April 5th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1172

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1,279 Responses to April 5th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1172

  1. Linda K. says:

    I live in Northern California and I don’t know anybody with this virus. That said, I realize it is a problem elsewhere and the very real public perception that it is a crisis may bear fruit in the next week or so. However, Trump should use this to bring pharma and essential business back home from China. Mandatory. He should get the wall built. Get those workers going now. Borders have become essential. Some of the changes brought about by this crisis are good. Kids and moms are home and homeschooling. Never let a crisis go to waste.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/04/trump-should-use-the-pandemic-to-his-and-americas-advantage/

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    • Bendix says:

      They haven’t actually done anything concrete about the drugs.
      As ever, all edicts from government only apply to us, ordinary citizens, and not to the 1%.

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  2. It’s not enough that we are virtually under house arrest.
    Now we’re not going to be allowed to go grocery shopping?? WTF?
    Unless these fascist bastards are stopped and stopped soon, there is going to be a reckoning.
    It is imperative that President Trump end the Lockdown by Easter.
    It is obvious that this fiasco has become an excuse for the Marxist Commies or whatever name you want to call the Left Dems, to seize the Power. They are going full out Stalin and Mao.
    Millions are going to die from the takeover, not from the Chinese Flu.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/05/white-house-americans-should-avoid-grocery-stores-as-coronavirus-hits-apex/

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    • Ausonius says:

      Amen! This has caused a new surge in panic buying, just when it was starting to seem half-way normal again!

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    • Linda K. says:

      That’s right Seneca. The grocery stores are still making money. Shut them down! She is shameless and such comments regarding food supply will start a panic.

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      • Linda K.- I too thought that things had settled down a bit to a level that was at least tolerable having some of the grocery and other stores open as they are.
        But noooooo- we are not to be allowed any relief. They have to keep the panic and hysteria fully stoked so when they put us under complete house arrest, we’ll understand.
        F*** these bastards. I am not at all afraid of this virus. My primary emotion is not fear, it is RAGE. Red hot rage at that.
        I am sure I’m not the only one either.
        When you have nothing left to lose, all bets are off. I am not going down without a fight.

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  3. Bogeyfree says:

    So I say again and again…..

    The US was given over 35,000,000 tablets of hydroxychloroquine from Sandoz, Novartis and Teva alone.

    We have 275,000 infected people.

    So how about this Mr. President

    1) Provide to every one infected who can medically take the hydroxychloroquine, z-pack and zinc regime for 5 days as Dr. Zelenko did.

    2) that uses up 1,375,000 of the pills leaving 33,625,000 available tablets (assuming the US had none before the 3 Pharmaceuticals gift.)

    3) so now you have aggressively attacked those who have the virus today

    4) quarantine the 5-6 hot spots for 3 weeks while the first wave of treatment does it work

    5) continue with strict in and out rules at nursing homes for 4 weeks and ensure they have access to hydroxychloroquine as necessary

    6) ask the retired seniors 70 and up, to stay at home for the next 2-3 weeks

    7) allow hydroxychloroquine to be dispensed with a script AND a positive COVID-19 test result to CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, grocery chain pharmacy’s as normal.

    8) give the above a 10 day head start then tell everyone else we go back to work in 10 days.

    9) Fire Fauci and Birx and replace with non DC medic experts such as Dr. Stephan Smith and others.

    10) Finally, via EO appoint a SC to investigate all COVID -19 deaths to ensure there was no fraud in how these people really died. Use this same SC to look back at all communications via the NSA meta data to ensure this was not a planned or leveraged event, as an act of terror, carried out by specific people and groups and who talked about this last summer/fall before there was any corona there there.

    It is time Mr. President to stop listening to these so called experts and begin listening to NON DC people and your gut!

    This common sense approach will save lives, end the crisis sooner, save jobs and the economy and expose the people and groups who either planned this or used this crisis to harm Americans and this country.

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    • Free Speech says:

      11) Tell the DOJ to do their job and lock up these heinous ghouls Soros and Gates for stealing taxpayer money to fund their Luciferian depopulation and enslavement schemes.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      If you like this common sense approach you can easily copy and paste it and send it to PT at http://www.whitehouse.gov

      Maybe if we get 1,000 or so submissions it might actually get to PT and becomes something he truly considers.

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    • Medicine Man says:

      Combo would need a baseline EKG..is what they are doing in the hospitals treating COVID-19 patients (I work closely with them).

      Henry Ford in Detroit is doing a study in prevention with just hydrochlorquine though.

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  4. Fromseatoshinningsea says:

    My Suggestions:

    1. PDJT establishes a task force to determine the phase-in for re-opening the economy, not later than early June for re-open in healthier regions. Group consists of medical/health/epidemiologists not controlled/loyal to global/DNC/China/BIg Pharm interests; business people & public educators. Honest folks. This eliminates two of the three stooges: Fauci & Brix

    2. Task force circulates concept of “Re-set”. Underlying docs: mortgages, leases, etc, shall be re-set, obligations during crisis months rescinded/suspended. Foreclosures/defaults waived

    3. Get Hydroxychloroquine Z pack cocktail into the population ASAP. This helps guard for the return next flu season

    4. Re-organize the CDC, alter their assessment of the flu vaccine. They are either grossly incompetent having missed this year’s formulation or complicit, knowing that Wuhan was coming and flu statistics could be merged iin. Either way they failed us, put us at risk; they didn’t fail their masters.

    5. Help out South & Central America during their winter from a distance. Close off travel. Not sure how to handle produce coming in.  There has to be a way. 

    6. China pays. Re-set the debt to China based on the damage they caused us, include Cares Act & Payroll Protection costs. Whether China did this as a planned attack or lies/argues it was accidental is not an issue, they are responsible either way. This might set off a trade war. So be it, will only accelerate return of the manufacturing/Research & Development base they stole illegally through the Clinton Crime wave or the Fraud with the previously issued social security number.

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  5. Charles Darwin says:

    U.S. coronavirus death toll today is reported at 8,452, which is .000024 (twenty four thousandths of a percent) of our national population, up from twenty one thousandths of a percent yesterday. “The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many” should be our new national motto.

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    • MfM says:

      And how many of those really weren’t the Wuhan Virus? Candice Owen’s has done a video about the death of the infant in Connecticut.

      She obviously got a heads up from someone that it was perhaps an accident not anything to do with Covid 19.

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      • vikingmom says:

        In Washington State we are just over 300 deaths from COVID-19 but, “coincidentally” our deaths from regular influenza are less than half what they normally are at this point in the flu season…and King County. where the majority of deaths have occurred will not publish ANY info as to age/co-morbitities of the deceased.

        If we actually had a functioning media in our country, they might be looking into how many of the deaths in their area that are attributed to COVID might, in fact, be completely unrelated! I highly doubt that the story Candace Owens uncovered is the only one that was “mislabeled”!

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        • Reserved55 says:

          “Presumed or probable ”

          It’s not just the U.S., it’s worldwide. Italy recently admitted only 12% were actually WuFlu.

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          • TarsTarkas says:

            12% where Kung Flu was the primary cause of death. The other 88% Kung Flu moved up the expiration date, some by a lot, most by a little. Sorry if that sounds heartless. However I am also reading where up to 20 million Italians are estimated to have or had had it, which brings the death rate down closer to what other nations have been experiencing outside China, whose data cannot be trusted at all.

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      • Mary Van Deusen says:

        I hate it when I think I’m going conspiracy-theorist, but I’m wondering if the CDC regulation was put forward by someone hoping to max the death numbers to use as ammunition against Trump.

