President Donald Trump sent the following letter [pdf here] to our nations’ governors in response to the national COVID-19 crisis:
He left out, “don’t be an idiot (Nevada I’m talking to you).”
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Don’t forget Fredo’s older brother in New York.
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Cuomo may not be the chosen one. It appears he realizes that Trump is looking good. Cuomo could be discarded faster than Bloomberg. He is avoiding criticizing Trump. CNN has stopped kissing his arse. And he has been second guessing the shutdown. Cuomo may destroy New York financially. Deblassio is toast. 2 more victims for the Trump boomerang. If Cuomo was the chosen one the DNC would be hiding Biden. This is not going to be the Trump recession. Trump is now emphasize the seriousness of the virus and owning the downside. Which in Trump speak means a solution is in place. Trump always refuses to own the buck on anyone’s terms. But he always owns the downside before he reveals the solution. “It wasn’t my fault. Nobody ever had to deal with something like this. If it wasn’t for this team it would have been worse. Thank goodness I solved this. Nobody ever handled a situation better. People tell me I did the best job in history. If you weren’t fake news you would be saying so too.”
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Speaking of Bloomberg, Did you notice that in the Press Briefing Mr. Trump asked Bloomberg’s reporter How Mini Mike was doing? Mumble. Mumble. I could not hear the response.
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Thank you. I hereby dub your comment my news source for the day. Satisfying, even filling.
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“It wasn’t my fault. Nobody ever had to deal with something like this. If it wasn’t for this team it would have been worse. Thank goodness I solved this. Nobody ever handled a situation better. People tell me I did the best job in history. If you weren’t fake news you would be saying so too.”
See…these comments show what a great leader he is…all this gloom and doom and he makes us all laugh…what a guy.
PDT just made me realize… liberals have no sense of humor.
Seriously madeline? I thought leftists (they are not TRUE liberals!) lack of any humor and joy was an obvious trait that I thought EVERYONE knew about!!!
This ^. Thank you, Bill Durham.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: “the chosen one is Hillary Clinton.”
Her backers are accustomed to a world where you make a deposit with the Clinton Foundation and Madame Presidente signs the bill that your corporation put through Congress, “properly lubricated all the way through.” They continue to believe that she is the rightful Presidente and that 2016 was merely a mistake to be remedied. They learned nothing from the experience but continue to deny it. And they will continue to do so, expecting that election fraud will ensure that the outcome of the 2020 election, and all future elections, can be preordained. It will be very convenient for them when they can tell their backers, “X will win, and here’s what the election outcome map is going to look like. It no longer matters what the American people think.” They’re pushing for that as hard as they can. Nancy Pelosi tried to insert “ballot box stuffing” into the latest must-pass bill but was caught in the act. She’ll try again. Because this is how these people think.
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I believe the Dems have chosen to lose the White House and are directing all their energy to the congressional races. Watch Pelosi et al in California in districts that are by any measure except ballot harvesting Republican. Watch the Senate races. Flip the Senate and there go the judicial appointments. If they keep the House, expect more of what we have seen the last two years. Biden is their sacrificial lamb. Since he is not without defect, those offering it should read Malachi 2:3.
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I agree great observation.
Sisolak is a fool. He is totally freaked out.
Yeah, by design. Sissylak is acting freaked out. Some of us call it fearmongering, which it is. Just like enemedia has been doing forever now.
Gordon Brown came out today calling for a temporary global government to “combat this global epidemic”. He too is spreading gloom and doom over a fake crisis virus less lethal than the common flu.
We all know that’s bullsh!t, and that NOTHING that “government” ever “makes legal” for it to do is temporary. It’s go time for Patriots worldwide to stomp out ANY efforts to enforce unnatural “laws” (they aren’t law when they’re unnatural, right? Right!) or edicts put forth by the UN or any other newly found totalitarian entity they may come up with.
This is it. The battle for freedom, liberty, and sovereignty as well as the pursuit of happiness. Who among hasn’t lived their lives knowing that things are wrong but in fear of those who made them wrong. “Government”. The very word is as repugnant as is the term “secret societies.” JFK was right.
JFK was right. Absolutely.
Live free or die…..time for massive civil disobedience?
Right in any section…
Yes, I would go in a minute
And mentioning our rights are being abused, severely. I trust there’s a method to what he’s doing. He’s clearly being careful to be avoid giving media any easy targets for him trash taking anyone. The high road approach it would appear. I suspect the fireworks come once he relaxes guidelines and they don’t.
needs to add: “…return path…safety and prosperity for all our citizens AND our Constitutional Republic” i.e. we notice your extreme power grabs!!!
Throughout his Presidency, he has scrupulously followed the Constitution.
And, in this handling of the virus, I believe he has shown himself to be very much a Federalist, as in the papers AND society.
He has done what the Federal government does well, marshalling all the Departments of the Executive, as well as Business and the General Public, to deal with the Emergency.
But, he has left it up to each Govenor, to decide how,THEY want to handle it, at a State level. He Federalised the,National Guard, but ONLY to assure Govenors that the,Federal government would pay the Bill, while leaving each Govenor to use them as he/she sees fit.
Federal government to search, world wide for scarce resources, but not to bid against states, etc.
His responce has been near perfect.
And, its brilliant politically, as Govenors own the downside of what happens in their State, and they look petty for critisising him.
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Post of the Day, Dutchman!
POTUS always ASSIGNS ownership where it rightfully belongs, with Governors OWNING the ChiComVirus SOLUTIONS for their States, including
• RECOVERY from INFECTION [No Hydroxychloroquine, SLOW Recovery]
• RESTARTING their ECONOMIES [Delayed Restart, DEPARTING Businessees]
Demo☭rats are desperately trying to trigger POTUS to “violate” the 10th Amendment for an October SCAMpeachment attempt. Will NEVER work.
Latest trigger-pulls come from Demo☭rat Governors (NV, MI, etc.) threatening-to-intimidate doctors and pharmacies who might prescribe Hydroxychloroquine to hasten ChiComVirus recovery and thwart its spread … in Demo☭rats’ attempt to drive economic ruin into the 2020 Election.
