez !
    I saw today yje White House was Locked Down….WITH THE PRESS CORP ON THE WHITE HOUSE GROUNDS….I only agree with that if they were Hunting the Press Corp down !

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  17. USA Citizen says:

    It’s the Democrat’s fault that we have so much unrest and violence now. The people were forced to stay in and that caused so much friction and anger that when something happens, the people go crazy. The Democrat Governors of their states like, New York, Minnesota, California, etc., are responsible for the lock down that caused all this frustration. Blame the Democrats for the violence in Minnesota. Do Not vote for Democrat Joe Biden in 2020, or things will get even worse in America. Vote for President Donald Trump in 2020, so we can go back to work and make this country whole again, and have PEACE.

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  18. TwoLaine says:

    This is Dan Bongino’s extended interview of Sidney Powell last week. They talk about the alleged “sanctions” conversation in here. I do not recall where, but am listening in again to target it.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Man, it’s almost right away, at 07:30. The sanctions discussion. VERY worth listening to in regard to the Flynn/Kislyak call. Queued & Ready!

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      • ann says:

        Thank you.

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      • MVW says:

        I cannot see how Flynn take down would work without Pence doing exactly what he did.
        Hand in glove, too coincidental, too much work to set this up to get Flynn fired to leave this detail out to chance. Pence was a central piece.
        Pence is dirty. I am sorry.

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        • TwoLaine says:

          Wrong.

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        • TwoLaine says:

          You have to remember the Sally Rice/Mary McCord dog & pony show that informed Don McCahn that Flynn was a liar, couldn’t be trusted, was open to blackmail, etc…, and they sat Don until they got Flynn fired. That was the objective, plain and simple. We saw it with our own eyes, and Michael Flynn fell on his sword before they could blow it up for President TRUMP and resigned.

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          • WhiteBoard says:

            COUGH COUGH

            and the Vice President of the United States cant direct these worthless slimes to show him the evidence within the next 20 minutes or they are finished?

            Quit acting like the VP works for the pathetic comey

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        • doyouseemyvision says:

          Something doesn’t sit well with me either. Then Pence, as Task Force head, not questioning the crap Imperial College Covid-19 model which he used as THE basis to recommend to Trump to shut the country down mere months before the election. Pence was either naive, stupid or complicit to not probe these models hard. He doesn’t like confrontation or challenge people which is not good in his role. Silence from him during the impeachment, the Mueller investigation, scant public support for Trump over these last 3 years. Pence’s recommendations on firing Flynn could prompt Trump to replace him on the ticket.

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      • Issy says:

        TwoLaine: You’re doing yeoman’s work researching things for us, Thanks

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      • dawndoe says:

        Thank you for posting this interview!

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    • TwoLaine says:

      Sidney also believes they expelled the Russians as a trigger to trip up Flynn. I have always tho’t this as well.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      I really like that photo of Sidney Powell. That smile, the sparkle in her eyes. I love that she looks rested and happy.

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  19. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    Apparently the FBI farms out their transcriptions to Jar Jar Binks….
    or maybe a 2 year old.

    What the hell is with the Pig Latin in the “Tech Cuts”?

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  20. French Brinton says:

    Question? Does anyone here remember anything that has been declassified so far, that has all of information of where it originated from declassified. The entire header is classified. Why? Where is this from?

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    • French Brinton says:

      Correction

      Question? Does anyone here remember anything that has been declassified so far, that has all of information of where it originated from BLACKED OUT. The entire header is classified. Why? Where is this from?

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  21. Lawton says:

    Just noticed Powell was actually taking a jab at Judge Sullivan with her digust and disdain comment about this. He used those words to Flynn when he said all his lying BS that day.

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    • Issy says:

      Lawton: The judge should have been recused for that display of unprofessionalism and ignorance of the case. How can anyone have any respect for a judicial system that allows judges to act as Sullivan did?

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  22. jx says:

    The DOJ – Sessions, Whitaker, and particularly Barr – knew this and allowed the lie to continue for years.

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  23. If this happened in the 50s, the “sisters” at Shawshank would certainly welcome Swalwell and Shiff.

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  24. Donovans Trigger says:

    My Dream Conversation during a Civil Trial toady in Front of Judge Sullivan-

    Me: Your Honor may we approach the Bench?

    Judge Sullivan: Yes.

