Declassified DOJ Letter to FISA Court Highlights Severe Institutional Corruption – DOJ Blames FBI For Spygate…

Amid a series of documents released by the Senate Judiciary Committee [SEE HERE] there is a rather alarming letter from the DOJ to the FISA Court in July 2018 that points toward an institutional cover-up.   [Link to Letter]

Before getting to the substance of the letter, it’s important to put the release in context.  After the FISA Court reviewed the DOJ inspector general report, the FISC ordered the DOJ-NSD to declassify and release documents related to the Carter Page FISA application.

In the cover letter for this specific release to the Senate Judiciary and Senate Intelligence committees, the DOJ cites the January 7, 2020, FISA court order:

Keep in mind that prior to this release only the FISA court had seen this letter from the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).  As we walk through the alarming content of this letter I think you’ll identify the motive behind the FISC order to release it.

First, the letter in question was sent by the DOJ-NSD to the FISA Court on July 12, 2018.  It is critical to keep the date of the letter in mind as we review the content.

Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application.   The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.

However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:

As you can see: Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”.  Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”

Now things get very interesting.

On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.

This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier the sub-source, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk.

Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):

Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself.

Those interviews were 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC.   The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation.  Why?

Keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018.  Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.

Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source?  This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.

By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the court and said the predicate was still valid.  Why?

It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.

In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.

This letter justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My research suspicion is that the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority.  That’s the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation.  The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending.  The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the letter.

Remember, in December the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they would have immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.

The DOJ letter is a transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report. Hence, the court orders the DOJ to release the July letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.

The court was misled; now everyone can see it.

The content of that DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application.  The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree…. And yes, that is ongoing.

Moving on…

Two more big misstatements within the July letter appear on page #9.  The first is the DOJ claiming that only after the application was filed did they become aware of Christopher Steele working for Fusion-GPS and knowing his intent was to create opposition research for the Hillary Clinton campaign.  See the top of the page.

According to the DOJ-NSD claim the number four ranking official in the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, never told them he was acting as a conduit for Christopher Steele to the FBI.   While that claim is hard to believe, in essence what the DOJ-NSD is saying in that paragraph is that the FBI hoodwinked the DOJ-NSD by not telling them where the information for the FISA application was coming from.  The DOJ, via John Demers, is blaming the FBI.

The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted.  October 2016 through June 2017.

In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017.  That denial seems rather unlikely; however, once again the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.

Bruce Ohr, whose wife was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI.  Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.

Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018).  If what the DOJ is saying is true, well, the FBI was completely off-the-rails and rogue.

Neither option speaks well about the integrity of either institution; and quite frankly I don’t buy the DOJ-NSD spin.  Why?  The reason is simple, the DOJ is claiming in the letter the predication was still valid… if the DOJ-NSD genuinely didn’t know about the FBI manipulation, they would be informing the court in 2018 the DOJ no longer supported the FISA application due to new information.  They did not do that.  Instead, in July 2018, they specifically told the court the predicate was valid, yet the DOJ-NSD knew it was not.

The last point about the July 2018 letter is perhaps the most jarring.  Again, keep in mind when it was written Chris Wray is FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy and Dana Boente is FBI chief legal counsel.

Their own FBI reports, by three different INSD and IG investigations; had turned up seriously alarming evidence going back to the early 2017 time-frame; the results of which ultimately led to the DC FBI office losing all of their top officials; and knowing the letter itself was full of misleading and false information about FBI knowledge in/around Christopher Steele; this particular sentence is alarming:

“The FBI has reviewed this letter and confirmed its factual accuracy?”


As we have just shared, the July 2018 letter itself is filled with factual inaccuracies, misstatements and intentional omissions.  So who exactly did the “reviewing”?

This declassification release raises more questions than any other in recent memory.  Perhaps AG Bill Barr will now start asking some rather hard questions to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Here’s the Full Letter.  I strongly suggest everyone read the 14-pages slowly.  If you know the background, this letter is infuriating…



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513 Responses to Declassified DOJ Letter to FISA Court Highlights Severe Institutional Corruption – DOJ Blames FBI For Spygate…

  1. Brant says:

    We have seen/heard/read that once Senate confirmed, a person can get in another position without going thru senate confirmation again. Is that just with a current POTUS or Senate, or could Trump scour the still alive people from maybe Reagan admin and see if he can find some real workhorses who would like to kick some butt? I know Barr had served before. Was he confirmed with the current senate or was that just a formality?

