April 6th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1173

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  1. CM-TX says:

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    | … But these numbers in California are striking. Why in the world, with all of the people from China who have flown in and out of California, five to 7,000 a day since December, why are these numbers so low there? I maintain to you that it is herd immunity. I think they’ve immunized themselves. I think the people in California had this disease in December, January, didn’t know what it was, many people lived through it, got better, built up antibodies before anybody knew what coronavirus was, before anybody knew it had escaped China. Because social distancing cannot explain the low numbers. They only started social distancing two days prior to New York, two days of a lead of social distancing will not explain the great disparity in these numbers.

    Again, 40 million people in California. The state economy is shut down, 40 million people. They have less than 250 deaths from coronavirus. Three people per million have died. They’ve got twice the population of New York. And yet one-tenth the number of deaths. Three people per million dying, 760 people die in California every day. They’ve shut down the state because 250 deaths have happened from coronavirus. Victor Davis Hanson, we’ve had about four extra on average. |

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/04/03/victor-davis-hanson-on-coronavirus-and-california/

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Looking at freeway traffic, most drive one person to a car in LA. My guess is the public transportation in NYC, in particular the subway. People grab handrails on stairs and packed into trains with everybody touching and grabbing things to hold onto..

      Also a lot warmer in LA so less heated areas and more fresh air.

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  2. Pokey says:

    Ladies,gentlemen, and whomever. The smell of bad fish is getting awfully hard to ignore. The good news is that since most of us can still smell bad fish, we are not likely to be infected with the bat shit virus.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      I can sense dog crap on my shoe without actually knowing that it’s there. Cuz it smells like dog crap. And it follows you around wherever you go. At some point, you just know: I must have dog crap on my shoe. A number of years ago somebody’s dog crapped in my driveway. I pulled into the garage, exited the vehicle, and I immediately knew: “I have dog crap on one of my tires”. Some things in life…

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      • Peoria Jones says:

        Things I would give you, if I possessed them:

        – The thumbs-up emoji
        – The tears of laughter emoji
        – The applause emoji

        This whole situation reminds me of one of my favorite expressions, “You don’t have to stick your head in the sewer to know that something down there stinks.”

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  3. ltravisjr says:

    I got to wondering, is there any chance the deep state would sacrifice Fauci and Birx as a means to vanquish Trump? I mean, once the virus starts to wane, would the deep state and the media turn to the economy and blame Trump for the devastation because he trusted Fauci and Birx, whom they throw under the bus? Or could Fauci and Birx be conspirators and plan to exit the stage (with payoff) once it is time to pivot to the economy?

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    • Amy2 says:

      Well, if they weren’t going to, you just gave them a good idea!

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    • Publius2016 says:

      House already has pivot ready…question will be WHEN THEY ARE FIRED?

      Drs. Brix and FaucIII are globalist insiders

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    • thedoc00 says:

      It is already in the plan. Sacrificing pawns and eliminating collaborators (as untrustworthy assets) are among the constants one can count on from Marxists.

      Do Al Franken and Senator Burr ring any bells?

      Senator Feinstein is also on the list to take the fall with Burr, if necessary.

      The really interesting part in studying the how Marxists and Communists use pawns is that they actually tell the pawns ahead of time, “your grave has been dug, so work hard to stay out of it”.

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      • Ken Lawson says:

        thedoco- Thank you for reminding people of what should be obvious. The left is extremely predictable and loyal to no one. The ends justify the means for them and that means that sacrificing anyone to achieve their goals is acceptable and a regular practice.

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        • annieoakley says:

          I see Joe Biden as their current sacrifice and he is so far gone he doesn’t even see what they are doing to him.

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          • thedoc00 says:

            Actually it is sad, in a way, that Joe knows exactly what they are doing. 2-3 months ago, while he was still lucid, Obama publicly told Joe, “you do not have to do this”. It was probably one of the only public displays of humanity from Obama as he really felt bad for Joe at the time.

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            • Beau Geste says:

              Imagine slow-joe totally deteriorated by dementia by the time of a (postponed) Dem convention. Bernie is still in it. If he doesn’t ‘endorse” the cuomo-hillary or other planned ‘ticket’, the dems will lose with many congresscritters along with them.

              The Dems can’t just give him money and withdraw the criminal threat to his wife this time. How many houses would it take for him to ‘withdraw’? What does he want now that he has more houses than he can use?
              Imagine bernie as secretary of state?
              Federal Reserve Chairman AND Treasury Secretary?

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Fauci & Birx aren’t going anywhere. If they erred on the side of caution, no harm to them. If the President disregards their uber-conservative cautions and warnings and reopens the country, any deaths as a result are on his head and his head only. They are in a no-lose situation and so are their allies in the MSM and elsewhere.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Nope, they are going anywhere because they are hoping to be covered by their benefactors. There was NO erring involved, this is shotty science at best and more likely willful negligence as they have been called for their willful disregard for established principles for use of “models” in support decision support.

        If it was possible, these two should be censured by the peers, but their peers are not going to commit an act of professional cannibalism in public..

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      • Publius2016 says:

        dimms have unlimited number of deaths between nursing homes and hospice…they already count anyone who has “symptoms” as Covid related…

        Total deaths over the year are stable…

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    • FPCHmom says:

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    • Robert Smith says:

      100%.

      They don’t care one bit for them. All their players are expendable. These guys don’t know hoe to play the same game the IC guys know how to play where they have dirty leverage on other people.

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      • ltravisjr says:

        My thoughts are the deep state are not medical advocates, nor are they economic advocates. They play for their power alone, and will focus on the medical – and then. happily discard it – as it drives their agenda…to get rid of Trump.

        Even if they hadn’t planned to pivot, once the virus plan fails, they and the media will simply turn the focus to the economy as an unintended plan B.

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    • trapper says:

      In a heartbeat. The left eats its own. Always has, everywhere. Purges, executions, disappearings, cultural revolutions in which one faction erases its fellow leftists from the history books.

      Fauci better just get used to the fact that he will be the main menu item of the democrats this summer. He’s been wrong from the start, first downplaying the severity and significance of it in January, then pooh poohing what will turn out to be the miracle cure, hydroxychloroquine with a z-pac. He teed himself up to be the fall guy. The left will teat him to pieces.

      Not so much Birx, because she has wisely pretty much stayed in her lane, which is data collection and analysis and modeling. Fauci regularly strays into policy and will be amply punished for it.

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  4. thetrain2016 says:

    In the long history of humanity highly contagious diseases did come and go. Until cures were found the only proven remedy was quarantine. Why it’s different today?

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    • Sporty says:

      Because this isn’t 1860.

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      • Yadent says:

        Um, in the olden days we quarantined those who were infectious. Today, being so much smarter, we quarantine EVERYONE……not because such a plan is proven to work but because they can and we let them. The state says you ALL are ill until the state says you’re not.

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        • dwpender says:

          And YOU can engage in any activities “at all” only if His Royal Highness the Governor of your State deems them “essential.” Without HIS regal permission, anything else you do is now criminalized.

          I recall somewhere in the mystic chords of memory learning that in a free society operating funder the rule of law, laws of general applicability tell the citizen what he cannot do. In a totalitarian police state, the authorities tell you what you can do.

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        • Problem is with asymptomatic transmission and initial symptoms that could be due to a range of other diseases you can’t identify all those that have the disease (only about 1/3 of test are positive in MI, yes could be false +/-). Good news if you “break the chain of transmission” quarantine those known to be infected and those known to be exposed and for asymptomatic transmission everyone practices social distancing, masks, good hygiene, it will in time shut down transmission within a population (really good news works for other community transmitted diseases). Asymptomatic cases, either recover or convert to symptomatic cases and are quarantined until they no longer shed the virus. With a 14-day max incubation period, start with a 14 day shelter in place, add another 14 days for shelter in place for individuals that develop disease and not tested. Another 14-day shelter in place to cover associates of those shelter in-place folk that developed non-tested disease. Now you are at 42 days. If you get good compliance with measures, the infection dies out in the population, if not you will see areas where the reported cases continue to rise. The final consideration is not to import new disease from outside of the country will need to quarantine and test. The “flatten the curve ” concept should be “flatten and shorten” not as catchy but more clearly states the goal reducing the rate of case occurrences AND greatly reduced number of cases.

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      • thetrain2016 says:

        It doesn’t matter. The remedy remains the same when you have no vaccine, pill or anything that works.

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        • Irisheyes says:

          What rock have you been living under?

          Hydroxychloroquine has been deemed a highly successful treatment by doctors around the world, and has also been effective as a prophylaxis. The medication is almost 70 years old and is safe for most people for short term use. Ivermectin is another old-line medication for parasites that’s shown to be effective In Treating covid.

          And NO, I’m not going to post links. This info is all over the internet for those who crave the truth and will take a few minutes to look. I’ve no more patience for those who want others to spoon-feed them information because they’re too lazy to research.

