Should We Prepare to Discover The FBI Never Officially Used The Kislyak-Flynn Transcript?…

You may have recently noticed that Susan Rice has called for the release of the transcript of the conversation between Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak:

(Source and Full Statement)

However, what many people do not realize is the motive for Susan Rice to call for the release of this transcript.  This aspect of the intercepted communication is very interesting.

First, there is nothing damaging in the content of the Flynn-Kislyak call.  We know there is nothing damaging in the transcript because the call was made on December 29, 2016; and the FBI investigators who intercepted the call reviewed the call content; and five days later on January 4, 2017, the same Washington DC field office of the FBI wanted to close the investigation of Michael Flynn having “found no derogatory information.”

If there had been something damaging within the call to either the incoming Trump administration, or Michael Flynn himself, the FBI would not be saying they have found nothing derogatory and they were closing the Flynn investigation five days after the call.

Additionally, we also know there was nothing damaging or inappropriate within the call because Robert Mueller’s investigators outlined the content:

Flynn requesting that “Russia not escalate the situation” or get into a “tit for tat” is not inappropriate, impolite, undermining of Obama foreign policy, or violating any norm of diplomatic political standards during a presidential transition.  Incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn simply said don’t “escalate” beyond standard reciprocity.

So the “transcript” of a call that was already reviewed by FBI investigative monitors -who found no issue- and reviewed by the special counsel -who found nothing of issue-  isn’t going to all of a sudden present damaging optics for the Trump administration three years later.  [I put “transcript” in quotation marks for a reason; I will explain below.]

The bottom line is any transcript released today, if there is one, is a nothing-burger.

So why is Susan Rice advocating for the release of the transcript?

Here’s where things get interesting…

Remember, the objective of Susan Rice and her lawyer, former White House counsel and Obama ‘fixer’ Kathryn Ruemmler, is to protect President Obama and the former administration.   Obama, Rice and Ruemmler know the transcript angle is a nothing-burger; however, the transcript does one thing very clearly…. It puts the burden of consequence for the use of the transcript squarely on former FBI Director James Comey.

I suspect, very heavily, Susan Rice is requesting release of full transcript because she knows it was non-existent to the Obama White House.  That fact puts more distance between Obama and Comey; and that paints the FBI operation against Flynn as rogue. The distance here was/is ongoing goal.

This gets a little nuanced; but the REAL story is in the weeds.

In early January 2017 DNI James Clapper was asked by the White House to find out why the Russians were not escalating the issue over sanctions by reacting with more ferocity to the action of President Obama.  As James Comey testified, the intelligence community was tasked to “review all intelligence for an answer.”

FBI Director Comey reviewed the content of the Kislyak-Flynn interception and briefed DNI James Clapper on the “Flynn cuts.”  The “cuts” are essentially raw intelligence summaries of the intercept.

DNI Clapper requested “copies” (plural) of the intercepted raw intelligence summaries known as “CR cuts” (Flynn is Crossfire Razor “CR”); and using the copies of the intercept summaries DNI Clapper briefed President Obama on January 4, 2017, thereby answering the question about why the Russian’s were not reacting more severely.

However, the outcome of DNI Clapper briefing President Obama, with what Deputy Director Andrew McCabe described as “a summary document” that wasn’t an official “intelligence product”, was the White House now being officially informed of an open FBI investigation against incoming NSA Michael Flynn.  The White House was now infected with knowledge of the investigation…. and that could be a potential problem later on.

The knowledge of an investigation into the incoming administration; and the document trail created by Clapper/Comey; created a need for President Obama to have the pull-aside meeting with FBI Director James Comey the next day, January 5, 2017.

The purpose of the meeting was to create distance from an explosive & political issue.  The outgoing administration needed distance from James Comey.  Everything written in Susan Rice’s memo about the meeting is specifically worded to create that distance.

Susan Rice writes: “The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective”, adding three times that President Obama instructed Comey to handle everything “by the book.”   In essence the way Susan Rice framed the conversation was to place James Comey as specifically responsible for anything that happens.

Now, FBI Director James Comey isn’t stupid, and he would have immediately picked up on how he was being positioned outside the protective wire and completely on his own.  Being a very political FBI Director, Comey would know exactly what the purpose of these specific words and instructions from the President implied.

Rice’s memo, written with the advice of White House counsel, is specifically worded to create distance.  You might say the White House was leaving Comey holding the proverbial bag; and setting him up to be the ‘fall guy‘ if things went sideways.

This is the point where we need to put ourselves in Comey’s very political shoes.  Comey knows the purpose of that meeting.  Comey also knows essentially Obama is saying he didn’t authorize an investigation of Flynn and Obama is not going to protect Comey.

So what exactly was Comey tasked to do on behalf of the White House?

The only thing (provable) the FBI was specifically tasked to do was find out the reason for Russia’s behavior or lack thereof.  That’s it.  Comey carried authority to produce the intercepted “tech cuts”; and as an outcome of the task share them with DNI Clapper. But that’s the end of the White House/DNI tasking authority to the FBI against Flynn.

Director Comey was not tasked, authorized or requested to produce a transcript of the intercepted phone call; and he was not tasked to do anything else with it.  From the perspective of Obama, Comey’s task was complete January 5th, anything more is on him.

The lack of investigative authority toward Flynn is a key point to consider as we look at the internal FBI debate.  Remember, the day before the Obama/Comey conversation the FBI investigators had already determined there was “no derogatory information” and they were going to close the investigation.  Additionally, there was nothing of issue within the Flynn-Kislyak call content itself.

Anything, including legal risk from an abuse of power, after that January 5th meeting was now completely on Director Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s shoulders.

With that in mind, the debate with FBI Director of Counterintelligence Bill Priestap, and the January 23/24, 2017, meetings where Priestap is taking notes of conversations with Comey and McCabe, take on a new and narrow focus.

As Priestap took notes about his original concerns: “what is our goal?”

The FBI small group (Comey, McCabe, Baker, Page, Priestap, Strzok, Pientka) together with the DOJ small group (Yates, McCord, Guahar, Moffa) had proposed a wild theory about accusing Flynn of Logan Act violations.  Somehow, despite their own investigators saying there was nothing derogatory, the group was determined to eliminate Flynn.

The crew was leaking to the media for support; but even with the severe echo chamber Bill Priestap had reservations writing in his notes during their meeting “I believe we should rethink this.”

The FBI team led mostly by Comey, McCabe, Page and Strzok never even told the main justice crew about the decision to interview Flynn until after it was over, according to Deputy AG Sally Yates.

The FBI wasn’t tasked by anyone else to interview Flynn four days after the inauguration.  The content of the Flynn-Kislyak call was fine according to the DC FBI investigators; and the controversy was generated by their own ‘small group’ media leaks and narrative engineering.   So ultimately what was the authority to interview Flynn?

According to the outside review by Missouri U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen there wasn’t any legal reason or justified authority to conduct the interview.  Hence, Jensen recommended to AG Bill Barr that the DOJ just drop the case; and they did.

The only FBI “pre-authorized” evidence was the gathering of the tech summary or “cuts” from the intercept.  There was no task or authorization to generate a transcript or do anything further.  James Comey would know that, and he would definitely know from the earlier conversation with President Obama that he was all alone.

With that in mind, do you think Comey would assemble an actual transcript for use in the Flynn interview that Main Justice was never informed was going to happen?  Or, would it be safer to stick with the “CR Cuts” and summaries that FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Agent Pientka saw, reviewed and knew about?

In the aftermath of the interview; and amid six months where nothing was done as a result of the interview; and amid all of the subsequent congressional requests for the transcript with no results; and amid all of the special counsel indictment filings against Flynn; and amid all of the legal proceedings against Flynn where the transcripts were requested (defense) and later ordered (judge) over two years; and not produced by prosecutor (Van Grack et al) there is zero evidence the Flynn-Kislyak transcript(s) even exist.

The reality is: there is 100 percent evidence the Flynn transcripts were never used in any proceedings, including legal proceedings; and zero percent evidence they even exist.

When we consider there is nothing derogatory within the Flynn-Kislyak conversation; and the only Flynn issue is how the FBI framed the content of answers to questions about a transcript the FBI has never admitted to exist, or presented to prove their case…Well, is it possible all of the efforts against Flynn were constructed from the use of “tech cuts” or “CR cuts” or summaries of the intercept?

That possibility is only real because the transcripts have never been identified.

The FBI, the DOJ, the special counsel, and the specific prosecutors have never stated they ever held an official transcript beyond the evidence of the call summaries identified above.

Could it be the DOJ bluffed Flynn into a guilty plea with: (1) threats against Mike Flynn Jr, (2) a fabricated 302 written/edited/shaped AFTER the interview, and (3) a non-existent transcript?  

We know 1 and 2 did happen… should we prepare for 3?

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… A few more days:

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715 Responses to Should We Prepare to Discover The FBI Never Officially Used The Kislyak-Flynn Transcript?…

  1. If there is no transcript, hey no problem. Adam Schiff can provide an improvisation to entertain us.
    Is everybody ready to be entertained ? Send for THE ENTERTAINER, and pass the popcorn.