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/fraud-per-cdc-regulations-death-omaha-man-80s-hospice-care-several-underlying-conditions-determined-covid-19-infection/

        A man in his 80s, had several underlying conditions and was receiving hospice care, according to Douglas County, but authorities determined that the COVID-19 infection was his leading, or “acute,” cause of death.

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        • bessie2003 says:

          It could be a combination of wanting to use big death numbers as ammunition against Pres. Trump along with the hope that the Federal govt will reimburse the States and/or the hospitals with money for ‘having to cope with so many covid deaths’. A two’fer, blame the political opponent and make money doing it.

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  6. CTH Fan says:

    This forum has now become Corona Virus Central. None stop 24 hours a day. Surely there must be other important news out there. This particular section is supposed to be centered around the Presidency.

    We have Congress gearing up for another impeachment but that news is bumped by the COVID-19. How convenient.

    Stay safe everyone and stay focused. Please give yourselves some relief and discuss other things as well as the virus.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Good point so it’s time to repost the infamous AG Barr and Durham batting average in bringing equal justice to the land.

      This AG Barr, is why so many Americans are pissed off.

      So let’s recap all of the “incidents” that have occurred over the past few years and you tell me if truth and justice is paramount anymore and if there isn’t a two tier system of justice within DC!

      1) Uranium One – No Crimes, No Indictments
      2) Hammer 47 Hard Drives – No Crimes, No Indictments
      3) Anwan Brothers – No Crimes, No Indictments
      4) HRC Unsecured Server & 33K Emails – No Crimes, No Indictments
      5) Wiener Laptop Email Contents – No Crimes, No Indictments (outside Wiener)
      6) DNC Server Hack – Alleged Crime, No Indictments
      7) Seth Rich murder – No arrests
      8) Fake Dossier and fraud on FISA Court 4 times – No Crimes, No Indictments
      9) Years of FISA Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
      10) Years of FIB Contractor Abuse – No Crimes, No Indictments
      11) Carter Page FISA Leak – No Crime for Leaking (just one count lying)
      12) Numerous other Classified Leaks – No Crimes, No Indictments
      13) Numerous referrals to DOJ – No Crimes, No Indictments
      14) Numerous Agents violating policy – No Crimes, No Indictments
      15) Ukraine WB fraud – No Crimes, No Indictments
      16) Impeachment Fraud and made up narrative by House Leader – No Crimes, No Indictments
      17) Ukraine Money Laundering – No Crimes, No Indictments
      18) Epstein – No Crimes, No indictments
      19. Withholding and then losing exculpatory evidence and records in the General Flynn case

      Seriously, look at this list and virtually NOTHING from our Government!
      I’m not sure it is even statistically possible but here it is.

      I think as more and more Americans see lists like these coupled with the lists of their people who got a pass vs the conservatives who did get indicted, they clearly see the bias and injustice.

      The American people see and now know, so what’s it going to be Mr. Barr, truth and equal justice or just more of the same BS?

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      • Dutchman says:

        Bogeyfree,
        Thanks for the reminder. I would just add, given your long list, can anyone point to ANY actions, by Republicon leadership, particularly in the Senate, to address this glaring lack of actions?

        Any legislation passed, or even proposed? Any OVERSIGHT hearings, to “get to the bottom of it”???

        Empty promises from Graham, vague and unsubstantiated expressions of hope that “Durham is investigating, and will have a report out by summer” …

        NOTHING of substance. Such lack of activity sends a clear message; Republicon leadership SUPPORTS the ongoing,…can’t really say “coverup”, cause its “all out there”, but CAN definetly say ongoing effort to insure there is NO accountability.

        In fact, look at what Republicon leadership HAS done;
        Spoken as one voice, saying ;
        “Mueller is an HONORABLE man, his investigation MUST continue!”
        Graham even introduced legislation to prohibit PDJT from firing Mueller, before withdrawing it when it was pointed out to him it was UnConstitutional.

        Appointing Barr, who to all but those in major denial, is obviously a cleaner.

        Initiating a phoney ethics investigation against Nunes, forcing him to temporarily step down as Chairman of House committee most vigorously investigating, until after House majority had flipped.

        Manipulating the 2018 midterm election, to insure that Dems would get majority in House, so they could persue impeachment, and Nunes’s efforts would be derailed.

        The ONLY conclusion one can reasonably reach, IMHO, is that Republicon leadership in Congress DO NOT WANT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY. for the Muh Russia coup.

        Their inaction on persuing investigation, as well as their actions to block any accountability make this clear.

        THEY are the enemy, THEY are tje reason there has been no accountability, and so long as they remain, it is very difficult to see how there WILL be accountability.

        Mind you, the recent moves, of Grinnell, Patel. Ratcliffe and the new IG are some reason for hope, but they are IMHO, moves to circumvent, or go around not only Barr/Durham, but to get around the blocking actions of Republicon leadership in CONgress.

        So, point your rage at the source of the resistance, not just at the convenient target.

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        • Bogeyfree says:

          I’d add that back in Nov 2019 Nate Cain a Registered whistleblower provided over 400 pages of information on the CF, U1 to Barr and I believe Wray and Horowitz and so far the only thing that came from it was they raided is house, his sisters house and I believe held him or at least his possessions for 2 months.

          You never hear Ag Barr explain this and what happened to that evidence just like the 47 hard drives, the Wiener Laptop, the HRC Server, the Mifsud phones.

          IMO it reeks and AG Barr, Wray and Horowitz should be replaced immediately.

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          • Dutchman says:

            I don’t believe Barr has even attempted to explain his lack of action on ANY of this, other than pointing at Durham, and muh ongoing investigations.

            I have been expecting for some time that Barr and Durham have a best by date tattoed on their forehead, or perhaps their ass (same thing?) of Nov.4th, 2020.

            Reading the DJT letter, firing IG Atkinson, he points out he has full authority to fire ANY Senate confirmed appointee.

            He didn’t HAVE to point that out, so thought it was interesting.

            Also, while PDJT has been a little dismissive of WH traditions he thought silly, like sighning a bill using as many pens as possible, to hand out,…there is ONE WH tradition I hope he embraces.

            Soon after reelection, POTUS’S call a cabinet meeting. The POTUS expresses his gratitude to the cabinet, touts their achievements during first term, and steps out.

            Then, the Chief of Staff requests they all give him written resignations, by end of day.

            That way, the POTUS isn’t FIRING anyone; they RESIGNED. He is simply asking some to stay on, or refusing to accept their resignations.
            On the one hand, its a silly distinction without a difference.

            It enables a reelected POTUS to clean House, while keeping up appearances. I am sure Meadows, as Chief of Staff, KNOWS of this tradition.

            So, am expecting and hoping Barr and Wray, at the very least, will not be asked to stay on, and their letters of resignation will be accepted.

            The real roadblock and issue is and will continue to be McConnell and the Republicons.

            In the Second term, they simply MUST be dealt with.

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            • Bubby says:

              AG Barr is a slug.

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              • Dutchman says:

                He’s doing EXACTLY what his true BOSS, who detirmined if he would GET the job, detirmines the BUDGET for his Department, and salary of him and those under him, wants him to do.
                Which is to be a slug. And yes, his boss is McConnell.

                Notice when he came back from europe, his debriefing was by Graham, McConnells #1 Biotch? No coincidence, that.

                So. BARR IS a slug, but he is Juist vollowink ORDERS; and it is McConnell telling him to sit on ALL this.

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      • Doppler says:

        Bogeyfree, my response got placed at the bottom of the thread. Please check it out.

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    • dwpender says:

      OK. As BiilyBob would say:

      Anybody indicted today?

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    • James F says:

      So post something else.

      Nobody is stopping you but you chose to post about corona concern instead.