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          • thetrain2016 says:

            I’m aware of that. It’s a recent discovery to use it against the virus. It has positive results, but only early stages of infection. Needs work on that.

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            • Beau Geste says:

              Why is our US CDC so against ‘positive results in the early stages of infection’? Why has the CDC NOT DONE ANT WORK ON THAT? Why is the work ALL DONE BY foreign countries? Are we so far behind other countries? Is our CDC stupid? Antiviral properties of drugs have long been known. The CDC has been WELL ADVISED of coronavirus pandemic threat. A wide variety of other CHEAP drugs are known to have broad antiviral properties, and specifically anti-corona properties.

              WHAT THE HE!! is wrong with our CDC?
              In addition to chloroquine and hydroxchloroquine+Zinc (used successfully very early by the Koreans), cepharanthine ( avery safe drug), selamectin and mefloquine hydrochloride are known exhibit complete inhibition of cytopathic effects in vitro. Ivermectin, another VERY CHEAP Nobel Prize-winning drug, has long been known to have broad antiviral properties.

              Yet our CDC not only has avoided work on cheap, effective drugs, it appears to be trying to block US Citizens and their Doctors from using them. It is unlikely that CDC is even now funding research to optimixe such drugs, which are much better than quarantine, shutdown, masks, and death-ventilators.

              What do you think is wrong with the CDC? I think they are incompetent, bureaucratic, biased hillary-lovers who are intent on expensive vaccines, so do not want a cheap drug treatment.

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              • thetrain2016 says:

                Lots of work happening behind the curtains. The CDC, the FDA and clinics working with each other. Relax.

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                • Beau Geste says:

                  Is that you, Dr. Fauci?
                  Why ‘behind the curtains’ like the phony wizard of Oz? WHY SO LATE TO THE RESEARCH PARTY? Other countries publish their work? Other countries have been hard at work on anti-SARS drugs.
                  The CDC has had years to prepare for a SARS pandemic. Yet they oppose drugs with known promise that other countries exploit, and have apparently refused to examine and optimize them over the past decade.
                  Something is VERY, VERY wrong with the CDC.
                  The only way to disinfect a bad, co-opted bureaucracy is to get rid of all management, prohibit love letters to hillary and other politicians, conflicting interactiions with Big Pharma, and start over.

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                • thetrain2016 says:

                  Yes, this is Tony. Medical professionals here in the U.S. are sharing results of their research work with each other and with professionals around the world as well. The fact, known worldwide, the United States is the leader of medical research, development of new medicine and technology. There are “experts” within the world’s medical community who are opportunists, even fraudsters to generate attention and make money over unproven claims, without running comprehensive clinical trials and carefully analyzing the results. The pill that miraculously cures all the infections caused by the Chinese Virus is currently unavailable. The anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine has positive effects on mild infections in the early stages, but more clinical trials required to prove its effectiveness in preventing the infection and helping to stop the spread of infection within the respiratory system of the infected. There are no people in the field of medicine who vehemently opposing the wider use of hydroxychloroquine, but caution must be taken. That’s all.
                  P.S. Downgrading the tireless work of professionals doesn’t help either.

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            • Beau Geste says:

              Based on CDC behavior with HCQ, Ivermectin must be WAY too INEXPENSIVE for the US CDC and FDA, so it would never be willingly tested or recommended for the Chinese Virus, even if it is effective at moderating the pandemic and saving lives. According to Wikipedia, the wholesale cost in the developing world for Ivermectin is about US$0.12 for a course of treatment. 12 Cents !!! It is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines, the safest and most effective medicines needed in a health system. So, it could NOT possibly be approved by the FDA and CDC for use in the US, even if it works, alone or in combination with other drugs to slow the Chinese virus, for which the CDC is determined to develop an expensive vaccine. No company would spend $2Billion on the FDA for “approval”. If PDJT is re-elected, hopefully he can clean out the infestation in the CDC/FDA.

              Here are a few papers of WORK IN OTHER COUNTRIES. WHY OTHER COUNTRIES? WHY BLOCKED AND UNFUNDED IN THE US? THE POTENTIAL WAS WELL KNOWN !!
              “The FDA-approved Drug Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro”, Antiviral Research, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.antiviral.2020.104787.
              Summary. Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited to monitoring/containment. We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-19 spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 hours post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.

              Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations J Antibiot (Tokyo). 2017 May;70(5):495-505. doi: 10.1038/ja.2017.11.
              Abstract
              Over the past decade, the global scientific community have begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan. Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi ?mura, of Tokyo’s prestigious Kitasato Institute, receive the 2014 Gairdner Global Health Award and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, which he shared with a collaborating partner in the discovery and development of the drug, William Campbell of Merck & Co. Incorporated. Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary.

              Ivermectin Inhibits Bovine Herpesvirus 1 DNA Polymerase Nuclear Import and Interferes with Viral Replication.Microorganisms. 2020 Mar 13;8(3). pii: E409. doi: 10.3390/microorganisms8030409
              The broad spectrum antiviral ivermectin targets the host nuclear transport importin ?/?1 heterodimer. Antiviral Res. 2020 Mar 2:104760. doi: 10.1016/j.antiviral.2020.104760.

              Ivermectin inhibits DNA polymerase UL42 of pseudorabies virus entrance into the nucleus and proliferation of the virus in vitro and vivo.Lv C et al. Antiviral Res. (2018)
              Antivirus effectiveness of ivermectin on dengue virus type 2 in Aedes albopictus.Xu TL et al. PLoS Negl Trop Dis. (2018)

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              • Beau Geste says:

                Dr. tony Falsie, I can’t reply above, but I understand you are calling the medical researchers who have published their anti-viral drug work as “opportunists” and “fraudsters”, including those of the papers cited, and those of other countries who have saved patients with anti-viral drugs.
                And your argument that US CDC workers have been working in strict secrecy on very cheap antiviral drugs for years, while not publishing to share their work, is not persuasive. The fact that other countries are WELL AHEAD of the CDC in antiSARS drug work and publication, also undercuts your claim that the US is a leader. The CDC is a reluctant follower. If it is even belatedly doing any secret work on ant-SARS drugs now, it is by reason of being forced to, while kicking and screaming ‘anecdotal’, by PDJT and public embarassment into the 21st Century.

                THe CDC management needs to be disinfected, and replaced with whatever competent people who we may still have in the US.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Two major corrections, to your assertions.
      1. Cures have never been found, they manage and mitigate but never cure. ALL the diseases with “cures” are still with us today and some have mutated to defeat the “cures”.
      2. Quarantines only worked on very local levels, as say in a hospital but never in larger settings.

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      • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

        Big Pharma is all for the prescriptions each month more than the cure.

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      • thetrain2016 says:

        1. But somehow (miracle?) people get cured.
        2. Every States broken down to localities. The results are different, but results happen.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          No people are not “cured”. They are only healed (or cured) for the time being and are susceptible to the virus again in its present or mutated form. The vaccines and other drugs can mitigate this but they are not necessarily 100% “cured”.

          It is the exact phenomenon we live with every year or long time period to receive booster shots or flu shots for existing diseases.

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      • steph_gray says:

        No idea where I read this, ages ago on CTH in mental time, but the report was that the ChiComLab Virus, if a vaccine were possible, would behave not like the flu (needing a new vaccine every year, and each one a gamble), but more like measles (needing one vaccine only).

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    • bertdilbert says:

      We lost quarantine with air travel. Ships were quarantined until cleared by health department..

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      • thedoc00 says:

        We lost quarantine as it was broken (at least that we know of) between 1 November 2019 and 15 January 2020. Forget those cruise ships, millions had already traveled through major air and sea terminals in San Francisco, Seattle, NYC, Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, New Jersey Ports, et al… Do any of the “hot spot names” from the list above sound familiar?? Also, note they are all democrat party controlled.

        Also, note there were NO alarming increases in disease or death rates during that period either.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          One other flaw in your logic is think of ALL the crews from container ships arriving at US ports from China during that period as well. Then there are the border patrol reports of increased illegal immigration from China into the USA during the same period as well.

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          • bertdilbert says:

            It takes minimum about 15 days for a cargo ship to go from China to California. The crews are mostly not Chinese. China Shipping and COSCO are the biggest Chinese based ships but that is just a fraction of the China trade. They do not spend a lot of time on shore.

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            • thedoc00 says:

              Read you own comment. They arrived within the time period noted and per your own words “the went ashore”. So what is your point, just showing us you know how to read sailing schedule??

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              • bertdilbert says:

                Well actually I spent 25 years in the shipping industry. Most of the crews are from some improvised country that provides cheap labor. The crew does not spend much time ashore. Cargo ships are not cruise ships. When they come into port they have a job to do on the vessel. They work 12 on and 12 off.

                Just pointing out the flaws in your logic.