    (We go to Judge Sullivan at His Bench and whisper)

    Judge Sullivan: What is it Counselor?

    Me: Your Honor, the full transcripts have just been released. My clerk just sent a text on my phone. Judge, many members of the Bar have suggested that you already had leaked copies many months ago, but I’ve repeatedly ignored those rumors. But holy fire Judge these are hot!

    Judge Sullivan: This is a civil trial Counselor, why are you bringing up Sydney’s case with Flynn? What are you requesting here?

    Me: Judge, in light of the release of these transcripts that Sundance shows on Conservative Treehouse —- well, Judge, maybe we should take an afternoon recess????

    Judge Sullivan: And why would I do that?

    Me: Because Judge, now that the shit has hit the fan–you are totally, completely and utterly screwed. Any judgment you make on this case and all others on your docket will be subject to appeal. Your honor, not that it’s my business but you really are toast. Anything you do on this case that does not help my client I will appeal. And I will win because you are finished.
    You have just lost your entire career.

    Judge Sullivan: Screw you Treeper. Go sit down.

    Me: Ok Sulley.

    (We walk back to our tables)

    Judge Sullivan: Members of the Jury, Counsel for the Plaintiff has asked for a recess so he can attend to an important mental health emergency. This court will be recessed until 10 AM Monday morning. I instruct you that none of you are to read or visit The Conservative Treehouse website or allow yourselves to have contact with any persons that read it so as not to prejudice you against this court. And please, practice social distancing and wear a mask. Have a good weekend. See you Monday.

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  25. L4grasshopper says:

    A comment about Hannity — you would think that Mr “Tic Tok” would be all over this release.

    But noooooo! Channeling his inner Geraldo, he’s been nonstop Minneapolis on his show for 3 straight nights!

    What a tool…..

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  26. Mr e-man says:

    I can see it in the redactions with my superpower. Flynn thanked him for the Clinton emails that helped Trump get elected. Grenell is just covering it up for Trump by redacting it from the public.

    -future tweet by Eric Fartwell, (D) Facism.

    Every time he lets one rip, his eyes are able to see right through redactions, testimony, truth. He is a fartminder.

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  27. marmocet says:

    Did everyone catch that? Kislyak tells Flynn exactly why Moscow had such a muted reaction to Obama’s expulsion of their diplomats and the sanctions he imposed on them. It was because they thought Flynn’s argument to react that way was reasonable and because they fully understood that the incoming Trump administration was just as much a target of Obama’s executive order as they were. They knew Obama was trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

    Since we know they were all eavesdropping on these phone calls, I think we can now say with 100% certainty that Obama administration officials were lying through their teeth when they claimed they were totally perplexed as to why Moscow’s response to their provocation was so measured.

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  28. MVW says:

    From everything that has happened and continues to roll out including the latest riots…

    The CIA is continuing its ‘Take Down of the Republic’ operation. What more does it take to see it, one coincidental staged event after another, right out of the well tested, tried and true playbook. (I will admit that the plague was a new one, but the plague scenario has been practiced for how many decades?).

    Surely Trump has been preparing for this and knows the source of these OP’s? Is this Trump’s operation ‘Billboard’ to catch the CIA in the act as well as their Big Spider in the web?

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  29. Auwtsnae says:

    If the Democrats’ contention is that Flynn obstructed Obama administration foreign policy, then an escalation of sanctions, potentially leading to an international crisis, appears to have been their goal.

    Flynn simply asked the Russians NOT to escalate the situation.

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  30. Barnestormer says:

    The heart of the “lied about sanctions” hoax is revealed on pages 9 and 10 of the Dec. 29 transcript.

    Flynn brings up the subject of Obama’s expulsion of the Russian diplomats. He concedes that Russia is likely to reciprocate, but warns of the danger of escalation, using numbers to make his point.

    Kislyak says he understands, but introduces a separate concern:

    Kislyak: We agree. One of the problems among the measures that have been announced today is that now FSB and GRU are sanctions, are sanctioned, and I ask myself, uh, does it mean that the United States is not willing to work on terrorism threats?

    Flynn: Yeah, yeah.

    Kislyak: Because that’s the people who are, uh, fighting the terrorists. [My emphasis]

    Flynn: Yeah, yeah, yep.