    A recess appointment without senate in recess.

    Liked by 2 people

  2. Steven Interest says:

    It sounds like a whole lot of lying going on that had absolutely nothing to do with AG Barr. It does appear to be something that Sessions, Rosenstein, and Wray should have been on top of. Despite Sessions’ spot-on rejection of more jobs being given away to potential immigrants during a pandemic, his early recusal and subsequent blind eye is good reason for Trump to reject him.

    Rosenstein and Wray, though, appear to be participants in this fiasco. I do not see how they could claim not to know. Since they were in charge, not knowing could only be achieved by ordering everyone to tell them nothing. Wray truly should be released. The best one can say about him is that he’s incompetent. But, the president’s hands are tied by the Senate’s refusal to confirm nominees.

    One thing that bothers me is that senators and representatives and staffers seemed to know the truth on this all along. They were tipped off under the table. The liberals proceeded to lie about the facts. The conservatives proceeded to heavily hint as to the facts.

    I’m offended by that to be honest about it. I see no national security concerns that should have kept this as classified information. It was only done so to protect politicians and bureaucrats.

    Liked by 14 people

    • Due Gonzalez says:

      Yes, there are no security concerns just like the fake Whistleblower Eric CIA. They are flaunting it in our faces. The fact that the fake outrage is all our IC, DOJ and congress critters can muster says it all. The fact that MSM is an inbred known DNC and NWO propaganda machine, and our citizens allow it, says it all.

      Liked by 5 people

    • gsonFIT says:

      Term Limits

      Liked by 3 people

      • They are all STILL free and will remain that way. The corruption in our govt is so vast, so broad and so deep, it will/can never be corrected.

        Liked by 1 person

        • jeff montanye says:

          certainly hope the president is planning on some major trials in the summer and fall of this year. if no one in the photo montage, not forgetting demers, is indicted before the election, how can he avoid the charge of fraud from his own supporters?


    • Orville R. Bacher says:

      With the DOJ and all their underlying Agencies completely immune from the light of day, isn’t this the perfect condition for a Foreign Government to undermine the USA; to foment dissension?
      Drip by drop, the entire Government apparatus is undermining itself.
      If the main traitors, snug-as-a-bug in their Government offices, comfortably collecting their Government pensions, are not rooted out, indicted and convicted, then this deliberately exported into the USA, Chinese Corona-Virus, will look like diversion.

      Liked by 6 people

    • inspectorudy says:

      I still believe that there must be one takedown of an elite liar involved in this case to break the damn. Until that happens none of the guilty has any reason to come forward or to cooperate with Barr or Durham. Hot breath on their necks will do wonders!

      Liked by 6 people

  3. Trygve says:

    Why would the deep state (Graham, et al.) even release these documents? It’s incredibly damaging to them. Is it part of some sort of limited hangout scheme?

    Liked by 1 person

  4. jimmy matho says:

    they all need to hang for high treason against our Republic!!!!

    Liked by 8 people

  5. jimmy matho says:

    they all need to hang for high treason against our Republic!!!!

    Liked by 3 people

  6. NJF says:

    I hate these F’ing people…….burn it down.

    Liked by 9 people

    • ann says:

      I feel the same,
      Intensifies as they refuse to come clean,
      Dragging out this self created MESS continues to destroy our country’s political stability and national security . That denial speaks to the unfit state of the Bureau & JD.

      As if they haven’t done enough harm already.


  7. namberak says:

    As long as a modified Sgt. Schultz defense works, they’ll keep doing it. Until someone’s doing a perp walk, well…

    Liked by 5 people

  8. Perot Conservative says:

    High Level Questions

    1. Barr had to authorize this. Right? Grenell had the actual levers, and Barr said “Bombs away”?

    (It wasn’t released Friday afternoon… they want us to see it.)

    2. What’s next?

    3. MSM quiet – still trying to figure out how to play it?

    4. Is this the ammo needed to fire Chris Wray?

    5. Is this the start of The Big Ugly?

    It will be interesting to hear tik tok Joe diGenova’s take … he was correct that Ric Grenell was a game changer.

    Note: not sure why Sundance skips it, but Joe has said Durham has a GJ impaneled (in Connecticut), he said this over a year ago. George Papadopoulos also said he appeared before a GJ.

    Liked by 2 people

    • adam says:

      I suspect the timing is/was also influenced by the WuFlu hysteria – this is too big to allow it to be eclipsed by Fake News but lots of folks are tiring of hearing about NYC. We have a solid exit plan from this fiasco and that’s great news.