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    • Amy2 says:

      We were much more self sufficient in years past.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        We were also a rural country that long ago.

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      • thetrain2016 says:

        …and disciplined.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          And our government Agencies such as the CDC were more competent, dedicated to the Citizens, and not so corrupted by political bias and co-option.

          Can you imagine a CDC Bureaucrat writing a literal “I love you” letter to President Eisenhower? Slobbering all over Eisenhower that he “hit it out of the park” defending the Sherman Adams ‘scandal’?
          Can you imagine a time when we expected honesty and duty from our politicians and government, so much so that accepting a vicuna coat was actually a ‘scandal’ ?

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    • Bendix says:

      What’s being suggested and or implemented right now isn’t what we used to call quarantine, either.
      Quarantine was if you were sick, you stayed in your house, and nobody else entered.

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    • booger71 says:

      Well they did burn peoples houses down during the Typhoid epidemic of the late 19 early 20th century. Maybe we can go that route/sarc

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      • Leaving says:

        Stop beating around the bush. Let’s just start euthanizing those that come down with the virus. If we act fast enough we can get ahead of it and eliminate the virus from being in any humans.

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        • ouch – that hurt

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        • Flabbergasted says:

          But that contradicts Gov. Cuomo’s theory that destroying the livelihoods of hundreds of millions of people is worth it if we can save just one life . . . /s

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          • Beau Geste says:

            It is consistent with cuomo’s theory that New York Citizens should die on ventilators, rather than being able to get a prescription from their Doctor for an anti-viral drug at first sign of symptoms, or even before.

            Die my little pretties!!! Die !!! DIE !! , so New York can use up all the ventilators, so Dems can blame PDJT for not having enough ventilators which we cut out of the budget. My flying press monkeys will attack anyone who prescribes a drug… Cackle cackle !!!

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        • Flabbergasted says:

          But that contradicts Gov. Cuomo’s theory that destroying the livelihoods of hundreds of millions of people is worth it if we can save just one life . . . /s

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          • Beau Geste says:

            Except for those killed by MS13 gangs and the murderers/rapists he let out of prison. And those who could besaved by anti-viral drugs. And those who could be saved by ventilators and other PPE he cut from the state budget for ‘diversity’ programs.

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      • thetrain2016 says:

        Back then they didn’t have Lysol sprays./s

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  5. Doppler says:

    The USS Teddy Roosevelt, instead of being turned into the Diamond Princess, should go on a quarantine cruise, bring on board some clinical trial people, test everyone daily, and, for those who consent to be trial subjects, divide exposed/non exposed groups into randomly assigned HQC/NonHQC arms (non exposed taking it as prophylactic), have Wuflu activities to ensure everyone is exposed quickly, medivac anyone requiring hospitalization, and at the end of the cruise Fauci and the data snobs, and everyone else, will have a large dual arm, randomly assigned trial. You could add in placebos for the non treatment arms, to make the scientists especially happy. Plus you’d have a complete population study among healthy seamen documenting the disease course. Over in two months at a fraction of the cost of the Diamond Princess fiasco, and without taking the ship out of action.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Are you aware of what the USS Theodore Roosevelt is?

      The USS Theodore Roosevelt is the top ship in our carrier fleet. Anyone who would attempt to use the Roosevelt to host medical testing may as well run up the white flag and hand the keys to the White House to the ChiComs.

      You would be inviting full out Armageddon.

      Luv ya, Doppler, but what you suggest is just plain nuts.

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      • Doppler says:

        Turning the ship into the Diamond Princess, Jeans2d, as soon as there is a COVID-19 outbreak, needing to be completely taken down, off-loaded, and sterilized, sets the precedent for every other ship in the Navy. That would disable our entire fleet for months, exactly the worst thing vis a vis the Chinese. By the data,~ 80% of infected are not in the least disabled by nonexistent to minor symptoms. Probably higher among a healthy active duty military force. Shutting down the entire fleet, vs risking a small percentage of deaths on board, is not the best choice.

        Quarantine on ships is an old and necessary custom.

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        • jeans2nd says:

          You are correct, but sterilization is quickly done now with UV. Takes only a few minutes and the entire room is disinfected.

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      • wondering999 says:

        Not the Roosevelt… but there are other cruise ships out there that could be used, they are sitting empty right now, right? And… it’s my understanding, through anecdotal evidence, that cruise ships have already been used by multinational companies in the past for medical testing/research outside US law

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  6. Tech Startups: New updates from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: Cocktail of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc Sulfate and Azithromycin are showing phenomenon results with 900 Coronavirus patients treated – Must Watch Video

    https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

    Dr. Zelenko stresses “Hit it Early and Hit It Hard!” to PREVENT the need for hospitalization and ventilators–not waiting until the patients are very sick or hospitalized before helping them, as Cuomo and some other politicians demand. That approach seems designed to harm patients in order to drive down the success rate of the treatment.

    Politics over Patients No More!

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Any clinician with their weight learns to follow the same path once an effective medicinal tool is established.

      The accompanying part still required to complete the cycle is a large and easy access clinic environment that “early, often and sufficient monitoring can take place.

      So troubling that our medical “experts” completely ignore the practical treatment process that could have blunted further what was a not major social infection process.

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      • jrnthethird says:

        At what point does it become grounds for a lawsuit when a treatment exists that has a track record of success, but a doctor won’t prescribe it, and a family member then dies? (My first comment here, but I’ve been reading here for a while . I’m very thankful for Sundance and this site.)

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        • Beau Geste says:

          Would you sue the doctor, or the Democrat Governor who prevented the Doctor from prescribing? Or the pharmacist blocked by the Democrat Governor who threatened and blocked the Doctor’s prescription from being filled?

          The Doctor’s and Pharmacist’s defenses is pretty sound – I was threatened and blocked by the government. Or, even “I did not believe that HCQ was helpful, based on CDC statements… ”
          The Governor’s defense is relatively sound, that the CDC opposes it as being ‘anecdotal”, and blocking Chinese virus use to save it for other citizens with Lupus and Arthritis was necessary as determined by the State’s Health Expert. That plus State Sovereign Immunity and qualified immunity for official government actions is a very difficult hurdle.

          However, State sovereign immunity does cover state or personal action in violation of the federal or state constitution. Has the Federal Government, via the FDA, taken away State’s power to regulate Drugs? HCQ is an approved drug, which Doctors are federally authorized to prescribe ‘off-label’. Is it a civil right for Doctors (who are state-licensed) to be able to prescribe FDA-approved drugs to attempt to save patient lives? Is it within the power of a Governor, without implementing legislation, to block drug use? Is it a denial of civil rights for a Governor to favor Lupus Patients over dying Chinese Virus patients? Did the Governor deny civil rights under color of law, generally, or specifically in violation of 18 USC 242?
          By careful pleading, there might be some small chance that a case against the Governor could get to discovery stage? Assuming the HCQ treatment becomes well-known to juries as the facts come out, a jury might be sympathetic.
          But very long odds in a crooked Dem State.

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    • annieoakley says:

      Cuomo, and the CDC need deaths, any deaths to continue this farce.

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    • Reserved55 says:

      Thank you.

      Exposes Pharma Fauci for the fraud he is.

      👍👍

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    • zurizara1 says:

      This crisis is Dem/Marxist dream. Colorado just announced death panels. A team of 4 will decide who gets care in case of scarce resources, This is 1939 Germany.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Get on the treatment train. Doctors and hospitals waiting until you are gasping for breath is gambling with your life.

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  7. BuckNutGuy says:

    April 1st IMHE (U of Washington/”gold standard”) expected Covid deaths in Ohio = 1898
    April 5th IMHE (I know everyone can count, but just to be clear, 4 freaking days later) expected Covid deaths in Ohio = 544.

    They are making this up as they go along. The entire world relied on a fraud of a model. Of course Dr Amy Mingele will claim its the result of her draconian measures, but those measures were known and in place well before April 1st.

    Look up you own state by pulling on the tab at the top that says United States
    https://covid19.healthdata.org/

    To get Ohio historical I simply googled Ohio IMHE and this article popped:

    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/latest-university-of-washington-model-still-shows-ohio-has-enough-hospital-beds-for-covid-19-peak

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    • BuckNutGuy says:

      For comparison sake, in 2018, 3,764 people died in Ohio of drug overdose. We shut the whole thing down for what amounts to about 25% of the annual deaths by drug overdose…

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      • vikingmom says:

        Same story here in Washington State, the home of the IHME (sorry!) funded by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (big surprise – NOT!)

        Predicted 1400 deaths statewide on March 26th, dropped to 980 by April 1st, and dropped another 30% last night to only 632…which (coincidentally) is about an average flu season around here!!

        Of course, our flu deaths are exceedingly low this year for some reason….hmmm! Isn’t that convenient? /sarc

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      • Val says:

        I see your point, and I really wish and pray that we can find a solution to this chaos, but we can’t compare drug overdoses with a contagious virus.

