March 28th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1164

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  1. Lucille says:

    Judicial Watch Update with Tom Fitton
    FBI Shuts Down FOIA over Coronavirus
    March 27, 2020

    Issues covered:
    ‘Weiner Timeline:’ How the FBI Gave Hillary Cover During the Election
    FBI Tells Court Transparency Not Mission-Critical
    Hillary’s Emails & Benghazi—Inside Our Landmark Legal Battle
    Open Borders Coalition: Free All Illegal Immigrants Over Coronavirus

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/tom-fittons-weekly-update/128828/

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Bagpipes and his boy, Chris Wray can be congratulated for trashing the rule of law concept in the USA without end.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Lucille- thanks for posting. I subscribe to the JW bulletins and they seem to be the only people who are holding the Hag and her cronies accountable for their crimes.

      Incredible that the FBI is shutting down FOIA but they did the same thing in NY about a year ago when they got rid of Open Government/ FOIL hero, Robert Freeman. Freeman had been the best defender the NY taxpayers ever had because he worked tirelessly to enforce the Freedom of Information Law- FOIL.
      His enemies (and they were legion) got some woman to come up with a 20 year old allegation of- (take a guess) sexual harassment. There was never any criminal charge, never an arrest, no trial, nothing. Freeman was just “disappeared” as was his accuser.
      Amazing how they covered up one of the biggest stories in New York history.

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    • jx says:

      Wray and Barr are filthy.

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  2. trapper says:

    Tucker had a doctor on his show who described all his corona virus patients who are rapidly deteriorating and dying. He then stated that he himself was taking Plaquenil, a brand name for hydroxychloroquine, to keep from getting the virus.

    Tucker didn’t ask, and the doctor didn’t volunteer, whether he is giving Plaquenil to his dying patients. If he is not, then he inadvertently drew attention to what would be an extremely disturbing situation if true: doctors taking a medication for their own protection that they are, for whatever reason, denying to their dying patients. Life saving medication for me, but not for thee? At the very least, this deserves some explanation.

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    • joeknuckles says:

      I was yelling at the TV. Tucker would not ask if him if he tried it on the patients and, if not, why not?
      I would also like to know how many of the dead were homeless and whether they received proper care (including the malaria drug) or if they were just rounded up to add to the body count.

      This crap is really getting to me.

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    • JohnCasper says:

      “Tucker didn’t ask, and the doctor didn’t volunteer, whether he is giving Plaquenil to his dying patients.”

      Hopefully he is or he is “just following orders” and history does not take kindly to such people.

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    • WSB says:

      I thought Cuomo was given thousands of dosages for this?!

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    • nwtex says:

      Most likely hydroxychloroquine has not yet been cleared by the FDA to give to patient for the treatment of this Corona virus.

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      • JerseyEllen says:

        It isn’t yet cleared by the FDA, but, the doctor, at his own discretion, can use ANY drug “off label” like Botox is injected under the arm to reduce perspiration or botox is also used *off label” to reduce migranes.
        As far as dying patients, I’m sure the physician didn’t want to get caught up in the red tape of the whole thing.
        You heard his answer..he is using the drug prophylactically..there’s your answer as to the efficacy of the drug.

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        Doctors frequently prescribe medications for off-label use when anecdotal evidence or their own experience supports it.

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      • Somebody says:

        FDA has approved off label use for this, plus right to try. I know a patient in FL that they started on it yesterday, after several days inpatient with no improvement in fact was worsening. Hoping she rebounds.

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      • Flabbergasted says:

        Unless you live in a state with a Democratic Governor:

        VII. PRESCRIPTIONS FOR OFF-LABEL USE FOR COVID-19
        1. Prescribers are writing prescriptions for the drugs that are in trial to treat COVID19, such as chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, mefloquine, and azithromycin. What
        are the requirements for a pharmacist to dispense these prescriptions?
        A: Prescriptions for chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, mefloquine, and azithromycin
        may only be dispensed if:
        1. The prescription or medication order bears a written diagnosis from the prescriber
        consistent with its use.
        2. The prescription or medication order is limited to no more than a ten (10) day
        supply, unless the patient was previously established on this medication prior to
        March 25, 2020.
        3. No refills may be permitted unless a new prescription or medication order is
        furnished with established written diagnosis and indication for continuation of
        therapy.
        4. The Board of Pharmacy shall have authority to set limitations on any mediations
        for use in the treatment of the COVID-19 coronavirus.

        Click to access Kentucky%20Board%20of%20Pharmacy%20COVID-19%20FAQs.pdf

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      • Ivehadit says:

        @Scott Adams says it is cleared for use and he says everyone should actually bully their doctors into giving it to them.

        There were tests run this past week in NY from what was discused in the briefings, no?.

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    • Marc says:

      Turn off the Tucker fear porn. He’s doing this for the bosses and for ratings. I refuse to give FOX News the viewership they so desperately want.

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    • Issy says:

      Yes, there should have been a follow up questions. I guess they weren’t in the heavily produced script.

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    • coastermomohio says:

      I watched part of Tucker last night and saw the interview. My hearing isn’t that great but I did hear the doctor when he said Plaquenil. Later in the show Tucker was talking with Dr. Siegel (I think) and near the end of that segment, Tucker interrupted the doctor to tell him his producer was in his ear telling him that the previous doctor had mentioned a drug that might be used for CV. That’s when Dr. Siegel said it was Plaquenil and Tucker said his producer caught that but he didn’t hear it.

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    • wildsailor2018 says:

      Well, the Communist dictorships of Michigan and Nevada have banned it. The Communist dictatorship of New York has decided to not allow it until a full clinical study is completed. How many other States will be following suit?

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      • Bubby says:

        Wildsailor my guess is probably only states with Democrat Governors. Democrats are always accusing Republicans of wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare, but they never do, while Democrats want us dead, want us to die by withholding medical treatment! The death panels so desired by the left to be used against opponents are now here being directed by Democrat Governors. Especially since the covit-19 has a high mortality rate on senior citizens. What better way to get rid of baby boomers, like me, who tend to vote Republican than to withhold medical treatment? Clinical trials in Belgium and France support hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID‐19! God help us all! Godspeed President Trump!

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      • Sentient says:

        The scientists want their double-blind study. Hydroxychloroquine is strongly suggested to have great efficacy. People facing death from coronavirus-induced Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome are desperate for anything to save them. So Cuomo wants them to have only two choices: 1) agree to be part of our trial – and have a 50% chance of getting a placebo or 2) get nothing. That’s how you force people into a controlled trial.

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    • Actually, Tucker did ask at the end. He hadn’t recognized the brand name at first. The doctor said he and the nurses were on it for prevention,

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    • thedoc00 says:

      For all the 1,000’s of successes there is always the one disgruntled sob story that is treated as if the norm. Never fails. Feel sorry for the patients bit should shoot the story teller and media slug(s) helping the story teller.

      Just as with the politicians, whatever it takes to sell …

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  3. Glass Onion says:

    Why was Being relatively not impacted by Covid-19?
    Very interesting thread outline, via a 1999 book, outing current events, starting with a question I keep asking myself, how did Being, and most other large China cities, get off so easy

    ‘The Corona Virus travelled entire world from #Wuhan but it did not reached Beijing and Shanghai.
    Can anybody put light?
    Looks So Logical. After all Chinese Stock Market didn’t crash. American and European Markets did. 1/n
    How to dominate the world quickly?
    THE GREAT CHINESE STAGE
    1. Create a virus and the antidote.
    2. Spread the virus.
    3. A demonstration of efficiency, building hospitals in a few days. 2/n
    […]
    Please read the book by Chinese colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, from 1999, “Unrestricted Warfare: China’s master plan to destroy America”, on Amazon. It’s all there.’

    https://twitter.com/TheSkandar/status/1243395285050519559 free

    I search the book, and it appears to be the real thing. A modern Art of War

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    • Raffaella says:

      What you describe from this book has been my suspicion all along. Just a gut feeling since this whole thing started.

      A few observations:

      1. Chinese communist party completely locked up the city only after there was enough time for 5 million travelers passing through Wuhan and then spreading the virus worldwide.

      2. I don’t see any possibility for the virus to spread worldwide but not to other parts of China.

      3. My brother’s girlfriend is Chinese and lives in Beijing. She is very young. Has not left her apartment for three months except for very limited trips to groceries. She became very sick with Corona last week (her mother is a physician and treated her at home). According to her, majority of the people are too afraid of the government to report their illness. They stay at home until they get well or it gets so serious that they become terminal.

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      • Maquis says:

        I pray she recovers quickly. Thanks for the anecdote, sad but surely understandable. Heck, I’m a high risk category myself with so many severe health issues I’d be triaged straight away to a wicker basket. I don’t trust my lovely government of Washington State to do right by me either, I’m better off staying away from all hospitals for the duration.

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    • A2 says:

      It is and the US military has used it for over 20 years to inform their counter strategies.