BOOMERANG IMPLICATION: This will create HOTSPOT COUNTIES in Demo☭rat States.
POTUS for the WIN: His letter to Governors reveals his War-on-ChiComVirus Team will be designating COUNTIES-at-RISK (Low-Medium-HIGH).
Demo☭rats for the LOSS: Hotspots drive ISOLATION!
• PARIAH States: Rhode Island is setting up Border Checkpoints!
• PARIAH Counties: Neighboring Counties will do the same!
• PARIAH State & County Leaders LOSE in the 2020 Election.
Well, if mine is post of day, so is yours. He’s got this,…
Right on Dutch.
OK. Tell me why it’s bad to withhold a drug for an illness if the person doesn’t have the illness. Ohio seems to be on the money with this. What am I missing?
Cuomo: Not sure if closing all businesses, keeping everyone home was ‘the best public health strategy’
Oh my…sounds like Andy knows the whole ball of panic stricken wax is unraveling before their eyes and he better change his tune ASAP before the newer numbers come out next week…Dr. Brix already set the table today for those announcements! The country is PISSED and they are going to start taking their frustration out on the politicians who wrecked their businesses and their livelihoods!
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Mom- PREACH IT.
Type the year you were born into the GIF search pic.twitter.com/ZxoLcIzmSc
— Chris Illuminati (@chrisilluminati) March 26, 2020
Type the year you were born into the GIF search pic.twitter.com/ZxoLcIzmSc
— Chris Illuminati (@chrisilluminati) March 26, 2020
Lol sorry , I meant this tweet ( though this is very funny) 👇
Epicenter #NYC's new #WuhanCoronavius cases dropped by over 1K today.This must be devastating to many modelers and media outlets. I guess they can still search for horrifying individual cases to frighten people. There should be plenty. pic.twitter.com/VU3uTeB6Q3
— Hong Zhang, PhD (@hz_udhr) March 27, 2020
Epicenter #NYC's new #WuhanCoronavius cases dropped by over 1K today.This must be devastating to many modelers and media outlets. I guess they can still search for horrifying individual cases to frighten people. There should be plenty. pic.twitter.com/VU3uTeB6Q3
— Hong Zhang, PhD (@hz_udhr) March 27, 2020
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This is the answer.
I wonder if chloroquine would have saved those who have died from this virus? I think the CDC needs to asked some serious questions. So I agree with Sundance, for whatever that’s worth.
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I think the CDC needs to be asked some serious questions!
What if all of us copied the tweet and posted? Would they remove all of us? Sundance, just say the word…
Just a social experiment
Cuomp & De Blasio deserve everything they get thrown on them, especially De Blasio who did absolutely nothing, letting everybody hang out together, etc.
That’s why NYC is now the epicenter.
No they are positioning Cuomo.as the voice of reason .
They will switch when the data reveals its not that bad and try to turn it on P Trump.
It will that he provided leadership PTrump did not and the media will buy into it hook, line and sinker.
Fredo’s brother just got an update on sales tax revenue because they are not selling $6 beers and prepared ready to eat hot meals. The sales were moved to non taxable groceries in the supermarket.
He also has to own that unemployment number.
Somebody probably showed him revenue projections that put the state on the edge of the abyss. All those New Yorkers that fled to Florida, are they coming back?
But the liquor stores are open
Would’ve been sacked had they been ordered closed.
Damn Sync that’s actually a very good sign. Thank you for sharing. It’s a signal that he and his ilk are willing to follow Trump’s lead and get people back into action (I hope). SD’s talk about the 2 parties playing a game of oneupmanship is terrifying. The fallout of that happening is more than most of you would care to imagine I suspect. I’m no fool to think politics hasn’t or won’t be played. But the next several months those that play will be participating in very serious game. A game where no one wins only loses. There are ideologues in history who would attempt it. I don’t believe any modern day politician in the US would want to lose that badly. There comes a point that sacrificing your amenities are not worth it to become some power lord. If this economic engine throws multiple rods there’s nothing in it for lefties. And I believe even they understand this even if it means Trump is re-elected.
luke – Apparently you don’t consider Pelosi and Schumer as modern day politicians. Their hate for America and love of Chinese money blinds them to everything else.
I don’t have any regard for either; especially Pelosi. But I think there’s a category even above those 2 if that makes sense.
Like a boss!! Even though I live in one of the counties that has been hit the hardest, I believe that this approach will significantly reduce the massive economical harm that the current Chicken Little policies have caused! The President wants to get the country back to work and I support him FULLY in his efforts!!
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Hi Viking Mom, question for you: Do you know if the country you live in has any idea how many people who have been carrying this virus, even spreading it, yet never showing any symptoms? That number is vital and I am not sure if they can even find out if a person recovered. Obviously most of the ones that do (if any) ever go to get tested. If we could ever figure out that number and came to the conclusion it was many that never showed symptoms we could understand the morbidity NOT morality rate. That’s what really matters is how many infected become really sick. If that is a small number than woo hoo. If the majority of people who contract this highly infectious disease have harsh symptoms it’s best we slow our roll and let this virus fizzle out as much as possible.
I think what characterizes this “new” virus is that it is both dangerous yet strangely non-threatening; it is dangerous because it is very quick to get a foothold in the body — even to those used to routine maintenance of their immune system — but once there, it stumbles around, causing various symptoms that seem menacing, but only become actually dangerous in the elderly and immune-system compromised. So there are, in fact, many who get it but don’t show serious symptoms. The well-known observations, that the average age of those who succumb is high and that few if any children even “get” it — to all observation — are entirely consistent with this, and should, I believe, be understood to show that the virus is in fact relatively weak, in the overwhelming majority of the population. If someone finds themselves getting a vague “bug” now, it is probably this one; it’s just not the demon we are all being led to believe, by “experts” who are only “expert” in vaccinations, but not in immune system protection and support in the individual (they are using a large hammer, instead of the needed jeweler’s screwdriver, applied individually to the finely-designed human body).
People need to individually take responsibility for supporting their immune system, both at the first slightest sign in the nose and/or throat, and in defending it when this or any bug gets well inside. And that means taking the best immune defense herbs you can find, AND TAKING MUCH MORE OF THEM THAN IS RECOMMENDED ON THE BOTTLES (because that is only a “maintenance” dose, at best, not a protection against an active virus invader. Plus don’t touch anything you don’t have to, and use sanitizer when you do have to.