      I think you might be onto something with this as a justification for firing Wray, although I suspect he will resign instead. Either way, this is a huge release and hopefully some gears will turn.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Mike in a Truck says:

      I’m not worried about any of this. Not losing sleep. “oh why no arrests!” Oh why no perp walks?” Oh thire getting away with it!”Oh why my panties in a twist?” President Trump has got this. To believe otherwise..well let’s just slow the Trump Train down to 90mph so you can hop off.

      Liked by 3 people

    • dwpender says:

      You’re correct re what Joe said about a GJ. When news of Durham’s investigation broke in May of 2019, Joe on Dobbs said that Durham had already had a GJ sitting “for a couple of months, issuing subpoenas.”

      George P said he appeared before one or more of Mueller’s GJs, but I’ve never heard him or any other witness say they appeared before a Durham GJ.

      Liked by 1 person

    • artemis1701 says:

      Glad I found this site-group; sundance has some amazing insights and analysis – I’ve past relied upon John Solomon’s investigative reporting on these subjects. A couple of questions: 1) These documents were released today 4/17/20?; 2) Sessions was asleep at the wheel or knowingly complicit?; 3) Joseph diGenova – where is he now?

      Liked by 1 person

    • tozerbgood8315 says:

      “Barr had to authorize this. Right?”

      Doublecheck your dates. Barr didn’t assume office until Feb 2019.


      • David says:

        He is referring to Barr authorizing the release of the documents, not authorizing the specific Spygate events. Yes, Barr had to authorize it.


  9. islandpalmtrees says:

    I think most of us see, Sundance’s logic as undeniable. He has successfully painted a portrait of political corruption unequaled in American history.

    I now have a question that concerns me even more. Did the Deep State create another scandal or should I say homicidal act even worse, in an attempt to cover up this political corruption? Did they release or help to release a virus in order to remove President Trump from office? Were they willing to allow people within our country to be killed by this virus In order to avoid answering charges of political corruption?

    It seems inconceivable, that anyone or any organization could choose such a path.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

      It doesn’t seem the least bit inconceivable to me.

      Liked by 8 people

    • Bogeyfree says:

      I have been asking the question……….

      If this virus has been planned or maybe leveraged to cause harm to PT, the economy while destroying jobs and American lives literally would not that be considered an act of terror?

      And if so, is that not justifiable of a massive investigation using at least the NSA database to see who might have been talking about all of this with who as early as last summer, well before there was any there there??

      IMO PT owes it to the American people to look and ensure this was all by nature and an accident.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Bogey, if you have been listening to President Trump you should know where he stands on this and that he is levels above where we are and knows exactly what happened.

        And yep, it’s definitely an act of terror in that case and will not go left unattended.

        He IS using all the “tools” “they” set up against them, it’s obvious!

        Liked by 1 person

    • vikingmom says:

      No only conceivable BUT probable IMHO!

      Liked by 7 people

      • G. Alistar says:

        Of course conceivable but rather, not probable IMHO. No way to control the second and third order effects of a virus originating in China….speed of spread and importantly, the mortality rate. More probable, Dems and their MSM are using the pandemic to create a distraction from Obama and HRC’ corruption in the FBI, DoJ, administration and especially in the DNC. Still troubling is the massive and sustained two year cover up by the abuse of the intelligence community “classification system” as virtually all of the secret and top secrecy classification has NOTHING to do with protecting sources or national security. It rather has everything to to with hiding corruption by dirty cops in the FBI and corruption writ large in the Obama DoJ, White House and Administration. Accountability???

        Liked by 5 people

    • WSB says:

      I have been reading worse. There may be four amino acids engineered into this virus to increase transmission. Additionally, the CIA may have been working with the lab to create and release the virus in the US and by mistake or intent was released in Wuhan.

      Liked by 6 people

      • gitmo4crooks says:

        on fox….they called outlets like this conspiracy theories….trying to retain the NWO/Rino talking points narrative…….dismissed any fact finding leaks….
        call it what you may…im of the opinion that the posting here is probably more accurate

        Liked by 3 people

        • WSB says:

          Yes. We knew about the lab and the Bat Lady researcher about three weeks ago or more, so this report does not surprise me.

          Same as the Trayvon Martin case, the splitter strategy, the planned Jeb Bush/Clinton campaign, Operation Zero Footprint, and I could go on and on.