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    • quintrillion says:

      Here it is. Brannon Howse reads from this very 1999 Communist Manifesto.
      It is an hour long, but it is gripping. After watching it ….you will just KNOW this is what is happening NOW. Buckle up because it’s going to “blow your mind.” And the Pentagon knows this because there were hearing on this very topic. Brannon has cuts of testimony. It’s not just China…It’s Russia & China……WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARNED.

      https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/chinas-war-plans-include-biological-weapons-psychological-impact

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    • BigTalkers says:

      Well, they were at least partly right… The econony this virus they created has done the best job of destroying thus far is Communist China’s.

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      • MAGADJT says:

        Exactly. And I don’t know what kind of double secret gotcha China is trying to play when they lose a bunch of their manufacturing base. Letting this virus out, whether intentional or not, is going to hurt their long term economic prospects badly.

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  4. A2 says:

    Spain, Czech, Ukraine and the list keeps growing of the PRC selling defective Covid19 test kits.

    Coronavirus: Turkey rejects Chinese testing kits over inaccurate results
    Rapid testing kits were only 30 to 35 percent accurate, says official, as Ankara orders separate batch from another Chinese Company.

    Excerpt

    “ The Turkish government has cast aside a sample of Chinese-made coronavirus rapid testing kits after finding out that they gave inaccurate results, a Turkish official confirmed to Middle East Eye on Friday.

    “We have received some samples from the company,” the official said. “We didn’t find them viable and ordered some other testing kit models from a separate Chinese company.”

    The official did not say how many kits were concerned, while noting that they hadn’t yet been used with the wider public.

    The news comes as Spain revealed on Thursday that it had withdrawn 9,000 Chinese-made kits after realising that they had only 30 percent accuracy. A Czech media outlet also reported that up to 80 percent of the 150,000 portable quick tests that China delivered to the republic earlier this month were faulty.

    Spanish officials told the media that the testing kits were also manufactured by the same company that had supplied the Turkish government.”

    What is mind boggling is The Czech report of CCP gangsterism selling Red Cross medical equipment and other crimes.

    Here is the thread reader.
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1243280172482203660.html

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    • WSB says:

      Create a bio-weapon and then create a fake test.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Maquis says:

        What’re the odds their pharmaceuticals are fake too? 😡

        Liked by 7 people

      • Betty says:

        The CDC did that to us, delayed effective response, remember.

        CDC thought they were in the driver’s seat. They said we had to make their own test kits, and no other test kits could be used – how many days did that eat up?

        Then when they finally got their kits out they said everyone had to send their test kits to them for processing – no where else. – how many days did that bottle neck eat up?

        Then the test kits were ObamaCare Web Site v.2 – how many days did that eat up?

        I read that if a doctor treats the Chinese virus with the usual flu meds it gets worse – can you imagine – worse? Is that how they found out the CDC kits were junk?

        Fauci says the peer reviewed data and conclusion from Doctor Dieter Rouault’s studies are anecdotal and should not be relied on. Dr Rouault’s study used well-known and well-used inexpensive medicines but Dr. Fauci says wait till the more expensive medicine makes it through the approval process – are they approved yet? How many days has this stall eaten up, is waiting what you would advise if you were a doctor?

        Do you think Dr. Fauci is not aware of Dr. Rouault’s impressive credentials and Peer acknowledged expertise in the study of infectious diseases?

        Critical health care equipment and PPE have been hidden away.

        GM fooled the Coronavirus task force into relying on them for ventilators. GM caused more delay by saying they could “very quickly” produce 40,000 ventilators, then after eating up days “negotiating” finally said they could only produce 6,000 over the next month and they wanted top dollar for them.

        Now governors are stepping in to bar the use of Hydroxychloroquine, brand name Plaquenil.

        So Yeah, I am right there with commenters Glass onion and Raffaella

        We are in a race to the tipping point.

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        • lolli says:

          Betty,👍
          Agree.
          Saw exactly this with my own lyin eyes

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        • WSB says:

          Betty, all true! Fauci and others are part of this coup 4.0…trillions at stake.

          I believe they were PISSED when the word got out about these old time inexpensive drugs, that for all we know have been cures for decades!!!! What others?!!!

          This is an extraordinary event. Let’s not talk about further damage that could be done.

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      • Thousand likes…I can only add ..done by Commies Trotskyist party of China..as Trotsky/Bronstein dreamed about Bolsheviks world wide bloody revolution -so they want take over world by ..ANY MEANS..and VSG/ESG PDJT knows it… be strong,pray have faith because it began BOB DYLAN released on 3/26/2020 song shelved for 57 yrs…he pointed murder of JFK- as WOLFMAN.. and we know who is it….

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      • TheWanderingStar says:

        What better way to continue the spread of the Wuhan virus; especially a virus that is under intense scrutiny?

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  5. Despicable Me says:

    Epidemic prompts Beijing to ban hunting and consumption of wild animals

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183836.shtml

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    • A2 says:

      In Hong Kong, after the avian influenza all the wet markets (and people raising chickens in their flats, true) no longer would allow live chickens to be slaughtered. That is strictly enforced. Wet markets in Hong Kong sell fruit and veg and frozen meat. The only thing allowed ‘swimming’ is live fish and seafood.

      I was close friends with some Ag and Fish folks, they told me about the hunt all through Hong Kong for the live chickens. The stories were hilarious. People, mostly recent mainlanders raising chickens in their flats.

      The PRC allowed this wild animal trade for far too long. But I find it interesting, as I have seen it, in places in Guangxi and Guilin they had restaurants flogging exotic animals on the menu. Funny, that the coronavirus never spread from there. I’m talking a good 20 years ago.

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      • Betty says:

        I read that in order to make extra money workers at the Level 4 Lab did not destroy the used lab animals but sneaked them out to sell at the Wuhan market.

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      • Bendix says:

        Here are a couple articles, one mocking Chuck Schumer for being against allowing chicken processed in China into this country. It is Michael Reagan mocking Schumer.
        https://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/Schumer-Ban-Chinese-Chicken/2013/11/13/id/536404/
        Here’s a followup article on the issue:

        U.S.D.A. to Allow Chicken From Chinese Companies
        “The Department of Agriculture will allow Chinese poultry processing companies to ship fully cooked, frozen and refrigerated chicken to the United States.”
        “Food safety advocates have been predicting the announcement since the department last year approved the export of chicken raised in the United States to be processed in China.”

        This in my opinion, was a rare time Chuck tried to do the right thing by Americans.

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  6. citizen817 says:

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    • First steps in the People being given back control of their national currency. The Central Banking system is being restructured. Huge development!

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      • BigTalkers says:

        Unfortunately, our Federal Reserve has a demonstrated history of incompetence.

        After my federally chartered bank literally disappeared during Hurricane Katrina, I called them to inquire how to gain access to my money. Their reaponse was they had no idea what I was talking about.

        So I wouldn’t count on the Fed to perform any better during this emergency than they did then, and certainly not timely.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          The Fed has already created their own, new internal financial crisis buy bailing out all the financially failed states and municipalities, when the Fed started buying their worthless bonds and debt. Those bonds and debt are also covering the pension money states and municipalities “borrowed” and can not repay (sound familiar, just as the US Congress does from the Social Security Trust Fund). This will dwarf the bad housing loan crisis and is worse because there are NO tangible assets to sell off.

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          • annieoakley says:

            Will they take our land (private property) National and State parks, Bureau of Land Management lands and use it our assets? I am told the UN Flag flies at the entrance to National Parks already but I can’t find it in Park Service websites. I actually see no flags at all on the pictures at any National Park Website.

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            • PinotNoir says:

              Annie,
              Anybody who served in UN/SFOR in Bosnia knows they are incapable of posing a threat to the US.

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            • thedoc00 says:

              They many fly flags welcoming guests. They all fly the US and Park Services flags as a minimum and often fly state flags as well. The UN Flag may be flown as well, if the park or parts of a park are UNESCO funded.

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          • Debra says:

            How much real estate here in the U.S. is owned by foreigners? Especially those from China? Our VSGPDJT has ‘a plan’ in mind re: real estate, in my estimation . . .

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  7. citizen817 says:

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  9. Despicable Me says:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/27/amid-coronavirus-lockdowns-neighborhoods-are-coming-to-life-again/

    We noticed this returning from picking up a curbside meal in support of a local favorite restaurant last night. It felt a sense of nostalgia for my childhood when around dinner time or shortly thereafter families walked or biked down the street together, played yard games, sat on the front porch and chatted quietly or not at all or perhaps yelled at neighbors from what we, beginning March 16, refer to as safe distance. I have been blessed with good neighbors (whether coming, going, returning or just staying) for as long as I can remember. I am well into the third decade of residence at my current home. Visiting extended family members and friends have always marveled at the graciousness, friendliness, generosity and overall helpfulness of my immediate neighbors within the community where I live because it is truly unlike many others in otherwise transient Northern Virginia. It’s our little slice of sanity. BTW the millennial (who had a really tough week on many fronts which was only compounded by the COVID19 craziness) paid for dinner (always a plus in my book) and topped it off with a HUGE tip of about 60%. There is hope for the future.

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  10. JohnCasper says:

    DiploMad talks sense, as usual.

    ChiCom Virus and the Left’s Glee: Carter Energy Crisis Redux?