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    • Magabear says:

      I would say that a virus (more the reaction to it) that has the chance to derail this Presidency is very much relevant. What other event has people locked inside their homes indefinately and is destroying their bank accounts?

      But yeah, maybe we should have a WuFlu thread devoted to just that. But that’s up to the mods.

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      • Mary Van Deusen says:

        The problem with a separate thread is that it would be quickly lost in the dust of yesterday and we’d be back to posting new information on common threads. I agree that the Potus thread is the right place to put the corona information because it all affects him and he affects it.

        Whether we would or wouldn’t, the history books are going to have a major part of his paragraphs devoted to this virus and his actions. WHEN he wins us through this, whether liberal historians note it or not, it will be because we were lucky enough to have the best man in the right post at the most dangerous time. The POTUS thread is where I’d instinctively go to find out about coronavirus.

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    • farmerren says:

      Fan,
      Here’s something different than the CV and provided me some “relief” and refreshment.

      Just finished worshiping God with the POTUS!
      Not accustomed to that even though I bet there have been times when we both prayed at the same time.

      Sunnyflowers has POTUS’ tweet up/down stream here I so won’t be redundant.
      It was a good sermon.

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  7. islandpalmtrees says:

    Well, it seems to me that the race is on – what will kill us first, the Economy or Covid19?

    Someone will say the Economy is not a disease – but the results will likely be the same, if the Economy is not restarted, very soon.

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  8. flova says:

    Trailer from 2009 movie Carriers. I would change the meme from ‘the only thing more dangerous than the disease is Fauci, Birx and the Media.”

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  9. jeans2nd says:

    Maria B, speaking just now with Steve Bannon who is a Harvard-trained Goldman Sachs trader who loves nothing more the sound of his own voice and to whom no one ever should listen, said China imported some 2 billion PPEs from the U.S. in Jan 2020, before China told the word about the CCP Virus.

    This was news to me. Were you all aware? Doggone, somehow China must be held more accountable now than ever. China is selling those PPEs to countries who desperately need them now.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Oh yes, Bannon says the Fed Gubmint must take over, shut down the entire country including all air and car travel, and quarantine people in their homes for at least 30 days.

      And Bannon says the Chinese Communist Party is bad?
      Think of the precedents this would set for the next totalitarian Socialist democrat we are stupid enough to elect as Prez.

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    • WSB says:

      Yes, that was an eye popper. Easily traceable.

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    • Charles Darwin says:

      Bannon is a self-proclaimed “expert” on everything and an ultra drama queen. Has the guy ever had an unspoken thought? President was wise to “let him go” a long time ago.

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    • booger71 says:

      Go to Michelle Malkins website. She had a story about it and I linked it yesterday on one of the threads.

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    • annieoakley says:

      A neighbor who works for a medical supply company told me the company received calls from local Chinese using Google Translate or had their children call and order thousands of masks and gloves in January. They shipped their orders to China (home). Remember China is a developing Country so it is cheap to send by the USPS to China but expensive from China to the US.

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Bannon never even acknowledged the specific question of the 2 billion masks.

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    • mimbler says:

      Sounds extremely, extremely, unlikely to me considering they are all made in China.

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    • Bigly says:

      I’ve listened to every podcast Bannon has produced since January.

      The man has a position at the table – it’s not an unreasonable position – half ass measures will not work, according to Bannon – as the economy is not sustained if we go past 30 days.

      Steve is a hard core general against the CCP – he has extensive knowledge and his objective is to rise up after this attack and be able to defeat the CCP with economic and geopolitical strength.

      His tactic is shut everything down hard at the national level – then open everything up on May 1, hell or high water.

      I totally agree with the man. And he interviews the best and brightest day in and day out. He takes his position while presenting other smart and highly informed positions/officials.

      If you’re not listening to Bannon, and just flying off “this sucks, the globalists are taking over” and all that – you do so at an uninformed position as there is no denying shutting everything down hard is not being argued anywhere else except on Bannon’s podcast.

      Ask..argue the merit of his position rather than just pounding the sand in hysterics.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Have listened to every podcast since the War Room Impeachment days. My position is not uninformed. I’ve a problem with people who, even when presented with facts contrary to their position, merely argue and refuse to listen.
        There will be riots should anyone attempt to quarantine the entire country for 30 days in their homes, including plane and car travel. Thinking otherwise is just stupid.

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    • The really big issue is many folk had knowledge of the problem earlier (Dec 30, 2019 or earlier). For your reading pleasure may I recommend https://promedmail.org/ International Society for Infectious disease. THIS IS Not WHO and it is NOT CDC. Politics don’t live there although some disease reports are direct from official sources and as with all data you have to consider the source. That report was: Published Date: 2019-12-30 23:59:00
      Subject: PRO/AH/EDR> Undiagnosed pneumonia – China (HU): RFI
      Archive Number: 20191230.6864153.
      Their site can be searched for report dates and there is a raft of reports predating 1/20/19. And the last time I checked Promed is free although donations are accepted (I have no affiliations with it).
      And then there is the Lancet report:https://doi.org/10.1016/ S0140-6736(20)30183-5
      Published 1/24/2020. I would say there was a good bit of research going on well before 1/20/2020.
      I am under the impression that leadership at CDC and NIH may have been asleep on the PC porch for decades. Now the chickens have started to come home to roost and there is a really big mess on the porch. And the “we just got in new data and now we need to change action” does not cut it. Official data from early in the outbreak provided ample warning for those knowledgeable. Problem is all the sleeping porch puppies, haven’t pushed preparedness or improved screening (airport health checks and recall the CDC problem with test kits). Someone might ask what has money been spent on?
      This does not even begin to address civil defense (hypothetically, what would be the response to a biological warfare attack? “Well no one would do that because of the response.” What repercussions if you couldn’t identify the source?). So after discarding it won’t and it couldn’t how would preparedness for that differ from an natural pandemic? Once this outbreak is resolved, hopefully PDJT will clean up all the mess. Forget a big shovel, this is heavy equipment territory.

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  10. Ausonius says:

    And what if…

    …there is no “apex” coming?

    And what if…

    …an “apex” does arrive courtesy of deliberately inflated death numbers?

    Then what? And what if an “apex” does come? We pray, we mourn, and Life must go on!

    I tell my students that, when a mother or father dies, or a spouse, or a child, that they will feel as if any kind of happiness will be gone forever. They will think that laughter will be impossible, and that only an eternal gloom hovering over them exists in their future.

    One of the oldest ideas in human wisdom is the idea that “Time heals all wounds.”

    In <b.Thomas Mann's great novel, The Magic Mountain, the rather unremarkable main character, a just graduated engineer, has an epiphany while lost hiking in the Swiss Alps and caught in a freak snowstorm. During this ordeal, he has a strange vision, at the conclusion of which he says to himself: “Death must have no dominance over Life.”

    It is an ancient wisdom, which, despite its obvious Truth, must be restated and relearned again and again. Apparently Fear of Death is controlling America right now: what has happened to The Land of the Free and The Home of the Brave?

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  11. sunnyflower5 says:

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  12. Zephyrbreeze says:

    We all remember the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.
    Now we have a little man crying wolf.
    He is head of the CDC… which takes money from big Pharma….
    You can go to the many links in the article:

    From 2015:

    “Many people in and out of the medical community were shocked to read in an article published earlier this year in the medical journal the BMJ that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) takes funding from industry.

    “As Jeanne Lenzer, an independent reporter and associate editor at the BMJ, pointed out in that article, pharmaceutical and other types of companies can — and do — fund CDC projects by giving money to the CDC Foundation, a nonprofit organization created by Congress in the mid-1990s to “connect CDC to the private sector to advance public health.”

    “And that has raised some serious conflict-of-interest concerns.