    Kislyak: So that’s something we have to deal with. But I’ve heard what you say, and I certainly will try–

    Flynn: Yeah

    Kislyak: –to get the people in Moscow to understand it.

    So, in a discussion about the expulsion of diplomats, Kislyak adds the incidental observation that Obama’s sanctions managed to compromise two Russian agencies engaged in anti-terrorism. And Mueller’s gang contorts Flynn’s non-recollection of that aside into a §1001 violation.

    These people are dangerous.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      I wonder if Kislyak informed the Small Group of this part of the conversation specifically to entrap Gen. Flynn. He may have even intentionally mentioned sanctions to do so.

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      • Flynn himself also brought up fighting terrorism as a goal previously. It was the centerpiece of good relations between the two countries. So when Obama tried to demolish that through the sanctions, it would be natural he might bring it up.

        I’m not dismissing your idea…. its certainly possible but if his idea was to set Flynn up, he should have said a lot more stuff. All of it was normal and innocent banter.

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      • Bromdale says:

        The question from Kislyak doesn’t seem to fit with the flow of the conversation, and it’s a rhetorical question, because Flynn has already made his position entirely clear. That suggests that it was inserted into the conversation deliberately. Then again, when Flynn doesn’t take the bait, there seems to be no follow-up, so it’s not possible to draw a firm conclusion.

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    • marmocet says:

      There are two ways to interpret what Flynn meant by “yeah, yeah,” and “yeah, yeah, yep.” Neither of them is good for the Russiagate conspirators.

      The first possibility is that he was telling Kislyak that yes, the United States is indeed not willing to work together with Russia on terrorism threats. If that is what Flynn meant, then it would be fair to characterize Flynn as having discussed “U.S. Sanctions” with Kisylak, since it would mean he was giving Kislyak information about how the incoming Trump administration views how Obama’s sanctions will be guiding US-Russia relations going forward. But it would also completely squash the whole “Trump-Russia collusion” thesis.

      The second possibility, which I think is more likely, is that by saying “yeah, yeah,” and “yeah, yeah, yep,” Flynn is merely letting Kislyak know that he hears and understands the concerns Kislyak is expressing. If this is the case, it’s hard to characterize this as a discussion about US sanctions, since it would mean Flynn is merely responding to the fact of Kislyak’s concerns without offering any input about their substance.

      The main takeaway from these transcripts for me is that the FBI’s claim that there was something deeply concerning about the content of Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak that warranted further investigation was complete and utter bollocks.

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  31. gueppebarre says:

    Reckon what Swalwell has to say now? He was badgering Grinnell about releasing the xscripts; now they’re released.

    Well, what about it, Swalwell, you miserable wretch?

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Swalwell has said that the transcripts and cuts are proof that Flynn lied. Period. Coward. He’s too arrogant and too far down the wormhole to ever admit error or lying.

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  32. Curt says:

    Just what the hell is Judge Emmet Sullivan up to? We are living in a GD police state….

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  33. hokkoda says:

    Kind of an interesting read, and you have to read the 302 along with it. Almost everything deals with the Middle East and collaborating to find a peaceful solution.

    Kislyak briefly mentions the sanctions, and if FSB and GRU are sanctioned, how does that affect Middle East cooperation. Flynn is TRUTHFUL in the 302 when he says he didn’t tell the Russians not to do anything. The 302 says Flynn wasn’t completely sure of the full content of the call. Hard to make a case for “lying to the FBI” when the guy says he’s not sure, and then says he didn’t tell the Russians to do nothing.

    Also, while they discuss the expulsion of diplomats, they do not discuss the SANCTIONS. Those are two different things. The sanctions pertained to the Magnitky Act.

    All Flynn discusses with Kislyak is not to escalate the “tit for tat” expulsion of diplomats. Sanctions are not discussed by Flynn. He does tell Kislyak – AND THE FBI – that he didn’t tell the Russians to do nothing, but that he cannot remember the precise details of the call. The media is already trying to cloud this. But as a legal matter, the sanctions are not discussed.

    He doesn’t condition the sanctions or any UN votes on sanctions.

    Basically everything Flynn says is something you would expect him to say. The FBI layed a perjury trap to catch him lying. He did not discuss the sanctions.

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  34. hokkoda says:

    I think the transcripts reveal something I wrote last week. What if the point of the sanctions WAS to get Russia to “escalate”? Basically, the sanctions were a time bomb that Obama wanted to explode on Trump.