    Looks like the Congress is going to pass that massive, $2.2 trillion (what does that sum even mean?) economic “rescue” package. We already see some Dems warning us that this is only the beginning and that more will have to come from the Feds to avert DISASTER.

    Really? Last night I was mildly encouraged that the “rescue” thing would not pass, and would get hung up–as our Founders intended–in a complex game of checks-and-balances, with countervailing interests and demands nuking each other. But, alas! The Senate passed the monster kidney stone, and now it goes to the House of Reps for likely passage there.

    Sigh . . . We don’t need massive “rescue” packages from the Feds.

    We need the Feds and the States and the Munis to get out of the way, re-open the economy, and stop suppressing our rights and freedoms. We are not in some horrid war wherein our homeland has suffered invasion. We do not face an existential threat from a virus. We face a virus, another one in a long line of viruses, apparently not more fatal than any other in the recent past; we can deal with this disease without destroying our society, without turning us into docile wards of the all-powerful and beneficent State, obeying the dictates transmitted to us by the so-called news media. By the way, if there is any existential threat, it comes from the draconian actions called for to “defeat” a ChiCom virus.

    All nonsense in the pursuit of permanent damage to the USA and the West.

    Folks, wash your hands; don’t cough on people; avoid large crowds as much as possible; don’t shake hands willy-nilly, but go back to work! This ChiCom virus will pass. Create! Produce! Invest! That’s what this country does so well. We are not a nation meant for sealed bunkers, bunkers to which we have ceded the keys to the bureaucrats and the “experts.”

    We are not Eloi! There are no Morlocks–unless we allow them to take up residence here.

    — cont —

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    • Bigly says:

      Try to rise above the situation and lead us through it – not sure what this post means or does to move us forward – profound thinking?

      Around the WORLD millions and millions and millions of people are out of work and in their homes. To suggest government not put financial mechanisms in place to bridge the gap required to keep us safe and eating makes no sense.

      Come to the table as an arbitrator of hope …and prosperity. Not like a back seat driver who has all the answers. Just saying. What are you suggesting? We crash?

      Besides, trump is going to make China pay for it, you watch, you will see. Trump has to get re-elected though – a must. And he isn’t going to do it if he says tough or get back to work in the middle of a pandemic – are you serious?

      Maybe some of us find politics too frustrating to watch any more – possibly – the Bill is law, move on! Just saying. It’s over , 96-0!!

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      • upper379 says:

        Bigly, I thank you for posting your thoughts so succinctly. Vetoing the bill would have been political suicide for our side. P. Trump must win at all costs. The alternative is unthinkable.

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      • oldumb says:

        The government acting to keep us safe (from?) and keep us eating??
        NO TY. The govern has to take the money from me to pay for what they give me. That is a hole not a help.
        The government was the problem and their cure is more problem.
        Do not look to the government for food or safety.

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    • BigTalkers says:

      This pandemic is a piece of cake next to not having access to fuel and electricity.

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      • Ellie says:

        That’s coming

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      • PS says:

        This pandemic is not driving shortage like a blizzard or hurricane where you lose parts of the grid. The electric supply is strong. Spot market power prices are actually low nationwide because of reduced demand. Fuel prices are likewise at decades low, as we are in that sweet spot of spring; no heating and no air conditioning. These supply chains were not interrupted.

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      • Dizzylizzy says:

        Thank you Bigly. As a small business owner, loooong time taxpayer, this is the time I would like my money to go to helping, not crashing. I know the bill has too much pork. Don’t expect the Democratics to do anything altruistic. But if we can keep our company running, our employees employed, working….

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  11. citizen817 says:

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    • Kitty-Kat says:

      He found everything was a big unprecedented mess. Yet serious viral threats were effectively handled many times in the past, with perspective and without panic. How was that possible?.

      I’m weary of “best ever” and “worst ever” which incite extremes of euphoria and/ or fear.

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      • Jase says:

        The last serious viral threat was under Obama, I believe.
        Was that ‘effectively handled’ or do a compliant, sycophantic media ignore it and downplay the illnesses, the deaths, the waste, the ignorance and incompetence?
        After that, did the Obama regime and spendthrift Democrat Governors fail to replenish depleted stocks and rundown equipment?
        Did some of them even embark on a year’s-long drive to force hospital closures, so they could waste the money on pet projects like illegal aliens?
        Your President has done a mighty job, all the while harried and sniped at by petty, small-minded power-crazed people.
        If he wants to give himself a pat on the back? Well, he deserves it.

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        • StanH says:

          Bingo! I would imagine in 2010 when Swine Flu swept across the country 65-85 million Infected, 18 thousand dead, 3-400 thousand hospitalized, Barry played golf and I’m sure joked about knocking off Irredeemable deplorable’s, “just give’em a pill.”

          Yeah Kitty-Kat “they” dealt with it by ignoring it.

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        • peace says:

          @Jase – He certainly does deserve it – I love how he pats himself on the back – all the media does is stab him in the back

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      • DiogeneseVindicated says:

        Down vote

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        • DiogeneseVindicated says:

          Maybe serious viral threats were not ‘effectively handled’ in the past. Maybe we live in a new press induced normal that would successfully bring down the best president this nation has seen in a century if not attended to in an equally urgent response. 13K H1N1 deaths were normal yesterday. Today the press has insured that 1 CV19 death is sufficient to close our country. I’m with PDJT to beat the press with their own standard in a jaw dropping manner that brings favorable changes to our country the likes of which we could only have hoped for.

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      • wildsailor2018 says:

        The difference this time is the panic the media keeps inciting with misinformation, false hoods (“the cure (fish tank cleaner) kills people! Whah”) and overblown reporting. I have friends working from home with CNN on all day long; these folks are totally convinced THEY and the rest of us ARE ALL GONNA DIE. If I did not have to stay 6 feet away from them I would drive over their house, smash the TV, and slap them until they agreed to not watch that s&^%$t anymore. This is a coordinated attack on us by the media.

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        • One has to wonder what the next Democrat Media Manufactured Crises Boomerang will e.
          Yes Pres Trump is winning them! All.
          Yes , the resources, the rights of the citizens are being slowly destroyed by this onslaught

          When does he left go full insurrection??
          And which way will the military go.
          Has it been .Fundamentally Transformed?!!

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  12. Despicable Me says:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/27/media-peddle-bogus-wuhan-virus-stats-to-bash-america/

    Read only if your BP is in check. We all pretty much know the games the MSM plays when it comes to “orange plan bad!” but the article is a great compendium with which to refute the naysayers in your life.

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  13. nwtex says:

    Somethin’ wrong with this woman.

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  14. spoogels says:

    Obama admin repeatedly sought millions in CDC funding cuts, despite Biden’s attacks on Trump preparedness

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-admin-repeatedly-sought-millions-in-cdc-funding-cuts

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  15. James says:

    It is not just CA,

    During the COVID-19 crisis, many of our family members, friends, and fellow citizens have decided to exercise their right to self-defense for the first time. Unfortunately, many of them are being delayed or denied their rights not only by anti-gun bureaucracy put in place years ago, but also new obstacles created within the past few days and weeks. Anti-gun officials have taken advantage of declared states of emergency to restrict our rights by closing gun stores, delaying concealed carry permits, and shutting down background checks for new firearm purchases.

    These are the very actions that the Second Amendment was meant to guard against. These are the abuses your NRA fights at all levels of government.

    Your NRA has launched a new website to put all information related to the COVID-19 pandemic in one convenient location. By visiting http://www.nraila.org/coronavirus, you will be able to see the latest developments in your state and may take action to protect your Second Amendment rights.

    Some of these recent actions:

    California

    San Jose officials insisted that firearms are “nonessential” and ordered gun stores to close. Mayor Sam Liccardo said, “We are having panic buying right now for food. The one thing we cannot have is panic buying of guns.” The city has shut down gun stores.

    Los Angeles County Sheriff Villanueva said, “Buying guns is a bad idea” and demonstrated his disdain for law-abiding citizens being armed for self-defense by starting to shut down gun stores. He suspended that endeavor after receiving an opinion from Los Angeles County counsel that gun stores could in fact be classified as essential businesses, but just the next day, put the shut-down order back in place. One Los Angeles official even stated, “There’s nothing essential about being able to purchase a new handgun.”

    On March 27th, the NRA joined individuals, retailers, and other gun rights groups in filing a federal lawsuit challenging state and local policies and enforcement practices that violate Second and Fourteenth Amendment rights.

    Delaware

    Governor John Carney’s executive order on March 22nd did not list gun stores as essential and State Police began to issue cease and desist letters to force them to close. Following an uproar from NRA members and concerned citizens, Gov. Carney revised his order to allow gun stores to remain open by appointment only.

    Maine

    Governor Janet Mills issued an executive order for “nonessential” businesses to close starting March 25th. While it was initially unclear if that category includes gun stores, she has since made her intentions clear by having state authorities order them to close. NRA members and law-abiding gun owners throughout the state are urging her to correct this egregious error.

