April 9th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1176

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1,108 Responses to April 9th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1176

  1. Charles Darwin says:

    So many PSA commercials running on TV now ending with “We are all in this Together”. What a bunch of CRAP! Those who have lost their jobs, those losing the businesses they’ve invested their lives in to build, those having career aspirations destroyed because whole industries may not come out the back end of this are in it DEEPER than those on paid vacation sitting at home. the Main Street – Wall Street divide was shrinking but it will be an order or magnitude larger when this shut down finally ends.

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    • ltravisjr says:

      Yeah they say “we’re all in this together” as they force everyone apart. Smh

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    • thetrain2016 says:

      What about the dead, relatives of dead, people in hospitals, some dying?

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      • L4grasshopper says:

        Yeah…what ABOUT the 40,000 dead seasonal flu victims and their families?

        Or the 40,000 dead and hundreds of thousands maimed by car accidents?

        Sink the economy because of those deaths?

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        • Remember in November

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        • MR52 says:

          You realize that the US looses 2.8 M annually. That is 5300 per week for all causes.

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        • ibobland08 says:

          I don’t propose shutting the entire economy down, but what do you think would happen if we just let the Wuhan virus run wild?

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          • booger71 says:

            We probably would have 61K in deaths and none of hospitals wouldn’t be anymore over run than a bad flu season.

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            • JCM800 says:

              Thanks booger.

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            • ibobland08 says:

              And that’s based on what? We are expected to have that amount of deaths with all of these mitigation efforts. That’ pretty hard to believe it would be the same with no mitigation efforts (or the same we use as the flu).

              The Wuhan virus isn’t as widespread as the flu, due to mitigation and the fact it’s only been here for two months. But it would get there if we allowed it. Also while we don’t know the true mortality rate or the true hospitalization rate both are expected to be higher. Much higher in the case of the hospitalization rate.

              Also while there are major economic costs to shutting things down, there is also an economic costs for letting people get sick. This virus seems to cause people to get sick for about two weeks for mild cases. That’s quite a long time. The flu usually puts people out for about half that time and there are antivirals that work pretty well.

              I think it’s worth considering just letting the virus run wild, but I think the costs would be much higher than a seasonal flu. It would probably more like the 1957 flu, which was pandemic.

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        • thetrain2016 says:

          Another Democrat…

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      • lackawaxen123 says:

        so I have to suffer a job loss to make them feel better ?

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      • lackawaxen123 says:

        I’ll send them flowers and my condolences …

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      • Garavaglia says:

        Yes. The flu is killing tens of thousands as I type.

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        • lackawaxen123 says:

          in Jan and Feb it was globally … whats your point ? you take an entire week to type a comment ?

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        • thetrain2016 says:

          This is not flu. Flu shots help to protect you, but your immune system is the only defense against the Chinese Virus.

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        • lackawaxen123 says:

          you see, we would love to discuss the situation with panicked people like you but its hard because you can’t seem to not exaggerate or outright lie to try to shame us into not debating …
          yes covid did kill over 40,000 the week of 1-8 April … globally …
          are you saying that it will continue to kill 40,000 a week for months to come ?
          or just the next week ?

          you can be as snarky as you want but 20 million people lost their jobs in the last 3 weeks and in the real world (not models) that is going to kill alot of people …
          and not thru an act of God or nature like covid but from men like you making a decision that leads to that …

          Some people want to question that decision … in your panic you obviously don’t …
          not sure why not, maybe you still have a job so it doesn’t affect you personally, JUST LIKE 15,000 Americas dead from covid didn’t affect you personally …
          spare us your one way virtue signaling “concern for your fellow man” nonsense … you just don’t care …

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Those are not the only medically oriented commercials running.

      The ambulance chasing lawyers are offering, at an increased volume, to sue the pants off allot doctors, hospitals, medical supply companies and governments for medical reasons on behalf of the living, dying and dead patients.

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    • albertus magnus says:

      I totally disagree. I sense a real sense of community and kindness that is widespread throughout our community. I guess it depends on what we, personally, bring to the table.

      And this stimulus package that passed was the most Main Street focused government stimulus plan EVER put out, regardless of what our own opinion on the need for the package may be…thanks to PDJT.

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    • Rah says:

      Sitting here in Pottstown, PA. Now 1 hour after my appointment time to pickup and they still aren’t ready for me.

      Just talked to another driver from the company I drive for. They have laid off 500 drivers and about 1/2 the dispatchers.

      Thankful I’m still driving. Thankful I’m a salary driver. Thankful that I’m in the top 100 in driver seniority.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Governmental employees – federal at the very least – are chilling the hell out on an extended paid leave.

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      • KnowSERENoFear says:

        AND federal contractors. The MIC is unscathed.

        I’m one. Work for very large contractor…no kidding…management sent out an email saying that we’ll be fired if we go into work…set up monitors (snitches) at work sites called “facility captains.”

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    • boogywstew says:

      I was trying to climb out of a hole when this Covid 19 hoax started. I ended January and began February with, in retrospect, what could have been Covid 19. I am a self employed flooring installer and I have not had any income in a month. I don’t get any public assistance or charity and now I have accumulated even more debt. In my circle of friends and relatives, ALL of them are still being paid. ALL of them. This is all happening so the left can use it to destroy my President. I am being punished for electing President Trump. Still worth it though. I’d rather be homeless, and I will be shortly, than have Hillary as POTUS.

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      • KnowSERENoFear says:

        Sorry to hear…REALLY SORRY….seriously…with anonymity and all, I don’t know where your at…but if I could I would hire you in a heartbeat to floor something…or give you a “gift”…Patriots got to look after one another.

        Treepers…Sundance…Ad rem…is there a way to create a fund for folks like Boogywstew?

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        • boogywstew says:

          I can work my way out of this and I can sleep in my van. I just want people to know that for some of us, through no fault of our own, this is where hatred of President Trump has led. There will be many like me, mostly self employed folks. I will not starve but the humiliation is almost unbearable. I won’t take charity but that doesn’t change the Blessings you should reap from having such a generous heart. Sundance has asked a few times for updates so … here you go.

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      • WSB says:

        Did you apply for PPP?

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      • Sharon says:

        Boogywstew 👍 Yes better than Hillary or any other demonrats as President! America will prosper seven fold ! Give it time! God Bless You !

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      • Cobra227 says:

        In the same boat Boggy. Exactly! As a Remodeler in NY I was “labeled” (how devestating)) non essential. NO SOUP FOR ME!!!
        I immediately grabbed a coloring book, a teddy and headed for a safe space and wont be coming out until the all’s clear siren sounds!!!! /s
        But we’ll do what us nailbangers in good ole US of A always do Boggy…. we’ll get back at it kickin ass and takin names.
        Peace and blessings brother as we try to make it through.
        Like psalm 37 says…. I’ve never seen a righteous man go hungry or his children begging for food”.

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    • Michelle says:

      The “we’re in this together” statement on the news station commercials just really strikes me as disingenuous. It doesn’t seem to come from the heart at all.

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    • Strangely Accurate says:

      Fair point Mr. Darwin. In Chicago, early in the week the Mayor and Governor were all about “all in this together” yet by Tuesday, their whole emphasis was on the devastation in certain communities and how we should all be outraged by their particular demise. And I thought…”so much for all in this together”.

      The narrative now by the blue cities and states is a pretext to filch as much money out of the Federal Phase 4 rescue package as they can to then direct to those particularly hard hit.

      They want the money… liberals are so easy to read.

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      • mostlyogauge says:

        21 people were shot and 7 killed in Chicago this past Tuesday. I have to wonder what “all in this together” really means for them.

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        • Strangely Accurate says:

          All in this together for the Mayor and Governor is a pretext to funnel even more money into disadvantaged neighborhoods. For as long as I can remember, their solution to solving societal problems always starts with “If only we had more money”.

          The two of them have been on MSNBC and PBS setting the table for their cash grab.

