883 Pages of Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act Released…

Yikes, the text of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) has been released (full pdf below).  The Senate took H.R.748 stripped it out, and replaced the text with this bill.   The full 50 page senate record of the activity is available here.

Digging in now.  However, at first blush the size of the spending seems to be a considerable state budget deficit bailout [similar to how Obamacare removed the healthcare pension liabilities from unions].  Here’s the BILL:

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Share your thoughts in the comment section….

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420 Responses to 883 Pages of Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act Released…

  1. luke says:

    Thank God they were able to get this accomplished. Yeah I know it’s got a lot of crap that make conservatives unhappy. I heard Trump go over it today and it made sense (most of it). The alternatives was something nobody would want including people on the left. A chain reaction of belly up businesses and millions of lost jobs. Once these businesses break they’re hell to restart. The man gets it. This buys us time anyway and we’re going to need it. Too many sectors to list are going to be without customers for the foreseeable future. In our capitalist system these sectors work together to benefit one another. It’s beautiful when it works and very efficient. The broken ones will undoubtedly be a drag on the one’s that are still fine. Most likely everyone is ultimately going to be exposed to this disease at some point. It’s just to hard to quarantine it. Best we take it slow or the death toll mounts much higher rate. I really am not sure how deadly it is but it’s nothing to fool with until that becomes crystal clear. I’m not scared to get it but I want to have the option to get medical if I do.

    Liked by 21 people

    • Richie says:

      You probably already got it. Same goes for H1N1. The other pandemic you never heard about.

      Liked by 5 people

    • albertus magnus says:

      Thank you, Luke! Good to have voices of reason, common sense and in support of PDJT speak out when PDJT needs them.

      Liked by 4 people

    • cbjoasurf says:

      I call it “PORKULUS” and I pray that President Trump uses his pen and his phone to fix it. XXXX out ALL the items that do not provide relief to small business and workers and then use the phone to call PIGLOSI & the TURTLE to let them know he “LINE ITEM VETOED” it and signed what really needs to be done.

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      • botchedcasuality says:

        The line item veto was taken away from Trump, as were recess appointments. Thank the blood sucking RINOS.

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        • Dutchman says:

          It was the courts that killed the line Item veto, as being UnConstitutional, and they did it WAY befote DJT thought seriously about announcing.

          However, a # of Constitutional scholars looked at the court decision, and have a concensus opinion that a minor change to how the legislation is written COULD make legislation to give the POTUS line item veto Constitutional.

          However, the odds of Congress WILLINGLY ceding power to the executive by writing such legislation, are slim and none.

          Short of that, we will continue to have the situation spotlighted with this ‘relief’ legislation, that actually happens with virtually EVERY piece of legislation.

          CONgress is the problem. WE, the electorate, have taken our eye off the ball. Looking back many years, at TURNOUT tells the story;

          Turnout every four years, when POTUS is on the ballot, is highest. Turnout in midterm elections, significantly less.

          And, PRIMARY turn out, for midterm elections, only 25% of general lelection turn out.

          We focus WAY too much attention on the PRESIDENTIAL election, and not near enough on CONgress. And CONgress has benefitted from our lack of scrutiny.

          CONgress has the “Power of the Purse”; they have no compelling reason to cede that power to the Executive, by passing Legislation that would give the Executive Line Item Veto.

          POWER is having a commesurate level of Authority and Responsibility. Human nature is to hoarde authority, while eschewing responsibility. This aspect of human nature is reflected in hierarchies, as much as with individuals.

          And is certainly reflected in the actions of Congress; they LIKE to give the Executive the RESPONSIBILITY, while they hoard the Authority.

          The Congress, as currently constituted is highly unlikely to willingly concede authority of the “Power of the Purse” to this President, or ANY President by writing line item veto legislation that would pass Constitutional muster.

          It would destroy their cash cow, of taking legal bribes in exchange for writing legislation that invariably benefits those who pay, at the expence of those who don’t.

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          • MustangBlues says:

            ”Dutchman says:
            March 26, 2020 at 11:15 am”

            Thank you for the excellent information in your post. AND most of all, thank you for

            Following the posting spacing guidelines for readability.

            Your post was one of the few that is easily read, by even the oldest eyes, as well as being highly informative. A model of posting for interested readers. Thank you x1000.

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            • Dutchman says:

              Being on a stupid “smart phone”, I really appreciate the spacing guidelines, and my old eyes simply can’t follow a long post, on the little screen, without spacing.

              I have a big problem with my keyboard. Somehow it seems like I am constantly, inadvertently hitting the comma key, or the ‘speak’ key.

              I NEVER used the speak option, and wish I could deactivate it.

              As for the commas, I spend half my time on my comments, deleting the darn commas!

              Somehow it helps a little if I tilt the phone, but it still seems like I hit that darn button an awful lot!

              Loo,ks,like,this, alot,!
              Anyway, thanks for the kudos!

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    • nats1mom says:

      Agree wholeheartedly with you Luke.

      Liked by 1 person

    • DM says:

      CARE ignores a fundamental health care tenet: Address the cause, not the symptoms. James & Jane Mainstreet must demand cancellation of the school closures, non essential business closures, stay home orders … devastating their jobs and thereby the economy. Mr. & Mrs. Mainstreet must also demand isolation of the symptomatic, those testing + for kung flu and the most vulnerable to dying after becoming ill from covid 19. These are common sense measures. The regular daily routine should resume because the young and healthy have LESS chance of dying from kung flu than of winning a $100 million lottery. Covid 19 related deaths amongst those younger than age 60 are only 1.7 per million in WA state, 0.6 in S. Korea and 0.4 in Italy. An educated guess is these rates are a fraction of the additional murders, suicides, anxiety related deaths … attributable to foolish press and official foolishness. Isolating the vulnerable is more effective than ordering everyone to stay home, and it involves less than 10% or so of the US population.

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      • Dutchman says:

        As I have detailed in previous comments, IMHO the ‘threat’of Covid-19 is NOT to the individual, its to hospitals and the healthcare system.

        Because of the unique nature of the virus, it has the potential to flood hospitals with #’s of critically ill patients, far in excess of what the healthcare system can handle.

        During flu season, hospital admissions rise, lets say 10 patients/day, for 3 months. Hospitals ramp up to deal with the increase.

        But they can’t handle an increase of 100-500/ day, over the coarse of a month; they become overwhelmed, as happened in Wuhan and Italy.

        The shut in is an attempt to protect the healthcare system, NOT (really) individuals.

        We are now seeing the second threat from the virus; the economic threat.

        No doubt Italy will experience a serious economic hit, as a result of their hospitals/healthcare system becoming overwhelmed, and them belatedly imposing stay at home orders.

        So, the spread of the virus, inherently poses this second, economic threat.
        The question is, even if pre-emptive shut down IS succesful in enabling the U.S. to avoid the devastation to the Hospitals/healthcare system, can we avoid the second threat, to our ECONOMIC system.