But who listens? Not the Insane Left, and dedicated fear-mongers, who are the REALLY dangerous virus.
Good information and a better than average chance that you are correct.
Great question…to which, unfortunately no one seems to have a clear answer, which, I believe is part of what is driving the current fear based narratives! In a “normal” flu season, there is usually a wide range of people who contract the flu, based on the assumption that MANY people who get it will just stay home and self medicate. But with COVID19 that assumption is NOT being used for some reason and it is, IMHO why this appears to be so much more serious.
I also would like to get a clear answer as to what the normal hospital bed capacity is for my area, including the number of ICU beds, but, again, no one seems to have an answer. I was lambasted online for asking the question and told that it would be a violation of HIPPA for a hospital to publicly announce how many patients they currently had and what percentage of their capacity that number was, which has absolutely nothing to do with HIPPA!
Someone else responded to my request with the following comment: “Maybe you don’t need to see the data. Maybe you just need to read and follow the guidance and rules like EVERYONE ELSE!”
Sorry, but I am NOT going to just willingly give up my civil liberties and watch my friends and family lose their businesses, and their livelihoods because someone in the Government tells me it’s for my own good!!
“Under these DATA-DRIVEN criteria”
“Under the false DATA-DRIVEN criteria”
Yes. Yes, they do matter.
This is where the finger prick test comes in, and whereas in the past it would have taken years to get one approved, I think Dr. Berk said the FDA is ready to approve, as soon as its available.
A BLOOD test, as opposed to a nasal swab, will test for antibodies, and tell if someone HAS had it.
The finger stick, will give near instant result, without the need of a lab.
THIS is whats needed, and once broadly disseminated, will give #’s which can be used to project total exposures.
I’m not thrilled about giving my DNA to the bureaucracy for no reason, if I am not symptomatic. 😕
Not giving your DNA, I don’t think. The finger prick test is testing for the specific antibodies to the virus.
They put a drop of your blood on a material. If the material changes color, you have the antibodies, if not you don’t.
Not nearly sophisticated as DNA, its a simple, binary test.
What was done to shoot down “23 and Me”, in order to keep MEDICAL DNA tests expensive, and how “ancestry” type DNA testing is being used to compile an extremely valuable DNA database, than CAN be exploited by a totalitarian gov…..is another, much longer topic.
But, I would not be concerned they are going to get everyones DNA from a fingerprick test for CV.
They have other ways of developing such a database.
Da Nada, and spread the word. I fear tyranical gov over reach as much as anyone, but broad testing with this fingerstick test, is the best way to get an idea of how many people are exposed but with no/minimal symptoms.
Don’t want people refusing for unrealistic concerns, Methinks.
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FWIW, New Hampshire has issued a stay at home policy. Starting 3/27 at 11:59 pm. Gas station, grocery, banks are about only things open. All non essential business to remain closed until May 4th. Unreal
And with ONE death so far.
And you have a Republican governor too. So much for that advantage. 😒
Sununu’s are Bushies
We need to known the morbidly rate not the mortality.
Republican means NOTHING, hasn’t for some time.
Just LOOK at the different NAMES we have; GOPe, RINO’S, NeverTrumpers, NeoCons, …ALL of whom hate PDJT, and are working to destroy him, EVERY bit as much as Nanzi Pelosi.
And remember, their NOT really after him, their after US. He’s just standing in their WAY.
Someone please tell me how we,are better off having Romney representing Utah, rather than a Democrat, please?
Being “Republican” is NOT enough.
If a candidate ain’t MAGA, they ain’t getting my vote.
I am with the “Dutchman” 100%.
Let us hope that ENOUGH Registered Republicans see it this way. And, that enough registered Independants are willing to give up the understandable “feel good” aspect of being able to say and think “I am an INDEPENDANT!” and re-register as, Republican.
And then, frankly to get off their ,….couches and get involved, at the LOCAL Republican party.
“Decisions are made, by those who show up!”
We will see how long the stay-at-home policy last especially when POTUS starts pushing for Americans to get back to work very soon and the weather is going to get warmer. The Governors are going to hear an earful from their constituents and from the businesses. I bet they start to walk back their ridiculous state-wide shutdowns.
Live free or die….time for civil disobedience?
Did they close all their vast natural resources to trap people inside where the virus lives?
Take it to the bank that many are trying to provoke a fight and uprising
May 4th? 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Clearing the decks. Setting the stage. April 12th, Easter, Resurrection Sunday, America will be back open for business.
Three weeks is an awful long time to watch your business swirl further down the toilet bowl. I can’t imagine these governors not falling in line. There will be hell to pay if they don’t. I can barely maintain as it is.
Sorry to hear about your hardship with your business prettistone. Something we have to keep in mind when thinking of business; it’s not the business, it’s the customers. If there is widespread fear (now) certain sectors of this economy will continue to hibernate. Doesn’t matter what Trump or any governor tells them to do or feel.
Thank you, Luke, but we need to open up and give them a chance to recover. Watching other people return to some normalcy will help to alleviate the anxiety in others. I live in an area that isn’t in a hotspot but is being treated as though we are. We need to use thoughtful approaches to move toward getting this country out of widespread lockdown. Understandably, the approach in areas like NYC will look much different than areas in Ohio.
Three weeks is too long unemployment is going to jump at least 2 % with 3.3 million that will double weekly .We could have 20 million out of work on three weeks😕
Businesses will not make it thru.
Just watched Hannity’s extensive interview with President Trump and it was excellent. POTUS is calm, competent, and is working the WuFlu problem on many levels. He’s thriving on this, no question. Not a single moment when it felt like he was out of his depth, in fact just the opposite. Nothing will ever convince me that President Trump’s election is anything less than divine intervention. Cometh the hour, cometh the man and just wait until the next term – wowsa!
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Delighted- Absolutely Divine Intervention. Nothing else explains it.
Our prayers were answered!
Is that like, “Oh-oh-oh, it’s MAGIC…You know-ow!”