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        • bertdilbert says:

          The person who gets the virus and goes on a vent is never going to know they died. At that point they are in a medically induced coma. What this is really about is the survivors who have to deal with the grief of having to deal with a lost loved one.

          What this is really about is shellfish people who think the world should stop to postpone their moment of grief which is coming anyway.

          What is the difference between sticking something in your arm and sticking something in your mouth? People do both drugs and food because of the way it makes them feel. Yes, they call it comfort food.

          The majority who fall to the virus are obese and diabetic. Maybe we should look at the virus as a health complication of diabetes that may result in death. The “It’s not your fault” MSM would never put it in those terms.

          Here lies the United States of America. A once thriving country that was shut down for obesity.

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      • Joebkonobi says:

        To be fair, drug overdoses are not contagious. They are self inflicted as opposed to a disease passed from one person to another. I don’t like the shutdown but we need to be honest about comparisons.

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        • Flabbergasted says:

          Clearly BNG didn’t say that “drug overdoses are contagious.” You seem to be reading that into his comment. His point is that we have voluntarily trainwrecked our economy and the livelihoods of tens of millions to save a relatively small number of lives compared to the number of lives annually lost to drug overdose. The point being that nobody seems to care too much about 4x the number of drug overdose deaths.

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          • Bendix says:

            Another point: Shutting down the border so those drugs couldn’t get in so easily woulld have saved one life, but we didn’t do it.

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    • jimlawhead says:

      fyi…i downloaded the data of the original model on day 1…so i have in database form all of the initial projections by state and by day. find me on facebook at jim lawhead (aloha) is in my banner…if you want the data.

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    • Somebody says:

      Florida’s projected numbers went up, not down. Total deaths by August up slightly. The projected ICU and ventilator needs are up sharply and the projected peak date has shifted from May 3rd to April 21st.

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      • vikingmom says:

        Going after Florida because DeSantis refuses to do a full shutdown, IMHO…

        Also, AGAIN, the IHME model dramatically underestimates the number of ICU beds, which makes the strain on the healthcare system seem to be far more serious than it is! IHME says there are only 1695 ICU beds in the whole state of Florida but a quick count of just part of the state finds over 4000, not including the Panhandle, according to a Kaiser estimate done on March 30th.

        Their error rate in ICU beds is one of the most glaring issues that needs to be addressed because it was one of the driving forces behind many of the shutdowns at state levels! Here in Washington, they claimed there were only 341 ICU beds state wide but we actually have over 1000 and never needed more than 200, even at the height of our “peak”!

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    • Jim in TN says:

      It will be hard to demonstrate effectiveness of various actions, but there should be noticeable time delayed consequences. Take these times as imprecise and replace them with more accurate times.

      An action that should reduce transmission will be seen as a reduction of the increase in new cases about 1 week after implementation. (The time before symptoms show up.) The reduction in new cases will follow with a reduction in new hospitalizations 2 weeks after implementation. And the reduction in hospitalizations will result in a reduction in the death rate 3 weeks after implementation. Of course, these reductions will begin gradually, so maybe we will be able to see them clearly a week later. Or 2 weeks to see reductions in new cases, 3 weeks to see reductions in hospitalizations and 4 weeks to see reductions in deaths.

      Effects of treatments will show up in sync with the above, but will depend on the point of implementation of the treatment. Treatments won’t reduce new cases directly. Maybe as a result of reducing viral load, but only after mass implementation. If you treat after diagnosis, it can reduce hospitalizations and then deaths. If you wait until hospitalization, those won’t be reduced either. It may still reduce deaths, but not nearly effectively as it would by treating before hospitalization.

      Of course this will all be hidden by mucking around with data collection. Whatever is done to collect data has to be done consistently to see some other effect in the data. Getting more kits out there allows more measurements and can show as an increase of cases or of deaths. China redefined their classifications, what it takes to be defined as having it, multiple times, ruining their data’s value even if they weren’t lying from start to finish.

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  8. mr.piddles says:

    Question #1: do we think CNN’s Chris Cuomo is getting the Hydroxychloroquine Cocktail treatment?

    Question #2: will we ever find out the answer to Question #1?

    My thinking: Yes on the former. No on the latter.

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    • Zydeco says:

      Do you think CC really has the virus or is it a made for tv production?

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      • Reserved55 says:

        Ding Ding Ding

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      • gingergal says:

        I’m suspicious of anyone who is in the public eye who claims to have the Covid.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        No, he’s really playing up, to be sure. It’s the perfect Made For CNN scenario. They love dead toddlers, planes that disappear into Black Holes, ‘n stuff like that.

        But I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually has COVID… or just some other nasty virus floating around… everybody gets sick t certain times of the year.

        Which reminds me. There was some MAJOR bug floating around last Nov/Dec/Jan… could have been COVID, something else, or all of the above. But I remember there were Fox News talking heads that looked and sounded like Dog Poop Warmed Over. I mean, these folks DID NOT sound good at all. That was before the current drama.

        So… yeah… people get nasty bugs. Can’t remember if Cuomo was actually tested, who knows. But CNN + Cuomo + Cooper + Lemonpuss + Whoever taking advantage is really just… too much.

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        • wondering999 says:

          Don’t want to interfere in Maria Bartiromo’s personal business, but I do recall a Treeper commenting that she had been sick and had to go off the air unexpectedly… after having been in Davos on assignment? or something like that. Wish she could comment

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        • I had a friend in the ICU with major
          problems in late Nov and Dec. Healthy adult, no underlying health issues. Had traveled in US for Thanksgiving and within a week was sicker than they had ever been with kidney failure inability to breathe, etc. they survived thankfully. The doctors told
          My friend they had the flu. We think it was covid-19

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      • Joebkonobi says:

        Hoax!

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      I think your thinking is spot-on, but also, why would we expect to ever hear anything from the media that would put POTUS in a good light?

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      • mr.piddles says:

        The POTUS angle is one thing. The bigger issue is: it’s the Anti-Fauci Counter-Narrative.

        HCQ is bad for business.

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    • WSB says:

      Was Fredo ever sick? I made myself watch the interviews with Big Brother, and he never coughed once.

      That was a pony trick, IMHO.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      It is amazing to see what people will admit to long afterwards, if society has changed enough to hold the people in honor. Of course it never gets spread as a condemnation, but I have heard JFK’s ghostwriter bragging about his authorship and I have heard Muhammad Ali’s ‘friends’ bragging about how they manipulated him and his simple faith for political purposes. All courtesy of CSPAN televising their little presentations.

      But some frauds take a very long time to be exposed, if ever. Time will tell.

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  9. Jeffrey407 says:

    I question whether Chris Cuomo even has it; he didn’t look feverish in his video. Compare and contrast to Boris Johnson’s videos before being hospitalized

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Well, he’s certainly SOUNDED lively and chipper when I’ve seen/heard him from his Basement Bunker Infirmary. I mean, THE GUY WON’T SHUT UP.

      He’s like the kid who stays home from school… and then is running around the house playing laser tag with the cat, playing Xbox, and eating Funyuns.

      “Um. Shouldn’t you be in bed, nibbling on Saltines, and sipping a Ginger Ale?”

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    • Flabbergasted says:

      I don’t know. He did say that his teeth were chattering so bad from fever that he chipped a tooth . . . but I digress so he doesn’t feel the need to ruin me./s

      Perhaps the steroids have helped ease the symptoms?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      If Chris Cuomo had it I would have expected Andrew Cuomo to have it.

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  10. islandpalmtrees says:

    Hydroxycholoroquine and choloroquine leaking into the health system and they wonder why? AMAZING!


    HUGE! Official IMHE Model for Coronavirus Used by CDC Just Cut Their Numbers by Half!… They’re Making It Up As they Go Along!
    April 6, 2020, by Jim Hof\


    OUTRAGEOUS!… Top Experts Used by CDC Move Total US Coronavirus Deaths From 2.2 Million to 200,000 to 81,766 in Only 8 Days!
    April 6, 2020, by Jim Hoft

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    • thedoc00 says:

      The one thing there cretins may have missed is that there are a heck of allot of people on social media who have created and used models professionally, and who are publicly calling them on their unprofessional use of and criminal neglect in use of “their models”.

      Also, they may have been arrogantly blind to the fact that if one lives and dies by their models, then anybody within the Executive Branch who does modeling; DoD, Finance, Engineering, et al can see how criminal they are acting. Principles of decision support modeling are the same no matter the topic.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Hopefully somebody loyal to the President within the Executive and/or the president has seen comments on social media, , has broken through to point out what these two hacks have been doing.

        The president needs to shift his mind back to his businessman roots. He was advised by folks using models for every business decision he ever made; business plans, cost models, schedules, et al.

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    • 4sure says:

      This should be the reason needed to fire the 2 Dr. Doom and Gloom.