        And of coarse, thats where this “Care” legislation comes in

        The threat is a collapse like 2008, only in reverse; it STARTS on Main Street, and then moves up to Wall street, instead of the reverse (2008).

        10’s of millions of pay check to paycheck workers sidelined by shut in, renig on paying rent, car payments, etc.

        All those failures to pay, “trickle up”, eventually as landlords can’t make mortgage payments, auto dealers can’t pay for cars purchased etc.

        Eventually it hits the derivatives market, where all debt ultimately ends up. And, no doubt with the economy booming at unheard of levels as recently as 4-6 weeks ago, the To Big to Not Bail Out Banks, grown even bigger since,2008, are no doubt in derivatives up to their eyeballs.

        So, the shut in was to avoid the first threat of the virus; a shutdown of the heathcare system, with resulting economic contraction.

        The ‘rescue’ CARE legislation is to address the SECOND threat of the virus, an “economic meltdown” that STARTS on Mainstreet, and eventually hits Wall Street, as well. And yes, some would say its allready “hit” Wall street.

        However, those are primarily ‘paper’ losses at this point. If America gets back to work soon, and overwhelming of the healthcare system can be avoided, the pent up demand, combined with the surge of $ being pumped into the economy, we could see a rapid climb back to pre-virus levels, within 2-4 or 3-6 months.

        As I see it, thats the plan, any way.

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  2. Grant says:

    Crap!

    Liked by 11 people

    • Niagara Frontier says:

      Can’t POTUS refuse to implement provisions of a bill he believes to be unconstitutional? Seems like this would be an easy one to challenge if it makes it in to the final bill.

      Liked by 3 people

    • ParteaGirl says:

      That was before this:

      Liked by 23 people

    • Johnny Boost says:

      I searched the current document for instances of the word “absentee” and nothing came up. It’s been removed.

      Liked by 5 people

    • MAGADJT says:

      Read before you sound the alarm and freak out. It is unhelpful. Laura was re-tweeting something posted at 2:19 today. The election stuff isn’t in the current bill.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Grant says:

        You sure? Link please.

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      • cbjoasurf says:

        Yeah but it’s still full of PORK that’s why I call it “PORKULUS”. TBH,I could give a rats ass about the Kennedy Center, the Museums. and the arts in the context of what this bill is to do for Americans. Also, fiscal irresponsibility on behalf of the “BLUE” states is on those states and a bailout doesn’t belong in this BILL.

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        • madeline says:

          How many of us regular Amenrican get to go to the Kennedy Center? It is for the elite—if they need the money there are plenty of donor patrons that can easily pony up a million each. Start with Bloomberg.

          Liked by 3 people

      • Bruce Fauth says:

        It’s not there but the thing hasn’t been passed yet. And until it’s on Trump’s desk, anything can be added back. I don’t ever underestimate the stupidity of people, especially one like Piglosi. SO, is she stupid enough to kill this? I don’t think so. YMMV

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  3. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    See my post just above, “But Vote, the statute at 26 USC 7701(a)26 says ‘includes’?

    Here’s my response 7701(c)
    (c) Includes and including
    The terms “includes” and “including” when used in a definition contained in this title shall not be deemed to exclude other things otherwise within the meaning of the term defined.

    Apples, oranges, etc are in the same general class, but cucumbers are not.
    noscitur a sociis noun
    Legal Definition of noscitur a sociis
    : a doctrine or rule of construction: the meaning of an unclear or ambiguous word (as in a statute or contract) should be determined by considering the words with which it is associated in the context

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  4. disgusted citizen says:

    Deep state flexes its muscles and shows yet again that we the people are still their pawns and slaves… long live the king, the king is dead.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Tiffthis says:

    So trump builds up the economy with the middle class and congress pulls the rug from under us and takes all the money we earned?

    Liked by 2 people

    • Eric says:

      Really bad take.

      Liked by 4 people

      • Kenji says:

        Only time will tell if it’s a bad take or not. Those of you who believe Trump is an inerrant Savior of mankind, need to keep your heads. There isn’t a more staunch Trump supporter than me … but he is capable of mistakes and blind spots. This still looks like porkulous disguised as a “relief” bill.

        Fact is this is the kind of spending that’s RUINING our country. And the record revenues we were all sending to the Federal Govt … to paper over that massive deficit just came to a screeching halt. But guess what didn’t? The ballooning interest payment on the exploding debt. That keeps rising higher than a Johns Hopkins Coronavirus curve … and we aren’t squashing the peak … we’re extending it.

        Sorry Boomers … your future SS payments just took a haircut. And since all those nice millennials don’t believe they’ll ever see a dime of SS … d’ya really think the next wave of nice young politicians are gonna let you have yours? Hint: No.

        Liked by 3 people

        • BobC says:

          “There isn’t a more staunch Trump supporter than me … but…..”

          Whenever I read those words and similar caveats I quit reading the rest of the comment. You’re either on the train or lying on the track, but don’t try to fudge it.

          Liked by 6 people

        • Marc says:

          POTUS can know it’s a porkulus and still sign it anyway because it gets te job done for the people in spite of the other BS in it. You should recognize by now how Donald Trump operates in the space between idealism and practicality to get the best outcome while also losing as little ground as possible.

          What other politically viable option does he have? Vetoing this bill means he will lose the election in November. It would be the biggest political mistake of at least a half century. He can’t line item veto so he must sign it. Trump is in the swamp and still has to play by their dirty rules.

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          • guidvce4 says:

            The solution is to vote out every leftie/dim/rino/commie come Nov. Then pass a measure which allows line item veto power to the POTUS. Given that simple step the amount of BS riding on the coattails of sensible legislation will decrease.
            Of course, the left will scream their heads that its not fair, blah, blah, etc. Let ’em scream.
            Build more mental health facilities for the nutjobs on the left. Gonna need ’em after Nov. anyway.

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          • Perot Conservative says:

            He kinda set the table as he never vetoes anything.

            I understand his logic, previously, was any money flowing into the economy was good… but it never stops… and he had to then fight a war to get funding for the Wall. He should have gotten money for the Wall his first 6 months. I know, I know. Eddie Minster Ryan. Odds are the Wall will be expanded but not completed in 8 years. Just enough to win the election.

            There is always a reason to not veto. Coronavirus Bill #1 was over 50% pork – mainly for the Deep State Department. For what, exactly? What did SOS or his minions or CIA want?

            Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. He never vetoes, they know he won’t veto, so they go hog wild.

            Pelosi is already planning three more bills? Ruin real jobs, so they can create more welfare?

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        • Parker Longbaugh says:

          It is President Trump fault and only his fault that Americans elected idiots to both the Senate and House of Representatives.

          This bill passed the Senate 96-0.

          Call your Senator and explain how disappointed you are with President Trumps vote on this bill

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    • cbjoasurf says:

      EXACTLY what has happened!