Delight, SO agree with you.
God is behind this work to rebuild the wall as Nehemiah clearly believed: Nehemiah 2:2 “The God of heaven, he will prosper us; therefore we his servants will arise and build…” Chapters 3-6 record the building of the wall, concluding with Nehemiah 6:15-16 saying, “So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of …Jan 29, 2019
Love my president
Sounds like a plan. Time to tamp-down the mass hysterics and the pile-on politics. We need reliable data to implement this plan.
Hmmm, using a risk rating for every county could make it more difficult for demonrat/RINO governors to keep in lockdown counties that show low risk for the virus. They likely will claim they have better science than the feds have and try to continue or extend their lockdowns because killing the economy is their top priority, but it would make their decisions much more untenable.
Magabear: Not coincidentally, the risk maps will look like electoral maps. Everyone knows it.
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No doubt. The higher the illegal alien population and demonrat voter registration, the higher the health issues.
There was a time in America that county health directors could handle these situations easily. That was then, now we have filled our federal, state, county and city governments with grifters, liars, thieves, opportunists and traitors.
Diversity hiring policies
Letting them know what’s coming. It’s time to get back to work. You’ve screwed around long enough.
People are going to need to deal with their local politicians, some who will not let up with their communist ways. They are enjoying the power too much. Time for us to “Resist”.
Thank God for President Trump.
Best president of my lifetime, bar none.
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45 and his Team of Patriots are MAGA!
three tiered alert…depending upon contagion levels people will MOVE!
WATCH as these DIMM Governors demand to be placed on the lowest level!
” … DIMM Governors demand to be placed on the lowest level!”
Great! Republican states will get a wonderful head start on reviving their economies.
Seems to me its not JUST Republican States. This Care package is a boost to primarily MAIN STREET economic engine.
The Tarp was a boost to WALL STREET economic engine.
So, both in terms of his economic reset, and politically, this is actually benefitting PDJT’s policies, and politics.
CM-TX—Thank you! Definitely brought a chuckle. Catchy song. Already forwarded the video to others and had some great feedback! I will probably be humming the tune the next couple of days it is that good!
Reminds me too…..I am pretty low on Black Rifle Coffee. If the guys come over and I don’t have any…they would probably lock me out of my own house! It’s like they are afraid that if they were to drink something even remotely considered frou-frou and heavens forbid…if they were ever caught with a Starbucks coffee container they would be afraid they would lose their “man-card”. But…what can I say…the coffee is just great.
Thanks again for the chuckle!
Thank you so much, shared it with friends
You dudes got some gooooood lookin women there. Where in h*** are you?
I have never ever seen panic do a damn bit of good.
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Just happened to glance over at the tv, someone talking remotely – the usual bookcases of stuff – I always check those out – noticed something up there that said “ad astra . . ” from what I could see
. . . hey, that’s the slogan for Kansas (I know because I looked it up once a long time ago)
the doctor speaking was from Kansas . . .
it’s a very good old motto and quite timely!
from Wikipedia – regarding the motto:
Per aspera ad astra or ad astra per aspera
Per aspera ad astra (or, less commonly, ad astra per aspera) is a popular Latin phrase meaning “through hardships to the stars”. The phrase is one of the many Latin sayings that use the expression ad astra, meaning “to the stars”.
Coincidentally, “spectatus ad astra” is the motto for one of my other online presences. “Look to the stars.” A little artistic license, perhaps, but it serves well.
Kinda like Buzz Lightyear’s motto: To infinity and beyond!
His writers got it FROM the “ad astra” idea. It has been hugely popular ever since Jules Verne pointed the way.***
***Well, actually, it is the very foundation of mankind’s intellectual quest. “Heaven” was understood by the ancients as the celestial sphere — the stars, over our heads (and the stars were the souls of individuals who had passed on…thus, the hero of myth was in the end taken up to be among the stars, and thus immortal, a literary process that moderns label “catasterization”). So, technically, “ad astra” is our common, and exalted, destiny as human souls.
Thanks for this!
Everybody was Kung FLu Fighting.
Those politicos lied fast as lighting
In fact it was little bit frightening
By Trump fought with expert timing
Since there are no serious side effects to the drug that has proven to positively stop the bug, why not just hand out the pill to anyone that asks for it?
One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
And the ones that Blue States gives you, don’t do anything at all
Go ask Fauci, who’s two feet tall.
Because that simply isn’t true.
It can be deadly in interaction with other medicines taken by diabetics, cardiac patients and pregnant women. It can cause heart attacks, seizures and death to some patients.
You really must consult with your doctor. It’s dangerous to self-medicate. They are conducting clinical trials very rapidly, but until those are completed, hydroxychloroquine must remain a “last resort” drug, not a standard option for treatment. IT ISN’T PROVEN YET. Not for everyone.
Mikey, this sounds like the AMA party line. There’s absolutely NO reason HCQ, a long-proven medication, can’t be the first line medication for the covid virus! Of course doctors should check for the minority of people for whom it’s contraindicated, but for most people short term use is safe and effective.
Big Pharma just wants more time to come up with their version of a new ( read astronomically priced) medication to use in it’s stead. Let’s use common sense instead of bureaucratic red tape, shall we?
There’s common sense, which is “better than nothing”, and there’s qualified opinion, which is what you get from a licensed physician. I’m truly sorry that facts do sometimes ruffle feathers, but after decades of experience I’m aware it is sometimes necessary in service of truth.
Mikey, did you read my post? I mentioned doctors……
Consulting doctors and using common sense are not mutually exclusive ( at least not in most cases).
Hydroxychloroquine was the drug of choice to treat zika in pregnant women. The QT prolongation possibility means that patients should be screened & monitored if at higher risk for the complication. Chloroquine has been used since 1934 and is used as a prophylaxis in malarial countries for men women & children, millions & millions of doses. It is considered a very safe drug as confirmed by Dr Fauci. The drug is by prescription people can’t self medicate.
You are so right, Growl. I posted in yesterday’s thread that my husband’s sister in Bolivia said that 2 years ago, they gave her 11 year old granddaughter hydroxychloroquine to treat her cough. It was immediately successful and she is perfectly fine. When the men go hunting down there, in the Bolivian Amazon, they always take hydroxychloroquine with them. No side effects! These countries in South America know the benefits and they are not hampered by an FDA and/or greedy doctors or politicians.