          Liked by 5 people

      • MR52 says:

        That is a good article. On a side note, I could not help but think of Phyllis Diller.
        She called her husband Fang.

        Liked by 2 people

        • Your Tour Guide says:

          I waited on Phyllis Diller at a restaurant/bar when
          I was between college gigs. This would be around
          80-81 ish. She had come to Dayton to play as a guest
          concert pianist with the Dayton Philharmonic. She grew
          up in Ohio. Lima, I believe.

          She was in town with her daughters. Both of whom
          were knock outs. In person, without the make up she
          was actually a very attractive woman. She was also
          very polite. A very nice woman.

          Liked by 4 people

    • rickinhouston says:

      Watergate cover up brought down Nixon. It’s the cover up thst does you in.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Yy4u says:

      Desperate people do desperate things. As Sundance says, there are trillions of $$$ at stake.

      For 30 years Globalists have worked steadily to set up a one world government. They have salted every country, especially ours, with their operativea.

      Why if that were threatened would they NOT fight like cornered rats?

      Not saying they released the virus, but the Deep State response to it has been to use it against the president as much as possible

      Liked by 2 people

      • zorrorides says:

        I’m saying it. They released the virus.

        Every action that a cover-upper will later call ‘less than optimum’ or, ‘potentially a mistake,’ was an ACTION that led to spread of the bio-weapon through the USA.

        This didn’t just fall into Deep State’s lap while they rested under the Covid Tree.

        Liked by 3 people

        • Yep. They released it, after they weaponized it to be highly contagious. They are evil and it’s the entire body of their actions that ARE going to take them down.

          Our President has told us all of this through his EOs and actions.

          We should be ready!

          Liked by 1 person

        • As a Man Thinkth says:

          Why did Nancy sit on the impeachment papers for the entire month of December 2019? The same timeline of the outbreak in China. Just a coincidence? Also, the host of Chinese officials showing up at the Whitehouse to sign the trade deal during this same period….kinda like that cell phone Muiller left in the office….

          Liked by 2 people

    • Issy says:

      The events of the last three and a half years were inconceivable to me. I am ready to believe anything now.

      Liked by 1 person

  10. Beau Geste says:

    Is “Stephen E. Boyd Assistant Attorney General” too stupid to even put a date on his letter to the congresscritters he mischaracterizes as “honorable”?

    Maybe the date is confidential “sources and methods”? That would be consistent with other absurd redaction reasons demonstrated by recent releases.

    Liked by 5 people

    • gitmo4crooks says:

      those listed as “honorable” are anything but that….it makes the memo already WRONG

      Liked by 2 people

    • owtolunch says:

      Clerical duties are done by the clerical staff…. following specific office protocols..

      Most of these documents are dated with an ink stamp when they are sent…

      originals get stamped and dated, file copies are stamped and dated and filed…. additional copies are stamped “copy” to indicate it is not an original…. electronic documnets are electronically dated.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Beau Geste says:

        Thx. It shows that even the clerical staff is not competent enough to put on the date of the letter. I’d hoped that someone in the DOJ was honest and competent. Oh well…

        Liked by 3 people

  11. Serpentor says:

    You either clean house, or you don’t. You either drain the swamp, or you don’t.

    Enough excuses. What’s it going to be?

    Liked by 1 person

  12. WSB says:

    This is the DOJ-NSD group that Sally Yates, DAG, denied the IG access. Sally Yates, DOJ.

    Liked by 7 people

  13. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    Lick ’em and stick ’em, poke ’em and jab ’em.
    No Maggie’s Drawers!!!

    Liked by 1 person

  14. Beau Geste says:

    I hope Grennell has good Secret Service protection 24/7.

    He is a prime arkancide candidate. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, hillary, the monopoly media owned by international entertainment companies dependent on chinese revenue, and congresscritter hench-scum all have strong motive to want him gone.

    Maybe a barbell might fall on him, or his car might accelerate spontaneously, or he might shoot himself in Ft. March Park? But china virus is the most likely cause of death on his draft death certificate right now.

    Liked by 4 people

  15. Bogeyfree says:

    Recess Appointment by President Summary:

    President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments (average 30 per year)
    President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments (average 19 per year)
    President Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments (average of 17 per year).
    President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments (average of 21 per year).
    President Barack Obama made 32 recess appointments (through February 1, 2015)

    President Donald Trump – 0 recess appointments (average of 0 per year)

    This alone is why IMO we should sacrifice McConnell come the Nov election with the caveat that the polls clearly show PT would pick up 5-6 new GOP Senators in Nov.