    “For example, to help pay for its new “Take 3” flu-prevention campaign, the CDC, via its foundation, accepted a $193,000 donation from Roche, the company that makes the antiviral drug Tamiflu, Lenzer reported last February.”

    https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2015/05/revelations-cdcs-industry-funding-raise-questions-about-some-its-decisions/

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    • Zephyrbreeze says:

      This is one of the links from the article:

      “The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has launched an ambitious campaign urging people to take an antiviral drug for flu if one is prescribed by a doctor, saying that it could “save lives.” The claim is at the center of a heated controversy.

      “The Food and Drug Administration told The BMJ that data submitted to it for review do not support the claim that the neuraminidase inhibitor oseltamivir (marketed by Genentech and Roche as Tamiflu) “saves lives.” The FDA said that oseltamivir “has not been proven to have a positive impact on the potential consequences (such as hospitalizations, mortality, or economic impact) of seasonal, avian, or pandemic influenza.”

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  13. thedoc00 says:

    The name of the military exercise has been scrubbed from the internet, but recall that 2014-2017, there was a major nation wide military exercise being run by the Obama administration that focused on INTERNAL security and threats. It was talked about at great length here on CTH and the dates of that exercise align rather conveniently with Bill gates’ Big Tech Pandemic exercise also talked here on CTH.

    Now look at how the democrat run states and municipalities are using their National Guard and police forces.

    Just too many odd sets of coincidences starting to pop out as one looks back over the Obama administration and all that is transpiring today.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      Jade Helm?

      if you have time – go to youtube – aplanetruth… and see the FEMA adminstrator that quit and does an interview.. its bizarre..

      I’m not sure if its relevant of not, but she describes something she became aware of and quit..

      there is another video that was posted ealier on this site… of the NY doctor saying this isnt acting like a virus, this is acting more like altitude sickness (depriving oxygen and its not the lungs are weak and need a ventilator)

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      • thedoc00 says:

        Yes, that’s one!! Operation Jade Helm.

        When you enter the name of the exercise into search engines today, nothing but sarcastic articles appear but none that give the same informational descriptions of the exercise made public at the time. It is all now written off as “conspiracy theory”.

        It just seems odd when one compares the conduct of that exercise, then add in the coincidental Bill Gates pandemic exercise, with all that is transpiring at this point in time.

        Got to really wonder what Hillary had in store for the US, with the Obama think tank operating in the background or worse Obama as the chairman of the UN General Assembly. He is the most internationally visible and popular puppet available at this point in time. Obama was and still is actively campaigning to be the UN Chairperson. He now has a solid Islamic and EU block who will vote for him. There is more at stake in November than we may realize.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        I am not a doctor but have had relatives pass on from non-genetic induced cancer. If you listen to the doctor at the start of the video, it sounds like he describing something either coating/wrapping itself around, damaging or inhibiting the blood cells exchanging oxygen, like some cancers, in the lungs.

        Have any of the other medical folks here seen this?

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        • Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), middle eastern respiratory syndrome (MERS) and the generalized version ARDS acute respiratory distress syndrome. A variety of pathogens disrupt cytokine profiles to evade the immune response. In brief natural products (major one, TNF) that are involved in repair and initial response to infection/tissue damage are over produced and result large increases in vascular permeability. A Translation, your blood vessels take on characteristics of soaker hose (irrigation hose). Fluid portion of blood begins to leak into tissues. Largest and most vascularized tissue is the lungs which now fill with fluid pulmonary edema. You could say breathing under water is not very effective. Fluid is in and around the cells makes breathing more difficult and impairs oxygen uptake thus need elevated oxygen levels and or a ventilator which can only do so much.
          High altitude pulmonary edema low oxygen pressure induces tissue damage and TNF production. One treatment corticosteroids (dexamethasone) and get back to a lower altitude. Difference with Covid 019, is as long as the virus is replicating in sufficient numbers it is still producing the mediators that are driving the reaction and continuing to damage the lungs. If the immune response eventually does begin to eliminate the virus the corticosteroids might help.
          And those cytokines have other effects as well. For those with time on their hands Wiki for TNF. For even more educational reading try :https://doi.org/10.1016/ S0140-6736(20)30183-5 . Within the discussion of early Covid-19 patient data, it will list a slew of cytokines associated with ICU patients, notable ones are elevated TNF and IL-10 (which “down regulates an anti-viral response”), one could say an evil virus.

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    • thehawkeyehoneypot says:

      I saw it posted here before but how about the john hopkins site that talks about the 2020 corona virus. They were preparing for it in oct 2019. Bill gates owned dr birx & faucci are also on their board.

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  14. Eaglet says:

    I am a PRN (as needed) RN for a hospital outside of Phoenix for ICU, ER & PCU patients. My phone has not rang in 2 weeks. I am told by colleagues that we have empty beds (The hospital is dead) they are reducing RN’s hours but PROMISE shit will hit the fan in the next week. They are re-using N95’s because of shortage. Another colleague of mine in Tucson (inpatient pharmacist) says we could have all the ventilators we want but paralytic drugs are becoming short.He was confirming the below link. I support my President unconditionally but something else is happening. I just can not figure this out yet from a medical provider perspective.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/04/826961777/u-s-may-get-more-ventilators-but-run-out-of-medicine-for-covid-19-patients?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR3apViB34YCIgUT8fZ-JLfxc_27YfudLDi4kepzWGWERKju9_XqU4_2pp4

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    • Bigly says:

      No way can trump back peddle until after Easter

      Watch the numbers. If they don’t shake out – this becomes 100% political and then the shit will really hit the fan.

      My bet is on Trump.

      But no way he pivots before April 15th. Timing is everything – but in my thinking, when he does, this powder keg becomes all political and democrat states will over play their hand. The heat on trump will be like never seen before – every death will be “blood on his hands” –

      Thank god we have trump , but it will require God to rise him and then consequently , us, above all the bottom feeders.

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      • Bigly says:

        What I am saying is – Trump must protect his previous decisions based on science – but sometime after the 15th, If the models don’t pan out, he will pivot to economics , and hence politics.

        But all deaths after his pivot will be blamed upon his economic decisions – instead of where it should be – the models could have been over stated or Trumps decision to social distance based on science worked.

        Either way the media and dem governors are going to strike – Trump = Lincoln at Gettysburg. I believe he is ready /preparing for his finest hour.

        But not until after April 15ths numbers

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        • Eaglet says:

          I agree with you Bigly

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        • Bogeyfree says:

          So how about this…..

          1) give as many of the 275,000 infected people that can take it, the 3 ingredient cocktail (hydroxychloroquine, z-pack and zinc) NOW to attack those infected in a big way.

          2) Back up these 5-6 hot spot cities with extra Hydroxychloroquine and PPE supplies and keep the stay at home rules in place for another 2-4 weeks

          3) Then put out the Executive order that makes hydroxychloroquine available to all CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, Sams, Grocery store pharmacy nationwide but they can only dispense with a local doctors script AND proof via a documented positive Covid-19 test result for that person and only a 5 day supply. No refills.

          3) Continue strict in and out rules for Nursing Homes for the next 4 weeks to protect the elderly.

          4) Ask retired seniors over 70 to stay at home except for essential services for 2-3 more weeks to also help protect seniors.

          5) Fire Fauci and Birx and replace with medical experts outside DC

          6) Give this a 14 day head start then tell the rest of America we go back to work in 2 weeks.

          7) appoint a SC like a Sidney Powell type (dog on a bone and takes no BS) to investigate if Covid-19 deaths to ensure it was COVID-19 that killed them. And then investigate to ensure this whole corona crisis was not a planned or leveraged crisis making it an act of terror on Americans and this country.