Fauci and Bill Gates are looking for a more expensive drug (hydroxychloroquine was only $5 before this disaster) to create this vaccine they are trying to shove down our throats – a vaccine that will supposedly take “6months to a year” to create. What is that going to do for the people who are dying and suffering NOW? The lack of logic is astoundingly cruel, but par for the course. It’s all about the $$$ and the glory! Sickening beyond belief!
Good info. I was responding to the original poster, who was suggesting it should be available to “anyone who asks”, ie over-the counter. You need a doctor’s advice on it.
I agree completely, glad we are on the same page.
Natural herbal remedies that very effectively (!) protect and support the immune system do not suffer from the too-often dangerous side-effects of “modern medicines”. That’s why I (highly) recommend echinacea and goldenseal (and in large, not just “maintenance” doses that are what’s recommended on the bottles), and less talk about vaccines and modern mutts like “hydrochloroquine”. The whole public debate is wrong-headed, in limiting itself to always problematic and mercurial “vaccines”.
What is “large” dose quantities, for example…?
Listen to the list of warnings for ANY publicly marketed drug. No drug is safe for all patients at all times.
True, but hydroxychloroquine has serious, negative, life-threatening interactions with some other common medications. That’s why THIS drug must not be allowed “over-the-counter”.
Not so, regarding NO serious side effects. Its not without side effects.
Some are rare, but if they happen to you you wouldn’t like it.
For people with cardiac conditions, they need monitoring.
Going by memory, also a possibility of complications for diabetics.
People can have either of these conditions, and not KNOW.
While I am a firm believer in being very well informed and involved in my own medical treatment, I recognise that not everyone is knowledgeable enough to do so.
This medicine isn’t really a candidate for OTC.
I am getting more and more disturbed about Ohio’s director of health, a Democrat. She is predicting that Ohio will peak at 6000 by May 1. It sounds like they want to keep us on lockdown until at least then.
I was on a Town Hall phone call from my Representative, Anthony Gonzales and a physician. I was the first question. I asked about how Dr. Birx in the President’s daily conference said we should be seeing mass testing by next week. I asked them if those with mild symptoms can be tested and also how they are working on an antibody test to see if someone has already had the virus. They said maybe, but as it is, only testing going on in Ohio is for those with severe symptoms.
We had an opportunity to ask another question at the end by leaving a message. I asked how do we know if most people experience mild or no symptoms with testing?
Ohio has also stopped reporting negative test results. Doesn’t fit their narrative or agenda.
I just heard Johnson Co KS ( a suburb of KC) isn’t testing anyone who has less than severe symptoms. Right now the state’s incidence of the virus Is reportedly highest in that county. By only reporting the severe cases and not the people who have the virus but are convalescing at home, they’re skewing the data for Kansas. Purposely I’m sure, as our Dem governor gives Warren a run for her money!
Johnson County is the most densely populated county in the state, so the incidence is higher. You can drive across the rest of the state and see a whole lot of nothing for mile after mile after mile. (Try doing that every summer with three kids!)
Isn’t she the one that last week said 100000 people in the state already had it?
You are right on the money with Amy Acton. She is not to be trusted. She is a former Obama campaign activist from 2008. A Wired article featured her when she was know as Amy Beech. Her and her current husband and her family are hard core Dems. https://www.wired.com/2008/03/inside-obamas-surging-net-roots-campaign/ She runs the daily talking points, “we don’t to be like Italy and choose who gets a ventilator”..All the narratives Dr. Birx warned against today. She originally stated ‘that we know 1% of our population of 11.7M people have the virus. We are now up to 850 cases after two weeks. She is running the WHO playbook. She has made subtle digs at the federal government and the administration for her lack of competence. I could go on and on. Her graph today showed we would peak between 6,000 and 8,000 daily cases sometime between 4/5 and 4/15 with the drop off around 5/1. This Gives Dewine cover to close the schools for the rest of the year, which is has been itching to do, and talks about it on a daily basis. It will be interesting how Dewine/Acton react do Trump’s plan. She dismissed it today as not doable.
I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over this just yet jimlawhead. After all, didn’t POTUS help Dewine get elected?
Betcha after POTUS has a heart to heart, Dewine will help Amy see the light; maybe Dr. Birx can guide Amy down the right path for your state….
Just a thought.
Dr. Birx might influence Acton and Trump may influence Dewine. I am not losing any sleep over it. Just observing what has transpired thus far. Polls released yesterday show Dewine with 80% approval for handling of the crisis. Dewine and Acton have not been shy about making the media rounds, especially the day of (3/12) and the day after (3,13) she made her statement on known cases of 100,000. I would take Birx over Acton, and Trump over Dewine every day all day.
Thank you for this information, good to know, although I don’t know how we can get rid of her.
We wont any time soon. Ohio is running a subtle PR campaign to enhance her public image. She has been labeled by local media as a ‘Public Health Rock Star’. A Facebook Fan page has been started last week that is now well over 50,000. She instilled Fear using a soft approach of ‘I will take care of you’. The liberal stay at home moms are eating this up. That said, the rubber hits the road soon when we gotta get back to work…and she want to keep everything closed. time will tell..and it will be quickly.
So who gets to control the data?
Why so little hospitalization data?
Who gets to decided the true cause of death?
Are normal flu deaths getting added into corona deaths
Who benefits from inflated numbers?
One interesting comment from Dr. Brix was that the President was making it mandatory for hospitals and labs to report data to the CDC.
Most of the dearth of data is because it can’t be released unless the patient or their survivors grant permission in writing to release it. That takes some time to do. Deaths are public domain info. CAUSES of deaths, and current health status (including hospitalization) is private, protected information under HIPAA.
Who gets to decide cause of death varies state by state and case-by-case. Scientifically it requires either a QME (Qualified Medical Examiner) or a Forensic Pathologist to determine in a patient with multiple conditions which one actually killed them. Below that in training you have Coroners and the attending physicians. Sometimes it’s easier to rule than others. Also, some health insurance providers won’t pay for QME autopsies, and so some families decline to have them.