      Liked by 1 person

  6. margarite1 says:

    Page 830 -ballot harvesting. So the GOP doesn’t mind going extinct?

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  7. Do stop thinking about tomorrow says:

    I to would have liked a tax holiday. Hard to see that as an option as people have to be employed for that to work. Realistically when this is over alot of the small businesses will not reopen as well as medium size businesses.

    The one saving grace is President Trump will be able to use this time to force more manufacturing.

    When large companies can’t pay there rent after only a few weeks it is an indicator that our economy is hurting.

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    • WSB says:

      I would have liked that, too. Not to have to file and just keep what our government always takes away…just for this year. The amount of work just to itemize is still astronomical.

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  8. FPCHmom says:

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  9. hoosiertruthfan says:

    Maybe we could challenge the Line Item Veto Act in the SC again? This sure makes we wish we could.

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  10. margarite1 says:

    Regarding all the pork that has zero to do with the virus ramifications – we are in a state of taxation without representation. I’m ready to give up.

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  11. RJ says:

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    • Debra says:

      I DO NOT CONSENT TO THIS!

      VETO. VETO. VETO. VETO.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Eric says:

        Debra, so you are saying you support the Democrats messing with the election?

        Liked by 4 people

        • Debra says:

          No. I am saying that whole bill needs to be vetoed. In fact I said it four times.

          Liked by 3 people

          • Eric says:

            President Trump had this economy humming.

            The economic shutdown had us looking at massive negative GDP rates and unemployment.

            The President who had this economy humming said we needed this bill and sent his Treasury Secretary to negotiate for him personally.

            I’ll take the President’s opinion over your’s.

            Liked by 9 people

            • Debra says:

              If he does sign it, he will not lose my support. I do, however, retain my right to express my opinion.

              Liked by 6 people

              • Judith says:

                I don’t like it either Debra, but apparently this is life in the big city. I mean swamp. We voted in that swamp and President Trump must work with what he has.

                Liked by 6 people

              • Kildare57 says:

                Amen
                I was told by POTUS to grin & bear it for 15 days…that has now become a month
                ( easter time frame )…..maybe. Our business will be broke and closed.
                We flattened the curve by flattening main street. And now we are to believe this
                800+ page bill is anything about recovery?

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              • clulessgrandpa says:

                Debra, The Senate has voted unanimously for it. If Trump vetoes, they have the votes to override it. Trump looks stupid for delaying the bill.

                Liked by 3 people

                • dilonsfo says:

                  Excellent point. Good job.

                  Liked by 1 person

                • Debra says:

                  Clueless, ‘they’ already have ‘tried’ to make him look stupid.

                  He’ll own the downside.

                  I really am sorry for people that are on the precipice of failure. What good did it do for Judas for selling out . . .?

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        • Richie says:

          $350M for Migration and Refugee Assistance could buy a lot more voter fraud.

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          • buzzybee says:

            Voter Fraud is not for sale right now.

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          • Debra says:

            What I think it buys are APPEALS on taxpayer dime of people who have been removed from our country to come back and re-adjudicate their asylum cases. (Sup Ct today).

            Gee. Wouldn’t all of us who have had deleterious court decisions made against us like to be paid for having that happen?

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            • Judith says:

              Unions negotiate these Lawfare packages too Debra. Built right into their CBA’s. I guess Lawfare is the latest craze, or one of the final nails in our coffin most likely. #NewWorldOrder

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      • JG3 says:

        Dr. Segal, on FOX this evening (sorry don’t remember which show) said that the CoVid 19 is a stable virus, which mean a vaccine will work in controlling it. Also, that it is temperature sensitive. And, that they are expecting it to slow thru the summer, then show-up again this fall. Maybe this is funding the continuing work on a vaccine and preventing/preparing for another round this fall? Hope so.

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        • Debra says:

          I believe PDJT should veto this bill tomorrow and tell us all to return to our normal routines on Monday, March 30th, being mindful of best practices in individual hygiene.

          Liked by 5 people

          • Judith says:

            In a perfect world, yes.

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          • dilonsfo says:

            He can’t veto the bill until after the house votes on it on Friday…if it passes the house as stands. If the house ads to it then it has to go back the senate for their vote.

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            • Debra says:

              That’s even better. Where’s the URGENCY Nancy? Oh, and did the decrepit princess FOLLOW the guidelines of the President when they first were announced like the rest of us, or did she promenade around wherever she wanted?

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        • mike says:

          These media and govt asses have done everything they could to delay and freeze intelligent actions for prophylaxis and treatment with cheap, readily available materials.

          Vitamin D and IV vit C in meaning amounts? pffffft from the paid peanut gallery
          HCQ+AZM+Zn ? Direct attacks from pharma dependent media and pharma whores.

          I would like to believe that victims’ family will hold some these turkeys responsible.

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  12. spren says:

    Why are these enormously sized bills allowed? We’ve gotten to the point where everything this ridiculous government does, budget or otherwise, is some gargantuan piece of excrement.

    My son and I were discussing this and he wondered “why aren’t all of these proposals required to be considered and voted upon individually? Why aren’t the names of those who proposed them displayed with each proposal? (Wouldn’t this add accountability as well as the ability to discern who are the ones pulling the strings behind them?) Who actually writes or crafts these bills as it certainly isn’t the congress members who don’t know anything until they read them, if they actually do?

    Who would write a draft proposal that people who are unemployed will receive more money than if they were working? Wouldn’t it be nice to see the names of the people who proposed idiocy such as this? Concurrently, who wrote that mid-sized businesses accepting government help will be forbidden from any attempts by their workforce to unionize?

    I recognize that this game allows supposed compromise, where I hold my nose for what you want, and you hold your nose for what I want. But this is the terrible process that has continued to plunge us into ever more debt, year after year.

    Itemize these proposals and let them stand on their respective merits. Hold the people proposing them accountable for what they ask for. For goodness sake, this proposal is 800+ pages long which is less than Pelosi’s 1400 page monstrosity. How long can we let this charade continue?

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    • Debra says:

      Someone do a poll asking, ‘Do you consent to this?’ and let’s see this democracy these people always claim we have (incorrectly, I might add) in action.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Fools Gold says:

        Answers:

        Each bill would be twice as much if done individually and passed by group think.

        They don’t list lobbyist/lawyer names of who wrote the actual text of any given bill.

        The Mob from the 40’s & 50’s and lobbyist are one of the same. Think arkancide as an example.

        Agreed

        Until our lord returns and end of days.

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    • nimrodman says:

      “why aren’t all of these proposals required to be considered and voted upon individually? … etc …”

      Spren, the answer to your questions is self-evident in the asking:

      “Because they don’t want it that way”

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    • 4gypsybreeze says:

      People are wondering when they will get their next paycheck….and our legislators instead of working on alleviating some of the suffering….why…they decided that working on their shopping wish list and looking at who to give money to– their favorite organizations and pet projects where/are more important.