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        • MustangBlues says:

          ”’mostlyogauge says:
          April 9, 2020 at 11:04am
          21 people were shot and 7 killed in Chicago this past Tuesday. I have to wonder what “all in this together” really means for them.”’

          ”Togetherness”” It means that the deaths will be coded as Covid–19 death statistics, and the hospitalizations for the wounded as Covid–19 hospitalizations. All traffic fatalities, and abortions will be coded as Covid-19 fatalities. Communist democrats know who to work the system for Cloward–Piven to murder the USA.

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    • Patriot1783 says:

      Tell that to those families who lost loved ones due to democrat governors holding the meds back.

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    • LKAinLA says:

      How about the commercials (State Farm) that call this situation the “new normal.” They scare me. I write a note to the White House everytime I see one. Those crooks knew this was coming and had them all ready to air on TV.

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    • Sharon says:

      Charles our President brought back the jobs and he will do it again! Have Faith! Better yet have Faith in God! Today is Passover and Easter weekend! Don’t be like the whining complaining people that the Israelites were when Moses freed them and was taking them to the promised land! Pray not whine and be thankful! We must repent! All of us!

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        Sharon – Your last 3 sentences are absolutely spot-on. However, while I like what you wrote before that, the fact is that we are to pray for God’s will, not our will to be done. And given that we don’t know what God’s plans are for America at this time and we also know that America has failed miserably in turning to God as He commands, we may be at the point or near the point where He chooses to remove His hand of blessing from us. II Chronicles 7:14 says that God will heal our land if we turn from our sin and wicked ways and live for Him. God went ahead and did His part in that promise when He gave us President Trump and our land started to heal. But America has not repented of its sin and followed Him, which is the part we are supposed to do for Him to continue blessing us. Since we have not done our part, and God will not wait forever for us to respond, maybe we’re about at the point where He is going to pull His blessings from us.

        We are to pray for His will, not ours. We need to pray for America to turn to Him and quit focusing on ourselves. While I’d love to see America bounce back and continue to do well, we have to be ready for that to change because the American people have chosen to live the way they live. The Apostle Paul said that whether he had a lot or a little, he learned to be content and trust God. We need to learn the same lesson.

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    • vikingmom says:

      Great point! Everyone I know who is sanctimoniously sitting at home saying, “we have to do whatever is necessary to save lives” are also the ones who have guaranteed income and benefits and may be inconvenienced by this but are not having their lives turned upside down!

      I am reminded of Ronald Reagan’s great quote that everyone who was in favor of abortion had already been born! It’s very easy to take a stand on something when it doesn’t personally affect you!

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      • boogywstew says:

        There’s a conundrum for me. I feel for all the right and correct reasons that this handling of the Covid19 is a hoax. Every single person I personally know is either on a paid leave, vacation if you will, working from home and enjoying it or doesn’t have to work and has a steady income. They are all of the same mindset. Caution is needed! We just might need one more month … or two, just to be safe. They see me as the selfish one. I don’t care for anyone’s safety!

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        • vikingmom says:

          This situation has taught me A LOT about my family and friends and how they think…some of it has been really encouraging but much of it has been been very surprising, and even disquieting.

          Having been a student of history my whole life, I have always wondered about the numbers of people who willingly gave up their freedoms, their rights, their common sense even, all for a desire to stay “safe” or to get the approval of those “in power”. Now I am seeing it play out in real time and aside from being shocked, I am somewhat fascinated as how quickly people are just accepting everything and doing what they are told, no questions asked!!

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          • boogywstew says:

            I share your love of history. What’s the old addage … “Those without a knowledge of history are destined to repeat it.” How many schools have stopped teaching American History?

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            • GB Bari says:

              Almost all public schools stopped teaching ACCURATE American history several decades ago. They’ve been filling those young skulls full of Leftwing anti-Christian, multicultural propaganda ever since.

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        • vikingmom says:

          boogywstew – I also grew up with a dad who was a commissioned salesman and I still remember that stress and uncertainty when the economy wasn’t doing as well and he wasn’t bring in enough money to pay the bills. My parents tried very hard to maintain a positive front but, even as a child, I knew when things were not good financially, so I very much have a heart for those who are really struggling right now!!

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          • boogywstew says:

            Strange? I grew up in a cop’s family where there was always economic security. I took sole custody of 2 children and never received one penny in child support. My ex smoked my butt permanently with the IRS by not paying our taxes and I had a Sophie’s Choice moment of paying back and current taxes or keeping everything so I could afford to keep my children with me and away from physical abuse. It would make a great movie … seriously!

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            • vikingmom says:

              Actually, my oldest son got his BA in History, with an emphasis on WWII…and he is now a cop!! His background gives him a very unique perspective on everything that is happening right now and we have had long talks about the parallels between past and present events.

              He like to say that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it while those who DO know history are doomed to bang their head against the wall trying to explain it to everyone else!!

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        • lackawaxen123 says:

          they are virtue signaling off of other peoples misery … they are not good people …

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    • amjean says:

      Its about the “feelings” don’t you know; instead of common sense.

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      • lackawaxen123 says:

        its vitrue signaling writ large … someone is suffering and I FEEL THEIR PAIN and demand that the government make everyone feel some sort of pain …

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  2. Ausonius says:

    The Austrians are re-opening their economy partially on the 14th! An article by Barbara Kolm, a Friedrich Hayek-Conservative who is also Vice-President of the Austrian National Bank:

    …preliminary results from testing a random sample of Austrians suggest that only 1% of the population has been infected by the virus. “All ideas of ‘herd immunity’ have been clearly refuted by this sample,” Mr. Kurz (Chancellor of Austria) said. That leaves the government pursuing a “containment” strategy, which requires tight border controls.

    “… the virus isn’t the only thing that grows at an exponential rate. Using data from the Austrian Institute for SME Research, I estimate that 30% of Austria’s small shops will have gone out of business by May 2, when they are supposed to reopen. The economic pain increases over time. For every additional day of lockdown, the damage grows exponentially.

    (My emphasis above)

    See:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/austria-will-start-to-reopen-next-week-11586386670

    Has anyone heard of similar disastrous results for America? The president is optimistic, and surely we all want to be optimistic. Perhaps our massive $2,200,000,000,000 aid package will help preserve small and large businesses, and not be frittered away by corruption into oblivion, like MAObama’s $800 billion slush fund for DEM donors, DEM politicians, and bureaucrats.

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    • BuckNutGuy says:

      The aid package was designed to keep SMEs (small and medium size enterprises) from firing employees as the loans are forgiven based upon keeping payrolls filled over time.

      Yet even with this design, we have seen unemployment spike by nearly 17MM people. So either the package wasn’t designed correctly or the shutdown is causing lasting economic pain. You be the judge.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Aid package took care of the human (employee) side of those businesses. But was not designed to handle the equally important capital and actual missing business flow elements. Note that part of the capital end is RENT, UTILITIES and TAXES. There are allot municipalities, states and landlords still demanding payment.

        Have heard and seen, locally, too many friends who have small businesses get locked out of building with their equipment inside and still receiving bills for taxes and utilities. When and if they reopen there may be No road to viable profitability.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          The only remedy is to reopen now to allow some sort of reconciliation of outstanding bills and start up of cash flow from buying customers that allow these small businesses to operate profitably, if the flood of unemployment due to shattered small businesses is not to continue.

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        • BuckNutGuy says:

          Doc,
          I also know a lot of small business owners and am one myself. The challenging part is that many of them have pulled lost of money out of their companies to fund discretionary purchases over the past decade like: boats, cars, fancy vacations, etc. I NEVER begrudge anyone making as much money as possible. This is America after all. For those companies, I lack sympathy that they cannot meet their fixed cost requirements for a two month period. Thats poor capital planning on their part and something I should NOT have to bailout. The challenge is knowing the difference between prudent and reckless operators.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Firstly, the Payroll Protection Plan includes $ for rent, utilities, etc. It obviously makes little sense to pay employers, to pay employees. in order to ‘retain them’, if there is no building to return to.

          It includes provisions for self employed, S-corp filers, and 1099 filers.