    Gen Flynn DIFFUSED THE BOMB!!! Kislyak even points this out. I forget the exact words but he says that Russia didn’t escalate because they realized the sanctions targeted TRUMP because the Democrats were upset that they lost the election!

    Remember what Comey and the others said. They were tasked to look for signs of escalation. I don’t think they were doing this as a precaution. Escalation was the GOAL.

    Gen Flynn picks up the phone, and in 10 minutes diffused Obama’s time bomb.

    That’s what flipped the Obama people out. That’s why they set Flynn up.

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    • Clara says:

      Yes! This exactly!

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    • Lee Moore says:

      31 December call :

      KISLYAK “And I just wanted to tell you that we found these actions have targeted not only against Russia, but also against the president elect”

      But we can’tconclude from this, that either Kislyak or hokkoda are genius level analysts :

      https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/29/opinions/russia-sanctions-ghitis/index.html

      “Obama puts Trump on the spot with Russia sanctions”

      If even CNN can work this out, it’s not rocket science. It’s not even pat-a-cake.

      I mean no offense of course, but it is, and always was, crashingly obvious that the Obama Administration’s policy was to make the incoming Trump Adnministration’s life difficult by initiating a diplomatic punch up with the Russkies. And since, at the time, the Obama Adminstration was the legal US government, and the Trump Administration-to-be was not, it’s very clear that Flynn attempting to thwart this policy by behaving in a cool and diplomatic manner was a an obvious and flagrant breach of the Logan Act.

      If the Logan Act is a thing 🙂

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      • hokkoda says:

        I think the average person would be quite surprised to learn that Obama’s actual goal was escalation…and that Flynn diffused the bomb. Yes, the sanctions were a ploy to harm Trump. I don’t think that’s disputed. I think a LOT of people (the ones who read the transcripts anyway) will he surprised to learn that Gen. Flynn not only didn’t sell out his country, but that his actions very likely nipped a major international incident in the bud.

        The transcripts not only reveal that they did not, in fact, discuss the sanctions, and they did not discuss how to end the sanctions, but that in a couple of very short phone calls, Gen. Flynn diffused the bomb.

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        • Lee Moore says:

          They did discuss the sanctions, though there is a lot of confusion about this.

          In Mueller’s statement of offense, Flynn is accused of lying about whether he asked Kislyak “to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia.” Later in that statement Mueller refers to Executive Order 13757, which he then defines as “US Sanctions” and then the statement chatters on about US Sanctions.

          In fact there were two sets of sanctions – EO 13757 announced on 28 Dec 2016, and a second set including expulsions announced by White House press release on 29 December.

          In the 29 Dec 2016 transcript most of the talk in connection with sanctions is about the expulsions. Interestingly, it’s not obvious from the transcript whether Flynn is aware of those expulsions having been announced – it sounds more like he’s relying on rumors. Dunno.

          But because most of the discussion is about expulsions, a meme has emerged that Flynn did not actually discuss sanctions, in the sense that Mueller defined US Sanctions, ie EO 13757.

          But in fact Kislyak did raise the sanctions on the FSB and GRU, which are part of EO 13757. Flynn’s participation at this point is limited to a few “yeahs” before he then repeats his previous point that the Russians should only respond on a reciprocal, even, basis. It is not clear whether he intends this to refer to the FSB and GRU sanctioning as well as the previously discussed expulsions.

          In any event, the brief exchange in which Kislyak raises the sanctions on the FSB and GRU, and Flynn’s “yeah”s do constitute a discussion of sanctions, even if you restrict that term to Mueller defined “US sanctions. “

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          • hokkoda says:

            We have a much different definition of “discussion” in what appears to be a 5 min phone canal in which Flynn says “yeah yeah mmm-hmm” a lot.

            The fact that Mueller had to take a supremely legalistic definition of the sanctions means that Flynn didn’t really discuss the sanctions. The word is used three times in the transcripts. And, the GRU/FSB statement isn’t really about the sanctions. It’s about the Middle East peace cooperation that umbrellas all of the conversations.

            It’s like saying the word apple and then accusing Flynn of discussing Apple pie recipes. This is why they withheld this stuff for so long. It’s also why they didn’t think he was lying. Because he didn’t.