      Instead of focusing on what is happening….looks like they were busy making a shopping wish list and working on that to put in this spending bill! Disgusting.

      Guess this REALLY shines a light on their ACTUAL priorities…which isn’t the American people who are laid off right now, or the businesses that will probably wind up closing.

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    • Jan says:

      Agree with what you state, but Sundance pointed out earlier that there was no way the Dimms came up with their 1400 page proposal just over the weekend. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce writes up most legislation. Or Nancy’s little law firm now in the House (Lawfare lawyers) wrote this up.

      It’s no coincidence that the Dimms were “negotiating in good faith” with Republicans until Nancy came back to town & rushed to the Capital in a helicopter, and then negotiations stopped.

      Sure would like to see all Dimms come down this bug, but we can’t get that much KARMA at one time.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Look…….It is as stated…..and very simple….

        “Never let a crisis go to waste”

        These liberal Bills are already created just waiting for the next crisis.

        They know that these types of requests would “Never” pass in a regular session…so they just save the ones they wrote previously and pull them out of storage when the next crisis hits……Hurricanes….Puerto Rico …..now the virus..

        An example would be “Gun Control”. If they saw an opening that bill would be input in 10 minutes

        All Pelosi had to do was call one of her gofers and tell them to pull this bill.

        Change the dates ….the title….voila……never even missed Happy Hour

        And a final thought…….
        I have been posting here for quite a while.
        Sundance asked us for input on the bill. This helps him decipher it

        But most of you are just bitchin and moaning about stuff that isn’t even in the bill.
        Read the bill…Stop spreading rumors and discontent just to “virtue signal”

        Try helping

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    • Judith says:

      CONgress probably had this bill written before the Coronavirus was even invented. Right, Mitch? Somewhere between The Witch Hunt and Shampeachment Hoax, I reckon.

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  13. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    Like I said…
    All governments protect themselves first and foremost, always have and always will!

    I you don’t understand law and their legal definitions, then you’ll always get screwed!

    Like Jesus said, he can give you a fish to eat for the day but if he teaches you how to fish, that will last a lifetime.

    It’s time to start acting like adults, even you lawyers on here and start standing up for the Rule Of Law! Study the laws folks especially since the internet is free. Study the legal definitions and court opinions.

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  14. L&L says:

    Can this money be recovered from China by making the #1 Trillion China holds in treasuries worthless and increased tariffs?

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    • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

      Ever wonder why we never have term limits?
      Ever wonder why we never have line item vetoes?
      Ever wonder why Presidents have no idea what’s actually in these bills?
      Ever wonder why bills are always monstrositIes?
      Ever wonder why all bills bounce you to different statutes?

      Good luck!

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    • WSB says:

      Yes, do those of us who have paid taxes for decades only to have them laundered through our government to foreign countries to line its pockets… ever get reparatioms?

      Liked by 7 people

    • Fools Gold says:

      I once read ~$6T of our national debt is is owed to other countries including China…whatever it is my thinking is it’s the other way around x3. If we go down the whole world goes down with us and there will be weeping and knashing of teeth and woest to those who give suck…

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  15. Fools Gold says:

    I just had a brain fart which blew my 🤯. Maybe y’all need to think of this in terms of $2T spent to help the world and kill the number one economy simulationly and not spread a common cold or annual FLU following 15 simple steps.

    By the way go hug your kids or grandkids first chance you get!

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  16. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    It turns out they discovered a cure for death, sperm19 and egg18, it’s called life.

    Abortions ring a bell?

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  17. 4gypsybreeze says:

    A defining moment in history for us once again! The Churchill moment comes to mind. Ask the people. Ask the people for support in getting our legislators to do their jobs instead of playing political games.

    Our President asked For a bill to alleviate the suffering of Americans who do not when their next paycheck is coming. Small business owners who are looking at the true possibility of closing their doors. And a lot of medium business owners too.

    Perfect time to gather the people around him.

    Presidential address-televised. Tell the people what it in the bill. Show the shopping wish list that our Politicians think are more–or as– important as their suffering. Tell them what is in the bill…..line by line the shopping wish list. Ask the people if they believe that politicians should have/be spending time inserting their shopping wish list….how are those items going to help THEM right now? Do a Tom Cotton. Ask us—the American people for support in contacting their representatives from their Mayor on up to change the bill to ease their suffering now…and not work on their shopping wish list.

    Perfect time to do a major pull the plug and drain the swamp! And for all those who voted for it so far….expose them. Every darn one of them. I have told many about this…and not one is not peeved. Royally peeved. They have wasted how much time? They are doing what?

    He has the country behind him. He thinks outside the box. Time to drain that swamp….stand for we the people and do what is right. Veto it. Ask that the politicians cancel their recess and -work for the people during this time of struggle and uncertainty for millions. Chance of a lifetime.

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    • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

      Here you all go, it’s time to lite up the emails to your President and tell him what 4gypsybreeze just said, and tell him to VETO this BS!

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

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      • 4gypsybreeze says:

        Thanks Vote ALLIncumbants out…..I have already written twice today! Instead of so many just griping and complaining…..write to him. Use the link and write to him! Encourage others to do the same!
        Thanks again!

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      • RyderLee says:

        4gypsy , Your comment is Absolutely Steller !

        I Would LOVE to See Our President Trump Stand Right Up at his Podium
        And Do Just THAT !
        It Would Be the Cherry on Top , Heaven on Earth , the Last Dark Chocolate
        Little Hershey Bar left in the Package !

        Oh ! Make it Be So !!!
        (awesome thoughts , gypsy , thank you for sharing them 😊)

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        • dilonsfo says:

          Well, you are just a group of maybe 30,000,000 including you small children who feel this way and probably about 320,000,000 and their small children that feel differently. Each has their own reasons but being able to express those thoughts and even write the President is what America is all about. But you better hurry cause time is running out.

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      • Serena says:

        Thank you VoteAllIncumbantsOut. Just sent 4GypsyBreeze’s excellent post to the President. Tweaked a few words but basically left it the the same since Gypsy said it so well. I added my support and prayed God’s blessings on him. I am not a very savvy tech person but if I can do it any of you very smart Treepers can surely do it. Come on all you Treepers and send it,too. We are in the fight for our lives and America as we know it to be and should always be. All of us together can make a difference.Please tell the President how you feel.He needs to hear our love and support for him. God bless.

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      • Snellvillebob says:

        And phone up your Senator and Rep then Oink and Rheee in their answering machine for 30 seconds. Practice first so they can rate them like they do your other phone calls.

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      • cbjoasurf says:

        Been there done that

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    • Serena says:

      4gypsybreeze,I can’t like any posts on here but I sure do love yours. Thank you for saying this. I agree completely. I sent it to the President thanks to VoteAllIncumbantsOut for posting the address.Hope all Treepers will do the same.