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  2. zimbalistjunior says:

    with respect SD, I read the memo a bit differently. I think Obama was differentiating for Comey the 2 paths he should take to destroy Flynn and ultimately, soon to be President Trump:
    1) the legal path–Comey should proceed ‘by the book’–meaning use the standard FBI and DOJ procedures to screw Flynn over—ie through entrapment, threats, coercion etc. All the standard scumbag law enforcement methods to use. Violate the law but do so in the standard way of seemingly running to the edge of illicit activity without falling over.
    2) the intelligence path- ie the ‘national security’ path. Comey should proceed on that path to screw over Flynn and the Trump admin with the understanding that there is no ‘by the book’ for national security activities. Just an endless array of exemptions for what should be illicit conduct, but which isnt according to the extremely broad interpretation of national security that Obama and the IC use.

    meaning 1) Comey should coerce Flynn to resign or be fired, or to plead guilty to a bs charge—do that ‘by the book’.
    and 2) Comey should continue surveillance of Flynn, should withhold info from him that he is entitled to, should scheme to ruin him and the admin through various intel methods–all in the name of national security–where everything is allowed…ie who needs to formally unmask an american citizen by filing paperwork etc when it is a matter of national security.
    or worse. if need be..

    Obama is a former prof with decades of experience in the shadows. more than any president, he knew how to scam his way within the legal lines. thats what he was conveying to that dolt, comey in the jan 5 meeting. and thats what he had rice memorialize jan 20th. he was covering his ass by laying out his legal defense on paper.

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    • Rhoda R says:

      That his MO is to set others up to take a fall for his actions lends credence to your speculation Zimbalist.

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    • gnadfly says:

      Gen Flynn should just produce a memo around Early January 2017 saying “that any FBI agents come to interview me I may not remember details as well as I should,” After all, it worked for their 302s.

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    • Sharpshorts says:

      Obama was Instructing his team to go “by the book”
      THIS TIME
      which infers that “NOT going by the book” was the Obama team’s modus operand

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      • richard verney says:

        It is extremely unlikely that Obama, on 5th January, said do things “by the book,” and repeatedly streesed the need to do things “by the book.”

        If Comey had been instructed to do things by the book, why did he, on 24th Janaury, not do things “by the book” and deliberately parted with accepted protocol, by not first liasing with WH Counsel before sending in the FBI agens to interview Flynn, as would have been required, if Comey was doing things “by the book”?

        And this also begs the question, if Comey was aware that the WH was distancing itself from the investigation, and was setting up Comey as the fall guy, why did Comey go along with this? Comey had done his job, by allowing HRC to walk, and to compete in the 2016 election, so why would Comey be so invested in removing Flynn from office? There was no need to expose himself, in this manner, by going rogue. Why did he not place a memo on file that he was instructed by the WH to further investigate Flynn? After all, he too, could have written a CYA memo to file, just like Rice.

        None of this makes a lot of sense.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          why would Comey be so invested in removing Flynn from office?

          We’re in the process of uncovering all that now.

          Grassley/Johnson want all unmaskings from Jan 16 thru Jan 17
          They already know what they are going to show.
          The FBI was “spying” on the Trump campaign long before the C-H investigations official start date
          And this wasn’t all they did.

          Comey HAD to destroy TWO PEOPLE
          1) Flynn (NSA)
          2) Sessions (his NEW BOSS)

          Those are the two people who would have access to all DOJ/FBI intelligence material and would have uncovered and exposed what they were up to.

          Comey KNEW he would be able to easily pull this off because
          #1: He’s AMAZING (/sarc)
          #2 He DID pull it off EASILY
          Flynn lasted 4 days and Sessions never actually became Attorney General at all

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        • Sharpshorts says:

          If it made sense there would be no need for nonsense. The hardest thing to understand (for me, anyway) is how can people be so blind in this world of wonder.

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          • TheLastDemocrat says:

            tangential:

            “If it made sense there would be no need for nonsense.”

            Is this like a quote or principal from some wise man or management book somewhere?

            I want to start using this.

            [I was browsing the AM dial, and came across a local “homeowners talk show.” It was all about the “reverse mortgage.”

            If it is so simple and obvious, then why can’t you tell how it works, and/or distinguish it from a regular loan?

            Having pondered what the infomercial said, I reasoned that the mortgage holder gives you an equity loan, and gets the house upon your death; you get to enjoy the equity in your home, and use it up before you die, leaving your estate with little or no home/home equity. -Not a bad deal in some cases, but the radio guy never says this. He just kept speaking optimistic nonsense about your dreams, etc. – well, if it made sense there would be no need for nonsense.]

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        • Linda K. says:

          Why would Comey exonerate Hillary? That also made no sense. These guys were just drunk with power and Obama had no morality about what they did to reach their political end. They wanted to get Flynn. Obama is a mean little man.

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          • TarsTarkas says:

            Moolah. That is the answer. Comey was paid very handsomely during his hiatus from public ‘service’ and was interested in more remuneration.

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          • Tl Howard says:

            I suspect because he already had tons of crap on her.

            He probably feared Trump because as everyone in DC thought, “He soooooooo damned unpredictable and in many ways, an unknown.

            IT seems all FBI directors wish to keep their jobs and that’s how they do it. We’ve come to know Comey pretty well: it’s his nature to take glee in having power over everyone while at the same time trying to come off as a really nice guy.

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            • Tl Howard says:

              Look at the way Comey responded to his firing. He thought he had Trump by the shorthairs, that no way would Trump fire HIM, that Trump would either be gone (resigned or be impeached) shortly because of all the Deep STate was firing at him that first year OR, if he survived at all that he would reach some kind of *wink, wink* “arrangement with Trump to keep his job and that would have been a tough one because Comey would have had to play both sides against each other while somehow he gained the trust of both.

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        • Amy2 says:

          Perhaps he was listening to his “higher calling”?

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    • guybee55 says:

      Rice’s call for the transcript is a strategic move to put the oneous on Comey and company to produce the proof. Without it, the Obama mtg with Comey becomes irrelevant because they were talking about something that did not exist – hence – Comey – whatever you do, do it by the book. If Comey can’t produce the transcript, then Rice/Obama/Biden have cover and can throw Comey under the proverbial bus. Wonder if Comey can sing????

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    • Robert Smith says:

      A former professor who did what work?

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    • Mncpo(ret) says:

      I don’t think Obama is that smart. The gang around him were though. Jarrett has been a political animal for decades and probably scripted him.

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  3. gnadfly says:

    Given they had to get the Steele Dossier paid and published in order to reference it means they had no real justification within the CIA/FBI/NSI apparatus.

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  4. Perot Conservative says:

    My take is we’re getting lost in the weeds, interesting minutia This is like the OJ trial x 100. If there are lots of indictments, great.

    I believe the Treasury Department spying on Flynn and Trump … is both substantially bigger, and far, far easier to ‘sell’.

    1. Three Whistleblower complaints were buried.
    2. Political appointees were unmasking Trump officials.
    3. They spied on the Trump FAMILY.
    4. They spied on CONGRESS.
    5. Jack Lew and a female appointee, a former personal aide to Obama, were intimates of President Obama.
    6. Further proof of a WIDE-RANGING Conspiracy?

    Only Howie Carr has noted this takes it up a level.

    Am I wrong? Am I missing something?

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    • sundance says:

      “We” are not lost in the weeds. Perhaps you have a mouse in your pocket.

      1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 have no bearing on the Flynn-Kislyak transcript issue.

      Be Best.

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      • Roger Thornhill says:

        Where do “the cuts” come from if there is no transcript?

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        • MaineCoon says:

          I’m no expert on this aspect, but my first thought is the co-conspirtors would have no qualms to make-up their own false “cuts” to suit their false investigation.

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        • PS says:

          My interpretation is that it is all a matter of legal terminology:

          You make a phone call, and it gets bounced through some digital multiplexers on the way to the destination. In the process it is not “wiretapped” (implies legal targeting) but it is recorded.

          Information *about* the call, such as numbers dialed, physical location of call, date & time, persons dialing and receiving, are all “metadata” that is queryable in the NSA databases. Hence About Query abuse in another topic.

          An FBI worker retrieved the call from the database, listens, makes notes and writes a summary of the call. The recording is a “technical” and the the intercepted call content is a “technical cut”. Think of this as a “rough draft”. We believe a summary was passed to the White House.

          This is different from a legal transcript, in which a conversation is reviewed and transcribed word-for-word. Courts use transcripts generated from legal stenographers, which are reviewed, notarized, and have the “whole story” in place of the audio itself.

          The final allegation is that a word-for-word legal document was never produced (at the time 2017) from the call content, therefore there *is* no transcript to request, therefore all the delay we see is hiding this fact. The FBI predicated Flynn’s interview on what was essentially someone’s “crib sheet” notes of a call. How can someone legally purger themselves when you can’t compare against what they actually said?

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          • Paprika says:

            Perzactly!

            And we sure don’t have a “word-for-word” legal document from his “interview” except for “what was essentially someone’s “crib sheet” notes” that was edited weeks after the interview itself!

            And this is the best that our “best of the best” law enforcement could present and then proceed to prosecute? My high school debate team would have obliterated this nonsense in an open and fair debate. But therein lies the rub, ‘in an open and fair playing field or court’!