Numbers aren’t personal data.
Exactly. I get numbers from Drs. And hospitals all the time and don’t have to wait for them.
HIPPA IS a pita. But, it is often misconstrued as restricting the exchange of health information, much more than it actually does.
It IS a case of over-regulation, or actually over-legislation, complicates medical care, doesn’t really serve the patient well.
Hmm,..LEGISLATION. So, that would be CONgress, thats to blame. AGAIN.
“Who benefits from inflated numbers?”
The GLOBALIST BANKSTERS et al.
Stop asking the right questions bogey
Potus is giving them a heads up . Time to Rock and Roll to get our country back . Our President is the best . #TRUMP2020🇺🇸
This is exactly what I expected to happen.
Whether out of incompetency or sabotage, the US was not prepared for this. South Korea was. South Korea was able to quickly test and isolate their infected citizens. South Korea was quickly able to control their outbreak by identifying and isolating their infected citizens. The result was a peak at 22 days and, as of now, 9,300 total cases and 139 deaths.
South Korea had a scalpel. The US did not. Our infected population grew too big and we used a broadsword. Why that was the case is open to debate, and should be debated later. For the now, the question is how to “reopen” parts of the country where the infections are under control, while keeping those areas from experiencing resurgences.
This letter suggests the administration wants to adopt the South Korean model. Increase rapid testing capacity to identify and isolate the sick before the infection gets too big for scalpel. One caveat to this is that South Korea used a tracking program similar to the “Google Project” the President mentioned, a project that many here, myself included, have concerns about.
This letter also addresses what I consider the biggest failure of the CDC and the Federal government. We have well designed, well studied, well practiced guidelines and protocols for wildfires, missile attacks, hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, blizzards, terrorist attacks, and other disasters. Apparently we have no guidelines or operational plans to coordinate Federal, State, and Municipal authorities for a pandemic response. Such a lack of planning leaves authorities in situations in which they make up things as they go, greatly increasing the risk for bad or politically-based decisions, as well as decisions that might conflict with or undermine efforts in other areas.
Overall these are both very good steps which, if followed through on and maintained, should help us reduce the risk of similar future disasters and associated future nonsense.
Thank you for sharing this. I want to ask how South Korea was able to test so many so fast? Yes I know they are smaller geographically, and in population. Do they manufacture kits in their country and were able to turn up the production or were they stockpiled in case their loony neighbors did something on accident or on purpose.
It’s simple, they did not have career bureaucrats at the CDC handling the testing for them.
I’m pulling from Wikipedia for ease of formatting:
“In its efforts to fight and contain the virus, South Korea has combined testing with contact tracing.
Infected South Koreans are required to go into isolation in government shelters. Their phones and credit card data are used to trace their prior movements and find their contacts. Those who are determined to have been near the infected individual receive phone alerts with information about their prior movements.
According to Chun Byung-Chul, an epidemiologist at Korea University, high-risk patients who have underlying illnesses are prioritized for hospitalization. Patients with moderate symptoms are sent to “repurposed corporate training facilities and spaces provided by public institutions,” where they receive observation and medical support. Patients who recover and test negative twice are released. Close contacts and infected individuals with minimal symptoms who can measure their own temperatures and whose family members are free of any chronic disease are required to self-quarantine for 2 weeks. Local monitoring teams calls the quarantined twice a day to make sure that they stay where they are and to ask about symptoms.”
“Those ordered to self-quarantine are required to download an app that alerts officials if the patient moves outside of the quarantine. Violators are fined up to $2,500”
“As of 25 February, Daegu officials were aggressively warning residents to take precautions, while allowing private businesses such as restaurants to stay open. As a precautionary measure, many restaurants check the temperatures of their customers before accepting them. It is common for “offices, hotels, and other large buildings” to use thermal image cameras in order to identify people with fevers. All Daegu’s public libraries, museums, churches, day-care centers and courts had been closed.”
“The Blue House announced on 28 February the current status of coronavirus tests in Korea, comparing the testing situation in the United States and Japan. The number of inspections was 26 or 120 times higher than in other countries as of 28 Feb. The cumulative number of inspections was about 53,000 by South Korea, while Japan was about 2,000, and in US about 440 cases were examined”
“CNN reported the innovative drive-through testing for COVID-19 in the northern city of Goyang, which was inspired by the drive-through counters at Starbucks. Reuters detailed the new testing facilities in South Korea. Several drive-through coronavirus screening centres were built, including roadside testing facilities. Their purpose is to diagnose patients quickly, while preventing the infection of others in, e.g., a hospital waiting room or a community health center. The entire testing procedure takes several minute.”
Again, I am not advocating for or against these measures. There are concerns, ethical and Constitutional, about some of them which require public debate. That being said, the most important factor appears to have been early mass testing.
It is also important to remember that after the 2003 SARS and the 2015 MERS outbreak several Asian nations revised their healthcare systems to respond better to novel virus pandemics. South Korea did so after MERS.
I imagine South Korea had intelligence/ spies working in China and had early warning of the FUBAR/ BioWar mess spilling out of Wuhan.
They knew two-three weeks early that they had to kick the machinery into gear, and did.
This is what a second- or third-world country would have to do. A first-world country — if we were still one — would have an intelligent, self-aware population with immediate access to, and personal understanding of, immune-support herbal remedies, short-circuiting the need for what passes for “modern medicine”, to wit vaccines as one-size-fits-all hammers (too often with serious, compromising side-effects).
Rule 1: Extraordinary actions REQUIRE extraordinary data/proof.
Rule 2: WASH YOUR HANDS after restroom usage.
Rule 3: See rule 1
As to Rule 2: All well and good, but that won’t apply to every situation in the future. Washing hands is an effective way to reduced transmission risk for most viruses, but not for all. Nor does that risk reduce to zero. Additionally many people, including children, don’t wash their hands. That presents a problem with containing a virus such as Wuhan Flu at its inception, since many carriers are asymptomatic.
As to Rule 1: I agree, but that is not my point. I am not advocating for a specific set of protocols or guidelines. I am, however, lamenting the lack of *any* protocols or guidelines and strongly believe their existence would have largely curbed the convoluted and economically damaging response to Wuhan Flu.