      Pence can say, due to the model they have relied on being grossly wrong, and they have continued to let it drive their thinking, that he has no more confidence in them.

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    • CM-TX says:

      For further perspective:
      (can’t confirm accuracy on #’s, but just for a general idea in comparison)

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    • DiogeneseVindicated says:

      Let’s a model with HZQ-Zn-Zpac built in. It would look like the Cliffs of Dover.

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  11. Reserved55 says:

    ‘Too Naive Or Too Stupid To Be CO’: Leaked Speech Transcript Shows Acting Navy Secretary Modly Trashing Fired Carrier Captain To Group Of Sailors

    “The acting Secretary to the Navy added that Crozier did not go through the proper channels. He repeatedly talked about breaking a “chain of command” and told the sailors that they should never go to the media for issues.

    “And I’m gonna tell you something, all of you, there is never a situation where you should consider the media a part of your chain of command,” Modly said. “Because the media has an agenda and the agenda that they have depends on which side of the political aisle they sit, and I’m sorry that’s the way the country is now, but it’s the truth. And so they use it to divide us and use it to embarrass the Navy. They use it to embarrass you.”

    Modly continued to criticize the media as well as Crozier throughout his speech. He said that “we would no longer have a Navy” if all other CO’s “also believed the media was a proper channel to air grievances with their Chain of Command under difficult circumstances.”

    https://amp.dailycaller.com/2020/04/06/transcript-speech-thomas-modly-navy-brett-crozier-uss-theodore-roosevelt

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  12. I was on a conference call with our state’s Lt. Governor this morning and he made a Freudian slip. Someone asked him when the economy would be opened back up and the Lt. Governor said “we don’t have a complete picture of what the ‘new normal’ will look like on the other side” of this Wuhan Virus economic self-destruction programme.

    Look, I don’t know how much of this sabotage was deliberate versus the typical failures of technocracy, etc. But we elected PDJT partly because we rejected the pseudo-elite’s propaganda that the “new normal” was inevitable. And the pseudo-elites loved the new normal because they never made more money, while the plebes were pushed down where they belonged.

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    • Bendix says:

      There are definitely people out there, not of any fixed political ideology, who see this as being used as an excuse for what they are calling an economic reset.

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    • LKAinLA says:

      State Farm is already running commercials speaking of the “new normal.” They have all been given a memo of the language to use by the people really in charge of this country.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Screw that “new normal.”

      Let’s shoot for higher heights. I think everyone has seen how quickly and how much life can suck once the state becomes ascendant. Let’s turn away from the future right now.

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  13. evergreen says:

    Find MVW’s post much earlier in the comments. Read the writer’s theory of the mechanics of how the virus effects its outcome. No way to parse truth from fiction these days, but if there is consistency and conformity to knowable facts along with alignment with “anecdotal data”, then odds increase that what you are reading is true.

    Short: ad-hoc, triage drug trials with data, data, data collection and parsing. Data giants can hoover it all up and begin teasing out correlations within drug treatment experiments, and they need to be targeted according to the latest operating theories of the virus.

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  14. Mike Robinson says:

    A number of days ago now, a Scottish op-ed commentator on rt.com – speaking of “hoof-and-mouth disease” in the UK – made some excellent and well-informed points about what statistical prediction models are … and, aren’t. And, just how much trouble the world(!) can get into when we treat them as an oracle.

    Very plainly, these models were dead-wrong about dead.

    But also very plainly, governments around the world including our own used this as a dry-run for totalitarianism. “How much liberty will people give up when they’ve been told to be afraid?”

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    • Leaving says:

      This comment reminded me of Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation Series”. One of the concepts in it is that statistical modeling can only predict the eventual direction of a large group of people or society but cannot predict what occurs to individuals.

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      • TarsTarkas says:

        Asimov in the Foundation series was very much a proponent of the Marxist ‘Arc of History’ in which masses of people and their needs and wants would inevitably overwhelm any effect Great Men would have on society or a civilization. Unfortunately history has proven this theory wrong again and again. In fact his mutant character ‘The Mule’ with his ability to exert permanent emotional control over ordinary people proved that point. If Napoleon had died during his abortive rebellion on Corsica, if a youthful Temujin (later Ghenghis Khan) had not escaped the clutches of his archenemy Targoutai, if Washington had died of smallpox, the world would have been a very different place.

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        • Jim in TN says:

          Didn’t Asimov eventually tie his Foundation series to his robot series showing that all the good influences were per the wise guidance of his robots? His problems with the communists were their human fallibility and the short term nature of their plans.

          I think that was before he degenerated into a dirty old writer. Think the Groper and Bill Clinton combined, but still able to communicate.

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          • Beau Geste says:

            The Asimov ‘Solaria’ was a planet in which the inhabitants were afraid of ‘germs’, required gloves and noseplugs, and were so isolated that they almost exclusively communicated only by Zoom-like 3D video. Somewhat like where we are now, but not out of dislike for personal contact.

            Yes, his late ‘dirty old man’ aspect was peculiar, and damaged his overall contributions and exploratory vision.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      There is an aspect to this that people also need to understand. In the “professional” ranks, credentials can be used to elevate one set of opinions over peer professionals for a enough time to cause allot of damage, especially if their is enough corrupt support as well as support for good folks who were initially dazzled by the titles and sheep skins on the wall.

      The doctors of doom have made hay because of this phenomenon. Now they will be buried as sacrificial pawns as the “unnecessary (name the topic) suffering” of their misconduct is hung around the President’s neck for believing them.

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  15. Liberty Forge says:

    YouTube video from George Webb — where he discusses the composition of the Corona Virus:

    The general consensus is that this virus did not occur naturally. Instead, it was created in a lab — somewhere. Whether that lab was in Wuhan, China or Ft. Detrick, Maryland is unknown.

    During the mid-1980’s, I lived across the street from Ft. Detrick. All the locals knew it was a bio-weapons facility. My next-door neighbor, as an Army Colonel, worked there, and he was a mighty secretive fellow.

    When I lived there in Frederick, Maryland, Ft. Detrick was heavily guarded, and surrounded by extremely tall chain-link fencing. Within the grounds were herds of sheep, and lots of white horses. When I discovered that the animals were being used for testing, I wanted to set them free.

    With this release of the Corona Virus, whether intentional or accidental, and the world-wide crisis it has created, I think it is high time we re-evaluate bio-weapons; the labs where they’re created; and the scientists who manipulate natural things into dangerous/deadly things.

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      More fake “science news.”

      Trying, in any and every way possible, to stoke up the fear.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      “Whether that lab was in Wuhan, China or Ft. Detrick, Maryland is unknown.”

      Bull-shloney.
      We know exactly where this virus was created – Wuhan China – and anyone who says it is from Ft Dietrich is a dam liar, and a tool of the Communist Chinese Party.
      phooey

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      • wondering999 says:

        Disagree, respectfully… we already know that we have what, 22 bioweapons labs here?

        And that select people in our government have been selling top secret materials to foreign interests, for many years already?

        This isn’t a matter of blaming Ft. Detrick people, or blaming PRC… when dangerous substances are being played with, Chernobyls can, and do, happen.

        After World War I, chemical weapons were banned (but still experimented with)

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        • thedoc00 says:

          The only problem you have to explain is that Chinese medical and government officials who have since “disappeared” stated China is the origin. Also, the statements from the WHO, which got them tossed out China until they saw the light, stated the same.

          Then there are the false avian flu announcements from China in November 2019, warning travelers to China for the new years.

          Plus, the pattern of propagation supports the earlier statements from the “missing” Chinese Officials and WHO.

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          • wondering999 says:

            You’re right. Maybe what’s bothering me is that we should be pointing to the PRC –AND–enablers of the PRC elsewhere who are not Chinese. The Taiwanese tried to warn everybody, they saw the epidemic developing, and they are also “Chinese”. But no, PRC first. The Communists are killers

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            • thedoc00 says:

              Have not been following the statements by the President, Secretary Pompeo and others??

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              • wondering999 says:

                Have been following. But there is a great deal of conflicted information. We already know that much of the government bureaucracy has been in revolt since the 2016 election, including the CDC…. and we know that top-secret information was being passed along by HRC, so why not by her supporters?

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                • thedoc00 says:

                  Nothing conflicting has been stated by those who count and by admission of the PRC. It’s only conflicting if you allow yourself to be conned.

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                • wondering999 says:

                  Doc, the post upthread was asking why we have to have these biolabs. What has to happen to stop this type of weaponizing of science and technology? I agree that we are at odds with the mafiosi who run the PRC… but that’s also true of people like Brennan (Michael Hastings was writing an article about B, apparently, right before his untimely demise)

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        • jeans2nd says:

          Sadly, wondering, you may be correct. Reached that conclusion after watching Dr Fasci last night with Jonathan Karl.
          These ppl are evil.