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          • Robert Smith says:

            It’s like a 302 version of intelligence surveillance. I’ll tell you what I remember. 😉

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        • KMD says:

          The ‘CR cuts’ used by the crooks were likely courtesy of ‘5Eyes’ intel gathering, our own (recently exposed) HAMR surveillance system, or a combination
          /corroboration of the two…

          If you’ve been following closely, you’ll recall little crumbs from dummies like Farkas & Waters, who spilled beans on public tv about So-tero’s surveillance power, not to mention intel from true ‘whistleblower’ Dennis Montgomery. This surveillance power was being used and abused for YEARS. No FISA, to warrants, no paper trail of any sort…

          Therefore, by Rice ASKING for a ‘transcript” she KNOWS doesn’t exist, the logical narrative is to then deduce that Jimmy Corney destroyed evidence of it. Whammo, instant fall guy generated & So-Tero insulated…

          And it almost worked, too…’cept for one thing. The ‘good guys’ (like Gen. Flynn) KNEW all along. And now, the ‘good guys’ have have the same surveillance power and are using it to expose these treasonous SOBs…

          Godspeed, Patriots!

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          • tav144 says:

            I agree, however Comey is a political animal. He’s not too smart, but I think he is smart enough to see through this and yet document “something” that he can pull out if absolutely necessary. If he is implicated as a fall guy, I would not doubt that he has something up his sleeve that he can offer to prove he was acting on Obama’s orders. He rolls like that.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      P.S. The FBI destroying or hiding TWO Flynn 302s is a huge issue in the SpyGate Soft Coup – the biggest political crime in our nation’s history.

      Why isn’t AG (Bondo) Barr firing Brandon Van Grack & Chris Wray for withholding exculpatory Brady material for 3 years?

      For hiding or destroying 2 Flynn 302s?

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      • trnathens says:

        For reasons THEY know, and WE don’t. Remember, we hired PDJT, he hired his staff. They report to him. HE reports to us. AG Barr doesn’t have to explain right now why.

        What if, and I’m just spitballing here, but what if by declaring himself a Wartime President on March 18, and knowing the NSA database is now securely under the control of the military, maybe just perhaps it’s better to keep people in position, but monitor, legally, as part of a treason RICO investigation, EVERYTHING. Phone calls, emails, texts, websites, everything. Legally. And put together the bigger picture.

        Same with Wray.
        Same with, well anyone YOU think should be gone.

        We ALL need to admit we don’t know what we don’t know. Speculate, guess based on other information. But the fog of war can be confusing, and make us think we’re seeing something we’re not.

        I trust PDJT.
        He appears to trust Barr.
        Hence, I trust Barr.

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        • MightyConservative says:

          “I trust PDJT.
          He appears to trust Barr.
          Hence, I trust Barr.”

          The middle sentence says it all. “Appears”. He also “appeared” to trust Fauci. I trust POTUS’ instincts, but who says he trusts Barr? He may be waiting until after the election to be rid of him.nhe May be waiting to see how this plays out. He has made a few digs at Barr.

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          • madeline says:

            I recall reading that you cannot charge treason on a court it must be a military tribunal. I am not a lawyer but thought I read that…

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            • “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
              ― Sun tzu, The Art of War

              There are other forms of deception. Like “keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.”

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          • TradeBait says:

            I see both of your viewpoints as valid. PDT says he works for us. Is that true? Or is that true only when he says it is the right time to be true? The spygate resolution seems to have a planned outcome regardless of my opinions on how it is handled. I smell a big time cover-up and fix by people who are experts at it under the guise of not upsetting the American people too much so as to cause civil strife. I think it has been that way since soon after the election. Without equal justice applied under the law there can be no America as drawn up in the Constitution. It makes the document meaningless as just “guidelines” that cannot be enforced. What screams “justice” is being applied uniformly in this country? Nothing. Announcements in advance by Uni-partists such a Rooster and B2 that not everything should be indictable offenses. Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Holder, McCabe, Comey, Stroyk, Page and so on have all have been proven and documented to have committed perjury. The response from the Department of Injustice – no – we will not pursue charges. If you or I did it, we would now be serving our sentence.

            PDT is not infallible and the closing of the entire economy based on Fauxi, Birx, and the use of bad modeling was a mistake. He’s now selling that loss of life would have been in the millions and that is not true at all once he shut the doors to the rest of the world coming in. So credit for shutting the doors early, which is then cancelled by idling the entire economy. Closing the economy down completely after shutting the doors was the mistake and we all know it whether we acknowledge it or not. He went with the federalism sales pitch instead of just directing the targeting the most affected areas. Close off NY and NJ immediately. His NY history and personal germaphobia got in the way of a sound decision in my opinion. Stop the hot spots from infecting the rest of the country. Target them and leave the rest of us alone. We can handle our affairs with a bit of reasoned leadership. Apparently blue states do not have the capacity.

            If they do not take advantage of clearing the decks of national debt by abolishing the Fed in the next term – they have set up our children and grandchildren for untold misery for decades.

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            • trnathens says:

              Governors shut down economies. PDJT didn’t shut down anything. He ordered businesses to open and retool. Repurpose. Don’t so quickly rewrite history.

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          • “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
            ― Sun tzu, The Art of War

            There are other forms of deception. Like “keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.”

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          • Robert Smith says:

            I’m not sure anyone in DC really trusts the other people. Not that they don’t have ‘trusted” compatriots but they are always on the lookout for getting screwed. It’s just the DC way. They always have their antennas up.

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        • mayflowerchild says:

          How soon we forget Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson, et al.

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        • MelH says:

          PDJT trusted Sessions, too. And Steve Bannon and the guy who preceeded Pompeo, and /Scaramucci, for a few hours. There’s a long list I’ve forgotten.

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    • LOL says:

      Exactly. Searching in the weeds is excessive detail that is hard to follow for the average person and not especially germane to the point. In addition to being speculative.

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      • …especially when these weeds are full of CIA and Obama complex lies, designed only to misdirect. There is no way Obama was not shown the actual transcript (or verbally fully informed, by Jarrett or other close assistant, of its exact contents). As President, Obama has the full responsibility to know exactly what the actions of those in his administration are based upon. Tall tales about him not being informed are just that, tall tales — key word: unbelievable. Obama as Patsy is just an Obama-sized lie; the Buck (capitalized, that means Big Buck) stops there.

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    • Amy2 says:

      Interesting points Perot. ‘perhaps the Presidential Thread will get you some input?

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Is Treasury Dept spying a bigger, easier target to understand and go after?

      They already did. That bird may have flown. Treasury Dept already got in trouble – for partisan hassling of Tea Parties. They apologized, and probably instituted some new trainings. –IOW: this IRS angle may already be considered to have been adjudicated.

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  5. Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

    I believe you’re giving Slim Jim too much credit SD.
    Comey doesn’t impress me as the deep thinker he’d have us believe….and no amount of “Repose in Woods” twitter pics will convince me otherwise.

    But I DO believe Comey is a CYA conman who trips over his megalomaniacal ego from time to time.

    Although he’s let it be known “he never memorialized his convo’s with any other president”….only Trump, that can change with a few strokes of the pen.

    obama & Co. better hope Dear Diary doesn’t resurface in the NYT of his “memorialized recollections” as pertains to the “by the book” instructions.

    Comey’s stupid, but he ain’t dumb.

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  6. sundance says:

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    • Me says:

      Seems to Me that Sundance for a while was trying to take me to a point that no recording of Flynn and Russian ambassador Conversation was ever intercepted, instead he was hinting the ambassador was a secret US spy who simply told CIA what Flynn said to him. But theloop on this vector did not get closed so I now doubt that was where Sundance was heading.

      So after relooking at this justice complaint against Flynn and remembering two things, one was a Sundance suggestion (I think) some time ago, plus the tone of political atmosphere in Jan 2017 (Where press was strongly suggesting Trump was a Russian asset); at that time Sundance suggested Flynn had to lie to US public that he was not talking to Ambassador (or if he had, that he was certainly not coordinating how to minimize impact of Russians being kicked out of US in Dec 2016) to deflect the pressure on Trump from our press and to support the Vice President who said Trump was not doing this, even though Trump and Flynn quite appropriately had done so.

      It seems to me the special counsel quite inappropriately took political advantage of this by creating a story of possible collusion and a lie had to be made by Flynn to cover it up; suggesting Trump indeed was in bed with Russia, when Trump was instead doing good. The special counsel knew Trump politically did not want to admit to this because the press had gained the upper had and momentum at that time that Trump was evil and in league with Russia.

      Thus is so disgusting – what the press and special counsel did.

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    • Bubby says:

      Sundance is saying that the FBI never had a transcript of the call that was used in their framing of Flynn but this Lewis Jackson is pointing out there is a recorded copy of the call that could be heard or a transcript could be made from? If Comey/obama are trying to setup Flynn no need for a transcript of an innocuous call that vindicates Flynn. So Grenell could in his last days as DNI get that recorded call and release the call or prepare a transcript showing Flynn never committed any act against the country. It would be fortuitous for Flynn if that happened and especially before Judge Jackson responds to the DC Court of Appeals! I have got this right? TIA.

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      • Amy2 says:

        The down side is Rice gets what she wants out of it?

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      • trnathens says:

        Yep, nailed it.