          Is it perfect? No.
          Are there people who, due to their individual circumstances, will ‘fall thru the cracks’? Certainly, in ANY policy decision, there are,’winners and losers’.
          However, it IS a well thought out plan, which addresses (big picture) these concerns.

          Secondly, on “lost business”; I suggest this business is NOT lost, but many are thinking that, because they are judging on the past, and not recognising the truly novel situation we face.
          If a customer, or group of customers either change to one of your competitors, or simply stop purchasing your product or service, or switch to a different kind of product( horse shoers lost business with the development of cars, for example) then you can say you “LOST” that business.
          That is NOT the case here.

          Broadly, you AND ALL YOUR COMPETITORS shut down, and no one, none of the customer base, were purchasing your products/services for say,..2 months.

          Once the ‘all clear’ is given, however it is done, those 2 months ‘worth’ of customers will be clamoring for your products/services.

          However, there will ALSO be those customers that, HAD THERE BEEN NO SHUTDOWN, in the normal coarse of events, would be buying your products/services, during Jun, July, August.

          So, its easy to see how the ‘non-essential’ businesses, the SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, that were shut down are going to be SWAMPED with more business than they can handle.
          Once the all clear happens, 2 months worth of people wanting beauty shop services, all calling to book appointments, again on top of the regular business.
          2 months ‘backlog’ of people wanting flooring installed (postponed because of the shutdown) piled on top of the ‘normal’ business.
          As examples. Consumer driven economic engine, remember.
          And, consumers WILL have $ to spend. Firstly, those in essential businesses have been working overtime to fill demand, AND will get their $1200, ‘on top’ of that.
          Workers in ‘non- essential’ also recieve $1200 per, plus either ‘enhanced’ unemployment, or worker retention pay.
          And yet, they have (largely) not spent much, sitting at home, focusing on stockpiling toilet paper.

          So, I would suggest all who can focus on applying for these PPP Loan/grants, using the $ as intended, while preparing for the ‘all clear’, and having more demand for your products/services, than you and your competitors can possibly supply.

          And, it could take as much as a year or more to ‘fill’ the hole created. Unless your sector can substantially increase your productive capacity, the hole, or demand remains.
          IMHO,
          ..

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      • jimrockfish says:

        I checked out the Paycheck Protection Program and it wasn’t for me. I’m a sole proprietor and don’t have the payroll records they require. Although the application seemed pretty simple for any businesses that have their payroll records.

        But I checked again on Monday and both my banks (Wells Fargo & Compass) had stopped taking applications. This was after just starting on Friday. They had already gone through their allotted money. So the program may not be funded enough to help every business that needs it if they ran out that fast.

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      • Bill says:

        Business have yet to receive the funding to retain employees. My bank has been overwhelmed with applications.

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        • BuckNutGuy says:

          Bill,
          Not all. I am aware of a couple that have, but, yes, its not been an immediate process generally.

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        • Dizzylizzy says:

          We are small business owners. We work through a small bank. We had our application processed and ready to roll, but funding has run out. I have called the senators in my state and it is my understanding a vote will take place today or over the weekend to provide more funding for the PPP program. However, my senators office said the Democrats are going to stall it and hold it up with their political games and pork. Would appreciate anybody else in this situation to contact their senators encouraging them not to play power games now. We need immediate assistance to keep our employees and our businesses running. Never asked for a thing from government. Paid taxes, worked hard, it really really really makes me crazy that they keep their salaries, insurance. They are insulated from the world we provide for them.

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          • Nick the Deplorable says:

            McConnel failed to get the additional 250 billion the dems blocked it a few minutes ago.
            Only 100 billion of the 350 billion has been used so far so funding has not run out yet.

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          • Ken Lawson says:

            Dizzlylizzy – If Nick is correct that there is still money available, then your bank is wrong (obviously), but you should contact your senator’s office and tell them what’s happening. Maybe they can get involved or direct you as to how to get the bank straightened out. The new funding that McConnell is fighting for will be a political football for a while, and no one knows how long that will be. But if there’s still money there and the bank is uninformed or just being difficult, then try to get your senator, or even your representative, involved to help you.

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            • Dizzylizzy says:

              Thanks! On it now!!

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            • Dizzylizzy says:

              Called senators office again. Everyone is confused. He is going to check with the economic adviser in his Senator’s office and he’s even offered to call our local community bank. From what he said and believes there is money still available. Thanks for pushing me in the right direction. The senate did just vote down the bill for more money. Don’t know if any republicans crossed over. Can’t they pass without Dems help??

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      • amjean says:

        I suspect many just want a vacation. Many people in our country do not want to work and will use any means possible to get out of

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        • lackawaxen123 says:

          sitting at home staring at your 4 walls is not much of a vacation …

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          • boogywstew says:

            What makes you think they’re staring at the walls? Cruising the internet, emailing, watching TV, playing video games, texting, talking on the phone, skyping, having sex, playing board games, reading books, playing with children and pets, cooking a delicious meal, fixing the house, cleaning, sneaking friends over, building models, playing music, listening to music, hobbies etc. Staying at home while receiving money looks good to me.

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        Buck – You’re being short-sighted. The aid package takes time to be implemented. There is no way it could be in peoples’ hands within minutes of this mess starting, but that’s what it would take to avoid many of the problems we are seeing. It wasn’t a failure in the design, it’s just that there are limits to how fast aid can get to those in need. As a result there are going to those businesses that are injured and others that may not survive. It’s not intended, but it’s a fact of life.

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    • annieoakley says:

      It is a disaster.

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  3. Reloader says:

    As I have said before: If I know about massive election FRAUD by demoncrats, and YOU know about massive election Fraud by demoncrats … including all of the methods described in the following article, AND including Voters BUSSED from location to location, AND rigged Electronic Voting machines influenced by G. Soros …

    Then it is certainly true that VSGPDJT also KNOWS about massive election Fraud by demoncrats. America is actually a CONSERVATIVE country. It is NOT half and half Libtard and Conservative. ONLY election fraud makes it look that way.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/vote_fraud_trump_on_the_attack.html

    Trump is going to STOP the election fraud … apparently.

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    • Reserved55 says:

      I think he only got eight states to cooperate in his vote fraud investigation in 2017.
      All the proof you need that it’s widely used by both parties.

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      It may reduce the fraud a bit, but seven months before the most consequential general election in history is not enough time to stop it.

      My guess is that this is just another one of those items the DOJ insiders deliberately chose to slow walk over the last three years, and POTUS has had enough of it.

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    • M. B. Lamar says:

      The time is coming to turn your eyes toward Jesus. He says in Luke 17:37 that where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather. In other words, there are always this sign and that sign that the kingdom is near, but when there are many signs, it’s time to take notice. I don’t know about you, but I am seeing a LOT of vultures.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      Sure.

      But I keep waiting to see this supposed evidence of the bused-in voters.

      Shouldn’t we have time-stamped photos of buses of college kids crossing from Atlanta pulling up to voting booths in Talladega? Or Auburn?

      People were swearing that they knew this would be or has beeen going on: bused voters from Atlanta area to Alabama. Folks, there are two main routes from Atlanta to Alabama.

      “Everybody” knows this is going on, but nobody has done a stake-out at the state line ,and followed the supposed phalanx of buses for the short trip to an Alabama voting location that is reasonably large enough to not have a bus of college kids stick out like a sore thumb.

      Or, someon at the Opelika polling place puzzles over a busload of these kids, and follows the bus as it leaves the polling place.

      Where are the pictures of these buses?

      “Urban myth.” Until someone posts pics.

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      • Dutchman says:

        You don’t HAVE to bus voters across State lines. State has two districts. One is ‘reliably blue’, always votes majority dem.
        But, neighboring district is ‘purple’ or even just barely red.

        Have Dem voters cross the often arbitrary ‘border’, and vote in the red or purple district.

        Their blue ‘home’ district STILL goes blue, but they have ‘swung’the red or purple district.

        These people have got six ways from Sunday, to rig elections; its what they DO, while the rest of us are focused on other things.