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  18. Bolivar says:

    Reports say that this bill will pay many workers at restaurants and bars and small businesses more in unemployment than they received in their jobs. So, this will encourage many to get on unemployment as long as possible and not return to their former jobs. An amendment to correct this and cap payments at 100% of the prior salary was defeated.

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    • J says:

      There are many, many, many reasons to be pissed off by this bill. But this is not one of them.

      I am a concrete flatwork contractor. I employ 20 people. I live and work in Michigan. Winter is the time when I use revolving layoffs because work slows down. I cant pour cement outside when the ground is frozen and that is half of my work. I layoff half my crew two weeks at a time and struggle to find 40 hours for the other half. The next two weeks I bring back the laid off half and those that were working collect for two weeks. A lot of the time they spend doing busy work which is basically me subsidizing them because busy work doesnt make me money.

      March is the time of year we begin to ramp up the workload. I begin calling my guys back. I have the work now but first the building departments closed so I couldnt get inspections. And then the Governor closed all of Michigan and I can no longer get concrete to do the work that didnt require inspections.

      Michigan gives 20 weeks of unemployment at the max rate of 362/week and it is taxable income. Most of my crew brings home over 1000/week. My top 2 or 3 guys bring home nearly 2k/week with overtime. I have now laid off my entire crew. It is possible with planning to take the 638+ dollar hit for the approximately 4 weeks each guy ends up laid off in the winter. It is not possible to do so with no end in sight.

      So unless you are in the belly of the beast please dont be so obtuse as to use one sector of a giant economy to paint the rest of us as lazy or ready to take advantage of a bad situation.

      Believe me, my guys want to go back to work. They are begging for work.

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    • Thankful for Americans Outside of DPRK says:

      Does this account for loss or tips?

      Could that be the line of reasoning?

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  19. wvcoalman says:

    Does this mean we are “shovel ready”…..again?

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  20. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    I rushed this through on the WH contact page but here it is.

    Dear President Trump,

    I voted for you sir and Damn proud of it but for the love of God, please VETO this monstrosity of a bill (Cares Act) that the senate has rushed through. Please read it to the American people and explain to them why you will veto this. We the people are tired of this constant rush to always push bills through that never favor the American people. For many years now, politicians have always promised us the world and only delivered a tiny fraction of those promises, yet still always pretending to represent us. But you sir, you were different and this is why the American people voted for you. You asked us to take a chance and we did! So now I’m asking you to take a chance and trust the American people who put you in office the first time and know that we will be there the second time.

    Your a good man sir, even I know you cannot morally sign this Act.

    Mr. President… We have your back, I promise you!

    Respectfully,

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  21. Troublemaker10 says:

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  22. I wonder what resue bill would be acceptable?

    You have 1/2 the country under MANDATORY stay at home orders. Staying at home no Income fighting for scraps at the store if they can be found. Mortgages, lights, water, car payments, insurance Life home auto rent health, and FOOD cost still coming due. These people or we didn’t ask for this, we didn’t vote for it and we would rather go back to work. Yet governments State and Local stand between us and our paychecks.

    I am here to tell you that a family of 4 that receives 3400 dollars will hurt even with this payment. So give the damn 75 million to pay off Nancy and the Kennedy Center. Help families that are being robbed by Local and State Governments. Because once the doors open up no family can overcome debts being late 2 or 3 or 4 months. They lose houses cars light water phone and their lives.

    So really show me something in the bill so bad it overshadows that.

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    • Risa says:

      I believe Trump agrees with your concerns.
      Another sleepless night.
      I am ready for some gratuitous “hope porn”.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Uh…kind of funny, but… that rhymes with “popcorn” (which is good…especially when gratuitous…hee-hee-hee). Ol’ Pollyanna here (I can’t help what my inner voice puts out there for me to share; it is remarkably wise, anyway…and you set me up!).

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    • wodiej says:

      This reveals an even bigger problem. People have no savings for emergencies such as this.

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      • fixintostand says:

        After eight years of the last president no small wonder. People are still recovering, he put three automobile dealers out of business in our area, and then stimulus money went to people that should have never received it. It seemed like every foreign owned gas store in our area, and that was a lot, got over $500-1.5M and new business that signed up were out of business three months later, maybe just collecting the money and running, specifically remember a health club and restaurant. I assume these same people took the money for seven more years. I hope that doesn’t happen again, but won’t hold my breath with all the dem input. There was a tracking web sit but can no longer find it.

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    • dilonsfo says:

      It is 25 million

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    • Snellvillebob says:

      Kroger was selling single rolls of paper towels for $1.00 each, limit ONE per customer. We go through one roll a day so this would mean I would have to go to Kroger every day to keep supplied. Sam’s was much more reasonable at a bale 15 rolls, one each. BTW I was there this morning and all the meat reefers were full except whole chickens, breasts and thighs. There were plenty of legs and wings though.

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  23. ledygrey says:

    Can someone enlighten me as to why he cannot do a line item veto. Is it because Congress would over rule it?

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  24. bessie2003 says:

    Scrolled through it;

    liked the part, beginning page 217 about requiring setting up accounting for a strategic national stockpile regarding certain types of medical supplies. Years ago, when my husband was on lots of different medicines, we signed up for email updates which listed what drugs or supplies were backlogged or no longer available and was surprised at how many important medicines were always on backlog status, so focusing on this need is good;

    liked, beginning on page 694 where within 30 days of this passing there has to be established a user-friendly, public facing website for people to watch and see how these funds are actually being spent;

    the number of pages spent discussing sun-screen was confusing so figure there’s some Senator, or two, that are in the pockets of the sun-screen lobby – or being more sensitive to the sun, is it possible a long-term dangerous effect of this virus?

    This is a lot of money, it’s also sets the pattern going forward for future national emergencies to ensure the individual citizens, as well as the governing agencies will have the framework to fall back on so in that respect, am glad it’s this President and this Sect. of Treasury that oversaw putting this together even if having to add deals to get the opposite party to go along had to be done, such as the performing arts big dollars.

    Given that the whole package is wrapped in the onus of emergency, one-time national need framework, it does (okay laughing at this) – end (because no program in DC ever really ends).

    Didn’t see any of the outrageous things Madame Pelosi was pushing, though am sure there’s some in there, but speed reading over 800 pages am sure there’s all kinds of sand traps in it.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      Also, and it’s just a hunch, but while reading this was getting the impression that a VSG-PDJT is going to see that China repays us for this huge expenditure, is why my opinion is that yes, it’s an enormous expense, but that just shows the enormity of our nation’s economy and am confident, that a man who takes it as a given to hit back at those who hit you 10 times harder is going to take that same viewpoint toward a nation that hid the depth of damage this virus contained and lied to the world, then tried to put the blame on us. Making sure he gets a 2nd term will be huge in seeing that part come about. Just a hunch.

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  25. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • bessie2003 says:

      Seems like a small price to pay to get some Democrat votes.

