Rand Paul: President Trump Does Not Support Clean FISA renewal – McConnell Meets With President Trump to Discuss…

In November of 2019 buried deep in the congressional budget Continuing Resolution (CR) was a short-term extension to reauthorize the FISA “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], all parts of the Patriot Act.  As a result of the FISA CR inclusion the terminal deadline was pushed to March 15, 2020.

AG Bill Barr is requesting a clean FISA renewal with no reforms or revisions. Senate Leader Mitch McConnell and Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham support the AG request.  The American people want it scrapped, or, at a minimum strongly revised. Congress is trying to hide the FISA renewal within the Coronavirus appropriations bill.

According to media reporting, Rand Paul said he talked to President Trump yesterday, and President Trump does not support a “clean renewal” of the FISA authorities that were used against him and his campaign:

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump told Sen. Rand Paul that he does not support a clean extension of expiring surveillance authorities, throwing the future of the program into doubt ahead of a fast-approaching March 15 deadline to re-up key features of the Patriot Act.

The Kentucky Republican told reporters that Trump made the comments to him on Wednesday, just a day after Attorney General William Barr told GOP senators that Congress should extend the expiring provisions regarding roving wire taps, lone wolf actors and the most controversial provision: call data collection.

Asked about the discrepancy between his conversation with Trump and Barr’s remarks to senators, Paul said there was “misinformation that got out from some people in the administration” about the expiring surveillance authorities.

“The president was out of the country and somebody mischaracterized his positions. I’ll leave it up to y’all to figure that out,” Paul added.

Paul said Trump is “very supportive” of his amendment to prevent the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act from targeting Americans, a reflection of conservative unease over the way the Trump campaign was surveilled in 2016.

“FISA warrants should not be issued against Americans,” Paul said on Thursday afternoon. “Americans shouldn’t be spied on by a secret court. I think he agrees completely with that and that’s the amendment that I’m going to insist on. I’m not letting anything go easy without a vote on my amendment.”

Paul’s conversation with Trump could blow up plans by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to extend those expiring authorities, which McConnell said was his preference on Tuesday. (read more)

Yesterday CTH warned of a scenario where congress would attempt to slip a clean renewal authorization into the Coronavirus appropriations bill.   Today, that exact scenario was being discussed on Capitol Hill.

Following the conversation with President Trump, Senator Rand Paul is planning to propose legislation that would force reform to the current FISA authorities.

While CTH disagrees with the Rand Paul proposal, and would rather see the bulk data gathering/collection and opportunities for exploitation eliminated, at least Senator Paul is attempting to stop the system from being abused against political campaigns. WATCH:

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Two issues…. and again CTH is not attempting to dismiss the righteous effort by Senator Paul… However:

(A) Isn’t it already illegal, unlawful, unconstitutional and grossly corrupt, to use FISA as a political surveillance tool? If so, why do we need another law or rule change to make it more illegal, more unlawful and more grossly corrupt?

(B) Why do only elected officials or candidates for office get protection from having their fourth amendment rights violated by exploitation of the FISA courts? Shouldn’t the same standard of protection apply to everyone?

CTH understands what Rand Paul is attempting to do, but it’s the FISA process being used against *any* American that is the problem. No American should have their constitutional rights travel through a secret court in order to usurp them. Let FISA apply to “non Americans”; and if there is a need for surveillance or collection of information on Americans, then let the government approach regular Title-3 courts for domestic warrants.

Lastly, with all of this taking place it appears Senator McConnell went to see President Trump today about this issue.

Prior to the December 9, 2019, inspector general report on FISA abuse, FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA bulk database collection program being exploited for unauthorized reasons. For the past several years no corrective action taken by the intelligence community has improved the abuses outlined by the FISA court.

Keep in mind the deadline for the DOJ to respond to the FISA court about the abusive intelligence practices identified in the Horowitz report was February 5th, more than two weeks ago. The responses from the DOJ and FBI have not been made public.

FISA Court Order – FISA Court Notice of Extension.

It appears the DOJ is trying to get the FISA reauthorization passed before the FISC declassifies the corrective action outlined from the prior court order. This response would also include information about the “sequestering” of evidence gathered as a result of the now admitted fraudulent and misrepresented information within the FISA applications.

The FISA “business records provision”, the “roving wiretap” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], again all parts of the Patriot Act, must not be reauthorized without a full public vetting of the abuses that have taken place for the past several years.

At a minimum the pending DOJ/FBI response to the FISA court needs to be made public prior to any reauthorization by congress. And to better understand the scale of the issue, the consequences when the system is abused, the upstream sequester material needs to be made public.

Let the American public see what investigative evidence was unlawfully gathered, and let us see who and what was exposed by the fraudulently obtained FISA warrants. At a minimum congress and the American people need to understand the scale of what can happen when the system is wrong – BEFORE that exact same system is reauthorized.

Declassification of existing records would reveal the November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702 search query abuse as outlined in the April 2017 court opinion written by FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer.  Who exactly are these private sector FBI contractors behind the 85% fraudulent search queries?  This was a weaponized surveillance and domestic political spying operation. [The trail was laid down in specific detail by Judge Collyer – SEE HERE]

The U.S. constitution’s fourth amendment is being violated by the continued abuse of bulk metadata collection, particularly when private contractors and government officials illegally access the system.  The 2016 FISA review (party declassified in 2017) and the 2018 FISA review (party declassified in 2019) both show ongoing and systematic wrongdoing despite all prior corrective action and promises.