I know that the CDC looked at the WHO test kit, but decided there were too many false results. Why they didn’t use South Korea’s, I don”t know. China isn’t cooperating much. WHO echoes what China says & has already overstated mortality numbers.
So, one would think someone high up in the Federal Government, working with infectious diseases, say,….DR. FAUCI should have been “on the case” years ago, to develop such a plan.
And the f*ck up, who dropped the ball, for YEARS, is the guy we are listening to, NOW?
He and his ‘team’ are also the same ones,who advised PDJT NOT to restrict travel from China.
So, two strikes against them. I would say this is World Series level baseball.
Three strikes, your OUT!
Dear President Trump.
Thank you, for instinctively knowing the outcome of turning the corner, “Would reside with everyday citizens.”
Thank you for believing in us.
Thank you recognizing this early on and made the call to empower us to choose a coarse of action that supported the National effort, without dictate.
Thank you, for your wisdom to see ultimately, “The National Effort, required leadership ownership from the States to have skin in the game.”
Simply, Thank You.
Trump is moving into mop-up mode. He’s already preparing governors that he’s going to override their statewide quarantines. Very soon.
COVID19 is not what we were led to believe. The President will continue to use language to ameliorate any criticisms that he’s not taking this seriously.
But his abrupt exit from the conferences in recent days tells me he’s already decided the “worst” is over.
Yes, it is most encouraging of him….as always (!) MAGA-KAG…KREEGAH! (that’s Tarzan, leaping into action, for any whippersnappers who don’t know)
Every day that has gone by I am more impressed and even more proud of my President . I do not believe there is anyone who can fill his shoes. certainly not in the democrats bench. I hope the republicans do have a list already of candidates to groom in the coming 4 and a 1/2 years.
4 and a 1/2 years?
8 and a 1/2 years!
That’s right. Supreme Court decision states Trump can run in 2024, to make up for the Dems efforts to ruin his first four. Dems were very successful at it.
Think of what our VSG would have done!
Is this really true? Our VSG can be President in 2024, too?
Federal guidelines for every individual county in the the United States.
And, based on data collected from counties, classifying every county in the United States as “High Risk” or Medium Risk” or “Low Risk.”
That is an enormous long, term undertaking which is going to require a new federal data collection organization which, IMO, does not now exist.
Thinking in terms of past catastrophes of this level and, the organizations created which were born from those catastrophes, what comes to mind is the Department of Energy after the oil embargo’s of 1973 and the Department of Homeland Security after 911.
Something like that is going to come out of all this and it will serve to guide the country though future medical emergencies.
Yeah, both of your examples have been roaring successes, haven’t they?
Any intelligent person could determine the ‘safe areas’ by studying state highway maps.
Pay attention communist Kate. Stay tuned for recall in Oregon.
This is a timely tale in the age of spending Trillions. Please listen and think.Maybe we are all guilty.
CLASSIC! The State Treasury is not yours to give.
Courtesy of Sam Brickell:
“Mr. Speaker—I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money” …………
“……… We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.”
~Davy Crockett, House of Representatives; Not Yours To Give speech
i like it.the low risk counties go on business as usual,the high risk counties like ny city high risk and shelter in place.you can bet the big cities will want to get back to normal.like out here i iowa we have 99 counties,right now we have maybe 40 counties that have positive cases most of those are 1 or 2 cases.i see no reason to shut us down.the more people working the less unemployment gets paid out.
I love this President – and I praise God in heaven for giving him to us at this critical time in our history.
May we endeavor to live lives deserving of such a blessing.
If it wasn’t for President Trump it would be total insanity.
One question: Can a mayor override the governor and continue the shelter in place policy? We have a republican governor and a leftist mayor who will shutdown Columbia, SC on Sunday. Same situation I guess in Florida. The blue plague mayors will do all they can to scare people.
I think a governor “trumps” a mayor. Cuomo told De Blasio he couldn’t shut down the City–it had to come from the governor. I also guess it’s in the state statutes how the two interact.
In the Republic of Boulder, our city council think of themselves as gods with full authority to bend down & annoint us with their wisdom occasionally.
“Baghdad by the Flatirons”, as it was called in the 1960s, when I went to CU Boulder.
Bull nuke, same situation in the city of charleston.
I noticed San Francisco’s Mayor Breed is on another tear against our President. Really, she is a disgrace to the Democratic Party. She was unable to get her brother out of prison. She was unable to coverup the sordid death of Public Defender Adachi, she was unable to put the fix in and stop the FBI arrest of a high ranking city employee for corruption. I mean these are elementary tasks for a San Francisco mayor, and she failed.
I/m sorry, but the President’s letter is nothing more than political BS. I realize that Trump has been mousetrapped by the MSM and the libs and is trying to buy enough time to pry the bar off his neck before the economy is so damaged that it will not be reversible for the next 12-18 months, if ever. What he is doing now may get him reelected, but it will not help many times the number, who may succumb to the effects of the virus, to survive the fall of the US economy.
One more time, 2019-2020 flu season, 20,000+ deaths in the US. No shutdown. 2018-2019 flu season, 60,000+ deaths in the US. No shut down. SARS, MERS, Avian Flu, Swine flu, Zika, West Nile virus, etc. No shutdown. The US panic is nothing more than political kabuki. In the US, it is all designed to Get Trump. The Establishment will do anything to get Trump out of office. And, they will gladly burn down the house [the USA] and leave the peons out in the street, to achieve that goal.
Seriously Mac? I didn’t see it as political bullshit; he was laying the groundwork to the governors and their staff members, that there will be a step-by-step process using science, data, and common sense to get this country back to work and open for business AND more importantly, should any of this type of emergent situation (real or contrived) ever happen again, well, we now have the Trump Policy in place.
So, what’s your gripe again, Mac?
My gripe is the same as it has always been; THERE IS NOT NOW, NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN, A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY FROM COVID-19. What happened with the COVID virus us unprecedented in modern history. The economies of virtually every industrialized nation in the world has been shut down for a disease which is not proving to be significantly worse than many other diseases which we have today. Over half a million people have died from influenza, in the Northern Hemisphere this year, and no one batted an eye. And this happens year in and year out. So, why the change to such Draconian measures for COVID? Simple unreasoning fear? Or something else?