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            • Lee Moore says:

              Yes, it is a bit of a mystery as to why Mueller defined “US Sanctions” by reference to the 28 Dec EO 13757. It would have suited his purposes better just to leave it as a general term which could encompass either or both EO 13757 (28 Dec) and the WH 29 Dec press statement revealing, inter alia, 35 expulsions – because Flynn did at least have something to say about expulsions beyond yeah and uh-huh.

              The fact that he did define it is what makes me wonder whether Flynn actually knew about the 29 Dec expulsions, as a fact, rather than a speculation, at the time of the 29 Dec call.
              If Mueller knew that Flynn didn’t know about the expulsions as a fact, it would make sense that he define US Sanctions in a way that covers what Flynn did presumably know about – EO 13757.

              These people are lawyers – they tend to be careful with words for reasons we have to puzzle out.

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              • hokkoda says:

                Any decent lawyer armed with these transcripts is going to ask a few salient questions:

                – what exactly do you mean by “discuss” sanctions? EO 13757 had nothing to do with expulsions which is the only topic on which Flynn opined.
                – was Gen Flynn provided copies of the WH press release on the expulsions prior to his 12/29 call with Kislyak? (Most likely no)
                – what illegal act did Gen Flynn commit on these calls that predicated an FBI interview?
                – it is being reported in the media that Gen Flynn conditioned sanctions on a UN vote. Where in the Government did the media learn this because it is not in the scripts?
                – is or was it the position of the Obama Admin that their goal was for Russia to escalate? If so, why? If not, then Gen Flynn clearly played a role preventing the escalation of tensions. So again, what is the FBI predicate?
                – the umbrella topic of all these calls is working on a Middle East peace plan with the new Administration. When Kislyak mentions the FSB and GRU with respect to sanctions, he is asking if those organizations will be cut out of the Middle East peace planning. In what way is this “discussing sanctions”?

                Finally, to claim Flynn discussed the sanctions – a word he never once uses – would require that he knew the details of the sanctions. It would be up to prosecutors to demonstrate that he knew the details of sanctions announced the same day as his call with Kislyak while on vacation in the Caribbean. And, that he knew the expulsions were also considered “sanctions”.

                Mueller knew if Flynn’s defense were provided this material, they could shoot 1,000 holes in their case before finishing a cup of coffee.

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                • hokkoda says:

                  Also, I think Mueller had to cite EO 13757 because it is the only official act of sanctions. A press release about expulsions is not “sanctions”, and they would have had a hard time proving Flynn knew about the expulsions and that those were “sanctions”.

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                • Lee Moore says:

                  <i.When Kislyak mentions the FSB and GRU with respect to sanctions, he is asking if those organizations will be cut out of the Middle East peace planning. In what way is this “discussing sanctions”?

                  No, I don’t think Kislyak is talking about Middle East peace planning. That’s not what the FSB and GRU do. They are the Russian analogues of the FBI and CIA (though with a much more impressive body count) and they are therefore the Russian agencies involved in dealing with terrorist threats and intelligence thereon. That’s what Kislyak is talking about. I quite take the point that Flynn’s occasional grunts make it highly debatable that Flynn could be said to be discussing the EO 13757 sanctions. But Kislyak clearly is discussing them. He’s saying – how do you expect co-operation on ISIS threats if you’re sanctioning our agencies that deal with ISIS threats, and are the very bits of the Russian government you need to co-operate with ?

                  I’m sure your lawyerly points are well taken. My point is that, at first glance, going to the trouble of defining US Sanctions as the contents of EO 13757 seems to involve narrowing the general meaning which would otherwise cover the Obama actions of both 28 and 29 Dec. The narrower meaning excludes the 29 Dec sanctions (aka expulsions) which were the things that Flynn clearly did discuss.

                  So why did Mueller aka Weissman do it ? My speculation is that as you suggest, Flynn hadn’t seen the 29 Dec press release. More likely he was just working on rumours or speculation about expulsions. So I’m guessing that Mueller’s definition has something to do with Flynn’s imperfect knowledge at the time of the call and legal difficulties that might arise if it were later shown that Flynn couldn’t have lied about Obama’s expulsions because he didn’t know about them. Perhaps better then to try to pin it down to something he did know about – the events of 28 Dec. Anyway, I expect Sidney Powell knows the answer.