This needs to be stopped.

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273 Responses to Rand Paul: President Trump Does Not Support Clean FISA renewal – McConnell Meets With President Trump to Discuss…

  1. billybob says:

    Anybody arrested today ?

    Liked by 11 people

    • litlbit2 says:

      The Bagpipe now has a cork permanently installed, as the Bush/Swamp corruption continues to cash the Foreign Aid check. What a System, what an AG? And to think we could of had a Sessions, Comey, Lynch, Holder? Again why did we get Barr? Those pesky little notes from the the casket?

      We do not need a Bagpipe player, we need a Organ Grinder for the Monkeys 🐒. Call your Representatives, let them know if they vote for this cra$ they are more than likely involved in criminal activity along with their partners. 2020

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    • lieutenantm says:

      Get these people to jail BEFORE this virus thing hits is my recommendation.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      FISA isn’t allowed to spy on Americans in the first place, but they do anyway.
      Adding more words and amendments is a joke and an insult to all American citizens.

      “Government of the people, by the people, for the people……………”
      I don’t think so.

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      • CAMaven says:

        Well then let’s see if he actually vetoes it if passed. He’s caved on stuff like this before.

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        • Cobra227 says:

          Caved? Cmon man! This President has been “walking to school up hill (both ways) in the snow” everyday since taking office.
          A little help now and again would be nice, dont you think?
          Caved? Nah! Doing the best with the crappy hands he is constantly dealt? Yup!
          MAGA!

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        • albertus magnus says:

          I agree. Let’s see. However, I wouldnt characterize it as caving. I simply do not believe that he has intentions of trying to fix this mess…..he campaigned on MAGAnomics, immigration, no Middle East wars and conservative judges. Those are his focus and he has been 100% on these issues. It is his base that has been pushing the DeepState clean up angle.

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        • Jan says:

          Pres. Trump, after a meeting with McConnell, nominated John Ratcliffe again for DNI. He either agreed to renew FISA for one more year in exchange with getting Ratcliffe head of DNI or he had something else to bargain with McConnell. Whatever he negotiated, Pres. Trump is clearly taking on the Senate Intel Committee. And why not??? The Democrats & RINOa on both the House & Senate Intel committees are trying to take him down.

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      • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

        Constitution still prevails regardless of what they want us to believe.

        https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1806

        Due process, suppression of evidence, etc.

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        • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

          See why law is so awesome…

          (8) PersonThe term “person” means—
          (A) an electronic communication service provider; or
          (B) a landlord, custodian, or other person who may be authorized or required to furnish assistance pursuant to—
          (i) an order of the court established under section 1803(a) of this title directing such assistance;
          (ii) a certification in writing under section 2511(2)(a)(ii)(B) or 2709(b) of title 18; or
          (iii) a directive under section 1802(a)(4), 1805b(e), as added by section 2 of the Protect America Act of 2007 (Public Law 110–55), or 1881a(i) of this title.

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1885

          And…
          (f) “Electronic surveillance” means—
          (1) the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire or radio communication sent by or intended to be received by a particular, known United States person who is in the United States, if the contents are acquired by intentionally targeting that United States person, under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes;

          And…
          (i) “United States person” means a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in section 1101(a)(20) of title 8), an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power, as defined in subsection (a)(1), (2), or (3).
          (j) “United States”, when used in a geographic sense, means all areas under the territorial sovereignty of the United States and the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
          (k) “Aggrieved person” means a person who is the target of an electronic surveillance or any other person whose communications or activities were subject to electronic surveillance.
          (l) “Wire communication” means any communication while it is being carried by a wire, cable, or other like connection furnished or operated by any person engaged as a common carrier in providing or operating such facilities for the transmission of interstate or foreign communications.
          (m) “Person” means any individual, including any officer or employee of the Federal Government, or any group, entity, association, corporation, or foreign power.
          (n) “Contents”, when used with respect to a communication, includes any information concerning the identity of the parties to such communication or the existence, substance, purport, or meaning of that communication.
          (o) “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any territory or possession of the United States.

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1801

          Funny, notice how much time can be saved if they just say all “50 states”
          Words of art my friends, words of art.

          So our sovereign states are now no longer sovereign?

          Constitution, the law of the land. Gotta love it!
          They don’t but I do.

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      • mark says:

        Yup…nothing needs to be fixed. All that is needed is prosecution of the law breakers who deliberately abused FISA. The law is very clear. This is just fat a** Barr giving the law breakers a pass. Its like calling the deliberate illegal acts committed mistakes or errors.

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    • No worries sir, inspector Cluseau Barr is working dilligently on the case, and plans to indict someone in the year 2087.

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    • ldcj says:

      Of course no arrests. Barr is a card carrying member of the Deep State.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      I did listen but didn’t hear anything about Barr or the Republicans obstructing change. If I’m correct, then this type of interview comes off as purely political and fundamentally unserious.