        And for future reference, understand THIS (it makes things SO much easier):

        EVERYTHING that creates or leaves a digital footprint is logged, catalogued, assigned, tracked, and stored. Me, what I’m typing here, will leave a digital footprint. YOU don’t know who TRNATHENS is, but the second I hit POST the ones and zeros that actually comprise this post will be kept in some NSA digital warehouse. Because THEY know the type of phone I have, my carrier, my plan, everything about my cell phone, every picture I’ve ever looked at, every text, ALL my contacts, and THEIR CONTACTS, and phones, and pictures, and websites. They know my internet service provider. The assigned IP address. The masked address of my Wi-Fi server. They know the websites I visit. They remember better than I all the posts I’ve ever made. So within what, seconds of me hitting POST, this will be one more nugget in my NSA folder.

        You have one too.

        We all do.

        What were they afraid of Flynn disclosing?

        That.

        Guys. All of it.

        All of it.

        Tracked, stored. Ready and able to be mined. What do you think 702 searches ARE?

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    • samwise163 says:

      It was a “mosaic” of calls and comms/s.

      So is Sundance saying they were going off of comms b/w the PTT members (text/emails) and not the call itself. Would make sense since it is plural.

      It was all 2nd hand (News) – when times go bad, when times go rough just lay me down in tall grass and let me do my stuff….speaking of weeds

      Too much coffee this AM.

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    • So if the Flynn-Kislyak call transcripts do not even exist, why is Susan Rice calling for their release? Is she finally unleashing the trap set against the FBI and former Director Comey? Or is she protecting herself and former President Obama? Surely she knows there are no transcripts, or does she?

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  7. Pale rider says:

    Who is weak and who is strong? Who will start crying first?
    The part that I do not understand is this, Manafort, Flynn, Stone all got seriously harassed and lost mountains of money, they were all clean. Why not do the same thing to these criminals? Comey going to jail? I’m betting that book money was ‘just in case’ he did take a legal hit. Rice? Andrew McCabe, Strok, Page? Or could it be…….. they know the truth and don’t want it out?
    And why in the world did Barr say on national television he didn’t see Obama being prosecuted or whatever? How would he know that while an investigation was still underway??? Any answer is disturbing.

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    • Pale rider says:

      By the way, that statement alone should get Barr removed from his position.

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      • trnathens says:

        Pale,

        Barr said it to put pressure on everyone else to POINT to Obama/Biden.

        IF he was involved, Obama, what looks better, and MORE CONVINCING, Barr blaming Obama, OR Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Page, Strokz, and any of the others left holding the bag BY Barr’s statement.

        You think ANY of the underlings have the shoulders to handle all of this? Nope.

        THIS way, the revelation of Obama’s involvement is not political, and therefore irrefutable.

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        • T2020 says:

          Like eating their own? Are they capable of doing that if possibly “O” puts a hit out on them? Just sayin…

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        • Davenh says:

          I believe that the possibility exists that Barr is utilizing the media much the same way the democrats do. Lull your targets into a false sense of security then hopefully they fall into a trap? I don’t know. It’s convoluted as hell, we are likely seeing only the tip of the iceberg and the other 90% is obscured. If there is to be no real accountability for the main players, then by all means get the story out there so there can be no doubt as to what actually happened. Time grows short

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          • trnathens says:

            All we can do is try to divine the best we can. We are talking about spys and spy-hunters going at it in broad daylight, hidden by their use of intermediaries, calm demeanor, and polite affect. But this is blood-sport. Daily. And we are front-row witness to it!

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    • sDee says:

      What Barr said:
      “As for President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement based on what I know, I don’t expect Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man,”

      If one read only this post from Sundance today, one might conclude Obama and Rice were squeaky clean. But there is far more to this archaeological dig.

      Our entire governmental/political party systems from city councils to all branches of the federal behemoth are irredeemably corrupt tools of globalism. Arresting or disgracing another President in the long line of globalist sellouts will not put so much as a dent in America’s death march to globalism.

      Barr cannot save us. No one is coming to save us. It is our job to face that ugly reality and do something about it. President Donald Trump is an existential threat to globalism. We have seen nothing like him. He gives us our last chance to save ourselves. Make America Great.

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      • mayflowerchild says:

        I don’t have any faith in Barr or Durham however, in Barr’s statement he leaves open the possibility that evidence could still be produced to convince him that Obama could face consequences. He also says nothing about Jensen’s investigation.

        But, I’m not holding my breath. Just thought I’d throw a little Hopium out there for those who need their fix.

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        • Mark says:

          You really think at this point…that Barr, being in daily contact with Durham doesn’t know this? He knows exactly what role Obama and Biden have played in this. Why is he making a public comment on Obama & Biden prior to Durham being finished? I think its outrageous. It certainly sends a signal to Durham to leave both of them alone doesn’t it? Has anyone noticed we are almost into June and there is no indication that Durham is done with whatever he is doing? What is he doing anyway? Brennan says, as of last week or so that Durham has not interviewed him.

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    • phillip jeffreys says:

      If I understand SD correctly, the very point he is makling is that the Rice e-mail (at counsel prodding, hmmm, that thread needs to be pushed) falls in line with Obama’s MO for his 8 years – communicating his will through vague messaging (never overtly) and always establishing deniability (the constant “I just learned about this myself this morning in the papers”). This also rationalizes Barr’s recent statement. What is unknown is whether Barr’s statement is limited to the Flynn actions or the much broader set of actions taken from 2015 onward while he was accountable.

      Interesting sidebar: the former Commander-in-Chief’s first priority was always protecing his own arse first. Get that warfighters?

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      • crasey says:

        The Rice e-mail “sets the narrative.” It was likely placed in the record 15 min after the official end of the Obama administration so it would be found and shared rather than moved with the other Obama records that were transferred to the custody of the National Archives. It was a clever way to give the Resistance the official narrative.

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      • Mary says:

        I get it completely. The one thing I would give Obama credit for is being a master politician. I mean, why would legal tell Rice to write that memo?

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    • pale rider…see trnathens comment to your questions…

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    • Mary says:

      I interpreted Barr’s statement about Obama meaning they had no case they could bring at this point against Obama. Just as Rice wrote that memo to cover Obama’s ass, everything else was done covering him. Is he the first mob boss whose people fall on the sword for him for doing what he wanted? Hardly. Obama wanted to know why the Russians were not retaliating against his sanctions, When he found out Flynn was neutralizing him, Obama called that meeting between himself, Comey, and Yates. (See Yates notes on the meeting I will post after this.) I lay my money Obama was pissed and ordered them to get Flynn.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        I was under the impression that Obama was stunned that Russia was not retaliating regarding the expulsions of the Russians in the USA? WTH did O want WW3? Putin is too smart for you, you traitor to your own country. Shame on O and his ilk.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      He said something like “right now” he wasn’t aware of anything that made him think Obama and Biden committed acts that were criminal. There is a lot of leeway in what he said. He might not “be aware” yet of any number of things.

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  8. Conservative_302 says:

    I find none of this entertaining. My Lord! If frightens me to think about the evil Flynn has been and still is up against. I am starting to think this whole Obamagate was about Obama’s pettiness and hatred for Flynn. Destroying Trumps presidency was icing on the cake. This passage sums it up perfectly. The evil Obamagate cabal will get their due one way or another. Obama’s legacy is deservedly Obamagate.
    Galatians 61:7. Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

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    • Lee Moore says:

      While we’re on “the evil Flynn has been and still is up against” we should be cautious about running victory laps, just because Flynn has drawn a non insane DC Appeals Court panel. Even if they grant mandamus, that only makes the original charges disappear.

      It does nothing about the perjury business. The amicus will still be briefing Sullivan on that, and may still be wanting to get into fact finding and witnesses. The fact that there is SCOTUS precedent that perjury on its own is not contempt of court is of little help. Sullivan can claim more fact finding is required. And in a contempt proceeding Sullivan is in control – if the DoJ doesn’t want to play ball, which it won’t, Sullivan can appoint his own prosecutor.

      Sullivan can keep the pain going for another year or two just on a bum perjury rap.

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      • trnathens says:

        No he can’t.

        Sullivan CANNOT prosecute Flynn for perjury.

        SULLIVAN cannot prosecute Flynn for ANYTHING.

        THAT’S the point of this insanity right now.

        He CAN hold Flynn in either criminal or civil contempt, and impose a fine or threaten jail time, but Appellate Court would slap both of those options down before he was done dictating the order.

        No, like Sydney said, he is way out in left field here.

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        • Lee Moore says:

          SULLIVAN cannot prosecute Flynn for ANYTHING

          You are, unfortunately, mistaken :

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_42

          “The court must request that the contempt be prosecuted by an attorney for the government, unless the interest of justice requires the appointment of another attorney. If the government declines the request, the court must appoint another attorney to prosecute the contempt.”

          It would take Sullivan precisely 4.5 nanoseconds to decide that a government attorney won’t do and “the interest of justice requires the appointment of another attorney.”

          Another attorney selected by Sullivan, not the DoJ. Perhaps Andrew Weissman is available ?

          Flynn’s ultimate protection is that there is clear SCOTUS precedent that perjury is not, of itself, contempt of court. However it would take Sullivan only another 4.5 nanoseconds to conclude that it is entirely justified to investigate whether Flynn’s alleged perjury went beyond mere perjury and had the effect of disrupting court proceedings. It is much less likely that Powell would be able to get mandamus to stop this sort of extra torture. So although Flynn would win in the end, a lot of process punishment could be added.

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          • trnathens says:

            That’s exactly what I said. Sullivan can’t prosecute ANYONE for ANYTHING.

