February 28th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1135

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  1. TMonroe says:

    https://www.rt.com/news/481862-turkey-social-media-blackout-syria/

    Social media platforms across Turkey winked out after reports of an airstrike in Syria killing dozens of Turkish soldiers fueled rumors of an all-out war. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Messenger and YouTube were all reported down.
    Twitter was the first to go, with national provider Turk Telekom shutting off access around 11:30pm local time on Thursday. This was shortly after news broke that at least nine – the number has since continued to rise – Turkish soldiers were killed in Syria’s Idlib province.

    Nothing new, as it’s happened since the coup and when inconvenient truths emerge:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8805/turkey-child-rape

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    • jeans2nd says:

      SRN News (radio) is saying the death toll of Turkish soldiers is 33, and Turkey and Russia are having a stare-down over who is to blame, and questions are how fast Turkey and Russia will start a shooting war with each other.

      Lyndsey McCain Graham was hardest hit, as Pres Trump pulled our troops months ago and Scam Graham will not have his beloved war.

      Does anyone really think Pres Trump will allow American troops to come to the aid of NATO member Turkey? As if.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        Turkey sees Iran in a box so they’re acting up right now. Turkey is going to out on a limb and they’re going to be there all by themselves.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      Here in the US we do it differently. Instead of shutting it all down, the gov’t controls the content. Easy-peasy. Each to his own taste I guess.

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    • alligatriot says:

      Turkey will release refugees into Europe in an effort to leverage support from the U.S. and Europe. The usual suspects (Graham, “my” senator-Rubio, Pompeo) will try to add their voices to Erdogan’s in an effort to convince President Trump to commit resources to help the Turks.

      Russian and Syrian air and ground forces will continue to press the jihadis in and around Idlib. Any Turkish forces mixed in with the jihadis will likely be wiped out.

      Remains to be seen if the “new” Ottoman Emperor will get the help he needs to expand his empire into northern Syria.

      Sent another letter just now to Mr. Rubio again expressing my wishes for America to worry about America instead of Middle Eastern never-ending conflicts.

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  2. oldersoul says:

    Today’s Take:

    Today’s log on the market panic fire is from the UN wing of the globalist gang. A hysterical WHO report threatening gloom and doom (we’re all going to imminently die from coronavirus at any moment). So the hysteria continues. And it’s a Friday, so they will be pumping even harder for more losses. Paper losses.

    The reality is a far different story. More people worldwide died from cancer today before lunch than all that will die from this overhyped virus. Other than an intentionally tightened Chinese supply chain, the world is humming along. The US continues to roar.

    Remember, this is all intentional, to sicken the market, not us. Political weaponization and economic maneuvers are afoot. Extreme propaganda. It is not without high risk to the perpetrators. That suggests the level of desperation involved. At some level, they are burning their very own boats to create the smoke.

    It should not concern Main Street all that much. Most of us work, live, prosper, retire and die on Main Street. Our business and market demand will still be there when they are done with this latest tantrum. And so will PDJT.

    If you watch any propaganda box today, it will be all coronavirus doom and pending catastrophe. Their hair will be on fire. The screens will all be red. The makeup crews and directors want it that way. Just turn it OFF. Walk your dog or read a nice book today. Consider today a sort of economic Passover. It will be sunny this weekend.

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    • California Joe says:

      80,000 Americans died from the Flu virus last winter. That’s just in the United States! This is a nothing burger but I guess that the people who run Wall Street like Goldman Sachs must really want Bernie Sanders to be President!

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      • oldersoul says:

        No. Not Bernie. Wall Street does not want Communism. They are happiest with a compliant big-Government Democrat that turns the screws on Main Street and the smaller fish, to keep them fat and lazy.

        This is just the latest episode of their long-running show: Get Trump. Now entering Season 4.

        Like most TV series, the later episodes are not as creative or as nuanced as the early ones.

        It ‘jumped the shark’ with the Impeachment episode. This latest episode (‘Tank the Market’) is pretty obvious, and boring.

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        • jbowen82 says:

          I also use the reality show analogy, except I think PDT is producing it. Season 1 started with him and Melania going down the escalator and the finale was Election Night 2016. Season 2 started with the Inauguration and ended with the Kavanaugh confirmation. Season 3 started with the midterms and ended with the impeachment acquittal. We’re now in Season 4 and I can’t wait to see how it turns out!

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        • Cobra227 says:

          Your firing on all cylinders today…you old soul. And I’m digging it! Keep it comin. Good tonic for some of the “Nervous Nellies” pacing back and forth at the moment. 😉

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        • I think the theory of this market downturn being manufactured by some sort of “dark forces” in the US intent on wounding the President is easily disproven by the fact that all the major stock markets in other countries are also experiencing significant downturn. Their markets are not driven by our politics. More importantly, germs don’t care. Humans are just food to a virus.