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    • OhNoYouDont says:

      @ 0:39 – Collins “But what they (Democrats) don’t want to deal with is the actual FISA process and FISA court itself, which because, they don’t want to acknowledge the Horowitz Report …”

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      • Deplorable Incisor says:

        I will preface my rant with the fact that I like Doug Collins and do believe he is MAGA.

        What Collins fails to mention in his little rant is that IT WASN”T JUST DEMOCRATS.
        There is absolutely no way that this could have happened unless Republicans were involved too. 100% zero chance. This pisses me off more than anything the Democrats do because I vote for Republicans. Everyone involved needs to be investigated and if indicted, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If found guilty they should be waterboarded for any and all relevant information and then hung by the neck until DEAD. America would be all the better for it and a very clear message would be sent. The American people ultimately decide our own fate. These people not only betrayed their country, they broke faith with the people they are elected and appointed to serve.

        We should DEMAND exemplary behavior from our elected and appointed officials because they have a duty to know the rules and obey them. They are trusted by the people to do so and violating that trust should be grounds for maximum sentencing. This is TREASON and a betrayal of their oaths of office. None of them should get a pass on this issue.

        I would go back to the day Donald Trump took the escalator down and declared that he was running for POTUS. Anyone that has said anything remotely critical should be put under a microscope for long enough to determine their motives. Let them feel the heat for once and maybe they will think twice before ever doing something like this again.

        I’m sorry if I offend some of the more sensible people here but this is not a game. My anger (which everyone keeps telling me is cold) IS NOT!! I”M FRACKIN’ PISSED and I want some heads on a pike. Sick and tired of seeing known traitors walk when, if it was one of us, we would be serving hard time and not living the high life on the backs of the US Taxpayer.

        FISA should never have been allowed in the first place. It was passed on emotion after 9/11 for spurious reasons that didn’t make sense even then, and surely do not now after all of the abuses we have witnessed. You know what really pisses me off? What really pisses me off is that we will never know the full extent of this. It’s been 19 years and I’ll bet any money this has been the game from the start. It is very likely that this is how Obama won in 2008 by opposition research conducted by these same people using the FISA system.

        Think about why McCain and Romney folded like cheap suits. I have always believe that it was because they were just too weak…but what if they were just compromised instead?
        Let that sink in.

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        • trumpetter says:

          Richard Burr, John McCain; names that come to mind.

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        • Jan says:

          In general, we knew DC was corrupt. We knew Democrats were corrupt. We knew Republicans were corrupt. Both Nunes and Pres. Trump have said in the past weeks that even they didn’t know how corrupt government is.

          Today and tonight I listened to Democrat presidential candidates & Pelosi/Schumer lecturing on how Pres. Trump’s performance on the corona virus was subpar. On Feb. 5, Schumer tweeted that the President’s travel ban of foreign nationals coming from China on 1/31/2020 was more “war on immigrants.” He has since deleted that tweet.

          I’m fed up with all the lying and misconstruing the facts from the media, Dimms & RINOs.

          We clearly need revisions to FISA or we need it to expire. We already know what a Democrat President did with FISA and unmaskings. Imagine what a totalitarian president like ANY of the Dimm candidates for President will do to conservatives if elected, using FISA.

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          • Deplorable Incisor says:

            Let it expire and never let anything like it pass again.
            You made my precise point, except that it isn’t about what may happen as much as what has happened. We know about some abuse, but I would bet that we only know about that tip of the iceberg we see sticking above the surface. What all did they “actually get away with” and how has that affected Americans? That’s the $100B question that we will probably never know the answer too.

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  2. gildie says:

    I say let FISA expire. End it. It’s time has passed. Al-Qaeda isn’t much of a threat these days, either is ISIS. If it’s crucial to our national security, than show us 3 examples where it was VITAL in stopping a terrorist attack.
    It sure didn’t stop the Boston bombing, the San Bernardino shooting or the Pulse Club massacre.
    But it sure came in handy spying on political opponents or digging up dirt on trouble making outsiders.
    And while we’re at it, let’s dump the Five Eyes Program. That’s just a CIA work around for spying on Americans.

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  3. theoldgoat says:

    Well, to the point of making something MORE illegal, it means those guilty of abusing it get away with more, so there is that.

    Liked by 4 people

  4. sundance says:

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    • DeWalt says:

      Absolutely, The program will go dark anyway, may as well get something out of it.

      Liked by 1 person

    • islandpalmtrees says:

      I disagree, it is time to release the documents.

      When you stand next to a large bonfire on a cold night. You will notice people who stood close to the fire moving back as the flames grow, while others use their clothing to protect/guard them from the flames for a little longer.

      The coup members have hid behind National Security to protect themselves from the flames. The documents will remove the guard.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Add me as a “Yes”. (I don’t have a twitter acct)

      Liked by 1 person

    • Pale rider says:

      How about looking at it this way. Would the democrats? Would they give one inch towards fixing this?
      Rand should start with term limits and shove that down their throats. Senators, house members, all of them. Then line item veto, audit the fed, Lobby reform, balanced budget. Just keep items in the process that cause democrats to give up precious ground on each individual bill. They may not pass but in this climate, threats are almost as good as deeds. And I’m sure there are plenty sitting in boxes all over the place that never made it to a vote.
      And seriously why don’t they all do that if they are serious about reform? It’s in our faces, they don’t want reform. Same reason no prosecutions. Democrats are throwing everything against the wall.
      There is no upside to Not prosecuting now or quickly except, they are running out the clock.