          If you like it please feel free to clean it up and email to http://www.whitehouse.gov

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          • bkrg2 says:

            Great post – I agree 100%
            Unfortunately #5 & #7 will never happen. I agree Fauci is an idiot (I call him Dr False-ee) and very likely on Soros payroll.

            I’m not sure about Birx just yet – she is definitely in over her head and she has blindly supported these wildly incorrect models, so she is definitley not helping, but I’m not sure it’s fully intentional.

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            • lolli says:

              Brix is on the board at Gates Foundation. She is with Dr Fakie. She is not in over her head. She has a different part to play, IMO.

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              • bkrg2 says:

                She comes across as a “scientist” or data freak to me. She is so into the weeds of the data & trends that she doesnt see the overall picture. Plus, I think she has no idea of the connection to reality of the non-medical implications – economy, lonliness, depression, etc. Her brain is unable to process any of these variables

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      • betseyross says:

        I get the feeling that Trump has figured out that the CDC is a bigger part of the swamp than even he realized. I didn’t want to believe that they could be as swampy as they are portraying themselves to be, but right out of the box a Trump hating relative of the media was out there doing her thing. Fake news, fake information, fake statistics, fake temper tantrums from Democrat and RINO governors and mayors………it’s all beginning to stink to high heaven. Trump knows. Maybe it’s a way to clear out the CDC.

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    • Inthedark says:

      Eaglet: My daughter is a full time med surge nurse in AZ as well who has either been placed on call or sent home due to low census past few weeks as they cleared out the hospital in anticipation of this thing. I think these Dr.’s who sounded the alarm based on NYC and it’s just not happening in AZ. So what happens when the hospitals go broke? Do they keep it closed to everything else until May? June? July?

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      • The hospitals probably then get a federal bailout. Government causes a disaster; government “fixes” the mess it created. Wash, rinse, and repeat.

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        • Ken Lawson says:

          Antitech – you missed one step. After the govt “fixes” the mess it should say “America goes further into unrepayable debt.”

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          • AloftWalt says:

            I’m starting to come around to the idea that this is likely to become a debt reset for all the players except us little guys. We’ll continue to be on the hook while all governmental and corporate debt around the world will be wiped off the books.

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            • bjorn says:

              Yep. In the UK they have just wiped out 30bn in NHS debt to help with the crisis. Funny how this can just go away when needed.

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      • Eaglet says:

        I just don’t know. Maybe we are geographically in a good place. Thank your daughter for her devotion. I am however shaking my head..I am highly perplexed.

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      • bjorn says:

        You get the national health service they have been trying to put in place since Clinton.

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    • I suspect one factor . . . a lot of surgeries/medical procedures, which are necessary but not time critical, are being postponed because of the Wuhan Virus panic and economic self-destruction programme. Usually, a certain percentage of these procedures do not go well – maybe there are complications – and the patient is hospitalized and/or hospitalization is extended.

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  15. The Akh says:

    I spent the entire weekend setting up a garden and making a hydroponic system out of pvc and other stuff spare stuff.

    I also planted about 10 fruit trees, 2 rows of strawberries, 3 raspberry bushes, and assortment of other fruits and vegetables. I also got a pressure cooker and canning supplies.

    Planted hops, and now all I need is a homebrew kit, lol.

    I plan to barter or trade any excess. Maybe trade for some toilet paper down the road 😝

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  16. Palafox says:

    “Let Hitler have Germany. Think How many Americans might die.”

    2020 Liberals
    June 5, 1944

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  17. Eaglet says:

    Gov Cuomo just said right now 12k+ COVID-19 patients discharged in one day. Where are the videos? Should have looked like a parade with that many people walking out of various hospitals.

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  18. Bogeyfree says:

    I’ve got another suggestion to help expose this fraud for what it is……

    We set up a website called…

    My Hospital Observation and COVID-19 Deaths

    Americans can go to the site an update the world about their local hospital and if they are flooded with Covid-19 patients and if staff and ICU units are overwhelmed. No patient names other than raw information from people in the know about what it really looks like in their hospital, good or bad doesn’t matter as long as it’s the truth.

    I’d also have a tab for COVID-19 death issues where people who know first hand that a patient was flagged as died from COVID-19 when in reality they didn’t. Kind of like in a way what Candance Owen did with that infant death in CT.

    Again no patient names but examples/questions where maybe COVID-19 cause of death is being leveraged and their is some documentation in the event PT decides to look deeper in this whole Corona issue.

    We spread the word via social media and in essence common sense Americans begin doing the job honest reporters should be doing.

    Just a thought.

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    • WhiteBoard says:

      they have the hashtag on twitter now – where people are posting recordings of their hospitals.

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    • aisheschayal says:

      This was already done by Sundance, Sat. or Fri. and it was very interesting.

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    • vikingmom says:

      “I’d also have a tab for COVID-19 death issues where people who know first hand that a patient was flagged as died from COVID-19 when in reality they didn’t.”

      That’s a great idea! It almost feels like there is some giant “Me, too” movement going on with everyone wanting to claim their loved one died from “complications of COVID-19” as if that is some claim to fame!

      My 87 year old mother has end stage dementia and is on Hospice. She has been declining significantly since last summer and was accepted into Hospice just before this whole thing exploded…when she does pass away, which I expect to be within the next month or two, I will be checking all the paperwork VERY carefully to make sure that she is NOT listed as dying from anything having to do with Coronavirus!

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  19. woohoowee says:

    In previous years, were all patients who developed severe pneumonia placed on ventilators? If so, same mortality rate as with China Flu?

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    • woohoowee says:

      My dad died from pneumonia and he was never on a ventilator, same with my late m-i-l; both in their eighties.

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      • woohoowee says:

        A lot of elderly die of flu/pneumonia every year and they’re never on a ventilator. Why would China Flu be any different?

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        • woohoowee says:

          And what are the odds that a large number of patients already have pneumonia before they ever get China Flu?

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        • thetrain2016 says:

          Very few elderly die of flu/pneumonia who lift their ass off the chair and get a flu shot.

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          • woohoowee says:

            It’s often listed on their death certificates as Complications From Dementia. Also, a staggering number of elderly are unable to ambulate much at all. That’s why so many end up in nursing homes; they a physically unable to tend themselves.

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          • NC Mom says:

            TRAIN: what an IGNORANT mean comment! Flu shots only have an efficacy each season of 40 to 50 percent cent. Some years the strain is MISSED and the shot will have a NEGLIGIBLE effect as what happened in the year prior to the H1N1 outbreak.
            Patients with immunocompromised situations can NOT have the shots. Others are allergic to the albumin base used for the flu shot serum and can NOT get one.
            The ignorance of a few posters on this board is at a level I have never seen is my 5 years of following CTH.

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            • thetrain2016 says:

              Before calling anyone ignorant, I would definitely check my bad typing skills prior clicking the “Post” button. Where’s your source to claim the numbers you’ve posted? Yahoo, CNN, MSNBC?

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              • again says:

                Maybe try google? its not tricky and if anything the OP is overestimating the effectiveness.

                https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2019-2020.html

                For 2019/20 shows an effective rate of 37%

                Earlier years are here:
                https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html

                max 53% lowest 10%.

                vaccines for flu are poor.

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                • thetrain2016 says:

                  From the same site:
                  “In recent years, flu vaccines have reduced the risk of flu-associated hospitalizations among older adultsexternal icon on average by about 40%.
                  A 2018 study showed that from 2012 to 2015, flu vaccination among adults reduced the risk of being admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU) with flu by 82 percent.”
                  And think for a moment. Lots of people come out alive from intensive care. Go back to my original post and read it again. I wrote about death rate…

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    • aisheschayal says:

      This is different than pneumonia, there is a cellular cascade effect that comes on fast, devastates your immune system and demolishes the lung cells ability to oxygenate tissue. The processes are quite different than pneumonia from what I am reading.