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  16. Nick the Deplorable says:

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  17. Charles Darwin says:

    Yes, a date is the only thing required from our government overlords or the start-up will go as well as the shut down…

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  18. jimmy2times2 says:

    So with the models changing. Navarro push back on fraudsi..I am sensing my original prediction that I decided on after the April 30 extension is going to happen…this is trump negotiating. Giving wiggle room .4 /20 is the date he will say states should start opening. Starting in states with little infections.

    My bet is starting this week and probably today trump will hint at opening sooner then 4/30.. just a lot of things going on. Lot of reports on faulty models. He can use the new models as the driver to push this new timeline….hope I’m right. Every week down is probably another month or more of recovery time on the other side. Maga!!!

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  19. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The Strange Case of Trish Regan (Too Smart for TV?)

    “Monday, March 9, 2020, started as a day like any other for a newswoman in the midst of a global pandemic. Trish Regan, like other journalists across the country, studied the new data, both scientific and political, that had come to light over the weekend about coronavirus and developed the material she would use for the opening monologue on her prime-time Fox Business Network show.

    As always, Regan was prepared to challenge the shibboleths and talking points of the mainstream media and the Washington establishment. While she had at times distanced herself from the more bellicose comments of Donald Trump, she nonetheless typically sided with him as a disrupter who was bringing much needed change to our federal government….”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/06/the_strange_case_of_trish_regan_too_smart_for_tv_142860.html

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    • Zydeco says:

      Trish was right in her observations, just not politically correct to Fox and Paulie Numnuts Ryano. Is there any doubt that the Democommunists are gleeful in using the “crisis” to advance their political agenda. They basically brag about it.

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      Most “news” sources these days are frankly not worth reading. Such as this one.

      There are, comparatively speaking, almost no(!) “coronavirus victims.” In an effort to make this thing seem as sensational as possible, “COVID-19” is being listed on death certificates if the physician, as the CDC has now instructed, considers that it somehow might “possibly” be related. I’m patiently waiting for the first DC of someone who got smooshed by a bread truck to include this disease on the fourth line.

      This is not the Black Death, people, and it never, ever was. We’ve been scammed.

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      • toomanymice says:

        Agree the hysteria is a scam, but nyc funeral homes were close to capacity last week, so I don’t doubt there is a backlog for funerals currently. And chances are a decent number of bodies aren’t being claimed which is where the former potter’s field comes in.

        It’s hard to believe there aren’t some refrigerated warehouses that could be repurposed. So yeah this could well be a drama queen move.

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    • toomanymice says:

      They are probably going to reopen potter’s field which was recently closed to be turned into a park. Bodies from potter’s field, until very recently, were being handed off to medical schools without family consent.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      For God sake’s people, after what you’ve witnessed since Donald J. Trump began his run for the Presidency, why would you give this “report” any credence?

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  20. Charles Darwin says:

    The first order of business for state legislatures and city councils when this is over must be to RESCIND the dictatorial powers granted governors and mayors to negate constitutionaly granted freedoms of association and movement.

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    • dwpender says:

      Even more importantly, we must see that Federal Emergency Funding is never again used to support such actions by State Tyrants. Federal power — force if necessary — should be used to PROTECT citizens’ rights from such potentates, not to facilitate their totalitarian schemes.

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  21. Scrapiron says:

    We are told not to panic buy, then we are told not to shop for groceries for the next 2 weeks.
    President Trump is a germaphobe and they have convinced him to issue these warnings.
    I can’t take much more. I’m waiting for order from governors to close grocery stores.

    Is it time for me to run in circles with my hands up screaming?

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    • dwpender says:

      Clueless Birx and the others saying “now is not the time to go to the grocery store” are scaring grocery employees, and everyone still working behind them in the elaborate system of production, packaging, transportation, distribution and delivery, as well as customers.

      At what point does the incitement to panic/hysteria start to shut down the grocery stores, as well as the businesses behind them for lack of viable work forces?

      From the very beginning, the medical “experts” and the State Governors acting on their advice (way outside their area of expertise) have had NO IDEA what they’re doing.

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    • steph_gray says:

      President Trump did NOT tell anybody not to buy groceries.

      It was BricksForBrains who did.

      (I am doing my best to watch as much of each briefing as possible. The facts matter.)

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  22. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    STAY INSIDE!!!

    Coronavirus stay-at-home order in California has police giving citations to people watching sunset at beach

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-stay-at-home-order-california-police-sunset-beach-encinitas

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    • TJ says:

      The best place for your grandmother to be is a cold, dark, wet basement. /s

      -Indoor Staying During Winter Season Makes People More Susceptible to Flu.

      “Formulation of policy regarding vitamin D supplementation in diet for people such as elderly and with low sunlight exposure is hereby recommended. It will be beneficial to reduce influenza related morbidity and mortality during winter season.”

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27426715

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  23. Zy says:

    Joe Biden, well his handlers, are now bringing up the possibility of an “online convention”. They will spin it as the cautious lock down forever Democrats versus the uncaring Republications who will still be holding their convention. By August the Dems will look foolish.

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    • Bendix says:

      THey’d rather look foolish than risk the Bernie Bros setting fire to the Convention Center.
      This virus certainly has been helpful to anyone troubled by protestors, hasn’t it?

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  24. TJ says:

    “If It Bleeds It Leads”…is an old saying in journalism.

    -If It Bleeds, It Leads: Understanding Fear-Based Media

    “Fear-based news stories prey on the anxieties we all have and then hold us hostage.”
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/two-takes-depression/201106/if-it-bleeds-it-leads-understanding-fear-based-media

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  25. Bendix says:

    Bendix here. I think I just cracked code. Or rather, someone who shops a lot, used to work in retail cracked it for me.

    She had been mentioning her intention to go shop at Walmart. I told her what I had been hearing about the stores suddenly changing their policies, allowing fewer people in the stores, making certain products off limits, etc., just so she would be prepared for this if she went to our local stores.

    This morning, I happened to speak to her again. She hadn’t been to Walmart yet. I was musing about what would make a store like Walmart cave to political pressure or whatever, at the expense of its customers, and I speculated at just who is applying pressure, and why.

    Her answer was simple. The other businesses that have been shut down no doubt will have been complaining that Walmart gets to stay open selling many of the same items they do.

    We the consumers will never hear a word of this. We will just be given the impression that, gee, maybe tis thing is more serious than we thought.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Or, like the rest of us, we will go to the other stores who have no limit on how many are inside.
      Look for Walmart to start lobbying for all stores to follow their lead, especially when Walmart starts losing gobs of money.

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      • Sharon says:

        Exactly. Whatever I normally get at Walmart, I can get at either Walgreen’s or Safeway.

        I have never agreed to be treated as a potential detainee in my life, and I’m sure not going to start now.

        After I stopped at Walgreen’s this morning, I drove through the Walmart parking lot a few blocks away just to check out what was happening.

        I don’t think they have to worry about their stores being overcrowded. I’ve never seen the parking lot so empty at any time on a weekday. If they were worried about too many people being in the store, I think they just solved the problem.

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    • Bucknutguy says:

      LOL. I had the same thought last night. Our Hobby Lobby is right next door to a Target. Target sells many of the same goods as Hobby Lobby, yet HL was forced to close and Target was not because it sells food too. I commented to a friend that HL needs to add a single food isle for the next go around. Or a candy counter or some such.

      The “essential business” definition was arbitrary and capricious and hope a somewhat deep pocketed entity like Hobby Lobby sues the living daylights out of our state. They did to help take down Obamacare.

      As an aside: central ohio is a hub of retail HQs. The Victoria Secret distributions centers remained opened and fully functional to fulfill web orders. Nothing says “essential business” like women’s underwear and scented candles.

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    • Nick the Deplorable says:

      I went to Sams club Saturday morning. There were about 500 people in line (most wearing masks and gloves) and they had police to enforce the 6′ rule. I got back in my car and drove to Publix. No line no masks no gloves and everything was normal.

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      • Bendix says:

        I’m remembering which supermarket chains treated their customers with respect, and which allowed them to become enforcers for The Man.

        No, we don’t need masks in public. We were told they don’t work, now we are being tol we need them.
        Every outbreak in China, that’s all you see, people running around with masks on. If it doesn’t help there, it doesn’t help here.

        If it was really important, the MSM would have been using them.

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  26. CM-TX says:

    Well it looks like not even a “virus,” or “social-distancing” for that matter, can stop shootings in Chicago… who knew?!🙄

    | 2 killed, 18 wounded in Chicago weekend shootings |

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/4/6/21207898/chicago-weekend-shootings-gun-violence-april-3-6

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    • Bendix says:

      Statistically, they should all be sick in bed with the virus by now. They ignore social distancing.
      If you were to go into one of those neighborhoods (don’t), you would not see paper face masks either.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      The ultimate ‘social distancing’. “Chicago Distancing” = Shoot anyone you can get close enough to see.
      Flattens the curve on chinese virus deaths.