        On the other hand, every four years, the same gang comes into town, on the same day, and robs the same bank.

        Been doing it for 100 years, its ‘generational’. How hard can it really be, to gather the evidence and bust them?

        Nationwide busts, of Democrat operatives; local, county and State operatives and ‘officers’of the Dem party, engaging in organised and systemic voter fraud, would put a stake in the cold, blackened and shriveled heart of the party.

        Shouldn’t be THAT hard to do!

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  4. spoogels says:

    DOD LEAK: Feds Investigated Birx & CDC Director for “Scientific Fraud & Misconduct”; Fabricated, Falsified HIV/AIDS Vaccine Trials

    https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/

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  5. wtd says:

    Considering yesterday’s threat made by WHO

    Given what we’ve learned about the Chinese Communist Party over the past few months, would you trust a Chinese-made facemask that’s been earmarked for export to the west?
    It wouldn’t surprise me if the People’s Liberation Army made them like typhoid blankets.

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    • FH says:

      “Stop pointing fingers…” at the people who, absent any and all due diligence, repeated the CCP’s false assertion that the Wuhan Plague wasn’t contagious.

      No high-ranking, convicted war criminal of the NSDAP was ever so detached from reality.

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  6. Reserved55 says:

    This has been posted here before, but for those who may have missed it give it a listen.

    Wuhan Virus a bioweapon. 55 minutes

    Liked by 3 people

  7. spoogels says:

    Fmr U.S. Ambassador to Japan Hagerty: China Handling of Coronavirus ‘Crime of the Century’ — ‘Greatest Cover-Up in Human History’

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/04/03/fmr-u-s-ambassador-to-japan-hagerty-china-handling-of-coronavirus-crime-of-the-century-greatest-cover-up-in-human-history/

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  8. Hydroxychlorquine Civil Rights and the New Medical Jim Crow
    Our Health Is Not Property Of The State

    Of all the Civil Rights violations committed by governments in this sad chapter, perhaps the worst is politicians inserting themselves between patients and doctors to deny sick people legal and approved medication, especially for purely political motives. President Trump is not practicing medicine–by inserting themselves there, they are. Denying sick people legal medications is a huge Civil Rights violation–if not attempted murder.

    Where is the DOJ’s much-vaunted Civil Rights Division? Not being killed by your own local government is pretty much Civil Right #1. Black people need Hydroxychloroquine, too. We know that black people are disproportionally at risk.

    Is that the “Disparate Impact” you folks need to get off your asses and start protecting ALL AMERICANS?

    Where the hell is Bill Barr? Put down the bagpipes, Bill, and pretend its Roger Stone doing it. So far, you have flunked out when it comes to prosecuting rogue FBI/CIA Democrats to protect Americans’ Electoral Civil Rights.

    Will you fail to protect the Medical Civil Rights of Americans, too?

    Gov. Cuomo’s not the only one–although his brother Chris is using the federally-supplied pills without being hospitalized. “It’s Different When We Do It(tm)!”, they explained.

    It was kind of funny when Chris Cuomo was drag-racing his shiny blue muscle car on the streets while preaching mandatory Global Warming restrictions for you. But now he is receiving life-or-death treatment at home that his brother the governor is denying to other citizens.

    This denies Jefferson’s “palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God.” There is nothing inside of me that wishes to deny Chris Cuomo the medicine he needs. Yet there is some thing inside Gov. Andrew Cuomo that wishes to deny that medicine to others.

    What is that thing?

    Governor Sisolak of Nevada has also banned doctors’ offices from helping their patients. Only those sick enough for hospitalization deserve this treatment they decree. Nevermind that the drug might prevent the need for hospitalization in the first place.

    Some Health Depts., Pharmacy Boards and Hospital officials have also chosen to insert themselves between a patient and his doctor. They are the ones who need treatment–for Trump Derangement Syndrome. President Trump is for it–so they’re against it. Period. That’s sick. And Power-Mad.

    Can you imagine if they tried to stop AIDS patients from getting approved anti-viral drugs? We would strip them of their positions, put them in leg-irons and close their hospitals.

    And what of Elderly Americans like Dr. Mark Siegel’s 96 year-old father who could barely get off the couch and felt himself slipping away until his doctor prescribed Hydroxychloroquine? The three-drug cocktail is all pills, so the elderly can take them at home without hospitalization or needles, a huge advantage.

    The last time local Democrat governments tried to neglect, harm and even kill their second-class citizens in order to cling to their own political power, it was called “Jim Crow”.

    Denying these patients their most basic Right is the New Medical Jim Crow Law.

    This is wrong. It is illegal. It is deadly.

    And IT HAS TO STOP.

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      The Governor of any State does not have any authority to dictate what medical treatments can or can’t be given, nor to threaten to revoke nor to revoke any medical license.

      The only question – “but can people be convinced that he does?”

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    • Reserved55 says:

      Dr Zelenko with Jerome Corsi. Hydroxychloroquine cocktail.

      59 minutes

      Liked by 3 people

      • jeans2nd says:

        Good grief, is Corsi still doing that Q “decode” nonsense? smh

        Have you put up Rudy G’s interview with Dr Zelenko?
        It is good, and Rudy G has a bunches more credibility than Corsi. imo
        Rudy G’s vid yesterday was with the guy doing plasma for CCP Virus patients.

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    • Shelley Childs says:

      It’s pretty clear that Hydroxychloroquine caught the opposition off guard. This virus was supposed to turn us into a frightened welfare state once and for all, and people getting well without the intervention of the elite was not a part of the plan.

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    • wtd says:

      The Gipper Lives said:

      “Hydroxychlorquine Civil Rights and the New Medical Jim Crow…”

      CDC website drops guidance, anecdotal data on Trump-backed hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 treatment

      The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has abruptly switched its guidance for use of a drug touted by President Donald Trump as a possible treatment for COVID-19, dropping its reference to anecdotal dosages to say simply that there are no approved drugs for dealing with the disease.

      The CDC’s online advice for hydroxychloroquine was updated April 7, three days after Reuters reported that the CDC was offering what the news agency called “highly unusual guidance” for the drug’s use based on “unattributed anecdotes rather than peer-reviewed science.”

      The updated, and shortened, guidance says simply that “hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are under investigation in clinical trials” for use on coronavirus patients and “there are no drugs or other therapeutics approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19.”

      The CDC originally told Reuters that the earlier guidance was crafted for doctors at the request of a White House coronavirus task force, which had urged prompt action.

      The CDC did not immediately respond to USA TODAY’s queries about the revised guidance.

      Go read the entire thing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/08/coronavirus-cdc-removes-guidance-hydroxychloroquine-treatment/2967852001/
      (hat tip: Ibloga.blogspot.com)

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  9. sunnyflower5 says:

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  10. repsort says:

    Wall St. is getting FAT!!! Stawks are ripping higher on a massive job loss report.
    Main St. gets to go bankrupt and beg for gov’t hand outs.

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  11. From Breitbart:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/08/donald-trump-what-does-barack-obama-know-about-joe-biden-that-is-preventing-endorsement/

    What does Obama know?

    LOL

    He knows Biden is a blithering idiot who only made it this far because he’s never been an ultimate decision – making responsibility-taker. God help us is this idiot manages to be elected President. He will screw EVERYTHING up.

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  12. Hans says:

    Fox local station streaming caption on bottom of the screen
    staring to indoctrinate public on new impeachment narrative..
    priming the pump for Pelosi and Schiff

    IC; notified the government in NOVEMBER of virus risk……..

    That’s right.. getting ready to start the blood on his hands narrative,,, another narrative that is impossible to verify…

    So disappointed in Fox.. Fox also pushed mail in voting yesterday….

    Liked by 3 people

    • Publius2016 says:

      everyday threat assessments are made regarding BioWeapons…

      45 closed border in January…Dimms voted on SHAMPEACHMENT in February…nuff said

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    • JRD says:

      “IC; notified the government in NOVEMBER of virus risk”
      FACT: But, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS was too obsessed with impeachment hoax to care about the welfare of the American people. He should be relieved of his office for dereliction of duty.