            If he feels that a defendant is in criminal contempt of court, and there is a conflict with the government doing so, THEN he must appoint an attorney to prosecute the charge of CRIMINAL CONTEMPT OF COURT. Not perjury.

            A judge CANNOT criminally prosecute, nor assign another attorney to criminally prosecute ANYONE for the criminal charge of Perjury, or any other violation of the criminal code.

            Separation of Powers, don’t ya know!

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            • trnathens says:

              Did you go to Cornell Law, or was that a Google search return?

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              • Lee Moore says:

                Google.

                We seem to be mostly in agreement, though I’m not quite sure.

                1. I agree that Sullivan cannot prosecute anyone for perjury, simpliciter but he can arrange for the prosecution of Flynn for contempt of court….
                2. and he can do so without the DoJ’s acquiescence. So he can inflict lots suffering on Flynn, without help from the DoJ….
                3. if he can frame Flynn’s conduct as contempt of court. Perjury, as you say, is insufficient on its own to constitute contempt of court, following Ex parte Hudgings. But per Hudgings “there must be added to the essential elements of perjury … the further element of obstruction to the court in the performance of its duty.” So all Sullivan needs to do is to assert, no doubt with Lawfare assistance, some imagined obstructive element to add on to the alleged perjury to make it qualify as contempt
                4. it doesn’t really matter how feeble that alleged obstructive element is – it’s going to be hard to mandamus it away before it’s run its course

                So I conclude that Sullivan can inflict lots of pain on Flynn, even if the original charge is dropped and even if he can’t actually make a contempt charge stick

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                • trnathens says:

                  I believe Flynn is on a literal military mission. IF Sullivan continues down this path, then it further illustrates the depravity, the corruption, and will be further confirmation and testament to the success of Flynn’s mission. He may even get another star. Wouldn’t THAT be a kick in the head!?

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      • MightyConservative says:

        He wasn’t under oath, and he had no lawyer present.

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      • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

        Always expect the unexpected….

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    • donna kovacevic says:

      Amen.

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  9. Joseph Olson says:

    Fox News reports (5/21/20) that Flynn called Dec 22, 2016 and again on Dec 29. Given that Obombie placed “meddling” sanctions on Russia on Dec 29, the first call may have been fake treason trigger.

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  10. f.fernandez says:

    Great point sundance.

    Queen (Rice) protects the King (Obama). Rice floating herself as Biden VP candidate to stave off punishment?

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  11. TwoLaine says:

    From the Fake News NYT tweeted link…

    “Lawmakers’ unease with Mr. Grenell in large measure drove momentum for confirming Mr. Ratcliffe.”

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  12. Publius2016 says:

    the false narrative is really about timing and scope…44 identified 45 as an “Enemy of the State” in 2011 or 2015 at the latest. FISA allows Presidents to do this.

    The crime is political as Americans HATE CHEATING!

    Creating the false narrative around “Russian Policy” gives this SICK SAD DESTRUCTIVE action a small semblance of respectability; which of course, it was DEPRAVITY.

    Using 21st Century Surveillance tools like infrared digital 360 etc on 45 wife family friends shows how these True Believers want to fundamentally transform our country!

    Exposure is key to the Election…2020 is EVERYTHING!

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    • trnathens says:

      Kind of makes you wonder…

      How did he win election?
      How did he survive this hoax?
      How did he survive Mueller?
      How did he survive Ukraine?
      How did he survive Vindman?
      How did he survive Weissman?
      How did he survive Comey?
      How is he even STILL ALIVE, let alone STILL IN OFFICE?

      Kind of makes one wonder… Could there BE divine intervention? What would a Christ figure look like today? Would we relate to or follow someone so pious as to judge, or someone like us, who talks like us, he feels like us, who wants freedom, who wants security, who talks about sanctity of life, who talks about God. Who isn’t perfect, but is “taking slings and arrows for us”?

      What IS a Christ figure?

      The characteristics of a Christ Figure may include but are not limited to the following:
      Special birth story.
      Performance of miracles.
      Healing others.
      Displaying loving kindness and forgiveness.
      Guided by the spirit of a father.
      Sacrificial love.
      Connection to Heaven or the afterlife.
      Death and resurrection.

      ALL of those can be checked off (metaphorically, if not literally).

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      • Dekester says:

        trnathens,

        Thank you for your posts.

        This one is terrific, my attitude towards many things has changed for the better since the emergence of PDJT as a political figure.

        I only went to church for the odd funeral or such, and had no religion in my childhood.

        My career took me to places that seriously impaired any belief in Christianity.

        That said, the presence of PDJT has changed much of that.

        One thing I would add to your insightful post, is that PDJT is mocked, ridiculed, and loathed by many. Those same folks though maybe not literally, would love to see him publicly crucified.

        PDJT sure gets me thinking..

        God bless PDJT

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      • T2020 says:

        Well, President Trump is not Jesus the Messiah, but he is a reprieve to wake up the nation to turn back to the Lord. Our prayers and God’s mercy gave us a courageous man to take on the DC corruption. Like holding Moses’s hands/arms up, if we keep holding POTUS up in prayer, we will win. The moment we turn away from the Lord, well, 8 yrs of Obama will be candy compared to what’s coming.

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        • trnathens says:

          T2020, don’t focus on the physical man, but on the spiritual message. In HIS time, too was Jesus, the man tested daily. The same tests then as now. The same group of traditional “leaders” whose positions of import and influence were threatened by this young upstart who wanted people to actually…love God?

          The message was the same: you don’t have to bow down to the onerous man-made rules, whether they be of “religion” or “political correctness”, regardless their purpose is the same: small group completely controls big group.

          Same power structure. Same threat. Same message of freedom and God’s love. Same disruptions.

          Don’t focus on whether he’s the same “man”. A Christ figure can be anyone. Jesus happens to be the best representation on Earth so far.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        If I may ask, what is the “special birth story” regarding our mortal in the Oval?

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        • trnathens says:

          The Bible uses metaphor and parable as teaching tools, so that people don’t get caught up on the literal, but instead understand meaning.

          A special birth story could be his “birth” when he finally attained the spiritual understanding necessary such that he was ready to take on this task. I don’t know.

          I’m not focusing on a literal list of: must be this can’t be that.

          I’m focusing on the message.

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  13. Puzzled says:

    It is extremely important to unearth the fraud and punish the perpetrators. Unfortunately, my perception is that the vast majority of people are influenced at a very superficial level by the main street media and Hollywood (TV, music, FB, GOOG, TWTR etal) voices that are heard most frequently. These leftist voices are controlling, winning and spinning the phony narratives. The criminals or deep state control the media as well as law enforcement, intelligence, courts, in general the entire government bureaucracy. Many people accept that everything is politics and view what has been done, coerced guilty pleas, investigations and impeachments as simply winning. Tomorrow is a new day, and hope I will be more optimistic about the state of the American people.

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  14. In the Land of Poz says:

    This would help explain the disconnect between Priestap, who somehow thought there might be a legitimate purpose or direction for the investigation to take that needed clarification, and the main plotters. He was sandwiched between the operatives (Strzok, Pientka, eventually Clinesmith and others) who did the dirty work knowing full well it was fraudulent, and the higher-ups — Comey who understood but did not explain the political landmine handed to him by Obama, Rosenstein aware and complicit but strategically silent, and McCabe the puppetmaster orchestrating the operatives through Lisa Page.

    Remember the Strzok-Page text message about Priestap listening in the hallway and that being a problem.

    In essence Priestap was some sort of dolt the others viewed as a risk to their plans, whether due to stupidity or honesty, and was invited to meetings ex officio to help provide window dressing of propriety.

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  15. sarasotosfan says:

    This cornering of Comey is going to lead us back to the MYE and the hand the White House played in the get out of jail free cards the DOJ handed out.

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  16. Scott B. says:

    A few more days?!

    Expect Mr. Grenell to carpet bomb DC with declassified documents, possibly today!

    Popcorn at the ready…

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  17. starfcker says:

    Disgusting how much leeway the FBI has to shape conversations and interviews. Particularly since we are in the digital age, and recording is free, and there is no issue on storage. Hopefully that’ll be one of the first things acting FBI director Grenell addresses.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      I cheered when Louie Gohmert brought that up at the recent TRUMP & House GOP round table meeting.

      The reason they don’t is self-serving, which is exactly why it MUST HAPPEN.

      The once premier law enforcement arm of the gubt who had no problems pushing and requiring digicams onto the local law enforcement officers, after Big Mike mauled a police officer and tried to kill him simply for asking he walk on the sidewalk.

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  18. saywhat64 says:

    Perhaps an actual transcript of the call does not exist precluding a production of the document. However an actual recording of the call does exist in those big shiny NSA buildings in Utah in which DNI director Grennel does have access with Radcliff soon to follow…

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  19. Clay More says:

    I find it strange that Valerie “Zara” Jarrett’s hands/paws are not wedged into this somehow. She, more than Rice, seems to be the one whispering in Obama’s ear at this time. “Ziira” was a shot caller in that Obama junta. She should not be escaping prosecution.

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  20. Big Al says:

    McCarthy said a woman at the DOJ had been informed but not Yates

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Mary McCord. Acting Assistant Attorney General of the NSD.. She was supposed to inform Yates. Had a meeting scheduled to do so later that day.