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    • Jan says:

      Sundance’s poll came out slightly in favor of a one-yr. extension & getting Ratcliffe confirmed. Pres. Trump came out with the nomination AFTER a meeting with McConnell. Is McConnell throwing the Intel Committee or Burr/ Warner under the bus???

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  5. StanH says:

    The Patriot Act with FISA = Totalitarian. Like other alphabet agencies in the swamp they become play toys of the swamp denizens to keep people in line.

    “USA PATRIOT Act, also called PATRIOT Act, in full Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001, U.S. legislation, passed by Congress in response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and signed into law by Pres. George W. Bush in October 2001, that significantly expanded the search and surveillance powers of federal law-enforcement and intelligence agencies. The USA PATRIOT Act, as amended and reauthorized from 2003, made numerous changes to existing statutes relating to the privacy of telephone and electronic communications, the operation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, money laundering, immigration, and other areas. It also defined a host of new crimes and increased penalties for existing ones. ”

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/USA-PATRIOT-Act

    The reason I post this is to remember why we have this trampling of our Constitutional rights. We had just been viciously attacked by a known enemy, Islamo/Fascist Terrorist. And instead of focusing on our enemy Radical Islamist, we started the War on Terror. As opposed to identifying our enemy we declared war on a tactic. Here we are 20 years later and Islamo-Goons are still Islamo-Goons and we are stuck with the Patriot Act.

    10-4 Sundance. FISA needs to go and if I had my druthers so would the Patriot Act.

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    • frankmystery says:

      The Patriot act was already written prior to any attack. They planned the response before the act had occurred. Everything is as intended by our corrupt government.

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  6. Doug Amos says:

    FISA was abused right in front of McConnell; Paul is a loose horse and the American people have not proven that they deserve to be spied upon by politicians with an agenda. Common sense says garbage please with the door open to increased surveillance in a publicly recorded account of activity.

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  7. MaineCoon says:

    Barr is just another cookie-cutter suit, but that’s all Mitch will confirm. I have no resolutionto this insanity.

    Liked by 3 people

    • An American says:

      MaineCoon, didn’t President Kennedy place his brother Robert as A.G.. President Trump should place either Don Jr. or Eric in as A. G.. What a b.. buster that would be. Even if it was on just a temporary basis as McTurtle would never approve it, just think of the swamp draining that could be accomplished. That would also be a good leadin for 2024! MGA and then KAG! 😎

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    • billybob says:

      We are over 60 years on from Senator Jenner , a prophet or a realist ? , both I would argue

      “Today the path to total dictatorship in the U.S. can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system … a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state…. The important point to remember about this group is not its ideology but its organization… It operates secretly, silently, continuously to transform our Government…. This group … is answerable neither to the President, the Congress, nor the courts. It is practically irremovable.”— Senator William Jenner, 1954 speech

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    • trump20162024 says:

      McTurtle needs to put the senate into recess. The Trumpster could then appoint Joe diGenova as AG.

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  8. cboldt says:

    Law or not, the snooping is not going to stop. Get rid of the expensive “for show” bureaucracy.
    Legislators live in a bubble where government conduct is actually regulatated or cabined by law, at the same time the law provides no remedy for violating the law. It’s a stupid show for gullible people.

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  9. MVW says:

    The DOJ & FBI under Trump are corrupt and have proven themselves completely untrustworthy. Further, the FISA court even under the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court won;t take commensurate action when the system is egregiously, criminally abused. So what good is it to change it to include safeguards that could be disregarded by all elements of the surveillance?

    Veto any renewal.

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  10. bulwarker says:

    Now we know the President knows, so there is no excuse for him to sign any legislation containing a clean FISA renewal. None. I suggest he get out ahead of this, use the bully-pulpit and tweets, and directly attack the efforts of Congress to pass a “dirty” cornovirus funding bill. He needs to speak out, not wait until it’s on his desk, and he’s being pressured to sign. Make people aware. Ending this abuse is as bi-partisan as it gets.

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  11. TwoLaine says:

    It would not surprise me one bit if there were other secretive poison pills within the new bloated PORK BARREL Emergency Coronavirus Bill.

    Has Mike Lee slipped in more H1B immigration?

    When will it be made public so we can tell our CongressCritters whether or not we are interested? Or is that secret too?

    Here is the Contact form if you would like to write your President:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

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  12. Tom Hansen says:

    It should be remembered that McConnell is part of the Gang of Eight, so he had access to all the intelligence review since he became minority leader of the Senate when Reid was majority leader.

    So McConnell knew full well, as Paul Ryan at the time the intelligence briefings indicating Trump was possibly colluding with Russia back before, during the transition, and after he became President.

    I hope POTUS stands his ground and vetoes any legislation for a clean FISA renewal, corona virus money or not. Barr is showing his hand that he may very well be like Rosenstein and Wray, and that is to protect their institutions and their people, and allow treasonous behavior of their predecessors got scott free.