      Actions have consequences.

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      • Hans says:

        You mean like all the FISA warrants that had no Woods file or incomplete woods file… that part of the intelligence community..

        The same community that sent Confidential Human sources to entrap Page and Papadopolous

        What makes you believe that there is any truth that comes out of MSM,,,

        Were the ones with SHIT-FOR-BRAINS IF WE BELIEVE THIS CRAP.

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    • TPW says:

      I will be disappointed in us if at some point we don’t say enough..

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  13. mikgen says:

    The third paper from dr Raoult on HCQ/AZ treatment of patients with COVID-19.
    NB: No cardiac toxocity observed in any of the 1061 patients.

    Click to access ABSTRACT-v-2-GB.pdf

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Where’s the link please?

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    • QuiAudetVincit says:

      That’s very good, but the document isn’t displaying for me. Do you have a link?

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      • Mikgen says:

        Sorry , WordPress played up again. I posted the link but the abstract was displayed. I am away from my computer now. Will be back in an hour and will post the link. 🙂

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      • Mikgen says:

        Abstract: *https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ABSTRACT-v-2-GB.pdf

        Table: *https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Table_final_website_IHU_09_04_2020.pdf

        Remove stars before url:s.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Lupus patients have been taking HCQ for years. Ma Soeur was on Plaquenil (brand-name HCQ) for years until she passed.
      And everyone knows lupus patients, of all people, will react badly to anything that is not helping their bodies.
      This “cardiac toxicity” is nonsense.

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    • Musicphile says:

      Hello mikgen, I couldn’t find a link to Dr. Raoult’s 3rd paper that you refer to, based on my internet search. Kindly let us know how/where you got this abstract from. Much appreciated. Thank you.

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      • Mikgen says:

        The links -as they can be displayed on WordPress – are posted just above your post. The institute where dr Raoult is working is now pre-posting all papers concernef with COVID-19. Link below.

        *https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/pre-prints-ihu/

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  14. Charles Darwin says:

    “F” the medical experts. Trump administration is held hostage by medical “experts” who have been proven wrong on everything…

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  15. Eaglet says:

    U.S. Attorney General William Barr identified China as the biggest threat to the United States and said they’re “engaged in a full-court blitzkrieg” to steal our technology, during an interview Wednesday with Fox News host Laura Ingraham.

    “China is a very serious threat to the United States, geopolitically, economically, militarily, and a threat to the integrity of our institutions given their ability to influence things,” Barr said.

    Further, Barr said the Department of Justice is trying to “tighten up” on American universities and businesses working with China.

    He added, “A number of universities are working closely with the government to understand what the nature of the threat is, but it’s not just universities. Universities are part of the problem, but a lot of American business is just for short-term profit or what they see as a short term profit. They know over the long run it’s not going to be long term benefit to their business.”

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    • lolli says:

      Well, Bill if you were serious, I think you might start in DC with all the China owned politicians who have been selling out our country.
      Oh ya, they are all exempt.
      Many “invisible” enemies, it seems, to me.

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    • bacillus says:

      Barr is getting close. We need to enforce an open-ended moratorium on placement of Chinese nationals into any STEM-related activity in the US, and kick those who are here OUT immediately. That includes a moratorium on accepting any future students, researchers, consultants, etc. into universities and tech industries. Plus, Chinese money for those activities has to be cut off permanently.

      But the other part of the equation is a mass movement to boycott all Chinese manufactured goods sold here, which should be a populist movement that is uncontrollable by the globalist evil-doers. Of course, it would have to be reasoned out in a way not to hurt our own businesses, but once our businesses get the message, they would adapt. One problem to overcome with this for the consumer is actually identifying a good manufactured in China because when you look, the label often obscures the origin of those parts. But, if all can be overcome – or even largely overcome – this is a powerful way for every citizen to kick the globalists and their CCP proxy right in the teeth for knowingly perpetrating this COVID (and everything else) on us.

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  16. spoogels says:

    Up to 150 members of the Saudi royal family ‘are infected with coronavirus’: King Salman and Mohammed bin Salman ‘have both gone into isolation to avoid the outbreak

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8204099/Up-150-members-Saudi-royal-family-infected-coronavirus.html

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  17. Shqron says:

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  18. Deplorable Ukie says:

    Today’s op-eds at the Russian version of Chinese propaganda RT.com gaslight its readers.

    ‘Oil price war came at the worst possible time, and a truce between Moscow and Riyadh can’t come too soon’ by a Serbian-American journalist.

    ‘Oil price war came at the worst possible time’. Why did it come now? Author doesn’t ask this question.

    According to the op-ed, there are 3 players: Saudi Arabia, USA and Russia.
    The author ignores the elephant in the room, China.

    He does mention China but only in the context of President Trump’s statements. First, Trump said that China has “taken advantage” of the US for far too long. Second, Trump is blaming ‘China for the virus – and his rhetoric is a handy preview of the rage he might unleash on Riyadh if he were ever to decide his ally back-stabbed America using the pandemic as cover.’

    Rage? Clearly, the author is not friendly to the President. He ‘forgets’ about Beijing but speculates about Trump’s attitude to Riyadh.

    Here is what the op-ed author has ignored.

    On February 22, 2019, Reuters reported:
    ‘Saudi Arabia signed 35 economic cooperation agreements with China worth a total of $28 billion at a joint investment forum during the visit, Saudi state news agency SPA said.’
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asia-saudi-china-idUSKCN1QB15H

    ‘However, the newly energized relationships between China, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf nations may signal a considerable realignment’
    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2019-08-23/saudi-arabia-longtime-us-ally-builds-ties-with-china

    The author ‘forgets’ China but brings up Russophobia. Diana West in American Betrayal tells the real story about the fake Russophobia.

    ‘A truce between Moscow and Riyadh can’t come too soon,’ says the article title. Truly?

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  19. Bad stuff doesn’t just happen by accident, never buy into this BS. Bad stuff is engineered. Below is a copy of some very good questions that we should be asking.

    1. How come Event 201, wherein globalists met to simulate a corona virus pandemic in NYC just six weeks prior to the actual pandemic, had the likes of Bill Gates and media representatives discussing how to control a world narrative by circumventing the sovereignty of our States using covert and stealth means? Is this what you’d expect them to be doing when simulating a worldwide pandemic?

    2. How come WHO and China both stated up until Feb. 3 that the corona virus was not transmitted human-to-human and was not a problem, and then berated Trump for his travel bans with accusations that he overreacted?

    3. How come the mayor of NYC, even after Trump’s travel ban, encouraged his constituents to celebrate Chinese New Years in the city streets in late Feb?

    4. How come Pelosi went on live TV and told her constituents to come to Chinatown in late Feb?

    5. Why did both Dr. Fauci and the WHO Director both applaud China for how they handled the virus?

    6. Why is the CDC allowed to own vaccine patents? Isn’t that a conflict of interests?

    7. Why was funding for a corona virus dropped, according to Dr. Peter Hotez and other vaccine scientists, who argue that SARS, and the Middle East respiratory syndrome, or MERS, of 2012, should have triggered major federal and global investments to develop vaccines in anticipation of future epidemics. Instead, the SARS vaccine that Hotez’s team created in collaboration with scientists at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston is sitting in a freezer, no closer to commercial production than it was four years ago.

    8. How come both Obama and Cuomo did not refill their medical supply coffers after the H1N1 epidemic?

    9. Why have the hospitals been instructed to put Covid-19 as the cause of death even they are not sure or assume it with no proof? This skews all numbers extremely high.

    10. Why did Cuomo say that the stockpile of ventilators found in a NJ warehouse were not yet needed and that’s why they are stored there while also stating that his state needs more ventilators?

    11. Why was the USA shut down with only 48 deaths at the time? There was no shutdown with larger numbers of H1N1?

    12. Who owns the corona virus patents and do they have any bearing on vaccines being researched now? Who’s funding all the research?