We should never have enacted the draconian measures which have been implemented. I’m sorry, but incarcerating healthy people in their homes is simply unconstitutional. Closing businesses on a whim, is also unconstitutional. And implementing arbitrary measures, for show, which require a 2 TRILLION dollar band-aid to provide some minor relief is insane.
The reaction to this virus is all a scam.
Dutchman and AMK both explained the reasoning behind the stay-at-home policy the best IMO. (emphasis added by P)
From Dutchman’s post on 03/25/2020:
“With influenza, within 24 hrs of contracting the disease and therefore becoming a carrier, you are ‘self-quarantined’ simply because the symptoms send you to bed. Therefore, you can only infect, typically, so many people. Therefore, the # of vulnerable people who contract the disease and because of chronic health issues require hospitalization and/or die, enter hospitals gradually over the course of the flu season. Put another way, the “curve” is naturally and inherently “flattened.”
While SOME hospitals during flu season have been known to TEMPORARILY stop taking patients, such patients are diverted to other hospitals while the TEMPORARILY inundated hospital deals with patient overload….the unique Covid virus enables infected and therefore contagious people to have no symptoms (therefore no natural ‘self-quarantine’ DUE to symptoms), they can infect many more individuals.
The downstream effect of this is that: the ‘vulnerable population’ are far more likely to become exposed and infected IN A MUCH SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. The result is that suddenly hospitals are overwhelmed with large #’s of critically ill patients in a relatively (in comparison to influenza) short period of time. And since ALL the hospitals in an area or even in a whole country or region are in the same boat, diverting patients isn’t possible…..”
And AMK’s response on 03/25/2020:
It’s NOT that we can’t treat the Chinese virus…it’s that WE CAN’T TREAT EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME for the virus!
12 to 18 months if ever? I’ll take that bet. By summer we will be rolling again. Only been a couple weeks and will be total of 4 weeks
In a new age where most companies kept doing business…I’ve been busy working from home. Others laid off or work freezes will get back by 13th to 20th range. Well be fine..
By September and October unemployment numbers will be going down still…landslide ..Trump 2020
We are attempting a very radical thing – it has never been done before – to try to modify the spread-pattern of a contagion that we still apparently do not fully understand. We of course cannot continue doing it for much longer, and we don’t yet know if it will actually work. But the President accepted the advice of his advisors and chose to take this action, and he remains every day completely involved in it, giving actual press conferences daily along with the usual “tweets.”
And yes, even though it was a consensus decision, he is the President, and therefore he will be obliged to say what “Ike” never had to say: “If any blame is attached to this decision, it is mine alone.” Because that’s what it means to be the President.
This man who isn’t drawing his own paycheck isn’t playing this for politics, while everyone around him is.
What people like you fail to understand is that the vast majority of the US workforce works in service oriented industries which require face to face contacts with customers. Retail, restaurant and entertainment industries have been gutted. These industries have a lot of small businesses which operate on a small profit margin which employ people with limited savings. They can not handle a shutdown of more than a couple of weeks. many of them will not reopen. Then we have their customer base. Most rely upon a customer base with disposable income. After tapping into savings or excepting public handouts, this customer base will be greatly reduced. This will also adversely effect domestic and international sales, likely for quite awhile. This results in a contraction of services, sales and, inevitably, manufacturing and other production. This is a recession, if not a depression. How long will it last? Who knows. But, as the recovery is almost always at least 3-4 times as long as the causative factor, this will likely take close to a year, at least, to produce a significant reversal.
Well, Mac, what do you suggest the President should do? I’m pretty sure he knows what you stated, and probably a lot more.
What do you think he should do right now, and… who do you think would assist him?
It is too late to do what should have been done in the beginning, treat it like the flu or other communicable disease and deal with it. Now, the President is mousetrapped. He reasonably believed in the advice of his government medical professionals, And, many of them turned out to be his enemies. So, he is in salvage mold. This is fine, but it does not make him a knight in shining armor. The damage to the economy has already been done. The economy is closely akin to a living organism. it can be injured. And, when it is, it takes a while for it to recover. In a human being, a cut takes a second to accomplish. It takes days, weeks or months for it to heal. And, if extensive enough, it damages the person for life. Is this Trump’s fault? No. But, he allowed it to get out of hand by following advise from people who he should have been very suspicious of.
The borders are happily closed and even Rhode Island has checkpoints to keep New Yorkers out.
I kinda like the idea of closing borders to certain state residents. A novel way for the red states to secede from the union. Quarantine them until they can be cured of their commie ideaology.
I expect that PDJT will allow these radicals to “out themselves,” as they are right now doing, and then he will with a smile and a very simple statement shut them all down.
Governors can’t take away medical licenses, can’t deny medical treatments, and can’t close the borders of their State to the free passage of citizens from any other State. But they are attempting all of these things to “Get Trump.”
After a suitable amount of time, The Champion walks into the ring, smiles, delivers one knockout punch, and waves as he walks away. Once again, his enemies did this to themselves.
BEAUTIFUL! Perhaps Constitutionalists can also not let this crisis go to waste.
Exactly! It bears repeating. “One more time, 2019-2020 flu season, 20,000+ deaths in the US. No shutdown. 2018-2019 flu season, 60,000+ deaths in the US. No shut down. SARS, MERS, Avian Flu, Swine flu, Zika, West Nile virus, etc. No shutdown. The US panic is nothing more than political kabuki. In the US, it is all designed to Get Trump. The Establishment will do anything to get Trump out of office. And, they will gladly burn down the house [the USA] and leave the peons out in the street, to achieve that goal.”
I love this letter ✅
We need Trump as a “Smokey the Bear” type with strategies and public information campaign just like preventing and putting out forest fires. Think about that analogy. It works. Take any situation with forest fires from prepositioning equipment, to evacuating people, to firebreaks, to every citizen stamping out all the little sparks! Even fire towers watching for smoke. But no, the liberals prefer to sit on their hands and wait until the conflagration has gotten out of control.
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