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  27. sarasotosfan says:

    It is a fact that the absolute humidity increases with temperature. Why is this important?

    Humid air is denser air. This is why the viruses die off in spring and summer and re-emerge in the fall and winter.

    Denser air reduces the air transmission between people through sneezing, coughing, talking or breathing.

    This means the transmission will tend to be higher inside the store than, say, standing in line outside the store if it is not cold and dry outside.

    This is another reason why facial coverings inside stores is important. More important than social distancing.

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    • wondering999 says:

      That would be another argument for the “Forest Kindergartens”, outdoor schools that allow children to run, play and experiment in all kinds of weather under basic adult supervision… and which have remarkably lower disease rates. Kindergarteners are loaded with boogers and bacteria. Their teachers often get sick just like the kids — but not in the outdoor schools:
      http://schoolsoutfilm.com/

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    • DiogeneseVindicated says:

      Jane you I.S.;
      Air becomes less dense at warmer temperatures. Humidity does not offset completely. Humidity is suspended droplets of water somewhat larger than oxygen and nitrogen gas molecules but of significant size to an interact with an intact virus unit. Some humidity exists as free water vapor molecules each of which have a north-south plus-minus polarity which can ‘stick’ to polar features on the virus structure and ‘weigh it down’. This is the mechanism for attenuating virus transmission in air.

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  28. Don McAro says:

    President Trump should now be wearing a mask whenever he is doing a press Conference or anytime is goes out now…. Don’t use a hospital Mask that would cause a stir……He should Be wearing A Home made MAGA Mask…… MAGA right across his mouth and nose…

    you want to see the media explode…ANd I mean nuclear explode…..And put them up for sale too..

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    • If President Trump does wear a mask, please let it be this one.

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    • BeauGeste says:

      All the so-called ‘jornolists’ should be wearing masks, to protect the President, VP and others, and to be an “Example” teaching others by their model.

      We need to see what acosta looks like in a mask – obviously a much better look for viewers.

      The prestitutes also should be visibly wiping any microphone they talk into or touch, also as a teaching example. (remember the NBA players who likely go the virus from microphones?

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  29. Bogeyfree says:

    I’d really like to see a thread by Sundance titled……….

    Was this crisis intentional and leveraged??

    IMO there is mounting evidence to this and PT has a duty to look into this once this is all over.

    So I ask the question, IF this crisis was intentional and/or leveraged to harm PT, the economy and destroy jobs in advance of the Nov election, would not that be an act of terror?

    So if leveraged and we know the DS is so well organized especially with their talking points, surely there must be some type of communication vehicle that they use daily right?

    This IMO is where I hope PT begins and with the arrest of that Harvard professor and the Logan Act allegations does that open the door to a couple FISA warrants that would allow looking backwards on all parties communications to include phone, email, text etc?

    If so this would also allow for the 2 hop rule so the digging and looking back would include people who they spoke too.

    With all the frauds that the DS has pulled on PT and the American people I hope there is a movement that encourages PT, once the virus is behind us that he does a very deep dive and looks to make sure this whole thing was simply an accident or not.

    This IMO is where Sundance and a dedicated thread could come in handy to help build this movement and call for investigation.

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    • dawg says:

      “…..once this is all over.”

      Its hard for me to even contemplate that point in time considering we arent getting any word of when that is, even from the administration.

      I havent even watched the briefings the last few days. Is there any sign that PT knows whats going on?

      PT and the surgeon general are both telling us the next week or two could be “really bad” or some such nonsense.

      Dont they know the CDC is just labeling almost every death as CV whether it was a cause or not????

      The CDC just changed the death code guidelines on March 24th, and it coincides with the jump up in “CV deaths”.

      This thing has all the signs of a manufactured crisis and thus far, I havent seen any real sign that President Trump even gets it.

      Im sorry but Ive lost a ton of faith in President Trump. Call me an eyeore or troll or ROLCON or whatever, but Im just calling it like I see it.

      I swear if Fauci is at the briefing today, Im totally checking out.

      In God We Trust.

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  30. jeans2nd says:

    Dr Peter Navarro, in charge of Getting-All-Things-Where-They-Are-Sposed-To-Be re: CCP Virus and supply chains, talked with Fox & Friends this morning.

    Ignore the vid title. Dr Facisti was overruled. Another nothing-burger.

    Around the 6 minute mark, Dr Navarro explains the supply chains, and how the Production Powers Act is used to facilitate production and delivery of All-Things-Needed to the CCP Virus hot zones.
    The NY-NJ area is the current focus.

    All these media and Big Gubmint people think people like Dr Navarro are rubes, Deplorables like the rest of us.
    Dr Navarro is a Harvard-trained economist, tenured full professor at one of those snooty California Hotbeds-Of-Socialism, who has spent years refining his responses to the Elite Students and the Smugnorant-Politically-Correct. The guy is the creme-de-la-creme. imo 10:34

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  31. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Hmmmmm.

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    • Bendix says:

      This also explained why people in NYC aren’t objecting to having their loved ones, only presumed to have Wuhan flu, but not tested, transferred a two and one half hour trip away to Albany Medical Center, rather than tested and perhaps put on that hospital ship.
      Under the wonderful Obamacare, someone just as sick will get enormous bills if they don’t have the virus.
      This isn’t good medicine, good government, good anything.

      BTW, yes, employees are taking supplies at Albany Medical Center.

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      • WSB says:

        Yikes, had not heard that we are lifting these people up to Albany?

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        • Bendix says:

          Yes, and other upstate hospitals.
          When hospitals postponed anything they could postpone, and then did not get the expected surge in COVID patients, they weren’t bringing in any money. NYC is crowded, we have capacity, hospitals need money.
          They are even brining in assumed COVID cases. Even NFP hospitals have to make money, as they have to pay bills.

          This tells me the sudden surge in cases we were told we would see isn’t expected to happen.

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  32. Dan Dan says:

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Add “celebrities” and ‘sports’ with million$-to-hundreds-of-million$ incomes, as “nonessential”, distractions.

      You can’t exchange your season ticket for a roll of toilet paper. Your stupid TV and movie stars’ opinions on medicine and politics are clearly exposed as worthless-to-harmful.

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  33. Dan Dan says:

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  34. Dan Dan says:

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  35. WeThePeople2016 says:

    A precedent has been set.

    Liked by 4 people

  36. rondo123456 says:

    Corona Meltdowns
    “As the coronavirus outbreak begins to reach its zenith, it remains unclear whether the measures taken to stem its tide will prove sufficient, insufficient, or an overreaction. What is certain, however, is that a number of individuals and entities have behaved shamefully and demonstrated no capacity for leadership or usefulness in this moment.”

    https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/05/corona-meltdowns/

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    • wondering999 says:

      Bears repeating, especially in front of Pelosi, Schumer and their followers: “What is certain, however, is that a number of individuals and entities have behaved shamefully and demonstrated no capacity for leadership or usefulness in this moment.”

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  37. Lady in Red says:

    No words. What a disgusting human being to put this out there.

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    • Don McAro says:

      Sorry aint buying in…In NYC on a regular day…a person dies every 8 minutes…what are they doing with those bodies

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      • Bendix says:

        An increase in unexpected deaths could cause a slowdown in the time it takes to claim a body, but this guy is talking as if there will be no bodies going out as new ones come in.
        That is ridiculously false.
        The use of the word “soon” implies something that is definitely going to happen, they already have the plans underway.
        This is some sort of an emergency contingency plan, not what they will do.
        These bodies are not the property of government to do with as they wish, they are human beings who were loved.
        This ghoul should be disciplined for even saying such a thing.
        If someone I loved was in the morgue, I would find this creep and punch him in the face, HARD.
        What a weirdo. There is no other way to say it.

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    • Nick the Deplorable says:

      That is nothing. Hospitals in FL are just leaving the dead on the roof for the vultures.

      I totally just made that up just like Mark Levine.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Jeffrey407 says:

      Does anyone have stats on daily March NYC deaths in recent years since non-Covid deaths have dropped precipitously? Something doesn’t add up re: morgue capacity.

      Liked by 2 people

    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      Just step over them…nobody will even notice in NYC

      Liked by 1 person

    • Bendix says:

      As we speak, coronavirus cases are being diverted to hospitals elsewhere in NY, so I have to assume that any new deaths among those patents will be handled by the morgues associated with those hospitals.

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    • Paprika says:

      Well now, I’m sure bodies are stacking up in morgues and funeral homes. That is to be expected when folks are not allowed to gather to hold church or burial services or take care of business. Is the clerk of court (or whomever is responsible) even at work to issue the many certified death certificates one needs?

      Now how many of the bodies stacked up are due to COVID is a whole ‘nuther’ subject. And the whole “nuttery” crap about mass burials in a park is ridiculous!

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      • steph_gray says:

        Actually I seriously doubt bodies are stacking at all in NYC or anywhere.