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      • woohoowee says:

        That would be a quicker, thus more merciful death, no? Wonder how many already have flu or pneumonia before they ever get China Flu?

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          Strangling or choking to death is not my preference for passing on. I’ll take dive into a quarry first.

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          • woohoowee says:

            Speaking in terms of natural death we don’t have a choice as to our cause of death (suicide is a separate topic). Death is not always easy nor painless; from what I’ve seen it most often isn’t.

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            • Judith says:

              That’s why hospice is gaining in popularity. People who have no hope to recover can stop all the invasive countermeasures that torture people to death, so they can “live” a few more weeks. Some life!

              Instead, hospice patients receive heavy pain medication until they drift off into unconsciousness. Some, like my mom, think it’s terrible way to go, but from what I’ve seen the alternative is worse.

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      • dwpender says:

        It would seem to me that if what you’ve read is accurate, then a ventilator is of little use other than some prolongation of life and perhaps a palliative on the way to an almost inevitable death. I would think the latter could be handled with other methods.

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        • DiogeneseVindicated says:

          Yep, Dr Zalenko said you’ve got to hit it early and hard. If you get to the point you must be incubated the lung damage and scarring is likely to be a major factor for any survivors. I profoundly hope that tha HCQ trials included those in the early stages so that overall performance will not lead to misunderstanding of the efficacy.

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      • Bendix says:

        The cop I talked to told me that COVID-19 differs from influenza in that it “hangs out” in your lower respiratory system whereas flu is in your upper system. Cops have to get some training on the disease.

        Many elderly with other conditions die of pneumonia because they get it from lying sick in bed with their other condition.
        There would be no point in putting these people on a ventilator, they and their families don’t want it.

        The pneumonia vaccines, I seem to recall it is only recommended for certain patients with the likelihood of contracting certain strains of pneumonia, but don’t quote me on that. I’m trying to recall my mother’s experience, and that’s kind of a blur to me.

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  20. bullnuke says:

    The daily virus death count reminds me when I was young and had to listen to the daily death count from the Vietnam war. After a while it becomes background noise and you move on with your life.

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  21. burnett044 says:

    I feel like I am stuck in a never ending Tick_Tock……

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  22. islandpalmtrees says:

    Why are they refusing to use Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine; this is a Prophylactic?

    The Ingraham Angle 4/3/20 FULL | Breaking TRUMP April 3, 2020

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  23. I just witnessed a Palm Parade down my street with people driving together holding palm branches out their windows! So amazing to see this joy and celebration of Palm Sunday in the face of 3 weeks of state imposed isolation and church service cancelations. A great reminder that God’s love is unwavering and that the American Spirit is resilient, hopeful, strong and still very much alive.

    I hope you all have a blessed Palm Sunday! 🙏🇺🇸

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  24. The what combo Cuomo sounds like challenge. Me first.
    Gov Cuomo sounds like a cross between Woody Allen and a separated yak calf.

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  25. mandy says:

    Hubby just read me some article about the CDC and its directive to doctors that … well, basically – it pretty much sounds like any deaths must now be attributed to covid19, even if the virus is NOT the cause of death.

    Not a month ago, I saw people all over the internet screaming that CHINA IS LYING ABOUT THEIR NUMBERS!

    So … who is lying now?

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  26. islandpalmtrees says:

    Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine is an effective treatment

    Tucker Carlson Tonight 4/3/20 FULL | Breaking TRUMP April 3, 2020

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  27. Charles Darwin says:

    More evidence coronavirus has been in the U.S since at least November. The number of Influenza Like Illnesses (ILI) on the graph below means the number of diagnosed illnesses that did not test positive as influenza A,B,C but were still flu-like in nature. There was no test for coronavirus until early March so that is the category those cases would’ve been lumped into. If this proves to be the case CDC and Fauci’s NIAID should be terminated immediately for malpractice.

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    • CheetoGuido says:

      this is stunning to me. where is this posted?

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    • margarite1 says:

      On 11/20 I was at the LifeCare Center in Kirkland, WA for a business reason. I had also had a flu and pneumonia shot that week. The first week of December I got horribly sick, spent the first day unable to move off the couch, finally made it to a doctor who described my condition as bronchial. I got somewhat better by mid December but it came back a second time for a few days and then was gone by Christmas. I did finally get an antibiotic,
      no fever and they said I didn’t have pneumonia. But I was knocked down by the bug.

      At this point have to wonder what I had.

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      • Bendix says:

        Exhaustion, burning sensation in lungs is what I’ve heard from people who had something they believe was the Wuhan virus.
        If you suffered loss of sense of taste/smell, with those other symptoms, doctors are now saying you had it.

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      • vikingmom says:

        Margarite – my husband worked with a fire dept in a city close to Like Care Center and we also had something very similar to what you describe, started the first week in December. It went through the whole department and many. many people had it. Absolutely exhausted, dry cough, etc…got better and then relapsed HARD at Christmas. Cough lasted for almost six weeks – we were both tested for “flu” and both came back negative!

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        • margarite1 says:

          WOW! I wonder what it was? Very strange…

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          • vikingmom says:

            Will be very curious to see if an antigen test for COVID-19 will be made available soon? Wonder how many of us already had in November-December, long before it hit the media’s radar screen and the Left decided to turn it into the Black Plague Part II?

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            • margarite1 says:

              I know I’d like to find out. From what I’m reading it looks like we’re being had….but time will tell. POTUS is in a terrible position – no matter what he does they want to impeach him…AGAIN.

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    • bjorn says:

      So if that is true and the death rate is so much worse where were the dead bodies and the hospitals being overwhelmed in Nov/Dec/Jan?

      Or applying Occam’s razor to explain the discrepancy the simplest conclusion is the reports in March and the hysteria are intentionally falsified to damage the country. And this is being played by the usual suspects around the world.

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    • AloftWalt says:

      Exactly! The only reason we’re seeing an increase in positive tests is because of the increase in testing and the fact that they are refusing to test people with mild symptoms yet anyone with any symptom can be presumed to be positive. Talk about FAKE NEWS.
      I’m not advocating that people aren’t getting sick and dying, just that the response does not represent reality.

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  28. burnett044 says:

    I wonder if Drive -in movies will make a big come back….I mean folks stay in there cars …and you could have a drive thru for food ….
    America always finds a way……never give up…..hang tuff

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    • All Too Much says:

      There are two such theaters in Sacramento.
      Both open as of a week ago.
      Booming. But bring your own popcorn.

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    • Guyski says:

      The ones that still exist are open and doing great. Should be fast and profitable to due temp drive-in theaters.😉

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    • suburbanwoman says:

      I wish they would make a big comeback. We do have one within 20 minutes of us, but the movies shown never seem to be very appealing to me.

      I haven’t been to the movies in a theater in decades because I’m just not too keen on being in a big, dark room filled with strangers.

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      • Guyski says:

        Oh memories.

        Drive-in: dusk-till-dawn horror fest.

        Drive-in guy: Do you have anyone in the trunk if the car?
        Driver: No sir. 😏
        Drive-in guy: Do you have any alcohol in the car?
        Driver: No sir. 😏

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  29. rondo123456 says:

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  30. islandpalmtrees says:

    Save the Western World By Booting Ambassador Birx off the Corona Virus Task Force, Mr. President

    For nearly four years, nothing the globalists have been up to has ever gone over the head of their mortal enemy, President Donald Trump—not even once.
    By Judi McLeod – Saturday, April 4, 2020

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  31. KnowSERENoFear says:

    Why is everyone so focused on death and not life? News flash…everyone will die eventually…the price for believing anyone can change this fact is loss of liberty. Ya can’t cheat death…it’s God plan…part of the circle of life. You can sit caged in your house with a mask on and an electrical short can burn the house down. I’m not saying to go look for death…but to be so damn fearful of something that’s inevitable seems fickle. Instead of “1000 died in the US today,” why not….330 million lived today? The world government….the Globalists….the Elite….the Socialists are all playing us with the oldest play in the game….security for liberty.