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      • Snellvillebob says:

        Nudge, nudge, nudge. Eventually, they will push us off the cliff.
        My question is why are the Conservatives doing the same with them? They can make up lists from all the Socialist pork they have been inserting for years.

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        • bessie2003 says:

          Sundance really called it right – this is part and parcel of the Big Ugly. It’s very ugly but half the country voted for the Dem type of pork the other half for the Rep. type pork – why would we expect anything different from the Uniparty? President Donald J. Trump stands in the middle of this on our behalf, this is the first break our nation of individualists have had in ages. I trust his ability to figure out when to hold ’em, when to fold, and when to walk away – and right now if he says we need this, we need it.

          Maybe this isn’t the end but the end of the beginning of change and who we put into office local, State, Federal is going to show what we collectively have decided. Personally hoping the Tea Party energy is the victor.

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    • CharterOakie says:

      At what point in their “therapy” can “transgenders” take advantage of that provision?

      Hopefully the good senators thought about it carefully.

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    • cbjoasurf says:

      Sounds “SEXIST” to me!

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  26. CM-TX says:

    Yeah, the attempt to plead their case was NOT well received…

    | The Kennedy Center, which employs nearly 3,000, releases a statement on its $25 million [down from $35m] in stimulus relief |

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/03/25/the-kennedy-center-which-employs-nearly-3000-releases-a-statement-on-its-25-million-in-stimulus-relief/

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  27. glissmeister says:

    Update on the Machine Democrat Governor of Nevada, Steve Sisolak, and his bizarre intervention to regulate and restrict physician access to chloroquine:

    “There is absolutely no reason a politician should be playing doctor,” says health care policy expert Naomi Lopez of the Goldwater Institute; “The fact that the CDC and the FDA is facilitating this treatment and it is outlawed in one state, is absolutely absurd.”

    https://www.ktnv.com/news/healthcare-policy-expert-weighs-in-on-gov-steve-sisolaks-order

    These people are sick.

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  28. kurt72 says:

    For those who want to veto this bill.
    There are millions of families across our nation who have lost their jobs and have no income or savings to draw from. They will run out of food next week. Or this week. They might get sick. They’ve never had to ask for assistance of any kind. They’re panicked due to the lying media. They’re your neighbors. They’re in your clubs and churches. They need help.
    This gives it to them.
    Businesses need loans to start creating wealth again. Agencies who help people and nonprofits don’t create wealth and thus need grants not loans.
    Our President knows what he’s doing and I support him.
    Do you?

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  29. butch cassidy says:

    To everyone on here saying veto this bill (and not even have a bill) think about this. This country, at best, maybe equally divided, look how close the elections were in so many states. Trump needs the African american vote, the independents, the walk away dems, walk away union and the regular people who don’t like him but see he is doing a good job. He needs the economy to rebound quickly and look how the market has reacted the last 2 days. How do you think all the investors(again,all voters), especially the retired investors feel about that.

    Is this bill perfect, of course not, none are, and Trump said as much yesterday. The fact is there are a lot of hurting Americans who need help at this time (and these people vote), Whether you believe this is a real pandemic or not doesn’t matter at this point at least half the country does, as does most of the world. and states are shutting down, so Trump has no choice but to deal with this accordingly, And that includes a give and take politics/negotiations, whether you like it or not.

    There is a huge voting block that wants this bailout and Trump needs a good % of those to help him win in 2020.There is no doubt in my mind that if he veto’s this bill (which he wont) he can kiss his reelection goodbye and then what do we have. A smart president can’t just play to his base, he has to try to appease everyone. I’m just surprised so many fail to understand this. Like his song at his rallies, you can’t always get what you want, you get what you need. JMHO.

    I

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    • ALLAN CRAIN says:

      Think about your local surroundings and the absurdity of paying $600 per week over and above U/C insurance. Think about the part-time: server, cook, farm worker, school teacher, organist, hair dresser, janitor, real estate agent, non-profit quasi volunteer. This is welfare on steroids.
      Not everyone in this country lives in a big city and the Senate bill reads like everyone lives in NYC, Wash DC, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA or SFO. Who is going to work for $10 an hour after this?

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      • butch cassidy says:

        Think about a democrat being the president in 2020, maybe even having the house and the senate.

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      • Co says:

        I am a ration:proportion kinda gal as an RN. But if 1 person receives $1200 a month that’s $300 a week or 7.50 per hour for 160 hrs. Part time usually is 24 hrs a week or 96 hrs a month @12.5 a hour. I not sure where you are getting the $600 a week pay a person in this? (Married couple $2400 breaks down the same per person)

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        • ALLAN CRAIN says:

          That $600 per week is for anyone unemployed because of COVID 19 no matter what their previous weekly income.

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        • ALLAN CRAIN says:

          That $600 per week is for anyone unemployed because of COVID 19 no matter what their previous weekly income.

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          • bessie2003 says:

            “no matter what their previous weekly income” . . . the way the text reads is these deposits will be based on what the individual, or couple if filing jointly, 2018 federal Tax Return showed as their income; for individuals there is no deposit if they made more than $75,000 at the end of 2018 and couples no more than $150,000 in 2018. So there is some backstop. Is that the right word, backstop?

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        • MILupper says:

          (A) the amount ( unemployment payment) determined under the State law (before the application of this para-graph), PLUS
          (B) an additional amount of $600 (in this section referred to as ‘‘Federal Pandemic Un-
          employment Compensation’’).
          Page 99.

          $600/ 40 hrs/week= $15.00/hour. Much more per hour for part time workers and that does not include whatever unemployment compensation the state pays out.

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          • J says:

            You guys are woefully ignorant of how the States run unemployment.

            First off regular unemployment is mostly funded by business. I pay a tax each quarter to fund unemployment. I find it unlikely I will be given a break on this, though next quarter it should be pretty low as it is based on wages as is the workers comp taxes I pay.

            Second very few, if any, part time workers are eligible for unemployment. To be eligible you must make X dollars for 2 consecutive quarters. The rookies that work 40 hours a week for me at 12 dollars/hr barely qualify. You better not take a week off for family vacation or you could be ineligible.

            Third, the dollar amount of unemployment that you recieve is based on your wages. A 12/hr guy may get 320 twice a month. The guys making 25/hr get a max of 724 twice per month. My guys average 60 hours per week for 10 months of the year. The 25/hr guy has a gross wage around 1750week or 7k per month. Unemployment gives them 1448 per month. And that is for a maximum 20 weeks.

            So adding 600/month, which is far more likely than per week as I still have not seen one citation that it is per week, brings them to 2048/month. Still far below the 7k they get from working, barely a weeks pay in 4. And we would be working now without this shutdown. And 1240 per month for the 12/hr guys is still well below the 3360 they would make.

            You are taking one sector of the economy and extrapolating it over the entirety. My guys arent even worst case. The union tradespeople are losing even more per month. We are the people that build your homes, your cars and every manufactured item in this country. We didnt ask for this any more than anyone else did. Yet you are hating on us.