    Liked by 12 people

    • DMSR says:

      If the polls clearly show that PT will pick up 5-6 new GOP Senators in NOV and PT had his replacement pick lined up for the gig, I would be more than happy to sacrifice McConnell. However, realistically, I doubt the polls will show that, much less show it clearly. I’m confident PT will be re-elected and even think we’ll probably gain seats (how many I’m not sure… there aren’t that many toss-up races for us to get unless everything blows wide open to the extent it did with Roy Moore, only in our favor this time)… but I wouldn’t bet on 5 or 6 seats and even if we did actually manage to pick up 5 or 6 seats, I wouldn’t bet on 5 or 6 being clearly indicated by the polls. That’s partially because the polls tend to favor Dems, but also because if we win that many seats, some of the results will defy conventional wisdom and the polls are just less likely to pick up on major upsets, no matter which party that favors. McConnell is good at his job and he’s on the same page as PT and MAGA on some important issues (the judiciary is massively important and he’s both simpatico and highly competent when it comes to that), so I doubt he’s going anywhere. That said, he IS weasel and I’d definitely prefer to have an effective MAGA person in there, but so much would have to line up for that to happen that I’d be really surprised to see it.

      Liked by 1 person

    • How would you “sacrifice” mitch mcturdle without the Kentucky voters?

      What is your plan to do this? What poll have you so much faith in that you would quote it?
      What do you expect to gain from it?

      Would everything the President is doing that you don’t like and what he isn’t doing that you demand happen now be forgotten if Bathhouse Bari Obama were the first perp walk?

      It could happen, stick around!!



  16. johnnyfandango says:

    So only 29 FISAs were audited by the IG, of the over 700 during a set period of time. Why aren’t the remaining be audited as well…let’s pull back the curtains. Were they all political? What was Obama/Biden doing to their political rivals? Powers, Rice, does Durham have their emails and texts too? A high-tech, surveillance and lynching indeed.

    Liked by 9 people

    • James P. Ryan says:

      Wouldn’t that stir up the fake news crowd? That is exactly what is needed; pull back the curtains and let the chips fall where they may.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Perot Conservative says:

      I have a more simple request.

      1. Publicly name who the 29 Targets are.

      2. If a fair number are political, divulge all 700 FISA Targets.

      Liked by 3 people

      • gitmo4crooks says:

        over 36% were typical aamerican citizens………………………….

        Liked by 3 people

      • G. Alistar says:

        I want all 29 target names released AND an audit/IG investigation of all the other 700 FISA inquiries. It’s called: accountability!

        Liked by 3 people

      • Beau Geste says:

        Perot, good idea, and perhaps even better yet,
        1. release all the people illegally spied on by the 85% illegal political “unmasking” which Admiral Rogers forced the crooked FISC to admit. At least tell each US Person privately,, so they can sue for civil rights abuse. And even join together in a class action.

        2. Release all the US Citizens spied on by the fake, Constitutionally reprehensible “2 hop” rule from any of the 4 Fake FISAs (including fraudulent extensions) on carter page and President Trump. This could be thousands, or more. Again, private notice would be acceptable, and would be adequate for a class action against the DOJ, FBI, FISC and the individuals involved in intentional denial of civil rights under color of law 18 USC 242.

        Judicial Watch people are likely in the “2-hop spied on” FISA list, so they would make a good class action plaintiff.

        Any US Persons who can prove being in communication with Carter Page during the spy period(s) should be able to bring a class action suit on behalf of themselves and others in the class. They could use security cleared lawyers.

        Liked by 3 people

      • As a Man Thinkth says:

        I would expect a competent IG, once discovering this depth of corruption, would systematically review all 700 warrants in order to evaluate bias and/or political motive…IMHO, Horowitz issued another “half azzed” report simply stating ” Yeah, there’s a fire over there somewhere”.

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    • PS says:

      In a normal audit, you take a statistically significant sample, 30 to get 95% confidence. Then you test against controls. If you fail, you PULL ANOTHER 30 in case the first batch contained outliers (which can happen in a large population), and Repeat again if you fail, and eventually you test enough that you pass or you run out of population.

      In this case, the IG has an obligation to review more batches of FISA until he finds a batch that is entirely clean. I think he will end up reviewing all 700 and find flaws in every one. Failing 29/29 in a “random” pull does not bode well for the population of all FISAs.