    New Jersey

    Governor Phil Murphy ordered the State Police to shut down the online background check system, ensuring that licensed firearm dealers cannot transfer firearms to citizens. NRA is currently pursuing all legal options to halt Gov. Murphy’s unconstitutional actions and secure the Second Amendment rights of Garden State residents.

    New Mexico

    Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham is making her anti-gun proclivities clear and wasting law enforcement resources by tasking the State Patrol with driving by gun stores and telling dealers that they must remain closed to the general public. NRA members and law-abiding gun owners are responding to the Governor’s anti-gun order by urging her to consider the safety and security of her constituents and allow gun stores to re-open for business.

    North Carolina

    Wake County Sheriff Gerald Baker’s office announced that they will not issue new pistol purchase permits for more than a month. This leaves new prospective gun owners especially vulnerable. For the next month, law-abiding residents cannot buy a handgun or receive one in a private transfer, even from a family member or close friend, unless they were issued a permit prior to the shutdown.

    Pennsylvania

    Governor Tom Wolf considers gun stores, and by extension the Second Amendment, “non-life-sustaining” and forced them to close on March 23rd. Following a dissenting opinion from Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice David Wecht and two other Justices, Governor Tom Wolf quietly removed gun shops from that list, allowing them to re-open on March 25th. Their opinion made it clear that Governor Wolf’s shuttering of gun shops amounted to “an absolute and indefinite prohibition upon the acquisition of firearms by the citizens of this commonwealth – a result in clear tension with the Second Amendment.” NRA members and law-abiding gun owners throughout the state made their voices heard loud and clear on the initial closure and we thank them for their steadfast support.

    Texas

    Over this past week, local officials in a number of cities and counties adopted emergency orders that contained provisions forcing firearm retailers to close. On March 27th, following a timely request from pro-Second Amendment state Representative Dustin Burrows, Attorney General Ken Paxton issued an opinion stating that Texas’ preemption law prohibits these emergency stay-at-home orders from shutting down gun stores. NRA thanks Rep. Burrows and AG Paxton for their rapid response to protect the Second Amendment in the Lone Star State.

    Fortunately, many of our members live in pro-gun communities and states where officials support your right to defend yourself and your loved ones. Even in these pro-gun jurisdictions, eternal vigilance is necessary to protect our freedoms against the threats posed by the ongoing emergency. With this in mind, please visit: http://www.nraila.org/coronavirus to stay up-to-date on all COVID-19 news and, by all means, stay safe. Working together, we can protect the Second Amendment and come out of this crisis stronger, wiser, and with our rights secured.

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    • Jeff says:

      LA County Sheriff: “Buying guns is a bad idea.”
      Which translates directly to: “The Second Amendment is a bad idea.”
      There’s really no other way to interpret it.
      To paraphrase a famous essay from ca. 2009: The danger is not that these anti-Americans are in public office. The danger is that we have an electorate that is stupid enough to elect such people.

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      • TheWanderingStar says:

        LA County Sheriff: “Buying guns is a bad idea.”
        Also, LA County Sheriff: “We’re releasing convicted criminals onto the streets.”

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    • Patriot1783 says:

      You would think it’s obvious how essential gun stores are now after multi state governors order: release criminals via cofid19 concerns, dictate a no bail policy for most crimes, police to ignore certain criminal complaints and mandate closure of all gun shops.

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  16. rah says:

    Interesting take on one reason for the relatively high mortality rates in Northern Italy and Wuhan. Bottom line is that air pollution has long been causing chronic respiratory conditions.

    Climate Alarmism Kills
    Posted on March 28, 2020 by tonyheller
    Interesting map from NASA, which shows how polluted the air in Northern Italy normally is.
    https://realclimatescience.com/2020/03/climate-alarmism-kills/#comment-305762

    Based on the above one would expect that places like LA and NYC will also suffer relatively higher mortality rates than places with generally cleaner air.

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    • A2 says:

      That seems to be one factor. There is also evidence that blood type A are more susceptible to the Covid19.

      There are obviously many factors that may, and I do say may, be a factor. All we know with any precision, is it is novel, highly contagious by airborne spread, and contaminated surfaces. Usually between family members, or people attending various events, like weddings, parties, sporting events, restaurants and pubs, the usual social spaces, it spreads.

      For the US, outside of densely populated urban areas, this should not pose a problem. Detached houses with front and back gardens. Isolating is not a problem, if precautions are made when shopping and such. wear a mask, bring disinfectant wipes and wash your hands and the fresh produce that is in bins. In Hong Kong we always wash our produce three times, whether local or imported. You are fortunate. Most Hong Kong people live in high rise flats in the most densely populated city in the world.

      Yet, as we are getting imported cases from hk people returning and therefore the infection rate is rising, we have had only four deaths, from the first case on 23 January to today.

      Folks need to follow the US task force guidelines.

      God bless and keep you safe.

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      • JoAnn Leichliter says:

        Italy has the largest per capita percentage of elderly in Europe, probably in the world. My last check showed that 90+% of their deaths were people aged 79+. Also, northern Italy, the manufacturing hub, has a huge number of resident Chinese (China has bought and bought into a large number of the industries there) who went home for their New Year (many are from Wuhan) and returned with the disease. Chronically bankrupt Italy is Europe’s only Belt and Road participant.

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        • A2 says:

          Yes all you say is true. And the belt and road transmission economically will be another area of interest in transmission. Like cholera that went pandemic as transportation links proceeded in the nineteenth century.

          I did a bit of a dive in the Italian academic literature mostly in the Bergamo region mostly anthro and sociology oriented about migration of Chinese to the region and problems of integration in the 1980s and 1990s. I wrote about it here.

          What I found interesting is that the PRC migrants, not the factory broker labour, rented basement flats from Italians to set up workshops, as well as working in, or establishing cheap eateries and small shops. It seems to me from the research paper, that many elderly home owners to raise some revenue rented out their basements and empty areas to these migrants. That helps to explain I think how the elderly may have come into contact with the virus as these folks returned to PRC for the lunar New Year, then returned. Also these migrants had distinct local clustering, much like the immigrants to America, as whole villages emigrated and settled together in areas of the US. Not surprising.

          I only looked into this as I was a bit puzzled as to why the elderly were the first to contract the virus and how did that happen. This is before the family members were catching it at skiing resorts and trips abroad.

          Just speculation, but I find it of interest.

          The Spanish case is also of interest. Need more time to take a look.

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        • rah says:

          Personally I love Italy and Italians. Spent some significant time in northern Italy as an SF soldier. During an exercise where we were split team with Italian SF and were being chased by the Italian Alpini (mountain troops) we moved into an Italian mountain village in the area where they make chianti wine.

          It was May Day and nobody was working. All the villagers were in the cantinas. When they saw us they came out and tried to drag us, rucksacks, weapons and all into the cantinas with them to buy us drinks. They told us we were the first American soldiers to enter their village since WW II. They hid us out in a empty chianti warehouse from which we operated and they never gave us up to the aggressors.

          Ironically the whole exercise was based on the notional premise that the Soviets had successfully invaded northern Italy. And there we were having Italian communist villagers hiding us from the aggressors playing the communist enemy.

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          • Greg1 says:

            10th Group?

            A buddy of mine was in 10th group in the early to mid 90’s. Told stories of locals in Bad Tolz buying them drinks. I was in 3rd Group in the early 90’s, I’m not tabbed. Remarkable bunch of people, I got to learn a lot.

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            • rah says:

              Yep! 5 1/2 years team time split between two teams in Co. A, 3rd Bn, then at Ft. Devens, MA. 3 years on a team in Co. A, 1st Bn. at Bad Tolz. Spent most my time on teams that concentrated on Alpine and cold weather ops.

              I had the honor to serve with and be led by some of the best our nation produces and got to do things and go places most American never experience. Looking back, the Army gave back every bit as much as I put into it. If only we could stay young and strong forever.

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              • Greg1 says:

                Always figured you mountain/cold weather ops guys had to be studs. Tough gig. Indeed, if we could only stay young and strong forever!

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      • peoplepill says:

        Any difference between A+ and A- blood type when looking at the Covid19 ?

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    • TJ says:

      “On a national level, the most polluted town of 2017 so far is Cremona in Lombardy, where safe limits for fine particles have been surpassed for 20 days already this year.”

      Smog levels way above safe limits in northern Italy
      https://www.thelocal.it/20170131/our-lungs-are-breaking-smog-levels-way-above-safe-limits-in-northern-italy

      Lombardy has been under a lockdown since March 8 and the government had hoped to see results there first.
      https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/coronavirus-death-toll-in-italys-lombardy-jumps-by-546-in-a-day

      99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

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  17. James says:

    Something to think about in these times,as to what you might want give up your liberty for ,

    Destiny of The Signers

    of
    The Declaration of Independence
    When the 56 Signers of The Declaration of Independence attached their signatures to that document, each knew they were committing treason against the British Crowne. If caught and captured, they risked death. But death would not be swift. It would be by hanging to the point of unconsciousness, then being revived, disemboweled, their body parts boiled in oil and their ashes scattered into the wind. Our Founding Fathers valued freedom, for themselves and their posterity, to the extent that they found this fate worth the risk. The story below tells what happened to the men who signed the Declaration of Independence.
    * * *
    What Happened to the Signers?
    This story comes from http://www.self-gov.org/liberator/

    Five signers were captured by the British and brutally tortured as traitors. Nine fought in the War for Independence and died from wounds or from hardships they suffered. Two lost their sons in the Continental Army. Another two had sons captured. At least a dozen of the fifty-six had their homes pillaged and burned.