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  13. 335blues says:

    The dirty FISA process was the brainchild of marxist Ted Kennedy.
    Remember him? And one of he worst Presidents in our history,
    Jimma Carter, signed it into law.
    Imagine that, they passed a law giving the federal government
    the right to ignore our Constitution.
    It takes a Constitutional amendment to change the Constitutional.
    Thus, the FISA law is unconstitutional.
    Now Barr, McConnell and Graham want President Trump to renew the very
    unconstitutional law that was illegally used against him.
    Hubris? Arrogance? Stupidity?
    Lots of adjectives apply here.
    HELL NO is what Trump should say.
    The worthless Supreme Court should have struck it down
    as unconstitutional.
    But Roberts has also shown himself to be a closet globalist/marxist
    with his crazy Obamacare decision.

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  14. Harlan says:

    “AG Bill Barr is requesting a clean FISA renewal with no reforms or revisions.”

    That is beyond bull-hockey. That one position alone is enough to make me finally lose all hope in Bill Barr.

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  15. Johnny Dollar says:

    Sometimes I find myself getting impatient and angry with Bill Barr.

    Then I read things like this and realize the man is solid.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/26/ag_bill_barr_progressives_want_to_convert_us_into_25-year-olds_living_in_the_governments_basement.html

    Solid Christian, anyway. And that restores some of my hope in him.

    But Christians can easily be bullied into silence when confronted with their own beliefs. Such beliefs as: “Do unto others…” and “love thy neighbor…”

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  16. Doppler says:

    Well said, Sundance. Is PDJT setting this up to be a news-grabbing conflict between Executive Branch vs the Deep State in the Legislature and Bureaucracy? I hope so, since there’s been almost no publicity about any of it in the MSM (or BLM for Big Lie Media I like to call them).

    Rather than uphold and defend our Constitution, the Deep State, the Dems and RINOs, and BLM are actively engaged in destroying our first, second, fourth and parts of the fifth amendment. A bunch of Social Progressives on the way to Marxism in the US.

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  17. Don Cru says:

    I don’t twitter…but I’ll play along and vote NO to extend anything Patriot Act related. It shouldn’t had been approved the last time! And, I vote YES to bust the gang of 8, and insert Ratcliffe as DNI…WE know the background, enough is enough, right?…I want ARRESTS! Right?

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    • As a Man Thinkth says:

      I don’t Twitter…no do not extend Patriot Act
      YES, disband Gang of
      YES, Ratcliffe DNI or AG or FBI or CJ Supreme Court, take your pick

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  18. Ivehadit says:

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! NO MORE ABUSE!

    WE STAND WITH YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP! ALL THE WAY!
    xxxooo

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  19. Bob Parker says:

    I have a “daily double” idea: Let’s ditch both FISA & AG Bill (Fu)BAR(R).

    Out with the trash, gang, all of it!!

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  20. DeWalt says:

    Good picture of Barr and his boss.

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  21. Parrot says:

    Right…..so in the USA the Senate can in theory attach to a Bill to fund medicare another item to nationalise the banks?
    And of course the Senate will never vote to lose that power to corrupt Bills with unrelated matters.
    It’s Alice in Wonderland.

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  22. Bogeyfree says:

    Lindsey and Mitch are an obstacle to MAGA and need to go. The right thing to do as tough as it may seem is to vote them out of office come Nov.

    It would only take 100,000 MAGA supporters to just not cast a vote for these turds.

    Ideally it would be best to vote in their GOP primary opponent but that is not likely so IMO it is time to bite the bullet and just pass on these two faced MAGA frauds.

    I believe PT will pick up 5-8 new GOP Republican Senate seats in Nov election so NOW is the time otherwise PT and We the People are stuck with their manipulation games for another 6 years.

    Can you imagine 4 more years of Linsey’s false promises and Mitch unwillingness to allow PT ANY recess appointments.

    It is time to stand tall and end this cancer.

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  23. ezduzit63 says:

    Wm Binney had developed a Program for use called Thin Thread in which was designed to protect Privacy upon collection if I remember correctly….I believe it was buried by the same people who brought us Continuation Of Government and current Police State tactics…They would be wise to consult Wm Binney before leaping in to UN Constitutional practices again..

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  24. Les D says:

    I think this final extension of the expired but temp extended current FISA would be for another 5 years. Been searching but that’s the best I could find

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  25. You can be for the 4th amendment or you can be for the “Patriot” Act, you can’t be both.

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  26. sDee says:

    Vaccine already on the way. Trump can just veto McConnell’s dirty trick.

    “”Moderna’s vaccine against COVID-19 was developed in record time because it’s based on a relatively new genetic method that does not require growing huge amounts of virus.””

    https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19-vaccine/

    At least now there is no doubt about Barr.

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  27. littleanniefannie says:

    Hey Nancy, you publicly stated that “This is not a time for politics” when referring to COVID19 financing. Well, your buds in the Senate are doing just that! You need to publicly state that NOTHING Should be attached to coronavirus money. To try to “slide” FISA renewal in there is absolutely politicizing this situation. Time to put your money where your mouth is. You had no problem criticizing the Senate during the sham impeachment—THIS is serious and money or power really won’t help if you have Coronavirus, will it?????