      As acting head of NSD she worked with the attorney that became the IC IG. The guy who changed the whistleblower evidence rules from eyewitness to hearsay. And who was rebuked by the DOJ but told Congress anyways.

      After leaving the DOJ McCord went to work for Schiff and helped ride herd on impeachment.

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  21. Could Susan Rice’s request for rhe actual transcript be a ploy to reveal NOT THECONTENT of the call, but to formally establish it’s WRITTEN chain of custody, and WHO ordered the intercepts in the first place?

    Of course, she KNOWS all of this BUT she would also know if suggestions from the Obama White House (to Comey) were verbal and not traceable, and if there will be a paper trail attached to the transcript that will lead to their intended “Fall Guy”

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    • convert says:

      Or could it be that Rice is calling for a release the transcript in order to frame the whole thing as “there’s no transcript because one was never prepared and dessiminated, it was only Comey and his rogue element passing around their “personal notes” about what was said on the call”? Isn’t the inability to produce the transcript a continuation of Rice’s strategy to put the blame on others? “See, there’s no transcript because this was NOT done by the book by Mr.Comeys crew.” It’s for damn sure anything Rice is promoting is going to be good for Obama, period, and her position would have absolutely nothing to do with getting the truth, helping Flynn, protecting the American people and our Constitution, etc. None of that is a priority, obviously.

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      • True. But, there ARE transcripts, as Trey Gowdy just confirmed having read them. Just not transcripts of EVERY call. So, was Flynn accused of lying about a call of which there IS a transcript? I bet he was. Hence my suggestion that Rice’s ploy is designed to cover Obama’s a$$, not to free or fry Flynn. There will be a paper trail ON the transcript that will point back to WHO ordered the surveillance, and WHEN.

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  22. Michael Hennessy says:

    Doesn’t this all come down to covering up the massive surveillance (spying) ongoing as possibly far back as 2012? Even if Obama can distance himself from and leave Comey twisting in the wind with the Flynn setup, and then all of the additional illegal spying is exposed by Radcliffe, Jensen, Durham, how does Obama then plead ignorance for Gestapo tactics by HIS intelligience and LE agencies on American citizens?

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  23. Derangement Syndrome says:

    Surprise, there’s no official transcript of the Flynn/Kislyak call!

    The FBI would love for you to take the word of fired liar Peter Strzok at face value.

    What a joke!

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    • Ootenvault says:

      Someone asked this before me and I didn’t see an answer. So if there is no transcript – how can there be cuts?

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  24. TwoLaine says:

    Well, it seems to me there should be at least about 53 copies floating around out there. Anyone care to leak…???

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  25. saywhat64 says:

    It is sure fun watching all the rats starting to turn against each other.

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  26. Asking them to not get into a “tit for tat” and asking to only respond in a reciprocal manner seems contradictory.

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    • everywhereguyy says:

      Yes, *if* “tit for tat” was the actual wording Flynn used, he was speaking sloppily. The distinction he must have been making is 1. “yes, you have to do something because we did something, just consider keeping it comparable to what we did” — whereas 2. “[don’t do] tit for tat” must have meant “try not to escalate by doing something really big in return, and therefore make things worse by requiring another escalation from our side.”

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  27. Mo says:

    How does an FBI pen register if that is still the theory work when Gen Flynn is calling/accepting Kislyak calls from the Dominican Republic. Why does Deputy FBI Director testify that the agency that had the pen requested action if FBI had the pen? What is Brennans CIA involvement? Can the NSA produce a transcript of the calls? Is it fact that NSA records everything?

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    • trnathens says:

      Mo,

      pen register is SO 1900s!

      They have the ability to digitally record ANY call they want. OR go back and data mine any call that has EVER been made, because they are ALL captured and stored for just this purpose.

      In Congressional hearings they talk about pen registers and meta data so that WE don’t get pissed about the extent of secret surveillance and their TRUE capabilities.

      Wikipedia: UTAH DATA CENTER

      Keep in mind, that is ONE of MANY, worldwide. They say that the electric bill alone, to keep all those computers cool, is $40 million per year. Just the electric bill. At ONE facility.

      There are many.

      Pen registers?

      Try your own personal digital file, with every single transaction in your whole life noted in your file, and your file being monitored by an AI algorithm to make note of any aberrations that could draw further scrutiny.

      Now, imagine that is the case for all persons in the US. Everyone. All of us. Everything is recorded, and they can mine it at will.

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  28. old sneakers says:

    In Trump’s second term the FBI and the DOJ have to be closed…forever

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  29. MVW says:

    I wish it was otherwise, but even if Barr had an ironclad case and could win in a court of law, the media would spin it as racist, as just another lynching. Politically it would never yield the result any here would want.

    Comey’s actions clearly warrant him being fired, but he did not doctor the 302. Strzok can claim that the doctored 302 was his best recollection and rewriting was just an attempt to make what was original more readable. Dindunuffin.

    It is such a dog’s dinner that there will be difficulty in getting any justice.

    Trump at this point is doing the best he can with a rat infestation, fire the corrupt, cleanup with Lysol while holding ones nose, survive the damage. Given we live in a country with Libtards that can’t see the sun at high noon, but vote, media owned by enemies of our country, tech firms that employ spoiled idiot savants with massive hubris that think censorship is their birth right, it is a miracle the country still runs.

    There is pure evil in this world with hurt and damage from that evil. Maybe God will save our country one more time come November 3. I have faith that God will. Then clean up and move on.

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    • oldfiredude says:

      I am also praying daily that the LORD will save us “one more time”. For the sake of my kids and grandkids. It worries me that as a society we have turned our backs on the LORD snd like Sodom and Gomorah, we probably deserve what’s coming. Evil prevails when good men do nothing. Political correctness has silenced the Church, and many of us have been conditioned to “accept” so we remain silent as well. PDJT may win once more GOD willing but nothing short of a 180 degree turn can save our once great nation.

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      • trnathens says:

        The Book of Nahum:

        1:3 The Lord is slow to anger and great in power,
        And the Lord will by no means leave the guilty unpunished.
        In whirlwind and storm is His way,
        And clouds are the dust beneath His feet.

        1:9 Whatever you devise against the Lord,
        He will make a complete end of it.
        Distress will not rise up twice.

        1:12 Thus says the Lord,
        “Though they are at full strength and likewise many,
        Even so, they will be cut off and pass away.
        Though I have afflicted you,
        I will afflict you no longer.

        1:15 Behold, on the mountains the feet of him who brings good news,
        Who announces peace!
        Celebrate your feasts, O Judah;
        Pay your vows.
        For never again will the wicked one pass through you;
        He is cut off completely.

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  30. stormy223 says:

    James Comey is equivalent to the clutch in a Top Fuel dragster. He performed well, but after one run he is discarded by the Obama Administration. The one critical paragraph in Susan Rice’s memo was kept secret so that Comey would later ( now ) be put in an untenable position. He can either fall on his sword to protect the people who sold him out, or he turns States’ Evidence and exposes his former comrades.
    Comey made bad choices in the past; let’s see how bad his next choice is going to be.

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    • railer says:

      Good post. Comey’s mouth has been flapping for the longest, which was always a tell of his awareness of his vulnerability here. The fact that Rice is openly bolstering the WH firewall against Muh Russia indicates that Comey is being left on his own.

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  31. railer says:

    I actually kinda hope Obama is firewalled from the lawbreaking. That means we can get Comey, Brennan et al into prison, without fear of prosecuting an ex-president, which we never do. Presidents always walk, but these corrupt bureaucrats need to be punished, to send the message to the rest.

    Prove to us you’re a patriot, Barr.

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    • mayflowerchild says:

      I have a feeling that if Comey & Brennan face any consequences, they will start singing.

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    • 813.52Ran says:

      I agree with you railer. I would love to see Comey, Brennan et al in prison garb.
      I don’t really care if Obama or the Clintons are physically locked up or not. Because when all the crap hits the fan and all is exposed, Hillary and Obama may be “walking free,” but they will be in a different kind of prison. Maybe even worse for them than incarceration.

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  32. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    Comey should have kept some extensive notes (maybe he did?) to cover his a**.
    Now, a conspiracy from his former playmates is being conjured up against him.
    Maybe he’s been paid to take the fall and is promised only a hand spanking from the righteous DC court system.

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    • Come and Take It says:

      The same type of notes akin to Susan Rice’s drafting of a memo to herself two weeks after the fact?

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    • trnathens says:

      Remember the memos he wrote, and LEAKED to his friend/attorney? Who leaked a couple to the Press? But not all?

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      • Amy2 says:

        If Comey had anything else to leak that would benefit him, it seems now would be the time.

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        • trnathens says:

          No, Amy, those got recovered, I believe.

          What I meant was…what kind of memos does Comey have on OBAMA?

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          • Amy2 says:

            Oh yeah, I got that, meaning if he kept memos on PDT, he probably also did on Obama. My point was, with the heat on him now, I don’t think he has any or he would have had someone leak them, or at least the existence of them.