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  17. James P. Ryan says:

    How can anyone justify Wray not being fired? If he wasn’t an active participant, then he should be fired for gross incompetence.

    Liked by 4 people

  18. Perot Conservative says:

    Something is going on … recent developments:

    1. Anonymous outted & transferred out to the Middle East (Victoria Coats, a Ted Cruz mole)
    2. Footnotes declassified
    3. Barr Laura Ingraham interview (“not just sloppiness”, etc.)
    4. this Big Declass

    After the Footnotes were declassified: Buck Sexton: “Rep. Devin Nunes, R.-Calif., told “The Buck Sexton Show”on Thursday to expect additional criminal referrals after a declassified report shows the FBI relied on British spy Christopher Steele’s dossier to secure a FISA warrant despite warnings of a possible Russian disinformation campaign.”

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  19. Bogeyfree says:

    Based on this new declassified document IMO there are only two paths…..

    1) Barr and Durham case is far enough along or even complete to allow/support Grenell to release this document to prepare Americans for what is coming.

    2) Barr is not on board with the release but this is pressure being applied to get a move on or get ready for a change.

    Now with the Senate confirmation problem assuming PT is ready to make a change, PT can do this with just the stroke of his pen and it requires ZERO Senate participation/confirmation. It could be done and in place instantly.

    1) Slide Eugene Scalia over from Sec. of Labor to AG

    2) Because Sec. Scalia is already a confirmed Secretary and has already gone through the Senate confirmation process for the Sec of Labor position, no additional Senate approvals are needed.

    3) To help AG Scalia, appoint Sidney Powell as WH Justice Czar. (Note Obama appointed 45 Czars during his presidency)

    4) WH Appointees / Czars DO NOT Require Senate Confirmation so both Mr. Scalia and Ms. Powell can start next day if necessary.

    5) In her role as Justice Czar, Sidney works daily with Durham and the US Attorney’s from St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Brooklyn to allow a second set of eyes and to ensure all stones are being turned over.

    6) You provide both Mr. Scalia, Ms. Powell and Mr. Grenell with full declass authority to read and review all unredacted documents related to this coup.

    7) Because of Sidney’s past experience and knowledge of the DOJ and how it should work vs how it has been working, she is perfect to help AG Scalia bring about equal justice and real change within the DOJ and FBI.

    Now let me point out that we know Sidney reads AND occasionally posts here. I have been posting this option for months now and to date Sidney has never jumped in and said something like……

    Not going to happen or I’m not interested.

    So I hold out hope assuming PT wants to make a change but you got to admit a team of ………

    Scalia, Grenell and Powell would be a true kick ass team IMO.

    Liked by 7 people

  20. Just an initial observation of my first reading of this letter.

    1) the revelation that the papa d conversation with CHS was recorded with both of their knowledge. First time I ever heard that.

    2) it seems like the FBI is still trying to hide information by saying that some redactions are because of sequester.

    3) it seems as if they are both acknowledging and denying knowing that Ohr was talking to Steele.

    4) they had exculpatory information that they never shared with the court.

    5) they tried saying they shared with the court the Clinton angle when in fact they did not.

    The most important thing though is that this is great material in place of a sleeping pill. Off for nap time for me..

    Liked by 2 people

  21. theasdgamer says:

    I think that the list of swamp people who DIDN’T know about the fraud is shorter than the list of people who did.

    Liked by 7 people

  22. Scott says:

    If the DOJ is saying its the FBIs fault, why isn’t the DOJ prosecuting the FBI for fraud, perjury, and Sedition?

    Liked by 3 people

  23. Cathy M. says:

    SD: “Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May”
    “Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source? This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.
    One reason why those meetings w/ the sub-source might have been necessary was because the Oct. 2016 FISA surveillance didn’t reveal any new/additional information/evidence that would back-up the allegation. The Oct. warrant was about to run out. The FBI required new information to legally obtain a renewal of the warrant.

    So they re-interview the sub-source for new info to obtain renewals. Give me something! Give me something! Anything!!

    January 2017 meeting w/ source – January FISA renewal
    March meeting – April renewal
    April meeting – May renewal

    I couldn’t find the exact dates but I’m betting they were all before the next renewal.

    Liked by 3 people

  24. ARW says:

    The declass could be an attempt to prompt the conspirators to talk via email or phone.