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  28. WSB says:

    Gregg Jarrett on with Tom Fitton at Lou Dobbs right now! All over FISC!

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  29. DeWalt says:

    How do you post a jpeg file in your comments?

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  30. “NSA generated 434 million Call Detail Records from 14 FISA warrants”

    Report released Monday by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.

    Part of the Executive Branch of government.

    https://www.pclob.gov/

    Using 14 warrants, the NSA was able to generate 434 million Call Detail Reports (CDR).

    Page One of the report linked in the story.

    The population of the U.S. is 327 million.

    The law is up for renewal on March 15th.

    Called USA Freedom Act.

    The NSA reported a year ago that they stopped the program.

    Without a vote from Congress.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/nsa-collected-434-million-call-detail-records-from-14-fisa-warrants-19-million-phone-spying-american-citizens-usa-freedom-act-expires-veto-burr-graham-feinstein-dan-coates-dni-renews

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  31. it gets better.warren is going to introduce a bill to take the border wall funds for coronavirus relief.

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  32. Bogeyfree says:

    How about PT orders a full deep dive audit of all FISA requests since 2012 and then shares the results will all Americans before we just blindly renew it all.

    And then show all the information on those 47 Hammer hard drives which my guess would blow people’s mind what info they captured from Americans.

    That alone would end ALL surveillance programs IMO.

    Why hasn’t Barr ever commented or been asked about those Hammer Hard Drives that have been sitting with the FIB since 2015?

    I wish Rand Paul read here as this is a question he should demand from Barr.

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  33. zekness says:

    Again, necessary to make the repeated larger big picture here:

    THE US IC DOES NOT REQUIRE FISA OR PATRIOT ACT LAWS to spy on foreign targets….The US IC can act without such laws as there are adequate provisions IN LAW that allows for it. Read: National security and counter-intelligence and cyber-com military intelligence provisions…all legal..all active….

    it’s important to understand this, because it exposes two things that many people fail to understand or have been duped by “officials”

    a. the FISA and Patriot ACT does not give the US IC any more power or legal standing to perform foreign target surveillance than existed prior to or even now. Those former provisions, legal provisions, have always been in force and FISA and Patriot Act do not enhance them whatsoever in terms of military intel operation, or anti-terrorism or counter-drug and interdiction missions.

    b. the FISA and Patriot stops right now, will have ZERO consequences to the ability of the US IC to continue to surveil foreign targets. No impact whatsoever. The legal authority, the personnel and the infrastructure to spy on foreign targets and the management and security of this classified material will not diminish with the elimination of these “extra” FISA and patriot act “powers”.

    summary: spying on foreign targets is a necessary method for national security. The laws that provide for it and the legal authority from congress already exist and do not depend in fisa or the patriot act whatsover.

    we LOSE NOTHING AND ONLY GAIN EVERYTHING BY REMOVING THE FISA AND PATRIOT ACT.

    eventually, this is the proper argument against the FISA AND PATRIOT ACT.

    “secret courts to spy on american citizens is a violation of the most basic protections made clear by the constitution”..

    foreign target spying MUST never be allowed to be conflated or confused with spying on american citizens.

    patriot act and fisa allow this conflation..thus the abuse we have documented.

    get rid of both and restore the constitution and protect the citizen against the corrupt behavior of the state.

    simple…(yeah, I know..not simple, but correct)

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    • amazed treetop downlooker says:

      OUTSTANDING, zekness…u just like the old E.F. Hutton ads…

      “When zekness speaks, Treepers listen !”

      Many Thanks, Patriot 👍🇺🇸😎

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  34. KaweahKid says:

    B@st@rds using COVID-19 to sneak FISC reauthorization under the radar…

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  35. noswamp says:

    I trust Durham more than Barr.

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  36. Brittney says:

    Let this explode.

    Indictments/Prosecutions “All” involved in the Coup by March 10.

    Then we will talk about Fisa.

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  37. DeWalt says:

    Me and the internet.

    Liked by 1 person

  38. Kevin says:

    Call your Senators and Representatives.

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  39. 335blues says:

    All Americans deserve to be free from the dirty FISA process.

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  40. Bob, Esq. says:

    A few must read articles

    How Private Contractors Have Created a Shadow NSA A new cybersecurity elite moves between government and private practice, taking state secrets with them.
    By Tim Shorrock

    U.S. Intelligence Crisis Poses a Threat to the World (3 Part series)
    February 11, 2018
    Privatized and politicized intelligence is undermining the mission of providing unbiased information to both high-level decision makers and the American public, explains George Eliason in this first of a three-part series. (Part two of this series is available here. Part three is here.)

    By George Eliason

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/11/u-s-intelligence-crisis-poses-a-threat-to-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR3DCKUZZFn5z-7-IZ7JAal5J8CFzpiTVCun7kKYgsxJu9vQCrro-_mO0-c

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  41. Bob, Esq. says:

    Forgot the link
    How Private Contractors Have Created a Shadow NSA A new cybersecurity elite moves between government and private practice, taking state secrets with them.
    By Tim Shorrock
    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/how-private-contractors-have-created-shadow-nsa/

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  42. Texian says:

    Congress abusing their constituents.. taking advantage of peoples’ fear.. ginned up by their Fake News partners in crime.. in what could potentially become a serious situation..