    What kind of men were they? Twenty-five were lawyers or jurists. Eleven were merchants. Nine were farmers or large plantation owners. One was a teacher, one a musician, and one a printer. These were men of means and education, yet they signed the Declaration of Independence, knowing full well that the penalty could be death if they were captured.

    In the face of the advancing British Army, the Continental Congress fled from Philadelphia to Baltimore on December 12, 1776. It was an especially anxious time for John Hancock, the President, as his wife had just given birth to a baby girl. Due to the complications stemming from the trip to Baltimore, the child lived only a few months.

    William Ellery’s signing at the risk of his fortune proved only too realistic. In December 1776, during three days of British occupation of Newport, Rhode Island, Ellery’s house was burned, and all his property destroyed.

    Richard Stockton, a New Jersey State Supreme Court Justice, had rushed back to his estate near Princeton after signing the Declaration of Independence to find that his wife and children were living like refugees with friends. They had been betrayed by a Tory sympathizer who also revealed Stockton’s own whereabouts. British troops pulled him from his bed one night, beat him and threw him in jail where he almost starved to death. When he was finally released, he went home to find his estate had been looted, his possessions burned, and his horses stolen. Judge Stockton had been so badly treated in prison
    that his health was ruined and he died before the war’s end. His surviving family had to live the remainder of their lives off charity.

    Carter Braxton was a wealthy planter and trader. One by one his ships were captured by the British navy. He loaned a large sum of money to the American cause; it was never paid back. He was forced to sell his plantations and mortgage his other properties to pay his debts.

    Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he had to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Continental Congress without pay, and kept his family in hiding.

    Vandals or soldiers or both looted the properties of Clymer, Hall, Harrison, Hopkinson and Livingston. Seventeen lost everything they owned.

    Thomas Heyward, Jr., Edward Rutledge and Arthur Middleton, all of South Carolina, were captured by the British during the Charleston Campaign in 1780. They were kept in dungeons at the St. Augustine Prison until exchanged a year later.

    At the Battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the family home for his headquarters. Nelson urged General George Washington to open fire on his own home. This was done, and the home was destroyed. Nelson later died bankrupt.

    Francis Lewis also had his home and properties destroyed. The British jailed his wife for two months, and that and other hardships from the war so affected her health that she died only two years later.

    “Honest John” Hart, a New Jersey farmer, was driven from his wife’s bedside when she was near death. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. Hart’s fields and his grist mill were laid waste. For over a year he eluded capture by hiding in nearby forests. He never knew where his bed would be the next night and often slept in caves. When he finally returned home, he found that his wife had died, his children disappeared, and his farm and stock were completely
    destroyed. Hart himself died in 1779 without ever seeing any of his family again.

    Such were the stories and sacrifices typical of those who risked everything to sign the Declaration of Independence. These men were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged:

    “For the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the
    protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each
    other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      Every time I am reminded of their sacrifices, I say a prayer of gratitude and thanks. Truly amazing people.

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    • Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

      Another bit of factual history of the spirit, fortitude, and patriotism of our forefathers;
      Samuel Whittemore, a farmer and soldier, was in his fields when he spotted an approaching British brigade. Whittemore loaded his musket and ambushed the British Grenadiers of the 47th Regiment of Foot from behind a nearby stone wall, killing one soldier. He then drew his dueling pistols, killed a second grenadier and mortally wounded a third. By the time Whittemore had fired his third shot, a British detachment had reached his position; Whittemore drew his sword and attacked. He was subsequently shot in the face, bayoneted numerous times, and left for dead in a pool of blood. He was found by colonial forces, trying to load his musket to resume the fight. He was taken to Dr. Cotton Tufts of Medford, who perceived no hope for his survival. However, Whittemore recovered and lived another 18 years until dying of natural causes at the age of 98.
      Aside from our President, does the blood of this old farmer run in the veins of our glorious politicians?

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      • Never count out the octogenarians!

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      • rah says:

        That event occurred as part of the action that was the spark that set the American Revolution on fire. As the British were retreating to Boston after having been stopped at the Bridge at Concord they were sniped at the whole way by minute men that had come from all around and locals like the aged Whittemore came out to take their shots at the hated lobster tails.

        Another great tale of an aged American leaving the relative safety of his home to do battle is the story of the 70 year old John Burns at Gettysburg.

        Such tales make up the fabric of the legend of who Americans are. They need to be taught to our children but they won’t learn them in school. It is up to us to teach them.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        Dang, 80 years old and the guy was unstoppable.

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    • Bigly says:

      One of the best and most profound story of our founding is a movie “Monumental” by Kurt Cameron – watch it with your kids and grand kids. It’s intense, the story of our founding like you’ve never heard it before. Against all odds told in a dramatic and well researched way. It should be required history.

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    • Zabadak says:

      Thanks James. Bad link, however. Says page doesn’t exist. Can you repost?

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    • Thank you James, for this most inspiring information
      It is a sad reminder how little Patriotism and love of Liberty there is in our great Republic.

      I look around me at my neighbors (NY suburbs) and see their FB posts and realize that there probably isn’t ONE of them who would choose Liberty over their cell phone.

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        A lot of people on FB are kind of …
        they do not think before posting…

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        • Yvonne- there are many problems with FB, not the least of which is all the information they get when you sign up, They know more about me than I do about myself!
          Since there are no more local newspapers, I find that FB is the only placed left to do local advertising, whether it’s for selling things or political campaigns.
          I try to stay away from the local “social” groups in town, some of which have thousands of members, because they are mostly filled with nasty, left wing Commie scum who hate President Trump.
          They are ignorant and woefully misinformed about every subject, yet they do not hesitate to spew their filth and venom at anyone who dares post something that goes against their stupid opinions.
          Yet these same neighbors, the people who live in my town and county, consider themselves to be kind, friendly, tolerant, loving good citizens.
          That is why NY and all Blue Commie states are hopeless. They are filled with these a-holes.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Snopes thinks they debunked a version of this called ‘the price they paid’.

      First, the wording is much too similar. I hate to think that people are dishonestly taking other people’s work and recirculating it under false pretenses, and doing so to boost patriotism. (My comment. Not a criticism of anyone who is not aware there are multiple versions floating around. Just a criticism of the plagiarists.)

      I can see why some sites may regret and erase having posted it. Criticized by Snopes. And to find out your version is not the original.

      As to the Snopes criticism. It is a typical admixture of didn’t happen, happened but not as written, happened but not for the cause given, happened but not for the cause implied, and nyah nyah you spelled it wrong. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-price-they-paid/ You can judge the criticism yourself.

      Funny thing, who knows if snopes got the original version? Or if their criticism was itself original? Here is a criticism that includes a letter written by an academic who at least states his references. https://www.connecticutsar.org/the-price-they-paid/

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Bad link.

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  18. https://www.nytimes.com/…/e…/coronavirus-italy-bergamo.html…

    Are the Flu Dead not taken every morning, noon and night during the peak of that season? Why are expiring flu victims consigned to a forest emptied of microphones? Why the selective fanfare? Who’s in charge of fanfare? Does fanfare have an agenda?

    What’s destroying the world economy? A deadly new virus? Fanfare? A little of both?

    On the one hand, ER personnel are reporting horrific details from the front-lines. On the other, leading epidemiologists scoff at the inexplicable and unprecedented media amplification attending this pandemic.

    What can be attested to with dead certainty?

    1. The world economy is being destroyed.
    2. Close to two billion people’s freedom of movement has been radically curtailed.

    Not a shot fired and two billion people are pouring out of the streets into their homes. Wow.

    Covid is the Globalist VACCINE against the creeping VIRUS of Economic Populism to which Trump’s America is the super-spreading Typhoid Mary.

    The signature American engine of jobs/prosperity creation -small businesses- has been put on ventilation. Prospects for recovery are grim.

    A once-recalcitrant US is being normalized into the globalist grid. Trump was counter-cyclical to Globalist consolidation. His employment and Dow gains are being reversed. Brexit is ‘delayed’ yet again. We’re living through Covid the danger of success.

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  19. JohnCasper says:

    First Satan created Hitler and Stalin to bring and impose totalitarianism on America. That was just for practice. Then he created the ChiCom Virus, and the freakout people, and declared that he had achieved perfection.

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    • A2 says:

      Sounds like an intriguing novel. Write it. It will be historical fiction , but may mean big bucks,

      Netflix calls.
      😀

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    • Kitty-Kat says:

      It appears it’s going to take several more thousands of years before humans find practical living faith in the power of God to heal disease by casting out the fear of disease. As Christ Jesus said repeatedly, “Fear Not!” The current panic and fear is doing nothing in the right direction and lot in the wrong direction.