          Markets respond negatively to fear of any sort of unknown danger like developing wars, weather events and in this case a possible pandemic. It’s likely to rebound once there’s solid news of an effective vaccine (for example), but right now we don’t know enough about virulence vs. lethality, there’s nothing but palliative treatment available, and we have shortages of both the tests and protective gear. The impact of this disease will almost certainly get worse, and no one knows how bad, so investors everywhere are temporarily spooked.

          For those who want to respond with arguments about how other diseases like “ordinary” flu kills more people, I wouldn’t suggest you say it to the families of anyone in the ICU. It’s cold comfort to know there are other more common ways to become sick, and at some point US patients with chronic conditions or immune-system compromise WILL be dying from COVID-19.

          https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

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          • TPW says:

            Or cold comfort to starving people in 3rd world countries whose food supply chain was cut off…cold comfort whose medicines were cut off….cold comfort to those who will lose their small businesses…I guess you get the picture. This propaganda will hurt far more people than this virus will.

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    • snarkybeach says:

      the media can’t keep it up for long because it will start to hurt their partners in the DNC.

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    • older soul- EXCELLENT comment. Thanks for posting. I needed that.

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  3. sunnyflower5 says:

    Yep.

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  4. treehouseron says:

    Joe Biden now admitting that he made up the story about getting arrested in South Africa.

    That makes what, a 40 year span between his public admissions of complete bull*** ?

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  5. oldersoul says:

    Just a further aside about this past week’s engineered market panic. The engineering of market ‘risk’ is not without risk to the engineers.

    If they push it too long and/or too hard, they may wind up giving PDJT exactly what he wants: an interest rate cut. A few more days of it, and it becomes more likely. Some FED regional chairs are already talking about it. As long as pent up demand is not too strong once supply recovers, inflationary pressures should be mild. But the US economy will strengthen by nearly a full point if they do.

    And they are also creating the very real risk that disrupted supply chains will not reorient in China, but closer to demand centers. Including in North America. Exactly as PDJT planned. The process has been underway at a less intense pace. China has not been the low-cost supply champ for some time now. But these events can only accelerate the exodus.

    So they are creating genuine risks to themselves doing this. Real ones, not propaganda ones.

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    • treehouseron says:

      They just ran some numbers on fox business, survey of investors say 51% of them expect a .5 rate cut in April, and 38% of them expect a .75 rate cut in April!

      This thing is ridiculous, completely out of control over a nothing story.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Prescient
      “Fed official talks cutting interest rates as markets continue to fall”
      Fox Biz 14:25

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    • Scrapiron says:

      The resistance will deliberately crash the markets just to damage President Trump. It is their final try to bring him down, sadly it is effective. Just look at all on media that are estatic about it and the sorry reaction of the public at large.
      No one seems to care. Its all about carona virus, something that will be a big nothing just like avian bird flu, sars, Ebola, and others. Just wait a few more weeks and it will be a flash in the pan. So 😢

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  6. cheering4america says:

    As a fellow St. Louisan this infuriates me:

    FTA:

    Clarke claims that he returned and beat her senseless with a metal rod. He allegedly stabbed her in the head and face with the rod, leaving her a bloody mess, before she could wrestle the rod out of his hand, and he fled the scene.

    The Somali teenager was charged with first-degree robbery as a result of his alleged actions, but the charges were ultimately dropped in juvenile court because the third-world refugee was determined to have too low of an IQ to be able to stand trial.

    “The most hurtful thing of all of this, is the dropped charges. That was much more hurtful than the physical assault,” Clarke said.

    A spokeswoman explained to 5 On Your Side how Somalis incredibly bereft of basic intelligence are essentially being given a free pass to commit vicious crimes after they are imported into the country on the taxpayer dole.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/somali-migrant-walks-free-after-allegedly-breaking-the-nose-of-a-missouri-woman-in-violent-struggle/

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  7. StanH says:

    It’s seeping out day-by-day that nothing is going to come of the Barr/Durham investigation into the coup. Though that is probably correct it will not be the end of it. The cat is out of the bag and what has been seen cannot be unseen. Now, they will throw up all manner of swamp gas in an attempt to quell the public.

    “Politics is the art of the possible.” Otto von Bismarck first coined the phrase in the mid Nineteenth Century having to do with the unification of Germany. It has been bastardized and used by the modern political class to slowly erode our Constitutional Republic. Now the equation has changed and the public want’s change and course correction and this is going to garner tough resistance from the entrenched swamp rats. We can now see that clearly every day their double standards, this is a problem. So if “Politics is the art of the possible” the big question is, what is possible?