    13. Why was the announcement of the successful testing of hydroxychloroquine made out to be unworthy of value at first? And why did Cuomo and Sisolak (NY and NV) ban it’s use in their States at first when we have the “Right To Try” policy in medicine?

    14. Did Gov Sisolak actually hoard huge amounts of hydroxychloroquine for his inmates as has been rumored by a leak from a company who received his order? Or is this false?

    15. Is it curious to anyone else that, in 2017 when Pirbright Institute in England was applying for its corona vaccine patents, that a married couple who ran the largest manufacturer of hydroxychloroquine were brutally murdered? Is it even furthermore of interest that they had donated medicines to the Clinton Foundation for Haiti and were speaking to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to donate billions to one of their other offshoot foundations? (Barry and Honey Sherman died Dec. 2017 from hanging by their pool)

    16. Who funds Pirbright Institute? Are they connected to globalists?

    17. Who is the largest independent funder for WHO? And what is his role?

    18. Why is Bill Gates and his ID2020 pushing for mandatory vaccines and ID chips for all?

    19. Why are some US politicians pushing for illegal immigrants to receive Covid-19 relief funding when our legal citizens still have not received any stimulus funding and some cannot even get onto the unemployment web site?

    20. Why is there no proof of any bats being sold in the Wuhan market wherein the virus supposedly originated?

    21. What ever happened to the Harvard Professor and the Chinese lieutenant who were arrested in January for lying about their involvement in assisting with virus research in the Wuhan lab?

    22. Why in the world were the Democrats spending so much focus and money on the impeachment trial with the pandemic starting, and why are they starting another attack on our President during the most crucial time of the pandemic?

    23. Has anyone verified the classified ads in a China paper wherein the Wuhan lab was advertising to hire persons to research transmissions of corona virus from bats to humans?

    24. Why are there no current safety tests for vaccines and no financial liability for the vaccine manufacturers if harm done? Why is there a taxpayer-funded account to pay out vaccine damages?

    25. Why is it okay for “my body, my choice” when it comes to abortion but not for the push on forced vaccines?

    26. One last thing to vet: Article written on Wednesday, 06 December 2017
    Bill Gates, Other Elites Inducted Into Communist Chinese Academy

    I have a thousand other questions, and I feel they are all worth valid discussion with logic, facts and respect. If you want to debate or expound on any of the above, that’s wonderful. But, please do so without being rude and by use of vetted source references. Rudeness and unsupported opinions will be deleted. Thank you.

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  20. Charles Darwin says:

    Unfortunately, our government chose POORLY…

    Liked by 5 people

  21. Hans says:

    Nazi Germany/communists take over begins in Tampa… on Local Fox News… streaming banner
    .. call Hillsborough County to report business closure violations… (xxx-xxx-xxxx)
    ..call Hillsborough County to report social distancing….(xxx-xxx-xxxx)

    Oh it starts in little steps…report your neighbor…start the distrust …start the hate…

    Might want to think about your home defense…… the guns will be next… you don’t need them you have the government to protect you….

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    • JCM800 says:

      Nothing is gained by sounding like a Panic Monkey.
      If you want a banana, ask your Zookeeper. : )

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      • amjean says:

        totally unnecessary response – it DOES start in little steps; our civil liberties
        are evaporating daily; just ask the remaining Jews from WWII; I am sure they
        are looking on in horror and remembrance. And that statement
        is not an overreaction either.

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        • Ken Lawson says:

          Youre right amjean. People do not handle power well. Most people given power will become tyrannical on some level. Think about people you’ve worked for in your life. Many just become tyrannical in small things, but some go just plain crazy with it. These people in government (at all levels: city, county, state, federal) will take advantage of the power this situation affords them. They need to be watched carefully. Those who abuse it need to be remember the next time they’re up for reelection.

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          • JCM800 says:

            Some people like to be afraid, Horror Movies make money for a reason.
            Aware is one thing,
            Overreaction is another.
            Enjoy! : )

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  22. bertdilbert says:

    If Trump can get half the jobs lost back before the election he can claim like 8 million jobs created in just a few months time. Probably also the shortest recession in US history.

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  23. rondo123456 says:

    The CDC Confesses to Lying About COVID-19 Death Numbers

    Can any government statistics on COVID-19 deaths be trusted?

    It is an open question now that we are learning that the highly respected, world-class Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has been lying to us.

    This revelation comes a few days after I wrote here at American Thinker that New York City was lying about COVID-19 deaths. The normal rules about reporting deaths have been violated by that city in the rush to inflate the body count, presumably to steer more taxpayer money to the Big Apple.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/the_cdc_confesses_to_lying_about_covid19_death_numbers.html

    Liked by 3 people

    • Mike Robinson says:

      Trillions of dollars are going to fall out of the sky, and the more numbers you have the more you get.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Reserved55 says:

      Watch the video from the AT article

      Liked by 1 person

      • wondering999 says:

        She is a reputable physician with 30 years’ experience, and describes the leeway physicians (and sometimes others) have in reporting “cause of death”. Based on the CDC memo she read, the instructions for how to report Covid deaths are wildly inaccurate, and it’s anybody’s guess how many people have actually died of Covid.

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    • dawg says:

      This whole thing is just completely blowing my mind. I cant even believe what is happening. Sometimes I just stop and think and daze off about how our citizens are being forced to live and the fraud thats causing it. The hysteria preventing people the ability to grasp elementary mathematics. Im just blown away by the current situation. Im consumed by sheer incredulity. Speechless.

      Liked by 2 people

      • lolli says:

        dawg,
        Yep. When they are releasing rapists and murderers, yet arresting a dad playing t ball with his family, and this is in any way acceptable, we are truly being ruled by insanity. (Or satanity, my own word. Lol)

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  24. rondo123456 says:

    The Flu, the Coronavirus, and Hospital Beds

    “Did you hear about the 2017-2018 U.S. flu season? How about the 2017-18 flu season overwhelming the hospitals and creating bed and ICU bed shortages?

    Neither did I, but it was the worst flu season in recent years.

    During the 2017-2018 flu season the CDC’s preliminary estimate is that 810,000 patients were hospitalized. It is still a preliminary estimate, so that the upper range of uncertainty is 1.4 million hospitalizations due to the flu during the 2017-2018 season. That flu season also had the highest peak hospitalizations in recent years.”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/the_flu_the_coronavirus_and_hospital_beds.html

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  25. Sherri Young says:

    AdRem & Sundance:

    Libertarian Rep Thomas Massey (R-KY) is on Glenn Beck right now and making tons of sense. He is talking about far upstream distortions in the food chain. I hope Sundance grabs this and posts it with his evaluation.

    Thanks.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      What knowledge has Massie of the food supply chain? How about Beck?
      Sundance has years and years of first-hand knowledge and experience plus research.
      Be careful to whom you listen.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Massie has cattle. He represents farmer constituents and interacts with them. They bring concerns to him.

        Massie did not mention it, but dairy has a choke between the producers and consumers that controls prices so that the middle man does well but the dairy farmers do not so well.

        One thing Massie did mention was the issue farmers are having getting workers. The farmers don’t qualify for the “forgivable loans” (grants) if they retain regular employees.

        In the case of the oil & gas industry, if the cost of production and transmission exceeds breakeven, production slows or, in specific cases, stops. With farming, crops can be left to rot in the field. With dairy farming, the farmers may find they cannot recognize a gain even on taking their animals to the packing house. In that case, the farmer can merely shoot the cows and use a backhoe to bury the carcasses. Truckers are said to be working full-time and overtime. How is the transportation system supposed to handle a bulge in throughput in farm commodities? If the price of transportation for the farmer rises, that is an additive factor that makes farming for this season economically unfeasible. Massie pointed out that state regulators make it hard for his farmers/ranchers involved in meat production are having to transport animals needlessly long distances.

        Anyway, what Massie had to say should not be discounted without a listen. SD can interpret the elements of the interview any way he deems appropriate.