            Any time you have a job with regular wages your lifestyle is dependant on maintaining those wages. My guys have mortages, truck payments, wives and children. They have college tuition bills, food, electric and gas. Paying these bills is dependant on them making their wages they have recieved for years. And some of you heartless bastards are complaining about one of the only thing in this bill that actually does help people and isnt pork. As disgusting as the tyrants that put thier pork in the bill.

            This argument over unemployment here is ill-informed in the extreme. At best. Intentionally misleading at worst.

            Ive been dealing with unemployment for the 35 years Ive been in business. I know how it works. I know its strengths and weaknesses. This angst is misplaced.

            Notice I am defending my guys not myself. You can come and pay my 30k a month equipment loans. My 3k per month lease on my construction yard and building. My 2500 a month mortgage. My daughters college loans. My wifes car. BTW I dont recieve unemployment.

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      • J says:

        Six hundred a week? I highly doubt this is a per week amount. Michigan pays 362 dollars a week max and thats only to those making 20 dollars an hr and more. The 600 is far more likely to be per month.

        I havent seen this part in the bill yet but before you begin slamming it maybe you should read and cite the parts that concern you rather than doing the dem tyrant thing and using pure emotion, innuendo and untruths. The Treehouse operates on facts not emotion. Statements like this dont do anyone other than the tyrants any good.

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  30. Skip says:

    As usual ya all had comprehension to a political bill. I just have one comment and this has to do with the $$$$$ cost of the Bill. I keep reminding myself that history of an individual sets the tone of How a person Turns out… Question: what did Trump apparently cut his teeth on while in business? For me the answer is Bankruptcy & coming out ahead of the game. I think Trump has a plan of dealing with the corrupt Federal Reserve and this $$$$$ + the Nation Debt will be shoved up the Global Banking Families .A… You fill in… I’m believe he is in the process of filling up the Treasury as we debate the future. As the saying Goes: one can only count of Death and Taxes; maybe shortly it will be just Passing from this Reality…..? IRS is nothing more than a collection arm for the Non-Federal Reserve private corporation…

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  31. 13wasylyna says:

    President Trump should not sign this bill if it includes the following:

    – $25M for the Kennedy Center
    – $350M for Migration and Refugee Assistance
    – $100M for NASA
    – $75M for PBS/NPR
    – $75 for both the National Endowment of Arts & Humanities

    This does not help Americans!

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    • Bigly says:

      Move on. Fight these battles another day.

      At least nothing about same day voting and diversity boards – funding for crap we don’t support, this we can live with the get the deal done – we need to get the house back! Then sweeping cuts later.

      Be rational – not extreme

      IMHO

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    • CharterOakie says:

      Most of it is left wing pork and an outrage, agreed.
      But it adds up to $625M, which is 0.0003125% of the $2T.
      Not even a drop in the bucket, and apparently it’s what Schumer & Co sold their votes for. I’ll take it.

      Our VSG POTUS can definitely work around those fools and is clearly focused on and succeeding at repairing much greater damage to our country than those expenditures amount to. I trust him to prevail.

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      • CharterOakie says:

        Oops, misstated the percentage. $625M is 0.0003125 of $2T, or 0.03125%, i.e. about 3/100th of 1%.

        Still just a drop in the (gargantuan) bucket, though.

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    • dbobway says:

      That is peanuts compared to the usual pork.
      If we don’t get America back to work, all that pork won’t matter.
      My wife’s company, a small restaurant chain, laid off 3,000 employees,
      No severance, no health insurance, no back sick leave or vacation., as of Monday 3/29
      Because of this bill, the employees who had health insurance, are going to retain their Health insurance. They company sent my wife an e-mail last night, about getting back her insurance she’s had for 25 years in the company. She didn’t cry herself to sleep last night.
      Please quit saying the President has to veto this bill. He can’t. He won’t.
      These people want to work, the money offered by the government won’t pay their basic bills, and that doesn’t include food, gas etc. At least a thousand of these laid off cooks, waitresses, are already out of money right now.
      The state unemployment offices are extremely slow normally, if your form is filled out wrong, that will cost you a month. One would say how could you fill out the form wrong?
      Because the form is like every government form,
      It was created to be difficult to do.
      Now the unemployment office, has received an 800% increase in applications.
      Most will be back to work before they get a dime from the government.
      The Democrats don’t care, the people who support them, don’t no stinkin’ forms, they’re already on the government teet.

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  32. I think EVERYONE who is healthy should go to the store to buy something “essential” EVERY DAY. Vote with your presence in public. Do this to support the President in his stated desire to open everything up as quickly as possible. SHOW THEM. And don’t engage with fear-mongers while you’re out, they are wasting their time and yours, and only prolong this insupportable situation by making it seem “reasonable” (it is NOT).

    The worst part of this is that people are letting an Insane Left enter another presidential election as if they were not a traitorous, illegitimate mob and insane anti-American cult (the whole Congress, by performing “business as usual” with these traitors, is aiding and abetting the ongoing treason).

    Get out and vote. Every damn day, as Patton would say.

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  33. Bigly says:

    Trump is going to run on “we are going to make China pay”

    This thing is mostly loans anyway

    Am I wrong?

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    • TradeBait says:

      Agree. Unleash a bioweapon on the world with operatives and unwitting travelers a few months after being taken to the woodshed with tariffs and begging for a trade deal – CCP has dun shiz in their nest as we say around here. I hope it is brutal and results in that regime kissing their arses goodbye.

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  34. destashjan says:

    Can I suggest that Treepers read the bill, or at least read the previous comments!
    Lots of hysteria being thrown out there, debunked, followed by “oh, I shouldn’t have listened to rumors”. If you don’t have a (reliable/trusted) link, don’t post it. ☺️

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  35. Learned Hat says:

    So sick of this stuff. So many packages could have been narrowly focused (and still would have been huge). I need this to settle out and drive one more big market run (whether based in reality or not) and then I can go to fixed income and move to some acreage in the country.

    Trump may allow us to flatten the trajectory of the nation but it is still headed for disaster. Iceberg was obviously hit some time ago.

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  36. railer says:

    I’m cynical, so I have to believe much of that $2T is being spent to fund groups I don’t want to be funded, who’ve been at least partially starved of revenue these past 3 years due to executive action by Trump. He’s partially starved the bureaucrats’ domestic pet groups, NGO’s, foreign aid sinkholes, etc. Plus state governments are often in fiscal trouble, IL and a few others are about to crash, so this could be a vehicle to throw cash at them.

    More a suspicion than anything.

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    • railer says:

      Mnuchin negotiated this thing with Congress, so little chance Trump will veto it. It’s basically being handled same as TARP, rammed through with little thought other than harming Trump and helping the Swamp.