        The actual ChiComLab death numbers are a teensy fraction of car accident deaths in a normal time.

        But car accident deaths have logically greatly decreased, because so many fewer people are out driving.

        People here were posting a few days ago that overall NYC deaths were lower for the period.

        I suspect that this single statistic accounts for it.

        And no, I’m NOT suggesting we need to stop driving cars! In fact I want to see everywhere with just as many cars as we had a scant two months ago. Let the economy thrive again.

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  38. rondo123456 says:

    Careful, dispassionate analysis is totally lacking in coronavirus panic

    “The panic is being fueled by irresponsible, uninformed, stupid, and sensationalized media coverage, along with politically motivated scare commentary. I read somewhere, for example, that now New York has had more deaths from the Wuhan virus than from the 9/11 attacks. So what? New York may also have had more deaths during the same period than from 9/11 anyway, as a result of annual flu or from heart attacks and strokes.”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/careful_dispassionate_analysis_is_totally_lacking_in_coronavirus_panic.html

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  39. Garavaglia says:

    Cuomo just stated there is anecdotal evidence the malaria treatment is working and that is why they are continuing to use it. Trump will lay waste to CDC and media today. Also, he stated that there has been no loss of life due to lack of equipment, supplies, or staff.

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  40. MaineCoon says:

    FTA: Dr. Anthony Fauci has a $100 million conflict of interest which is why he was opposing Trump. He is in league with Bill Gates who has pledged $100 million for Fauci to play with. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID, a division of National Institutes of Health, NIH) director Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was against using chloroquine, said in an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, “There’s no magic drug for coronavirus right now,” and lectured, “Let me put it into perspective for the viewers .. there has been anecdotal non-proven data that it [chloroquine] works… but when you have an uncontrolled trial you can never definitely say that it works.”

    I have warned that the CDC takes private money through its foundation. Gates even gave CDC Foundation $13.5 million. I do not believe we can trust Fauci in the least. The CDC nor the NIH should NEVER be allowed to be bought in this way. It is Gates who wants to inject us all with microchips. I seriously do not understand if all his money has simply gone to his head.

    Trump should fire Fauci first and secondly shut down all private donations from anyone, especially Bill Gates. This is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY. Gates should be investigated and all his connections. Anyone who sold all their stocks and bonds just in advance should be hauled out for Insider Trading. But these people typically also OWN the SEC. Trump needs to appoint a Special Prosecutor and never someone from New York City.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/did-bill-gates-buy-the-cdc/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

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    • Sharon says:

      Why won’t Gates vaccinate his spawn?

      Liked by 1 person

    • maggie0987 says:

      MaineCoon – The other thing with Gates is he will want to keep sweet with China so that he can explore his ideas on nuclear energy being a viable opportunity. (which it could well be).

      China will allow him to experiment and research unfettered without the environmental restrictions etc which would be invoked if he did the research in the US. After all, the technology for checking this out is probably US made and will then end up in China because of Gates! And, the US regulations will have been imposed by people such as Gates’ nutty, greeny wife, Melinda.

      These people are truly ‘one worlders’ and have no specific affinity with or for the USA.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      The CDC is incompetent and corrupt. It should have been testing and developing cheap drugs since the last SARS outbreaks. Promising drugs and leads were, and are well-known. The CDC has known the potential for a SARS pandemic for years, but rejects cheap drug treatment to moderate, and prevent SARS infection.
      Other countries with less resources have responded with drug use and development, but not our big-Pharma co-opted CDC. A cheap drug treatment based on hydroxychloroquinone, ivermectin, and/or cepharanthine, or optimized derivatives thereof, at 15 cents per treatment, is not what our CDC finds desirable. Andif the CDC developed it, there would be no patent to jack up the price to astronomical heights. (recall that Hep C treatment can cost $100,000 !!!)
      The CDC needs to be cleaned out, disinfected, and restarted with unconflicted people who put US Citizens first. Make CDC Great Again….

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  41. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  42. Sharon says:

    Weather war derivatives, pandemics – there is really nothing that the elites won’t bet on in the stock market.

    Liked by 1 person

    • thedoc00 says:

      Reminds me of going to an English Premier League soccer game, when I was there on business. The company I supported had access to the “club room” and one of the first things I was handed was a 2-page betting form that had a wager (with odds) for practically any event you can name occurring during the game.

      Then again for the Sci-Fi folks, there is the Star Trek episode The Gamesters of Triskelion… “I bet 1 million quot-loons”.

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    • Mad Mike says:

      Hmmmm… Very interesting… some excerpts from an World Bank article from 2017:

      “The PEF will provide more than $500 million to cover developing countries against the risk of pandemic outbreaks over the next five years, through a combination of bonds and derivatives priced today, a cash window, and future commitments from donor countries for additional coverage.”

      “The transaction, that enables PEF to potentially save millions of lives, was oversubscribed by 200% reflecting an overwhelmingly positive reception from investors and a high level of confidence in the new World Bank sponsored instrument.

      ‘With this new facility, we have taken a momentous step that has the potential to save millions of lives and entire economies from one of the greatest systemic threats we face,’ World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim said. ‘We are moving away from the cycle of panic and neglect that has characterized so much of our approach to pandemics.'”

      “The PEF covers six viruses that are most likely to cause a pandemic. These include new Orthomyxoviruses (new influenza pandemic virus A), Coronaviridae (SARS, MERS), Filoviridae (Ebola, Marburg) and other zoonotic diseases (Crimean Congo, Rift Valley, Lassa fever).”

      “PEF financing to eligible countries will be triggered when an outbreak reaches predetermined levels of contagion, including number of deaths; the speed of the spread of the disease; and whether the disease crosses international borders. The determinations for the trigger are made based on publicly available data as reported by the World Health Organization (WHO).”

      https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2017/06/28/world-bank-launches-first-ever-pandemic-bonds-to-support-500-million-pandemic-emergency-financing-facility

      Thanks for learning me some new stuff, Sharon!

      I did read that Jim Yong Kim stepped down as President of the World Bank in Feb 2019, with the job going to described “Trump loyalist” David Malpass.

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  43. Dan Dan says:

    ICYMI – FYI Illegal Border Crossings Collapse to Near Zero

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    • Bendix says:

      They don’t need to cross, our government will arrange to have their relief checks sent to their hometowns.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Remember AMLO is a “socialist” government also they closed their borders to (cough cough) Gringo immigrants.

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    • JCM800 says:

      Silver Lining Dan!
      Emergency E-Verify Audit will be embraced by a Majority of Unemployed Citizens.
      Disregard the Defeatists and force Businesses to modify their Model employing only Verified US Citizens.

      Americans Only

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  44. Dan Dan says:

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    • Sharon says:

      It appears we are giving our freedoms up…

      We are at WAR right now – taking place in the form of bio weaponry AND underground.

      Those cartels didn’t hire themselves.

      This is what has been going on in the DUMBS across the globe and where our military has been training for the past two years:

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  45. FPCHmom says:

    Great column – right on and funny –

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  46. Garavaglia says:

    On his way out..Cuomo says “we don’t need any additional ventilators, we have what we need”. My opinion: the treatment is kicking ass

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  47. Lucille says:

    Biden Calls for Lifting Sanctions and Providing “Humanitarian Relief” for Iran Amid Coronavirus Pandemic
    April 6, 2020 10:00 AM By Hugh Fitzgerald

    Joe Biden has called for the American government to lift sanctions on Iran so that the Islamic Republic might be able to cope better with the coronavirus outbreak, by having enough money to buy masks, gowns, gloves, testing equipment, ventilators, and other medical equipment. Biden does not go as far as his rival Bernie Sanders, who has called for a much broader sanctions relief that would last not only during the entire time of the outbreak but continue even after the coronavirus had ended.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/04/biden-calls-for-lifting-sanctions-and-providing-humanitarian-relief-for-iran-amid-coronavirus-pandemic

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    • Bendix says:

      Good old Bernie. People in Vermont claiming they aren’t being allowed to buy seeds, and he’s worrying about Iran
      Watch, this reset will include massive debt relief for corporations, a few dollars for the little people forced out of work by the government, and anyone who is paying about a third again of the principle on a student loan will get to postpone repayment while interest piles up, for a month or two.
      Bernie yelled about student loan debt during his fake runs for president, but what did he actually do about it while he’s been in office?

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    • Paprika says:

      We have never stopped providing funding and supplies for humanitarian relief for Iran.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        We were even allowed to sell Iran medical equipment that used sub components that have been banned. (Turbo molecular vacuum pumps.) DHS and FBI paid us a visit first. But they did permit the sale.

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    • dawg says:

      Im waiting for someone to call for the American government to lift sanctions on the America.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      PDJT oficially offered medical help to iran. Iran refused. But slow-joe can’t remember anything over a day or 2.
      Case closed, slow-joe

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