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        • starfcker says:

          “Massie did not mention it, but dairy has a choke between the producers and consumers that controls prices so that the middle man does well but the dairy farmers do not so well” every industry has that. It’s called the investment banks.

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      • booger71 says:

        Beck does have experience in buying Cheetos.

        Liked by 1 person

    • DesertRain says:

      Thanks for the tip, Sherri! Will look for the replay…

      Liked by 1 person

  26. Bogeyfree says:

    One of the best summations of this massive massive fraud I’ve read.

    Please share with as many as you can.

    https://freedombunker.com/2020/04/07/coronagate-the-truth-emerges/

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  27. rondo123456 says:

    Italy’s Communist Recipe for Disaster
    Was it just the Chinese who brought the virus to Italy?

    So who is to blame?

    It has everything to do with communists. Allow me to explain.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/04/italys-communist-recipe-disaster-frontpagemagcom/#disqus_thread

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  28. datagooroo says:

    New York looks to have peaked yesterday (or maybe today), did not reach the death levels we saw in Italy: https://whatthedatasays.com/2020/04/09/new-york-coronavirus-peak-not-as-bad-as-lombardy-italy/

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  29. Robert Smith says:

    “…Americans are dying daily because of FDA regulations that have repeatedly delayed testing for the Covid-19 virus and impeded the manufacture and deployment of masks and other protective equipment. The agency’s obstructionism has angered the public—and prompted a search for scapegoats at the FDA and the White House—but there’s nothing unusual about these deadly delays. They’re an inevitable consequence of the FDA’s rules and its charter to allow only medical treatments and devices that its cautious bureaucrats have decreed to be “safe and effective.” This philosophy is conservatively estimated to be responsible for tens of millions of deaths of people waiting for the FDA to approve treatments for cancer, heart disease, and other ailments….”

    https://www.city-journal.org/fda-bureaucracy-hindering-covid-19-fight

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      The trouble is: “Americans are not ‘dying daily!'” You don’t need a “test” to confirm or to deny the symptoms of serious lung-involvement when you see them: you simply treat the patient symptomatically. Give quinine if you think it might help, and see if it does.

      The media wants to paint this thing as though it were The Black Death, and it very simply isn’t. Only a very small number of patients who contract this virus develop serious symptoms, and patients who die almost never die of it.

      The entire world(!) swallowed the kool-aid that business needed to stop and that people had to stay away from each other … but the virus didn’t seem to notice.

      I’ve said it for weeks now: “Enough! You’re WRONG!”

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  30. J says:

    As the calls of “bagpipes Barr” is a deep state cleaner grew louder on this site and elsewhere, I daily defended the position that we do not have enough information to conclude that he is or isnt a cleaner. The tea leaves pointed to both possibilities– that he is justice incarnate and that he was a cleaner sent by the deep state. The situation is complicated, as is the case, and there is a cast of hundreds, if not thousands of co-conspirators.

    Id remind everyone that building a case of seditious conspiracy is a long and arduous process and that information is necessarily kept close to the vest in order to achieve such goals. That serious men act seriously, and do not leak to the press their intentions.

    I was scoffed at.

    Now this from Catherine Herridge (full transcript on her twitter which link can be found at : https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/transcript-published-fbi-spys-call-george-papadopoulos-two-weeks-election-attempt-take-trump-campaign/ ):

    “The transcript, in which Papadopulos is apparently given the code name “Crossfire Typhoon” or CT, at the end of the hours-long conversation, shows the confidential human source questioning him about the DNC hack:

    CHS: You don’t think anyone from the Trump campaign had anything to do with the f***ing over the, at the DNC?

    Papadopoulos: No

    CHS: Really?

    Papadopoulos: No. I know that for a fact.

    CHS: How do you know that for a fact?

    Papadopoulos: ‘Cause I go, I’ve been working with them for the last nine months. That’s (unintelligible) And all of this stuff has been happening, what, the last four months?

    The FBI source then pressed Papadopoulos on whether someone on the Trump campaign might have been secretly involved.

    CHS: But you don’t think anyone would have done it, like under, undercover or anything like that?

    Papadopoulos: No, I don’t think so…..There’s absolutely no reason…First of all, it’s illegal, you know, to do that s***.”

    And this from George Papadoupolous (apologies–I dont know how to embed tweets, im old and really dont care to learn):

    My profanity laced interview with yet another loser informant has been published. I promise you there is a conspiracy case being built around this frame job. I know exactly who it is. https://t.co/xRG72AHxFZ

    — George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) April 9, 2020

    More from Papadoupolous here : https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/justice-coming-george-papadopoulos-promises-conspiracy-case-built-around-created-trump-russia-collusion-hoax/

    I am still hopeful Barr and Durham will get to the bottom of this and the traitors will be brought to justice. I temper this with a healthy skepticism built through decades of lying BS from the media, bureaucrats and politicians. I maintain my timeline of after the election when President Trump has received an overwhelming mandate from the American People.

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  31. burginthorn says:

    Was reading an article that mentioned the CCP and for a second I was unsure what CCP stood for as I was reading technical information about the virus, and a thought popped into my head …”Commie Cough Pandemic?”

    Commie Cough. I do hope it catches on. 😛

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    • booger71 says:

      Figured they would after Chucky said he wouldn’t…the dims want the stuff they didn’t get in phase 3….just forget about another stimulus and open the economy back up

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    • alligatriot says:

      If you know a small business owner, show them this article.
      If you know a Democrat, show them this article.
      If you know a never-Trumper, wait, why would you?

      Democrats are not (and never have been) a friend of the small business person.

      Remember: “Friends don’t let friends vote Democrat.”

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  32. Alex50 says:

    I just read that a New Jersey restaurant is now selling “In Fauci We Trust” t-shirts for $29. Forget the Fauci shirts, let’s go with Fauci toilet paper. Much more useful and for once, he would actually solve a current problem.

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  33. helmhood says:

    Another day back at the office. Paid some bills, made some money. I have my health and my freedom, by the grace of God. And Donald Trump is my President.

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  34. Jason Ross says:

    We DO NOT need a “back-to-work” task force or a Czar or another trillion dollar handout to airlines and museums in DC.

    We need POTUS to come on TV with a giant chart showing Covid-19 deaths superimposed over the last five flu seasons. Then he needs to say the federal gov’t recommends no additional action beyond what is normally given during flu season. Then whip the microphone at Jim Acosta’s face and moonwalk back behind the curtain.

    I agree with letting Fauci and Birx hang themselves to an extent, but the last three months have proven they can and will spin lies till November. And the media will run interference at every top of the hour every single day.

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    • Free Speech says:

      This x1000!

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    • Paul Woll says:

      That would be a mistake. Deaths are not the problem. Hospitalizations are and that is the main problem with this coronavirus. All actions taken have been related to preventing our hospitals from being overrun. I personally believe it is unlikely to overrun our hospitals but he needs to prove he has a plan to prevent that. I think what Trump said yesterday was demonstrating wisdom about his plans for reopening up and at the moment I trust him on that. I am disappointed with CDC and Birx influence on Trump though and hope he is aware of her work with Bill Gates Foundation and her past Dod exposure on fraud with HIV/Aids manipulation on stats. Deaths should be confirmed by tests and those who are positively tested should be counted only if there is evidence that it caused their death.

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      • Jason Ross says:

        Is there evidence anywhere that any hospital tent or triage center is actually being used? The hospital ship outside Manhattan is sitting idle and California is shipping out its ventilators.
        Hospitalizations are one-tenth of what was predicted. Literally less people are in the hospital right now than during the ‘apex’ of the last two flu seasons.