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  20. Bigly says:

    Times like these separate the leaders from the [editor removed text]

    Rep Haley Stevens from Michigan yesterday’s 1 minute speech on OUR American House floor

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  21. Seneca the Elder says:

    They are deliberately giving out false and misleading information for NYC the supposed mega hot spot. Look at the stats in this article.
    Vast majority of those who died including young people had underlying conditions:

    http://thecity.nyc/2020/03/three-of-four-young-nyc-virus-victims-had-medical-conditions.html

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    • TJ says:

      “The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.”

      “On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,” Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health

      Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?
      The country’s high death toll is due to an ageing population, overstretched health system and the way fatalities are reported
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

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    • Free Speech says:

      Yeah, I was suspicious of those inflated NYC numbers. That city and state have been doing every little minor aggression they can muster to try to damage POTUS in any possible way.
      Sorry, 136 people may have died yesterday in NY who also tested positive for covid19, but I don’t believe 136 people died directly FROM covid19. I alsi believe the test interpretation is being manipulated to deliberately give a ton of false positives.

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    • Sentient says:

      You make it sound like people under 45 routinely drop dead of high blood pressure or diabetes (“underlying conditions”). They don’t. If these were young people who were at death’s door from leukemia or something and they happened to catch coronavirus at the same time they were dying anyway, that article would have greater validity. Instead, the article is lumping in conditions that people can live with for decades in order to imply that coronavirus isn’t killing people in startling and increasing numbers. It is.

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  22. JohnCasper says:

    In today’s America, we do not permit Congressmen to vote as they see fit. If a Congressman votes against what the President and Nancy Pelosi want, in a rare moment of unity, he must be removed from the party and from Congress immediately. The very idea that this man did not want to vote for a bill just because nobody had read or knew what was in it and it cost $trillions of dollars we don’t have is ludicrous and unacceptable. Tom Massie must not only be thrown out of the party, he and his wife should be taken in the middle of the night by at least a 29man FBI Swat team, indicted and sent to Gitmo.

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    • Bigly says:

      The senate vote was 96-0, he lost.

      To put every congressman on a plane to make a point, any point, was dangerous and mishandled – a gross miscalculation.

      Part of leadership is to know when you’ve lost – if you can’t figure that out – you need to be thrown out of the party. You don’t have what it takes.

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    • butch cassidy says:

      John, lets look a little closer at this. He probably yelled no(no vote was taken) on a bill that was going to pass anyways. Fine, he stuck to his principles and convictions, now move on.That’s not what he did. He wanted congressman to fly back to Washington knowing the majority had already left town, putting his fellow congressmen on planes when no one wants to do any kind of traveling.He wanted to have everyone vote, knowing what the outcome was going to be and also knowing that social distancing was now in place at the house and they were now dealing with that, still knowing that this was all a waste of time.

      And of course he (who know one even knows who he is) got all kinds of press and airtime and was able to preen in font of the cameras, still knowing all he was doing was putting hardships on his coworkers, the place where he works at and delaying monies to his constituents that needed it in this time of crisis. And of course making the republican party look like a bunch of heartless politicans. I would throw this guy out of the republican party Monday morning and he can go hang with Justin Amash.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        but more importantly, the Libertarian took the heat of Dimm Pelosi…

        Americans would’ve remembered the delay was only Dimms, but now, no…

        45 said it very clear, throw him out of party as this may cost REPUBLICANS THE HOUSE IN 2020!

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        • jx says:

          > throw him out of party as this may cost REPUBLICANS THE HOUSE IN 2020

          If Trump said that he’s wrong. This will have no impact on elections. Besides – Republicans don’t have the House.

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      • jx says:

        the majority had already left town had been sent out of town by the Speaker

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        • butch cassidy says:

          jx, what difference does it make why they left town? The point is they had to make their way back and pelosi didn’t send them out so they couldn’t vote. As far as the 2020 elections, this situation most certainly could have a impact on everything. Massie almost ( dems and the msm are still talking about him) made the republican party responsible for delaying this bill and you can bet how the dems and the msm would have had a field day with that, not to mention where the people needing the cash flow would have placed the blame.

          In these type of historical situations every move and decision put under a microscope and is critical to party that made them, and in a election year times that by 10. The 2020 election is the goal here, we lose we’ll be in some serious shit.

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          • Debra says:

            The point is:

            If this is such an urgent concern, why aren’t our congresspeople concerned about DOING THE JOB they were elected to do?

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            • butch cassidy says:

              That is not the point, they did and I’m not going to rehash what the obvious point is.

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              • jx says:

                Yes it is the point.

                If it’s so urgent why aren’t in town? Because the devious Speaker sent them home.

                And frankly this bill is trash.

                Politicians are the problem, not a virus. Governors and mayors are destroying livelihoods and economies and Congress is looting the future. Politicians need to sit down and shut the hell up, Americans need to get back to work.

                The corona-scam is bs. Far more people die of flu or pneumonia and we don’t let politicians destroy the United States over it.

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                • butch cassidy says:

                  So your answer to this entire crisis is there is no crisis and that we should have done nothing. You are delusional at best, and I’m being nice.

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                • jx says:

                  Butch-

                  Is there a virus? Yes. Can some people die from it? Yes. Is the government over-reacting? Yes, massively so.

                  The “crisis” is out of control government.

                  Flu is more deadly than this. We don’t destroy ourselves for flu or pneumonia.

                  It was obvious in February that CDC forecasts were unreasonably high, yet they wait until the end of March to start backing away from those forecasts.

                  Fauci could have been a physician, but he had to be a slobbering partisan.

                  The statisticians at covidactnow that some governors relied on could have been statisticians, but they had to run websites dedicated to “stop Trump”.

                  The government reactions are ridiculous.

                  Evil arrives suddenly and is slow to depart.

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  23. JohnCasper says:

    In a nation of 330 million (360 million counting illegal aliens) 1,500 premature dead in the USA is statistical noise. Crateringf the economy with authoritarianism and ushering in anyone but Trump Term Two will prove far deadlier to the people of our country than this ChiCom flu.

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  24. BobC says:

    Just a small diversion from the big issue of the day and evidence that other important business is being dealt with by PDJT.

    On Thursday, the President signed this bill:

    “S. 1678, the “Taiwan Allies International Protection and Enhancement Initiative (TAIPEI) Act of 2019,” which requires the Department of State to report to Congress on steps taken by the United States government to strengthen Taiwan’s diplomatic relations with other partners in the Indo-Pacific region and alter United States’ engagement with nations that undermine the security or prosperity of Taiwan.”

    If you’re still around, A2, I would value your take on this. It seems big!!

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    • A2 says:

      I posted it yesterday. Very good. Taiwan has been bullied internationally by the PRC and denied membership to the WHO and other international bodies by the heft of PRC influence.

      It was Taiwan that first alerted the WHO about the virus. no response.

      I will not go into the history, but I look forward to the day when an unleashed President Trump says that the PRC is part of Taiwan (Republic of China, its official name that The PRC has forced countries to deny).

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  25. sarasotosfan says:

    Comment re the “asymptomatic carriers” who have tested “positive”.

    These people are either within the tolerance of the false positives or the test is simply a crappy one.

    In China, I would wager the latter is TRUE. But no one wants to mention this. I wonder why? /s

    Have a great day!

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    • If the tests are for antibodies, they will simply test that you may have been exposed at some time in the past. And, they could easily be testing for the virus strains that cause … the common cold.

      Furthermore – since Congress has now foolishly approved trillions of dollars to “magically rain down from the sky,” you can be certain that everyone within reach will be manipulating their data so as to “deserve” the most of it. Money talks.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        It always amazes me that people don’t realize, or won’t admit, that their ‘help’ has undesirable consequences. All such ‘help’ does.

        Likewise with ‘measurements’ of humans. Goal setting at work, with reward and punishment implied, always warps behavior. And not usually in the manner intended. I have even seen this in measuring or monitoring charitable actions, where the only incentive is to be thought a good person.

        I recently filled out census online. Talk about measurements and consequences. But tell me, how many centuries does it take before you can consider your ancestors to be American?

        And when thinking about the consequences of aid, remember this. The people who rescue injured wild animals have to be very careful to not let their lifesaving aid destroy the animals’ ability to survive in the wild. Reliance on humans is a bad thing. Even acceptance of humans can cause bad consequences. What does aid destroy in humans?

        And frankly, these creeps pushing reliance on government demonstrate time and again their willingness to hold us hostage for their other goals. (Nancy and Chuck.) Worse, all their aid to the masses are just leftover crumbs from the feasts of government largesse they use to fatten their big donors and themselves. (Obama phones vs Solyndra loans.)

        What are these people doing to make sure you can succeed in life without their aid? Or do they want us permanently addicted and reliant on them?