    With the electorate rebelling left & right, what is an entitled swamp rat to do? They are scared and becoming more sloppy and overt as more and more light pierces the ramparts of the Beltway while productive, thinking, God fearing, flag waving, taxpaying America is watching as they attempt their coup. This is a spot they never want to be in but they are. Who cares about the ne’er-do-wells aka Bernie Bots, they’re bums today and will be bums tomorrow.

    “If” they don’t act accordingly and begin to self correct, it will done for them. That will be much uglier than simply doing the right thing, arrest, trials and convictions. But it seems the political class in this country has convinced themselves they are impervious to the laws of this country. If they can just wait us out and after 2024 they can get things back to normal. The truth is much more stark than they can realize or want to accept. The public is pissed, we know that things were going wrong and now we are going to force the correction and I believe it can still be done with the ballot-box. We proved that in 2016.

    As we continue the turning, and it is turning folks — when the swamp rats state that; “Politics is the art of the possible.” In time, the answer will be found in the Constitution and what is good for the American people. We stick with our Great President Trump, WE WILL CRUSH THEM! And will force the criminals out or in jail. And our country will grow and prosper for every American regardless of color, or creed.

    KAG!…by Hanging tough, be cool and be prepared! We’ve got a country to save.

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  8. sunnyflower5 says:

    Given he based most of his company there…..

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  9. sunnyflower5 says:

    Wonder what’s happening to the 10 Billion Bazos pledge towards”climate change”.

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  10. treehouseron says:

    This stock market crap is so funny (In a tragic way) to watch, these a holes that run the market waited until weeks after the Coronavirus to get all their shorts in, then crash the hell out of it and act like it’s the end of the world. They’re all getting rich, all the seniors with retirement plans are getting the shaft, and it’s over 16 infections, no deaths…. on a virus that occurs every year (that’s why this one’s called Corona 19)…. and the average flu killed at least 18 thousand people in the USA in the last few months.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

    I mean I’ve seen some public hysteria before, but this is on another level. The evil son of a losers at CNN are probably sitting around gleeful as hell watching this crap.

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    • MAGADJT says:

      A lot of it these days is due to the automated investing algorythms like you see with Betterment and Wealth Front, etc. When a slide starts the algos start selling everything and exacerbates it.

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      • The Dark Lord says:

        the algos don’t generate the large sell orders … thats panic selling from retail investors selling their mutual fund shares which force the fund manager to sell … no market fundamentals have changed … this in turn forces the pension managers to sell to stop losses … often mandated by their risk departments …

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        • thedoc00 says:

          Yes Algos can and are set to react to headlines to generate panics. There is a boat load of “hedged” money involved that moves very fast after the desired effect is created. The “global virus” is a made to order situation for headline algorithms when there is a media intent on crashing the market for poltical reasons.

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    • dallasdan says:

      The “big cigars” on Wall Street very seldom lose. As you noted, they plan and initiate nearly all significant market movements. I worked among them for four years, and I learned that their condescension regarding small investors is completely disgusting.

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    • California Joe says:

      In two months nobody will even remember what Coronavirus is! Do you remember Zika, SARS, MERS, Ebola? How long did the market take to recover from those “pandemic” events? LOL

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    • Scrapiron says:

      Yeah, this senior got out of the market last year and I intend to stay out. I’m going to enjoy the fruits of my labor. I have a nice pension, SS and savings.

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  11. Reserved55 says:

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    • treehouseron says:

      Strange nobody there is smart enough to know they benefited from Trump’s tax cuts, everybody I know did.

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    • PInky1920 says:

      I don’t mean to offend those who are mentally ill when it is obvious in their appearance; I don’t mean to offend anyone, but…

      Just exactly where is Jo Biden in this clip? The people in this clip look um, well, not entirely “aware”. Sad.

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      • Reserved55 says:

        Conway S Carolina

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      • treehouseron says:

        While I agree with your assessment about them not looking aware, I’d like to point out that clearly in the thumbnail of the video (you don’t have to click it) it says South Carolina.

        One of the hard truths in life I’ve had to learn is that generally when i go off on a rant I’m complaining about something I catch myself doing from time to time too.

        The good people of South Carolina are being misled, and yes they’re not aware of what’s going on, but I have faith that they’ll snap out of it, like I did at one point.

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  12. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  13. Reserved55 says:

    Where’s Hunter painting Coronavirus

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  14. IGiveUp says:

    Stunning: Dan Bongino Reveals FBI 302 from May 2017; FBI Team Tells Rod Rosenstein the President Is NOT a Suspect–Sets up Mueller Investigation Anyway

    (News knows, yet no law enforcement/Barr/DOJ/FBI interest)

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/02/28/stunning-dan-bongino-reveals-fbi-302-dated-may-10-2017-of-fbi-team-tells-rod-rosenstein-the-president-is-not-a-suspect/

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  15. Come on, folks…Biden is right about 150 million Americans being gone. You all saw the end of “Avengers: Infinity War” right?