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        • Paul Woll says:

          Hospital ship outside Maanhattan was idle because it was supposed to handle non-coronavirus cases. Trump has changed it’s purpose yesterday I believe. Agree with your because of elective surgeries, and other non-coronavirus treatments etc. hospitals are much more empty. But some hospitals are overloaded. Concern would be opening up too quickly at moment would be counterproductive. If letting people just get infected caused higher number of total infections this will directly correlate with increased load on hospitals. IHME data is outdated both on number of beds, ICUs, etc. Likely can handle much more. Percent of hospitalizations with this is over 100 times that of a flu rate relative to positive cases. However, noting we are not really testing the whole population. Deaths and Positive Cases are way underreported so that number goes down quite a lot but probably not enough. Realistically we need good data and we are still waiting for consistent ways to count deaths, cases, recoveries, etc across all states. Problem is without good data a rash action could hurt Trump a lot, but no action related to economy also can hurt. I believe Trump has a strategy and doing his best to get it going before end of month. Maybe sooner… There are a lot of things he can do that would help people see a light at end of tunnel. Lets pray for wisdom and discernment for Trump and Pence.

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          • Jason Ross says:

            “Percent of hospitalizations with this is over 100 times that of a flu rate relative to positive cases.”

            This is completely unknown and likely false.

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  35. sunnyflower5 says:

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    • Charles Darwin says:

      This is sad to see. He’s WRONG and covering his own butt for listening to the “medical experts” instead of his almost always correct instincts…..but whatever, it’s only tens of millions of jobs.

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      • sunnyflower5 says:

        yes, he should just ignore the science. That wouldn’t lead to impeachment. Seeing how the science and models are playing out are aiding in opening the country up sooner rather than later.

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      • iswhatitis says:

        He really has no choice.

        If he were to “gun it alone”, based on his instincts (no matter how true and accurate), you would very quickly see the entire Democrat + RINO Uniparty fast-track an impeachment; and they’d have their “excuse” to pass it in both the House and Senate.

        He’s basically surfing a tidal wave, and doing his best to not let it crash down upon him (with many external forces trying to “push” him into the wave so that he does crash) – so that after it passes, he can help rebuild what is left.

        If he does “crash”, we are completely at the mercy of the Globalists / Uniparty.

        As far as I am concerned, he is doing what is best, and is still the only real choice come this November (or whenever, if they successfully game the date and/or methods).

        These “tens of millions of jobs” you make note of – they are not on him. They are on the rest of the political establishment.

        But whatever, let’s blame him anyways. It’s not like that’s what “they” want, amirite?

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    • Garavaglia says:

      Are flu deaths dropping at the same rate? Asking for a friend.

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  36. FPCHmom says:

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  37. RobInPA says:

    A good friend and fellow Ski Patroller sent this out to the entire patrol thanking us for the ‘condolences’ fruit basket we sent to his family.

    It is heartbreaking, and at the same it fills me with rage and white-hot COLD ANGER that I have for the Uniparty / Deep-State for the malicious and deliberate harm they are inflicting upon our nation.

    “On behalf of my wife Debbie and myself, we would like to thank the patrol for the fruit basket. I hope this virus does not impact any of your families lives. It has been a horrible experience. My Mother-in-Law passed away on Monday morning. My wife wanted desperately to be there to comfort her Mom but was not permitted. It has been over 9 days since the test was administered and we have not received the official result and therefore we have not been able to arrange for the burial since it cannot be done without an official death certificate. To make matters worse the funeral home is no longer embalming the body and therefore we are not permitted to pay our last respects. There will be no mass and we are only permitted to have 10 people in attendance at the cemetery. You read about what is happening but when the reality hits your family it is really surreal. I hope you and your family stays safe and healthy.

    Tom A.”

    The longer this takes to end the more severe the retributions are going to be.

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  38. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  39. alligatriot says:

    Interesting points within this article which will not be unfamiliar to many who post here. (Apologies if it’s been posted, I didn’t find it.)

    (Notes: The date of the article is March 30, 2020. I am not a medical professional or a statistician. I am not familiar with the author of this article. I am not familiar with Association of American Physicians and Surgeons where this article appears.)

    FTA:
    “But what is more concerning than the virus itself is our American collective response to it. It is no less than tragic.”

    “Despite all of these facts and observations, the medical community seems to be panicked almost, at times, to the same extent as the general population. Helpful and necessary therapies and evaluations are being denied to millions of individuals due to concerns of spreading the virus.”

    Coronavirus COVID-19: Public Health Apocalypse or Panic and Anti-American?

    https://aapsonline.org/cornoavirus-covid-19-public-health-apocalypse-or-panic-hoax-and-anti-american/

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  40. Hans says:

    I read an interesting article about the globalist/Wall st trying to take out Main St. the . independent economy..

    This pandemic has shut down main st and these are the people out of work.. these are the people loosing their small businesses…

    Think about two things.. who is hiring.. Amazon, Walmart ,3M … globalist companies plenty of cheap labor.

    With president Trump closing the border how do you get cheap labor..Pandemic. Close small businesses.

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  41. Manufactured News Network BREAKING NEWS: According to FEC records, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s wife Christine Grady donated $1,200 to the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016. Other records seem to indicate that Dr. Fauci himself donated 17 million jobs in 2020. Dissimulating…

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  42. Bogeyfree says:

    Folks, we really need to push back on CV death count.

    We have heard from Brix that a doctor can code ANY death as COVID-19 if they have SYMPTOMS.

    SYMPTOMS!

    So I died of a heart attack but had a fever at time of death – guess what, I can be coded as a CV Death

    So I die of cancer but had a cough at time of death – guess what, I can be coded as a CV death

    So I die of the common flu but since I had CV sysmptoms – guess what I can be coded as CV death.

    IMO it is time to investigate the data and specifically their death count.

    I propose we set up a Doctor Website whereby doctors can anonymously post what is truly happening at their hospital regarding CV death certificates.

    Are they getting pressure from the state, from politicians, from their hospital administrators to code as many deaths as CV as possible??

    It is time to get the truth out to all Americans. If someone created the site and we fed the information to Hannity, Tucker, Bongino, Rush, Levin, Owens etc to help create awareness.

    Imagine if we had 100-500 doctors saying they have been pressured to code as many deaths as COVID-19.

    It is time to expose these fraudsters.

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  43. k4jjj says:

    If “social distancing” is healthy, those who live in New York City are living in an inherently unhealthy environment.

    They don’t walk the sidewalks six feet apart. They don’t ride the subways six feet apart. They don’t climb stairs in a high-rise building six feet apart.

    They are shoulder to shoulder on sidewalks. They are crammed into elevators. They eat in packed restaurants. They wait in tight lines for food and entertainment. Many stores and shops in NYC are usually packed with people.

    In California, most people travel in private vehicles. In New York City, they are on foot and in each others’ faces.

    Such dense habitation is an invitation to deadly pandemics.

    The proper path to disease mitigation is so obvious here, it is almost laughable.

    No city of 8 million humans packed tightly together in a small space is a healthy place to live.
    If New York City cannot be serious about REDUCING its population density, its citizens are always going to be prime candidates for the spread of disease.

    New York City people occupy no intellectual or moral high ground to dictate how the rest of Americans must react to pandemics. Beyond New York City, other Americans live in much more healthy conditions.

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    • helmhood says:

      They ought to build a wall. And I know just the guy to do it.

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    • Skippy says:

      Thank you for your comment. I have a daughter and male partner who live In a nice lower Manhattan apartment, under quarantine now 15 days. They do walk their dog briefly but I’m still concerned,

      I’d welcome any suggestions on how to limit taking their St. Charles Springer out of apartment. He’s a wonderful, obedient and intelligent dog. I’ve been suggesting a favorite towel in the bathroom to pee on, while limiting walks so there is urgency to go or use same. I originally suggested they buy a plastic pan and cat litter but that didn’t go over well w them. There is no roof top garden (too bad). There is in apartment washer/dryer so all towels will be washed. I also reminded them, given the current gravity of situation in NYC, things can be fixed like carpets and floors. Any ideas?

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  44. FPCHmom says:

    Today’s Morning Report by JJ Sefton is exceptional, with commentary and links to news of the day

    The same column is also over at Ace of Spades blog –
    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=386765

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  45. WeThePeople2016 says:

    This is not a surprise. The Dems got a lot of pork in the last Bill. They want more in this one.

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