    In survival we call it “funneling.” To snare rabbits, one manipulates the environment to “funnel” the rabbits into one area….via placement of things or bait…then it’s just “whack a mole” time…easy pickings. This is what the Global elite want. They want to live off the fruits of our labors….so they “funnel” us all into cities….”funnel” us into classes and races…”funnel” into educational tracks…”funnel” our communications all into the internet…”funnel” all our news into one medium….”funnel” all our food into multinational control….etc. And then….”whack a mole” time.

    Beware of funneling! Beware of putting you time, energy, and resources into “things” you CANT change.

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  32. ElGato says:

    I posted a few days ago about potentially fatal medication combinations in the treatment of COVID-19. The majority of the people succumbing to COVID are elderly and therefore typically on many more medications and dealing with more comorbidities. Drug to drug and drug to illness adverse reactions are incredibly important factors in survivability and are not being mentioned in the tally of COVID-related deaths.

    My company has now released a free app that allows the user to check instantly their current medications against the most common medications being prescribed for COVID-19 today. It then provides guidance as to the optimal choice for each individual. As new data is uncovered, medications that show positive results will automatically be presented for review.

    Treepers, I can’t emphasize enough how critical this is to you or your loved one’s care if they contract COVID. People will die from this virus, but this simple app will help mitigate unnecessary complications and avoidable deaths. With this information, a treating physician will have additional information with which to individually modify COVID treatment.

    The app is Pharmazam and is available now on the Apple store and within hours should be available for Android.

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  33. Dora says:

    We’ve got to get out of this corrupt organization.

    ===

    WHO senior official warns against ‘profiling’ China for lack of transparency

    The UN’s World Health Organization now stands exposed as a propaganda arm of the communist dictatorship of China, and a pathetic mouthpiece for the clichés favored by identity politics mavens in the United States. Zachary Evans of National Review write:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/who_senior_official_warns_against_profiling_china_for_lack_of_transparency.html

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  34. TreeClimber says:

    I don’t know if this is legit, but if it is…!

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  35. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sean-hannity-gov-cuomo-stop-denying-new-yorkers-hydroxychloroquine

    Hannity: “Enough is enough. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo needs to IMMEDIATELY lift his pharmacy ban that is forcing New Yorkers stricken by the coronavirus into an already overburdened hospital system to get the potentially life-saving drug hydroxychloroquine.

    Because of an executive order issued by the Democratic governor, any new prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine must go through the already overrun hospital system. This makes no sense.

    Sources tell me that Cuomo has access to MILLIONS of doses of hydroxychloroquine right now. The federal government has tens of millions of doses and has made millions of doses available to the New York governor.

    I live on Long Island and many doctors are telling me that they want to prescribe this medication to their patients who test positive for COVID-19 – the disease caused by the coronavirus – but do NOT need the patient to come to a hospital. However, Cuomo’s executive order forbids pharmacies from filling the prescriptions.

    The governor is creating a much bigger crisis in his state’s hospital system by denying New Yorkers THE CHOICE (in consultation with their doctors) to take this potentially life-saving medication.

    Many doctors believe hydroxychloroquine is the best treatment option available for their patients. Why is Cuomo denying these ill New Yorkers this medication?”

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      When are they going to realize, that taking the hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine is going to screw with their beloved COVID-19 models?

      Naturally the COVID-19 models are not going to work because the hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine is working, when it is released.

      Will Cuomo be charged for denying these ill New Yorkers medication? After all people are dying!

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    • where’s all the libs in his front yard with bullhorns calling it murder?
      wrong perp?
      wrong victims?
      BOTH.

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  36. islandpalmtrees says:

    Why?

    FLASHBACK: Dr. Fauci Downplayed Hydroxychloroquine 2 Weeks Ago — Now Considered “Most Effective Therapy” for COVID-19 by Global Survey of Doctors
    April 4, 2020, by Jim Hoft


    WOW! Dr. Fauci Cheered Hydroxychloroquine Success Treating MERS Coronavirus in 2013… But Today He’s Skeptical… That’s Weird?
    April 4, 2020, by Jim Hoft

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    • mandy says:

      “Chloroquine and its analogue hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been shown to inhibit a variety of viral infections including influenza and adenovirus through blockade of viral entry via inhibition of endosomal acidification.”

      Date: Jan 1993

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8427717

      “The antiviral effects of chloroquine (CQ) on human coronavirus 229E (HCoV-229E) infection of human fetal lung cell line, L132 are reported. CQ significantly decreased the viral replication at concentrations lower than in clinical usage.”

      Date: Feb, 2008

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354207004597

      “Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinolone with well-known anti-malarial effects. It has biochemical properties that could be applied to inhibit viral replication. We report here that chloroquine is able to inhibit influenza A virus replication, in vitro, and the IC50s of chloroquine against influenza A viruses H1N1 and H3N2 are lower than the plasma concentrations reached during treatment of acute malaria.”

      Date: May, 2006

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1481635/

      =====

      It would seem that chloroquine has been known as a broad spectrum anti viral for decades.

      It’s CHEAP and OFF PATENT so Big Pharma can’t make the big bucks off of it.

      THIS IS WHY SO MANY, INCLUDING FAUCI, ARE AGAINST IT.

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  37. cheryl says:

    In a recent candid interview, Bill Gates outlined that, despite the comparatively small threat of Coronavirus, he and his colleagues “don’t want a lot of recovered people” who have acquired natural immunity. They instead are hoping we become reliant on vaccines and anti-viral medication.
    Shockingly, Gates also suggests people be made to have a digital ID showing their vaccination status, and that people without this “digital immunity proof” would not be allowed to travel. Such an approach would mean very big money for vaccine producers.

    Did Bill Gates Just Reveal the Reason Behind the Lock-Downs?
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/04/did-bill-gates-just-reveal-the-reason-behind-the-lock-downs/

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      “Without the Mark upon the right hand or their forehead, they cannot buy or sell.”

      You see – it would be too dangerous to public health for them to go into any supermarket. Unless “the Mark” showed that they had been, you know, vaccinated …

      The prophets knew it would one day happen. They just didn’t know the details.

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    • FofBW says:

      Satan won’t give up, but God only permits him to go so far.

      Pray that we are not put to the test!

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    • TJ says:

      German socialists used yellow stars to identify people that had to be quarantined.

      Global governance will use a digital ID to identify people that need to be quarantined.

      “If medicine is to fulfill her great task, then she must enter the political and social life… The physicians are the natural attorneys of the poor, and the social problems should largely be solved by them.”
      Rudolf Virchow, “Pope of Medicine”, Founder of Social Medicine

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  38. Dora says:

    BILL GATES: THE CATHOLIC RELIGION MAY HAVE TO BE SUSPENDED FOR EVER

    Ominously, at 17:40 in this Video, Bill Gates implies that the Catholic Religion will remain outlawed until all can be certified to have received a vaccine, if even then!

    He is talking about suspending the Mass for 18 months or forever!

    https://fromrome.info/2020/04/05/bill-gates-my-corona-stunt-requires-18-months-of-control-then-mandatory-vaccination/

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    • Eaglet says:

      I wonder who the United Nations will award Italy to when the only person alive in Italy will be the pope. (I am 97% serious here)

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    • Sharon says:

      Bill Gates is a eugenicist.