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  26. IGiveUp says:

    China Must Release the Secret Records of the Wuhan Biolabs

    It’s time for Beijing to come clean.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/27/china-must-release-the-secret-records-of-the-wuhan-biolabs/

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  27. IGiveUp says:

    Am Spectator: Overreacting To A Serious Situation
    https://spectator.org/overreacting-to-a-serious-situation/

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      Key quote:

      Crises bring out the best and the worst in people. For those with agendas, it’s an opportunity; for those filled with hate, it’s a time to assign blame and fuel anger; for the fearful, it’s time to hoard, withdraw, and encourage others to be scared; for true leaders, it’s a time to step up and comfort, protect, and provide guidance. Unfortunately a large part of our media (with their desire for sensationalism, wanting to be “first,” and having agendas that blur sound judgment) have chosen to feed our fears and fuel our problems.

      And, now that trillions(!) of dollars are going to rain down out of the sky, we’re going to hear everyone now screaming that they “deserve” to get more of it.

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      • annieoakley says:

        A large part of the ‘media’ seem very young and poorly educated and hysterical. Then if they go against what is wanted by their employers, they are fired.

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    • Kitty-Kat says:

      LIKE!!!

      The numerical comparisons to other contagions give a lot of perspective.

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    • 100% YOOPER says:

      Most excellent read! Thank you for sharing.

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  28. Co says:

    New York has lost a staggering 20,000 hospital beds over the last two decades to budget cuts and insurance overhauls, complicating local and state efforts to battle the coronavirus, according to records and experts.

    The Empire State had 73,931 licensed hospital beds in 2000 before years of cuts and closures shrank the number to just 53,000 in 2020, according to records obtained by the New York State Nurses Association from the state Health Department and stats provided by officials.

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday the health officials believe they will need anywhere from 55,000 to 110,000 hospital beds to treat the expected wave of coronavirus victims.

    “New York has closed too many beds. They went too far,” said Judy Wessler, former head of the NY Commission on the Public’s Health System, about the 28 percent drop in beds.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/new-york-has-thrown-away-20000-hospital-beds-complicating-coronavirus-fight/?fbclid=IwAR26PlJdSjLizdMH5MfWwYdijdGfJ-uiph2zc8BplyEOAaq5zt8yzW92Ges

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    • scrap1ron says:

      I live next to one of those throw away hospitals. First opened in the early 1960’s, I worked there washing dishes in the kitchen after getting home from high school. Cuomo allowed it to close on Feb. 2nd of this year. 200 jobs lost, and now he’s whining we need hospital beds.

      This is a common occurrence in many Democrat mismanaged States. People can still vote with their feet and move to better managed areas of the country. However, elect a Democrat as President this November and you’ll have NO WHERE TO RUN.

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  29. Jesse says:

    Folks,

    I’m not sure why everyone is so scared of this virus. Statistically, it’s probably not going to affect you. I’m going to make a comparison and it’s using religion. Do you remember the bible story about Jesus casting the demons out of the man at the tombs? This man had been haunted by evil spirits for years – he’d been chained, broken the chains and was driven into the wilderness. When Jesus approached him and asked his name the demons replied their name was ‘legion’ for they were many. The demons knew that Jesus was going to cast them out and asked if they could go into a herd of swine that was feeding nearby instead of the abyss. Jesus allowed them to do so. Jesus cast the demons out, the demons entered the herd of swine, ran them into the sea and drowned them.

    The swine herders went into the city to tell the people what happened. When the people came to find out what happened, they saw the previously mentioned possessed man clothed, sitting at Jesus feet and in his right mind. And Luke says the people were afraid. They asked Jesus to depart from them because of their fear.

    Think about that for a minute. They could see the man who had been possessed was in his right mind and no longer possessed. That was something they didn’t understand. They could see the herd of pigs was drowned in the sea – that was something they didn’t understand. And they were afraid. Because they were afraid of something they didn’t understand, they sent their chance of salvation away.

    Fear makes us do funny things. It makes us do rash things and we don’t fully comprehend what it is that we are doing because we’re afraid. God did not give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of peace. God knows the beginning from the end. He knew this was going to happen.

    I have faith that God will bring us through this trial. If you want to have the same peace, all you have to do is ask Jesus to come into your heart. He will provide you with the same peace that he has provided countless others. He loves you. God bless you and your family in this difficult time.

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    • Publius2016 says:

      great reading…ty

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    • Mike Robinson says:

      Never did understand why Jesus said “yes” to that, nor why the demons asked. I’ve seen many a “crazy pig” in my time but I didn’t know that demons did or could hang out there … 🤔 Maybe the pigs ran into the sea (which somehow must not have been far away …) in order to get rid of them.

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      • 7delta says:

        “Legion” recognized Jesus and knew, at the end, Satan and his demons will be cast into the lake of fire and, at all times, Jesus has the power and authority to send them. They didn’t want to go before they had to. 

        I’m sure there are better in-depth explanations for why Jesus obliged, but my earthly mind gets the simple one that pigs were considered unclean, as the demons certainly were too, so He allowed them to go into the pigs, then let the crazed pigs stampede to their deaths to show how unclean spirits will enter unclean hosts, destroy their minds and lives, then lead them into death. Sort of a visual metaphor, I guess. 

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    • jephfree says:

      Nice! running off the steep bank teaches us that pigs can’t fly, but their for a season swine flew!

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    • Amy2 says:

      Thanks Jesse! May I add that you need only believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit will enter everywhere in you, including your heart! “May the God peace dwell in you richly.”

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  30. Here’s another dispatch from the Blue Belly of the Beast, the People’s Commie Republic of NY from the local Gannett media (used to call it a newspaper).

    What Cuomo and the Demon Rats who run this hell hole are most concerned about is losing money for EDUCATION. Not HEALTH, not restoring hospital beds, NOT SAVING LIVES, but EDUCATION.

    What that means is paying off their NYSUT thugs to vote for them but more important- to keep inflicting that Commie propaganda into our children so that when another phony “crisis” like the Chi Com Flu occurs, they will be just lie their similarly educated parents and go gently into the dark night of serfdom and slavery.
    Face it folks- there is no real resistance to this Tyranny, at least not in the Blue States except maybe in the Upstate communities that are still conservative Red/ Republican. We do have a few good Congressmen and women like Elise Stefanik.

    https://www.lohud.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/03/27/how-new-york-city-became-coronavirus-pandemic-epicenter-what-know/2924735001/?utm_source=lohud-Daily%20Briefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero

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  31. Patience says:

    2020 Census VIA the Corona-Bill

    How many adults
    >How many children
    >Last year’s income
    >Where do you bank

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  32. freespeechfanatic says:

    If you live in a blue state or city, be aware that your leaders want you to die. Your greatest usefulness to them at the moment is to be a grim statistic. Should you become infected, the last thing they want is for you live and talk about it.

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  33. Hello NY Residents! It seems that King Cuomo has forbidden the use of Chloroquine, etc to treat the Corona virus. Here is part of Executive Order 202.10 dated 3/23:

    “No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription. No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.”

    I guess that explains why he is looking for more ventilators – he has no intention of allowing you to be treated, but would rather that you pass on.

    Where are you Tucker? Where are you Laura? Where are you Hannity?

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    • I bet Cuomo flunked finger painting in kindergarten.
      If the “truth” and “common sense” were contagious, there would be an epidemic in DC.

      Liked by 1 person

    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      New Yorkers elected their leaders so let them live under their leadership.

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      • Redzone says:

        Motch- thats exactly what I said when they all started taking off down to FL. They should be forced to stay until their Supreme Leader gives the “all clear.”

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    • sync says:

      Gov. Cuomo: NY hospitals starting hydroxychloroquine treatment now
      Mar. 24, 2020 – 2:06 – Governor Andrew Cuomo says New York has increased testing to the highest level in the U.S. and the drug hydroxychloroquine is now being used in hospitals

      https://video.foxnews.com/v/6144369341001#sp=show-clips

      Due to the increase in numbers of COVID-19 cases, New York is set to launch a clinical trial for an experimental drug treatment Tuesday
      The FDA cleared the way for New York to experiment with the malaria and lupus drug hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic Zithromax (generic name azithromycin) as a treatment for COVID-19

      https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/new-york-starts-new-experimental-drug-therapies-to-treat-covid-19-heres-what-we-know/2341931/

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    • Yadent says:

      What’s to prevent an out-of-state pharmacy from dispensing ? Lots of legit Canadian pharmacies out there….

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      • Thanks, but timing may be an issue

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        • Yadent says:

          Isn’t it always? In NY, NV, MI, one cannot obtain it until one is hospitalized. If one is DX with the virus and obtains an RX, one at least has an OPPORTUNITY to obtain said medication before hospitalization is required. H-ll, if a loved one was sick, I’d DRIVE with my RX to the nearest dispensing pharm. You want to stay out of the hospital!!!

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    • OhNoYouDont says:

      Q Thank you. Both the World Health Organization, as recently as today, and your own health officials have said that any treatments that we use for coronavirus should be scientifically demonstrated to be effective. But at the same time, you’ve said that chloroquine, as an example, could be used as a cure very soon. So is the WHO and your health officials wrong on this point? Are they —

      THE PRESIDENT: So, hydroxychloroquine, which is supposed to be the better of the two, seems to have some good backing. We’re going to see.