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  33. Tseg says:

    The way I read the article, the Obama team was put in a compromised position by our intelligence community doing stuff they should not have been doing. The ethical thing Obama could have done was create a sh**t storm with the intelligence community during his departure by exposing all this. But that would have been an indictment against himself. To me, it seems like he just wanted this to go away, but put an explosive vest on Comey just to ensure Comey kept it buried. Now the intelligence community knowing they were set up had to devise a plan to truly bury this, which ended up being the unsuccessful coup plot. In their mind, getting rid of Trump was the only thing to keep them from getting found out. So they took the bad situation (spying on Flynn) and made it very very worse for themselves (coup plot)… ie, the coverup.

    With all the above said, something is missing here because it seems plotting to overthrow the President to cover the spying on a General is using a sledgehammer to kill a gnat. There has got to be more here.

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    • Tseg says:

      … and what about “the small group” meeting meeting a month before the events above already plotting “insurance”? Things seemed to already have been in motion well before these early January meetings, so, once again, there are a lot holes in the timeline of motivations.

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      • Amy2 says:

        I’m thinking it’s like the IRS (excuse the analogy) coming for an audit of your business going back five years. You have receipts under your mattress, in your trunk, at your girlfriend’s, and they all are questionable! You can’t even remember why you made that purchase or why you claimed it, but it was helping you at the time. You never thought you would actually hear “We’re from the IRS,” until you hear, “We’re from the IRS.”

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    • everywhereguyy says:

      The 2009-17 administration had all along been super intensively using, to its own political ends, the instrumentalities of the executive branch (which had become way more powerful than they were just 20-30 years ago, owing to modern technology) — IRS info, Lew at Treasury, the IC, the FBI, the larger DOJ, etc. The top people in the outgoing admin needed fall guys below themselves in case Orange Man Bad starting exposing things..

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    • Sharpshorts says:

      “There has got to be more here”
      I have thought this for years. How high does it go? Does it stop at Soros, the NWO or is there something bigger……who are those guys?

      One thing I’m convinced of is that whoever or whatever is ultimately behind it all (the all powerful them) has no problem with throwing ANYONE under the bus —
      ALL are expendable — those who fight OR support them, those who have fought -or-supported them or will fight-or-support them

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  34. dow40kby2024 says:

    Well done Sundance. WE KNOW……..

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  35. Nessie509 says:

    Like the original DD302, I bet the recording and transcript were “disappeared.”
    But, it would be good for Flynn & Republicans if Flynn’s comments in the transcript/recording are available and published so everyone can see that Flynn said what anyone would say to any diplomat during a transition to a new government.

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  36. bulwarker says:

    So today is Grenell’s last day as DNI. I expect Friday afternoon fireworks.

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  37. Doug Amos says:

    Sir? Mr Comey. it’s Mr Grennel on the line; he would like to schedule a meeting with you.

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  38. Coast says:

    How exactly does a person (Flynn) hire a defense law firm and not demand that the transcript be reviewed and examined? I don’t get that.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Covington (Eric Holder’s firm) wasn’t interested in defending Flynn so although a general request for production of documents would have covered the request of the transcript, obviously, they did not make it an issue, for obvious reasons, UNLESS it was produced to them and it was one of the many documents they withheld from Sidney Powell.

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    • Paprika says:

      Perzactly! How can you be accused of supposedly lying in an interview because it was supposedly different from the supposed call transcript when neither what you said in the interview or the call itself is presented as evidence? There’s no “there there” evidence in either instance.

      And it really becomes ridiculous when there was nothing illegal with Flynn talking with the ambassador in the 1st place. And doubly ridiculous when you consider the phone calls may have kept Russia from escalating Obama’s stupid political motive for ousting the diplomats. Was there even any evidence presented for Obama’s ousting of the diplomats?

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      • litenmaus says:

        “Was there even any evidence presented for Obama’s ousting of the diplomats?”

        12/09/2016 CIA tells Congress that the INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT is that the Russians hacked the DNC to help defeat Hillary Clinton’s campaign

        12/09/2016 President Obama orders intelligence community to investigate Russian influence on U.S. election

        12/09/2016 McCain provides a copy of Russian “STEELE DOSSIER” to FBI director James Comey

        12/13/2016 – The last portion of the “dossier” is submitted by Steele

        December 22, 2016 – CROWDSTRIKE publishes a REPORT titled “Use of Fancy Bear Android Malware in Tracking of Ukrainian Field Artillery Units“,It’s a slickly produced document, with a frightening comic book-style cover and plenty of charts and graphs. Crowdstrike’s villain in the report is Fancy Bear, which they say is a hacking group controlled by Russia’s GRU intelligence agency. Crowdstrike itself gave the group the name Fancy Bear, with ‘Bear’ referring to Russia [this report in early 2017 is found to have fraudulent claims and the Ukranian military forces Crowdstrike to rewrite the report]

        December 22, 2016 – DHS/FBI release their Joint Analysis INVESTIGATION REPORT on the Hacking of the DNC computer, propped up with ANOTHER CROWDSTRIKE REPORT that declared Fancy Bear & Cozy Bear had hacked the DNC Computer.

        December 28th, 2016 – Obama while on vacation in Hawaii….
        “I HAVE ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY for responding to certain cyber activity that seeks to interfere with or undermine our election processes and institutions, or those of our allies or partners,” effective 12:01 a.m.

        December 29, 2016 – 35 Russians are ejected and Russian assets are confiscated.

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  39. lackawaxen123 says:

    Rice asked for the transcripts of all calls to be released to give the appearance that there is “something” there … knowing full well that they will never be released … that is why she asked for it …

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  40. Elric VIII says:

    Susan Rice is not exactly known for her truthfulness. What if her “Meme To Self” is nothing but lies? She cannot be taken at her word.

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  41. Mathias says:

    Stay focused on January 6th and the Trump Tower meeting. That was the Deep State, wild swing, home-run attempt. General Flynn was a personal grudge issue, that could be used as a last-ditch insurance policy.

    In the Trump Tower meeting — in the future President’s own house — Comey, as Brutus, attacked as ordered. When Comey (as planned), stayed behind, after the formal meeting, to blackmail Citizen Trump with only the salacious material, there was a vast media army…the “friends of Brutus,” ready to play their role. This play was a deathshot attempt. Actually, it was “deathshot attempt #2,” with the media incredulous, that their earlier, lying in wait, “Access Hollywood,” timed assassination, had somehow failed. There, they had held the story, until, what they thought, would be the perfect time. The hope there, was that Citizen Trump would be shamed into stepping out of the race. Likewise, that was the goal of Comey, in the Trump Tower assassination attempt. They were hoping Citizen Trump would blink, that though they knew the Steele Dossier was BS, perhaps Citizen Trump would remember something in his past, that happened in Russia and he might be conned into thinking Comey and the Deep State apparatus had it.

    So after Comey lunges with his knife, the media is pre-positioned to strike, with a mass-bedlam contrivance, trying to destabilize the equilibrium of Citizen Trump and in the 24/7 media hysteria blitz that followed, hoped he would make a rash panic resignation.

    But President-elect Trump, having weathered the Access Hollywood assassination attempt, did not blink, at this second attempted assassination, orchestrated by Barry, the Chi-town clown.

    Now, to me, the real question is, the prosecutorial question is, who led, was in on and played a role in the Trump Tower assassination-resignation machination?

    Soetero “friends, this is it, don’t fail me, the Messiah cannot be seen slipping on a banana peel”

    O”Biden “I’ve put my foot in my mouth more often than the Donner Party”

    Rice “knife him, by the book”

    Rhodes “I’m so SOY”

    Brennan “I’m watching Valkyrie”

    Clapper “I got O, nudes of Ivanka”

    Comey “Master, I will not fail”

    Hill & Bill “Soros has sent the limo”

    Podesta “I’ll be at Epstein’s relaxing”

    Jeff Zucker “we’re ready”

    Andy Lack “the lesbian is ready”

    Noah Oppenheimer

    Songbird McCain & his
    Appendage Graham

    McConnell “make it so”

    Nancy “I’m all in”

    Paul Ryan “Let me know the status, I’m texting Mittens now”

    Michelle Obama “hey clean, did I ever tell you about the time I played the stunt double, in the shower scene, for the HBO movie, The Shaquille O’Neal Story? No CGI there buddyboy!”

    All aware the Trump Tower hit was going down. All “friends of Brutus.”

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  42. hocuspocus13 says:

    What happened to Flynn has very little to do with any phone call ~ transcripts or any possible 302s that might or might not exist…

    Flynn was targeted because he was against Obama’s Iran Deal and wanted to shut it down

    Flynn apparently was going to fire the Obama holdovers once in office

    Flynn knew the who’s who…

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    • L. E. Joiner says:

      Yep. Read this enormously important article by Lee Smith:
      ‘How Russiagate Began With Obama’s Iran Deal Domestic Spying Campaign’

      https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/russiagate-obama-iran

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      • DD says:

        Lee Smith’s take on ‘Russiagate’ makes complete sense. It focuses the whole story, not on Russia, but on Iran and the Obama team’s desperate efforts to prop up the Iran deal.

        So the real question should be, Why was Obama so desperate to keep the deal going, well after he was out of office? It can’t be because he thought it was such great policy. I also don’t think he would mobilize the whole IC to engage in illegal domestic spying that could blow up in their faces just to save a deal with built-in expiry dates. There must be something more. Something personal. What does Iran know and what were they threatening to do?