    You would think Congress would use it as a Statesman opportunity to calm and assist a concerned electorate..

    Instead they just see another opportunity to rape, pillage and further abuse the Natural Rights of the American citizen..

    They are a master who continues to repeatedly rape the servant..

    How long will this abuse continue to be ignored..

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  43. republicanvet91 says:

    BARR. Being Another Rod Rosenstein.

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  44. islandpalmtrees says:

    The only question that remains is who is more corrupt?

    Sundance writes:
    “AG Bill Barr is requesting a clean FISA renewal with no reforms or revisions. Senate Leader Mitch McConnell and Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham support the AG request. The American people want it scrapped, or, at a minimum strongly revised. Congress is trying to hide the FISA renewal within the Coronavirus appropriations bill.”

    Say hello to Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, a coup members in good-standing
    At Secretive Meeting, Tech CEOs And Top Republicans Commiserate, Plot To Stop Trump
    Karl Rove shared focus group findings that give hope to the GOP establishment.
    By Ryan Grim, Nick Baumann, and Matt Fuller
    http://www.huffpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_n_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d

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  45. Cocoon says:

    It’s now been almost 4 years.
    We still do not know:
    How FBI schemed to FISA American citizen effecting thousands of YS citizens?
    Who the 4 FBI contractors were who unmasked US citizens illegally?
    How a UNAmbassador unmasked hundreds in one year?
    We need this info prior to any reauthorization and those effected need to be notified their privacy rights were violated.

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  46. VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

    I’m posting again because the constitution prevails always.
    Use the laws that congress has enacted, that’s how you fight a proper battle.

    (a) Information acquired under section 1881a
    (1) In general
    Information acquired from an acquisition conducted under section 1881a of this title shall be deemed to be information acquired from an electronic surveillance pursuant to subchapter I for purposes of section 1806 of this title, except for the purposes of subsection (j) of such section.

    (2) United States persons
    (A) In generalAny information concerning a United States person acquired under section 1881a of this title shall not be used in evidence against that United States person pursuant to paragraph (1) in any criminal proceeding unless—
    (i) the Federal Bureau of Investigation obtained an order of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to access such information pursuant to section 1881a(f)(2) of this title; or
    (ii) the Attorney General determines that—
    (I) the criminal proceeding affects, involves, or is related to the national security of the United States; or
    (II) the criminal proceeding involves—
    (aa) death;
    (bb) kidnapping;
    (cc) serious bodily injury, as defined in section 1365 of title 18;
    (dd) conduct that constitutes a criminal offense that is a specified offense against a minor, as defined in section 20911 of title 34;
    (ee) incapacitation or destruction of critical infrastructure, as defined in section 5195c(e) of title 42;
    (ff) cybersecurity, including conduct described in section 5195c(e) of title 42 or section 1029, 1030, or 2511 of title 18;
    (gg) transnational crime, including transnational narcotics trafficking and transnational organized crime; or
    (hh) human trafficking.
    (B) No judicial review
    A determination by the Attorney General under subparagraph (A)(ii) is not subject to judicial review.

    (b) Information acquired under section 1881b
    Information acquired from an acquisition conducted under section 1881b of this title shall be deemed to be information acquired from an electronic surveillance pursuant to subchapter I for purposes of section 1806 of this title.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1881e

    And…
    (c) Notification by United States
    Whenever the Government intends to enter into evidence or otherwise use or disclose in any trial, hearing, or other proceeding in or before any court, department, officer, agency, regulatory body, or other authority of the United States, against an aggrieved person, any information obtained or derived from an electronic surveillance of that aggrieved person pursuant to the authority of this subchapter, the Government shall, prior to the trial, hearing, or other proceeding or at a reasonable time prior to an effort to so disclose or so use that information or submit it in evidence, notify the aggrieved person and the court or other authority in which the information is to be disclosed or used that the Government intends to so disclose or so use such information.

    (d) Notification by States or political subdivisions
    Whenever any State or political subdivision thereof intends to enter into evidence or otherwise use or disclose in any trial, hearing, or other proceeding in or before any court, department, officer, agency, regulatory body, or other authority of a State or a political subdivision thereof, against an aggrieved person any information obtained or derived from an electronic surveillance of that aggrieved person pursuant to the authority of this subchapter, the State or political subdivision thereof shall notify the aggrieved person, the court or other authority in which the information is to be disclosed or used, and the Attorney General that the State or political subdivision thereof intends to so disclose or so use such information.

    (e) Motion to suppressAny person against whom evidence obtained or derived from an electronic surveillance to which he is an aggrieved person is to be, or has been, introduced or otherwise used or disclosed in any trial, hearing, or other proceeding in or before any court, department, officer, agency, regulatory body, or other authority of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, may move to suppress the evidence obtained or derived from such electronic surveillance on the grounds that—
    (1) the information was unlawfully acquired; or
    (2) the surveillance was not made in conformity with an order of authorization or approval.
    Such a motion shall be made before the trial, hearing, or other proceeding unless there was no opportunity to make such a motion or the person was not aware of the grounds of the motion.