      Look, Governor Cuomo — we’ve given him 10,000 units; that’s a lot — and they’re testing it. It’s a malaria drug. It’s also a drug for arthritis. But — and it’s phenomenal for those two things, as you probably know, especially for malaria. But we’re going to find out soon. I hope it works. It’s — there are signs that it could be doing well. They are testing 10,000 units. That’s a lot.

      And I tell you what: I want to thank the FDA because they approved it immediately, based on the fact that it was already out for a different purpose. They approved it immediately.

      So, look, hydroxychloroquine is — is a very powerful drug for certain things, and it’s a very successful drug. There’s reason to believe that it could be successful here. Now, the reason I disagree with you — and I think Tony would disagree with me — but the reason I disagree with you is that we have a pandemic. We have people dying now. If we’re going to go into labs and test all of this for a long time, we can test it on people right now who are in serious trouble, who are dying. If it works, we’ve done a great thing. If it doesn’t work, you know, we tried.

      But this is not something that’s going to kill people. So, we can go in and we can test, or we can take our time. When I was with the FDA, you know, they indicated that, “Well, we’ll start working on it right away, and it could take a year.” I said, “What do you mean a year? We have to have it tonight.” If we don’t have it tonight — I want to test it immediately because it’s on the market in a different form. So, we know that. So, from a safety standpoint, at least, we know that.

      But you’re talking about giving it to people who, in many cases, are dying. So we want to do with the way — this is sort of like Right to Try. We got Right to Try approved. For —

      Q Could I ask you —

      THE PRESIDENT: John, for 44 years or more, they couldn’t get it approved. We have the best labs, the best doctors. They couldn’t get it. I got it approved. Now, if somebody is terminally ill, and if we think we have something that’s going to work, we can actually use it; they can use it.

      And I’ll tell you what: You ought to do — when this is over, you got to do a story on that because we have had some tremendous results.
      —–
      March 28, 2020

      Subject: Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing

      poolreports – 2 hours ago

      https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-vice-president-pen-1842538474

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      • Sentient says:

        Requiring hydroxychloroquine to be “scientifically proven to be effective” means (to them) a randomly controlled trial. In other words, a double-blind trial where half of the people are given a placebo. People facing probable imminent death want the medicine, not a 50% chance of getting the medicine. So Cuomo is giving them an offer they can’t refuse: be part of our trial or get nothing. This is shocking to us when we hear anecdotal evidence of hydroxychloroquine working, but it’s actually how medicines are routinely tested for efficacy. I’m not saying Cuomo is doing it right. It could actually cost him the presidential election this fall.

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        • Robert Smith says:

          I understand why, in the end, having the FDA put a stamp of approval on it good to have.

          But the circumstances say that many people could die without it – unless they have some other treatments to offer? That’s why it doesn’t make sense to severely narrow doctor’s choices.

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  34. TJ says:

    President Trump’s job approval numbers are now quickly surging to the best figures of his 3.5 year-old presidency.

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  35. burnett044 says:

    beware some will try to handle the virus by blowing smoke up ya arze..

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  36. Ausonius says:

    Concerning Chinese Communist criminality involved throughout this attack: I am reminded of Chinese villains in movies from the old days (e.g. Fu Manchu movies), who often would say:

    “Too bad for you, Round Eye!”

    We can trust nothing from them, nothing. When President Trump says he has a good relationship with Dictator Xi, I am assuming he means that the man cannot be trusted, and that everything must be interpreted through a prism of distrust.

    I have written before that doing business with the Chinese is ultimately a way to destroy ourselves, since practically no contracts with them will be followed precisely and no products from them will have quality. Doing business with the Communist Chinese and their pseudo-capitalism is a slow way to commit suicide, not unlike being massaged everywhere with warm, fragrant, seductive oils…

    …and simultaneously strangled.

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  37. sync says:

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    • TJ says:

      Mini-Mike Marionette

      $2.2 million

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    • Patriot1783 says:

      Absurd
      Where is the Sergeant at Arms? I don’t care which party you are from if you abuse your time and that gavel hits and says out of time, hits again and says you are no longer recognized, hits a third time and says out of order, they need to be physically removed in order to restore order.
      What’s next for Congress, physical fights like seen in other counties??

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  38. TJ says:

    Social distancing: Jumping on police cars in France

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  39. sync says:

    Cuomo has single handedly destroyed New York/s economy…he is getting scared now

    “Sweeping statewide quarantine orders may not have been the most effective strategy to combat the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded on Thursday, as he weighed plans to restart the economy.

    “We closed everything down. That was our public health strategy,” said Cuomo during an Albany press briefing. “If you re-thought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say ‘Quarantine everyone.’”

    It’s the third day in a row that Cuomo has publicly mused about quarantines and how best to eventually restart the Empire State’s shattered economy.

    But Wednesday, Cuomo’s answer during an hour-long news conference about quarantines — which are backed by city and state health officials — took a new turn as he speculated it might have spread the disease.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/cuomo-admits-that-quarantine-may-have-backfired-in-some-cases/

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    • Don McAro says:

      Cuomo has another big problem on his hands….People are now realizing that NY is a magnet for terrorism…. And by no means was NY ready for anything… they had no supplies or planning for available for any catastrophic event.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      The problem as dim-wit might be realizing is with no standard for no shutdown before, to shutdown… how can he reopen NY without the “…if we just save one life” BS argument. Completely destroying your economy just means other places will benefit if they jump on the opportunity.

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  40. JCM800 says:

    Section 212(f) of the 1965 immigration act says:

    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

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  41. Don McAro says:

    Anyone know what the vegas odds are this morning?
    Who has the better chance?
    A Smuggler getting into the country from Mexico with a bag of Heroine?
    Or a person with NY plates getting into Rhode Island

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    • Child of Morning says:

      I get your point, but the uncomfortable truth is that isolating hot-zones is the only way to curtail the spread of the virus. I applaud RI. I would be keeping folks from New Orleans out of my state as well.

      This is actually the true roll of a sane federal govt. we have lockdowns imposed by state and local governments. But they are not really lockdowns. You are able and welcome, if mot encouraged to leave. So when it seems you are living in a developing hot zone, those who can, will flee, many taking the disease with them.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Pretty soon drug dealers will be doing good business selling HQ on the streets.

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  42. StanH says:

    Confirmed (WuHan Flu) ” FYI”
    597,252
    +67,638
    Deaths
    27,365
    +3,651
    Recovered
    133,363

    Hmmm…27,365 Deaths in 5 months worldwide. Though tragic, statistically insignificant.

    1. 1889 Russian Flu Pandemic – about 1 million flu deaths
    2. “Spanish flu” A of 1918-19 caused the highest number of influenza-related deaths: approximately 500,000 deaths occurred in the U.S. and 20 million worldwide. That figure is more than the total number of deaths caused by the World War one — 16 million. As a matter of fact, during that year, the flu had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history.
    3. “Asian flu” A of 1957-58 caused 70,000 deaths in the United States and about one million to two million deaths worldwide
    4. “Hong-Kong flu” A of 1968-69 resulted in 34,000 deaths in the United States and an estimated one million to three million people died worldwide.
    5. 2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic – about 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide

    What do “they” know that we don’t, or this panic is intentional.

    “What wouldn’t “they” do?” Trillions are at stake,

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    • Sentient says:

      They know that pandemics start small and grow rapidly – like the fact that the US had a couple hundred confirmed cases three weeks ago and over 100,000 now.

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  43. Due Gonzalez says:

    If this has not been done already by the Coronavirus task force, it should be done immediately. There needs to be a subgroup working specifically on the drug issue. Bring in a representative from each group who needs to be there including MDs, hospitals, state and federal agencies, and yes lawyers who specialize in this area and get the recommendations for the use of these drugs done now! Today. Then call a meeting with the state governors and state attorney generals and TELL them what those guidelines are and tell them what is expected for them to do. The public should not have to be wondering if anything can be done to prevent these states from stopping MDs from prescribing these meds. Get everyone on a virtual meeting now! There is no reason this is not being done. They did this to some extent for other issues such as feeding children now that schools out. This is far more important and there should be various laws and regulations that apply in an international/National Healthcare emergency that has shut down our country. Common sense. Time to play hardball.

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  44. lolli says:

    These governors, withholding access to a drug that can save a life, seem to forget that each of these people have friends/and or family that will never forget. Will these governors be in hiding from now on?
    I don’t know, just wondering.

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    • Due Gonzalez says:

      Imagine being the healthcare team watching your patients die due to politics and regulations when there was a good chance they could have been saved. They should have been given a chance. Talk about psychological scaring and trauma.

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  45. chrismaurer1 says:

    At least now everyone is saying what we all know – this thing is bio-engineered, manmade. China’s insatiable rush to be a global superpower continues to put the world in peril. American’s now see, unfortunately, under the worst conditions, how their nefarious leaders in public and private sectors have sold them out. Hopefully enough Americans see this ‘China Problem’ and hopefully enough have the resolve to commit to a long term, political and private sector America First Policy.

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  46. cosmicbluehippo says:

    The soldiers of Oriskany. Gettysburg, Belleau Woods, Omaha Beach, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Hue, Fallujah are very sad right now.

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