  25. James Groome says:

    Carter Page renewal was issued on the 13th… ONE DAY AFTER the FBI interview the SUBSOURCE… why was the renewal sought knowing the SUBSOURCE says it was all bunk?
    Because the rank and file are nothing more than corrupt enablers.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Beau Geste says:

      thanks ! The DOJ/FBI are clearly violating the FISC ethics requirements.
      They lied, fabricated a fake story that carter page was a russian agent despite CIA notice, fabricated barroom talk financed from hillary’s campaign, did not vet until after submission but learned before Warrant extension but never notified the FISC.

      The FISC is required to withdraw the purloined, tainted Warrant to protect its integrity, so it is not protecting the liars and participating in their illegal spying and civil rights abuse.

      Any honest Federal court would withdraw a tainted, lied-for, unsupportable Order. But the FISC has an extra-heavy duty to wothdraw its fake, lied-for Orders becuse its only reason for existence is to protect unrepresented US Citizens from illegal spying. Warrants based on lies, unvetted false evidence, and withheld evidence are an abomination, but this FISC continues to protect the perpetrators, unethical DOJ and liars by not withdrawing their fake Warrants.
      The FISC judges should be removed for lack of “good behavior” required for service under the Constitution.

      Liked by 5 people

  26. CTH Fan was says:

    Declassification is to allow people to see and understand the reason for the indictments before the names of the indicted are released. It helps a lot if some of the criminal behavior is released by DOJ and others beforehand.

    Prepping is very important to keep the peace. The press coverage of COVID-19 can only occupy the nation for so long and we are about to embark on reopening the economy. People are still stuck in their houses and have more time to pay attention to alternative media. They are getting tired of the MSM propaganda.

    Just my opinion of course.

    Liked by 4 people

    • While the people also get to see the “blame games” like this one, and the cause of them as well… it’s also very important that those people still “sleeping” ( how fortunate in a way!) see all these things to understand what crimes have been committed against We The People and the severity of them.

      Like TREASON.

      Obama committed TREASON. Maybe he is up first.


  27. ChampagneReady says:

    And then they have the gall to whine and protest why Trump fired Sessions.

    Sessions was frequently seen having early morning breakfasts with Rosenstein in a DC restaurant. More info is constantly dribbling out every week why.

    And there are two more names way in the dust of the past that are sewer rats in this set-up plot too some way or other—Sydney Blumenthal and Cody Shearer. There were both undercover POS for Clinton.

    One or both of them was either feeding information to Steele or at the very least providing a pre-arranged 3rd leg of the triangle to get false garbage leaked to their friendly media so the FBI could say “aha” a source corroborating our ongoing findings of Trump Russia collusion.

    I’m quite confident these names are going to surface as being major players in the Comey/Brennan connection of the frame up plan. They’re both scum.

    And as far as Wray is concerned, I’d like to see him ejected headfirst out the front door of the FBI building by federal marshals.

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  28. Beau Geste says:

    The first ‘spy on the US President’ extension was submitted February 7, 2017.
    When was it approved by the collaborating FISC?
    How long did it take the collaborating FISC to do its only job, to thoroughly review and question the ‘extension’ allegations to protect the civil rights of those thousands-to-millions of US Citizens involved in a Political Campaign, Transition Team, and White House Administration?
    February 7? Or later? Did the FISC just say “where do we sign?”, or did they even read it, much less carefully study it?
    How many then-pending Warrant Applications were there to read through, which were submitted before the February 7 ‘extension’ fraud? How long to read them all, thoroughly, before reviewing the fraudulent February 7 request?

    Does someone know the grant date for the February 7 ‘extension’ request? Is that the one that Wolfe texted to his mistress, which has a blanked-out date?

    The DOJ/FBI had an ethical obligation to immediately tell the FISC that the that carter page was a russian asset was fake, and that the ‘bar-talk’ evidence about PDJTwas bogus.
    The FISC has an ethical and constitutional obligation to withdraw (nunc pro tunc) all the faked FISAs and extensions, as being based on false evidence. No spy warrant based on false evidence should stand. Any honest court would withdraw an Order of the Court based on false evidence, lies, withholding of evidence, and ethical violations. But this FISC refuses to withdraw its fake FISA Warrants in order to protect the liars, fakers and unethical DOJ/FBI lawyers and evidence-swearers, in violation of their extra-heavy duty to protect the civil rights of unrepresented defendants in a secret Star Chamber Court.