    (g) Suppression of evidence; denial of motion
    If the United States district court pursuant to subsection (f) determines that the surveillance was not lawfully authorized or conducted, it shall, in accordance with the requirements of law, suppress the evidence which was unlawfully obtained or derived from electronic surveillance of the aggrieved person or otherwise grant the motion of the aggrieved person. If the court determines that the surveillance was lawfully authorized and conducted, it shall deny the motion of the aggrieved person except to the extent that due process requires discovery or disclosure.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1806

    And…
    (f) “Electronic surveillance” means—
    (1) the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire or radio communication sent by or intended to be received by a particular, known United States person who is in the United States, if the contents are acquired by intentionally targeting that United States person, under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes;

    (i) “United States person” means a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in section 1101(a)(20) of title 8), an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power, as defined in subsection (a)(1), (2), or (3).
    (j) “United States”, when used in a geographic sense, means all areas under the territorial sovereignty of the United States and the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
    (k) “Aggrieved person” means a person who is the target of an electronic surveillance or any other person whose communications or activities were subject to electronic surveillance.
    (l) “Wire communication” means any communication while it is being carried by a wire, cable, or other like connection furnished or operated by any person engaged as a common carrier in providing or operating such facilities for the transmission of interstate or foreign communications.
    (m) “Person” means any individual, including any officer or employee of the Federal Government, or any group, entity, association, corporation, or foreign power.
    (n) “Contents”, when used with respect to a communication, includes any information concerning the identity of the parties to such communication or the existence, substance, purport, or meaning of that communication.
    (o) “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any territory or possession of the United States.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1801

    And…
    (a) In general
    In this subchapter, the terms “agent of a foreign power”, “Attorney General”, “contents”, “electronic surveillance”, “foreign intelligence information”, “foreign power”, “person”, “United States”, and “United States person” have the meanings given such terms in section 1801 of this title, except as specifically provided in this subchapter.

    (b) Additional definitionsIn this subchapter:
    (1) Congressional intelligence committeesThe term “congressional intelligence committees” means—
    (A) the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate; and
    (B) the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives.
    (2) Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court; Court
    The terms “Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court” and “Court” mean the court established under section 1803(a) of this title.

    (3) Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review; Court of Review
    The terms “Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review” and “Court of Review” mean the court established under section 1803(b) of this title.

    (4) Electronic communication service providerThe term “electronic communication service provider” means—
    (A) a telecommunications carrier, as that term is defined in section 153 of title 47;
    (B) a provider of electronic communication service, as that term is defined in section 2510 of title 18;
    (C) a provider of a remote computing service, as that term is defined in section 2711 of title 18;
    (D) any other communication service provider who has access to wire or electronic communications either as such communications are transmitted or as such communications are stored; or
    (E) an officer, employee, or agent of an entity described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), or (D).
    (5) Intelligence community
    The term “intelligence community” has the meaning given the term in section 3003(4) of this title.

    It’s all right here folks, https://www.law.cornell.edu/topn/foreign_intelligence_surveillance_act_of_1978

    The law is on our Constitutional side. Just don’t invade other people’s Constitutional rights (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness) and use the legal definitions of the statutes that congress has enacted into law. Don’t fall for “words of art” or get trapped under “color of law” BS.
    Common words are used throughout all US codes and used on purpose. To confuse the unwary. That’s why knowing and understanding the “legal definitions” are so very important.

    Of the 53 titles in the U. S. Code, less than half are “Positive Law” the rest… “Prima Facie” evidence.
    Any lawyers care to argue?

    There’s nothing wrong with the FISA Courts, only those who abuse it and yes it needs to stop!

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    • David A says:

      Voteall… For the sake of discussion I will give you that. Now we hear Barr wants a clean renewal. Ok, easy, first you prosecute to the full extent of the law all the illegal actions that colluded to abuse this process for purely partisan political purposes, and attempts to overthrow a sitting President.

      Then you get your renewal, with a caveat, that severe punishments are placed on not following the procedures you shared that are part of the FISA law, even if the not following procedure is purely an accident.
      ( I noticed little to nothing about consequences to those who failed to follow the FISA procedures you outlined.)

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  47. PMadison says:

    Looks like it’s time for a Trump rally in KY.

    Get Mr. McConnell and Mr. Paul up on stage and let’s air this thing out with Mitch right there in front of the people whose votes he needs in Nov.

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  48. Don L says:

    Fire Barr–act three of “Who is the real AG” should begin immediately.

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  49. I think that the 1970’s-era concept behind FISA has turned out to be fatally flawed. Congress at the time did not like what President Nixon had been doing. But they wound up passing a law that allowed far, far worse things to happen … and for the President to escape personal accountability for it. It’s really quite impossible for “judges” of a secret “court” to actually know the truth or the falsehood of what is being presented to them (only …) by the Government. And, unlike the President, they neither have the authority to probe nor will become personally accountable for their decision. We need to repeal FISA as a bad idea that maybe sounded good at the time.

    Likewise, PATRIOT. I really don’t know how this document magically appeared in its 900-page glory immediately after 9/11 … nobody can write that fast … but it has created a form of vulnerability for the entire nation that never existed before. It, too, should be repealed and replaced.

    Sometimes, laws turn out to be good. Sometimes, they don’t.

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