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    • Publius2016 says:

      but they sll come back after “The Blip”

      real question is why would any “sane person” vote for Biden…oh that’s they’re Dimms…nevermind…

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      • Commodore_Decker says:

        I don’t think Crazy Joe saw Endgame yet or, given his propensity to play loose with facts, he may start claiming credit for the return from The Blip. Ya know, he negotiated with Thanos and all. Lol

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  16. sunnyflower5 says:

    A Dim choosing violence and discourse — who would expect such a thing? https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1233434257902776322?s=20

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  17. jeans2nd says:

    Rep Devin Nunes’ podcast is out. Rep Nunes speaks with author Lee Smith.
    The title says it all –
    “Mueller Madness: Prosecution of Trump Adviser Was Based on a Lie. With @LeeSmithDC”
    16:23
    https://devinnunes.podbean.com/e/mueller-madness-prosecution-of-trump-adviser-was-based-on-a-lie-with-leesmithdc/
    Another great podcast by Rep Nunes

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  18. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  19. oldersoul says:

    Per Mick Mulvaney, just a short time ago.

    “Really, what I might do today to calm the market is to tell the people to turn their televisions off for 24 hours.”

    Best advice of the day.

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  20. Ivehadit says:

    Step back and think:
    The president was aware of the implications of coronavirus in January..probably was last November. You know him. Do you think he did not foresee what the possible outcomes could be? Imho, HE IS PREPARED for this market and the evil ones. I am confidant of that.

    WE ARE WITH YOU, MR. PRESIDENT! TOUGHER AND STRONGER THAN EVER!

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  21. treehouseron says:

    Never Trumper Neal Cavuto called in Swamp Guardian Chris Not As Good As His Daddy Wallace, to fear monger the hell out of everything for 15 minutes on Fox Business.

    So Chrissy says that President Trump can’t claim ownership of the stock market going up (due to his economic policies and trade policies being incredibly effective) and not claim ownership of the stock market going down (due to a contagion outbreak in China).

    The Lord has blessed us with stupid enemies. These are the kind of stupid, ridiculous arguments our foes have to cling to because President Trump is doing such an amazing job.

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  22. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Not surprised.

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  23. Keep America Great 2020

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  24. treehouseron says:

    Andy Puzder calling Bernie Sanders a moron on live television, LOL. Says Bernie came out and said Trump won’t give poor people medical attention if they catch the Coronavirus. Puzder openly mocks and laughs that idea, saying what kind of moron would believe that the President of the United States wouldn’t help poor people infected with a virus?

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  25. Scrapiron says:

    The resistance will deliberately crash the markets just to damage President Trump. It is their final try to bring him down, sadly it is effective. Just look at all on media that are estatic about it and the sorry reaction of the public at large.
    No one seems to care. Its all about carona virus, something that will be a big nothing just like avian bird flu, sars, Ebola, and others. Just wait a few more weeks and it will be a flash in the pan. So 😢

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    • Co says:

      I agree and I care. I truly think we rally next week. Of course it all depends what the news media does this weekend. President Trump has got this. I think IF the virus was a political play they lost. No way do we go down with this!!! Best regards.

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  26. Reserved55 says:

    New Team Trump ad.

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  27. treehouseron says:

    Susan Lee (beautiful!) doing a great job holding Tim Cook’s feet to the fire in her oh so sweet way.

    Asks him if he’s going to move out of China a little bit, to Cambodia or somewhere, because China isn’t cheap anymore.

    Cook says he’s not concerned about cost (China is getting more expensive, lol) he’s more concerned with quality, and speed of delivery.

    Susan asks about expansion into India, Cook says they can now sell in India because Trump got him in.

    Cook says the reason him and Trump can work together is because they both care a lot about creating jobs, and training people for jobs in the future.

    Said Apple is interested in political policy but doesn’t donate money to any political campaigns on either side.

    Said he wants to engage instead of just standing on the side complaining and yelling. Comes off as a fairly unlikable Globalist to me but he’s at least smart enough to play the game.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Susan later said she got the impression that there might be some movement out of China, but not quite yet.

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      • Reserved55 says:

        Who is Susan Lee?

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        • DJ says:

          TV journalist for Fox Business. She’s pretty good at her job (and also pretty hot, if I might add).

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        • treehouseron says:

          She’s one of the many bright spots on Fox Business.

          On Fox Business from like 8-12 they have Stuart Varney on, he’s very pro Trump and most of his reporters are too. so you get this great group of people on there who all appear to support the President even though they usually don’t come right out and say it.

          One of those people is Susan Li, a very bright young woman who does a lot of the business reporting and follows stories, she’s probably the sharpest one on the show and also very attractive. Dierdre Bolton is great too. Also Lauren Simonetti is great, and Kristina Partsinevelos…. It’s called “Varney & Co”. Susan’s name I just learned isn’t spelled Lee it’s spelled Li.