      Pelosi played her part in the Potomac 2-Step, inserting a few outlier monstrosities in the original bill, so the rest of the Uniparty could publicly posture as putting down her abominations and thus be the good guys, while retaining the rest of the buried monstrosities. It’s all so tiresome.

      $2T?

      The Swamp must be using public policy to feed pork to favored groups. It’s what they do. The numbers alone dictate they are.

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  37. Proud American from Texas says:

    Read a tweet that made it very clear how helping folks could have been handled.
    Send everybody a check. People who earn a bunch would simply pay their portion back the next tax year. None of this drama is required. Just get those who need it some help.
    Anybody know how many false positives occur when testing for Covid China Flu?
    Recall CDC had issues with their test due to irregularities with one of the three reagents used?
    Are we getting rolled?

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  38. MicD says:

    Welcome to Reality – people who hate us control the house, they do what they do.
    VOTE THEM OUT !!

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  39. hokkoda says:

    96-0 vote means that Democrats are absolutely terrified of what they heard from voters this week. What Pelosi/Schumer did was despicable. Then the jackass media…my wife had ABC GMA on briefly this morning. After a 3-4 minute segment about how terrified people are of being able to buy food, they pivot to…

    “Pres. Trump is focusing on the economy instead of saving lives in order to save his re-election.”

    That is $&@$ing obscene. How is that level of hate, lying, and stupidity even POSSIBLE?! Oh right, it’s George Stephanopolous.

    Not a WORD about Democrats maybe getting around to passing the bill…tomorrow.

    We’re rapidly reaching a point where Democrat politicians ought to fear for their lives. Media people too. Bunch of rich assholes pretending to care about jobless Americans.

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    • Zydeco says:

      Pelosi/Schemer, the Dems and China won this yugely.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Nope. Trump on track to win 40+ states. I have friends who are not politically active at all telling me they called Nancy Pelosi’s office to scream profanities into her voicemail.

        Lying to yourself is legal, but I’m going to laugh at you until I can’t breathe in November.

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        • butch cassidy says:

          I agree 100% hok. I firmly believe that if he were to veto this bill is reelection bid would be dead.Like you posted, look how the voters are going after the dems and the media now. I also think he wins way over 40 states.

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  40. Mike in a Truck says:

    Things could be worse. Imagine if HRC were President. U.N. occupation troops would be running roughshod on the citizens. And my friends and I would be running raids and ambush on them.Thank God we have a Patriot in the Oval Office.#MakeRedChinaPay

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    • guidvce4 says:

      Mike, just the thought of the Pantsuit Princess in office gave me the chills and my heart did a little dance in my chest. At my age, that’s not a good thing at all.
      Just crossed myself and thanked the Man for the grace we were given by not having her win in ’16.
      Thanks for what you do, truckin’. Keep up the good work.

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  41. AnotherView says:

    Gee, how nice of Trump to defend $25 million to Kennedy Center. Especially since Melania sits on the board. $15 million to a black university is essentially pouring money down a rat hole, and $75 to National Endowment for the Arts so they can produce more anti-Christian ‘art’ like ‘Piss Christ.’ What the hell??? And paying people MORE money to stay out of work, than work. And caving into the dems by rolling back collection on student loan debt–all from democrat wish lists!
    What really blew my mind was when Trump said yesterday “Democrats have been treating us fairly” I won’t be voting for him again. He handed this country to the left.

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  42. cherokeepeople says:

    PT has a plan.he will take his lumps on this.no pain no gain..i read an article that the chinese were looking to renege on the phase-1 trade deal.if they do i see this as the perfect time to totally disconnect from china.end all travel from china, bring our drug production back here.once done double the tariffs on all chinese goods.start turning the screws on em.this will expose the red hats”those congress critters with chinese ties”..this could actually have a silver lining.

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  43. thedoc00 says:

    Hopefully the Governors, mayors and sob story peddlers who going to emerge as soon as this is signed, are taken to task as hypocrites for not communicating with “congressional” representation to add their “real” needs in place of the pork and delays for rights removing regulations their representatives stuffed into this bill.

    Governor Cuomo, Governor Newsome, Governor of Minnesota, Governor of Wisconsin ….

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  44. I want to tariff the hell out of China to pay for this.

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    • icanhasbailout says:

      I want China completely cut off from the world until Communists no longer control that nation.

      As long as the CCP rules they are a direct and imminent danger to all of humanity. This is just their first genetically engineered weapon. There will be more if the possibility remains open – it is incumbent upon us to close all vectors of attack.

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  45. Eric says:

    I continue to see tons of first-time handles on this site slamming the President.

    Troll alert.

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  46. bessie2003 says:

    Guessing this should be posted under this topic as it’s not a Presidential daily thread thing, but this gives some numbers, a break-down, of a period of time in Italy about how those who became infected or exposed to this virus came about, which gives a fresh perspective. Its from a guest post at Watts Up With That by a Mr. Willis Eschenbach:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/24/the-italian-connection/

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  47. TexSwede says:

    Regarding punishing China for their bad behavior in this mess, I thought I would just throw this out for comment. China owns a great deal of our debt. Maybe we ought to tell them their debt is cancelled in order to cover for the adverse impact on our country.

    Now to read this monstrosity.

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  48. amjean says:

    Its almost like they had this bill ready to go, hidden in a vault somewhere, just waiting for
    a pandemic, etc.

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  49. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Here’s a short list of congressional business as usual.

    P. 770 ~ $7M for Gallaudet University
    P. 771 ~ $13M for Howard University
    P. 773 ~ $50M for Institute of Museum & Library Services
    ~ $75M for National Public Radio
    P. 820 ~ $350M for Migration & Refugee Assistance

    These crooked politicians have their priorities list
    and deplorables are nowhere near the top.

    ~~~~~~~ TRUMP 2020 ~~~~~~~

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  50. As a small business owner (not more than 500 employees), here is my short analysis of that section of the act:

    If you were already in business prior to February 15th, 2020, you may take out a new bank loan that will cover the following business expenses from the period of February 15th until June 30th 2020 (basically a 4½ month window of expenses):

    Rent, Salaries, Hourly Employee wages, Utilities, Health Care policies, and a few other items.

    The loan will be forgiven for any monies spent on these items over that 4½ month window if you can prove that the company spent the money on these items and was negatively affected by these Covid-19 shutdowns. Details are a little sparse about the actual final loan forgiveness proof of expenses requirements.

    Requirements to obtain these loans appears to be very minimal, and there is not even a personal guarantee nor any collateral required. The government is basically handing out money to any small business that asks for it, regardless of their ability to pay back the money. There will be a lot of fraud, and a lot of new money pumped into the economy.

    The loans will generally be at 4% interest payable over a 10 year period, with any principal and interest deferred for 6 months. There are no fees that the business will have to pay for the loans, but the banks will receive a 5% fee amount from the government for loans up to $350,000.

    That is my take, but am still waiting on final passage to see what other details could emerge from Nazi Nancy.

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