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        • L. E. Joiner says:

          Lee Smith suggests that Obama thought of the Iran Nuclear Deal as part of a fundamental restructuring of the Middle East, based on Iranian hegemony. Remember, one or both of Valerie Jarrett’s parents were Iranian, and Obama himself was pro-Muslim (and anti-Israel). General Flynn saw the great danger in this scheme, and said so before Congress.

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          • DD says:

            I don’t buy it. Obama put much less effort into saving Obamacare and objectively, that is a much more consequential policy. I think it’s personal. Maybe the mullahs were going to release Something really embarrassing. Lord knows there’s plenty of that floating around. Obama is thin skinned and vindictive. But he’s also a coward. It had to be something big for him to be risking so much for such a crappy deal (that couldn’t even get ratified).

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            • L. E. Joiner says:

              I don’t doubt that there was a personal element there, too: his intense dislike of Lt. Gen. Flynn. Remember, Flynn was everything Obama was not: courageous military man and patriot, who also understood the intelligence world. Flynn had also vowed, once he was National Security Advisor, to clean the Obama leftovers out of the intelligence agencies, and my guess is he would sweep out all the pro-Muslim elements in the Defense Department, too. Also, foreign policy had much more importance to the place of America in the world than Obamacare, and it was that place that Obama wanted to diminish. /LEJ

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    • MelH says:

      BRAVO HocusPocus13. This important fact keeps getting lost in the rhetoric!

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  43. Doc Hellfish says:

    I guess all this proves that only Europeans and Jews are capable of peaceful transfer of power. Yes.. Obama was the first black presidet.. he was also the first President in our 242 year history at the time to break the one thing that separates us from human history.. congrats

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  44. bjorn says:

    The reason no 3 (no transcript) is likely is because a pen register/pen trap usually just records meta-data about the call (numbers/time etc) not the actual call transcript. AFAIK the use of a pen requires a FISA auth or a court order.

    So it seems likely Clapper provided the content on request of someone with specific call data and Comey never had it to start with, unless he got it by back channels.

    Hot Potato perhaps.

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    • trnathens says:

      Guys, if they want the transcript of the last time you ordered a large, double cheese pizza with pepperoni from Dominos, they CAN, and they will either find it, or conclusively determine you have NEVER ordered such a pizza from dominoes, but you HAVE made that order from Hunters, Papa John’s, and Mellow Mushroom. But it’s been for and a half years, and the lady time you did, you used a debit card ending in 4374, and you left a fifty cent tip, you cheap bastard.

      Pen registers is what they TESTIFY about. But that is 1900s technology.

      Read this:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

      It’s ONE…of MANY.

      Supposedly, the ELECTRIC BILL alone was $40 million per year, just to keep the servers cool.

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  45. Tparty says:

    Bongino does extended interview with Sydney Powell.

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    • If all true , then FBI rogue “ Gang” was taking one hell of a risk . Did Comey NOT expect to get fired and think he could manage events? This may explain Flynn trap . But what about Pap. / Brennan and earlier spying . That had to be Brennan/CIA imitated , yes? FBI /Comey couldn’t have started all that without an early assist from Brennan ? Did Brennan just whisper in Comey’s ear and knew Comey was dumb enough try to be a new JEdger to go all in and run with it ?

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      • trnathens says:

        Taking a risk, yes, but calculated.

        The HURRICANE in Crossfire Hurricane was the mess they created with information, misinformation, leaks, sources close to the investigation, innuendo, and press participating to create not only a cacophony of noise, all anti-Trump, but also make it harder for him to accomplish anything (or so they thought).

        They never expected him him to survive, or stick around. So then they don’t get caught.

        They truly underestimated PDJT. NO understanding of who he is, what he believes, his determination, drive, steadfastness.

        How the EFF did he win the election?
        How the EFF is he still in office?
        How the EFF is he still alive (Kennedy picked a fight with the IC, too)

        How? I believe he was sent here as a messenger of God. I truly do. I believe he is a Christ-figure, here to lead ALL OF US, all citizens of this world, in a fight against evil.

        This IS a clash of civilizations.

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  46. Eaglet says:

    After all Obama had a Pen and a Phone…SMH

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  47. distracted2 says:

    Finally, an explanation why the memo-to-self was made that makes sense to me. There has been whispers and innuendo that if Obama and/or Biden skate, they will make an example of Comey.

    That makes Barr’s statement about Obama and Biden a dog whistle of sorts – in other words, if you’re going to talk, it’s now or never.

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  48. Bogeyfree says:

    The question remains, what is it that Flynn knows that would drive these folks to go all out for one man?

    They not only wanted Flynn out of the Trump Administration but IMO they needed to totally discredit him as a liar so any future statements could easily be discounted in the media.

    So again, what is it Flynn knew and/or could expose that potentially was so damaging that a full court press was required on Flynn even after months of finding nothing?

    The key IMO is that stay behind meeting. Is that where the real marching orders were given?
    That is the meeting where a possible Grenell transcript/recording is much needed IMO if there was one.

    Remember Comey began with Obama in Sept 2013 as his FIB Director replacing Mueller.

    So what was going on in late 2013 – 2016?

    How about alleged NSA Contractor Spying on Americans via FIB computers?

    Yes, we also had the Iran Deal but that was beyond just Comey. Benghazi was before Comey.

    IMO we need to focus on what would drive this level of obsession that possibly connects the parties?

    I agree the Rice memo is all CYA and IMO agreed upon to provide plausible deniability and that was accepted by all. Notice over the past 3.5 years after the memo, Comey hasn’t tried to poo poo it or redirect the under the bus play? Why?

    So IMO for Comey to accept the CYA means there had to be something they didn’t want exposed and it most likely was BEFORE 2016 and Flynn.

    What did they fear that needed a very private stay behind meeting that also allowed for the effort to take down Flynn to keep going?

    Could it is it be the proposed NSA audits by Flynn once he took over with PT and those audits much like Adm. Rodgers 6 month audit, expose years of spying on Americans which would damage the legacy FOREVER?

    So yes, altered 302’s, no call transcript, just cuts and all the other games that we have seen recently including the latest with the dismal, all IMO to label, smear and destroy a man so when his story is told, his credibility won’t hold water, especially with the media doing their normal hatchet job.

    Remember the core group of 5-6 back in 2009 are pretty much the core group involved today although, today they have many more layers and have pushed the Russia Collusion Cover-up down to their lackeys.

    Coincidence?? I think not.

    IMO it has always been the Spying on Americans and gathering information for future Leverage!

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    • Mary says:

      Flynn knew tons. He knew Russia was not the threat to US national security as Obama presented. Rather China was the threat, heaven forbid. He knew they built up and supplied ISIS in Syria. He knew our intelligence ‘community’ was corrupt. Flynn knew tons and he talked it. You dont do that to liberals and especially to their messiah.

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  49. Genie says:

    The interview objective was to embarrass Pence at Flynn’s expense. “Don’t escalate” is all they needed to hear from any CR cut and then ask Flynn if he remembered saying it or anything similar. The small group needed only a smidgeon of catnip to set off the media cats howling “Flynn lied to Pence!”

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  50. richard verney says:

    The other day, I said that it was very strange that WH Counsel had suggested to Rice that she should memorialise the 5th January meeting/discussion. They could not have made such a recommendation, unless someone discussed with them the detail of the 5th January meeting. SD has now put forward a reason as to why that was the case, ie., that Rice was concerned about the meeting, and the need for the Obama administration to distance itself from the FBI investigations, so she discussed this with WH Counsel, and they then recommended that she should create the CYA memo to help distance the Obama admin.

    SD states “The purpose of the meeting was to create distance from an explosive & political issue. The outgoing administration needed distance from James Comey….Now, FBI Director James Comey isn’t stupid, and he would have immediately picked up on how he was being positioned outside the protective wire and completely on his own. Being a very political FBI Director, Comey would know exactly what the purpose of these specific words and instructions from the President implied.”

    So this begs the question, if Comey knew that he was being set up as the fall guy, why did he go along with it? If he was specifically told to do things “by the book,” why did he, on 24th January, not do things “by the book” and deliberately parted with the accepted protocol, by not first liaising with WH Counsel before sending in the FBI agents to interview Flynn, as would have been required, if Comey was doing things “by the book”?

    Comey had done his job, by allowing HRC to walk, and to compete in the 2016 election, so why would Comey be so invested in removing Flynn from office? There was no need to expose himself, in this manner, by going rogue. Why did he not place a memo on file that he was instructed by the WH to further investigate Flynn? After all, he too, could have written a CYA memo to file, just like Rice.

    Don’t forget what Clapper has already confirmed when interviewed by CNN: “One point I’d like to make, Anderson, that I don’t think has come up very much before, and I’m alluding now to the President’s criticism of President Obama for all that he did or didn’t do before he left office with respect to the Russian meddling. If it weren’t for President Obama, we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set off a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today, notably, special counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that, and it was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place. I think it’s an important point when it comes to critiquing President Obama.”

    So it would have been very easy for Comey to write his own CYA note to file, making it clear that it was Obama that was pushing this further investigation of Flynn. If Comey is smart, why did he not cover his own back?

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Maybe he did. He was one to maintain prsonal memos as he disclosed regarding his meeting with P45 and he produced some (uncertain if it’ll all) when it suited him. Maybe he would produce such a personal memo that you describe if and when he needs it to save his own neck. A distinct possibly, imo, given his proven pattern of doing so.

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