          After Varney goes off Never Trumper Cavuto comes on, but a lot of the other personalities still join the show so it makes it tolerable. So you watch 5 minutes of moron Cavuto then Dierdre does a report that’s level headed and clear minded and it restores your faith in humanity, LOL

          Here’s part of the interview, the more juicy parts haven’t been online yet….

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    • CorwinAmber says:

      geez, attractive women are such a distraction…the only time I’ve ever been interviewed for anything was many years ago during operations in the Balkans by some hot blonde reporterette who wanted me to discuss munitions storage sites in the AOR. I gotta tell ya after weeks of frustration and repetition, she was a sight for sore eyes and it was all I could do to exercise restraint and observe OPSEC rules. Thanks goodness we weren’t allow to drink downrange…who knows how many beans I would’ve spilled, I’m jest sayin’

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  28. yy4u says:

    When I first came to the Treehouse, Sundance had a fantastic (though awful) painting of an elaborate city behind walls. Through the walls spewed waste (? sewage) into a river. Beside the river were huts and using the river small figures. It reminded me of an old “Star Trek” episode called “The Cloud Minders” where the elite had built a beautiful city on an artificial cloud. Before any of you begin to think Sundance’s painting (and “Cloud Minders”) was/is over the top, read this article. Same thing. Elite East Coasters ship their garbage and waste to Red States.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2020/02/27/heres-a-devastating-story-about-bernie-sanders-why-havent-his-rivals-exploited-it-n2562002

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      I recall the Cloud Minders episode. Because it was Science Fiction, Star Trek was able to depict then-explosive and controversial social subjects on the small screen that other shows could not nor dared to do. One reason IMO why it was cancelled, like the Smothers Brothers. A Private Little War and Bread and Circuses were other episodes of that type.

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      • Jim in TN says:

        I find it interesting, despite the massive write in campaign that kept it alive, Star Trek never really had the viewers to sustain itself.

        But decades of reruns guaranteed that there were audiences for movies, TNG, Deep Space 9, Voyager, and many more, and some are ongoing.

        Amazing. The original may have succeeded in today’s viewing environment. I suspect that some of the follow ons had enough viewers to succeed in Star Trek’s viewing environment.

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    • Reserved55 says:

      He included the drawing in a post not so many days ago. Probably a Breadline Bernie post.

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    • dow40kby2024 says:

      Bernie, and many other Pols, are yuuuuuuuuuge hypocrites. The article gives more examples.

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  29. wtd says:

    Did you know that Crowdstrike Set up a Foundation in 2017? That’s interesting.
    @CharlesOrtel

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  30. Truthfilter says:

    I know many Treepers have expressed some scepticism about Steve Bannon in recent years but his ongoing “War Room: Pandemic” series is very informative. He has had several expert guests with varying but mostly substantiated opinions on China and the current Coronavirus threat. I started listening at episode 15 but here is a link to a more recent broadcast:

    I just assume that the MSM and the Democrats will always weaponize any and all potential crises for political points against our president. That doesn’t mean we should dismiss the real potential threat of this disease. The fact that China makes 90% of our drugs and medical supplies IS a matter of national security regardless of the potential of COVID19 to become an epidemic in the U.S.

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  31. Reserved55 says:

    Chromosomes are the evolution of the revolution. Forward Fidel Sanders we march.

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    • Co says:

      Y ask Y , She has had her day she will be a piss ant in the civilian sector but I am thankful she will be voted out and NONE of We The People will never pay her a pension. Bye Bye AOC

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    • Greg1 says:

      Soooooooo she CAN’T tell folks what a Y chromosome is. Hence the dodging of the question while bragging about irrelevant awards that I didn’t realize were given to people who made a career of bartending.

      Got it.

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    • DJ says:

      “…I hold awards from MIT Lincoln Lab &others for accomplishments in microbiology.”
      ————————————————————————————————————–
      And she was tending bar because no one would hire her for a real job because she had too many awards??????

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      • sunnyflower5 says:

        In high school ! She won a high school science contest…must be sponsored by MIT.

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        • sunnyflower5 says:

          A mixologist and MIT scientist. Oh, and have you seen her dance and build Ikea furniture. And, the time the garbage disposal was thing of wonderment.

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          • mostlyogauge says:

            I think I read some where she has a whole bunch of performing circus fleas …..

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            • vladdy says:

              What’s nuts is the straw man people throw up — if you’re a person with faith in God, you do not believe in science — or evolution. Um..guys, both evolution and God can work together beautifully in theory, y’know? Do a little critical thinking.