    Liked by 3 people

  29. islandpalmtrees says:

    Does this mean it was leaked or released from Lab in China?

    Doctor Who Discovered HIV Confident COVID-19 Was Created in a Lab!
    By Jared Harris Published April 17, 2020

    Professor Luc Montagnier, a central member of the team that identified HIV during the early days of the AIDS epidemic, is now bucking the media consensus on the novel coronavirus by claiming the pathogen was at least partially edited in a laboratory.

    According to research performed by Montagnier, a Nobel Prize winner, and his mathematician partner Jean-Claude Perez, SARS-CoV-2 contains sequences of the human immunodeficiency virus — HIV.

    Montagnier revealed his reasoning on a French medical podcast Thursday, according to the French newspaper Le Parisien.


    • John says:

      In my opinion, this article is simply an attempt of the Communist Chinese Party to cover their rear, and misdirect the narrative. Evidence has been revealed that makes no doubt that this virus was manipulated by man, and had been worked on at the Wuhan lab. Actually, our CDC had been paying them to work with this virus for over five years.

      Everyone who works in China, is controlled by China (at least those who want to live). According to Wikipedia:
      Luc Antoine Montagnier : “Is a French virologist and joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[4] A long-time researcher at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, he currently works as a full-time professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University in China.[5]”

      I also recall a significant amount of controversy over the so-called “discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). It appears that most of those who have been connected in the upper echelons concerning HIV, are highly suspect.

      Winning a Nobel Prize has never been based on character. IE: (Barry) B.Obama, Arafat, etc.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Bogeyfree says:

      Assume PT knows but might be worth a twitter person linking the article to Don Jr and Meadows account.

      PT is the type of person who will pick up the phone and call the good Professor


  30. Troublemaker10 says:


  31. Stephen F. Paul says:

    We’ve seen a lot of lying scum ,even going on national cable shows and continue to perpetrate more lies. We know what they did. I want to see indictments and all of these people “Perp” walked on TV. Another section or aspect of the left will will be exposed. The media has already exposed itself for what it is ,an extension of the DNC or Democrat Party.
    I hope the honest decent democrat voters wise up and vote for President Trump knowing they have been lied to by their party for years now. The truth of the Matter is ,Trump is the only candidate who has the best interest of this country and all of us. Brennan ,Clapper and Comey would be a good start and then go to the second and third layers.


    • Issy says:

      Perp walks, how about 5:00 am swat raids? Did you hear the judge is sending Roger Stone to prison in two weeks? Meanwhile, the prisons are being emptied of real criminals.


  32. bonkti says:

    Has it been established who Source #2, the person who Papadopolous recognized was trying t o set him up, is? Has Papadopoulos identified him? He makes casual reference to him in the transcript with CHS #1 the other day but, of course, the transcript replaces the name.


  33. keithinmissouri says:

    Two questions:
    1. Looking at the timing of Steele’s actions, did his agreement with Fusion GPS include a bonus for front-page allegations prior to the 2016 election?
    2. If The Hag had won the election, in light of the linked quote, would Donald Trump be in prision right now?


  34. Perot Conservative says:

    The Hill & Washington Post came out with their narrative about the recent declassifications – almost 48 hours after the blockbuster revelations. Their spin?

    – it’s a partisan GOP issue
    – declass is about Russian disinformation
    – lumping in extraneous issues – like 5 paragraphs on Barr being allegedly biased
    – about 2 paragraphs on a pause in the Biden Crime Family affairs

    I’m not into the weeds on this recent declass do can’t quickly debunk it, but I’d like to.

    Does the WashIngton Post sing a similar tune?

    The Hill: Republicans plow ahead with Russia origins probe


  35. goldvalkyrie says:

    Amazing, time consuming job to get all this data and analysis put together for your readers; the analysis is excellent and helps me to understand the scope and labyrinth. I am working on a Mind Map so I can visualize. I am optimistic related to Barr, Grenell and Durham. Regarding these newly declassified documents, there are so many false flags, that without CTH, I would not know which end is up — the national media no longer covers this story. it is difficult to get to the true “motive,” but “protect” Obama and “cover” for Clinton, per sundance, is exactly the motive(s). I do agree that PDJT is now the master of the chess board and checkmate is coming. Americas on both sides should be frightened as hell that this could happen to a presidential candidate republican or democrat,. If Barr and Durham fail, Rome will fall.


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  37. G Michael says:

    Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

    H. L. Mencken


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