      Corona is a front for the ultimate takeover that we’ve been fretting about for half a century.

      While we’ve been treated like cockroaches on the surface of the planet, the sweat of our brows was seized by government and used to build tunnels across the globe-tunnels the elites needed to hide their human and drug smuggling. But you dirty plebeians will work and pay for the exploits of the insane, inbred elites!

      Why are school districts using corona as a cover for installing 5G across the nation? Forcing school board members to sign non disclosure agreements about installing them when students are home.

      5G is simply the low range, while 60 GH deprives cells of oxygen, the moniker 5G is a head fake to cover just how much radiation will be used. It has not been tested.

      You and them all global inhabitants have become test monkeys. You have no value, donchaknow?

      Rescuing children? Don’t see a shred of evidence.

      5G implementation? Everywhere.

      So if you feel lied to and victimized – you are not imagining things. Welcome to the apocalypse. The veil is lifted.

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    • Leaving says:

      The headline is misleading. Bill used the term “mass gatherings”. He was not referring to catholic mass specifically.

      He does imply that we will never go back to the way we were.

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    • Deplore Able says:

      The Roman emperors tried to suspend the Catholic religion too. That didn’t work out as planned. Neither will Bill Gates attempt.

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  39. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  40. All Too Much says:

    “U.S. Naval War College – Humanitarian Response Program Pandemic Response: Select Research & Game Findings

    April 1, 2020

    This document is a summary of 16 key research and game findings focused specifically on the characteristics of civil-military response to a pandemic scenario. The numbered bullets below correspond to more detailed explanations of findings presented later in the document. While these findings are in no way definitive or complete, they are a sampling of relevant guidance based on research, gaming and expert opinion. It is our hope that these 16 findings will contribute to improving civilian and military …”

    https://digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=civmilresponse-program-sims-uo-2019

    “The summary’s first finding focused on the importance of authorities taking action as early as possible in a pandemic scenario.

    “Early actions and planning are exponentially more important than reactive measures once the disease is widespread,” the summary said. “Clarity, speed, and repetition are essential for changes within a population and are most effectively achieved before other factors start making decisions for them.”
    […]
    Another of the college war game’s findings focused on the importance of mobilizing private sector companies to play leading roles in the national response to a pandemic.

    “Private sector organizations are an absolutely essential and uniquely nimble component of any large-scale response,” the war game summary states, citing as an example the “tangible and innovative approaches” of the owner of an unnamed logistics company involved in getting needed supplies delivered quickly.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/naval-war-colleges-2019-pandemic-war-game-eerily-anticipated-2020s-real-world-ccp-virus_3295649.html

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  41. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • gda53 says:

      Let’s be very careful in making rash comparisons.

      “(Sweden), which has taken soft approach, has death rate higher than Nordic neighbours”
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/sweden-prepares-to-tighten-coronavirus-measures-as-death-toll-climbs

      Iceland is an island unto itself with a small population and to try to compare is with the US is to be either stupid or dishonest.

      UK initially decided to ride it out – take a look at how they are doing.

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      • Magabear says:

        I see what your saying here but you’re kind of contradicting yourself. Sweden is much more populous than other Nordic nations like Norway and the Iceland you mentioned, so one would expect more exposure to the virus. But we can’t say on one hand that Sweden is mishandling the situation by comparing them to their Nordic neighbors and then say their neighbors can remain open due to their small populations.

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  42. bkrg2 says:

    HELP
    Several days ago, our President secured enough hydroxychloroquine for 1,100 New Yorkers to try.
    The task force said they would have results in 3-5 days.
    It’s been more than 5 days. I have watched every task force briefing since day 1 (have not watched April 4 yet). I scoured the internet for an update on results. I can’t find anything other than a mention that Idiot Cuomo won’t allow pharmacies to fill the prescriptions. Not sure if that is fake news.

    Regardless, we have a major health crisis across the globe and no one is providing updates on a trial this important???

    Did I miss something?

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    • mimbler says:

      And the reporters aren’t asking about that or any of the other promising cures out there.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      The truth is from just 3 Pharmaceuticals, Sandoz, Teva and Novartis they donated around 35,000,000 tablets of Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to the US.

      35 MILLION tablets or enough to treat 7,000,000 people (7M x 1 pill a day x 5 days)

      So why hasn’t EVERYONE of the 300,000 people in this country who is infected and is capable of taking the 3 ingredient regimen, (Hydroxychloroquine, z-pack and zinc) NOT been given the treatment?

      IMO this is the real crime.

      An FDA approved drug, where we have decades of use information with little side effects.

      Why are we allowing people to get worse to the point they go into ICU or their lungs begin to fill with fluids when according to Dr. Zelenko who has treated over 600 patients with this exact cocktail and has had ZERO deaths and I think 1 hospitalization!

      This is the real crime and those who are preventing the use of this should be arrested IMO.

      Why is the Right to Try Law being purposely undermined by so many?

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      • bkrg2 says:

        exactly – there is way more supply of pills then total infected (with more pills on the way). long history of minimal side effects (when used LONG term, not just 5 days). I agree – this is looking criminal…

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  43. Reserved55 says:

    It’s never a Democrat’s fault

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  44. Johnny Dollar says:

    The Birx/Fauci prediction curve (IHME Curve) is accurate.

    Total deaths
    Date- IHME Curve prediction Actual number off by
    4/2 5809 5784 25
    4/3 7004 6962 42
    4/4 8363 8314 49

    You can’t get better than that.

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    • Eaglet says:

      I dont know what I am looking at. Please explain. Thanks in advance.

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    • RobInPA says:

      Yeah, so accurate. It’s practically uncanny. Almost too good to be true, right?

      Who is providing the numbers?

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    • Charles Darwin says:

      The required hospital bed forecasts upon which the panic/hysteria and ventilator hoarding was based remain terrible (running 3x to 4x too high in the model). Inexplicably, it is doing OK on total deaths but maybe that’s because there are more super obese and diabetic people in NYC and New Orleans than first thought as they are the ones mostly dying. Also, the total death forecast by the model has decreased by about 75,000 since the initial run in late March.

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      • mimbler says:

        If the infections peaked before the model indicated, the deaths would still be accurate for a week or two because they lag the infections by about 14 days or so in general.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      More interested in hitting the death model than getting the 35M doses of Hydroxychloroquine out to infected patients.

      Sick

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  45. Magabear says:

    So far today, 697 reported Wuhan virus deaths, of which 594 are reported from NY. While the NY numbers are probably unreliable, even so, this is a NYC metro emergency. The rest of the nation shouldn’t be locked down because of this.

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  46. burnett044 says:

    With so many wild theories i am surprized the stores did not run out of tin foil before toilet paper.

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  47. islandpalmtrees says:

    If you don’t give the people of New York Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine then are you making New York the ‘Epicenter’? Will Cuomo’s only bragging right, at the end of the flu be, – I made New York the epicenter.


    Is ‘Epicenter’ the Wrong Word for New York?
    Some worry that the go-to headline word actually hurts our ability to fight the disease.
    By BEN ZIMMER

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Why has Cuomo not been screaming and doing something about getting Hydroxychloroquine into all 113,000 infected patients or at least those who can and want to take it.

      IMO this is the real question citizens of NY should be asking Cuomo.

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  48. Lady in Red says:

    Will there soon be a black market for hydroxychloroquine?

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  49. Richie5Angels says:

    Ummmm H1N1 over 1 billion infected WW…close to 600,000 died WW….very aggressive in the lungs, ventilators needed….oh and thousand of children killed WW….no WW shutdown…stop the nonsense that this is more aggressive than that….STOP..

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