              That’s what they’re doing with Pence — saying he shouldn’t be an executive managing the virus response because “he doesn’t believe in science” — which I guess is how they describe Christians….duh.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      So, if we take AOC at her word, she went from being a budding scientist to being a blooming idiot.

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    • Well, “evolution” is an established observation at the species level … hence the title of Darwin’s seminal book … but it is not all “certain” that it actually applies beyond that level. And, if you read Darwin’s treatise most carefully and in light of the so-called “philosophy of science” perspective from which it was written, you will see that never does he say that it does. One of the speculative conclusions is that “he could not see a reason why it could not,” but one of the fundamental ground-rules of scientific philosophy is that such a statement is not “an assertion that it does.” We must be very, very, very careful not to commit that logical or philosophical error ourselves.

      One thing that we do observe about reproductive biology is: “each according to its own kind.” Although there is now a vast number of “kinds,” we see them reproducing successfully and faithfully. When “errors” occur, as surely they must, we see miscarriage. When the wrong animal mates with the wrong animal, pregnancy does not occur. And for the most part we still don’t understand why.

      Like it or not, this is yet another vast area where “God has not revealed most of His mysteries.” We see it … indeed, we are all present here-and-now because of it … but we are forced to admit that we still know almost nothing about it. Even having sequenced thousands of genomes so far.

      Yes, there are plenty of good reasons “not to believe in [non-species] evolution.” Our knowledge simply does not go that far. Yet!

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      • TarsTarkas says:

        Darwin proposed a hypothesis, not a law. It was his great fear, which was quickly realized, that his writings would be twisted into supporting odious attitudes and policies. IMO his hypothesis has been mostly confirmed at the micro level but not the macro. Genetic drift in isolated populations does result in speciation. But there are no significant gaps in the fossil record as he proposed. Major changes in floras and faunas of past ages are due to black swan events (bolide impacts, continent-sized volcanic eruptions, human migration), not species senescence or the fit replacing the unfit.

        Not all genetic errors are lethal. Those that survive to reproduce add to genetic diversity for that particular taxon.

        Not all cross-species matings are sterile. Witness blackberries, tiglons, coydogs, and more. And many of those that are fruitless we know why, gene mismatch being one cause.

        However the exceptions do prove the rule.

        I have found, as many others have, that the more one learns, the more one becomes aware of what they do not know. As far as your last statement regarding God and evolution goes, I’d go back even further than that. What made the monobloc that was the germ of our universe explode? What made it explode when it did? Why does the universe that we live in possess the physical laws that enabled life to exist at all? THAT to me is the question.

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      • Linda K. says:

        It is called the “theory” of evolution. They have never found an evolutionary link for instance, between apes and man, although someone faked a find in the 1950’s. Was it a skeleton they named “Lucy”?

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        • Actually, it is and always was just a “hypothesis.” We don’t have enough observations to support a “theory,” beyond species. (For which the observations are readily available.) And, we also don’t have compelling evidence to suggest that “extending beyond ‘species'” is possible. We’re flying blind.

          The purpose of “philosophy of science” (or “scientific philosophy”) is to provide a framework for discussion of things where empirical evidence and observation does not and cannot exist. The framework of discussion is to explore a line of reasoning until an apparent contradiction occurs. (Emphasis: “apparent.”) In effect, “to explore the known-to-us solution space, in an organized manner, as far as is presently known-to-us.”

          He was speaking and writing to fellow scholars who implicitly understood this. He was correct to know that the general public would not.

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        • Debra says:

          The missing link? Rh – blood type.

          No. Not a mutation in blood, imho. Human species began with it; cross-species mutation begat the Rh+ blood type which is the mutation from the origin of the species . . .

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        • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

          Gravity is a theory too, but there aren’t many people who refute it.

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    • trialbytruth says:

      why do I have the desire to scream BS

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    • Yy4u says:

      Is AOC the dumbest person in Congress? Inquiring minds want to know. Doesn’t anybody love this idiot? If so, shouldn’t he or she tell her to just shut up. The Y chromosome has NOTHING to do with evolution, darling. It has to do with sex and there are only two: X and Y. Tell your “transgendered” friends that.

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    • Bendix says:

      She didn’t write that. She doesn’t speak that way.

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  32. TJ says:

    L@@k

    The Public Health Legacy of the 1976 Swine Flu Outbreak

    Some of the American public’s hesitance to embrace vaccines – the flu vaccine in particular – can be attributed to the long-lasting effects of a failed 1976 political campaign to mass-vaccinate the public against a strain of the swine flu virus. This government-led campaign was widely viewed as a debacle and put an irreparable dent in future public health initiatives, as well as negatively influenced the public’s perception of both the flu and the flu shot in this country.