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  35. gsonFIT says:

    “Believe me, Americans did hacked this all”

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    • hokkoda says:

      Lol, yep, I saw that too. It’s like a mini preview of when we find out that the Russians did not, in fact, “hack” the DNC server…

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      • Issy says:

        hokkoda: Crowdstrike was the only one to examine the server. The CEO has said they found no evidence of a hack. Unless I’m confused, we were told by the intel agencies that they believed it was a Russian hack. So… what did they base their beliefs on, a crystal ball?

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        • hokkoda says:

          Crowdstrike sent the FBI a bunch of files. Presumably, the Mueller team did forensics on those files (sent to them by Clinton/DNC contractor with nothing to hide of course).

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        • Lee Moore says:

          I think the CEO said something like they found no direct evidence of a hack. That’s not quite the same as no evidence.

          Conceptually it’s similar to Horowitz saying he found no documentary evidence of bias influencing DoJ investigations. As we are content to infer from A to B, so Crowdstrike is content to infer from P to Q. Opinions will differ, of course, as to how compelling the inferences are in each case.

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  37. gda53 says:

    Gen. Michael Flynn’s ordeal, punctuated by Judge Sullivan calling him a traitor, is probably the closest that America will come to it’s own Dreyfus Affair.

    Unlike Dreyfus, however, Flynn will not need to be pardoned to receive justice, but instead will be completely exonerated by the DOJ.

    Rejoice in that, for it may be THE high point in this s–t-show.

    Then, as now, the Deep State and their cohorts will refuse to concede his innocence.

    And it seems only a few remora will be called to pay the price, not the sharks who suckered them.

    Andy McCarthy
    “….we could see some prosecutions, particularly of officials who can be shown to have actionably lied or obstructed justice. But those dreaming of the big indictment of Obama and his top minions will be sorely disappointed”.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/exposing-the-hoax

    Here’s hoping Andy is wrong……but….

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      If someone like Strzok is prosecuted, and is looking at a few years in prison….he just might testify that higher ups ordered his actions in return for leniency.

      I don’t think Obama will be fingered…but Comey, Clapper, Brennan…..very good chance.

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    • strateshooter says:

      I think he is right unfortunately.
      AsBarr said …abuse of power is NOT a crime . If it was the false and illegal invasion of Iraq would see 43 in gaol.
      Prosecutorial misconduct is not a crime either (it is abuse of power…and can result in disbarment maybe). If it was a crime many attorneys would be in gaol.
      The above are weaknesses in the US legal system I think…which allows powerful people to do bad things.
      BUT… we should all be thinking of actual crimes committed by the DC bureaucrats.
      Lieing to investigators
      Obstruction
      False accusation and imprisonment
      ElectionLaws /
      RICO ?

      THERE MUST BE A GREAT DEAL OF ACTAUL LAW BREAKING THAT OCCURRED in this coup… that could point to sedition and treason.
      THOUSANDS INVOLVED. KNOWINGLY ??? HOW TO PROVE /

      Calling Durham ? Or is he another Huber ?

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  38. Troublemaker10 says:

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  39. Dear AG.Barr,
    Start arresting some people, start arresting any people, just arrest one person…you have enough info to do that right now…

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  40. strateshooter says:

    the best thing POTUS could do today is this,,,
    fire Chris Wray and install Michael Flynn as a temporary head of the FBI or CIA … or make him the NSA.

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  41. strateshooter says:

    Senate Hearings wishes…
    subpoena the following journalists ( at the very minimum)
    Anderson Cooper Jake Tapper Maggie Haberman Ellen Nakashima David Corn Michael Isikoff David Ignatief Devin Bartlet..
    all at the same time, lined up under oath..
    1. Are you or have you ever been a member of a US or foreign (eg. Mossad) intelligence agency ?
    2. Have you ever been paid to plant stories or received favours from a US agency
    3.Were you knowing participants in sedition and treason against the USA ?

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  42. tommyd22 says:

    Obama said his goal was to fundamentally change America…. he succeeded.

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  43. tdwesselman says:

    FBI’s Top Lawyer Boente Gets The Ax — DOJ Goes Over Wray’s Head to Sack Boss & Top Confidant of Rod Rosenstein

    https://truepundit.com/fbis-top-lawyer-boente-gets-the-ax-doj-goes-over-wrays-head-to-sack-boss-top-confidant-of-rod-rosenstein/
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