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-public-health-legacy-of-the-1976-swine-flu-outbreak

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    • It was also a fundamental reminder of the peculiar nature of viruses. The influenza family of viruses in particular mutates very rapidly. The “swine flu” for which the vaccine was developed turned out not to prevent many of the “swine” cases that occurred. Furthermore, the decision to attempt “mass-inoculation” as a defense against the presence of a particular new strain was not justified. The number of people who were ever actually exposed to the virus was thought to be much smaller than the number of those who received vaccinations against it.

      We should soberly remember these lessons when we confront the present virus. We must respond to it intelligently. There are many hundreds of potentially-serious viruses “in circulation” on this planet all the time.

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  33. treehouseron says:

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    • JG3 says:

      First things First: What was the heath/living condition of all that have died? ( If one is taking cemo, an everyday infection can take-you-out.) So,If it’s possible to get this data, it may help calm the panic push! USA health teams, in China, should request access to this data and/or have a pretty good idea.

      If countries want US taxpayer’s help, they should share all pertinent info on those that die/have died. Then, the health teams should report it to VP Pence. Then, VP Pence/his team should include it in the communications to the American people.

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    • treehouseron says:

      We need to come up (or maybe somebody already has) with a name for this type of move. He’s praising one thing Trump did so that when he slams everything else Trump does, he has cover. Old debate trick.

      “Honey, remember, I said last week you look great in that red dress! So coming from me, when I tell you those jeans make you look fat, you know i’m fair and impartial about it….”

      You think that would work???

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  34. MAGADJT says:

    Funny that some folks stay glued to their TV’s willing lapping up the propaganda, and then dutifully run here to ‘report it’ to the rest of us. Get smart people and turn off the charlatans. They are gaslighting you. They are using you.

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    • Landslide says:

      AMEN!

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    • Co says:

      Got that right

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    • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

      I’m not watching TV reports. I’m getting info from factual sources online.

      Again, the 2009 H1N1 pandemic killed 12,000 people in the US. The mortality rate was .02%. The mortality rate of COVID-19 is 2% or more. (In Italy right now it’s 2.6%). If it spreads through the US like H1N1 did, we could see more than 1 million deaths. Imagine that.

      Stop being emotional about this. Do the math. Take into account that pretty much nobody on the planet has immunity

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  35. JG3 says:

    First things First: What was the heath/living condition of all that have died? ( If one is taking cemo, an everyday infection can take-you-out.) So,If it’s possible to get this data, it may help calm the panic push! USA health teams, in China, should request access to this data and/or have a pretty good idea.

    If countries want US taxpayer’s help, they should share all pertinent info on those that die/have died. Then, the health teams should report it to VP Pence. Then, VP Pence/his team should include it in the communications to the American people.

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    • JG3. There is a chart shown recently that shows that the “2-21/2 % “ death rate from this flu is mainly those 60-70 and up in age. Not shocking to me. Whereas, I believe , a more normal ‘death rate’ for this severe flu for those under 60. Not too different from all of the existing influenzas. Media always wants to make a ‘train wreck’ out of everything. I have had a serious cough and chest congestion finally over for the last month. I’m going to play golf tomorrow. MAGA

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      • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

        The chart I have seen shows around 2% for most age cateogeries but even higher for 60 and up.

        Regular flu death rate is only .1% or .2%. H1N1 was .02%. That makes Coronavirus 100 times more deadly than H1N1. H1N1 killed more than 12,000 people in a one year span of time from Apr 2009 to Apr 2010. Imagine if H1N1 had a 2% death rate, there would have been more than 1 million people dying from it. Well that’s Coronavirus’ death rate.

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    • JG3 says:

      i.e. How many were:
      Chronically Ill?
      Compromised due to other health issues?
      Able to receive timely medical/dental care?
      Chronically Malnourished?
      Elderly?
      Pregnant?
      How many were living in:
      Extreme Poverty?
      No heat?
      clean water?
      Inadequate clothing?
      Overworked?
      Stressed?
      Extreme isolation?
      Rural?
      Prison?
      Inter-City?
      Universities?
      Within Community around/in contact with Wuhan lab?

      How many were from Hong Jong?

      Get the same from Iran, if possible???

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      • JG3 says:

        Hong “K”ong?

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      • JG3 says:

        Also, I was always told, risk is “21” days after viral exposure???

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      • Super elite covfefe999 loves her President! says:

        Does it really matter exactly what the victims’ circumstances were?

        Yesterday, Italy had 650 confirmed cases and 17 deaths. That’s a 2.6% mortality rate. That’s really high, not as bad as SARS and MERS but way higher than influenza. COVID-19 has the potential to be a fatal illness. If it spreads widely we’re going to probably see large numbers of deaths. In 2009-2010 mild H1N1 killed 12,000 people in the US, and that mortality rate was only .02%.

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  36. Ivehadit says:

    Who is going to ring the bell to let everyone know when to get back in to the pool a.k.a. markets?

    The ever fatal flaw of not sticking to YOUR game plan and NOT the media’s agenda.

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  37. treehouseron says:

    The Primary is Bernie’s to sell and Bloomberg’s to buy.

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  38. Ivehadit says:

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    We have reached an interesting point in American politics when Democrats are pinning their hopes for winning a presidential election on a flu virus #Coranovirus

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  39. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  40. Don McAro says:

    The Media is going to Bring down this Virus campaign down very quickly
    You have super Tuesday coming up and countless leftist Rallies and gatherings.

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  41. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  42. Todd says:

    Dow trying to come back now…

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  43. 2020 President Trump re-elected in a landslide

    2024 Donald Trump Jr President, Candace Owens as Vice President
    2028 Donald Trump Jr President, Candace Owens as Vice President

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  44. MaineCoon says:

    Linked is the 40-page WHO-China Joint Mission On Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    (ToC below with applicable pages for select information of interest)

    FTA:
    Table of Contents
    I. THE MISSION 3
    GOAL AND OBJECTIVES 3
    MEMBERS & METHOD OF WORK 3
    II. MAJOR FINDINGS 4
    THE VIRUS 4
    THE OUTBREAK 5
    THE TRANSMISSION DYNAMICS 9
    THE SIGNS, SYMPTOMS, DISEASE PROGRESSION AND SEVERITY 11
    THE CHINA RESPONSE 14
    KNOWLEDGE GAPS 16
    III. ASSESSMENT 16
    THE CHINA RESPONSE & NEXT STEPS 16
    THE GLOBAL RESPONSE & NEXT STEPS 18
    IV. MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS 21
    FOR CHINA 21
    FOR COUNTRIES WITH IMPORTED CASES AND/OR OUTBREAKS OF COVID-19 21
    FOR UNINFECTED COUNTRIES 22
    FOR THE PUBLIC 22
    FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY 23
    ANNEXES 24
    A. WHO-CHINA JOINT MISSION MEMBERS 24
    B. SUMMARY AGENDA OF THE MISSION 25
    C. DETAILED TECHNICAL FINDINGS 27
    RESPONSE MANAGEMENT, CASE AND CONTACT MANAGEMENT, RISK COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY
    ENGAGEMENT 27
    CLINICAL CASE MANAGEMENT AND INFECTION PREVENTION AND CONTROL 31
    LABORATORY, DIAGNOSTICS AND VIROLOGY 33
    RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT 34
    D. KNOWLEDGE GAPS 36
    E. OPERATIONAL & TECHNICAL RECOMMENDATIONS

    Members & Method of Work

    The Joint Mission consisted of 25 national and international experts from China, Germany,
    Japan, Korea, Nigeria, Russia, Singapore, the United States of America and the World Health
    Organization (WHO). The Joint Mission was headed by Dr Bruce Aylward of WHO and Dr
    Wannian Liang of the People’s Republic of China. The full list of members and their
    affiliations is available in Annex A. The Joint Mission was implemented over a 9-day period
    from 16-24 February 2020.

    To gain first-hand knowledge on
    the field level implementation and impact of the national and local response strategy, under
    a range of epidemiologic and provincial contexts, visits were conducted to Beijing
    Municipality and the provinces of Sichuan (Chengdu), Guangdong (Guangzhou, Shenzhen)
    and Hubei (Wuhan). The field visits included community centers and health clinics,
    country/district hospitals, COVID-19 designated hospitals, transportations hubs (air, rail,
    road), a wet market, pharmaceutical and personal protective equipment (PPE) stocks
    warehouses, research institutions, provincial health commissions, and local Centers for
    Disease Control (provincial and prefecture).

    II. Major findings
    The major findings are described in six sections: the virus, the outbreak, transmission
    dynamics, disease progression and severity, the China response and knowledge gaps. More
    detailed descriptions of technical findings are provided in Annex C.

    https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

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  45. Co says:

    One hand shake with President Trump would have spread this crap. It did not work!

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  46. Reserved55 says:

    Congressman Brian Mast, ex military double amputee, repeats his gotcha performance in this morning’s hearing on Iran and killing Qessam Soleimani.

    2:00.00 mark

    https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hearings?ID=BDA27B1F-9B7C-4173-80D2-0433E8974A4A

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  47. Dora says:

    BAD ACTORS ARE CRASHING THE MARKETS: To Stop the Current Short Sale Attack on the Stock Market President Trump Must Reinstate the Uptick Rule

    Bad actors are using the Coronavirus news to try to cause a market panic.

    They are making a killing by short selling, and they are going to tank the Trump economy.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/bad-actors-are-crashing-the-markets-to-stop-the-current-short-sale-attack-on-the-stock-market-president-trump-must-reinstate-the-uptick-rule/

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